The Charlie Kirk Show - The GOP Elites' Kiss of Death with Rachel Bovard and Herschel Walker

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00:00:04.000 Rachel Bovard explores that topic.

00:00:06.000 What are the cities we need to win in 2024 and improvements we need to make?

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00:01:27.000 It'd be very interesting, you know, if I was a liberal talk show host, which by the way, liberals are very bad at talk radio.

00:01:33.000 There's a whole theory behind that.

00:01:35.000 It's very interesting.

00:01:36.000 Liberals have tried to get into the talk radio space for years and they've been unable to do it because part of talk radio is correcting the lies and correcting the false narratives and kind of being contrarian.

00:01:47.000 And obviously, the great rush was the pioneer of it.

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00:01:52.000 And so if I were a liberal talk show host and I asked all of you, email me, you know, transgender at whatever.com or whatever email they would have, or justice at you know, charliekirk.com or whatever it would be.

00:02:08.000 And I'd say, what are you thankful for?

00:02:09.000 I mean, I don't, I don't, the more time you spend with the left, the more you realize that they are not a grateful people.

00:02:15.000 You have to be ungrateful to be on the left because they want to change everything.

00:02:20.000 If you are filled with gratitude, you want to conserve it.

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00:02:44.000 Joining us now is Rachel Bovard, who wrote a very interesting piece for the New York Times.

00:02:48.000 What makes Trump Different from DeSantis and other Republicans?

00:02:52.000 Rachel is with us right now.

00:02:54.000 Rachel, welcome to the program.

00:02:55.000 Thanks for having me.

00:02:56.000 So, Rachel, why don't you summarize the piece for our audience and we'll dive into it from there?

00:03:02.000 So, the piece really looks into what I think is the appeal of Donald Trump.

00:03:07.000 And I think people in Washington, particularly establishment Republicans and even sort of what I call a conservative intelligentsia, miss this.

00:03:16.000 And this is exactly the dynamic I saw play out in 2016.

00:03:19.000 And it's going to play out again in 2024 because people in leadership of the Republican Party have no idea, still have no idea why it is that Trump won.

00:03:30.000 And it is this visceral connection that he has with his base voters who trust him implicitly.

00:03:37.000 And interestingly, Dave Chappelle honed in on this, I think, really well when he was hosting Saturday Night Live recently.

00:03:43.000 I don't watch Saturday Night Live personally, but I caught this clip and I thought he articulated it extremely well.

00:03:49.000 He said, Look, I live in Ohio.

00:03:51.000 You people have no idea why Trump is so popular there. 0.99

00:03:55.000 And he said, Trump is what I call an honest liar.

00:03:57.000 And what he meant by that was, you know, he pointed back to this debate that Trump had with Hillary Clinton in 2016, where, you know, Trump basically said, look, I know the system is rigged because I use it.

00:04:10.000 And that was just, I think, distilled to its essence the why people trust Trump the way that they do, because he said out loud as a beneficiary of someone at the top of the system who benefited from how it's sort of rigged and corrupt toward the top.

00:04:26.000 He said out loud what everybody at the bottom has long suspected, which is that the system itself is rigged.

00:04:31.000 And because he benefited from it, he had tremendous credibility in pointing that out.

00:04:36.000 And so people, I think, who vote for Trump really see him as someone who cannot bend the system because he's been part of it.

00:04:43.000 But now he stands outside it and he is able to take it on in a way that nobody else has been able to do.

00:04:50.000 And in a way that is, you know, people who try to do it within the Republican Party are just so distrusted because for years and years and years, they told their base, hey, vote for us.

00:05:00.000 We'll get control of illegal immigration. 0.98

00:05:02.000 You know, we'll fight for you on the cultural issues.

00:05:04.000 We'll protect your jobs from going overseas.

00:05:06.000 And they did the exact opposite.

00:05:08.000 So Trump still has that connection with his base.

00:05:11.000 And I think people that try to overlook it are just missing it intentionally or because they just haven't been curious about it.

00:05:18.000 But it's a dynamic that I think can very easily play out again in 2024, which is why I think Trump could easily win the GOP nomination.

