The Charlie Kirk Show - The Gamification of America's Elections with Mollie Hemingway and Alina Habba

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00:01:11.000 There's a lot to continue to dive into here with what's happening in Arizona and across the country.

00:01:18.000 Joining us now is the great Molly Hemingway.

00:01:20.000 She wrote the great book, Rigged.

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00:01:23.000 Molly, welcome back to the program.

00:01:25.000 It's great to be here with you.

00:01:27.000 So, Molly, a lot of people are scratching their head.

00:01:29.000 And, you know, we did a whole hour about the failures of Maricopa County and the machines going down and all that.

00:01:34.000 But just more broadly and generally across the country, can you help explain why the data was so off?

00:01:41.000 Not just the polling data, but people had early voting forecasts and kind of predictions.

00:01:48.000 It was all off.

00:01:49.000 How was that possible, Molly?

00:01:51.000 So the first thing I think it's important to remember is that in some sense, it wasn't off.

00:01:57.000 And that's why everybody feels so weird about what happened.

00:02:00.000 And what I mean by that is Republicans did win the generic ballot.

00:02:05.000 They did have millions more voters.

00:02:08.000 We do know that three out of four people in the country are upset with the direction of the country, that President Biden has low approval ratings, that, you know, objectively speaking, the economy is bad.

00:02:19.000 We have no border.

00:02:21.000 You know, crime is skyrocketing.

00:02:22.000 These are all real things that contribute to the confusion people feel about the end result.

00:02:28.000 And I think that while there are, you know, easily you could, usually when people name a thing that they think went wrong, they're right.

00:02:35.000 I think one thing that people really need to understand at a very high level, and I do appreciate that you get this, is that Democrats really targeted their ballot harvesting operations in key races, you know, 20, 25, 30 key house races.

00:02:51.000 They turned on their machine in those places.

00:02:55.000 And I don't mean like a physical machine.

00:02:56.000 I mean a getting the ballots into the boxes kind of machine and maybe like five Senate seats.

00:03:03.000 They didn't do all over the country.

00:03:05.000 They just knew where they were vulnerable and they focused there.

00:03:08.000 And I think that actually explains why New York saw such big gains.

00:03:12.000 You had, what, five seats flipped to the Republican?

00:03:15.000 Because Democrats really didn't turn on their machine there.

00:03:19.000 Or you look at a state like Florida, which like New York had a 17-point swing in Republicans' favor.

00:03:25.000 I think the big thing there, in addition to good candidates and slightly better election integrity laws, the Republicans have a machine in Florida that banks ballots.

00:03:36.000 They do have, they did have a good handle on how many early votes they had.

00:03:39.000 And so if Republicans want to win elections ever again, they A, should continue their efforts to return to an election day type situation.

00:03:51.000 That's just better for the country.

00:03:53.000 But until and unless they achieve that, they absolutely need to play the game according to the rules that are there, which means banking ballots early so that you don't lose the whole race two weeks before election day.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, so I guess, Molly, what we're looking at is, I mean, and it's taking us a little while to realize this, Democrats designed it.

00:04:12.000 It's the world that Mark Elias designed and we're just living in it, is that the idea of politics now is less about debates, Katie Hobbs than debate, less about candidate equality, Fetterman, just look at it. 0.56

00:04:24.000 I mean, that's ridiculous.

00:04:25.000 Less about leadership, Joe Biden stayed in his basement. 0.62

00:04:28.000 And now it's kind of this 40 to 45 day game.

00:04:33.000 It's a game now where it's basically, can you be on television relentlessly to at least get to some equilibrium with independence?

00:04:42.000 Can you have a machine to go find as many pieces of paper as possible?

00:04:46.000 I think Democrats are breaking the law when they do this, but it's awfully clandestine.

00:04:50.000 And we have evidence of that time and time again.

00:04:52.000 But let's pretend they're not.

00:04:54.000 They still have a mass ballot harvesting operation in states you can do that.

00:04:58.000 And so do Republicans and conservatives now need to realize that politics has fundamentally changed.

00:05:04.000 It really doesn't matter if you have a good message anymore.

00:05:06.000 It doesn't matter if you're able to excite people.

