The Charlie Kirk Show - June 03, 2023


The Five False Faiths of 2023 America: Live at Awaken Church


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00:01:11.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:01:21.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:22.000 He's an incredible guy.
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00:01:52.000 Thank you, everybody.
00:01:53.000 Thank you.
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00:01:54.000 Oh, man.
00:01:56.000 Charlie, thank you for coming to Utah.
00:01:58.000 Thank you.
00:01:59.000 I love Utah.
00:02:00.000 I see a lot of patriots here, and we're going to have some fun.
00:02:03.000 God bless you all.
00:02:04.000 Thank you.
00:02:05.000 Team, when you took the pulpit, I think my phone was on it, and my questions are on that.
00:02:09.000 So if I could.
00:02:10.000 Thank you very much.
00:02:13.000 Come on.
00:02:14.000 Only technical difficulty today.
00:02:16.000 So, Charlie, I think we should just jump into it because I want to give people as much time with you as possible, but do just want to say thank you.
00:02:24.000 We know that you being here has a cost to it.
00:02:27.000 You have a beautiful wife, a child.
00:02:30.000 And so we're just so thankful that you would give this time to us.
00:02:33.000 And we want to get everything we can from you.
00:02:37.000 And thank you for what you're doing as a father.
00:02:40.000 Thank you for what you guys are doing in schools and colleges all across this nation.
00:02:44.000 Thank you sincerely.
00:02:46.000 All right.
00:02:47.000 I'm going to go right to it, Charlie.
00:02:49.000 So, first question, because I thought this was so good.
00:02:52.000 You shared recently on there's five religions in America.
00:02:56.000 And I would just love you to expand on that real quick because that is such a cool concept.
00:03:02.000 Sure.
00:03:02.000 So as Christianity is becoming less and less popular, there are five fake religions that are filling the void.
00:03:09.000 Sorry, I'm getting some feedback here, but can you guys hear me okay?
00:03:12.000 Okay.
00:03:13.000 Yeah, okay.
00:03:13.000 Great.
00:03:14.000 So those five fake religions need to be identified, and they're very similar to some of the fake ideologies and religions that existed when the Bible was actually written in river civilization pagan times.
00:03:26.000 And I gave a whole speech at Awaken San Marcos about this.
00:03:30.000 I also gave a speech at TCU about this, but I'll go through it really quick.
00:03:34.000 And the argument is that most people who say they're atheistic or who say they're secular, they're actually, they're living a religious life.
00:03:45.000 They're just living a fake religious life.
00:03:47.000 And so the five fake religions, as I identified them, and there could be six or seven, but the five major ones, earth worshipers, otherwise known as environmentalists, right?
00:03:57.000 Greta Thunberg types, John Kerry.
00:04:00.000 The religion of power, right?
00:04:02.000 Anthony Fauci, James Comey, people like that, right?
00:04:06.000 The religion of scientism, which also Anthony Fauci is also involved in.
00:04:10.000 The religion of tolerance, which we could talk about.
00:04:14.000 There's a difference between being tolerant and being compassionate.
00:04:18.000 We as Christians are not called to be tolerant of evil.
00:04:21.000 We should not be tolerant of evil ever.
00:04:23.000 That's very important.
00:04:25.000 Come on, Charlie.
00:04:26.000 And then finally, what I consider to be the most dangerous, the most immediately dangerous of all the fake religions is the religion of anti-racism and the religion, or the cult of diversity, if you will, right?
00:04:39.000 And that one is the biggest immediate threat to the American Republic.
00:04:44.000 Now, all five of them are spreading.
00:04:47.000 They're increasing in popularity.
00:04:49.000 They have been dominating the American zeitgeist and culture the last couple of years.
00:04:54.000 And the argument, and I believe Jesus Christ raised from the dead.
00:04:59.000 The resurrection is real.
00:05:00.000 I believe that he is part of the Godhead.
00:05:03.000 I believe the Bible is inerrant, and I am a proud Christian.
00:05:06.000 If you are not, though, you must be willing to accept the fact that as America becomes less Christian, something damaging will replace it.
00:05:16.000 And this is something that we do not talk enough about, which is the secularists and the atheists, or even the people that say, you know, I don't like Christianity because of the hypocritical pastors or because of the skinny genes or because of whatever, right?
00:05:29.000 You know, you pass the test, by the way, the skinny gene test.
00:05:32.000 Not everyone at Awaken passed skinny genes.
00:05:35.000 I know, I know.
00:05:37.000 I'm right in that line.
00:05:38.000 Yeah, anyway.
00:05:40.000 And I hear all the complaints.
00:05:43.000 Those are largely silly.
00:05:44.000 The question should be: societally, is America heading in the right direction as we become less Christian?
00:05:51.000 Wow.
00:05:52.000 And it is a fact that we are not.
00:05:54.000 We are more depressed, more suicidal, more alcohol-addicted, more drug-addicted as we become less Christian.
00:06:00.000 The Wall Street Journal has come out with a poll in the last couple of weeks that church involvement, local community involvement, having children, belief in God have collapsed by double digits in the last couple of decades.
00:06:12.000 And what is replacing it is these manufactured, synthetic worldviews that I believe some of them have satanic influences and demonic elements to them.
00:06:22.000 And it's creating moral and societal chaos.
00:06:26.000 And so even if you do not believe in Christianity, I encourage you to be honest enough to say that as America becomes less Christian, it will become less free.
00:06:37.000 Wow, come on.
00:06:38.000 How good is that?
00:06:43.000 This one actually, I've been waiting since you did the San Marcos.
00:06:48.000 By the way, if you want to catch another one of these, you can go and check out our last Wednesday we did this.
00:06:53.000 But why does it seem like the left is so passionate about transing or pushing that agenda to our kids?
00:07:02.000 So a couple things.
00:07:04.000 The first of which is they do not believe in the innocence of children.
00:07:08.000 This comes from, it's demonic, but there's a doctor that everyone should be familiar with, Dr. Kinsey.
00:07:15.000 And Dr. Kinsey did a series of experiments on children in the 1900s.
00:07:21.000 And he is well received in the academy.
00:07:23.000 He has an entire institute at Indiana University Bloomington.
00:07:26.000 They have the Kinsey Center.
00:07:28.000 And he wrote some unbelievably graphic books.
00:07:31.000 I'm not going to get into it because it will ruin your night, but I could just say one of the quotes from Dr. Kinsey is he said he had a view of child sexuality that is completely different than what all of us would believe.
00:07:42.000 He said, the only unnatural sex act for a child is that which the child cannot perform.
00:07:47.000 So he believed that children are sexual beings, that children should have sex with adults.
00:07:53.000 He did graphic sexual experiments with children as young as six months old.
00:07:57.000 He clinically observed them being raped multiple times.
00:08:00.000 Not an exaggeration, not a misrepresentation.
00:08:02.000 Dr. Kinsey, and he is considered to be a genius in the academic world.
00:08:06.000 So this idea of children not being innocent is nothing new.
00:08:11.000 In fact, it's been widespread.
00:08:12.000 It used to be a fringe idea, but now it's being really widely accepted.
00:08:17.000 They believe that they are liberating children from the Christian Western norms of saving yourself for adulthood for sexuality, that you liberate yourself to a higher consciousness if you engage in this behavior at a younger age.
00:08:32.000 These people are perverts.
00:08:33.000 These people are groomers.
00:08:34.000 These people are objectionable.
00:08:36.000 And if you're in the ministry, if you are a pastor and you don't talk about it, you should resign because you're a moral coward.
00:08:41.000 This is one of the great injustices happening in our time.
00:08:45.000 Oh!
00:08:46.000 And thank you.
00:08:48.000 I'm going to stand up here.
00:08:50.000 But there's another reason to the trans deal that's important, right?
00:08:54.000 So everybody here tonight, I would venture a guess, believes a couple fundamental things, that there is a God and we are not him.
00:09:01.000 The five fake religions, they do not acknowledge that.
00:09:04.000 And one of the reasons why the trans movement is being adopted by the abortionists is it's a fundamental belief that we are here to make nature in our image.
00:09:14.000 And they look at themselves in godlike terms.
00:09:17.000 So the abortionists, the fundamental philosophical agreement that the abortionists have is that we, human beings, should be able to determine life and death as we see fit because we want to be like gods, right?
00:09:30.000 It is a yearning to have the power that only God has, right?
00:09:34.000 We call that murder.
00:09:35.000 That is why murder is not only not allowed in the Bible, that if you murder, that your life should also be taken, right?
00:09:42.000 That you do not take an image bearer's life without a cost to your own life.
00:09:46.000 So it's very strictly prohibited in the Bible for a reason, okay?
00:09:50.000 We could talk about capital punishment if you want.
00:09:52.000 But the point is that the Bible is clear that murder is wrong, that you don't get to do that, okay?
00:09:58.000 Only God does.
00:09:59.000 It's prohibited.
00:10:01.000 The abortionists don't believe that, but they go a step further.
00:10:04.000 And this is really under the vertical of the religion of scientism, right?
00:10:07.000 So in the scientism religion, they have a completely different approach to science than what we as Christians have.
00:10:14.000 So modern science was largely founded by Sir Francis Bacon, and it was popularized by Sir Isaac Newton.
00:10:20.000 These people were largely Christian.
00:10:22.000 They believed that God made the world with a harmony and a rhythm, that there's a logos to the world, that we want to explore it with wonder and awe, but we did not create the world, and we're not here to try to change nature to our liking.
00:10:35.000 Something changed in the 1800s, largely by a group of Hegelians that believed, they were German historicists, that they said, wait a second, if we have this power to inquire into nature, why don't we change nature to our own liking?
00:10:48.000 Why don't we reconfigure nature?