00:05:26.000 Not to say that Ron DeSantis hasn't done amazing things in Florida.

00:05:29.000 I think he has, but he's sort of untested on a lot of these issues.

00:05:33.000 And I think he's going to have to define himself there if he wants to have a shot at winning the nom.

00:05:38.000 Yeah, so I'm starting to retreat from the prediction business as it kind of went miserably for me the last 10 days.

00:05:43.000 However, I do say the one prediction that I will remain very loyal to is I don't see anyone that could beat Donald Trump in a primary.

00:05:50.000 I mean, he is built for a Republican primary.

00:05:53.000 He understands the language, media savviness, the money he would raise.

00:05:57.000 He has an unbelievable connection with the base that I think would only expand.

00:06:01.000 And the recent poll seems to reflect that.

00:06:03.000 And there's another thing that Donald Trump embodied, and you mentioned this, which is he used to be a member of the elite and the ruling class and kind of a defector from it to then kind of turn it against the elite ruling class itself, as if the only person that could fight the ruling class is someone who actually has come from the ruling class and he knows all the different sore spots and weak spots to be able to go after it.

00:06:26.000 And so what do you think is then the current state of play then in this Republican primary?

00:06:32.000 Polling aside, what do you think is Donald Trump's greatest weakness going into this primary?

00:06:39.000 I think his greatest weakness is if we see, you know, Trump still being held or being attached to personal grievances that he has with the system.

00:06:51.000 You know, what he was able to do very well in 2016 is point out that the system was corrupt.

00:06:57.000 And I think, you know, just as we've discussed, do so in a very convincing way.

00:07:01.000 This time around, what I think he has to do is when he holds on to how he was thwarted during his presidency, you know, how the sort of deep state bureaucrats, right, the sort of fourth estate administrative state came after him, you know, how he feels about the 2020 election.

00:07:16.000 The way in which to talk about that that's compelling is to say, look, they came for me because they're ultimately coming for you.

00:07:22.000 And he has to, I think, bring that message back to the campaign trail.

00:07:25.000 If he makes it solely about sort of himself and, you know, how he feels aggrieved personally and doesn't attach it to that larger message of, I can protect you from the system that's coming.

00:07:38.000 I think that he has to be able to do that, you know, to, I think, propel himself forward.

00:07:42.000 If it's just about personal ego, I don't think he, that's a big liability for him, I think.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:48.000 And so, you know, I think people are casting far too wide of a net when we think about the 2024 election.

00:07:53.000 You know, people say Trump can't win, Trump can't win.

00:07:56.000 The question is, can he win Kenosha County?

00:08:00.000 Can he win Waukesha, Wisconsin?

00:08:02.000 Can he do better in Cobb County?

00:08:04.000 Do better in Fulton?

00:08:05.000 Do better in Chandler, Arizona, do better in Mesa, Arizona, do better in Awatuke, and do better in central Scottsdale and North Phoenix.

00:08:13.000 Literally, it's down to not states.

00:08:15.000 We're down to seven cities.

00:08:16.000 If Donald Trump can do better in seven cities, he wins another term.

00:08:20.000 Because look, here's what we do know.

00:08:22.000 In a general election, Donald Trump will win Florida.

00:08:25.000 Donald Trump will win North Carolina.

00:08:27.000 Donald Trump will win Iowa.

00:08:29.000 And Donald Trump will win Ohio.

00:08:31.000 Pennsylvania is a whole different ball of wax.

00:08:33.000 I think that one we really were able to get from the Democrats in 16.

00:08:37.000 I'm not as bullish on that.

00:08:39.000 But if Trump wins Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, he gets the 270 electoral votes.

00:08:44.000 Michigan, I think it's a tall order right now.

00:08:47.000 That alone.

00:08:48.000 The question is, and Rachel, here is the challenge.

00:08:51.000 Can Donald Trump win those kind of upper middle class center right voters in the suburbs of Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Phoenix?

00:09:01.000 You know, I'm not in the prediction business either, but I do think if he can make a compelling case that he is still different from every other Republican politician that has promised voters something and let them down again and again, then that is the message that won him the presidency in 2016.

