The Charlie Kirk Show - The Frontlines of the Culture War with Robby Starbuck

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00:01:57.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:00.000 With us today is Robbie Starbuck, a true culture warrior.

00:02:03.000 He's running for Congress.

00:02:04.000 I hope he wins.

00:02:05.000 He's a great American.

00:02:07.000 You've probably seen him on Twitter, and you've definitely seen some of his work.

00:02:10.000 Robbie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:12.000 Thank you.

00:02:13.000 So happy to be here.

00:02:14.000 Big fan of the show.

00:02:15.000 Thank you.

00:02:16.000 You're very kind to say that.

00:02:17.000 And your race is going very well.

00:02:18.000 We were talking beforehand.

00:02:20.000 You're running in Tennessee.

00:02:21.000 You have a thousand volunteers.

00:02:22.000 It's very exciting.

00:02:24.000 And I want to talk about that.

00:02:25.000 But first, can you give us just a little bit of your biography?

00:02:28.000 You've worked in Hollywood.

00:02:29.000 You've worked on these big film projects.

00:02:33.000 And then I want to go into something we were also just talking about, which was about how these projects actually target young people.

00:02:40.000 So tell us a little bit about yourself.

00:02:42.000 Absolutely.

00:02:42.000 So my initial background is as a director in Hollywood.

00:02:46.000 I've directed stars like Natalie Portman, Snoop Dogg, Smashing Pumpkins, Gucci Main, Megan Fox.

00:02:52.000 The list goes on and on.

00:02:53.000 It's tons.

00:02:54.000 Very, very diverse sort of group of people I've directed.

00:02:58.000 And yeah, that's essentially it.

00:03:00.000 And coming from a background, my family came from Cuba.

00:03:03.000 I knew in 2015 I had to stand up and do something and use the platform I had to endorse Trump and I did it.

00:03:09.000 And they hated me for it, but I have never been happier I did it because I saw the same train coming. 1.00

00:03:16.000 This already stole everything from my family, you know, in Cuba. 1.00

00:03:20.000 So I see that same train coming and I know I have to do something and that's why I'm running for Congress now. 1.00

00:03:26.000 I love it.

00:03:26.000 So talk about how the moral degeneracy, the quite honestly, I can't even watch the Grammys.

00:03:34.000 I saw a clip of it.

00:03:35.000 I said, this is terrible.

00:03:37.000 I mean, this deserves to be on a restricted website, if anywhere.

00:03:40.000 It doesn't deserve to be anywhere, but not on network television of Cardi B, who's a talentless hack, and she's not a smart person, and she's not a good person either. 1.00

00:03:51.000 Basically being a predator to our young women, saying this is how you should act as a stripper.

00:03:56.000 What are your thoughts on that?

00:03:58.000 Is the content built for that?

00:04:01.000 Do they know they're communicating to young people, or is this just something they don't quite realize?

00:04:05.000 They don't just know that they're doing it, they're designing everything they do around targeting kids in that age range of about 12 to 16.

00:04:15.000 And, you know, to go a step further with it, people like Cardi B, they intrinsically themselves personally know what they're doing.

00:04:22.000 And, you know, I have to ask people: if a man, you know, just some random guy off the street, he made a video that was similar to the WAP video or to what we saw on stage at the Grammys last night, and he showed that to 13-year-old girls, where would he be right now?

00:04:37.000 He'd be in prison.

00:04:38.000 He'd be in prison because it's indecent exposure to a minor.

00:04:41.000 And it would clearly be grooming behavior.

00:04:44.000 But when somebody like Cardi B does it or a major record label does it, it's not, it's, it's not suddenly for some reason.

00:04:50.000 You know, it just seems like you, you, you have all these hypocritical things where they're allowed to do things that everybody else isn't allowed to do.

00:04:56.000 Like at the Gramies last night, they had all these stars on the red carpet not wearing masks, hugging and touching each other, while at the same time in Burbank, at the same time, they were turning off the electricity of a small business because they dared to stay open under these tyrannical rules that California has set.

00:05:16.000 But those rules do not apply to the aristocracy.

00:05:19.000 They only apply to the peasants.

00:05:22.000 And that's what Democrats are doing all over the country.

00:05:25.000 They're creating different classes of people, and their class is allowed to do whatever they want.

00:05:29.000 While the people, the real Americans, are not allowed to do almost anything without the, you know, the firm sort of like, yes, you can from Democrats.

00:05:41.000 They need that to be able to do anything now.

00:05:43.000 And it's, it's insane.

00:05:45.000 That's a great analysis.

00:05:46.000 And I want to dive into that.

00:05:48.000 And then I want to ask, what type of Republican are you going to be, which matters a lot to me and to our listeners, but we'll get to that in a second.

00:05:55.000 I want to focus in on this, though.

00:05:56.000 You're trying to tell me that there are Hollywood producers, Hollywood writers, Hollywood editors, what are you going to call them?

00:06:02.000 Directors, however, the hierarchy works that say, you know what would make us happy or make us more money or our business model?

00:06:11.000 Let's get 11 and 12 year olds exposed to something that is basically pornography. 0.93

00:06:16.000 Is that right?

00:06:18.000 It's essentially their business model is how can we get the most clicks, the most shares, the most views?

00:06:24.000 And that they know based on the analytics of past videos is the raunchier you are, the more controversial you are, the more clicks, the more views you get.

00:06:32.000 So they go into it knowing that and they build their concepts around that.

00:06:35.000 And honestly, a lot of directors in Hollywood are partially responsible because they sit there with the labels, they come up with this stuff.

00:06:40.000 And part of how they pitch it is, how can this go viral?

00:06:44.000 What is the point of this going to make the media go crazy or make people go crazy and make them share it?

00:06:49.000 What is going to feel like counterculture where kids will feel like, well, I'm not supposed to be watching this, but I'm watching this.

