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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:12.000 It is March 3rd.

00:01:14.000 Welcome, Blake.

00:01:15.000 Howdy.

00:01:16.000 So I have been publicly calling for the administration to sell this war more fully, to give us a more comprehensive explanation of why, why do we strike?

00:01:28.000 Why do we strike now against Iran?

00:01:31.000 Blake, you had been doing the same.

00:01:32.000 You'd been noting the same.

00:01:34.000 I got a bunch of calls from reporters yesterday asking, you know, do I feel like the admin's done a sufficient job?

00:01:41.000 Well, guess what?

00:01:43.000 You do not have to be necessarily in favor of what's going on in Iran to admit that yesterday they added a lot more detail to the sales pitch.

00:01:52.000 And I think that's good.

00:01:54.000 They should be forced to explain kinetic use of U.S. military forces in the Middle East, absolutely, and to explain the why we deserve that.

00:02:04.000 So we're going to go through this, and we're going to have Sean Davis on from the Federalists specifically on the quote from Rubio that seemed to really cause a bunch of headlines yesterday explaining he kind of had a three-part answer.

00:02:21.000 And in one of those, it seemed to suggest that we got involved because Israel was going to act.

00:02:26.000 And if Israel acted, they were going to shoot us anyway. 0.88

00:02:28.000 So we might as well preemptively attack Iran. 0.95

00:02:30.000 So we'll get into that, but there's more layers than just that clip.

00:02:35.000 Now, by the way, Trump has just responded.

00:02:37.000 He's doing a bylap with the Chancellor of Germany currently.

00:02:41.000 And we're going to also later in the hour break down the difference between France, Germany, Spain, and the UK.

00:02:48.000 UK.

00:02:49.000 The UK.

00:02:50.000 The UK.

00:02:52.000 So anyways, here we go.

00:02:53.000 Let's start with Steve Witkoff.

00:02:55.000 Remember now, Steve Witkoff was negotiating alongside Jared Kushner as we were hoping for a diplomatic solution to this Iranian issue.

00:03:05.000 And Steve Witkoff dropped an absolute bombshell last night on Sean Hannity's show, 395.

00:03:11.000 In that first meeting, both the Iranian negotiators said to us directly, with no shame, that they controlled 460 kilograms of 60%, and they're aware that that could make 11 nuclear bombs, and that was the beginning of their negotiating stance.

00:03:32.000 So they were proud of it.

00:03:35.000 They were proud that they had evaded all sorts of oversight protocols to get to a place where they could deliver 11 nuclear bombs. 0.80

00:03:43.000 All right.

00:03:43.000 So 11 nuclear bombs, instantly, Blake, your mind went to weapons of mass destruction.

00:03:49.000 Now, that's a strong claim.

00:03:49.000 Exactly.

00:03:51.000 If it's true, that's a very strong point in favor of the administration's position, which is they're just clearly, endlessly going to pursue this very dangerous thing.

00:04:00.000 But we have been around this sort of thing before.

00:04:05.000 We've seen this movie before, yes.

00:04:08.000 And it will be desirable.

00:04:11.000 It will be good if we can find a bunch of enriched uranium in the rubble of these facilities eventually.

00:04:16.000 Of course, we also don't want ground troops to go looking for it.

00:04:19.000 Yep.

00:04:20.000 Well, and listen, I'll explain why I think this is different.

00:04:23.000 And that is because this was direct witness, eyewitness.

00:04:27.000 This wasn't relying on intelligence or, you know, some ideologue that's trying to find intelligence where none exists in field.

00:04:36.000 This is apparently Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner sitting across the table from negotiators, and they bragged about it.

00:04:42.000 That's a little bit different.

00:04:43.000 Now, if that's proven to be false and that they were just lying to maybe strengthen their negotiating position, that's also telling.

00:04:51.000 But it doesn't mean that he's lying, right?

00:04:53.000 It doesn't mean that Steve Witkoff is lying here.

00:04:55.000 And it's an important data point.

00:04:57.000 So I, you know, listen, I've seen Matt Walsh's arguments that, hey, if the Fordo strikes were so successful, why did we need to go in again?

00:05:05.000 And I disagree with only that point.

00:05:08.000 I agree with a lot of what Walsh was saying in that tweet.

00:05:12.000 But here's the deal.

00:05:14.000 A dog backed in the corner is more likely to bite.

00:05:16.000 They realized that their time was ticking, right?

00:05:20.000 That, you know, President Trump had this line saying this was the last best chance to do this.

00:05:26.000 Okay.

00:05:26.000 So, and that seems to basically be in sync with what Marco Rubio then said, right?

00:05:33.000 So Marco Rubio comes to the podium and says, I don't know why there's all this confusion about this.

00:05:37.000 You know, I think we've made the case.

00:05:39.000 Well, I didn't think they'd made the case, but I like that he was addressing it.

00:05:42.000 So kudos to him.

00:05:43.000 Let's start with reason number one, 420.

00:05:46.000 The United States is conducting an operation to eliminate the threat of Iran's short-range ballistic missiles and the threat posed by their Navy, particularly to naval assets. 0.80

00:05:56.000 That is what it is focused on doing right now, and it's doing quite successfully.

00:05:59.000 I'll leave it to the Pentagon and the Department of War to discuss the tactics behind that and the progress that's being made.

00:06:05.000 That is the clear objective of this mission.

00:06:07.000 All right, so he says the objective is to take out the ballistic missiles and the naval threat.

00:06:14.000 Okay, when we talk about the Strait of Hormuz, this all becomes very clear.

00:06:18.000 About 20% of the world's energy flows through the Strait of Hormuz.

00:06:22.000 About 14% to 15% of all trade goes through the Strait of Hormuz.

00:06:27.000 So he continues.

00:06:28.000 Reason number two, 421.

00:06:31.000 It was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States. 0.53

00:06:39.000 The orders had been delegated down to the field commanders.

00:06:43.000 It was automatic, and in fact, it bear to be true because, in fact, within an hour of the initial attack on the leadership compound, the missile forces in the south and in the north, for that matter, had already been activated to launch.

00:06:57.000 In fact, those had already been pre-positioned.

00:07:00.000 Okay, so he makes the point that we were going to get attacked no matter what happened automatically, that that had already been communicated down to the field commanders.

00:07:07.000 Okay, he continues, reason number three, 424.

00:07:10.000 The assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties.

00:07:19.000 And so the president made the very wise decision.

00:07:21.000 We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. 0.57

00:07:24.000 We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces.

00:07:27.000 And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed.

00:07:35.000 And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that and didn't act.

00:07:39.000 All right, so I know this is a little bit clip-heavy, but this was literally a four-part answer that he gave.

00:07:45.000 This is reason number four, I guess you would say.

00:07:48.000 It's really three reasons.

00:07:49.000 He said three, but it's really fourth reason.

00:07:52.000 And he talks about now this conventional weapon shield that would make them immune from any threats in the future.

00:07:59.000 That would become too dangerous to attack them.

00:08:02.000 432.

00:08:04.000 Why does Iran want that ballistic missile capability?

00:08:06.000 What they are trying to do and have been trying to do for a very long time is build a conventional weapons capability as a shield where they can hide behind.

00:08:15.000 Meaning, there would come a point where they have so many conventional missiles, so many drones, and it can inflict so much damage that no one can do anything about their nuclear program.

00:08:25.000 That is what they were trying to do, is put themselves in a place of immunity where the damage they could inflict on the region would be so high that no one can do anything about their nuclear program or their nuclear ambitions.

00:08:36.000 They are producing, by some estimates, over 100 of these missiles a month.

00:08:41.000 Compare that to the six or seven interceptors that can be built a month.

00:08:44.000 They can build 100 of these a month, not to mention the thousands of one-way attack drones that they also have.

00:08:49.000 They've been doing this for a very long time, and by the way, they've been doing it under sanction.

00:08:53.000 Well, we got a lot of clips there, and so we've heard that they had a giant pile of uranium and they were going to go for a bomb.

00:09:00.000 We've heard all these ballistic missiles, and we heard Israel was going to attack anyway, so we felt we had to join or there would be more casualties.