00:09:17.000 I think he could do it again if he's able to present himself still as an outsider to that system and willing to take on the old shibboleths, challenge the old orthodoxies, and really stand up against the left's cultural aggression in ways traditional Republican politicians just flat out won't.

00:09:34.000 Then I think he can win those voters.

00:09:36.000 But that's, you know, he's got to present that in a clear and compelling fashion.

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00:10:44.000 Rachel, who do you think in the kind of current GOP primary field is kind of DeSantis looks like he may or may not run?

00:10:53.000 Pence, Pompeo.

00:10:55.000 I mean, do you think that any one of them have a serious chance based on what you've seen to make a serious kind of campaign in the coming year and a half?

00:11:06.000 I mean, believe it or not, everybody, just so everyone knows, we are like a year from now, a year from now, we're going to be talking about Iowa.

00:11:14.000 Just so everyone is.

00:11:16.000 Why you got to scare me like that?

00:11:18.000 I know.

00:11:18.000 A year from now, we are going to be talking about Iowa caucus strategies.

00:11:25.000 I just want to just terrify the entire audience.

00:11:27.000 There is no time off.

00:11:28.000 To give you even a scarier thing, this summer, the Iowa State Fair is going to be filled with GOP presidential candidates pretending they like deep-fried butter.

00:11:38.000 That's what's happening this summer.

00:11:39.000 So, Rachel, we are a year out from Iowa fascination incredibly.

00:11:47.000 Hard to wrap my head around that.

00:11:49.000 Who could possibly challenge him?

00:11:52.000 So, I'm very interested to see this dynamic play out because I think you very much are going to see a bunch of Republican candidates engage in this regression to the mean.

00:12:02.000 And by that, I mean they're going to pretend that Donald Trump never happened in terms of his policy shifts in the Republican Party, in terms of the more populist approach he's given to Republicans.

00:12:13.000 And I think you're going to see a lot of Republicans, you know, sort of headpat that without actually offering anything significantly new.

00:12:22.000 You know, I think you kind of see Nikki Haley in this vein.

00:12:25.000 I suspect Pompeo's in this vein.

00:12:28.000 I'm very interested to see how Mike Pence navigates this as part, you know, of the Trump administration.

00:12:33.000 Does he embrace Trump's heterodoxy on things like trade?

00:12:37.000 Is he going to be more skeptical of corporate power?

00:12:40.000 Is he going to embrace a more working class agenda for the Republican Party?

00:12:44.000 And if so, what does that look like?

00:12:45.000 You know, I think Ron DeSantis has probably the best record at aggressing on some of these issues, particularly on the culture war.

00:12:53.000 And I think he's living proof that if Republican politicians actually stand up firmly against leftward cultural aggression, it can be a winner.

00:13:02.000 I love to see that.

00:13:04.000 You know, and I think I said it in the piece.

00:13:06.000 I think he has well-deserved applaudits, you know, for all of the steps he's taken in Florida.

00:13:12.000 But I do think he right now, and it's not his fault, but I think he suffers from the establishment Republicans in D.C. embracing him.

00:13:22.000 People like Paul Ryan, people like Wall Street CEOs, people like David French, and even National Review to some extent.

00:13:30.000 They don't understand how distrusted they are by the base of the Republican Party.

00:13:36.000 So I think their embrace of DeSantis is actually hurting him.

00:13:40.000 I totally agree.

00:13:41.000 And again, it's not DeSantis' fault.

00:13:43.000 Yes.

00:13:43.000 Right.

00:13:43.000 But it's not his fault, but he's got to, if he can, make some rhetorical distance between himself and these people because they are hurting his candidacy.

00:13:51.000 I can't tell.

00:13:52.000 And that's something he's going to have to grapple with.

00:13:53.000 I can't tell you how many people have texted me.

00:13:56.000 They said, Charlie, I'm kind of sick of Trump and fatigued.

00:13:59.000 But the more that the moderates embrace DeSantis, the more distrusting of DeSantis I am.

00:14:06.000 And right.

00:14:06.000 And it's not his fault.

00:14:08.000 I want to make that clear.

00:14:09.000 I don't think he's courting these people.

00:14:10.000 No, I don't either.

00:14:11.000 But he has got to address that.

