00:00:00.000Hey, everybody, it's the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000Molly Hemingway joins us for a debate preview, and Noel Fritsch talks about some bombshell news in regards to January 6th as we try to get closer and closer to the truth.
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00:01:27.000You have a really interesting exclusive story you guys have been covering here, NationalFile.com, about this guy, Jaden X, otherwise known as John Sullivan.
00:01:37.000People might remember he didn't look like he fit.
00:02:04.000And, you know, it's funny, Charlie, after we broke this story, I started getting text messages and DMs all over the continent from, and some of them were the awesome, Uh, anti vax Mississippi, they'll say vaccine choice Mississippi mamas, and they were saying he was at our hotel that night and they knew that something was off with him that night.
00:02:20.000Well, come to find out in this long form interview that uh, National Files Alicia Powell conducted with the brother of John, Jaden X. His name is James, who is a conservative.
00:02:49.000It absolutely puts the lie to this whole idea that there was an insurrection.
00:02:54.000It was a Fed insurrection confirmed by Jaden X's brother, James.
00:02:59.000So tell us what you've learned from James.
00:03:01.000And just to repeat, Jaden X has not been sentenced by the federal government, or he has just kind of been exempt while we have other people in pretrial detention.
00:03:47.000He shared with them, according to James, all of the proof of the planning, which was taking place on Discord servers in a bunch of the Antifa chat rooms on Discord.
00:04:00.000And so this stuff has not seen the light of day.
00:04:02.000This is massively exculpatory evidence for all of the targets of the Biden DOJ and all these folks who are sadly rotting in prison.
00:04:24.000And I know that he was quoted by things like Sky News and a couple other media outlets to get sensational footage on January 6th.
00:04:33.000He had corresponded with CNN and MSNBC and a couple other news organizations, showing them the Discord servers that he was a part of that were basically.
00:04:48.000Um, and I know that people say they don't exist, but like Antifa Discord servers where they're planning January 6th.
00:05:02.000So, that is James, that is the brother of John, the brother of Jaden X, and James himself is a conservative, they're from Utah.
00:05:08.000And, um, he's explaining how ahead of time he knew that what John's plans were to go ahead and be in league with a bunch of essentially undercover agitators.
00:05:23.000John met up with Ray Epps ahead of Freedom Plaza, which was on January the 5th.
00:05:28.000So they were in contact with one another ahead of January 6th.
00:05:32.000It's not like they just happened to be there and they were following the quote unquote Patriots.
00:05:37.000He even says at one point in the interview that Jaden X was actually passing out metal rods and giving specific instructions to the quote unquote Patriots.
00:05:49.000And we have to assume that they were basically all feds, the ones doing the violence, running up to the building and breaking windows with these.
00:05:56.000Charlie, this is really explosive stuff.
00:05:58.000It should honestly set a whole bunch of people free or get them retrials or get them wins in their appeals if there is any justice or rule of law left in this American Republic of ours.
00:06:38.000Look, a lot of this is going to have to be sorted out in a court of law.
00:06:44.000And these gentlemen are going to have to answer for their involvement in this Fed's erection.
00:06:50.000It seems very clear what's going on here.
00:06:52.000I think there's some more footage and audio that further explains what was going on with Jaden X and.
00:06:57.000A woman by the name of Jade Sacker that might help shed some light on the Ray Epps element here.
00:07:03.000So, Jade Sacker is a quote photojournalist and she works for a creative artist agency, CAA, which is a big LA, almost like think tank kind of deep state placement agency for Hollywood.
00:07:18.000And she's there to do a documentary on Jaden and John, I'm sorry, James, the brother James, about their family having been sort of riven by politics.
00:07:29.000That documentary actually did come out.
00:07:31.000She is the woman you can hear famously.
00:07:33.000A lot of the listeners might remember that as Jaden next was breaking into the Capitol and they're ecstatic, she's the woman who's helping to get a lot of the footage.
00:07:42.000And he's saying, Hey, I told you I was going to get you some awesome footage.
00:07:44.000I told you I was going to get some awesome footage.
