The Charlie Kirk Show - The GOP Goes For Your Guns

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00:01:58.000 What a difference a day makes.

00:02:01.000 Yesterday, we covered a lot of different topics, and late last night, Senate Republicans tried to pull a fast one and decided to advance a gun control piece of legislation.

00:02:15.000 Remarkably, after John Cornyn was booed at the Texas Republican convention by his own voters, John Cornyn continued to push this piece of legislation.

00:02:27.000 14 Republicans voted yes on gun confiscation legislation yesterday.

00:02:34.000 Roy Blunt from Missouri, Richard Burr from North Carolina, Shelley Moorcapado from West Virginia, Bill Cassidy, of course, Bill Cassidy from Louisiana, Susan Collins from Maine, John Cornyn from Texas, Joni Ernst from Iowa, Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, Mitch McConnell from Kentucky, Lisa Murkowski from Alaska, Rob Portman from Ohio, Mitt Romney from Utah,

00:03:03.000 Tom Tillis from North Carolina, and Todd Young from Indiana.

00:03:08.000 It makes you wonder what exactly is the calculus of these Republican voters.

00:03:13.000 I mean, these Republican politicians and what they're doing.

00:03:16.000 And you don't have to overthink it.

00:03:17.000 They hate you.

00:03:19.000 They don't care about you.

00:03:20.000 They care about their lobbyists.

00:03:22.000 They care about their campaign contributors.

00:03:25.000 They care about the Washington Post.

00:03:27.000 They care about the New York Times.

00:03:30.000 This is what they care about.

00:03:32.000 This is their constituency.

00:03:34.000 Roy Blunt, Richard Burr, Shelly Moore Capito, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, John Cornyn, Joni Ernst, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski, Rob Porton, Mitt Romney, Tom Tillis, and Todd Young.

00:03:47.000 They don't care about what their voters say.

00:03:49.000 They don't care what you say.

00:03:51.000 They actually have contempt for you.

00:03:53.000 So it's even worse than that.

00:03:54.000 It's that deep down, they don't think much of you at all.

00:03:59.000 If they can survive an election or survive a primary, go on cable news, talk a good game every once in a while on some broad conservative consensus issues, they believe they can sneak by.

00:04:11.000 But when it actually matters, when there's a piece of legislation that is up, a red flag law piece of legislation that, by the way, will result in guns being confiscated from vets, from people that have been accused wrongly of having a significant mental health issue.

00:04:30.000 How about people that get labeled wrongly as domestic terrorists, as the Department of Justice has labeled moms and dads that show up to school board meetings domestic terrorists?

00:04:42.000 But this is their constituency.

00:04:45.000 This is who they care about.

00:04:46.000 They care about the New York Times.

00:04:49.000 If they were to think deeply about what they were actually doing, let's take one voter in particular, Lisa Murkowski.

00:04:55.000 If Lisa Murkowski was serious about serving the needs, wants, and interests of her constituents, she'd be wondering why is it that so many Alaskans are committing suicide? 0.99

00:05:05.000 She wouldn't be trying to take people's guns away.

00:05:08.000 She'd be actually trying to solve a serious mental health problem. 1.00

00:05:11.000 Do you think gun control is popular in Iowa?

00:05:15.000 How about Louisiana, Bill Cassidy, or West Virginia, Shelly Moore Capito, or North Carolina for both senators from North Carolina, Tom Tillis and Richard Burr?

00:05:26.000 Why is it that Republicans are always the one that are capitulating and surrendering to the left?

00:05:31.000 When's the last time Democrats surrendered to us?

00:05:34.000 When's the last time Democrats said, you know what?

00:05:36.000 You know, we do need a wall.

00:05:38.000 You're right.

00:05:38.000 We'll give you some money for wall.

00:05:39.000 They don't give an inch because they know that you cannot have a political movement that continually capitulates to the other side.

00:05:47.000 They have the power and we're always giving it to them.

00:05:50.000 What's amazing, though, is the people are with us.

00:05:53.000 But these senators certainly don't feel that way.

00:05:56.000 They feel insulated.

00:05:57.000 They feel safe in their ivory tower.

00:05:59.000 Their smugness, their arrogance, their lack of accountability.

00:06:05.000 And so what we're going to do this entire hour is we're going to talk about what drives a member of the Republican ruling class to have such bitterness towards you.

00:06:16.000 Why is it that John Cornyn, who represents one of the most pro-2A states, Texas, wants to then go poke the eyes of his own voters?

00:06:25.000 What drives someone to do that?

00:06:27.000 What keeps our system intact?

00:06:30.000 Our system is intact largely because of the consent of the governed.

00:06:35.000 Permission.

00:06:38.000 If you ignore your voters, in fact, if you defy your voters openly, the entire system will crumble.

00:06:44.000 You cannot have a system where people go and they fill out their ballots and they go to the voting booth and they say, I want this person to do a certain thing and that person does the exact opposite.

00:06:56.000 It doesn't take an hour worth of analysis for us to say, why would that not possibly work?

00:07:03.000 The idea of representation, a reflection of one's Values is a bedrock principle that the founding fathers put in the greatest political document ever written in the United States Constitution.