00:14:13.000 And I think that will be a problem for him moving forward unless he's able to create some distance.

00:14:18.000 I agree.

00:14:18.000 Rachel, great commentary.

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00:14:20.000 And a year from today, you and I will be talking about Iowa cautious strategy.

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00:14:26.000 I know.

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00:15:33.000 So someone says, Charlie, this is actually a really good question.

00:15:36.000 Charlie, what have we learned and what is our strategy?

00:15:39.000 Look, a movement that does not adapt, a military that does not adapt, an organization that does not adapt will die.

00:15:48.000 It's that simple.

00:15:49.000 You must always constantly be adapting and improving.

00:15:53.000 And one thing that we have to learn from is in Maricopa County, if we just all broadcast election day, election day, election day, it doesn't go well.

00:16:03.000 You get sabotage, ambushes, all this nonsense.

00:16:06.000 So instead, and I want to make sure I'm very clear about this, the ideal, the ideal way, how we want elections to operate is different than what we have to navigate.

00:16:17.000 The ideal, I would love to have a national day where everyone goes and votes.

00:16:21.000 Voter ID, one day of voting, that's it.

00:16:24.000 The way France does it, you know the winner by the election night, but that's not the world we live in.

00:16:28.000 So if you live in Georgia, I would not recommend voting by mail, but in person early voting, in-person early voting, go get your vote banked.

00:16:39.000 We need the entire America first, the entire conservative movement in Georgia.

00:16:45.000 I could tell you, there's going to be shenanigans and nonsense and all of this, but we have got to get Herschel Walker across the finish line.

00:16:52.000 This is the difference between the Democrats having a reliable 52-48 Senate or a 50-50 Senate.

00:17:00.000 And with the 50-50 Senate, you're going to have cinema in a tough reelection fight and cinema with hopefully a tough primary challenge that seems to be bubbling up in Arizona with Congressman Gallego and also Joe Manchin, who's going to have a very difficult race if he decides to proceed.

00:17:16.000 Joe Manchin just might go become a lobbyist, where it looks as if the popular governor Justice might run, Morrissey might run.

00:17:24.000 There's a lot of different people in West Virginia that will keep pressure on Manchin.

00:17:28.000 So this Democrat 50-50 majority won't really even feel like a majority.

00:17:33.000 And the 2024 Senate map is great for Republicans.

00:17:36.000 And yes, we got to make changes.

00:17:38.000 We got to get rid of McConnell.

00:17:39.000 We got to do all sorts of things.

00:17:40.000 But you know what?

00:17:41.000 We got to be focused on solutions.

00:17:42.000 We got to be positive.

00:17:43.000 And I know a lot of you right now, you are waiting for a chance to have that proverbial one more football game to rinse the bad taste out of your mouth.

00:17:51.000 I certainly am.

00:17:53.000 And boy, I think Herschel knows exactly what I mean by that.

00:17:55.000 And Herschel will be with us in a second.

00:17:57.000 You know, in football, if you have a bad game or you lose, let's just say because of a bad referee call and you just know it wasn't right, you are counting down the minutes to the next game.

00:18:09.000 You just can't wait.

00:18:10.000 You want to get that bad taste out of your mouth.

00:18:13.000 And no better way to propel our movement, no better way to say, you know what?

00:18:17.000 We didn't like what happened in Arizona.

00:18:19.000 We're still fighting in the courts and we're going to ask for a revote, but we have a legitimate chance to flip a Senate seat in Georgia.

00:18:25.000 Like, I understand that some of you are burned out.

00:18:27.000 Too bad.

00:18:28.000 We've got a country to save.

00:18:29.000 We've got a republic to save.

00:18:31.000 Oh, Charlie, I'm just so doom and gloom.

00:18:33.000 Then go find another country because we're up against the forces of darkness.

00:18:38.000 We're up against some very serious people.

00:18:39.000 We've got to get Herschel Walker across the finish line.

00:18:42.000 The guy is working his tail off.

00:18:43.000 He's working the state.

00:18:44.000 He's popular.

00:18:46.000 I'm not even looking at the polls.

00:18:48.000 I'm done with all these predictions.