00:06:55.000 I'm going to share it with my friend who's not supposed to watch it.

00:06:57.000 And they build it around those ideas.

00:06:59.000 You know, so that moral degeneracy is something that is going to have real impacts down the line.

00:07:04.000 We're raising a generation of kids who are kids and we don't treat them like it.

00:07:09.000 We treat them like they're adults who are able to take on adult issues.

00:07:12.000 And that is not the case.

00:07:13.000 And I think that's one of the biggest problems is we're completely deleting innocence from childhood.

00:07:17.000 Well, the left has always wanted to do that.

00:07:20.000 And hilariously, we're having this robust conversation, not even a robust conversation.

00:07:24.000 Like Dr. Seuss is somehow a threat to children.

00:07:26.000 And yes, Cardi B is.

00:07:27.000 Seuss is that lap is okay.

00:07:30.000 That's where we're at.

00:07:31.000 That's right.

00:07:32.000 And Aunt Jemima, Gone with the Wind, Mr. Potato Head.

00:07:35.000 We have a whole kind of in memory in memoriam, right?

00:07:38.000 We're adding to it all of it, you know, just Mr. Potato Head, all that.

00:07:42.000 And somehow, Cardi B doing that is perfectly okay.

00:07:46.000 And that's nothing new.

00:07:48.000 We have seen the hypersexualization of Hollywood in recent years.

00:07:53.000 Even on Instagram, there are posts that I can't believe are allowed on that platform.

00:07:58.000 And this is an interesting wrinkle that we don't talk about enough, but you kind of foreshadowed something, Robbie, that I want to ask you about.

00:08:04.000 Where does this lead?

00:08:07.000 It leads somewhere.

00:08:08.000 Well, I think we see partially right now in universities where it leads.

00:08:11.000 It leads to Marxism, you know, but essentially, you know, the most important part of what Democrats have done to get to this point in time and how they plan to get further is subtlety.

00:08:21.000 They started being very subtle about 25 years ago in all forms of media, academia, and they would subtly push messages about morality and what was virtuous and moral and what they believed in.

00:08:31.000 And it was always counter to what conservatives believed in, but they did it in sort of subtle ways.

00:08:35.000 So we've gotten to a point now where in the most recent Scooby-Doo movie, they're doing this more overtly now, where they give references to people like Ruth Bader Ginsburg as heroes of women's rights, and then they trash toxic masculinity in the movie.

00:08:46.000 And then they give a shout out to Tinder in the movie.

00:08:49.000 And so what kid watching Scooby-Doo needs to know about Tinder?

00:08:52.000 That's my question.

00:08:53.000 They don't need to, period.

00:08:54.000 It's done specifically to message to them on political issues that will lean them towards the left.

00:09:00.000 And what happens is over time, as they go to school, this is all reflected back to them again.

00:09:04.000 You know, I can give you a clear example.

00:09:05.000 My own daughter, she had a Cheguevara poster in her Spanish classroom, and her teacher started to teach kids they should call people Latinx.

00:09:13.000 Okay.

00:09:14.000 They've done polling on this, even Think Progress did it, far left organization. 0.98

00:09:17.000 98% of Latino people don't want to be called this, but they insist on pushing these things.

00:09:22.000 And then the kids eventually go to college where all of these subtle points they've had throughout their life are reflected back to them as moral, true, and intelligent. 0.95

00:09:30.000 And that's the key important part is that you're an intelligent person if you believe these things.

00:09:36.000 And obviously, we know that's not true, but once that's reflected back to them, they go home hating the values they were raised with.

00:09:42.000 And not only we're paying for it.

00:09:44.000 And so if we want that to change, we have to number one, invest in alternatives and have your kids watching things that reflect your values, not that are, you know, undermining you at every turn.

00:09:55.000 Your kids should be watching Charlie Kirk, not, you know, WAP.

00:09:59.000 And you need to be in control of that.

00:10:01.000 You're the parent.

00:10:02.000 You should be the one making sure that your kids, you know what they're watching and you know what the game is.

00:10:07.000 You know, you have to know what time it is.

00:10:09.000 And a lot of people have lost sight of that, what time it is.

00:10:12.000 And it is a time for bold action and knowing what is going on.

00:10:16.000 And more people need to do that.

00:10:19.000 I love that.

00:10:20.000 I have a side question that is related, but I'm just curious.

00:10:24.000 What is Latinx and why do I have to use this phrase?

00:10:26.000 I had a guy that came up to me at this event at North Carolina State and he said, all of my Latinx friends, I said, what are you talking about?

00:10:33.000 I've never heard this phrase.

00:10:34.000 And now it's, I see that in articles.

00:10:36.000 What is a total sidebar?

00:10:37.000 But seriously, what is it?

00:10:39.000 Yeah.

00:10:39.000 So it's, it's a, well, it's an evidence of lunacy and the fact that we need more mental institutions.

00:10:44.000 But what it really is, is these people, they decided that Latino is too gendered.

00:10:50.000 And so you need to have a non-gendered term because gender is inherently bad to the left. 0.88

00:10:55.000 They believe that there shouldn't be no difference between men and women, which is complete lunacy.

00:10:59.000 And the more we actually speak up about these things and make it clear to Latino communities and black communities across America that, hey, this is what they're pushing.

00:11:08.000 This is what they want for you. 0.61

00:11:08.000 The more successful we're going to be because they think it's crazy too. 0.61

00:11:11.000 We can see that in the polling.

00:11:13.000 But the funny part of it is we already had non-gendered terms.

00:11:16.000 We had Latin or Hispanic.

00:11:18.000 You could use these terms pretty interchangeably. 0.99

00:11:20.000 We didn't need a new one.

00:11:22.000 The point of it was to change language because linguistics is the name of the game for the left.