00:05:07.000 Your thoughts, Molly?

00:05:09.000 This is why I say the changes are bad for the country.

00:05:12.000 When you had an election day model, it was about building momentum, building cohesion, persuading people, building excitement, because whether you wanted to vote or not was actually one of the ways that democracy works.

00:05:26.000 And with this ballot harvesting operation that we've moved to, you might not even know there's an election.

00:05:32.000 You might not know who's running.

00:05:33.000 You might not know the issues, but you get enough ballot chasers put on your behind.

00:05:39.000 You're going to get your ballot in, even if you're one of the least propensity, the least informed voters out there.

00:05:45.000 It's not healthy, but it's just, again, the way it is.

00:05:48.000 Well, look, and so Democrats seek ballots, Republicans seek voters.

00:05:52.000 And there's a huge difference, right?

00:05:54.000 I mean, we go seek modeling and like, well, who's going to be able to persuade to our message?

00:05:58.000 Where they just go all in and they have drop boxes on college campuses and they're able to run up the score in ways that are probably illegal, by the way, Molly.

00:06:07.000 For example, at Arizona State University, entire sororities were bringing in boxes of ballots, of which a state it's illegal to ballot harvest.

00:06:13.000 And they say, well, we are all housemates.

00:06:16.000 I guarantee not every single person is living in that sorority house. 1.00

00:06:18.000 There's not 70 people living in that house.

00:06:21.000 Some people are probably in dorms and they're in apartments.

00:06:22.000 It doesn't matter.

00:06:23.000 No one enforces the law.

00:06:24.000 And so, Molly, here's the problem, though.

00:06:26.000 The more I talk about this, our audience is not on board.

00:06:29.000 They say, I do not want to participate in drop boxes.

00:06:32.000 I don't want to participate in early voting.

00:06:34.000 Is there going to have to be some form of a behavioral and attitudinal change if we're ever serious about winning again?

00:06:42.000 Well, I don't, I actually agree with people who say that these are bad things.

00:06:46.000 So it's very difficult for me too.

00:06:47.000 I think it's horrible for the country that we have moved to unsupervised balloting.

00:06:52.000 It's so ripe for coercion, illegality, and other problems.

00:06:57.000 It's not a good thing.

00:06:58.000 The challenge is that if you don't play according to these new rules that Democrats have spent, frankly, decades putting into place, but were able to accomplish thanks to COVID hysteria.

00:07:10.000 If you don't play according to those rules, you'll never have power ever again.

00:07:15.000 So in some of these states, like, how do you win the state legislature to reform and strengthen election integrity if you can't win the election?

00:07:24.000 What are you going to do?

00:07:25.000 So the thing is, like a lot of people oppose it, and it is true that Republicans are overwhelmingly less likely to vote early, but there are a lot of groups that are fine with it.

00:07:36.000 In fact, most people don't share our opinion that it's bad for the country.

00:07:42.000 All the election integrity stuff polls extremely well, except for unsupervised balloting, which is the big one, where people actually tend to support mass unsupervised balloting.

00:07:53.000 So I think it's a tricky message, but it's just one that needs to get through.

00:07:57.000 You would need a ground game.

00:07:58.000 And this is something that Republican leadership could provide guidance on.

00:08:02.000 You need to be banking a certain number of ballots per day.

00:08:05.000 You need to be targeting who you're getting those ballots from.

00:08:08.000 And you just need.

00:08:11.000 If you care about, if you think that you're helping the people by having power, you need to get power and you need to play according to the rules as the law has them now.

00:08:20.000 And what's nuts is that, you know, Democrats were behind their projections in Arizona.

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:25.000 And inexplicably, there was this, not inexplicably, 100, 150,000 ballot drop that happened in the course of 48 hours.

00:08:33.000 It just, it happened at a left field.

00:08:35.000 I wonder if that isn't from something else that happened this election, which is that Joe Biden had federal agencies spend taxpayer money to get involved in the ballot operation.

00:08:47.000 And one of the ways that they most emphasized this was in exploiting federal work study programs on college campuses.

00:08:57.000 And they matched it with the, you know, since fought by courts promise to pay off student debt through fear-mongering about ending unborn human lives.

00:09:10.000 Like all these things kind of worked together.