00:09:08.000 There's going to be a lot of discussion about that one for sure.

00:09:10.000 We want to hear from all of you.

00:09:12.000 Do you think the arguments have been strong or not?

00:09:15.000 We want to hear from the base about this.

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00:10:33.000 Joining us now is Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of the Federalist, very smart man.

00:10:40.000 Sean, welcome back to the show, my friend.

00:10:42.000 You and I were talking last night because you had this tweet.

00:10:46.000 I thought it was very, very smartly worded.

00:10:50.000 And you quoted kind of a famous quote that says, there's always two reasons that a man does something.

00:10:55.000 One, the reason he states out loud, and then the real reason.

00:10:59.000 And you were referring to Rubio's statement about why we went into war.

00:11:04.000 And he made this comment.

00:11:05.000 We already played it earlier.

00:11:08.000 He said that, you know, we knew Israel was going to strike. 0.95

00:11:12.000 And so we knew that America was going to hit when they did, America was going to get hit when they did that.

00:11:18.000 So we decided to preemptively attack.

00:11:21.000 Did Israel sort of, to use the parlance, dogwalk us into this war, or is there more to the story?

00:11:28.000 Yeah, well, it's interesting.

00:11:29.000 There seems to have been a bit of a walk back from what Rubio said, from what Johnson said after him.

00:11:35.000 I think from what Cotton said this morning, what we've read in some news reports, Trump in the Oval Office today said, no, no, no, if anyone got anyone into this war, it was us getting Israel into the war.

00:11:48.000 I don't know if I would personally say dog walk.

00:11:51.000 I get why some people might.

00:11:53.000 I think it is a complicated situation.

00:11:56.000 We have intertwining interests with Israel.

00:11:58.000 They're an ally and they're a friend.

00:12:00.000 We also at times have some contradictory interests.

00:12:04.000 There may be things they want to do that aren't great for us and vice versa.

00:12:08.000 But I actually think it's great for it to be out there that, hey, we're not out there acting on our own.

00:12:13.000 This was not all us, nor is Israel out there all acting on their own. 0.78

00:12:17.000 They had interests.

00:12:18.000 We had interest.

00:12:19.000 We were working together to do this.

00:12:21.000 It's been odd to me to see so many people recoil at that reality being laid out like, oh, that didn't happen or, oh, you're not allowed to say that.

00:12:32.000 Well, multiple people said that.

00:12:33.000 I think we should have an open conversation about how we're doing things in the Middle East and in whose interests they are.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, well, by the way, you mentioned this clip.

00:12:42.000 It just happened with the Chancellor of Germany.

00:12:45.000 So let's go ahead and play it.

00:12:46.000 437.

00:12:48.000 And if Israel forced your hand to launch these strikes against Iran, did anyone pull the United States into this war?

00:12:54.000 No, I might have forced their hand.

00:12:56.000 You see, we were having negotiations with these lunatics, and it was my opinion that they were going to attack first. 0.98

00:13:04.000 They were going to attack. 0.97

00:13:05.000 If we didn't do it, they were going to attack first.

00:13:09.000 I felt strongly about that.

00:13:10.000 And we have great negotiators, great people, people that do this very successfully and have done it all their lives very successfully.

00:13:18.000 And based on the way the negotiation was going, I think they were going to attack first.

00:13:24.000 And I didn't want that to happen.

00:13:26.000 So if anything, I might have forced Israel's hand. 0.81

00:13:30.000 But Israel was ready and we were ready.

00:13:32.000 And we've had a very, very powerful impact.

00:13:36.000 All right.

00:13:37.000 So I'm going to throw it to Blake now because I just put you on the spot, Sean.

00:13:40.000 Blake, what do you make of this?

00:13:42.000 Is it just a complex situation where both things can sort of be true at the same time?

00:13:47.000 Well, I don't know.

00:13:49.000 I think, truthfully, what I lean towards with what the president said is the president very much never wants to suggest he was influenced.

00:13:57.000 He's always the driver of events.

00:13:58.000 He's always the pilot of actions.

00:14:00.000 And in a lot of ways, he is.

00:14:01.000 He's such an active force throughout everything.

00:14:06.000 But at the same time, I do feel like Rubio didn't say that for no reason, but it comes within layers here because it could be that the president got on board with A, some sort of war with Iran months ago.

00:14:21.000 I mean, we were obviously building up towards it for ages, and then there was disagreement on specific timings, specific actions.

00:14:27.000 And, You know, I don't really want to hard commit on a specific answer because I suspect a lot of stuff will come out in the days and weeks, months, years to come.

00:14:38.000 This will be dissected over and over again.

00:14:41.000 And if you looked at the Iraq war when it happened, there was a lot of false stuff about the Iraq war when it unfolded, and we only really came to understand it years later.

00:14:50.000 Yeah, and I will say this: just because something is in, that something is good for Israel doesn't mean that's the reason why we did it.

00:14:57.000 So America could make a decision that our leaders determine is in our national security interest, and it might be good for Israel, but that might not be the driving force, right?

00:15:07.000 So both things could in theory be true at the same time.

00:15:11.000 I wanted to play this clip really quick, Sean, just because I, you know, this is an offensive action taken by Israel where they were meeting, gathering the religious leaders to pick a new Ayatollah, a new supreme leader.

00:15:26.000 And they apparently have not figured out Zoom yet.

00:15:30.000 So 394.

00:15:31.000 I'm told by a senior Israeli official that the Israelis just struck the Supreme Council gathering where the Iranians were meeting to choose a new supreme leader.

00:15:42.000 This is a significant development and again speaks to the Israeli intelligence about this war.

00:15:48.000 They just targeted the meeting in Tehran where what's left of the leadership was gathering to choose a new supreme leader.

00:15:57.000 I feel like they could have, you know, we're usually against mail voting.

00:16:01.000 I think I would have, if I were Iranian, I would have approved postal voting.

00:16:05.000 An absentee mail.

00:16:08.000 That meeting should have been an email.

00:16:09.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:10.000 I mean, but it goes to show the lengths at which Mossad has infiltrated the Iranian infrastructure inside the country.

00:16:18.000 They seem to know where these guys are at at all times.

00:16:21.000 There's that famous clip.

00:16:22.000 I don't know if you've seen it, Sean, where Ahmadinejad is talking about they, you know, they developed this task force to go after Mossad and root out Mossad within the Iranian ranks, only to find out that the head of that task force was a Mossad agent.

00:16:37.000 So, I mean, whoops.

00:16:38.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, you don't have to love this conflict.

00:16:42.000 You don't have to be in support of it.

00:16:44.000 But, you know, hat tip where it's due, credit where it's due, the talents are on full display here.

00:16:50.000 You just have to sort of acknowledge that much.

00:16:53.000 One thing I actually love about the Israelis and the Brits is unlike us, they kind of never abandon actual human intelligence.

00:17:01.000 We seem overly reliant on technology and surveillance, and they've just decided, you know, both the Brits and the Israelis, no, we're going to go in and have people as deep cover assets for decades.

00:17:12.000 There's something we could learn from that.

00:17:14.000 Yeah, I totally agree.

00:17:15.000 You made another really good point here, though, Sean.

00:17:18.000 You talked about when we built the Iraqi embassy, which has come under fire now.

00:17:23.000 It was back in 2004, 2005, spent all this money building up an embassy there.

00:17:29.000 And now it's, and we've done this throughout the region, and now it's a sitting duck that we have to defend.

00:17:34.000 What's your thinking here?

00:17:36.000 Why was that strategically a mistake?

00:17:38.000 How should we position ourselves in the Middle East?

00:17:41.000 Yeah, so a lot of our conversation about what's going on in Iran has been in the vacuum of what's happening there right now.

00:17:47.000 And obviously there are reasons for that.

00:17:48.000 You can't go back in time and reverse things you've already done.

00:17:52.000 But the question I ask is, why?

00:17:54.000 How were we so vulnerable to Iranian attack over there?

00:17:57.000 It's because we have bases in installations everywhere.

00:18:00.000 And as I wrote in that tweet, when I worked for Tom Coburn in 2005, one of the first amendments he made me do as a staffer was one defunding the Iraqi embassy, U.S. embassy in Iraq, which hadn't been built yet, something like a billion or a billion and a half dollars.