00:11:28.000 The more you change language and the more you change the set of things that we've all agreed on as a society, the more you can push for change.

00:11:36.000 You know, the more you stoke those divides where people are questioning what they're willing to accept.

00:11:41.000 And so that's what they do on purpose.

00:11:43.000 They knew there was already a non-gendered term that they could use. 0.95

00:11:45.000 They didn't care.

00:11:46.000 They wanted to create strife because that's how they get towards the vision that they see, which is a Marxist divided states of America.

00:11:56.000 I was an impressively bad Spanish student in high school.

00:11:59.000 It was just awful. 0.98

00:12:00.000 But I even know that baked into the Spanish language is gender. 0.96

00:12:06.000 It's all gendered. 0.95

00:12:07.000 Right. 1.00

00:12:08.000 That's part.

00:12:09.000 They just want to just change.

00:12:10.000 Part, they want to change the whole language. 0.98

00:12:12.000 Yeah, they do. 0.84

00:12:13.000 They do want to change the whole language.

00:12:14.000 I've already seen this ruminating in the same way.

00:12:17.000 So Latinx started ruminating about five years ago-ish, where I started seeing it for the first time and hearing about this.

00:12:22.000 And of course, it was all white progressives who, you know, they're really regressives, but it was all these people, mostly working at universities.

00:12:29.000 They're the ones pushing this.

00:12:30.000 And I was like, this is going to come up, trust me.

00:12:32.000 And at this point now, this last year, a bunch of journalism, you know, their books that they put out, they give their rules of how they're going to refer to things.

00:12:40.000 They changed the way that they refer to Latinos to Latinx and all these major, you know, I hate to even call them media journalists because they're not journalists.

00:12:48.000 These are activists.

00:12:50.000 And so they're baking in all their woke activism and politics into the way they write stories.

00:12:55.000 So when you read an article from what used to be a wire service, they're now using that term, you know, so it's very clear what's going on.

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00:14:25.000 Okay, so let's get to some of the other cultural issues that are happening.

00:14:29.000 And you and I both spoke at CPAC.

00:14:31.000 You gave some great remarks.

00:14:33.000 Can you talk about the threat that big tech poses to our civilization?

00:14:38.000 And we've gotten to great detail about this, but help build this out for us.

00:14:43.000 You've spent time around the cultural elites.

00:14:45.000 You made movies with them.

00:14:47.000 Tell us from that perspective, the existential threat.

00:14:50.000 And again, we are not saying that lightly.

00:14:55.000 We are conservatives.

00:14:56.000 So for something to be an existential threat, it's a legitimate existential threat, not that it's hailing when you think it should be snowing or whatever the climate change people want.

00:15:04.000 Tell us why this is an existential threat.

00:15:08.000 There's two existential threats we have right now that are the most massive. 0.99

00:15:12.000 And one is big tech, the other is China. 0.91

00:15:14.000 And big tech, and they're actually intrinsically intertwined.

00:15:17.000 But big tech, essentially, these same cultural elites that run big tech run Hollywood, they run academia.

00:15:23.000 They all want one thing.

00:15:24.000 They want to create a second class of citizen in the country, which is conservatives.

00:15:28.000 And you're seeing this already in the messaging and the media and the way they talk about conservatives and the dehumanizing language they use.

00:15:34.000 And so the algorithms are built to further this goal.

00:15:39.000 And that's probably the most dangerous part and least talked about is the way these algorithms work.

00:15:42.000 Because right now, you know, if you go and we use the term Google for search, you know, you don't even say go search this, you say Google it.

00:15:50.000 And that in itself is a problem.

00:15:51.000 But when people go to Google and they search out something about gun rights, what are they delivered to their screen?

00:15:56.000 They're delivered propaganda.

00:15:57.000 They're not delivered sort of just bipartisan information where it's driven off of how much interest was there in this or anything like that.

00:16:04.000 You know, probably with your show, they've messed with the algorithms to bring down your numbers.

00:16:08.000 I've seen it.

00:16:09.000 I've actually seen before on these social media websites them taking away impressions from one of your tweets or Facebook posts and they're removing them.

00:16:18.000 This is something they're doing on a constant basis to undermine our reach and the perception because perception matters so much.

00:16:25.000 They want the perception around conservative ideas to be a negative one.

00:16:29.000 And this is something they were not on top of in 2016.

00:16:32.000 And it's a huge part of why Trump won.

00:16:34.000 And they recognize that.

00:16:35.000 They recognize that we had the numbers.

00:16:37.000 We were getting the impressions.

00:16:39.000 We were having the most popular ideas.

00:16:41.000 And so that's why they don't want to debate ideas.

00:16:43.000 They know that if people are exposed to both ideas, they're going to go with our idea set most of the time.

00:16:50.000 And so the only way to solve that is to never expose them to it.

00:16:53.000 That's why they're rigging the algorithms against us.

00:16:56.000 But just look at the power they had to delete the president of the United States from social media and get away with it.

00:17:02.000 You know, and then the most frustrating point for me is I recently did a small business town hall where I talked to small business owners in Williamson County, Tennessee.

00:17:11.000 And these people all are upset about Amazon.

00:17:14.000 Most of their businesses have been crushed by Amazon.

00:17:17.000 In America, we used to be the party of trust busting in the Republican Party.

00:17:21.000 We should be going so viciously after Amazon that it makes people's heads spin in Silicon Valley because what they have done to small business in America is criminal.

00:17:30.000 These people have lost their livelihoods because Amazon intentionally ran a system that was modeled to lose money and gain market share.

00:17:39.000 Now they have a wide enough market share.

00:17:42.000 They've driven people out of business.

00:17:43.000 Now they can raise the prices and go for insane profit.

00:17:46.000 It's why if you invest in Amazon, you know, in the stock market, you'll just, it's gain after gain after gain because everybody knows that this is the model and that's why they didn't pay tax for so long.