00:09:12.000 They had orders that went out to college campuses to be receptive to this federal work study scheme.

00:09:18.000 I bet that had a lot to do with Arizona, which has such a large campus population.

00:09:23.000 Yep.

00:09:24.000 And then you have also the, as you mentioned, the federal agencies even on top of that and military bases and all sorts of different types of things.

00:09:31.000 And look, the FOIA requests, when the FOIAs were actually done, it showed a bunch of blacked out pages as well regarding what exactly happened with the federal agencies becoming basically get out the vote operations.

00:09:43.000 Despite all of that, Republicans won the generic ballot and there were a lot of victories to celebrate.

00:09:49.000 But again, 2020 was the first chapter.

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00:11:20.000 So, Molly, I think one of the other kind of struggles people have is maybe we set our expectations too high.

00:11:27.000 There is a debate on the right of the role that Dobbs played in this election.

00:11:32.000 I do believe that in certain states, especially in the state races, interestingly enough, it was actually an anchor, especially in Michigan and in Wisconsin.

00:11:42.000 In a year that otherwise should have been a very good year, we lost by five, six, or seven points when we had really good candidates.

00:11:48.000 What are your thoughts, Molly?

00:11:49.000 It's very confusing to decipher it.

00:11:51.000 I mean, you take very strong pro-life governors like Ron DeSantis, Bill Lee, Brian Kemp, Greg Abbott, who signed effectively, or, you know, who's in a state that essentially has an abortion ban, they all won their reelection.

00:12:09.000 Incumbent pro-abortion supportive governors also did well.

00:12:15.000 I think there was clear failure on the part of the Republican Party to deal with that issue.

00:12:22.000 And it's criminal because they knew it was coming.

00:12:25.000 They knew they had the leak.

00:12:27.000 They knew it was likely to be overturned.

00:12:29.000 They should have had a plan in place.

00:12:31.000 And I saw that the people who support abortion spent $391 million on targeted messaging compared to $11 million for pro-lifers.

00:12:42.000 That's just inexcusable.

00:12:45.000 And you might not win the issue.

00:12:47.000 You know, it was a big change in abortion policy and one that many people had worked very hard for and had prayed for for a very long period of time.

00:12:55.000 You can certainly get it to a draw.

00:12:57.000 And instead, Republicans kind of did this ostrich head in the sand approach of showing that not only were they weak, but they were scared to talk about it.

00:13:07.000 In fact, the vast majority of Americans support at least some protections for unborn children.

00:13:13.000 They might not want to ban all abortion, but it's like two, three quarters of the country supports a second and third trimester ban.

00:13:21.000 And instead of saying that, Republicans were just terrified and you could see the terror in their eyes.

00:13:26.000 They didn't know how to talk about it.

00:13:28.000 And it really was once again, letting down their voters, letting down their base.

00:13:32.000 And it really is inexcusable.

00:13:34.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that in certain states, if there would have just been a clear messaging of, hey, we're pro-life.

00:13:41.000 We know the country has some nuance on it and we stand for heartbeat, heartbeat, heartbeat on the state level.

00:13:46.000 I think heartbeat is very popular.

00:13:47.000 I do.

00:13:48.000 The problem, Molly, and I could say this in Arizona, because we lost a very critical state Senate race, Nancy Bartow, who's a great American, they were running ads relentlessly that they want to, Republicans want to jail doctors.

00:14:00.000 And look, I'm 100% pro-life, but most people are not.

00:14:02.000 They don't, they believe in exceptions for rape and incest.

00:14:06.000 They do.

00:14:06.000 Most people do.

00:14:08.000 And they ran that relentlessly, relentlessly, Molly.

00:14:12.000 And I think that our candidates were just unable to be able to message or to kind of, you know, navigate past that, if you will.

00:14:22.000 Yeah, well, they, it is difficult when you've got, I mean, you could spend $400 million and convince someone that, you know, someone's evil because they hate puppies.

00:14:31.000 You know, like you can do anything with $400 million.

00:14:34.000 But again, every single, every single Democrat at the national level has supported not codifying Roe, as they claim, but actually no protection for unborn children or their mothers through all nine months of pregnancy.