00:07:14.000 In fact, the Declaration, which we on this program believe is actually a perfect key, it is a perfect fit within the United States Constitution.

00:07:24.000 And Dr. Larry Arn from Hillsdale College wrote a phenomenal book called The Founder's Key that beautifully articulates this: it actually talks in the Declaration of Independence, it speaks brilliantly about how King George was not properly representing them and that they have a moral right to have the consent of the governed when,

00:07:44.000 in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that have tied them to the other, deriving among the separate but equal stations, the powers of the earth.

00:07:55.000 And it goes on to say they're deriving from the laws of nature and nature's God.

00:08:00.000 In the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson and signed by 56 brave patriots, it talks about consent that King George was not, he was not doing this.

00:08:13.000 He was abusing them.

00:08:15.000 But even more than the abuse was that he never even dared to ask for permission.

00:08:20.000 What do you guys want?

00:08:22.000 What's the direction you want to take things?

00:08:24.000 This was an inspiration for our birthday, an inspiration for July 4th.

00:08:30.000 And so any system that intentionally and in fact smugly and arrogantly defies the constituents that have given them political power, by definition, will crumble.

00:08:43.000 You want to know why the conservative base has such disgust for Washington, D.C., myself included?

00:08:49.000 It's because of theatrics like what we saw last night.

00:08:52.000 They go and talk a good game on cable news.

00:08:54.000 Yeah, we're going to go fight socialism.

00:08:58.000 We're going to go fight critical race theory.

00:09:00.000 Really, when's the last time you did anything to fight critical race theory at West Point?

00:09:02.000 You anything about that?

00:09:04.000 Or we're going to try to stop the invasion of the southern border.

00:09:07.000 Are you going to do another press release about it?

00:09:09.000 Are you going to write another letter?

00:09:10.000 Or are you actually going to do something actively about stopping the invasion of our country? 0.91

00:09:14.000 It's Joe Biden's fault.

00:09:14.000 I get it.

00:09:15.000 But you know what?

00:09:16.000 It's our fault too if we don't secure our own borders.

00:09:18.000 Take responsibility for your actions.

00:09:19.000 Take responsibility for your state.

00:09:21.000 Stop going on TV and talking about it.

00:09:24.000 So the system that we enjoy, boy, is it fragile right now.

00:09:29.000 It's on the precipice of shattering.

00:09:32.000 Why?

00:09:35.000 Well, just ask Roy Blunt, Richard Moore, Shelley Moore Capito, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, John Corn, and Joni Ernst, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski, Rob Portman, Mitt Romney, Tom Tillis, and Todd Young.

00:09:47.000 The 14 Republicans.

00:09:48.000 All the while, by the way, violent crime is going up.

00:09:52.000 We might be on the verge of a summer of riots.

00:09:55.000 We don't know.

00:09:56.000 Hopefully not.

00:09:56.000 I pray not.

00:09:59.000 And we're seeing mass unease.

00:10:02.000 We might be on the verge of food shortages and fuel shortages.

00:10:06.000 And this is when Republicans decide it's a good idea to try to be able to take people's guns away.

00:10:12.000 This is the bill right here.

00:10:14.000 We actually have the bill.

00:10:16.000 We've read the bill.

00:10:18.000 We're going to tell you what's in it.

00:10:21.000 But before we go into the details of it, I want to still talk on a broader picture.

00:10:26.000 What is it about a Republican that makes them so willing to capitulate and to surrender to the Democrats?

00:10:38.000 We call this the gravitational pull of the left.

00:10:42.000 There seems to be this anchoring that is always pulling Republicans to appease the left.

00:10:50.000 And I'll be very honest.

00:10:51.000 When I first started Turning Point USA and when I grew it, at times, I felt that temptation.

00:10:58.000 You kind of feel good about yourself.

00:11:00.000 Yeah, I can build consensus.

00:11:03.000 Can come to the middle and we can work together.

00:11:07.000 There is a kind of a stimulus of self-righteousness that kicks in.

00:11:13.000 I certainly felt that in certain years.

00:11:15.000 Yeah, we can build bridges with people who disagree with us.

00:11:20.000 It's fine.

00:11:20.000 It's incredibly idealistic if you're dealing on a person-to-person basis, but it's foolish, wrong, and dangerous when you're dealing with an entire political movement, especially the Democrat Party that you have in Washington, D.C. What drives it is this willingness to go serve a different constituency.

00:11:41.000 Here I have the New York Times, Roy Blunt, Richard Moore, Shelley Moore Capodo, McConnell, and others, they actually care more about what I have in my hand, the New York Times, than what their own voters say.

00:12:02.000 And what's so incredible about this entire drama of gun control, the drama of gun confiscation, the story and the saga of being able to take people's weapons away through false accusations and miscategorizations of government.

00:12:18.000 What's so interesting about the whole thing is how John Cornyn doubled and tripled down after being rebuked by his voters.

00:12:28.000 We played this tape yesterday, but I want to play it again.

00:12:33.000 It's a tape of John Cornyn speaking at the Texas Republican Convention and being booed at the Texas Republican Convention.

00:12:44.000 Play cut 51.