00:18:49.000 Charlie's Herschel is going to win.

00:18:50.000 I don't know.

00:18:50.000 Herschel could win by five.

00:18:52.000 He could lose by 20.

00:18:53.000 I don't know.

00:18:53.000 What I am saying, though, is that if you are in Georgia, go vote early in person.

00:18:59.000 I am now going to try to adjust from this last nonsense that we just lived through Maricopa County.

00:19:04.000 I am not going to have to, I'm not going to live with myself if I have to see another email from a senior citizen where she said, Charlie, I wanted to vote and I was not able to vote because of the two-hour line in Maricopa County.

00:19:20.000 Two-hour line.

00:19:22.000 First time since 1981.

00:19:24.000 So what if we now adapt and adjust and say, okay, let's go do in-person early voting.

00:19:29.000 In-person early voting is secure.

00:19:33.000 Voting on election day is better than that.

00:19:35.000 But honestly, we have now got to embrace the new rules in front of us.

00:19:41.000 If every conservative in Georgia rises up and goes and votes in person and early, Herschel Walker will be a senator.

00:19:49.000 And then it will not functionally feel as if the Democrats are controlling the Senate.

00:19:57.000 We'll have the House. 0.93

00:19:57.000 It'll be 50-50. 0.93

00:19:59.000 That means we'll have 50-50 assignments on all committees.

00:20:02.000 And it will dramatically improve our chances to take the U.S. Senate for good in 2024.

00:20:09.000 Every one of these victories matters.

00:20:11.000 And 50-50 is shared leadership.

00:20:13.000 It's shared time.

00:20:15.000 And by the way, any one of these senators could resign at some point.

00:20:18.000 Cinema could resign.

00:20:20.000 Manchin could resign or at least not serve out their full term.

00:20:25.000 Unlikely that cinema would do that because it would put the entire Senate in jeopardy.

00:20:29.000 But the point being is things can change.

00:20:31.000 And by the way, we have a great challenge coming up in Montana in a presidential year, which John Tester usually does a lot better in midterm years than presidential years.

00:20:44.000 John Tester, I think, is going to get a very serious challenge from Congressman Rosendale.

00:20:50.000 So we've got to win this.

00:20:53.000 And this is a great opportunity.

00:20:55.000 I think a lot of us are saying, Charlie, we have got to be able to spark plug our movement.

00:21:02.000 This is a chance.

00:21:02.000 Someone says here, Charlie, I refuse to vote early in Georgia.

00:21:07.000 It gives them a chance to harvest more ballots for election day.

00:21:11.000 Okay, Carol, that's fine.

00:21:12.000 That's your choice.

00:21:13.000 I'm learning from what just happened in Arizona.

00:21:14.000 I'm not going to let it happen again.

00:21:17.000 I saw points left on the board in Arizona because people did not vote early in person.

00:21:22.000 I'm not going to put up with that.

00:21:23.000 Ron DeSantis largely won because of in-person early voting.

00:21:28.000 And by the way, let me be very clear.

00:21:29.000 In the ideal, I want to get rid of all this early voting, this mail-in.

00:21:33.000 I want to get rid of all of it.

00:21:34.000 But you got to live with the game that is in front of you.

00:21:37.000 And the game in front of us is less than ideal.

00:21:40.000 But I want to win, and you should want to win too.

00:21:42.000 So how do we win?

00:21:44.000 Especially for senior citizens, people that might not have as much time on their hands.

00:21:50.000 Go vote in person and early.

00:21:53.000 If you look in Florida, for example, Florida that has secure elections.

00:21:58.000 And by 9 p.m., we knew Ron DeSantis had won convincingly.

00:22:02.000 By mail in Florida, 2 million people voted by mail.

00:22:07.000 Charlie Crist won the mail vote, not the mail vote, the vote by mail vote, 54% to 45%.

00:22:14.000 But where Ron DeSantis crushed Charlie Crist even more than by election day was early in person.

00:22:24.000 Look at that graphic.

00:22:25.000 Early in person, which can be done securely.

00:22:27.000 I'm not talking about vote by mail.

00:22:29.000 I'm not talking about throwing your ballot into the mailbox.