00:18:13.000 And he said, look, as soon as you do that, you are permanently in that country for 50 or 100 years.

00:18:18.000 You're guaranteeing that you're going to be vulnerable, that you're going to have bases, that we're going to be surrounded by people who hate us.

00:18:23.000 It's a similar issue in Libya, by the way, which I think is a good cautionary example.

00:18:29.000 Gaddafi disarmed in good faith under Bush, and then along in the next term comes Obama and Hillary decides to depose him.

00:18:37.000 They have him thrown out and murdered.

00:18:40.000 And then what happens a couple years later?

00:18:42.000 We end up, because of a secret CIA outpost in there, which was helping to traffic arms.

00:18:47.000 They claim it was to take them off the streets, but helping to traffic arms.

00:18:51.000 And then we end up seeing our ambassador, two Navy SEALs, and an intel expert from state getting killed.

00:18:56.000 It is a logical result when you are so far flung.

00:19:00.000 You have so many people in installations and places surrounded by people that hate us that you're going to be at risk.

00:19:05.000 And maybe we should be taking a look going forward rather than having to respond and go to war anytime someone over there threatens us.

00:19:13.000 Maybe we just shouldn't be in a position in a lot of these places where we're so easily threatened.

00:19:18.000 Final question, Sean.

00:19:20.000 There's been much made about our munition stockpiles.

00:19:22.000 Are you hearing anything?

00:19:24.000 President Trump said we could, you know, we have basically unlimited.

00:19:26.000 Is that what you're hearing?

00:19:29.000 Or is there a certain type of missile that we're more concerned about?

00:19:32.000 Well, yeah, this is actually one of the major reasons so many of us were opposed to what we were doing in Ukraine, giving all of our stockpiles to them without thinking, hey, what's going to happen to us if we actually need those for our national interests, not just Ukraine's.

00:19:48.000 I think we're starting to see some of that now.

00:19:50.000 I do worry about a lot of interceptor missiles, what I call defensive missiles, THADS, that are used to intercept and stop incoming Iranian missiles.

00:20:01.000 I worry that our allies over there, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, the Saudis, the Israelis, I worry about us running low on those a lot more than I worry about us running low on offensive munitions.

00:20:13.000 Yeah, and I actually asked, you know, how many of these missiles we can produce a month.

00:20:17.000 I was like, we need to ramp it up.

00:20:18.000 Apparently, we've signed a contract with Boeing recently to double the output, but our current 4?

00:20:25.000 No, our current output is like 60 a month.

00:20:28.000 I mean, that's max, max, max, like 60, 70 a month.

00:20:31.000 So, and they're flying, you know, $20,000 drones at us that we're taking out with a $2 million missile.

00:20:38.000 And, you know, the maths don't math, Sean Davis.

00:20:43.000 Excellent analysis, as always, Sean.

00:20:45.000 I must follow at the Federalist as well as on X. You're always throwing a wrench into the gears, and I love it because the contrary thinking is like super, super important right now.

00:20:57.000 Sean Davis, excellent work.

00:20:59.000 Thank you.

00:20:59.000 We'll see you soon.

00:21:00.000 Thank you, sir.

00:21:01.000 All right.

00:21:01.000 We asked for your emails, freedom at charliekirk.com, and you delivered Blake.

00:21:06.000 Yeah, let's get a few of them.

00:21:07.000 Christopher said, hello, Charlie Kirk Show.

00:21:10.000 The argument has not been made strongly, but Islamist Iran is the mortal enemy of the U.S. 1.00

00:21:15.000 It's too bad Reagan didn't destroy the Ayatollah's regime in the 1980s. 0.85

00:21:19.000 Now Trump has to clean up Jimmy Carter's giant mess.

00:21:23.000 How about Lindsay says, I appreciate Marco's response and explanation.

00:21:28.000 That was enough for me.

00:21:30.000 I trust President Trump.

00:21:33.000 Mark says, Charlie would not have questioned Trump.

00:21:37.000 You guys are off the rails.

00:21:40.000 I assure you, we are doing our best to communicate how we think Charlie would have felt through all this.

00:21:46.000 We, of course, can't know.

00:21:47.000 He's not with us.

00:21:48.000 Well, listen, I walked with Charlie alongside, so did you, Blake, about the way Charlie handled Operation Midnight Hammer, the lead up to that.

00:21:57.000 Privately, you know, he obviously expressed his, you know, his reticence.

00:22:03.000 And then, but he said, you know, honestly, he said privately and publicly to me, he said, listen, if Trump decides to go, we're going to have his back.

00:22:10.000 Okay?

00:22:11.000 I mean, Charlie worked his butt off probably harder than anybody else in this country besides Trump himself to get Trump elected.

00:22:17.000 And listen, I think that we are not questioning Trump's leadership here or his instincts.

00:22:24.000 But listen, anytime you go into a regime change situation, there are going to be unintended consequences. 0.98

00:22:30.000 And to act like there's not going to be unintended consequences, I think is foolish. 0.61

00:22:34.000 But we have his back.

00:22:35.000 And now that we're going, we're praying for success.

00:22:38.000 We're praying for the security and safety of our troops.

00:22:41.000 I woke up this morning at 2:30 because my daughter woke me up.

00:22:44.000 And I just literally started praying for our troops because I was feeling anxiety about it.

00:22:50.000 And I want them to be safe.

00:22:51.000 There's six dead servicemen.

00:22:52.000 So listen, we're trying to honor the spirit of Charlie, but obviously we don't know how he would have reacted.

00:22:59.000 Anybody tells you he would have, you know, he's not here right now.

00:23:03.000 Yeah.

00:23:03.000 We have some more.

00:23:06.000 Kathleen says, I strongly support President Trump's operation in Iran.

00:23:10.000 The ICBMs the Iranian regime was working on were intended for the U.S. 0.97

00:23:16.000 And President Trump is good at multitasking and working hard to help the American people.

00:23:19.000 He has already done a number of things to help the economy.

00:23:22.000 And she also apparently sent an email about possibly moving to South Dakota.

00:23:25.000 I'm going to have to read that one.

00:23:27.000 I'll get back to you on that one, Kathleen.

00:23:29.000 I am, of course, a big fan of that.

00:23:34.000 Several others.

00:23:35.000 I think the most common one is a lot of we trust President Trump, which is what we said is generally what Charlie's point of view would be, we think, which is he would have argued against this going up to it.

00:23:47.000 But if the president heard him and the president would listen to him, if the president listened to him and did it anyway, Charlie would give him the grace and trust to say, he knows things I don't.

00:23:56.000 He has a good record on these.

00:23:58.000 I think that's what his posture would be.

00:24:00.000 President Trump has had a good record on not getting us embroiled in forever wars, okay?

00:24:04.000 Got to give him a little leash, a little room to maneuver here.

00:24:08.000 He's proven himself to be a very adept operator on the world stage.

00:24:13.000 So here's what I want to get into now.

00:24:15.000 There's a couple different storylines.

00:24:17.000 There's the oil, how much China is relying on the oil.

00:24:20.000 Maybe we'll get to that in an hour or two if we have a segment.

00:24:22.000 But let's just go around the horn and get the European reaction to the Iranian strikes because they are varied and it's kind of surprising.

00:24:31.000 Honestly, I want to start with the honorary Europeans of Canada because that is the one I find the funniest. 0.99

00:24:37.000 We've had a lot of friction with last year.

00:24:40.000 Carney has definitely tried to turn himself into basically the foil, the foil of Trump, the avatar of being his critic.

00:24:48.000 Like he's talking about, oh, we've realigned.

00:24:50.000 Like we can't rely on these old alliances.

00:24:52.000 He's shifting towards China.

00:24:53.000 And then as soon as this broke out, he puts out a statement that's basically, we support America's operations.

00:24:58.000 Well, let's start with another one then, too.

00:25:00.000 German Chancellor was just in the White House of President Trump, 438.

00:25:04.000 We are on the same page in terms of getting this terrible regime in Tehran away.