00:10:51.000 Now, mind you, this satanic idea pathogen was nothing new, but 100 years later resulted in the Nazis trying to exterminate an entire people, okay?
00:11:01.000 The eugenicist movement is based on the will of the human being to exert control over nature because I want it that way.
00:11:09.000 Because they're not as efficient.
00:11:10.000 They're not as, you know, that we don't like the way they look.
00:11:14.000 We believe all these lies about them.
00:11:16.000 The trans movement is that same philosophical idea pathogen that I am going to change the chromosomal makeup of a being because I want it that way.
00:11:16.000 Okay.
00:11:28.000 And by the way, all throughout the scriptures, the I will statement is usually used in reference when Satan is talking, okay?
00:11:38.000 I will, I will, I will.
00:11:40.000 No, no, no.
00:11:41.000 We as Christians believe God wills.
00:11:43.000 God wills.
00:11:44.000 Completely different.
00:11:46.000 And so I could talk about the trans thing at length.
00:11:51.000 And by the way, your governor is an absolute abject failure on this topic.
00:11:54.000 You guys have a disgrace as a governor.
00:11:56.000 Total disgrace.
00:12:03.000 And if I offended you, I'm sorry you're wrong.
00:12:06.000 So we talked about that.
00:12:08.000 But the trans thing is fundamental.
00:12:10.000 It is a war on biology.
00:12:11.000 It's a war on truth.
00:12:12.000 It's a war on language.
00:12:14.000 It's a war on natural design.
00:12:15.000 It's a war on child innocence.
00:12:17.000 It's a war on vocabulary.
00:12:19.000 It's a reconfiguration of our norms, our practices for a mentally delusional minority.
00:12:25.000 And that somehow we have to reconfigure all of our society for people that are obviously tormented by something.
00:12:31.000 And instead of giving them compassionate care, we have to change our language and we have to change our bathrooms and we have to change our sports.
00:12:38.000 No, no, no.
00:12:40.000 That is not just wrong.
00:12:42.000 It is evil to do this.
00:12:43.000 Okay?
00:12:44.000 It is evil.
00:12:46.000 But why the trans thing?
00:12:47.000 They want to introduce a pattern of thinking that your nature, if you do not like it, you can go through a series of choices to wage war on creation itself.
00:13:00.000 Wow.
00:13:01.000 And first of all, not only is that dangerous, it's also not true.
00:13:07.000 And this is what is so, this is what's so deceiving about the trans movement: despite all of the surgeries, despite the hysterectomies and the breast removals and all of the quote-unquote gender-affirming care, it does not change that you are still a woman or you are still a man.
00:13:24.000 They are only putting camouflage on.
00:13:28.000 It's a costume.
00:13:29.000 It does not change the being that you are.
00:13:33.000 So this is only a gateway to lots of different things.
00:13:37.000 I could go on at length about it.
00:13:38.000 I'll say one final thing.
00:13:39.000 The media mercilessly attacks me with this, but it's trying to create the beginning stages of man merging with machine.
00:13:48.000 It's trying to create you to be open-minded to transhumanism, which is right around the corner.
00:13:55.000 That if your child is less than five years old, they will be a generation where they're going to try to convince you that if you can be transgender and you can change your gender, you can change your species and you can hook up to a machine and be like God.
00:14:09.000 Wow.
00:14:10.000 Come on.
00:14:10.000 Thank you, Troy.
00:14:11.000 That was a powerful.
00:14:16.000 This question kind of dovetails off it a little bit.
00:14:20.000 People are afraid of not being kind by speaking up in the culture war.
00:14:26.000 What would you say to this?
00:14:29.000 Yeah, that's interesting.
00:14:31.000 So I'm more interested in: are you telling the truth?
00:14:35.000 Wow.
00:14:36.000 And that's Christ.
00:14:38.000 I mean, if you read the Gospels, Jesus was loving, compassionate, but he was not kind to people that use their power and abuse their power.
00:14:48.000 Wow.
00:14:48.000 He was not kind to people who told lies.
00:14:51.000 Wow.
00:14:51.000 In fact, he was rather harsh.
00:14:54.000 And so to be kind, it's interesting.
00:14:57.000 That's kind of a new English phenomenon.
00:15:00.000 It's like a kind of a 20th century New Age phenomenon.
00:15:03.000 I think we should be loving.
00:15:04.000 The most loving thing you could do is to tell the truth.
00:15:06.000 Come on.
00:15:07.000 And of course, you should not be cruel ever.
00:15:09.000 You should be compassionate, but I'll give you a great example.
00:15:12.000 So you take a trans person.
00:15:13.000 Okay, let's just pretend someone who's trans you're not or whatever.
00:15:16.000 So you have a couple choices.
00:15:18.000 The world would say, well, you got to be kind.
00:15:21.000 So affirm their lie.
00:15:23.000 I would say that's actually being unkind to them.
00:15:27.000 That is being unloving to them.
00:15:29.000 They're made in the image of God and they're believing a lie.
00:15:32.000 They're under a mental delusion that is a complete war on their biology.
00:15:36.000 And I will prove it to you.
00:15:38.000 Do you give liposuction to someone who has anorexia?
00:15:44.000 Someone who has a mental delusion that believes they are overweight and they say, Doctor, I need liposuction because I want to lose weight.
00:15:52.000 The doctor would lose their license if they played into their mental delusion.
00:15:57.000 Wow.
00:15:59.000 If you want to be, if you love somebody, you love them enough to tell them the truth that will bring them to a place where they could flourish.
00:16:08.000 Instead, you know, this idea of being, I don't even, it has to be said in context, but I'll use a different one, right?
00:16:15.000 Where they say, well, you have to be nice, okay?
00:16:18.000 Psalm 97:10.
00:16:20.000 If you love God, you must hate evil.
00:16:24.000 God does not command you to be kind or nice to people who are evil.
00:16:31.000 Yes.
00:16:31.000 If you love God, you must hate the acts they are committing.
00:16:35.000 And I will tell you that as an act of worship, I hate the people that are doing hysterectomies to teenagers across the country.
00:16:42.000 I hate what they're doing.
00:16:44.000 I hate their motives.
00:16:45.000 I hate that they're profiting on it.
00:16:47.000 And I refuse to be kind to them.
00:16:49.000 In fact, I think that they need to be cross-examined with truth.
00:16:53.000 That's amazing.
00:16:54.000 Come on.
00:16:55.000 Come on.
00:16:58.000 It's crazy.
00:16:59.000 It's like Jesus said, speak the truth in love.
00:17:02.000 Crazy.
00:17:03.000 All right.
00:17:04.000 Another one here.
00:17:06.000 So I'll use this generic term.
00:17:08.000 A lot of church people, that we have some here in Utah, believe there are, that we're in the end times.
00:17:15.000 So they don't engage in the culture war because they see it as point as a pointless fight.
00:17:19.000 What would you say to this?
00:17:20.000 Yeah, I get this a lot.
00:17:22.000 And, you know, I speak at a lot of Calvary churches, Calvary Chapel, founded by Chuck Smith, and they're very focused on eschatology.
00:17:28.000 In fact, one of my closest friends and mentors, Jack Hibbs, is probably one of the most, I think, amazingly, amazing theologians on the end times.
00:17:36.000 And so I don't know if we're in the end times.
00:17:37.000 We might be, we might not be.
00:17:39.000 I actually think it's completely irrelevant as to what you are going to do.
00:17:43.000 Come on.
00:17:44.000 And I'm not saying that it's irrelevant to look for the signs.
00:17:48.000 I think it's irrelevant to your action.
00:17:50.000 Let me be very clear.
00:17:51.000 Now, I hear it all the time, Charlie, Jesus is coming next Thursday.
00:17:54.000 I don't need to do any of this stuff, right?
00:17:56.000 We're all going to be zapped up in the rapture.
00:17:58.000 None of this matters.
00:18:00.000 Now, Jesus told you to occupy till I come.
00:18:02.000 He also said the day and the hour is unknown.
00:18:05.000 And I asked the question: what do you want to be caught doing if Jesus returns?
00:18:10.000 Do you want to be caught being a coward and running to the hills and disengaging from culture?
00:18:14.000 Or do you want to be salt and light?
00:18:16.000 Did Jesus tell you to stop being salt and light if things got hard?
00:18:19.000 If you actually believed the end times were coming, if you really did and you were not a theological coward, then you would actually want to lean in.
00:18:26.000 But you actually don't believe it.
00:18:28.000 People that tell me that, I challenge, you actually don't believe it if you don't engage.
00:18:31.000 No, you're using that as an excuse to run to the hills because you think God is going to bail you out because you have no courage.
00:18:43.000 Oh my goodness.
00:18:45.000 Hey, we never promised it would be easy, but that's truth and love.
00:18:49.000 That's truth and love right there.
00:18:51.000 So the Gallup poll that came out for 2023 puts Utah as the 10th most conservative state.
00:18:58.000 You mentioned our governor, but however, we see a lot of non-conservative policies coming out of Salt Lake City, the city proper.
00:19:08.000 Do you think conservatism is safe here in Utah?
00:19:11.000 And what would you say to Utah?
00:19:13.000 No, it's not.
00:19:13.000 I mean, this state is, they're trying to turn this into another Colorado.
00:19:17.000 And look, the idea pathogens are spreading.
00:19:21.000 Salt Lake City is unrecognizable.
00:19:23.000 They're going to try to bring all these same ballot referendums and ideas and measures here.
00:19:28.000 So what do I have to say about this?
00:19:30.000 I mean, I work with a lot of LDS.
00:19:32.000 I'm obviously not LDS.
00:19:34.000 I'm a Christian, evangelical Christian.
00:19:37.000 I think the world of a lot of LDS people, we see the world differently theologically.