00:14:50.000 Some of them even support no protections after the pregnancy is over, meaning the child is born.

00:14:55.000 If you, you know, what should have been happening was help so that people could swiftly pivot to pointing out the extremism of pro-abortion Democrats, which is on the record.

00:15:06.000 They actually have voted for this multiple times.

00:15:10.000 This would have been helpful instead of just hoping the issue would go away or hoping that other issues would predominate.

00:15:16.000 But, you know, again, people can get a little too, I know, I know it's very bad.

00:15:19.000 There are particular races and Gretchen Whitmer and things like that, but there were also a lot of pro-life successes as well.

00:15:25.000 In closing, Molly, tell us about the Federalist great website doing really well.

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00:15:33.000 Well, thanks.

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00:17:53.000 Welcome back to the program.

00:17:55.000 Hey, Charlie, how are you?

00:17:56.000 Very good.

00:17:57.000 Thank you.

00:17:57.000 So, the president announced for his third time for his second term to try to get a second term back, I guess I could say.

00:18:07.000 What has this changed legally?

00:18:08.000 It's been such a topic of the mainstream media with all the investigations.

00:18:12.000 What is this change, if anything?

00:18:15.000 Honestly, not much.

00:18:16.000 I know that there's speculation that it will change the optics of the DOJ or the FBI in terms of putting in any additional investigations or bringing any charges, but I think that that's a very dated thought.

00:18:34.000 I think that the DOJ and the FBI that we're seeing these days don't really care, especially when it relates to Trump.

00:18:41.000 So, I honestly, nothing.

00:18:44.000 I know that it makes it politically charged that appearance if they do bring something, but that doesn't really matter.

00:18:51.000 I can tell you, you know, all of my cases are still going and are very active.

00:18:55.000 And there's been absolutely no change in direction since he announced.

00:18:59.000 Yeah, so I mean, there's a lot of these investigations that are ongoing and that are happening.

00:19:04.000 And I know a lot of people are curious about it.

00:19:08.000 So, what can we expect from the president moving forward?

00:19:10.000 What are his next steps when it comes to these legal fights?

00:19:16.000 I mean, you know, I think he's just going to take them one at a time.

00:19:19.000 I really don't think we can do anything to strategically move them along.

00:19:26.000 We have judges that are very active.

00:19:30.000 You know, obviously Letitia James' case up in New York, we have a judge who's been incredibly difficult, but we're moving right along in that.

00:19:41.000 We're trying to work with the AG, like we've always said.

00:19:44.000 You know, we're all these cases, we cooperate as much as we possibly can.

00:19:49.000 And I think he's going to continue to do so.

00:19:52.000 You know, they're on track.

00:19:54.000 Some of them have trials.

00:19:56.000 I had a trial that started a couple of weeks ago.

00:19:59.000 You know, we just really can't change our path.

00:20:01.000 And our path is to get through them, get to the bottom of them and show that they're frivolous, you know, and that's it.

00:20:07.000 That's all we can do.

00:20:09.000 Yeah.

00:20:09.000 So from a campaign standpoint, is there anything you can kind of cue us into about things he might be doing differently or reimagining his campaign for 2024?

00:20:19.000 So I can tell you the team is being, the team is strong on the campaign so far.

00:20:26.000 I am really looking forward to seeing what their leadership does.

00:20:30.000 I think that the message should be, in my opinion, and I've told him this, and I really believe that the message should be moving forward and really taking a look at how terrible our country has been in the last two years.

00:20:46.000 And I have said this before, I'll say it again.

00:20:48.000 I don't know anybody that could say that their life is better in the past two years.

00:20:51.000 And we went through a pandemic with President Trump.

00:20:55.000 So that's a lot.

00:20:56.000 I think he's got to really, he's looking at his policies and he's always been active.

00:21:00.000 You know that, Charlie.

00:21:00.000 He's so active and he's so in tune with everything that I think it's going to be obviously more formal.

00:21:06.000 There will be guardrails put up with all of the regulations that go into place.

00:21:11.000 But he's going to start to really put into place people that he trusts and move along to get people out to vote.

00:21:21.000 So we haven't really talked about the Mar-a-Lago raid in quite some time.