00:25:13.000 And we will talk about the day after what will happen then if they are out.

00:25:19.000 Macron had some strong words.

00:25:21.000 439.

00:25:23.000 Our deterrent is both robust and efficient.

00:25:28.000 All those who would be bold enough to strike at France must be aware of the unbearable cost that it would take on them.

00:25:41.000 So he's talking tough.

00:25:42.000 Macron, the French, they always like to talk tough, and then we'll see how it really plays out. 1.00

00:25:47.000 But hey, broadly supportive.

00:25:51.000 Kirstarmer is on the list for Trump right now.

00:25:55.000 Here it is, 444.

00:25:58.000 Mr. Speaker, we all remember the mistakes of Iraq. 0.91

00:26:03.000 And we have learned those lessons.

00:26:07.000 Any UK actions must always have a lawful basis and a viable thought-through plan.

00:26:18.000 I say again, we were not involved in the initial strikes on Iran, and we will not join offensive action now.

00:26:27.000 And by the way, so Kier Starmer was not giving access to American bases or a UK basis for American strikes.

00:26:34.000 They have since reversed that decision, but it was with a lot of hemming and hawing and hand-wringing, and President Trump is not too happy about it.

00:26:44.000 440.

00:26:45.000 By the way, I'm not happy with the UK either.

00:26:49.000 That island that you read about, the lease, okay, you made it for whatever reason he made a lease of the island.

00:26:56.000 Somebody came and took it away from him.

00:26:58.000 And it's taken three, four days for us to work out where we can land.

00:27:04.000 It would have been much more convenient landing there as opposed to flying many extra hours.

00:27:08.000 So we are very surprised.

00:27:10.000 This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with.

00:27:16.000 He went on to repeat that, by the way.

00:27:18.000 But perhaps the most, I don't know, annoying NATO partner would be Spain.

00:27:26.000 Spain denies this 443.

00:27:28.000 Spain denies U.S. military use of its bases for Iran attack.

00:27:33.000 The leftist government in Madrid said the war against Iran violated both international law and the agreement between Spain and the United States for use of air bases.

00:27:41.000 Now, we actually have, like, I think two or three in Spain.

00:27:44.000 I know Rhoda's one. 1.00

00:27:46.000 These are really complex installations there in Spain.

00:27:50.000 So this is a big deal.

00:27:51.000 President Trump is now threatening to embargo all business that the U.S. does with Spain.

00:27:56.000 He's very angry.

00:27:57.000 He's very upset.

00:27:58.000 I will say, I had this thought at first.

00:28:00.000 He's known to admire President William McKinley, who, for those of you who don't remember high school, his U.S. history, fought the Spanish-American War to get Puerto Rico, Guam, the Philippines, and Cuba.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, well, and so what's interesting here is that Spain just, this is the same leftist government that just, I guess, legalized essentially a million.

00:28:22.000 They said it was going to be 500,000 immigrants.

00:28:25.000 It's going to be more like a million.

00:28:27.000 So welcome to the new Spain.

00:28:29.000 This leftist, you know, elections matter.

00:28:31.000 They have consequences.

00:28:32.000 Spain's about to find out.

00:28:34.000 So all of this is very, very interesting to see the varied responses.

00:28:39.000 I'm grateful, oddly enough, to the Chancellor of Germany for being very clear-minded, very firm on this.

00:28:47.000 And actually, also the Mark, what's it, Ruta of NATO has been very, very supportive.

00:28:57.000 So lots of good alliances forming, but a few that are more suspect.

00:29:02.000 We're going to keep our eyes on our alliances.

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00:30:16.000 We are joined on set by Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action.

00:30:21.000 We're going to be going in depth into Texas because tonight is the night, the big primary, and we have the man himself, Attorney General Ken Paxton, running for U.S. Senate in the great state of Texas.

00:30:33.000 Welcome back to the show, Mr. Attorney General.

00:30:36.000 It's a big day for you.

00:30:37.000 What are we seeing?

00:30:38.000 What are we thinking?

00:30:39.000 You know, so good to be back.

00:30:40.000 I can remember talking to Charlie about this over a year ago, and it's hard to believe that this day is actually here.

00:30:46.000 I think it's going to be a good day.

00:30:47.000 I think people have grown weary of a senator who has been claiming to be a Republican but hasn't accomplished anything for our state.

00:30:55.000 I've literally traveled this state since April the 8th.

00:30:58.000 I've asked every single person, whether it was one person or 3,000 people, can you name one great accomplishment of John Cornyn?

00:31:05.000 And even his supporters can't come up with an answer.

00:31:08.000 It means it's time for a change.

00:31:10.000 I think the voters are going to do it today.

00:31:11.000 Oh, Ken, Mr. Attorney General, this has been a David versus Goliath fight.

00:31:17.000 This is the most expensive race in Texas history, I think. 1.00

00:31:23.000 Primary race.

00:31:23.000 The primary race that's ever been spent.

00:31:25.000 I think U.S. history for a primary.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, it's totally insane the amount of money that's been spent by the establishment to target you.

00:31:35.000 And yet, every poll is showing you, every single poll is showing you, you know, not just a little bit ahead, not just competitive, but pretty significantly ahead.

00:31:45.000 You know, what does this say?

00:31:46.000 I mean, just speak a little bit to this about this fight because nobody really understands, I think, on the outside and across the country that, you know, when you actually tabulate all the money that the campaign that Cornyn spent, all the outside group money, it's probably close to $100 million that's been spent against you.

00:32:04.000 And yet, the people of Texas are still coming out, you know, big behind Paxton.

00:32:09.000 So, what has that fight been like?

00:32:12.000 And where do you go from here to help kind of unify the entire state of Texas and the rest of the country?

00:32:18.000 Yeah, so that kind of thing never happens again.

00:32:20.000 Yeah, it's pretty shocking.

00:32:22.000 I think he has spent close to $100 million.

00:32:24.000 We've spent around $3 million.

00:32:26.000 That's quite a disparity, even if you're bad at math.

00:32:29.000 That's a big number.

00:32:31.000 I think part of it is one of the things I looked at when I got in the race was Texas is not like a lot of states.

00:32:37.000 It's just so big.

00:32:38.000 And so getting name ID is not easy.

00:32:41.000 Even if you've done really good things, if you're a congressman in Texas, you just want a 38.

00:32:46.000 If you're a state senator, you're just one of 31.

00:32:48.000 If you're a house member, you're just one of 150.

00:32:50.000 So it's really difficult to take that next step against somebody that's been in public office for over 40 years.

00:32:56.000 So I looked at that.

00:32:58.000 When I tested it, my name ID back in February of last year was 90%.

00:33:02.000 John's was in the 70s.

00:33:03.000 So I knew even if he outspent me now, did I think he would outspend me 33 to 1?

00:33:09.000 But I felt like somebody with name ID had to run.

00:33:09.000 No.

00:33:13.000 And it wasn't going to be somebody from Congress.

00:33:16.000 It wasn't going to be somebody from the Texas legislature because they just don't have the name ID.

00:33:19.000 It's literally that simple.

00:33:21.000 You have to have the name ID.

00:33:22.000 And because I'm in office and I can keep working and keep talking about it, it's allowed me to stay fresh in the minds of voters despite the tremendous number of negative ads and the number of false ads that he's wrote about himself, claiming to be a MAGA conservative, pro-border, all that, you know, pro-border.

00:33:40.000 Well, all of it was false.

00:33:42.000 Yeah, Ken, I remember talking with you, and when this whole kind of race was gathering steam, you said to me, you said, watch, he's going to vote lockstep with the president.

00:33:54.000 All of a sudden, he's going to be Mr. MAGA general.

00:33:56.000 I mean, it was as soon as you announced you knew this was going to be kind of the pattern he was going to walk.

00:34:02.000 But here's what else is interesting: is that you are getting outspent 31.

00:34:09.000 You have ads on TV every day, right?

00:34:11.000 I mean, this is pretty clear.

00:34:13.000 I mean, it's multiple, multiple times a day, just a deluge of anti-Paxton media right now.

00:34:20.000 I've seen, I was watching Fox News on Sunday because of the efforts of the war, and I saw three ads in a row that were John Cornyn, one positive, two different negative ads on me.