00:19:40.000 But boy, if there's any LDS in the audience here, you have got to fight this woke nonsense that has infiltrated the LDS.
00:19:48.000 You have to.
00:19:48.000 Yes, come on.
00:19:50.000 It is one of the most important things you have to do.
00:19:53.000 In fact, I have a heart for LDS waging that war within that community right now because I'm seeing just nonsense come out here and there, and it's really troubling to me.
00:20:04.000 And it's too bad because the LDS world used to be one of the most reliably conservative organizations and institutions and communities, and it's becoming less and less so.
00:20:15.000 And so you have to be vigilant here in Utah.
00:20:18.000 They are coming here.
00:20:19.000 I mean, you already have one Republican senator, and then you got something else.
00:20:23.000 I don't know what that is all about.
00:20:25.000 That's true.
00:20:27.000 And I'll just leave it at that.
00:20:29.000 I don't know what that's all about.
00:20:31.000 But Colorado used to be a free state.
00:20:35.000 Nevada used to be a free state.
00:20:37.000 They are coming here.
00:20:38.000 And these idea pathogens are attractive because the fastest growing religions, those five religions, are counterfeit substitutes for Christianity.
00:20:47.000 And so, no, you're not safe.
00:20:50.000 You're in great danger.
00:20:52.000 And they can flip a state very quickly.
00:20:54.000 If you stop being bold, and if you want to be kind to evildoers, then you're going to lose your state.
00:21:00.000 You're going to lose your home.
00:21:00.000 Wow.
00:21:02.000 Wow.
00:21:04.000 Wow.
00:21:07.000 So we were having an interesting conversation with your friend Pastor David from New York and in the green room.
00:21:13.000 And he was talking about his book on morality and a hierarchy of it.
00:21:17.000 And I would just love to hear your thoughts on that.
00:21:19.000 Give me an example here.
00:21:21.000 You know, when we vote, is sin a sin?
00:21:26.000 So is it the same you vote for somebody who's okay with abortion, who's killing a baby, but they're kind.
00:21:31.000 And are there, they're, you know, they have, seem to have self-control.
00:21:36.000 And so isn't that not having self-control sin?
00:21:38.000 So are they the same?
00:21:39.000 And does it really matter how we vote based off of morality?
00:21:43.000 Of course it matters how you vote.
00:21:44.000 Everything you do matters in the eyes of God.
00:21:46.000 All your actions do.
00:21:47.000 And yes, some sins matter more than others in the eyes of God.
00:21:50.000 Murder makes God way unhappier than jaywalking.
00:21:55.000 Anyone who says anything different is reading a different Bible than I am.
00:22:00.000 I just, it's not even close.
00:22:02.000 How do you know that?
00:22:03.000 It's because the gradation of punishments throughout the Old Testament were based on the actual crime.
00:22:08.000 It wasn't capital punishment for everything, okay?
00:22:11.000 And so there's a hierarchy to the good.
00:22:14.000 There's also a hierarchy to the defiance of the good and the rebellion against the Creator.
00:22:20.000 And involved in that is whether or not you care at all about your community.
00:22:25.000 And so I don't love the term politics because people don't even know what it means.
00:22:29.000 But it really comes from a Greek term, which means the business of the community.
00:22:34.000 And so a pastor will say, I don't do politics.
00:22:36.000 Well, do you do your community?
00:22:38.000 Do you care about what's happening around you?
00:22:40.000 Of course, we serve the poor and we care about the homeless.
00:22:44.000 Oh, so you care about the community.
00:22:45.000 What about who's in charge of your community or what laws govern your community?
00:22:49.000 Oh, we don't do that because it's too controversial or it's too messy.
00:22:55.000 Okay, this is what really bothers me about most Christians and most weak pastors.
00:23:00.000 And most churches have very, very weak pastors, and they're just so afraid to engage in this stuff because they haven't been trained or they haven't been educated in this stuff properly.
00:23:10.000 You have to ask the question: what is a human being?
00:23:12.000 If a human being is made in the image of God, it changes the entire game, changes the whole ballgame, right?
00:23:18.000 Therefore, is Jeremiah 29, 7 true, right?
00:23:20.000 Jeremiah 29, 7 says, seek, it's the Hebrew word, badrash, demand the welfare of the nation or the city that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your city's welfare.
00:23:31.000 Is that true or is that false, right?
00:23:33.000 So, as a pastor, as a Christian, you are commanded to care about what's happening around you.
00:23:38.000 That involves voting.
00:23:39.000 By the way, that's the simplest way.
00:23:41.000 I mean, Christians that say they don't vote, that's just so silly.
00:23:44.000 I think it's immoral not to vote.
00:23:46.000 That means I don't care about my fellow man.
00:23:48.000 I don't care about my city.
00:23:50.000 That I'm more important than them.
00:23:52.000 It's an act of defiance against the creator and the creation and his people, which are made in his image, that have a soul.
00:23:59.000 And then people, and then I'll get from pastors, well, it's not, this one pastor I got in a really heated argument with.
00:24:06.000 He's a fool, and I don't say that lightly.
00:24:08.000 He says, it's not clear to me after the last couple years which side I should vote for.
00:24:14.000 And I say, after the last couple years where they kept strip clubs and marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores open and they said the church was not essential, when they forced a gene-altering mRNA shot on our military and kicked out our best than our brightest, our most loyal and courageous because they didn't want to take a shot that very well might have harmed them through a virus that was not going to harm them.
00:24:35.000 You're trying to tell me that it's not clear when we have 5,000 people going across our border every single day, where we had no war in eastern Ukraine and China feared us?
00:24:44.000 It's not clear what side is better, where we had no inflation and our currency was stable.
00:24:49.000 It's not clear which side is better, where all of a sudden we have drag queen story hour in schools across the country and we have genderqueer curriculum and we have the Biden regime that says that transgender people make up the soul of our nation.
00:25:04.000 Two days after a hate crime against Christians was committed in Nashville by a trans activist, you're telling me it's not clear?
00:25:12.000 No, no, it's very clear.
00:25:13.000 You have no courage, Pastor Man, and you should resign.
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00:26:14.000 Come on.
00:26:15.000 Almost fell over.
00:26:15.000 Wow.
00:26:16.000 That's so good.
00:26:17.000 A foot fell asleep.
00:26:19.000 Wow.
00:26:22.000 So we want to give some time for some QA in the audience.
00:26:26.000 So I'm going to tee up one more question, and then we are going to have some microphones on the sides here.
00:26:32.000 And so as this question is wrapping up, if you want to ask a question to Charlie, you can go on either side here of the auditorium.
00:26:41.000 I mean, let's just talk about something really relevant.
00:26:43.000 I'd love to hear your take.
00:26:44.000 We just saw a former president get indicted.
00:26:49.000 What are your initial thoughts on this?
00:26:51.000 And what does this mean as far as the direction we're heading?
00:26:55.000 Yeah, so I'm actually, I was going to do a whole show on this tomorrow so you guys get the kind of the preview.
00:27:01.000 I did a whole show on it today, but somebody said something to me.
00:27:04.000 They said, boy, and I actually said it on my show and it was technically untrue.
00:27:07.000 So I need to correct it.
00:27:09.000 Where I said it was the death of the Constitution.
00:27:11.000 And the actual answer is that the Constitution has been dead for quite some time.
00:27:17.000 It's kind of when you get, for any of you that have had this experience, it's horrifying.
00:27:21.000 But if you ever get in a car accident and you don't really realize how damaged or hurt you are until 10 or 15 seconds after, it's kind of called the aftershock effect.
00:27:30.000 You have adrenaline, but you actually start to feel what happened to you previously.
00:27:35.000 Or an earthquake occurs, right?
00:27:37.000 And you get aftershocks for days that follow, or the tremors that follow, right?
00:27:42.000 So that analogy, the Constitution's been dead for quite some time.
00:27:45.000 And if I had to pinpoint the moment, this is really going to irritate the left, so I definitely need to say it.
00:27:52.000 Is the moment where we kind of just shrugged our shoulders and we rolled our eyes was when the Supreme Court of the United States decided to just overthrow states' rights when it came to homosexual marriage.
00:28:05.000 And this is not talked about.
00:28:07.000 It's not considered to be a popular opinion.
00:28:09.000 But look, marriage is between one man and one woman.
00:28:12.000 Let me just say that that is a belief.
00:28:14.000 It is rooted in scripture.
00:28:14.000 Thank you.
00:28:15.000 Thank you.
00:28:16.000 It's true and it's in tradition.
00:28:18.000 I'm happy to defend that belief.
00:28:20.000 And I get a lot of hate for saying that, which I couldn't care less.
00:28:23.000 But if you disagree with that, that's actually not the core element of my argument.
00:28:28.000 The question is: does the Supreme Court have legislative authority to overturn state-directed, citizen-driven referendums where they wanted to say that marriage was one man, one woman?
00:28:41.000 And they basically made a national, they couldn't pass it through Congress.
00:28:45.000 So Anthony Kennedy issued the majority opinion and they put through the entire thing and they said that the states' rights don't matter.
00:28:53.000 And what I'm getting at is that we've actually ignored the Constitution so often the last couple of years that this should not shock us, that all of a sudden we're just going to throw out the greatest American, the greatest political document in human history.
00:29:08.000 I could go through example after example, but I mean, the fact that they were able to lock us down as much as they were through these lockdowns and mask mandates, we were living in a post-constitutional order.
00:29:21.000 We're just now realizing and recognizing it.
00:29:24.000 I want to paint a picture for you.
00:29:26.000 Imagine a third world country.
00:29:28.000 Pick any third world country of your liking.
00:29:31.000 Laos, Nicaragua, Honduras, Yemen, and Oman.
00:29:37.000 Imagine a headline in the New York Times.