00:17:55.000 They lost money on purpose to kill small business in America.

00:17:59.000 So we as Republicans need to get on board and go after these companies.

00:18:03.000 They need to be broken up and they need to be broken up yesterday.

00:18:06.000 And we also need representatives who understand the technology.

00:18:09.000 One of the most frustrating things for me is watching these hearings.

00:18:12.000 And there's a lot of people who look like they need help, you know, like magnifying their phone in the first place to send a text message, let alone understanding an algorithm or AI or automation or what's coming in the future.

00:18:23.000 We need people who understand those things and are going to be ahead of those things so that conservative policies have something to deliver, that we're able to actually sell an idea instead of play defense because we've played defense for too long.

00:18:35.000 So you're speaking my language and you're a phenomenal cultural critic, but now you want to be a congressman.

00:18:41.000 So let's talk about that.

00:18:43.000 You're speaking my language with trust busting.

00:18:45.000 If you would have asked me that two or three years ago, I would have said, I don't know, free markets and all that.

00:18:51.000 I love free markets.

00:18:52.000 I think it's the best way to create wealth.

00:18:54.000 Entrepreneurship's a beautiful thing.

00:18:56.000 I think private property is essential.

00:18:57.000 Amazon's not a free market.

00:18:59.000 It's a labor arbitrage, U.S. taxpayer subsidized package delivery scheme using server farms to underwrite the, and I don't use this word lightly.

00:19:09.000 So trigger warning for the people that are listening, a raping of the American middle class.

00:19:14.000 Let me just say that. 0.83

00:19:15.000 And a better way to say it would be a complete destruction.

00:19:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:20.000 So let me read this to you, though.

00:19:22.000 Let me tell you what you're going to be up against because I think you're going to win.

00:19:25.000 And we're going to have a lot of people running for office this week and next week.

00:19:28.000 And all throughout the cycle, I want to use this platform that the Lord has blessed us with to be able to show people like you that are doing the right thing.

00:19:35.000 But let me tell you what you're going to be up against.

00:19:37.000 And it's not Democrats.

00:19:40.000 While the Democrats were passing the stimulus, what were Republicans doing?

00:19:44.000 And I quote: Republican leaders were pleased to introduce their own legislation, a renewed attempt at repealing the estate tax.

00:19:51.000 The legislation was unveiled on Thursday by John Kennedy and John Thune and 24 other Republican senators.

00:19:57.000 So while we have big tech destroying our country, small businesses that can't open, churches that can't open, Tucker Carlson being targeted by the Department of Defense, our borders are wide open.

00:20:07.000 Republicans' leadership, they want to make sure that the billionaire class, which again, God bless them for making their money, they want to make sure that they can pay less taxes to their kids.

00:20:19.000 Now, again, if you asked me, Charlie, do you want to get rid of the estate tax?

00:20:22.000 I'd shrug my shoulders.

00:20:23.000 Sure, I guess.

00:20:24.000 Yeah, fine.

00:20:25.000 This is their priority.

00:20:26.000 This is what they did a press conference around.

00:20:29.000 Floor is yours.

00:20:31.000 It's unbelievable.

00:20:32.000 It's absolutely unbelievable.

00:20:34.000 And if we want to lose, you want to lose again for another generation.

00:20:37.000 Keep doing stuff like this. 0.96

00:20:38.000 Keep doing stuff like this and you're going to turn kids and you're going to turn young people and minorities towards socialism. 0.82

00:20:43.000 So if you want to be a failure, keep doing things like this. 0.99

00:20:46.000 If you want to actually do something for the people and you want this party to survive in 25 years, you need to get off your butt. 0.98

00:20:52.000 You need to get a paper in front of you and write down real priorities. 0.95

00:20:55.000 Go meet with some people in the community and ask them what they're worried about.

00:20:58.000 They're worried about big tech.

00:20:59.000 They're worried about China.

00:21:00.000 They're worried about their jobs and our economy.

00:21:03.000 And you are doing nothing to solve the problems that are going on in our communities.

00:21:08.000 You know, nothing.

00:21:09.000 We've played defense and been Mr. Nice Guy forever.

00:21:12.000 I just watched a press conference from the border where a Republican said, this isn't a Democrat or Republican issue.

00:21:19.000 Stop this.

00:21:20.000 It is a Democrat issue.

00:21:22.000 The border is entirely owned by the Democrats.

00:21:24.000 They're the ones who want to defund the police.

00:21:26.000 They're the ones who want to abolish ICE.

00:21:27.000 They're the ones that are letting cartels bring in human trafficking and drugs all the time.

00:21:32.000 They're the ones that are allowing all of this.

00:21:34.000 They want open borders. 0.97

00:21:35.000 They promise to incentivize illegal immigrants and give them a path to citizenship and health care. 0.60

00:21:41.000 That wasn't us. 0.95

00:21:41.000 Okay. 0.95

00:21:42.000 So stop playing like your footsies with these Democrats who want to destroy us.

00:21:48.000 You need to get on the right track with your voters, number one, but you need to be a fighter. 0.90

00:21:54.000 We need lions, not liars and not lazy people.

00:21:57.000 If you're not prepared to be a lion and fight for these values and stick to your guns and be willing to be the vote that says no, then you should not be in Congress, period.

00:22:08.000 I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat.

00:22:10.000 You do not deserve to be there if you are not going to hold fast to your values and do the right thing for the people who put you there.

00:22:17.000 So then tell me how you plan to challenge these entrenched corporate interests.

00:22:23.000 Because when you get there, and I warn all incoming freshmen of this and I've seen it happen, they get in, they think they can change the system, and it turns out the Chamber of Commerce is running everything.

00:22:34.000 So, and again, I admit it that I'm not actually going to put the pressure on you to get anything done because DC is just basically a public relations stunt to move the Overton window to basically eventually be able to get big stuff done eventually.