00:22:31.000 I'm talking about going on a weekend, which is now available thanks to Mark Elias, going on a weekday and saying, I'm going to vote in person, early.

00:22:41.000 I'm going to beat the lines.

00:22:42.000 I'm not going to allow them to be doing all this nonsense.

00:22:47.000 And you might say, Charlie, oh, come on.

00:22:49.000 I'm telling you, what I saw in Maricopa County, I am never going to allow happen again with my commentary, and you shouldn't either.

00:22:55.000 Three-hour lines, machine tabulation errors.

00:22:59.000 Someone says right here, Charlie, I voted on game day on Georgia, but now I'll be voting early in person.

00:23:05.000 God bless you, Kelly.

00:23:07.000 By the way, we cannot stop this.

00:23:10.000 If you say, Charlie, I just did not feel totally satisfied with how these midterms went.

00:23:15.000 It's not over.

00:23:16.000 There's two minutes left on the clock in the fourth quarter.

00:23:19.000 Let's pull this off.

00:23:21.000 Dan says, Charlie, there's no way the powers that be could pull off the same thing in Georgia that they did in Arizona.

00:23:26.000 If we adapt and adjust, we are just playing into their hands.

00:23:29.000 If people listen to you, we just sacrificed Election Day only to be screwed in a totally new way.

00:23:33.000 You are telegraphing a different move.

00:23:35.000 You are smart in this.

00:23:36.000 Dan, I disagree.

00:23:38.000 He did say this, though.

00:23:39.000 Okay, old people and busy people can vote early, but no one else.

00:23:42.000 Okay, we agree with that, Dan.

00:23:43.000 An unknown amount of people in Arizona never cast a ballot because of the chaos that happened on election day.

00:23:53.000 If you're still a game day voter, I prefer game day.

00:23:56.000 I totally get it.

00:23:58.000 We have got to broaden the appeal of voting in person and early in these elections.

00:24:04.000 And so, look, this is an opportunity for us to get a victory, a victory that could propel us into 2024.

00:24:12.000 All the nonsense from this last election aside.

00:24:16.000 And Herschel Walker joins us right now.

00:24:18.000 Herschel, welcome back to the program.

00:24:20.000 How are you doing?

00:24:21.000 Good.

00:24:21.000 We're talking about why we need to take this Georgia runoff incredibly seriously.

00:24:26.000 Tell us about how things are on the ground.

00:24:28.000 Tell us about the energy you're experiencing.

00:24:30.000 Give us an update.

00:24:32.000 Well, you know, things on the ground is going well.

00:24:34.000 We getting people out knocking on doors.

00:24:37.000 We're letting them know that right now that their vote really counts.

00:24:41.000 They got to get out and vote.

00:24:42.000 Get out and vote is very, very important.

00:24:44.000 Right now, holding Chuck Schumann still is this seat here.

00:24:51.000 Georgia can do that.

00:24:53.000 So what people got to do is they got to get out and vote.

00:24:55.000 Got to have their vote counted.

00:24:57.000 And, you know, I think Senator Warnott is going a little bit on the crazy side because now I think he's being exposed for not being the senator he claimed to be.

00:25:08.000 So I think he's being exposed a little bit and he doesn't like it.

00:25:12.000 But I think the truth is the truth, whether you like it or not.

00:25:15.000 But the people are responding to it.

00:25:17.000 And I feel that we're going to win this race.

00:25:20.000 And I think we're going to win a lot bigger than what people think.

00:25:23.000 So Herschel, what is your message to people that are saying, you know, oh, I'm tired.

00:25:28.000 I'm fatigued.

00:25:29.000 You know, I don't have time for this.

00:25:32.000 Herschel, you're probably the best college running back of all time.

00:25:36.000 You don't have a lot of sympathy for this idea.

00:25:38.000 It's fourth quarter time, isn't it?

00:25:39.000 It's time for us to finish stronger than ever before.

00:25:42.000 It is fourth quarter time.

00:25:43.000 But what time it is, it is time for people to wake up and do exactly as not what your country can do for you, but do what you can do for your country.

00:25:52.000 Because if you don't get out and vote right now, the United States of America that we used to know would be erased.