00:29:40.000 Yemen arrests former prime minister, top satirist, political commentator from the opposition party, raids home of top journalist.
00:29:52.000 This is unacceptable, the State Department writes.
00:29:57.000 Steve Bannon is under indictment, top political commentator for the opposition party.
00:30:01.000 James O'Keefe, top political journalist, is under three separate federal investigations, top journalist.
00:30:06.000 Satirist Douglas Mackey made a meme making fun of Hillary Clinton.
00:30:09.000 He's probably going to face 10 years in jail, just got convicted by a jury of his peers for a meme.
00:30:13.000 Former president indicted.
00:30:15.000 We would sanction foreign countries for what we're doing to ourselves.
00:30:25.000 We would put people up in front of the UN for saying this is unacceptable, tyrannical, banana republic behavior for what we are doing to ourselves.
00:30:38.000 We would send hundreds of billions of dollars to go fight Putin because he's an authoritarian thug because he locks up political dissidents.
00:30:45.000 I'm no fan of Putin.
00:30:46.000 Hey, newsflash, New York Times, we're locking up political dissidents.
00:30:49.000 How about the January 6th defendants that are rotting in prison in pre-trial detention?
00:30:58.000 So I'm not painting a rosy picture.
00:31:00.000 What I'm trying to tell you is that I hope this has finally confirmed for you and awakened you like, whoa, they have crossed the Rubicon.
00:31:08.000 It is so disgusting.
00:31:10.000 The indictment is a joke.
00:31:11.000 It is an insult to our intelligence.
00:31:13.000 They don't even tell you what is the crime in the indictment.
00:31:16.000 They say, oh, yeah, he falsified business records to cover up a crime.
00:31:20.000 Then Alvin Bragg was asked, hey, what is the crime?
00:31:22.000 And he says, oh, yeah, we don't get into that in the indictment.
00:31:26.000 The time, place, and manner is all screwed up.
00:31:30.000 There's so much wrong with this.
00:31:32.000 But they do not care.
00:31:34.000 And Donald Trump's crime was not paying off Stormy Daniels.
00:31:38.000 Give me a break.
00:31:38.000 Of course not.
00:31:41.000 I didn't say it.
00:31:42.000 And I do not swear as a rule, but I'm getting close because these people are so evil what they are doing.
00:31:50.000 It's hard not to.
00:31:51.000 But I didn't do it.
00:31:52.000 I did not.
00:31:53.000 I did not.
00:31:54.000 I probably would have, to be honest, but good job.
00:31:56.000 But self-control is a fruit of the spirit.
00:31:58.000 There it is.
00:32:05.000 His crime, his crime was winning the 2016 presidential election.
00:32:11.000 Yep.
00:32:12.000 It's true.
00:32:13.000 His crime was robbing them of a celebration when Hillary Clinton was supposed to crush the glass ceiling and become the first female president and all that garbage.
00:32:23.000 His crime was sneaking into the presidency.
00:32:26.000 And they said to themselves, We are going to have revenge against you, man.
00:32:31.000 We're going to make you suffer.
00:32:32.000 We're going to humiliate you in the town where you wrote the art of the deal and you saved the convention center and you gave us the Plaza Hotel, not Plaza Hotel, but Hotel Commodore, which became the Grand Hyatt, and you bought the Plaza Hotel and the Woman Rink and you gave hundreds of millions of dollars to charity.
00:32:50.000 Okay, flashy billionaire man who thinks you can defy the ruling class.
00:32:54.000 We're going to humiliate you in a Soviet-style show trial.
00:32:57.000 And you might hate Donald Trump tonight.
00:32:59.000 Your friends might hate Donald Trump tonight.
00:33:01.000 But I question your integrity if you're not angry about this.
00:33:04.000 And I mean that true.
00:33:05.000 I don't care if you hate Donald Trump.
00:33:07.000 I do not care.
00:33:09.000 If you do not have, if you do not have anger pulsating through your being, I don't care if you say he's the worst person ever, if he's a narcissist, if he's all these sorts of things.
00:33:22.000 The way he is being treated is an insult to our system, to our tradition, to our Constitution, to how we go about business.
00:33:33.000 This is not about Trump.
00:33:34.000 Trump just happens to be a small player in a much bigger game in a dark chapter of America.
00:33:39.000 So I hope and I pray that Americans wake up to this.
00:33:43.000 I know many of you are angry because this is not about Trump.
00:33:46.000 This is about the republic that we care about.
00:33:49.000 And to see these people on television, oh, I love it.
00:33:52.000 And this is a great day for America.
00:33:54.000 And that they're so joyous and they're all this.
00:33:57.000 It's disgusting.
00:33:58.000 It's vile.
00:33:58.000 It's ghastly.
00:33:59.000 It's reprehensible.
00:34:00.000 I don't know what's going to come after this.
00:34:02.000 I don't.
00:34:03.000 I can't make any guarantees.
00:34:05.000 I can't make any anthems.
00:34:06.000 But I can tell you this: that the America I grew up in no longer exists.
00:34:12.000 Right.
00:34:13.000 And I hope we can get it back.
00:34:15.000 Amen.
00:34:16.000 Amen.
00:34:17.000 Come on.
00:34:21.000 If you have a question you'd like to ask Charlie, line up by this handsome gentleman named Rich right there, or this handsome gentleman.
00:34:30.000 Actually, yeah, back there on the sides here.
00:34:32.000 So, hey, guys.
00:34:33.000 And then just please, let's just keep it to tight questions of 20 seconds or less.
00:34:38.000 Somebody's going to violate this.
00:34:40.000 That's okay.
00:34:41.000 But I want to get to as many questions and not your lecture.
00:34:45.000 I mean that as lovingly as I can, okay?
00:34:47.000 So.
00:34:48.000 So we're going to start over here.
00:34:49.000 We got a high school student that has a question here.
00:34:52.000 So go ahead.
00:34:54.000 My name is Jackson Smith.
00:34:55.000 And my question is: how do you tell a transgender person that the gender they claim to be is incorrect?
00:35:03.000 You should do so lovingly, but just tell them you're living under a delusion.
00:35:12.000 And no, I mean, let me prove it to you, okay?
00:35:15.000 If somebody came to you and said, I can fly, and I'm going to the tallest building in Utah, and I'm going to show you that if I jump from this building, I'm going to fly.
00:35:26.000 Would it be loving or unloving to tell them, no, you can't?
00:35:29.000 Wow.
00:35:31.000 If somebody came to you and said, I have an invisible friend, and the invisible friend told me I don't need to eat anymore, would it be loving or unloving to tell them they're living under a delusion?
00:35:39.000 Since when do we all of a sudden get really cowardly when somebody starts to believe something that's not true?
00:35:48.000 So good.
00:35:51.000 We'll go on to this side now.
00:35:55.000 My name is Shannon McInnis, Charlie, a huge follower of yours.
00:35:57.000 Not sure if you're aware out here in Utah, but they decided to change our Utah state flag without even asking the people of the people that live here.
00:36:06.000 We're trying to do a referendum on the ballot right now to actually give the people a say, regardless of if you want to preserve our history or not.
00:36:12.000 What are your thoughts on that?
00:36:13.000 And were you ever aware of that?
00:36:15.000 No, I'm not aware of it.
00:36:17.000 But as a general rule, I think that anything the progressives want to change is usually a bad idea.
00:36:23.000 So very true.
00:36:27.000 Thank you.
00:36:28.000 We have two lines, guys.
00:36:29.000 So if you want to maybe get your question in quicker time.
00:36:31.000 This line's bigger.
00:36:32.000 Some people head over there.
00:36:33.000 Okay, we'll go over here next.
00:36:36.000 And I can go in next.
00:36:38.000 What is the single most effective thing that we can do to help you?
00:36:42.000 That's a great, that's a great question and the most important question.
00:36:45.000 Okay, so I get asked, Charlie, what can I do?
00:36:49.000 It seems overwhelming and all this.
00:36:50.000 So there's the macro is incredibly depressing right now, right?
00:36:56.000 But you must understand that dutiful action to the Lord and to your nation in the micro is necessary day by day.
00:37:06.000 So you must do beautiful things every day that are going to live longer than your breath and your existence.
00:37:14.000 Have children.
00:37:15.000 Build institutions of learning.
00:37:17.000 Build churches.
00:37:18.000 Build a business.
00:37:20.000 Build wealth and give it back to people that are fighting.
00:37:23.000 That stuff is way more important that it's going to be long-lasting.
00:37:28.000 So what I'm getting at is become an instrument of your own optimism.
00:37:35.000 People ask me, Charlie, are you optimistic or pessimistic?
00:37:37.000 I refuse to answer the question.
00:37:39.000 Because if I say I'm optimistic, you're going to go home and say, oh, we think I don't have to do anything because Charlie said we're optimistic.
00:37:45.000 If I say I'm pessimistic, you're going to go home and say, I don't have to do anything because, you know, Charlie said it's all over.
00:37:49.000 But I live a beautiful life.
00:37:53.000 I have a wonderful wife.
00:37:54.000 I have a daughter.
00:37:56.000 But also, I have an opportunity to know that every day I'm giving everything I possibly can for the cause.
00:38:02.000 Everything, every ounce of my being, my energy, three hours of radio day, speaking across the country, running an organization, fighting with all these maniacs, right?
00:38:10.000 All this stuff, right?
00:38:12.000 Now, that might not be your calling, right?
00:38:14.000 To do, you know, to be as all involved as I am, but then carve out a fraction of time, energy, money, or resources to do something that will last longer than you.
00:38:25.000 And if you do that for a long period of time and millions of people do that, eventually we're going to see the fruit.
00:38:33.000 Martin Luther had a great quote.
00:38:35.000 He said, if the world was ending tomorrow, I would still plant an apple tree.