00:34:33.000 And that was happening all day long.

00:34:35.000 So, you know, what's that like?

00:34:38.000 It's like, I mean, I think it almost wears people out.

00:34:42.000 It's too much.

00:34:43.000 I mean, he's doing more than getting a message out.

00:34:46.000 It's overkill.

00:34:47.000 And I think people have grown weary of it.

00:34:51.000 It's obviously it's helped close some of the gap because originally I was at 25 points ahead.

00:34:56.000 And because I haven't had the money to compete, it's closed some of the gap, but I don't think it's closed the gap to the degree that they expected it to because there's too many educated voters.

00:35:06.000 The people he called radicals two days ago, he called them radicals that are voting in the Republican primary.

00:35:12.000 Those are the people that actually know what's going on and they know what he's done.

00:35:16.000 Well, I have a go ahead, Tyler.

00:35:19.000 I was just going to say, I mean, this has all of the elements that we're walking into to be one of the greatest upsets in establishment history.

00:35:19.000 We brought you in.

00:35:29.000 And again, no one is more deserving of it than you.

00:35:32.000 That's actually fought on the side of conservatives.

00:35:35.000 You know, there's no question when people that know you and have done any investigative work know that you would be a far superior vote in the U.S. Senate than John Cornyn.

00:35:45.000 But, you know, we look at this and the lessons that come out of this, because everybody that I've seen talk about this goes, oh, well, you know, we might have to spend money to help Paxton win in a general.

00:36:00.000 And, you know, that is such a silly argument because you look at this $100 million.

00:36:04.000 A fraction of that $100 million is what it takes to win in general.

00:36:08.000 Yeah.

00:36:09.000 How much money was poured in from outside PAX and the NRSC here?

00:36:12.000 And so this looks at, this tells you everything.

00:36:15.000 This race is going to probably be the heart and soul.

00:36:18.000 Your race is the heart and soul of the future of the conservative movement.

00:36:22.000 I think this is probably next to Donald Trump shocking the world in 2016.

00:36:29.000 This is probably the second biggest shock maybe in the history of modern American politics.

00:36:35.000 Yeah.

00:36:35.000 And here I have two questions off the back of this point that Tyler's making for the Attorney General here.

00:36:40.000 Can you win without a runoff?

00:36:43.000 And question two, if you have to go to a runoff, does polling show how much of Wesley Hunt's vote you would accumulate?

00:36:50.000 So first of all, let me just say this winning, being a sitting of a senator, if you'll go back because of the way the campaign finance laws are set up, and I was limited to 7,000 a person and only half could be used in the primary, 3,500.

00:37:03.000 Think about how many people I had to get to just to do one ad in Texas, which is $3, $4, $5 million.

00:37:10.000 And yet, you look at incumbency, senatorial incumbency, you go back 40, 50 years, how many senators have lost?

00:37:17.000 You got Richard Luger in 2012 in a smaller state who was completely, you know, had gone left.

00:37:24.000 And then, second, you had Mike Lee winning in a convention state where you don't have to spend much money.

00:37:28.000 So you're right.

00:37:29.000 It does not happen very much.

00:37:31.000 As far as winning in a not having a runoff, I've looked at the numbers.

00:37:35.000 It's not impossible.

00:37:37.000 It's hard because what people don't realize, there's eight people in my race.

00:37:41.000 So everybody's, so I have to, I would tell people it's seven-on-one basketball and I got to outscore everybody and they're all trying to score and they're all playing defense too.

00:37:48.000 So it's not just that it's two other people.

00:37:52.000 There's seven other people that I have to outscore all of them.

00:37:57.000 But I've looked at the numbers and I've seen polls after early voting that suggest that I'm in the 40s, that Corinne's in the low 30s, that Wesley's in the teens with about 13% undecided.

00:38:08.000 So if the right number of undecided break my way and if the right if that trend continues through election day and the right number of people from Wesley, because he's lost a few points over the last couple of days, because Cornyn pounded him, and it's not impossible.

00:38:24.000 It's just challenging to get to 50% plus one with eight people.

00:38:27.000 Right.

00:38:28.000 And do we have any idea?

00:38:31.000 Well, how about we put it this way?

00:38:32.000 Where do people go?

00:38:33.000 What's the action item?

00:38:35.000 What do they need to do right now?

00:38:37.000 So right now, I'm just telling them, if you haven't voted, go vote.

00:38:39.000 We still have till 7 p.m. Central Time.

00:38:42.000 If family members haven't voted, go vote.

00:38:45.000 And then encourage all your friends to go vote.

00:38:47.000 It sounds like a small job.

00:38:49.000 I mean, it still may be a lot of hassle for you, but the reality is it literally could make the difference between having to go into a runoff and not having to go into a runoff.

00:38:57.000 And I always tell people from the beginning of time, you know, in order to change power, people used to have to fight with their hands.

00:39:03.000 Then they had to throw rocks and then arrows and then guns and bombs.

00:39:07.000 Today, all we have to do is show up to vote and get our friends to go vote.

00:39:10.000 It's a lot more, it's a lot easier than it's been ever.

00:39:13.000 And so we just need to go do it.

00:39:15.000 Well, don't believe the negative attacks.

00:39:17.000 Ken Paxton can win the general and win it handily and easily.

00:39:22.000 That's basically the attack against you, Ken.

00:39:25.000 It's pretty funny.

00:39:26.000 I've absorbed a lot of them.

00:39:27.000 We've got your back.

00:39:28.000 You're going to be a great next U.S. Senator from the state of Texas.

00:39:31.000 And so go with God today, win big, and hopefully avoid the runoff.

00:39:35.000 But if not, we got your back there too.

00:39:36.000 Well, thank you, Brown.

00:39:38.000 Thank you.

00:39:39.000 Okay, so Tyler, let's go around the horn in Texas.

00:39:42.000 What are we watching?

00:39:43.000 Let's lay out the following of Kim Paxton, how this matters.

00:39:47.000 Texas is at a crossroads that some states have entered into, which is, are you going more MAGA?

00:39:53.000 Are you going more conservative long term?

00:39:55.000 Or are you going to go establishment?

00:39:57.000 And the Ken Paxton race is really important because if Paxton is successful, which it looks like he should be, and they make him a U.S. Senator, Texas is going to the underlying Bush control, you know, control arm is basically annihilated.

00:40:13.000 Yeah.

00:40:14.000 And this is very similar to Arizona with McCain.

00:40:17.000 Arizona had to fight this big war, basically, and the McCain influence dissipated.

00:40:23.000 The Paxton race is really important because if Paxton loses, it gives a revitalization to the Bushwing. 0.94

00:40:29.000 This sets up all the rest of the races because there's so many other races that are happening in Texas today that are super, super critical.

00:40:36.000 Probably the second most important next to the Paxton race is Dan Crenshaw's district.

00:40:43.000 So the redistricting happened.

00:40:45.000 Districts didn't change too much in this district.

00:40:47.000 That was mostly a majority, all the same for Dan Crenshaw.

00:40:51.000 But a gentleman named Steve Toth, who's in the state legislature right now, who's really well liked, has been a leader on that front, decided, hey, I'm going to run against Dan Crenshaw, even though this seems like a near-impossible task.

00:41:06.000 He's really well liked, really well supported by the donor community that has had some real questions for Dan Crenshaw and the positions he's taken.

00:41:16.000 And polling is showing Steve Toth within the realm of possibility of being able to defeat Dan Crenshaw.

00:41:23.000 So if you're in, we're going to call you out because some people don't know their district.

00:41:26.000 If you're north of Houston, if you're in the woodlands, if you're in spring in Texas, it's centered around the woodlands.

00:41:31.000 So if you're anywhere near the woodlands in North Houston, your primary match is always matters.

00:41:39.000 Wherever you are in Texas, you have an opportunity to replace Dan Crenshaw with Steve Toth, who will be a Freedom Caucus-level, likely congressman, which is a big, huge change.

00:41:53.000 That's a huge change.

00:41:54.000 So between Paxton and Toth, those are the two races to keep an eye on in Texas today.