00:07:46.000And so we actually have evidence, you know, on camera of the fact that this was all premeditated from John, Jaden X himself.
00:07:55.000He admits there on January the 6th that he had already been telling her that this was going to happen.
00:08:24.000We have 16 different camera people that will be going in on both sides of Capitol to capture, you know, basically Patriots slipping up, you know?
00:09:46.000National File has some other reporting that I can tease for you now coming up having to do with some of these trials and the DOJ.
00:09:53.000And some of the prosecuting attorneys colluding to essentially prosecute a lot of the witnesses so as to take them out of the defenses.
00:10:01.000Some of this was reported on earlier this year.
00:10:04.000National File will have some bombshell information coming out about the DOJ and the FBI, Special Agent Nicole Miller specifically, colluding to keep these men and women in jail, which is just anathema.
00:11:26.000Well, I can give you firsthand experience on that, Charlie.
00:11:30.000Last summer, and lover or hater, Marjorie Taylor Greene actually spiked a big rally that none other than Ashley Babbitt's mom, Mickey Witthof, was going to have there in Washington, D.C.
00:11:44.000It was because she's a lot of people are scared of all of the, you know, people, the media, the mockingbird media throws around the word bigot or whatever.
00:11:50.000And some of our elected representatives who are the bravest on TV, you know, behind the scenes, they're still scared of their shadow on a lot of stuff.
00:11:59.000And I would throw Marjorie into that category.
00:12:01.000Obviously, she's been badly behaving ever since with Kevin McCarthy's stuff.
00:12:07.000We do need these Freedom Caucus guys to find their spines.
00:12:11.000Our guy down in here in North Carolina, where I am, Dan Bishop, is sadly going to leave the Freedom Caucus and run for attorney general.
00:12:17.000Maybe he can help us shore up our own borders here.
00:12:21.000It's a mess out there, Charlie, with these prisoners.
00:12:38.000We need to, this is a top level priority.
00:12:41.000If we don't have the Fourth Amendment and the rest of the Constitution enforce rights of a speedy trial, No improper search and seizure, all of these sorts of things, then there's not much of a republic left.
00:12:59.000And a lot of people can feel in their gut that something's going wrong here in this country.
00:13:04.000And it comes down to a lot of that mockingbird media with the pitting of America against each other based on things like what happened on January the 6th.
00:13:15.000And it's all artifice and it's all theater.
00:13:18.000And it's like the Shakespeare play says, you know, all the world's a stage and the men and women are merely players from as you like it.
00:13:51.000Breaking a window, assaulting a police officer?
00:13:53.000I'm not justifying those things, but this is cruel and unusual punishment against the Constitution, right, Noel?
00:13:59.000And if we have equal justice under the law, we got murderers, we got gangbangers, we got thugs, we got arsonists, we got rapists that do whatever the heck they want.
00:14:06.000And I mean, we need mass pardons, mass clemency day one.
00:14:52.000But the religious liberty groups, they need to start deploying some of that money they've raised to come in and defend these guys, defend the alternate electors, defend this.
00:15:00.000Because these groups are like, oh, we only do it for religious liberty.
00:15:12.000And we've seen folks trying to defend the innocent, whether adults wrongly accused, even rightly accused, down to babies, now with the sights of the DOJ and the FBI on their back merely for fighting to protect the innocent, like the unborn here in this country.
00:15:53.000Nationalfile.com, Noel, great reporting.
00:15:55.000We cannot forget about these J6 defendants.
00:15:58.000I'm telling you, if Donald Trump becomes president, I will be right there, not as a staffer, God forbid, but as an advisor and a friend, pushing pardons.
00:16:07.000We need to get these things going immediately, day one.
00:16:10.000Just got to start signing pieces of paper because these guys have been made to suffer in a cruel and unusual way.
00:17:34.000You know, Molly, every time I get in front of an audience and I ever get a skeptical question, oh, Charlie, do you really think the election was whatever, I say, you got to read Molly's book.
00:17:42.000And it's a conversation, Ender, because they don't like reading.
00:17:45.000Your book, Rigged, is, I think, the most important document that came post 2020 election.