00:38:41.000 It is completely irrelevant how dark things look.
00:38:45.000 Stop it.
00:38:46.000 We could talk about that all day long.
00:38:48.000 What are you going to do?
00:38:49.000 I'm going to do something that is bold and good, rooted in duty and virtue and beauty.
00:38:56.000 That's what matters.
00:38:58.000 You have zero excuse not to act.
00:39:01.000 You might say, well, Charlie, be more specific.
00:39:03.000 For young people, get married and have lots of children.
00:39:06.000 For entrepreneurs, make a lot of money.
00:39:09.000 A lot of money.
00:39:10.000 Go make a lot of money, build a business, serve the Lord in that business, and give back that money to this church and a Turning Point USA and to charities and politicians and give faithfully with the fruit that God has given you.
00:39:26.000 Okay?
00:39:27.000 Beautiful.
00:39:30.000 Come on.
00:39:35.000 How's it going, Charlie?
00:39:36.000 I'm Austin.
00:39:36.000 I just had a question related to Second Amendment rights.
00:39:39.000 We saw the shooting that happened recently, and a lot of people are upset.
00:39:43.000 But I'm seeing people argue for the other side that they want to take our Second Amendment rights away.
00:39:49.000 How do we convince them that it's important to have the right to defend ourselves and all that good stuff?
00:39:56.000 Yeah, it's a great question.
00:39:57.000 Thank you.
00:39:57.000 So I'm a big Second Amendment fan, but I think most politicians are cowards when it comes to defending why we have a Second Amendment.
00:40:04.000 This is why I would not be a good politician, or maybe I would.
00:40:06.000 I don't know, but because I actually speak my mind.
00:40:08.000 The Second Amendment is not about hunting.
00:40:10.000 I love hunting.
00:40:11.000 The Second Amendment is not even about personal defense.
00:40:13.000 That is important.
00:40:14.000 The Second Amendment is there, God forbid, so that you can defend yourself against a tyrannical government.
00:40:22.000 Come on.
00:40:28.000 And if that talk scares you, wow, that's radical, Charlie.
00:40:33.000 I don't know about that.
00:40:35.000 Well, then you have not really read any of the literature of our founding fathers.
00:40:39.000 Number two, you've not read any 20th century history.
00:40:41.000 You're just living in Narnia.
00:40:44.000 By the way, if you were actually living in Narnia, you would be wiser than wherever you're living because C.S. Lewis was really smart.
00:40:49.000 So I don't know what alternative universe you're living in.
00:40:53.000 You just don't want to face the reality that governments tend to get tyrannical.
00:40:57.000 And that if people need an ability to protect themselves and their communities and their families.
00:41:01.000 Now, we must also be real.
00:41:03.000 We must be honest with the population.
00:41:06.000 Having an armed citizenry comes with a price.
00:41:09.000 And that is part of liberty.
00:41:13.000 Driving comes with a price.
00:41:15.000 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year.
00:41:20.000 That's a price.
00:41:20.000 You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities.
00:41:24.000 But we have decided that the benefit of driving, speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services, is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road.
00:41:37.000 So we need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero.
00:41:42.000 It will not happen.
00:41:44.000 You can significantly reduce them through having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools.
00:41:56.000 We should have an honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.
00:42:03.000 You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death.
00:42:08.000 That is nonsense.
00:42:09.000 It's drivel.
00:42:10.000 But I think it's worth it.
00:42:13.000 I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.
00:42:24.000 That is a prudent deal.
00:42:26.000 It is rational.
00:42:27.000 Nobody talks like this.
00:42:28.000 They live in a complete alternate universe.
00:42:30.000 So then how do you reduce it?
00:42:32.000 Very simple.
00:42:33.000 People say, oh, Charlie, how do you stop school shootings?
00:42:36.000 How did we stop shootings at baseball games?
00:42:36.000 I don't know.
00:42:40.000 Because we have armed guards outside of baseball games.
00:42:43.000 That's why.
00:42:44.000 How do we stop all the shootings at airports?
00:42:47.000 We have armed guards outside of airports.
00:42:50.000 How do we stop all the shootings at banks?
00:42:52.000 We have armed guards outside of banks.
00:42:56.000 How do we stop all the shootings at gun shows?
00:42:57.000 Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows.
00:43:00.000 There's all these guns because everyone's armed.
00:43:08.000 If our money and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards, why don't our children?
00:43:21.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:43:22.000 Thank you.
00:43:23.000 Thank you.
00:43:27.000 My name is Diane Anderson.
00:43:29.000 I'm the mother of nine, so I've done my duty.
00:43:32.000 Fruitful and multiply.
00:43:35.000 That was my career choice.
00:43:40.000 My definition of gun control is use both hands.
00:43:45.000 But my question is: our government was taken over in bankruptcy over 100 years ago.
00:43:54.000 And we've been being run by a government services provider that's a privately owned company.
00:44:02.000 And they don't, I was told by a magistrate in a magistrate court, I'm claiming my rights in the Constitution.
00:44:12.000 You have to tell me this under the Sixth Amendment and then the Fifth Amendment, etc.
00:44:16.000 And he said, stop talking about the Constitution.
00:44:19.000 It doesn't apply here.
00:44:22.000 You said that out loud.
00:44:24.000 They don't.
00:44:25.000 It's a private corporation, and we are product.
00:44:28.000 So how do we get our Desure Constitutional on-the-land government back?
00:44:34.000 Great question.
00:44:35.000 And you're mostly talking about the Federal Reserve, you know, which is really important.
00:44:39.000 Look, the Federal Reserve should be ended in its current form.
00:44:42.000 It's a travesty to a free society.
00:44:46.000 And I yearn for a day where we could talk about currency because what they are doing to the American dollar will impact everybody.
00:44:54.000 It's a little wonky, it's a little abstract, but boy, is it critically important.
00:44:59.000 So look, I'm just going to keep on going back to this refrain, but it needs to be repeated because important things should be repeated.
00:45:04.000 Repetition is the soul of memory, which is you have to be self-sufficient.
00:45:08.000 You have to build out a life where if the currency collapses, you're not going to be in panic.
00:45:15.000 You have to build out a life that if we go into societal bedlam, that you're able to be able to sustain yourself.
00:45:20.000 This is something the Mormons get right.
00:45:21.000 I think it's a requirement.
00:45:22.000 They have to prepare the supplies.
00:45:24.000 I mean, I get these emails, right?
00:45:26.000 Because we have a partnership with My Patriot Supply.
00:45:29.000 It's like the amount of LDS that goes to our promo code is unbelievable.
00:45:33.000 It's like, so you could feed like Cambodia with it.
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00:45:43.000 I'm not kidding.
00:45:44.000 I was going to give that.
00:45:45.000 I'm a proud prepper, and you should be too.
00:45:47.000 These people are playing a very dangerous game.
00:45:49.000 Societal collapse is the norm, not the exception.
00:45:52.000 Most places fall apart and they don't fall well.
00:45:54.000 So be ready.
00:45:55.000 I'm not telling you it's going to happen, but if it does, don't be taken by surprise.
00:45:58.000 So how do you get your republic back?
00:46:00.000 Well, how can you defend something that most people can't explain?
00:46:03.000 Okay?
00:46:04.000 And so you got to teach.
00:46:05.000 You got to dive deep.
00:46:07.000 Spend time reading the Federalist Papers.
00:46:09.000 Take Hillsdale online courses.
00:46:11.000 Listen to our podcast.
00:46:13.000 I believe, and I don't mean this braggadociously, I think we do a good job as any explaining what Western civilization it is and what you can do to save it and why it matters and why it's exceptional and where does it come from and what you can do to further your world, you know, really further refine your worldview in that regard.
00:46:29.000 And then finally, you have to also know, you have to manage your expectations that politically this place might just become a total and complete mess and get worse.
00:46:39.000 And I mean Utah and nationally.
00:46:41.000 And let me say something really important.
00:46:42.000 I'm so glad I remembered this.
00:46:45.000 Ranked choice voting.
00:46:46.000 They're going to try to bring ranked choice voting statewide here.
00:46:50.000 Is it statewide and every election?
00:46:53.000 Oh, no, I think it's in local elections, right?
00:46:55.000 But it's not in statewide, I don't think, yet.
00:46:57.000 Am I correct?
00:46:58.000 I'm in tracking it.
00:47:00.000 Yeah, ranked choice voting is an awful idea, everybody, okay?
00:47:04.000 You do not know about it.
00:47:05.000 You have to educate yourself on it.
00:47:09.000 It is a garbage, trash, George Soros-funded election manipulation idea that is already here on local level in Utah, and they're trying to bring it statewide.
00:47:19.000 That's a great issue for you guys to champion.
00:47:21.000 It's one you can win on if you educate enough people on it.
00:47:24.000 So, next question.
00:47:25.000 Come on.
00:47:26.000 My name is Yetik Contreras.
00:47:28.000 Question is, if there aren't enough jobs to go around and the government's an employ more people, what happens to the millions of people who want or need jobs and can't find one?
00:47:39.000 Okay, what happens when millions of people need or want jobs and can't find one?
00:47:42.000 Yeah.
00:47:43.000 Yeah, so we do not have that problem right now, but it could happen with automation, but it's still speculative.
00:47:48.000 We actually have the opposite problem.
00:47:50.000 We have a society that doesn't want to work.
00:47:53.000 We have a job opening crisis because, you know, kind of being a bum is in vogue, I guess, and just sitting around and not working.
00:48:00.000 So, yeah, I mean, entrepreneurs will fix that problem.
00:48:04.000 We're not going to have that problem anytime soon.
00:48:06.000 We have a problem of people that cannot find competent labor and skilled labor.