00:41:58.000 If those both go positively for both those gentlemen today, Texas has turned a corner that's heading a lot more conservatively than the Republican Party.

00:42:07.000 Texas went for Trump, I think, 13 or 14 points.

00:42:10.000 So it was a big win in Texas.

00:42:13.000 A lot of people were predicting like four points, five points, six points.

00:42:17.000 And it ends up going, you know, 14, almost 15 points.

00:42:21.000 And it's funny you bring up this number.

00:42:23.000 So the number to look for tonight for everyone, and when we're on the broadcast tonight, I'll be dipping out early, but we'll have some Texas people that are on the broadcast tonight because we're live streaming tonight on the Charlie Kirk channels about evaluating the returns.

00:42:37.000 If Paxton wins by five or more points against Cornyn, but still has to go to a runoff, but if it's five or more points, that spells doomsday for Cornyn.

00:42:48.000 They should stop spending all the money.

00:42:49.000 They've already spent $100 million on this man, and they haven't been able to get him within five points.

00:42:54.000 Now, if it's less than five points for Paxton, that's a problem because they're going to keep spending.

00:42:54.000 That's it.

00:42:59.000 Yeah, and that's a huge, huge pivot point, right?

00:43:03.000 So are the outside groups, the NRSC, because if you watch Fox News or anything, by the way, all the senators get on and they say, we need Cornyn, right?

00:43:11.000 And that makes sense.

00:43:12.000 It's their colleague and that sort of thing, but it's also NRSC money that's coming in, which could be spent on other races.

00:43:18.000 And SLF.

00:43:19.000 Yep.

00:43:20.000 The Senate leadership fund.

00:43:22.000 And so, you know, there's a couple of other important races that are happening.

00:43:26.000 John Bonk, who's running also a good conservative, 221.

00:43:33.000 Likely, he's going to be a really good representative in Texas.

00:43:39.000 Obviously, you have Congressman Brandon, he's a Brandon Gill type.

00:43:42.000 So Brandon Gill has endorsed him.

00:43:44.000 So if you like Congressman Brandon Gill, again, he's probably one of the most in-your-face, Freedom Caucus-esque Congressman.

00:43:54.000 John Bonk is one of those guys.

00:43:57.000 Another good guy that's running is Jace Yarbrough.

00:44:00.000 Jace is in a really tough primary.

00:44:03.000 Again, because Texas has this runoff role.

00:44:06.000 This is Congressional District 32.

00:44:08.000 Another similar young guy, great family, who's going to be an incredible representation of that.

00:44:16.000 A couple other statewides that are really important.

00:44:20.000 A couple other statewides that are really important.

00:44:22.000 You have Don Huffins.

00:44:25.000 That's running for comp troller.

00:44:26.000 Don Huffins, if you remember, Rand against Abbott a few years ago, he's been a great supporter of turning points for a long, long time.

00:44:35.000 He got pummeled by Abbott and actually had resources and money.

00:44:40.000 Got pummeled by Abbott, but stuck in there.

00:44:42.000 He was one of the best liberty-minded members of the legislature for many, many years.

00:44:48.000 He was kind of the face of the opposition to the establishment for a while.

00:44:51.000 He was big on abolishing property tax, if I remember.

00:44:54.000 Don has been the face of anti-establishment activity in Texas for the last 15, 20 years minimum.

00:45:02.000 His whole family has.

00:45:04.000 They've put all of their resources against the establishment at great cost to them.

00:45:10.000 And he's still in this.

00:45:11.000 He's in this thing.

00:45:12.000 He could win comptroller with over 50%.

00:45:15.000 I have bad news for you, Tyler.

00:45:16.000 Today's a great day for you to learn.

00:45:18.000 It's usually just pronounced controller, even though they throw that P in there for no reason.

00:45:21.000 Oh, it's Controller.

00:45:23.000 I don't know why. 0.99

00:45:24.000 What about Dumb? 0.97

00:45:25.000 What about the Chip Roy race? 0.99

00:45:26.000 I'll take it.

00:45:27.000 I'll take that.

00:45:28.000 What about Chip Roy?

00:45:29.000 You have Chip Roy.

00:45:30.000 Chip Roy is in, so you have this race right now.

00:45:34.000 And everybody's talking about the Attorney General's race.

00:45:37.000 There are three major players that you see in this race.

00:45:42.000 You have Chip Roy, and then you have the gentleman that was endorsed by Ken Paxton.

00:45:47.000 And then you have, his name's Aaron Reitz, and then you have another guy named Mays Middleton.

00:45:54.000 Mays has been described, he's going out and saying a lot of pro-Trump things, but he's been described as being friendly with the Trump associate.

00:46:04.000 I'm sorry, not Trump, with the Bush, the bad Bush side of the state of Texas.

00:46:10.000 And, you know, Chip has been on the Freedom Caucus, supported by the Freedom Fund, all of that.

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00:46:22.000 All the polling is showing that this race is coming down to between Maze and Chip Roy.

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00:46:42.000 We like Chip a lot more because of his background with the Freedom Caucus.

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00:48:09.000 Ana Paulina Luna joins us now.

00:48:12.000 Congresswoman, welcome back to the show.

00:48:14.000 You had a very interesting, let's just say, time with the Clintons.

00:48:20.000 You were up in New York and you got to be in on that meeting.

00:48:25.000 We now have video clips from that.

00:48:27.000 Why don't you just take us inside the room and give us a sense of what it was like?

00:48:31.000 I mean, that's quite the pair you were discussing.

00:48:36.000 Yeah, it's not every day that you get to depose a former secretary and president.

00:48:41.000 But, you know, ultimately, our sole objective for this is getting justice for the victims.

00:48:47.000 And I think a lot of people, to include ourselves, have been rightfully frustrated because at a certain point, we were promised names.

00:48:53.000 We never received those names.

00:48:54.000 And then also there's this aspect of what we found out, what I really helped to uncover is that a lot of the co-conspirators that were given these plea deals were actually some of the women.

00:49:04.000 So these women engaged in what I would say is human rights abuses. 1.00

00:49:09.000 They were responsible for trafficking.

00:49:10.000 And then, also, too, you have a lot of the doctors and physicians that were essentially let off that kind of knew about what was happening.

00:49:17.000 So, there's clearly more to be investigated in this, but then also the aspect of, okay, well, how much did you know Epstein's circle of influence know about what was happening?

00:49:25.000 We saw that the Clintons, specifically with the secretary, you know, had a lot of connections there via the Clinton Foundation.

00:49:33.000 Although, according to her deposition and according to a lot of the statements made by President Clinton, she was somewhat insulated in, I guess, her direct contact.

00:49:42.000 But the president, President Bill Clinton specifically, did seem to acknowledge and admit that it was his relationship with Jeffrey to include Galeene that actually kind of is a reason why he should be brought in to testify.

00:49:56.000 And so it was very evident that Secretary Clinton did not want to be there.

00:50:01.000 She, as you saw in some of that footage, lost her temper a few times and was not so, I don't want to say nice, but just not as cooperative and they were very difficult to get in.

00:50:16.000 And then you saw kind of when President Clinton came in the next day, it was definitely kind of a shift.

00:50:21.000 He was a lot more, I guess, you know, a lot more forward in his answering.

00:50:27.000 And it did not appear that he was trying to hide the ball.

00:50:30.000 But as you also saw, there was a lot of questioning that, you know, even with the secretary, when we were posing questions, a lot of their communication between husband and wife is considered protected communication privilege.

00:50:42.000 So there's a lot that we could not have answered as well.

00:50:46.000 Well, and you know, it was just, I had to, I have to say, it was just a bit interesting.

00:50:51.000 I thought it was really interesting.

00:50:52.000 I think a lot of people had this experience watching these clips because you see President Clinton kind of still jovial.

00:51:00.000 You could still see all the elements that made him a really talented politician, but he's getting cast about the most salacious details about, you know, it felt very, it felt very 90s.

00:51:10.000 And as the joke was made, like, of course, we're bombing a country in the Middle East right now.

00:51:14.000 Of course, Bill Clinton is testifying.

00:51:16.000 Yeah.