00:17:52.000Where it's all facts, not speculation, all facts.
00:17:55.000The book is called Rigged by Molly Hemingway.
00:17:57.000I want to get to that topic in a second, Molly, but first, your reaction Donald Trump up 40 or 50 points, not debating.
00:18:06.000I'm embarrassed to say I'm actually kind of excited for the debate tonight, and only embarrassed because I like to think I'm not super into this kind of horse race political stuff.
00:18:14.000But I'm excited to see how these candidates appear.
00:18:17.000I'm actually looking forward to seeing how they appear without the distraction of President Trump.
00:18:22.000I think he takes over a stage in such a big way that it can eat up the whole event.
00:18:28.000As for him, I understand why both he and President Biden are not debating.
00:18:32.000They are so far ahead in their polls that most political strategists would say it's all risk, no reward to go on to a debate stage with people who are so far behind them.
00:18:43.000But I also think it's true that President Trump does very well in debates, that him taking out each opponent in 2015 and 2016 was why he was so good against Hillary Clinton.
00:18:55.000That he hadn't debated for four years when it was up against Joe Biden, and it kind of showed because he hadn't had any primary debates.
00:19:01.000So, I think he also should think about even though it's against the conventional wisdom that when you're 40 plus points ahead of your opponent, or however much it is at this point, you would never debate.
00:19:12.000I think there are advantages to debating as well.
00:19:16.000So, as we look at kind of the Republican field, what candidates, Molly, are you going to, or people on the stage, because it's hard to call them candidates, there's not much of a race, people on stage, are you really going to be most interested in?
00:19:26.000Like, if you were to kind of say, I'm This guy, I think he has a lot to say.
00:20:02.000And I feel like his campaign has not really been able to, I mean, just by virtue of what it is, you're going to Iowa, you're going to New Hampshire.
00:20:09.000But what people really like is kind of.
00:20:11.000The Florida version, what he's able to do in Florida.
00:20:13.000So I hope he reintroduces himself just as the person he is, not a change or anything like that.
00:20:19.000But he never really got that chance to introduce himself.
00:20:22.000And I'm mostly interested in him and Vivek because I just think between those two and President Trump, they have like 80, what, 85% of the party behind them.
00:20:32.000And they are clearly the future of the party.
00:20:35.000All of this other stuff, like the Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, that's like the Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, more, you know, that era.
00:20:47.000And it's taking a while for professional DC or the political class to accept that, but it's just true.
00:20:53.000So, what I'm going to be most interested about Molly tonight, and I will be watching, I'll also be watching Trump Tucker thing, which will be something, is the foreign policy aspect.
00:21:02.000Because on stage, they almost all agree on foreign policy, absent Vivek, where there is kind of this consensus of foreign wars, neoliberalism.
00:21:13.000Do you think we're going to kind of see a little bit of the tension of old right versus new right?
00:21:16.000I'm talking about ideologically less personality.
00:21:20.000Yeah, when you were talking about what you're looking for, this is actually what I'm most interested in to see how this issue and a few other issues are dealt with by the candidates on the stage.
00:21:31.000And I would say that actually Ron DeSantis is also against that weird neocon phase that the Republican Party went through from 2000 to 2015, which is not what we were seeing from the right, from really going back to Eisenhower.
00:21:48.000That was a completely different thing to Eisenhower, to Reagan, and even George.
00:21:52.000H.W. Bush were very much about strong national interest based foreign policy.
00:21:58.000And then they had that diversion into the almost like Clinton esque neocon interventionism.
00:22:06.000But DeSantis did a great job, I thought, in his interview with Brett Baer, who will be one of the moderators tonight, talking about his foreign policy and how he does not support the sort of DC consensus on, for instance, the proxy war with Russia.
00:22:23.000So, I know he has donor tension and that his donors want him to do the neocon thing, and that's a problem that he's dealing with.
00:22:30.000But I am very curious to see how he handles that.
00:22:33.000So, I now want to kind of broaden this.
00:22:35.000You have composed the book rigged, and now we're kind of, I think, entering into a 2024 version.