00:48:10.000 So, in automation in the future, that very well might happen with robots and artificial intelligence and the rise of chat GPT, but I still think we're a ways from that.
00:48:19.000 Thank you.
00:48:19.000 Next question.
00:48:20.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:48:21.000 My name's Sierra, and I'm in the field of mental health.
00:48:24.000 And there's no question that we have a really horrible problem with it right now across society.
00:48:28.000 My question to you is: with being a conservative in the therapy and the psychology in psychology, it's very liberal, and we're fighting the boards more than we're fighting trying to get clients in.
00:48:42.000 What would you suggest to someone in that area?
00:48:46.000 What power do we have to the boards?
00:48:48.000 And also, what do you think is going to help in society and mental health?
00:48:53.000 It's great, great.
00:48:54.000 Thank you for being in that field.
00:48:55.000 It's necessary.
00:49:01.000 Most people in the psychology, psychological world are completely messed up in their view of actually what psychology should be.
00:49:10.000 And I'll give you an example, right?
00:49:13.000 It is the wrong moral approach to view your role as a therapist to affirm the error in the patient.
00:49:20.000 You should try to cure the error in the patient.
00:49:24.000 So, this idea of gender-affirming care is wrong from the first couple words.
00:49:29.000 You're not there to affirm the delusion.
00:49:32.000 You're there to cure the person.
00:49:34.000 You're there to heal them.
00:49:36.000 You're there to make them better.
00:49:39.000 But they'll say, like, well, it's the more loving thing to do.
00:49:43.000 And the approach there, it's totally and complete garbage.
00:49:45.000 It's wrong.
00:49:47.000 And by the way, they're a walking contradiction in cognitive behavioral therapy, which is robust and it works.
00:49:54.000 You have to challenge the patient to eventually face the thing that they fear the most.
00:49:59.000 And through courageous action, albeit through a lot of work, you're able to then conquer that.
00:50:06.000 Just like, for example, the fear of flying, right?
00:50:08.000 If somebody has a fear of flying, which is a big issue in America, and praise God, I don't have that problem because I've flown millions of miles, right?
00:50:16.000 The clinical data and literature is not that you try to ban planes.
00:50:25.000 Say that again.
00:50:26.000 Wow.
00:50:26.000 You try to get the person to come in contact with that untrue, intrusive thought that they might be having a false relationship with, and eventually taking that very adventurous and courageous step to step on an airplane.
00:50:42.000 And it works.
00:50:43.000 The clinical data shows that has worked for decades.
00:50:48.000 And yet we throw out all that literature and that proven psychological, not just tradition, but just method for gender affirming.
00:50:58.000 And we say, not only do I have to affirm your delusion, not only, but now I'm going to empower you to make other people that disagree with your delusion to shut them up and to then tell them they're awful.
00:51:11.000 It's creating these mini tyrants.
00:51:14.000 So what can you do?
00:51:15.000 I don't know what you can do, to be honest.
00:51:17.000 It's so over.
00:51:18.000 The American Psychological Association, whatever they call it, the American Association of Psychology, you read what is coming out of it.
00:51:25.000 Is rubbish on the transgender stuff.
00:51:28.000 And the gender dysphoria was something they used to say was a mental condition.
00:51:33.000 Now they say it's about identity and personal safety.
00:51:36.000 And again, don't take my word for it.
00:51:39.000 There is a remnant of dissident, clear-thinking psychologists that think this is insane.
00:51:44.000 Jordan Peterson is one of them, by the way, and I encourage you guys to look into what he's doing.
00:51:49.000 And so I do not have a degree in psychology, which makes me obviously able to talk about this because most people's degrees, no offense, are completely, I think, insane.
00:52:02.000 This doesn't take a lot of, you know, deep thinking, but I want to commend you.
00:52:07.000 I think there's going to be a dissident kind of network of loving, caring counselors and therapists that want to care for people, but do it in a way that will actually help them.
00:52:20.000 Finally, about mental health.
00:52:22.000 I'm a big believer in Dr. Daniel Amon's literature, where he says that it's also a brain health issue, where he's like, the health of your brain is really important.
00:52:32.000 I like it because he's unafraid to talk about how alcohol damages the human brain, how marijuana damages the human brain, how screen time damages the human brain, talking about dopaminergic receptors.
00:52:43.000 I think that we put a lot of that aside to affirm people's addictions when we should try to heal them from their addictions and actually talk about how that negatively impacts their mental health.
00:52:53.000 And then finally, I think that we have a crisis of meaning, and we're wondering why we have the most depressed, suicidal, anxious generation, and alcohol and drug-addicted generation in history.
00:53:05.000 It's because we've decided to say that God is dead.
00:53:09.000 And in its place is a crisis of self-harm like we've never seen before.
00:53:16.000 And so how's that going, atheists?
00:53:18.000 How's that going, secular world?
00:53:20.000 Our kids are killing themselves more than ever before.
00:53:23.000 And the question that they are telling therapists by the age of 12 is: I don't know a reason to live.
00:53:29.000 This is a new phenomenon that is an outgrowth of the secular poison, the arsenic that has permanated our society.
00:53:37.000 Jesus is the answer to that.
00:53:39.000 Come on.
00:53:42.000 Thank you for the question.
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00:54:51.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.
00:54:52.000 Thank you for coming.
00:54:52.000 My name is Mary.
00:54:53.000 My question is that you say the Constitution is dead based on the Bergfeld decision, but I'm a big fan of the Constitution.
00:54:59.000 And I have to disagree with you given the historical precedent such as Plessy versus Ferguson being overturned by Brownie Board and recently v. Wade being overturned by the Dobbs versus Jackson decision.
00:55:11.000 Given this, how can you say that the Constitution is completely dead?
00:55:14.000 Well, that's a good question.
00:55:16.000 I mean, yeah, I'm not saying it's completely dead, but it's certainly dead in the original intent or the framework that the founders wanted.
00:55:22.000 I mean, but you look, constitutionally, right, as an equal protection promise and guarantee, how on earth are we able to have January 6th defendants in pre-trial detention for two years?
00:55:35.000 How is that a quick and speedy trial as guaranteed by the Constitution?
00:55:40.000 Any lawyer can tell me how that affirms the Constitution in two years of pre-trial detention.
00:55:45.000 Two years.
00:55:46.000 And so, look, elements of the Constitution are still alive and well in certain pockets, but is the tradition, is the promise guaranteed?
00:55:55.000 I'll give you another example.
00:55:56.000 Our government spies on us all the time.
00:55:58.000 The Fourth Amendment, right down the road, actually, is where the data center is for the National Security Agency.
00:56:03.000 Some of you probably work there.
00:56:06.000 And I'm sure you're great people, but watch yourself.
00:56:12.000 It says warrantless search and seizure.
00:56:14.000 We do it every single day with the Patriot Act.
00:56:17.000 We spied on moms and dads that showed up at school board meetings and called them domestic terrorists.
00:56:24.000 And so my provocative take is that elements of the Constitution have been dead for quite some time.
00:56:31.000 Yes, to your point, I think it's a good one that there are some pockets of, you know, a remnant here and a remnant there, but we are living in a post-constitutional America.
00:56:40.000 And I do not take joy or delight in saying that.
00:56:43.000 Next question.
00:56:44.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:56:45.000 Thanks for your passion.
00:56:46.000 Thanks for your fight.
00:56:47.000 My question is, you know, I'm one of those crazy people in my family.
00:56:50.000 I'm the one that's always on my phone.
00:56:52.000 I'm getting banned.
00:56:52.000 I'm getting blocked.
00:56:54.000 And, you know, before Trump, I never even voted, right?
00:56:56.000 And I feel a duty every single day to get word out.
00:57:00.000 I own a health and wellness store.
00:57:01.000 I'm constantly passing information to people on health and wellness, on how to help yourself, on how to get yourself in order, wake you up.
00:57:09.000 But my question is, you know, being a Christian, right?
00:57:11.000 I mean, I love God, but this whole thing has made me swear a lot.
00:57:14.000 And I've had to repent quite a bit.
00:57:18.000 I've had to swear a lot on this.
00:57:20.000 I've been praying more.
00:57:20.000 Just ask God to forgive me.
00:57:22.000 But as a Christian, it's my duty to fight.
00:57:25.000 And my daughters sometimes think I'm crazy.
00:57:27.000 And I'll tell them, I go, you know what?
00:57:28.000 I'm going to go down with the fight.
00:57:29.000 I'm not going to sit around.
00:57:31.000 I'm not just going to sit back and let our country be taken care of us.
00:57:35.000 But as a Christian, how far is this going to go before being a Christian and where do we take a stand?
00:57:41.000 Well, I think we are taking a stand.
00:57:43.000 The question is how?
00:57:44.000 And how do we do it prudently?
00:57:45.000 I'll give a couple things.
00:57:46.000 You triggered something I want to mention to the previous question that I had to mention.
00:57:50.000 We are way over-medicated as a society, okay?
00:57:53.000 We are way over-medicated.
00:57:55.000 And psychiatrists should use benzodiazepine, Zoloft, Xanax, and SSRIs as a last resort, instead of an initial resort.
00:58:04.000 I firmly believe, and I think the literature supports it, that the damage done to young developing minds when you give them pharmacological compounds is overwhelming and it's significant.
00:58:15.000 And it's a tragedy how many kids are on antidepressants and they do not need to be on antidepressants.
00:58:20.000 How about this?
00:58:20.000 Check their vitamin D level and get it over 75 before you give them a serotonin disruptor, right?
00:58:27.000 I mean, give me a break.
00:58:28.000 So, by the way, vitamin D could solve a lot of problems.
00:58:32.000 That's not a joke.
00:58:33.000 That could have solved a lot of COVID problems.
00:58:35.000 It could solve a lot of hormone problems.