00:26:00.000 We would have an open border.

00:26:02.000 You know, the left believes in an open border.

00:26:04.000 You see what's happening right now.

00:26:06.000 You're going to have crime getting worse.

00:26:08.000 Crime is going to get even worse because you see what's happening right now.

00:26:12.000 They don't want to respond to it.

00:26:13.000 Inflation is going to go up even higher. 0.78

00:26:16.000 You're going to see men in women's sports.

00:26:19.000 And you're going to see them bringing CRT into our schools.

00:26:22.000 Right now, the America you used to know would be rapes because it seemed that we have weak leaders in Washington that do not like America.

00:26:30.000 They seem that like everyone else except America. 0.95

00:26:33.000 And they assume we here in America are terrible people that they want to punish us.

00:26:38.000 And they keep telling us that we got to put up with the pain.

00:26:41.000 I think people can realize this when they see that utility bill.

00:26:44.000 This is what is happening because on Joe Biden or Rafier Wanna watch, this is what's going to happen to everyone.

00:26:52.000 So Herschel, really quick, what's the website for people to support you?

00:26:55.000 The website is teamherschel.com.

00:26:57.000 So go to teamherschel.com and if you can contribute to the campaign or you know people on the doorknob are telling your friends get out and vote.

00:27:05.000 We got to win this election for the great people of Georgia and also for the great people of the United States of America.

00:27:13.000 Look, the Georgia runoff is a straight turnout race.

00:27:16.000 It's that simple.

00:27:17.000 We've got to get our base to turn out.

00:27:19.000 Is that right, Herschel?

00:27:20.000 That is exactly right.

00:27:21.000 We got to get the base to turn out.

00:27:22.000 People got to turn out and vote.

00:27:24.000 Do not think your vote is not going to count because this is turnout.

00:27:28.000 This is people going to the polls.

00:27:29.000 If they love America, if they love, you know, smaller gas prices, they love smaller grocery prices.

00:27:37.000 They love men out of women's sports. 1.00

00:27:40.000 They love securing this border.

00:27:42.000 They love everything of the makeup of the freedoms and liberties we have.

00:27:46.000 We got to get out and turn out and vote.

00:27:47.000 Vote for Herschel Walker.

00:27:49.000 Senator Warner has proven that he is not a conservative.

00:27:52.000 He's proven that he's going to do everything to destroy this country, to destroy Georgia, and he's been doing it. 0.99

00:27:58.000 In two short years, and that's what people need to think right now.

00:28:01.000 If you don't want to get out and vote, think about in less than two short years where we're at right now.

00:28:08.000 And that should make you want to get out and vote.

00:28:10.000 We are good people here, and we can do them better, but we got to do it together.

00:28:14.000 I want to play a piece of tape here and get your reaction of Joy Reid saying that runoffs are designed to hurt black people from winning.

00:28:21.000 Play Cut 64. 0.88

00:28:23.000 Because it feels like they want a puppet.

00:28:25.000 It doesn't seem like they want a scholar. 1.00

00:28:27.000 It will be interesting to see what the motivation to vote now for Herschel Walker to sacrifice all of your principles to vote for a hypocrite, dumb candidate like Herschel Walker. 0.99

00:28:39.000 I think it continues to be insane that you're even having a runoff. 0.99

00:28:43.000 We could do a whole segment.

00:28:44.000 I'm going back on to talk about why there's runoffs because there's a reason for that. 0.97

00:28:48.000 To make sure black people couldn't win. 1.00

00:28:50.000 To make sure black people couldn't win. 1.00

00:28:51.000 Maybe someone should tell Joy Reed who's running in the race, Herschel. 0.97

00:28:55.000 Well, you know what's so strange about that, Charlie?

00:28:58.000 And it's sad that it has become a race issue when it comes to voting.

00:29:03.000 Everything become a race issue where we've had so many great leaders have fought for us to have rights to vote.

00:29:08.000 And we do have a chance to vote.

00:29:10.000 One thing that Joy needs to realize is that in the last election in my primary and also in my general war, African-American and brown people voted than ever voted before.