00:22:41.000We're going to kind of live through elements of this.
00:22:44.000Molly, I'm very worried that there are outright calls now to cancel the presidential election.
00:23:27.000They wanted people not just to vote, but to vote with a knowledge of the issues and the candidates and what the effects of voting would be.
00:23:34.000And it was almost a bipartisan thing where people would study it and write about it.
00:23:37.000And now nobody talks about it because the Democrat Party and other powerful institutions that are associated with the Democrat Party have basically moved us away from campaigns and elections into just raw ballot operations where they are locating people with pulses who might not know there's an election, might not know the issues in play, might not know who the candidates are.
00:24:01.000And they're just kind of taking over their whole role in the electoral process, you know.
00:24:05.000Getting them registered and then getting the ballots filled out and getting them put in, even if the people are, you know, it's just something that we used to not think was a good and healthy way to have democratic republics.
00:24:18.000And so, you are seeing this in a lot of states where you just have ballot operations, they don't, the candidates don't debate because they don't, um, they don't think they need to worry about persuading anybody to vote because they understand that they've got the ballot operation in the bag and they don't, you know, they don't need to persuade anybody that their cause is just.
00:24:40.000Yeah, and I don't know if we've seen the proper pushback.
00:24:43.000So let me ask you just on the criminalization side of Donald Trump and the trials he's facing what would a healthy Republican Party response be, top to bottom, state, local, and federal, to the ongoing criminalization of Donald Trump and the alternate electors in Michigan, which no one's talking about?
00:25:00.000Rose Rook, 81 years old from Paw Paw, Michigan.
00:25:03.000If the Republican Party was healthy, how would the Republican Party respond to all of this?
00:25:08.000I think a smart, sane party should have seen the moment that that election happened, not just that they had to work to make sure that we never had elections run like that ever again, but to also be able to articulate and understand what had happened.
00:25:23.000And that is a big reason why I wrote the book with the actual story of how elections were taken over by the left, how Democrat Party operatives kind of like came in and took over government election offices, how they were financed by Mark Zuckerberg, how big tech and corporate media have conspired to.
00:25:41.000Do things that if it happened in any other country, we would say that the elections were not free or fair.
00:25:46.000And you might not want to talk about election integrity.
00:25:49.000You might wish that things associated with the election integrity movement hadn't happened.
00:25:53.000But if you couldn't see that we would be at a point where the Department of Justice and other Democrat operatives would be using this as their 2024 campaign strategy, you should just get out of politics because it was pretty much obvious by November 4th, 2020.
00:26:09.000And so everyone needs to understand that.
00:26:12.000This is not about particular individuals.
00:26:15.000This is about an attempt to make it illegal to oppose the regime.
00:26:21.000It already is affecting a huge swath of people.
00:26:25.000But being informed about what actually happened is key because you don't want to say any of the crazy conspiracy theories that people put out there that actually damaged the election integrity movement.
00:26:33.000But what was done needs to be addressed.
00:26:35.000And so understanding, like, I'm actually shocked that Georgia became a focus of this because that's actually a state that had a major problem.
00:26:59.000You have to understand the issues in play, what Georgia state law is, so you can speak about it well, I think.
00:27:08.000Yeah, I mean, so it's if you look at the actual technical issue, I mean, you know this super well, Molly.
00:27:13.000We've talked about it from the consent decree, because there were two consent decrees, not just the RNC one.
00:27:17.000But the consent decree, when it came to the signature verification thing that came right before COVID, was awfully suspicious.
00:27:23.000And then the mass mail in balloting, Georgia goes from 247,000 mail in ballots to 2.4 million mail in ballots.
00:27:30.000But Molly, what bothers me, and I don't think this has received enough attention, there's so many elements to this, is the criminalization of the lawyers, the lawyers, people that were giving legal advice to Donald Trump.
00:27:43.000That this is a Rubicon that's never been crossed before.
00:27:47.000Well, we started seeing this happen even during the Trump administration when they were violating attorney client privilege to go after Trump, and people were just kind of like ho hum about it.