00:58:37.000 It could solve, it's just that it's too simple and no one gets rich off of vitamin D, right?
00:58:41.000 Again, it doesn't solve every problem, but when was the last time you heard the CDC run PSAs about getting people's vitamin D levels up?
00:58:48.000 Anyway, so to your point, look, I want to be very clear, and I can hear your passion on all this.
00:58:53.000 You know, Lekwalessa was meeting with a group of Soviet dissidents, and there was a guy who thought he was going to win praise of Lekwalesa.
00:59:02.000 And Lekwalessa was, of course, the head of the Poland and helped bring down the Soviet Union.
00:59:06.000 And this was a guy that was a dissident, and he was intentionally defied the Soviet Union, and he saw the rule, and he defied the rule, and he went in prison, and then he was eventually released, and he went to Lekwalesa and told the story.
00:59:18.000 And like Willessa said, Yeah, I don't think you did the right thing.
00:59:22.000 We have enough martyrs.
00:59:24.000 He said, What we need is people that fight prudently and incrementally so that they can last.
00:59:29.000 He said, You were of no use once you were in prison.
00:59:32.000 So, what I'm getting at is that you must ask the Lord for wisdom and he'll give it to you generously, but you should not be reckless, right?
00:59:41.000 And you should not act in a way where you know the response is going to be they take you out immediately, right?
00:59:49.000 So, whether it be getting banned on social media or whatever, instead, it's how am I going to stay in the fight for multiple decades to expose tyranny and build things and build infrastructure and push back against this?
01:00:00.000 We have enough martyrs, we do not need martyrs for martyrs' sake, so do not seek martyrdom.
01:00:05.000 If it finds you, that's a separate issue, right?
01:00:08.000 Right?
01:00:09.000 Instead, you should be how do I last?
01:00:11.000 How do I endure?
01:00:14.000 That's a much more important attitude to have.
01:00:19.000 Hi, hi, my name is Skye, and I was wondering what advice would you give to me for all the negativity about telling the truth?
01:00:32.000 Can you repeat part of it?
01:00:33.000 Something about telling, I'm sorry.
01:00:36.000 Wait, where did you lose me out?
01:00:37.000 Just something about I didn't hear the question.
01:00:40.000 Just repeat the question.
01:00:41.000 My name is Skye, and I was wondering what advice would you give me for children, for people my age to deal with all the negativity about when telling the truth to people.
01:01:00.000 That's a great, thank you.
01:01:01.000 I'm sorry.
01:01:02.000 And then, wait, I have one more.
01:01:03.000 Can I have, wait, can I have one minute to take a picture with you after this?
01:01:08.000 Sure, yes, of course you can.
01:01:09.000 Yes, as Pastor Jürgen would say, you ask and you shall receive.
01:01:23.000 Have not because you asked not.
01:01:28.000 I have to do one Pastor Juergen impersonation every time I'm out of wait.
01:01:32.000 So good, Charlie.
01:01:33.000 So good.
01:01:35.000 So, nailed it.
01:01:40.000 So, to your first, telling the truth will come at a price.
01:01:44.000 It is not a question, it is a guarantee of the scriptures.
01:01:48.000 And so, how do you deal with it?
01:01:50.000 You have to look at it as no different as I'm going to get tougher and my muscles are going to get stronger.
01:01:57.000 The earlier in life you adopt the attitude not for God to remove difficult circumstances, but instead to make you stronger for difficult circumstances, the happier and better life you will live.
01:02:11.000 One of the big problems to go with the mental health issue is we have convinced young people that we can rearrange society so that suffering will never touch you.
01:02:21.000 Instead, we should say, Let's make you tougher so when suffering does come in your life, you can endure it and still be happy and joyful.
01:02:31.000 Thank you, man.
01:02:32.000 God bless you.
01:02:32.000 Come on.
01:02:33.000 Next question.
01:02:34.000 And yes, come get a picture afterwards, okay?
01:02:37.000 Hi, my name's Ethan.
01:02:39.000 I've been involved in political debates and discussions since I was in fifth grade.
01:02:43.000 And so, knowing all the stuff I know now, I'm kind of more afraid to step into the career field at Métis now in the senior and high school.
01:02:52.000 How am I as a conservative supposed to interact in society while still being able to find a job and not get fired for my beliefs?
01:02:58.000 Yeah, that's an understandable fear.
01:03:01.000 So, the question is: what do you fear, right?
01:03:05.000 And if you fear not making a wage, okay, or do you fear the backlash?
01:03:10.000 Do you fear the intimidation, right?
01:03:12.000 And that's a question only you can answer.
01:03:15.000 You should fear God more than all of those things, though, okay?
01:03:19.000 And the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
01:03:21.000 So again, do not be reckless.
01:03:23.000 God gives us reason and he gives us self-control.
01:03:26.000 At the same time, you have a choice to make.
01:03:28.000 And I don't know what choice you'll make, and both of them are understandable.
01:03:31.000 I can tell you what choice I make and what choice I want more people to make, right?
01:03:35.000 Choice A is that I am going to conform because I want a good job and I'm afraid of the alphabet mafia.
01:03:42.000 I am afraid of the rainbow jihadists.
01:03:45.000 I'm afraid of these people that are going to try to ruin my life.
01:03:48.000 But I want a good job and I want to be able to buy a home.
01:03:51.000 But you will not be free and you will not be happy because you will have to be a different person in public than you are in private.
01:03:58.000 And that creates double-mindedness and tension, unhappiness, and despair.
01:04:02.000 But maybe making money is important to you because it is for a lot of people.
01:04:07.000 And they tell me, Charlie, I can't do that because I might lose my job and I have a mortgage to pay.
01:04:11.000 Okay.
01:04:12.000 But let me tell you the path that you might want to take.
01:04:14.000 Again, I'm not you.
01:04:15.000 The path is this.
01:04:16.000 Say, hey, I'm going to be the same person in public that I am in private.
01:04:20.000 Wow.
01:04:21.000 So good.
01:04:22.000 And I might not make the same wage immediately, but I'll be free.
01:04:26.000 And I don't have to do the.
01:04:29.000 Is anybody listening?
01:04:32.000 Or, oh boy, did I just text somebody something I didn't mean to text them?
01:04:35.000 Or did I get found out that I went to an event?
01:04:37.000 Or did I ask a question?
01:04:38.000 Or did they find out I own a MAGA hat?
01:04:40.000 It's irrelevant because everyone knows how you feel and you're free.
01:04:43.000 The number one form of censorship in America is self-censorship.
01:04:47.000 And look, there's a lot of good people that self-censor, but you're in your own self-created tyranny.
01:04:52.000 Let me tell you this.
01:04:53.000 The fear that you're not going to be able to make a wage because you speak your mind is largely unfounded.
01:04:59.000 There is a parallel economy of entrepreneurs that are rising up in record numbers that will not just be okay, they'll be enthusiastic to hire you if you speak your mind.
01:05:10.000 So you have a choice to make.
01:05:15.000 Whatever choice you make will be the right decision for you.
01:05:20.000 I want to live in a country where people say boldly, I'm going to be the same person in all circumstances.
01:05:27.000 That will make America a freer country.
01:05:29.000 Amazing.
01:05:30.000 We can do two more.
01:05:31.000 One here, one there, and then we have to wrap, okay?
01:05:34.000 Hi, Mr. Kirk.
01:05:35.000 Thank you for being here.
01:05:36.000 My name is David Barski.
01:05:38.000 We are being lied to every day by the mainstream media.
01:05:42.000 What advice could you offer us to influence or minimize the impact that they have on our nation today?
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01:06:48.000 And tons of other people hear our message.
01:06:50.000 And by the way, this conversation will be reposted on that podcast feed.
01:06:54.000 And so the first thing on the media is stop giving them support.
01:06:58.000 Stop listening to the CNN.
01:06:59.000 Stop reading the New York Times, right?
01:07:02.000 And then support independent journalism, right?
01:07:04.000 It might be the Charlie Kirk show.
01:07:06.000 It might be Steve Bannon's program.
01:07:08.000 It might be James O'Keefe's new media company.
01:07:10.000 It might be what Tim Poole is doing, which I'm a big fan of.
01:07:13.000 Whatever it is, find independent content creators that are out there, that speak their mind, that are really willing to push the boundaries, that are obviously not controlled by the corporate unit party, and then say, I'm going to give them my attention.
01:07:25.000 You might not agree with them on everything, and have some grace because it might not be as well-produced as the big flashy products, but then use your news consumption choices in alignment with the people that are really standing courageously, right?
01:07:37.000 That's my recommendation, whether it be Matt Walsh or the Daily Wire or whatever it is, right?
01:07:42.000 That goes out that new media because, yes, the mainstream media is lying to you, but we're living through.
01:07:48.000 This is you want hope?
01:07:49.000 The new media landscape, everybody, is the healthiest it has been in my 11 years of doing this.
01:07:55.000 I look to my left and I look to my right, and I see fighters that are wise and learned and filled with the spirit.
01:08:03.000 I see Matt Walsh, I see Michael Knowles, I see Candace Owens, I see Steve Bannon, I see Jack Pesobic, I see James O'Keefe, and these people are young and they're they work hard and they're industrious and they got a spine.
01:08:16.000 I was going to use another piece of anatomy, but they have a spine.
01:08:19.000 And 10 years ago, it was hard to find courageous media.
01:08:24.000 It was the same mockingbird nonsense on TV over, and it might have been on talk radio with Rush or Levin.
01:08:30.000 Now it's everywhere.
01:08:31.000 We got Bongino, we got these amazing people that are leaning in and they're punching back.
01:08:36.000 So I think we're actually living in a real hopeful moment.
01:08:39.000 The mainstream media is less popular than ever before.
01:08:41.000 The New York Times is losing money.