00:21:26.000 What can you tell us about the status update of that entire investigation, which was insane from the beginning?

00:21:34.000 What's the latest there?

00:21:36.000 I'm not on that Mar-a-Lago case.

00:21:38.000 I'm not the attorney on it.

00:21:40.000 So my knowledge is pretty much the same as yours.

00:21:42.000 We try and, you know, we compartmentalize everything.

00:21:46.000 My hands have been very full with other things.

00:21:49.000 But my understanding is they're cooperating on that and communicating with the DOJ and trying to work that out.

00:21:55.000 I mean, that's what I would assume.

00:21:57.000 Yeah, I mean, it was such an incredible overreach of power in almost every single way possible and imaginable.

00:22:06.000 Are you on the case of the subpoena from the January 6th committee in that ongoing situation?

00:22:10.000 No, no, I'm not.

00:22:12.000 Harmee Dillon is handling that case and doing a great job with it.

00:22:16.000 And I understand that they filed a motion recently because they couldn't get an agreement on terms.

00:22:23.000 You know, I think that what the J6 committee did with video depositions or interrogations and then parsing out the parts that they want and airing them was so corrupt.

00:22:35.000 You know, this is not, this is a legal issue.

00:22:38.000 This is not a soap opera.

00:22:39.000 And I think we have to make sure that we focus on the people that are still in jail, the people that have been in solitary confinement, that get an hour out a day, that many of which they haven't even had their day in court.

00:22:55.000 So I'm not saying there are people that did things wrong that day.

00:22:58.000 There were, but everybody should have their day in court.

00:23:00.000 There is no reason that you should be politicizing something like this and having individuals with families, with children suffering for what?

00:23:08.000 You know, it's just not, it's not okay at all.

00:23:12.000 So there hasn't been a lot made of kind of some illegal wins here.

00:23:16.000 The media wants to shut up President Trump.

00:23:19.000 But talk about some of the big wins that you actually can celebrate legally.

00:23:23.000 Yeah, we had some great wins.

00:23:25.000 For me, top of mind is this week we won a lawsuit against Michael Cohen.

00:23:30.000 He brought against the United States and Bill Barr and Donald Trump, of course, for First Amendment violations. 0.73

00:23:37.000 And his claim was basically that he was put in solitary confinement, treated unfairly, treated differently than anybody else would be treated because he was coming out with a book and that it was retaliatory in nature from the Trump administration and the president personally, which was absolutely ridiculous.

00:23:56.000 We have, we were fighting that.

00:23:58.000 I personally handled that case, obviously, for the president.

00:24:02.000 And we won and it got dismissed.

00:24:05.000 And it was another Michael Cohen, you know, ridiculous attempt to become relevant based on his very long, very long ago relationship with Donald Trump.

00:24:17.000 So that was a big win.

00:24:19.000 The Trump family won against Mary Trump.

00:24:22.000 That was a long haul. 0.76

00:24:24.000 You know, she was trying to get out of something that was predated, had nothing to do with the president.

00:24:29.000 But again, he becomes president and these people come after him.

00:24:33.000 So that got dismissed as well.

00:24:36.000 I'm really, I'm really proud of the work that we're doing.

00:24:38.000 And I think it doesn't get the attention, Charlie, that people like you might give it because they want to tear him down so much or they're on the DeSantis train or whatever it is.

00:24:48.000 And realistically, he's been very successful in a lot of this litigation that comes at him that is completely frivolous.

00:24:56.000 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 And it's just, it's unfortunately, I think it's just going to be starting up again.

00:25:00.000 Well, Alina, thank you so much for joining us and great commentary.

00:25:03.000 And thank you for fighting so hard.

00:25:05.000 Thank you.

00:25:05.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:25:07.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:25:07.000 Appreciate it.

00:25:10.000 There's so many things that are happening here.

00:25:12.000 And as someone said, Charlie, what do you mean that people didn't show up?

00:25:15.000 Look, general turnout in Arizona was lower.

00:25:19.000 And it's just a fact that in Yavapai and in Mojave, Carrie Lake's margins were amazing. 0.79

00:25:26.000 They were incredible by how much she won by, but the actual volume of people that showed up in rural Arizona was good.