00:27:57.000The way that a republic falls when you can't have confidence in the rule of law and understanding that even if you don't like someone or like you really think that like Republicans don't have a right to exist, that there are barriers to what you can do to keep them out of power.
00:28:09.000Um, but again, in this case, I think it's important to understand that you can have disputes about the proper legal approach, but that is very different from criminalizing legal advice or you know.
00:28:21.000So, uh, to go back to what I was just saying about the number of illegal votes, the lawsuit that was in Georgia was about how the Trump team believed they had.
00:28:31.000As many as 150,000, I think was their number, votes that should not have been counted toward the contest.
00:28:39.000And because votes are private, you don't know who people are voting for.
00:28:43.000So the law says only if there are a certain number of votes that are greater than the margin of error, you're supposed to actually redo an election.
00:28:49.000And there's this guy down there in Georgia who's like super wonky, who understood that Georgia was not doing a good job of enforcing this one part of their law, where if you move from one county to another and you've lived there for 30 days, you're not allowed to vote in the old county that you used to live in and that actually was happening.
00:30:08.00010 years ago, or 30 years ago, when we marched against him on the Central Park Fire, I'm talking about he, within the last 24 hours, used the term rigors.
00:30:18.000Is this the kind of party the Republicans want to show the country that they are?
00:30:24.000Al Charlatan, Molly Hemingway, he has something to say about your book title, Molly.
00:30:30.000Yeah, I take all my thoughts on racial healing and comedy from this guy.
00:30:36.000So, not too concerned about what he's saying here.
00:30:41.000It's really remarkable and just making stuff up.
00:30:43.000I guess if it rhymes, it's what you mean.
00:30:46.000So, Molly, kind of looking from now till the November 2024 election, having studied the 2020 election and how unprepared we are, what are one or two action items of things we need to fix, things we need to improve, something that's happening in real time that we have to get on if we want to improve our likelihood of winning back the White House in November of 24?
00:31:08.000Okay, I have like good news and bad news.
00:31:10.000So, on the good news front, it's good to remember that.
00:31:13.000The 2020 election was unlike anyone that we'd ever had.
00:31:17.000And it was massively helped in terms of the corruption issues by the COVID pandemic and the response to that.
00:31:22.000And people were able to like move through all of these crazy election related laws.
00:31:27.000And in many places, that is no longer the case.
00:31:31.000It's also obviously true that in many places, those are now permanent changes.
00:31:35.000But it's only 43,000 votes across three states that controlled the 2020 election.
00:31:39.000And so if you don't like what Democrats are doing and you're a Republican, you don't have to be anywhere near as good as they are.
00:31:45.000You just have to kind of be in the game of.
00:31:48.000Of moving to a ballot operation thing.
00:31:49.000Like, it's not so much about do you have the best arguments?
00:32:01.000I'm not saying it's good, but I think if you want to win an election and improve things, that's what you should do.
00:32:10.000And it's also true that since 2020, you have had, I mean, I think it could be hundreds of thousands of activists who are now.
00:32:18.000Aware and on the ground, concerned about election integrity and monitoring their situation in their state.
00:32:24.000And that is a much better situation for Republicans than they had even a few years ago.
00:32:29.000But the bad news thing is that whereas in 2020, it was Mark Zuckerberg putting in $419 million in the blue areas of swing states, and that was a lot, one of the first things that President Biden did in office was to basically take that Zuckerberg program and require each federal agency to take the quasi unlimited power of the American taxpayer purse.
00:32:54.000And so they are doing things that used to always be viewed as just completely corrupt to have, you know, like target election related activities to welfare recipients or work study programs at schools.
00:33:05.000And so they are doing what they're doing with the power and the power of the purse of the federal government.
00:33:11.000And so I would be really on top of what's happening on college campuses, shenanigans there, big time.
00:33:19.000Or other, I don't know, just other federal agencies, what they're doing.
00:33:23.000Yeah, I mean, this is an underreported thing where he's using the federal government money as a get out the vote operation in an unprecedented way.
00:33:35.000Should House Republicans maybe do a hearing or two, at least make them feel as if we're watching them, right?