01:08:43.000 The Washington Compost is losing money.
01:08:46.000 The MSNDC is losing money, right?
01:08:49.000 And they're losing viewership.
01:08:50.000 And so please, I implore you, support the good guys.
01:08:53.000 Support those of us that are doing daily content.
01:08:56.000 It is hard.
01:08:56.000 It is expensive.
01:08:57.000 It's risky, but boy, it is worth it.
01:09:00.000 Because when I see all of a sudden that we reached literally last year, 140 million individual people downloaded our podcast.
01:09:08.000 I'm like, hey, you know, we did something.
01:09:10.000 And praise God for that.
01:09:12.000 Come on.
01:09:13.000 Last question.
01:09:16.000 News, Jake Oaks.
01:09:17.000 I'm going to start with a quick analogy, then turn it into a question.
01:09:21.000 You got 20 seconds.
01:09:21.000 We're already over time.
01:09:22.000 If there's a repairman who causes an electrical issue to your oven and keeps catching fire because some electrical issue, and you get really good at extinguishing the fire, you wouldn't say you've solved the core issue by putting out fires.
01:09:36.000 So how do we help the conservative movement understand that simply being reactive to issues is not solving our core problem?
01:09:44.000 We've got to learn timeless principles.
01:09:46.000 Yeah, no, I agree.
01:09:47.000 So how do we do that?
01:09:49.000 We have to teach and we have to learn and we have to demand depth.
01:09:54.000 You have to reject just people that just talk about talking points all the time on TV.
01:09:58.000 Just change the channel.
01:09:59.000 This is boring.
01:09:59.000 This is banal.
01:10:00.000 This is shallow, right?
01:10:02.000 Teach me something.
01:10:03.000 Come on.
01:10:04.000 Talk about social nets and talk about Kafka.
01:10:07.000 Talk about Kessler, Orwell, Huxley.
01:10:10.000 Dive into Plato and Aristotle, Aquinas, and Augustine.
01:10:13.000 Get into the great books that built the West.
01:10:15.000 When have you said something new?
01:10:17.000 Tucker Carlson does a great job of this.
01:10:18.000 Most don't, right?
01:10:20.000 Have you gone deep into these ideas?
01:10:21.000 Have you explained where we're coming from?
01:10:23.000 And has this ever happened before?
01:10:24.000 So you have to demand that from the people that are communicating with you, right?
01:10:29.000 And if not, change the channel and stop supporting them.
01:10:31.000 And then there is no reason why, in your free time, you cannot take Hillsdale online courses like charlieforhillsdale.com.
01:10:38.000 How do we play offense?
01:10:39.000 We play offense by going deep because there is an unbelievably beautiful canon in the Western tradition to tell us what we are fighting for.
01:10:47.000 I'm telling you, go on that journey.
01:10:49.000 Challenge yourself.
01:10:50.000 Read hard to understand books.
01:10:53.000 Read Dostoevsky.
01:10:55.000 Read the books that help build the West.
01:10:57.000 Read Nietzsche, right?
01:10:59.000 Which he predicted the downfall were in.
01:11:00.000 He is also a lot of garbage.
01:11:02.000 But, you know, read Jefferson.
01:11:03.000 And if that's too much for you, just read C.S. Lewis.
01:11:07.000 Every Christian should read C.S. Lewis one thing at least once a year.
01:11:11.000 Mirror Christianity, screw tape letters, that hideous strength, abolition of man, Narnia.
01:11:16.000 The guy was a legend, and it's very digestible.
01:11:19.000 What am I getting into?
01:11:20.000 Is that if you want to all of a sudden find as if, like, Charlie, I don't know what to do, spend time learning because you're not the first person to ask the question.
01:11:29.000 The more you understand the thing you're trying to protect, the more willing you are to act on it.
01:11:35.000 So, go deep into it.
01:11:36.000 And yes, go deep into the scriptures.
01:11:39.000 Read the word, the entire word, all 66 books.
01:11:43.000 Read Leviticus.
01:11:44.000 You know what Jesus and the founding fathers had in common?
01:11:47.000 They both quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book.
01:11:52.000 So maybe the book of Deuteronomy has something to teach us right now.
01:11:55.000 You know that we get moral and civil law from Deuteronomy?
01:11:58.000 You know, we get separation of powers, consent to the governed.
01:12:00.000 You know, the entire U.S. Constitution was based on the teachings of Deuteronomy.
01:12:04.000 Yet most pastors would not even dare.
01:12:05.000 They can't even spell Deuteronomy, let alone do a teaching on Deuteronomy.
01:12:10.000 Got to go deep.
01:12:10.000 And let me close on this because it's great because I feel the sense of action.
01:12:14.000 I feel commitment.
01:12:15.000 But I see some of you, and I could tell you're rolling your eyes, say, Charlie, I've done everything that's been asked of me.
01:12:20.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.
01:12:23.000 I bought the pillow.
01:12:25.000 I've done everything that has been asked of me.
01:12:29.000 By the way, promo code Kirk at mypillow.com just so we're quick.
01:12:32.000 Good job, Charlie.
01:12:33.000 Good job.
01:12:35.000 Keep them coming.
01:12:38.000 I have Relief Factory.
01:12:40.000 I reverse mortgaged my home.
01:12:42.000 I bought that chair that goes up the stairs.
01:12:44.000 I don't even know what it does.
01:12:44.000 I've done everything, Charlie.
01:12:48.000 Here's the question: If you have not lost something significant in the last three years, you are a spectator, not a participant.
01:12:57.000 We need participants.
01:12:59.000 Do beautiful things.
01:13:00.000 Build big families.
01:13:02.000 Build this church.
01:13:03.000 We need more entrepreneurs.
01:13:04.000 Go create a lot of wealth and give it back.
01:13:06.000 Go employ a lot of people.
01:13:07.000 You're tired of cancel culture and business.
01:13:09.000 Go start your own business.
01:13:10.000 You're made in the image of the Creator.
01:13:12.000 Go create something new.
01:13:13.000 Stop complaining about it.
01:13:15.000 Go support the heroes.
01:13:16.000 There are three types of good people.
01:13:18.000 There are good people that do nothing.
01:13:20.000 Stop being that person if that is you.
01:13:22.000 There are the fighters.
01:13:23.000 Not everybody's a fighter, and that is okay.
01:13:25.000 The fighters, George Washington, in the arena.
01:13:28.000 Fighters like Candace Owens, who's now working with us with Blexit at Turning Point USA.
01:13:31.000 We're really proud of that, right?
01:13:33.000 Fighters that are on the front lines like James O'Keefe.
01:13:35.000 God bless that man.
01:13:36.000 But just as important to the George Washingtons are the John Hancocks.
01:13:40.000 You know, John Hancock was the number one financier of the American Revolution, signed the biggest signature of the Declaration of Independence, but never picked up a weapon, never fired around.
01:13:50.000 Wow.
01:13:51.000 But he's equally as important.
01:13:52.000 So be someone that helps the fighters.
01:13:55.000 So don't be a good person that does nothing.
01:13:58.000 No more spectator.
01:13:59.000 That has to be the pledge you make to yourself tonight.
01:14:02.000 I'm done being a spectator.
01:14:03.000 I might not be a fighter, Charlie.
01:14:04.000 I might not be the person to run for the school board or be a person knock on doors, but Charlie, I'm going to be there for you and for Turning Point USA, praying for you, fasting for you, maybe giving $10 a month.
01:14:14.000 I'm going to be there for you, James O'Keefe, to help you out.
01:14:16.000 I'm going to be there.
01:14:17.000 Say, hey, Charlie, the way I'm going to help you is I'm going to create a billion-dollar business and I'm going to give it back.
01:14:21.000 And I'm going to be the George Soros 10 years from now to finance this new founding conservative movement.
01:14:27.000 We need that, by the way.
01:14:28.000 Whatever it is.
01:14:30.000 So no more spectators.
01:14:34.000 I love the name of your church, Awaken.
01:14:36.000 And I'm doing a pastor's close, which is multiple approaches towards a close.
01:14:41.000 No, I'm not going to do that.
01:14:43.000 Which is awaken.
01:14:45.000 That is what we need in this country.
01:14:47.000 The greatest man to live in the 20th century was Winston Churchill.
01:14:50.000 He was great because he was courageous and he was there for the moment.
01:14:53.000 Winston Churchill was the only man smiling the day after Pearl Harbor.
01:14:57.000 He was happy.
01:14:58.000 He walked into the war cabinet, the thing of whiskey and a cigar, and he proclaimed to his war cabinet, he said, gents, we have won the war.
01:15:06.000 They thought he was delirious, delusional even.
01:15:08.000 I said, what do you mean we have won the war?
01:15:12.000 And he said, no, the war is over.
01:15:14.000 And then a very brave soul said, have you lost your bloody mind?
01:15:19.000 We are losing Royal Air Force members by the hour.
01:15:22.000 The Nazis are bombing London.
01:15:26.000 They're planning an amphibious invasion.
01:15:29.000 We can barely draft an army to defend ourselves.
01:15:32.000 We're evacuating our children to Scotland.
01:15:35.000 What do you mean we have won the war?
01:15:37.000 He took a sip of whiskey and a puff of cigar, and Winston Churchill said, Ah, I've got to know the Americans quite well.
01:15:43.000 And they're a tricky, sometimes mysterious people, always late to the party, but never wrong.
01:15:49.000 You see, the Americans, once they wake from their slumber, there's not a fight that they can't win.
01:15:58.000 And I tell you here, my war cabinet, they are awakened and the war is over.
01:16:03.000 God bless you guys.
01:16:04.000 Thank you so much.
01:16:04.000 Come on, let's give it up for Charlie Kirk.
01:16:08.000 Thank you, Charlie.