00:25:35.000 It was great.

00:25:36.000 I mean, it wasn't, you know, awful, but it was not presidential numbers.

00:25:40.000 Anywhere between 250,000 to 300,000 Republican voters did not even check in to vote.

00:25:47.000 And I know you say, well, Charlie, things were manipulated.

00:25:49.000 No, no, I agree.

00:25:50.000 But they didn't even show up actually to vote on game day, which is to be expected in a midterm election, but also goes to show that there's so many more supporters out there that can and should show up.

00:26:04.000 I want to get to some emails that we're receiving here, but I do want to play a piece of tape here and to kind of set the tone.

00:26:15.000 And look, the situation in front of us is going to require renewed grit and focus and tenacity, unlike anything we've had to see in quite some time.

00:26:28.000 It's not going to be for the fate of heart, but there are so many great wins that we can celebrate.

00:26:36.000 Now, while all of this is ongoing, did you know yesterday that several of your Republicans in Congress went out of their way to try and nullify state laws when it comes to marriage being one man and one woman?

00:26:54.000 Now, I'm not trying to depress you further, but it just honestly needs to be said.

00:26:58.000 The Senate is trying to codify same-sex marriage into law.

00:27:04.000 And who voted for it?

00:27:05.000 Roy Blunt from Missouri, Richard Burr from North Carolina, Shelly Morcapado from West Virginia.

00:27:11.000 These are the Republicans.

00:27:12.000 Susan Collins from Maine, Cynthia Lummis from Wyoming, Rob Portman from Ohio, Mitt Romney from Utah.

00:27:22.000 That's interesting.

00:27:23.000 I wonder if in the LDS world they're really into gay marriage.

00:27:27.000 Must be.

00:27:28.000 Dan Sullivan from Alaska, Tom Tillis from North Carolina, Joni Ernst from Iowa.

00:27:34.000 You got to wonder about that.

00:27:36.000 Senator Young from Indiana and Murkowski from Alaska.

00:27:41.000 By the way, the LDS church, I'm told, endorsed this bill.

00:27:46.000 And they call it the Respect for Marriage Act. 0.98

00:27:48.000 It's such ridiculous. 0.68

00:27:49.000 It is overturning a traditional definition of marriage. 0.99

00:27:54.000 What do we need Democrats for when we have Republicans that gleefully go and vote for gay marriage? 0.96

00:28:01.000 It compels the recognition of other states' marriages, is what it does.

00:28:08.000 Remarkable.

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00:29:27.000 Someone says, Charlie, Republicans didn't show up.

00:29:30.000 Question mark.

00:29:30.000 How many tens of thousands couldn't afford to wait three plus hours, so they never showed up?

00:29:34.000 I totally agree.

00:29:35.000 I'm just making a fact that in some of the strongest Republican areas, Kerry Lake did very well, but there was a drop off between Donald Trump turnout and Kerry Lake turnout.

00:29:46.000 That's to be expected.

00:29:46.000 Presidential turnout is always higher than midterm election turnout.

00:29:50.000 It's just the way it is, always.

00:29:52.000 But there's votes on the table, is what I'm trying to say.

00:29:55.000 There were votes left on the table in Arizona and in other states as well.

00:30:03.000 Email me directly, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:07.000 Let's go to Cut 371 about the new gay marriage bill in the Senate, 371.

00:30:17.000 The Republicans have stopped short of recognizing our trans brothers and sisters.

00:30:22.000 And what we really need is the Equality Act and full equality for LGBT plus people and their partners.

00:30:30.000 That's right.

00:30:31.000 That's what they're trying to say.

00:30:33.000 By the way, I'm about to walk through some numbers with you that are going to shock you about how urban turnout was way down, but it was white rural voters that actually decided to vote Democrat in Pennsylvania.

00:30:46.000 Welcome back, everybody.

00:30:47.000 The final numbers are here with how much money the Democrats raised this cycle.

00:30:52.000 Democrats, through Act Blue, raised $1.8 billion this cycle.

00:30:58.000 Republicans raised $1 billion.

00:31:02.000 That is an $800 million difference, $800 million difference.

00:31:08.000 You got to wonder, though, I mean, for Republicans and conservatives, we're more likely to support charities and churches.