00:29:21.000 And if there's anyone they know that didn't have the right to vote or not given the right to vote that was black or brown, let me know because I fight for those rights as well.

00:29:30.000 But for people to stand on television or on air and say things like that is disgusting.

00:29:36.000 And at the same time, I love to debate Joy Reed.

00:29:39.000 You know, Senator Warnock, he's a slick talker, smooth dresser guy.

00:29:43.000 But in that debate, I took him to school because he found out a lot of things he didn't know.

00:29:49.000 And I can do the same thing with Joy Reed any time of the day.

00:29:52.000 I think people to sit on TV and to talk as easy to talk.

00:29:55.000 But I've been a man that have worked my whole life.

00:29:57.000 I've built companies.

00:29:58.000 I've signed in front of a paycheck.

00:30:00.000 They've never done any of that.

00:30:02.000 They've never done any of that.

00:30:03.000 They don't know how to do it.

00:30:04.000 I do.

00:30:05.000 And I said, any day of the week, she want to debate.

00:30:07.000 She can show up here and I'll debate her as well.

00:30:10.000 On any subject, she come up with the subject and let's go at it.

00:30:14.000 When is the runoff, Herschel?

00:30:15.000 Tell us.

00:30:16.000 The runoff is December the 6th.

00:30:18.000 So I want everyone, they got early voted.

00:30:20.000 So if you can get out an early vote, which is the 28th, start the 28th.

00:30:25.000 But also December the 6th, make sure you turn out to vote because it's not just turning out, it's turning everything up.

00:30:33.000 We have to win this election to stop Chuck Schuman.

00:30:36.000 We have to win this election to stop the left agenda.

00:30:39.000 We got to win this election to get America back together again.

00:30:42.000 We got to win this election.

00:30:44.000 So I can roll the vote with Brian Kemp, and we're going to head in the right direction to get things right started again.

00:30:49.000 Because I can promise you, Herschel Walker will fight.

00:30:52.000 I know that.

00:30:53.000 I know that for certain.

00:30:55.000 We have got to rally behind Herschel, everybody.

00:30:57.000 It needs to be a nationwide effort.

00:30:59.000 Herschel, thanks so much and keep fighting.

00:31:01.000 And thank you, Ny.

00:31:02.000 Go to teamherschel.com.

00:31:04.000 God bless.

00:31:04.000 Charlie, I love you.

00:31:05.000 Keep fighting.

00:31:06.000 Thank you, man.

00:31:06.000 Have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

00:31:07.000 We're behind you.

00:31:08.000 God bless you, Herschel.

00:31:09.000 Thank you.

00:31:09.000 Thank you, Nah.

00:31:10.000 I could be honest, I have a bad taste in my mouth about this nonsense that's happened in Arizona.

00:31:14.000 It's not sitting well with me, but you got to force yourself to keep going to work and to keep organizing.

00:31:19.000 Man, when I get these emails, Charlie, I couldn't vote first time since 1981 drives me nuts.

00:31:23.000 Okay.

00:31:24.000 But what do we do?

00:31:25.000 We got to find solutions, and then we have a real opportunity to win, to win in Georgia.

00:31:33.000 If every single person in Georgia got the attitude that we are going to get to victory, we win.

00:31:38.000 Donald Trump got 500,000 more Republican votes than Herschel Walker did this midterm.

00:31:46.000 That means there are half a million Georgia voters out there that didn't come out in the midterms.

00:31:53.000 500,000 that came out for Trump, but did not come out for Herschel Walker.

00:32:00.000 Arizona, very similar.

00:32:01.000 There are people still sitting on the sidelines that did not come out and vote.

00:32:06.000 We got to get them out there.

00:32:07.000 We have to have an attitude for victory.

00:32:10.000 I know it's tough.

00:32:11.000 I know a lot of you say, oh, Charlie, what does it matter?

00:32:13.000 Knock it off.

00:32:14.000 We've got to be focused on winning, on victory, so we have some momentum and we can unseat Raphael Warnock.

00:32:23.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:25.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:28.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:32:29.000 God bless.

00:32:34.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk dot com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 24, 2022

The GOP Elites' Kiss of Death with Rachel Bovard and Herschel Walker

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