00:51:16.000 Meanwhile, Hillary's like slamming tables like it's Benghazi all over again.

00:51:20.000 I mean, it was very interesting.

00:51:22.000 I, okay, I have to play this one because I just found it funny.

00:51:25.000 And I want to get your reaction for being in the room.

00:51:28.000 This had to make you at least somewhat uncomfortable, APL. 384.

00:51:33.000 I never saw anybody do anything wrong.

00:51:37.000 I thought they were flight attendants.

00:51:40.000 Do flight attendants typically wear tank tops and jeans?

00:51:47.000 They don't all wear uniforms on private planes.

00:51:51.000 Okay.

00:51:52.000 So there was a lot of this: like, who are you getting?

00:51:56.000 Why are you getting massages from young women? 0.99

00:51:58.000 Did you find that strange?

00:51:59.000 He's, you know, and then at one point, somebody shows him a picture of him with some young woman, and the lawyer tries to take it out of his hands, and he grabs it back.

00:52:09.000 And he's got this smirk on his face.

00:52:11.000 I'm going, dude, you're getting deposed by Congress right now.

00:52:15.000 You know, I don't know.

00:52:17.000 I just, I have to wonder what was that like to see a former sitting U.S. president being asked these types of questions.

00:52:24.000 Did it make you uncomfortable?

00:52:26.000 I mean, look, I straight up asked him about his trip to Africa, where we know that there was, you know, one of the victims on that flight.

00:52:34.000 And I should have asked him about Virginia Guffray's commentary about him going to the island.

00:52:41.000 And I, you know, when you're sitting there and obviously no one is above the law, but also to, you know, part of what I have, and it's become very evident and apparent.

00:52:50.000 And I even confronted both Secretary Clinton and President Clinton with the facts that Jeffrey Epstein was an intel asset.

00:53:01.000 I asked specifically with Secretary Clinton, which she said, you know, it's quite possible he was running a honeypot operation, which I think is very, very evident at this point.

00:53:10.000 But then, you know, kind of referencing, well, which countries would have a specific interest in, you know, figuring out what President Clinton was doing, right?

00:53:17.000 And I think just kind of the whole aspect of, you know, he, once I presented him with the alias and the, and the other identity that Epstein had, you know, he kind of saw that and you could tell that he was shocked.

00:53:29.000 But then also, too, it goes into kind of like an even more weirder space, I guess, because at one point, President Clinton was asked about, did he think that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

00:53:40.000 And he was like, well, I think he finally got caught.

00:53:42.000 I really don't know.

00:53:43.000 He was uncomfortable.

00:53:44.000 The attorneys didn't really want him to answer.

00:53:46.000 And then on the flip side, Secretary Clinton, when she was confronted with a similar question, she had said something along the lines of Jeffrey Epstein died in mysterious circumstances or mysteriously had died.

00:53:56.000 So I think the fact is, is that, you know, they see the writing on the wall.

00:54:01.000 He was obviously a very bad guy.

00:54:03.000 They also know that there's this aspect of Intel operation happening.

00:54:06.000 They would be prime targets.

00:54:08.000 You know, Bill Clinton, you can't tell me that, you know, he probably didn't fully know what was going on in the sense that, you know, those were kind of some younger girls, et cetera.

00:54:22.000 But also, too, I mean, at a certain point, did he, do we have any evidence right now that he did anything illegal?

00:54:28.000 And the answer is no, according to the deposition and according to, you know, at least the evidence that we have, that's not there.

00:54:37.000 But what was interesting is that the entire time that we were in that room, the Democrats were trying to, you know, basically come up with reasons to bring in and depose President Trump.

00:54:47.000 And at a certain point, President Clinton actually did exonerate President Trump, which they did not like and they freaked out about.

00:54:54.000 And then shortly thereafter, I actually also had asked President Trump about a woman who had made a false claim that he had sex tapes out there with some of the victims.

00:55:04.000 And I asked him, in so many words, would you want oversight to call in a victim like that or an alleged victim that had been proven to be lying?

00:55:12.000 And he said, no, you shouldn't be doing that.

00:55:14.000 And the reason I asked that specifically is because there has also been this attempt with the files to call in President Trump using false claims from people that were not credible witnesses or credible victims.

00:55:24.000 And so I think, you know, it was good that he came in.

00:55:28.000 Do I think that we're ever going to be able to get names directly from the Clintons or were we able to get names directly from the Clintons regarding people that were potentially involved in the trafficking?

00:55:40.000 No.

00:55:40.000 However, when I showed the secretary emails that were some of the most egregious emails that you guys probably all saw and read on the internet, and she read them, and then I said, Do you think that this person should be called?

00:55:51.000 And she said, yes.

00:55:52.000 Well, that individual who was writing those emails, that was a woman. 1.00

00:55:56.000 And so I am going to be pushing.

00:55:58.000 And I've already talked to Chairman Comer.

00:56:00.000 And I think there is support for bringing in the co-conspirators that were given lesser plea deals because they should have to answer for that in addition to some of the other individuals that knew and potentially were even treating these victims because they did not report the trafficking.

00:56:13.000 Yeah, that falls in line with a lot of Blake's thinking, actually.

00:56:18.000 You know, women were accomplices in this. 1.00

00:56:21.000 And that's a big part of how Jeffrey Epstein got these young women to be surrounding him and these other rich guys is they used Virginia Guffray as an example of that.

00:56:31.000 She lured in underage women, told them to wear makeup and act and lie about their age. 1.00

00:56:37.000 Totally.

00:56:39.000 But I think that there's also a big difference, though, between someone that's coaxed into doing something as a minor versus someone that continues to do it for years as an adult and is getting paid to do it.

00:56:50.000 And they are no longer co-conspirator, you know, victims.

00:56:52.000 They would then become co-conspirators and traffickers.

00:56:55.000 And so I think that that's a big difference.

00:56:57.000 And, you know, a lot of people for a long time, I think, don't really realize that we were promised names.

00:57:03.000 They said, when we interviewed some of the victims, they said, we will give you names.

00:57:07.000 And we have not yet received those names.

00:57:09.000 And so that's why I guess it's kind of frustrating.

00:57:11.000 And I understand that people have been failed by the justice system previously, but we are still trying to at least ensure that people, if they were trafficking, let's bring them in.

00:57:20.000 And we want to at least expose this.

00:57:22.000 And then it's up to the Department of Justice on whether or not they're going to prosecute.

00:57:26.000 But the fact is, is that this has become so politicized with the attempts to try to basically make it look like President Trump was trafficking people, which we know he's been exonerated by the victims, by multiple AGs, by literally President Bill Clinton.

00:57:39.000 And so it seems like some of it's being lost in translation.

00:57:42.000 But yeah, it was definitely, definitely quite the experience.

00:57:45.000 I did not expect Hillary Clinton to lose her cool like that. 1.00

00:57:48.000 And I was shocked.

00:57:49.000 There was a couple of times that she was kind of, you know, getting irritated being there.

00:57:54.000 Total 180 out from President Bill Clinton.

00:57:57.000 Well, APL, we've got Alliance of Sovereign Nations coming up.

00:58:00.000 Can you just quick elevator pitch on what it is, turning points working with you on it?

00:58:05.000 Tell us about it.

00:58:06.000 Yes, Turning Point Action has worked with us to stand up a first ever of its kind event focusing on nation.

00:58:13.000 I don't want to say nation building, but really ensuring that countries, specifically European nations, that have been so long told that, you know, we need censorship and you need open borders and you need to focus on green energy, really removing the backbone of these countries.

00:58:29.000 This is going to completely flip that on its head.

00:58:31.000 It's a more populist movement focusing on fundamental things like free speech, energy independence, i.e., nuclear energy, and strong immigration policy.

00:58:40.000 And so we have 75 countries from around the world that are in attendance and we're very happy for it.

00:58:44.000 It's become all the rage, all of our inquiries right now.

00:58:50.000 It's everywhere.

00:58:50.000 Yeah.

00:58:52.000 So many press want to be inside this room and we're being very much sticklers on who we let in because we want them to derail what is sure to be a really important event.

00:59:03.000 So congrats on putting that together.