00:22:45.000 But tell us the arguments you're going to make.

00:22:47.000 What are you going to run on?

00:22:49.000 Breaking up big tech, rebuilding the American family, paying people to have kids, restricting immigration. 0.79

00:22:54.000 What are you going to be running on?

00:22:56.000 Freedom, family, future. 0.72

00:22:58.000 We need to expand and protect freedoms.

00:23:00.000 We need to rebuild the American nuclear family and support it.

00:23:04.000 And we need to do that in every community.

00:23:06.000 And then we need to be prepared for the problems of the future.

00:23:09.000 We need to be able to know what's coming down the pipe in 20 years and be able to effectively go after these companies.

00:23:14.000 I'm sick of watching hearings backed by no action.

00:23:17.000 So at least my vote and my support of other candidates is going to go to people who are ready to act, not people who are going there to be a hack and vote for the corporate interests or whoever their top donor was.

00:23:26.000 I'm not taking big tech money, period.

00:23:28.000 I don't want their money.

00:23:29.000 I don't need their money.

00:23:31.000 I have enough people behind me to win on the people's vote.

00:23:34.000 I don't need them.

00:23:35.000 And more candidates need to have that state of mind.

00:23:38.000 But in terms of what I'm doing, you know, you touched on an important point.

00:23:41.000 DC really is a game, a PR stunt of working here.

00:23:45.000 That's all it is.

00:23:46.000 And we don't have enough people who understand effective messaging and optics in DC.

00:23:51.000 I'm a director.

00:23:52.000 So that's one of the tools that I have in, you know, my holster here is like, I get so frustrated watching some of the stuff that goes on in DC where the reactions and what you do and how you play offense could be done just so beautifully to sell what we believe in.

00:24:07.000 And every single time they fail, you know, and I'm sick of it.

00:24:11.000 So that's why I'm running because I want to change that.

00:24:13.000 I want us to have messaging that reflects our voters.

00:24:15.000 Right now, who defends our voters?

00:24:19.000 Almost none of our representatives actually defend our voters.

00:24:22.000 Exactly.

00:24:22.000 A couple do.

00:24:23.000 I mean, you're right.

00:24:24.000 The vast majority do not.

00:24:25.000 You're exactly a couple do.

00:24:26.000 Jim Jordan, a couple, but yeah. 0.93

00:24:29.000 When they get called racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, all there's no representatives that are messaging like that this is lunacy.

00:24:37.000 So that silence is tacit acceptance that this is the case.

00:24:41.000 Oh, yeah, we do have some.

00:24:42.000 That's not the case.

00:24:43.000 I haven't met one at any, I've done so many events, I've lost track and I haven't met one racist at these events that's like, oh, we need to do this policy to keep down, you know, nothing like that.

00:24:51.000 In fact, the vast majority of the people who are the most active have been minorities.

00:24:55.000 And that's another outreach we need to make as a Republican Party is school choice.

00:24:58.000 School choice is so important to the future of our party because when I go into these communities and unlike other Republicans, I'm not afraid to go into the communities.

00:25:07.000 I talk to them about school choice.

00:25:08.000 Your kids have been locked up for a year, given subpar education.

00:25:11.000 We spent over $17,000 per student in Baltimore.

00:25:15.000 And in their high schools, less than 10% at half of their high schools were literate in their senior year of high school.

00:25:21.000 There is no excuse for that.

00:25:22.000 It's school choice that will be the solution because we need competition in the education arena.

00:25:30.000 It's also how we're going to get the woke stuff out of our schools.

00:25:32.000 The woke stuff is there because there's nothing competing for the federal dollars behind it.

00:25:36.000 You know, so again, back to the freedom point, though, one of the worries about school choice for Republicans for a long time has been if religious schools take federal money, the federal government's going to try to get in their way and tell them what they can and can't do.

00:25:48.000 And so that's another thing I would put forward is a religious freedom bill.

00:25:51.000 And I would dare any Republican to vote against a religious freedom bill that would give all of our religious institutions the ability to accept federal dollars and never be told what they can do by the federal government.

00:26:02.000 And if there's a Republican in Congress who is willing to vote against that, we will make sure that they're never in Congress again because that's not something that's going to be very popular in a Republican district.

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00:27:22.000 I love what you're talking about here, and I appreciate you agreeing that DC is a PR stunt because what bothers me is when people say, I'm going to get all this legislation passed.

00:27:30.000 I'm like, you're going to get nothing passed.

00:27:32.000 Let me just be very clear.

00:27:33.000 Even if you're in the majority, all the corporate hawks are going to control the committees.

00:27:37.000 What you have to do, and I hate to say this, but the one person that has moved the Overton window is Alexander Decasio-Cortez.

00:27:46.000 And I don't even know if she knows she's done it.

00:27:48.000 And if she has, she's brilliant. 1.00

00:27:49.000 If not, she's a fool. 0.99

00:27:50.000 I'm more on the full spectrum when I look at her. 1.00

00:27:53.000 But the point is that she has moved the entire national conversation on environment, on energy, on police.

00:27:59.000 And it's because she knows that DC and Congress is one big PR stunt in the 21st century.

00:28:06.000 And so the Democrats are completely uninterested in ever trying to pass a piece of legislation with a Republican vote.

00:28:14.000 They just don't care.

00:28:15.000 And Republicans, the same.

00:28:17.000 Therefore, it's basically: if you're in the majority, then you have to make sure that the biggest ideas get preference and you get passed through.

00:28:23.000 If you're in the minority, then you just have to message your ideas, get back in the majority.

00:28:27.000 Do I like this?

00:28:28.000 No.

00:28:28.000 It's the air of American politics that, quite honestly, mirrors the fractured society that we live in.

00:28:33.000 It's actually exactly the same sort of body politic represents that.