00:31:15.000 For Democrats, this is a religion.

00:31:18.000 They look at their $500 a month contribution to Mark Kelly or Raphael Warnock as a tithe to the secular church of leftism.

00:31:28.000 To them, this is their meaning, too. 0.96

00:31:30.000 This is why they're so miserable.

00:31:31.000 And there is, I just want to communicate this to you, and it's a great learning lesson for me.

00:31:37.000 And maybe you guys already know this, which is politics are important, but politics should not be the source of meaning in your life.

00:31:43.000 You will always be let down, depressed, and disappointed.

00:31:47.000 This is why the left is so miserable, because for them, politics is an instrument of religion.

00:31:54.000 It matters more than anything else.

00:31:56.000 It's so important to them.

00:31:58.000 Who controls what?

00:31:59.000 And it's this big game.

00:32:00.000 And I say for a while, we actually need to care more about politics, but not get to a place where we are dominated by it at every corner and every single turn.

00:32:13.000 Some good news today.

00:32:15.000 Republicans are announcing that investigations into Joe Biden, which is a good first step.

00:32:21.000 The amount of investigations that need to happen in this upcoming House of Representatives is enormous.

00:32:26.000 And CNN last night reluctantly called the House for the Republicans.

00:32:33.000 House of Representatives is now officially in Republican hands.

00:32:36.000 Nancy Pelosi will not seek re-election for Democrat leadership.

00:32:41.000 The midterm election results.

00:32:42.000 There's still, I think, nine seats that have left to be called, nine of them officially, including Lauren Bobert.

00:32:50.000 So that should give us, hopefully, some good news.

00:32:52.000 What is the latest out of Lauren Bobert, by the way?

00:32:55.000 They've gone so mysteriously dark on that.

00:32:58.000 So mysteriously dark.

00:33:01.000 Now, for those of you that are watching in Arizona and lamenting and you're saying, man, how did things go so wrong?

00:33:07.000 Well, interestingly enough, Arizona is about to send more Republican congressmen to Congress than Democrat congressmen.

00:33:15.000 So despite all of the negative and the frustrating news, Arizona is about to send some pretty rock star conservatives to Congress. 0.90

00:33:29.000 Lauren Boebert is up 1,000 votes right now.

00:33:33.000 And has Decision Day called it for Lowen Boebert?

00:33:37.000 They have.

00:33:37.000 Is that right?

00:33:39.000 So then what is our official number if we've called it for Lowen?

00:33:41.000 Are we at 219 now or are we at 220?

00:33:44.000 I don't know.

00:33:45.000 I don't know what number we're at now.

00:33:47.000 There's still some other uncalled races, including Scott Baugh's race in Orange County.

00:33:51.000 That one's going to be tough against Katie Porter.

00:33:53.000 David Valadeo is looking good in California 22.

00:33:56.000 He's a fighter.

00:33:57.000 I'll tell you what.

00:33:58.000 He really is.

00:34:00.000 In California 13, we still have Duarte, so it could end up being around 221, 222.

00:34:06.000 Oh, did decision desks call it for Katie Porter? 1.00

00:34:09.000 She is the worst. 1.00

00:34:10.000 I'll tell you what. 0.94

00:34:11.000 Orange County seat.

00:34:13.000 With all that being said, though, if it was not for Lee Zeldin, if it was not for the pastors in California that ballot harvested and got out in the streets, Democrats would control the United States House of Representatives.

00:34:30.000 If that is, that is the clearest, most convincing argument to not give up.

00:34:38.000 And by the way, Karen Bass, who is a Marxist communist, is going to be the mayor of Los Angeles.

00:34:45.000 And by the way, John Duarte, the one race I just mentioned, another congressional pickup possibly, is in the lead with 91% in.

00:34:52.000 Could be a really good surprise.

00:34:54.000 Boy, I'd love to see us get to 222 or 223.

00:34:58.000 We are going to control the United States House of Representatives.

00:35:01.000 Praise God for that.

00:35:04.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:05.000 Email me as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:08.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:35:09.000 God bless.

00:35:13.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 18, 2022

The Gamification of America's Elections with Mollie Hemingway and Alina Habba

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