00:59:06.000 It's becoming a really big deal.

00:59:08.000 And we'll have more to report on that soon.

00:59:10.000 Tyler's been helping you with that and a few others.

00:59:12.000 So Ana Palina Luna, thank you for giving us the update on the Clinton deposition.

00:59:19.000 Got much, much more to uncover there.

00:59:21.000 I'm sure you're going to keep on it.

00:59:22.000 Thanks for joining us today.

00:59:23.000 Thanks, guys.

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01:00:32.000 All right.

01:00:33.000 So a lot of you were asking for more clips, and I wanted to, but Congressman Ana Palina Luna was going through her experience in the room.

01:00:42.000 So let's, you hadn't even seen this clip.

01:00:44.000 This is Bill Clinton essentially, from his perspective at least, exonerating President Trump.

01:00:48.000 385.

01:00:50.000 The president never, this is 20-something years ago, never said anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything unproper with regard to Epstein either.

01:01:03.000 He just didn't.

01:01:05.000 That's the truth.

01:01:09.000 As I said earlier, the only conversation I have with President Trump about this was in the early 2000s.

01:01:20.000 And I have no information that he did anything wrong.

01:01:27.000 No information that President Trump did anything wrong.

01:01:29.000 I mean, by the way, the timing of that, I think, is telling.

01:01:31.000 Early 2000s, this is when they were still friends.

01:01:35.000 President Clinton was much younger than, much sooner, just leaving office.

01:01:40.000 And President Trump was not president yet.

01:01:42.000 He was considered a Democrat donor.

01:01:43.000 He was, you know, I think at Chelsea Clinton's wedding, right?

01:01:47.000 Anyway, so they had interactions.

01:01:49.000 So I think that's very telling.

01:01:50.000 This was a clip that I took note of, and I thought it was pretty comical.

01:01:55.000 And maybe I'm wrong for thinking that.

01:01:57.000 I don't know.

01:01:57.000 But a lot of people online certainly noticed it.

01:02:00.000 $4.57.

01:02:07.000 That's it.

01:02:19.000 Okay.

01:02:25.000 Mr. President, we have...

01:02:27.000 So I thought there would be more audio cues there.

01:02:30.000 He's literally laughing.

01:02:31.000 Dead laughing, but we don't really know what precisely he's laughing at. 0.97

01:02:35.000 Yeah, it was flipping through old Epstein photos of him smiling and nodding with, I mean, I find that he's still a dirty old man.

01:02:42.000 I find it unlikely that what was going on there is he was suddenly tipping his hand like, oh yeah, I remember abusing that person.

01:02:49.000 No, I think he's sort of laughing at the spectacle of the entire ordeal.

01:02:54.000 But a lot of people found it humorous online because those were apparently pictures.

01:02:58.000 I mean, many people think that he's laughing because, you know, what is out there, what he's looking at is far less egregious than what is not out there.

01:03:11.000 Yeah, it could be like a very real possibility to Is what we've seen over and over is there's a lot of salacious allegations that have come from they'll release a photo next to someone who's has their face blurred out and they're implying that this was someone they abused, that someone who was underage, and they're neither of those things.

01:03:29.000 Of course, yeah.

01:03:30.000 And so he might look at this photo and be like, oh, that's a 28-year-old person that I interacted with or something like that.

01:03:37.000 Sure.

01:03:38.000 Yeah, I mean, Interacted's putting it very.

01:03:42.000 It might literally just be that.

01:03:43.000 These are just all of these are just photos that people took.

01:03:48.000 Like, they're not secret photos.

01:03:50.000 They're not blackmail photos as far as we know.

01:03:54.000 They just seem to be any photo you might take like with your phone today if you're at a party.

01:03:59.000 I mean, certainly, Blake, a sitting president that leaves office and immediately is flying down with imagery that is being produced and put in front of him.

01:04:11.000 That's that's, that is not exactly, especially when we rewind back to the 90s, like I get today's 90s thing to me.

01:04:21.000 I was only 10 when the 90s well, you know what's okay, I don't think we know what.

01:04:25.000 No one, not even no one, was okay with any of this, like nobody has ever.

01:04:31.000 Like the fact that, like society has has been degraded into something where it's like oh, this isn't that big of a deal, and I get it totally jaded, everyone's jaded now whatever okay, at the time, at the time period, if those images would have come out, it would have been.

01:04:47.000 It would have been, it would have been, it would have been the most important thing on the news for three years.

01:04:52.000 Well, kind of like when Clinton had his uh intern, uh run in with Monica Lewinsky.

01:04:58.000 So this is funny.

01:04:59.000 I don't have the clip here and I just remembered it so I didn't call for it, but they were asking about, why do you hang out with all these young women? 0.99

01:05:05.000 He's like well I, that's wrong, I don't hang out with, I don't typically hang out with younger women and all this stuff, and they go. 0.99

01:05:10.000 Would you consider an intern young?

01:05:12.000 And he goes.

01:05:13.000 You can see his whole face is like well, you got me there, we're gonna live that one.

01:05:17.000 Then he goes.

01:05:17.000 Yes, interns are young.

01:05:19.000 Um, let me just play one from Hillary, because she's just got a vibe here. 1.00

01:05:23.000 386, when you saw photos of your husband in a hot tub, laying on a beach and getting massaged by other women and you knew that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in some of these trips and these things, did it concern you at all?

01:05:34.000 I'm here not to offer my opinions.

01:05:36.000 I'm here to answer specific questions To the best of my ability.

01:05:39.000 When you saw your husband in these photos of the young woman being massaged, what went through your mind?

01:05:43.000 I am not going to speculate.

01:05:45.000 I don't think that's speculation.

01:05:47.000 I think it's just that's a direct question: how did you feel about that?

01:05:51.000 I mean, legally, she's a smart gal. 1.00

01:05:54.000 She did the right thing, right?

01:05:55.000 Because they're trying to get salacious details and et cetera, et cetera.

01:06:00.000 But, anyways, yeah, she ended up, there was a whole photo leak situation with, I believe, Lauren Boebert, Congresswoman Lauren Boebert out of Colorado, leaked a picture.

01:06:09.000 They found out that she leaked it during the hearing.

01:06:12.000 She slammed her fists on the table, and it was quite the moment.

01:06:19.000 I believe we just about have it loaded up here.

01:06:21.000 But it literally, all of us turned and looked at each other and were like, that was Benghazi.

01:06:27.000 That was a total Benghazi moment. 0.51

01:06:29.000 Hillary Clinton has not changed.

01:06:31.000 You can take the woman out of Washington, but you can't take the Washington out of the woman. 0.91

01:06:35.000 New York, wherever.

01:06:36.000 Something like that.

01:06:37.000 Something like that.

01:06:38.000 It's a scary cross between Washington and Arkansas, is what it is.

01:06:42.000 It's steeped in power for years.

01:06:44.000 Scary cross.

01:06:45.000 All right, 458.

01:06:46.000 Excuse me, can I interrupt?

01:06:48.000 I have another photos that are being released of the secretary as she is testifying from inside this room.

01:06:55.000 Can you please advise me as to whether or not that's permissible and consistent with the rules, particularly given that we have asked for a public hearing?

01:07:03.000 If there are photos that are being released of the secretary as she is testifying, can you please explain how that is?

01:07:08.000 I'm done with this.

01:07:09.000 If you guys are doing that, I am done.

01:07:11.000 You can hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home.

01:07:14.000 This is just typical behavior.

01:07:17.000 Oh, for heaven.

01:07:18.000 So I would like to understand how that's permissible before the hearing was.

01:07:23.000 It doesn't matter.

01:07:23.000 We all are abiding by the same rules.

01:07:26.000 I will take that down.

01:07:27.000 Yeah.

01:07:28.000 I would like to take a break at this moment.

01:07:30.000 I'd like to have a dottish for now.

01:07:32.000 And on that note, we are done.

01:07:35.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

01:07:37.000 Oh, Hillary Clinton. 0.99

01:07:37.000 I don't want to feel bad for Hillary Clinton at that point there. 0.99

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 03, 2026

The Fury Continues + The Clintons Before Congress + Primary Day in Texas

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