00:28:38.000 And the good news, Robbie, is that I actually think that the UNA party, which has controlled DC for the last 30 or 40 years of open borders, bad trade deals, social liberalism, pro-China, has actually that more than anything else is under attack right now.

00:28:54.000 I really do.

00:28:55.000 And so talk to me about, you mentioned you're not going to take big tech money.

00:28:59.000 I would encourage you, just think about this.

00:29:02.000 Don't take any PAC money if you can.

00:29:04.000 PAC money is very, I know it's tough for a new person.

00:29:07.000 I would make that recommendation.

00:29:09.000 Matt Gates did it.

00:29:10.000 It's hard, but AOC, Elon Omar, and others don't as well.

00:29:13.000 And you will win over so many voters if you can say, I don't take corporate money because that's how the corporations give money.

00:29:18.000 What's your that's awesome to hear that you won't take corporate money.

00:29:22.000 I love hearing that.

00:29:24.000 And so tell us, tell us what your thoughts on campaign finance reform are because this is something that I actually am more open-minded to than almost any conservative.

00:29:33.000 Because you want to know why things don't get done?

00:29:35.000 It's because when the Chamber of Commerce calls, you get this ridiculous estate tax thing instead of actual solutions for middle America.

00:29:43.000 Yeah, you know, personally, I would love to see us get to a place where corporate dollars can't play a role in campaigns anymore.

00:29:50.000 Good, I think right there with you.

00:29:52.000 It's perverted our system.

00:29:53.000 And honestly, I think one of the other problems we have is so much out of state money flowing into in-state races.

00:30:00.000 And I think that's been an issue.

00:30:02.000 So we have to look at: is there a way that we can do this where we're not hamstringing campaigns, but we're keeping all this outside money out of it?

00:30:11.000 Because look at Georgia.

00:30:11.000 If Georgia had none of these dollars flowing from Hollywood, they wouldn't have won the race.

00:30:17.000 All of that money is what you could say flip this along with other people who were stupidly telling people not to vote. 0.79

00:30:23.000 But, you know, that stuff, though, it made a big difference having all that money from Hollywood.

00:30:28.000 So we have to look at that and say, is this really in the best interest of the constituents in that district that they're going to represent or in that state that they're going to represent to have their race predicated off the dollars of people in Hollywood who don't know the concerns of people who live in rural Georgia?

00:30:44.000 And my answer to that is, I don't think it's okay.

00:30:47.000 I think that in Hollywood, they have very different concerns than we do in Tennessee.

00:30:51.000 And I don't want my race decided by dollars from Hollywood.

00:30:54.000 I just don't think that's right for the constituents here.

00:30:56.000 So I would love to see us get back to more of like a localist approach where you really run your race in your district, you know, and obviously do national media and stuff like that because you have to use that, you know, sort of sledgehammer to move the Overton window.

00:31:10.000 But on the flip side of that, you need to be in your district more.

00:31:13.000 You know, I think that's something that has perverted politics as a whole as well.

00:31:16.000 As people are addicted to the DC bubble, they know almost, you know, nothing about what's going on in their actual district.

00:31:21.000 And that's, that's wrong.

00:31:22.000 That's not how this was intended to work.

00:31:25.000 I completely and totally agree.

00:31:27.000 And the only long-term way that we're going to fix this is people that have spark and charisma like you.

00:31:33.000 And I'm actually really optimistic, but it comes with a caveat.

00:31:37.000 I'm optimistic because I watched CPAC and you gave a great speech and I saw that I don't, CPAC didn't tell me what to say before I spoke.

00:31:46.000 And I'm guessing they didn't tell you what to say.

00:31:48.000 And that's a compliment to Matt Schlapp.

00:31:50.000 Same at Turning Point USA at our Student Action Summit.

00:31:52.000 But why am I bringing that up?

00:31:53.000 Because almost everyone that spoke at CPAC was articulating a very similar worldview and doctrine that was totally different than the Mitt Romney corporate raider agenda of 2012.

00:32:06.000 So you kind of had this invisible hand almost working its way over the Republican Party, where now we look around like, hey, let's end the corporate oligarchy.

00:32:15.000 Let's have strong families, pastors that aren't going to go to prison for opening their church.

00:32:20.000 You're not going to take my guns.

00:32:22.000 I'm going to say whatever I want to say whenever I want to say it.

00:32:24.000 Like that was kind of the through line, right?

00:32:27.000 And so I'm really optimistic because I believe this in my core, that Trump and his ideas, the MAGA doctrine, are 65 to 70% winning ideas.

00:32:38.000 Putting our country first, caring about your communities, trying to reduce crime, not trying to cater to the woke industrial complex.

00:32:46.000 So I actually think if we do our job, we just don't win a little.

00:32:50.000 We win big and decisively and landslide permanent victories.

00:32:53.000 But, and here's the question for you, the biggest obstacle to that is that woke industrial complex.

00:33:00.000 I did not come up with that.

00:33:01.000 Some guy in Tucker Carlson said that two months ago and I totally stole it.

00:33:04.000 I don't remember his name.

00:33:05.000 Nice guy.

00:33:06.000 So how are you going to go up against the woke industrial complex?

00:33:09.000 Because if we defeat them, we win forever.

00:33:11.000 If we don't, they are going to rule in a dark era of America.

00:33:16.000 Well, you know, it's another reason why I'm running actually, because I see how they're able to use a lot of the woke stuff against our party and the people who are elected.

00:33:23.000 Well, I'm Latino.

00:33:24.000 You can't call me racist.

00:33:25.000 Those are the rules.

00:33:26.000 No, they will.

00:33:27.000 They will.

00:33:29.000 But those are the rules. 1.00

00:33:30.000 So I have a good defense to be able to slam them down on every time that they do this and make them look foolish. 0.98

00:33:35.000 You know, it's kind of like David Webb. 0.98

00:33:37.000 Did you ever hear that thing where the CNN person?

00:33:39.000 Oh, no, it's one of the greatest pieces of anything ever in the history of the civilization.

00:33:44.000 It's phenomenal.

00:33:45.000 So to be able to tear them apart on these things and be like, look, like I understand all the stuff that you guys are talking about.

00:33:51.000 That's another problem is a lot of the people on our side, they don't understand this.

00:33:54.000 They're too old to get into like the minutiae of what this actually means and what these people are talking about.

00:33:59.000 I understand it.

00:34:00.000 So like you, and you do a brilliant job of this, I can explain how broken these ideas are that when you just add a couple of things to the mix, it all falls down and comes crashing down.

00:34:11.000 You just have to be able to show them how that's done.

00:34:14.000 And, you know, I'm going to be really honest, we're terrible at messaging.

00:34:18.000 And so that's why AOC, she is, she has gravitas. 0.99

00:34:22.000 She has pools. 1.00

00:34:23.000 She's changing the way that people think about these things. 0.99

00:34:25.000 It's because she is doing innovative new things.

00:34:28.000 We don't have a member of Congress going on Twitch to do gaming with 18 to 25 year old voters that you can transform into activists.

00:34:36.000 We're not doing that, you know, and that is our own fault.

00:34:38.000 And we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

00:34:40.000 So if we want our ideas to survive, we need people like me there who can be the antidote to her poison because what she's doing is a Marxist poison and it's it's infecting our entire country.

00:34:51.000 So we need people like me and you there to be able to be the antidote.

00:34:55.000 Totally.

00:34:56.000 And you're right.

00:34:57.000 AOC is pushing a Marxist poison.

00:35:00.000 And the problem though is that that's not the only threat.

00:35:03.000 The point, and this is the one thing conservatives, we need to get a little bit more precise about.

00:35:09.000 Yeah, totally.

00:35:10.000 And you agree at this and you've said it in a different way, which is there's a corporate oligarchy that is currently running our country.

00:35:19.000 And they're going to be in power one way or the other.

00:35:23.000 There's just too much incumbent advantage.

00:35:25.000 There's the way the system works.

00:35:27.000 And Cortez is a threat. 1.00

00:35:30.000 And they really don't like her because she won't play ball with the corporate oligarchy.

00:35:34.000 And while it's very dangerous working with leftists and all that, I believe, though, that there are issues, campaign finance reform, going after big tech, where some of that energy on the Bernie Sanders wing of the party can be very helpful.

00:35:48.000 But the danger is: look, as soon as they start building support, their long-term solution is the eradication of private property.

00:35:55.000 Like it absolutely is.

00:35:57.000 And so I'm not trying to say, oh, we could all, you know, sing some John Lennon song in the meadow and we're all going to get along together.

00:36:02.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:36:03.000 What I am saying, though, is that of public opinion, we're basically looking at the two most popular viewpoints of the world are this. 0.94

00:36:10.000 On one side, you have one side that says America's bitter, awful, terrible, colonialist, misogynistic, racist, burn it all down, giving my free check in my bank account. 0.93

00:36:20.000 I never want to work again and give me a lot of weed. 0.98

00:36:23.000 And the other side is like, no, America's a wonderful place.

00:36:26.000 We've been given this gift.

00:36:27.000 This is not a colony.

00:36:28.000 This is our home.

00:36:30.000 We need to protect our home. 0.97

00:36:31.000 We need to restrict immigration and we need to be very positive and better spokespeople of this country. 0.99

00:36:37.000 And we believe in markets, but if markets all of a sudden stop serving the people or the country, then we're going to make specific policy changes to that. 0.99

00:36:44.000 That's it.

00:36:45.000 And like in the middle is this kind of like, oh, I want to go become a lobbyist for Raytheon.

00:36:49.000 Like, no, that war should have been ended 10 years ago.

00:36:52.000 And so you represent this very new and exciting.

00:36:55.000 And we have some other voices that are coming on our podcast later this week, JD Vance, amongst others, where it's just the one thing that boils it down is we love this.

00:37:04.000 This is our home.

00:37:06.000 And we're willing to do whatever is politically necessary to preserve it for our families, for our future generations, and for the welfare of everyone that we love and care about to also, of course, honor the history beforehand.

00:37:18.000 Do you agree with that assessment?

00:37:21.000 A thousand percent.

00:37:22.000 We need people who are willing to lose everything to protect this country.

00:37:26.000 And I, you know, like people like me, I willingly set my career on fire.

00:37:29.000 I knew what I was doing when I came out and endorsed Trump.

00:37:31.000 It's, you need to have that energy.

00:37:33.000 You have to love this country so much.

00:37:35.000 Like, look, I would not be alive if it weren't for this country.

00:37:38.000 I wouldn't be here.

00:37:39.000 This country and this allowed my mom to come here and for me to be born on these shores.

00:37:45.000 That's the, that's an American story.

00:37:47.000 Like, you don't, that doesn't happen anywhere else.

00:37:50.000 So I have this debt to pay to America that I will give anything to this country so that that survives for my kids, your kids, our grandkids, because when America falls, freedom falls.

00:38:04.000 So to your point about being more specific, this is actually a criticism my own wife. 0.99

00:38:09.000 She hammers in all the time. 0.99

00:38:10.000 It's like, be specific about everything.

00:38:12.000 People are sick of politicians giving these like, oh, this is, we're going to, we're going to organize.

00:38:18.000 We're going to do this.

00:38:19.000 She's like, be specific.

00:38:20.000 Tell people exactly what you're going to do and do it every single time.

00:38:24.000 Don't overpromise, under deliver.

00:38:27.000 You promise something and over deliver every time or at least try to.

00:38:30.000 And we've lost that in American politics.

00:38:33.000 So I think I, just like you, I'm so excited about this next crop of people who are popping up because we all have this like lion spirit that we want to put the Democrats on the run.

00:38:45.000 And yeah, sure, if we can find ways to work with the part of their party that I would call like the leaning into populism, left, left-wing populism part of their party, if we can find things to agree on, then we should be using the optics of trying to work together against them if they're not going to do it.

00:39:01.000 We should be weaponizing that.

00:39:02.000 Like, oh, I thought you guys were for the people.

00:39:04.000 You're not willing to do this just because you don't like us.

00:39:06.000 We should be weaponizing that and showing them to be the people who are not willing to do anything.

00:39:10.000 You know, so we have to use well, and one of the arguments conservatives say is like, well, we don't, we don't have the power.

00:39:17.000 People voted for you.

00:39:19.000 You didn't take power by some military coup.

00:39:22.000 You were voted into office as the consent of the governed.

00:39:24.000 You were sent to DC to go push back against the Amazon corporate oligarchy.

00:39:29.000 That's why people voted for you, or at least that's why they thought they were voting for you.

00:39:34.000 And just saying that I'm going to vote down gun-grabbing bills is not enough.

00:39:39.000 We have to be a positive, forward-thinking, specific agenda.

00:39:43.000 Okay, Robbie, the one piece of feedback I have, I couldn't find your website to send to people to support your run for Congress.

00:39:50.000 So what is it?

00:39:51.000 How do people get behind what you're doing?

00:39:54.000 Thank you so much.

00:39:55.000 Yeah, freedomforever.us.

00:39:57.000 And the official like candidacy website will be out in a few weeks with, you know, some endorsements and stuff like that.

00:40:02.000 So, but for now, you go to freedomforever.us, sign up to be a part of the team, to, you know, volunteer.

00:40:08.000 You can do it from any state.

00:40:10.000 And we're also going to help other candidates who don't have as large of a national profile so that they can phone bank and be able to do things like that and use those same tools.

00:40:17.000 So if you want to win, that's a good place to do it.

00:40:20.000 And I'm sure TPUSA is probably going to do similar stuff to activate as many people as we possibly can to door knock, do new things within technology, people.

00:40:31.000 You know, we can't do the same old things that we've always done.

00:40:34.000 There's a new crop of voters who communicate in a very different way that we need to reach out to.

00:40:38.000 So we're going to have as many of those tools as we possibly can delivered to help people like us to be able to win.

00:40:44.000 Because until our ideology completely takes over the party, we're not going to see the change we want to see.

00:40:52.000 And I'm just being perfectly honest.

00:40:54.000 So if we want to see it reflected, we have to do the work.

00:40:57.000 We have to be able to work as hard or harder than any other wing of any party, including our own.

00:41:03.000 And so if you care about it, you know, watching Charlie's show is not enough.

00:41:07.000 You know, watching his show gives you tools and it gives you messaging, you know, sort of insight because you do fantastic messaging and it gives you sort of intellectual prowess on why our ideas are better.

00:41:19.000 But you need to get in your community because what happens locally is going to define what happens in our country right now.

00:41:24.000 That's why George Soros is investing millions of dollars in local DA races because he understands that all politics is local.

00:41:32.000 So if you don't like your local GOP because they're still Romney-esque, don't complain about it.

00:41:37.000 Go there, join the local GOP and get a position there and take it over.

00:41:42.000 Take it over with people who think like you.

00:41:44.000 And we'll see a whole lot of change in this country if that's the case.

00:41:47.000 And school boards is another thing. 0.71

00:41:49.000 You look in red counties.

00:41:50.000 If you doubt what I'm talking about, look in your red counties and look who's on the school board.

00:41:54.000 And most of them, there's Democrats on the school board.

00:41:56.000 And it's not because they had great ideas.

00:41:58.000 It's because no Republican ran against them.

00:42:00.000 That's right.

00:42:00.000 And so I would encourage you to run as a slate with other candidates.

00:42:03.000 Our political vehicle, Turning Point Action, is going to be in touch with you.

00:42:08.000 And I have some ideas for you because I want to see a slate of great candidates, people like you.

00:42:14.000 Madison Cawthorne has been wonderful and he's young and he's getting better and he's just phenomenal.

00:42:18.000 He's a dear friend of mine.

00:42:20.000 And I want that kind of energy, that spark, that forward thinking, that positivity.

00:42:24.000 And you know what?

00:42:25.000 We could use a Martin Scorsese in Congress because it's all just Hollywood for ugly people is what they call Washington, D.C.

00:42:32.000 So it's about time that we embrace that.

00:42:34.000 I'm not calling you ugly, Robbie.

00:42:35.000 Don't worry.

00:42:36.000 But okay, so you have to send us your link when it's out.

00:42:40.000 My support is behind you because we need fighters.

00:42:44.000 We need people that understand the issues.

00:42:47.000 And I got to give you credit.

00:42:48.000 You know, I heard you were running.

00:42:50.000 We have you on here and you didn't do any of the typical BS talking point stuff that I have to do these interviews.

00:42:55.000 Okay, yes.

00:42:57.000 Okay, great.

00:42:57.000 I'm going to expand opportunity.

00:42:59.000 Like, come on, like, let's get into the weeds of really why we're losing our freedoms.

00:43:03.000 And you did just that.

00:43:04.000 So you deserve credit for that.

00:43:05.000 So thank you, Robbie, for joining.

00:43:07.000 Hope to see you in Nashville.

00:43:08.000 You're coming soon.

00:43:09.000 So hope to see you.

00:43:10.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:43:11.000 Everyone should check it out.

00:43:12.000 tpusa.com slash genfree will be in nashville all right robbie thanks so much talk to you soon thanks Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:43:22.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:43:25.000 If you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.

00:43:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:43:30.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 17, 2021

The Frontlines of the Culture War with Robby Starbuck

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