00:12:53.000 It is simply and purely shocking.

00:12:57.000 He doesn't care about you.

00:13:00.000 He doesn't care about his voters.

00:13:02.000 Any decent person that gets booed by their voters, any decent person that all of a sudden gets rebuked by the very people that gave them political power would stop and say, maybe I'm heading in the wrong direction.

00:13:20.000 And they'd back off.

00:13:23.000 Instead, John Cornyn gets in front of the entire Texas Republican Convention and gets booed.

00:13:31.000 And then he goes back to D.C. and says, I'm going to show those people.

00:13:35.000 I'm going to show the deplorables.

00:13:38.000 I'm in charge, not you.

00:13:41.000 I'm the senator, not you.

00:13:45.000 I'm in charge.

00:13:47.000 I have never, in my 10 years of doing this, seen such an intentional, brazen, and defiant mode of action as what I have just seen from John Cornyn.

00:14:03.000 I'm not saying it's the worst bill I've ever seen.

00:14:05.000 That's not true.

00:14:07.000 I'm not saying that it's the worst vote I've ever seen.

00:14:12.000 That's not the point.

00:14:13.000 The point I'm making is I have never seen in my 10 years of doing this someone so openly rebuked by their voters and then so quickly turning 180 degrees around and saying, I don't care.

00:14:30.000 I've never seen it.

00:14:32.000 Usually, when you show up to a town hall and you confront them, they say, okay, I'm done.

00:14:36.000 I'm going to change my vote.

00:14:39.000 Cornyn doesn't like you. 1.00

00:14:41.000 And he jokes about it, actually.

00:14:43.000 Cornyn hates you. 0.99

00:14:46.000 He knows he'll still get money from his corporate donors.

00:14:48.000 He knows that.

00:14:50.000 Instead of being allied with his voters and be like, maybe there's something I could learn here, he pokes him in the eye and says, no, I'm the senator.

00:15:03.000 You, you're the serf.

00:15:07.000 You're not a citizen.

00:15:09.000 I'm in charge.

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00:16:00.000 The whole system is built on the people being sovereign.

00:16:05.000 It's a big deal.

00:16:08.000 I had an amazing conversation with Bill Federer yesterday, who's a history expert, and the podcast will drop.

00:16:14.000 It will be phenomenal.

00:16:15.000 It's one of the great podcasts I've done ever, and especially in recent memory.

00:16:21.000 And I asked him, I said, does America stand atop history as an exception?

00:16:26.000 He said, without a doubt.

00:16:26.000 I said, why?

00:16:27.000 He said, for many reasons, one of them being the respect of individual rights, that all of us are made in the image of God, and that the people are the sovereign, and that the people in charge-senators, congressmen, governors, mayors, county clerks-they're there because of the permission of their voters.

00:16:43.000 The voters have the power, the people are sovereign.

00:16:48.000 That's a big deal.

00:16:49.000 Now, with sovereignty of the individual comes rights of the individual, the right to speech, the right to defend yourself, the Second Amendment, the right not to have soldiers in your home, the right to privacy, the right against self-incrimination, the right to a speedy trial, the right to representation, the right to a jury of your peers, and then all other rights that are not specified to the states or to the people.

00:17:12.000 The Ninth Amendment, called the Forgotten Amendment, or the Mysterious Amendment.

00:17:17.000 I can't remember what Bork said.

00:17:18.000 Basically, if the rights are not in the Constitution, it doesn't mean that the rights don't exist.

00:17:23.000 I could do a whole show on the Ninth Amendment, but I just basically just went through the Bill of Rights.

00:17:27.000 First, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, one, two, three deals with speech, guns, soldiers, fourth, privacy, fifth against self-incrimination, six, seven, eight around jury, speedy trial, and then nine and ten about rights that are not defined in the Bill of Rights.

00:17:43.000 The Bill of Rights was inspired in the Virginia Declaration, by the Virginia Declaration of Rights that was passed by George Mason.

00:17:51.000 And then the Bill of Rights was actually passed in 1791.

00:17:54.000 The Constitution was passed in 1787.

00:17:57.000 So we kind of conflate the original constitutional principles of the Bill of Rights, but the Bill of Rights was actually something that some of the founders didn't want to put forward, Thomas Jefferson in particular.

00:18:08.000 The whole system is built on the idea that the people are the sovereign, that you're in charge, that the senators serve at the will of you.

00:18:21.000 And boy, have we messed this up.

00:18:23.000 Now, I have said this before, and I don't think it gets taken seriously enough.

00:18:31.000 But I believe that one of the reasons why Roy Blunt, Richard Moore, I'm sorry, Roy Blunt, Richard Burr, Shelly Moore Capito, that's where I said more, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, John Cornyn, and Joni Ernst, Lindsay Graham, Mitch McConnell, Lee Saece, Burkowski, Rob Portman, Mitt Romney, Tom Tillison, Todd Young, why they could be so smug, New York Times, latte-sipping Republicans, ruling class people.

00:18:56.000 Why are they able to get away with it?

00:18:58.000 The 17th Amendment.

00:19:00.000 The 17th Amendment is one of the, in my personal opinion, most disastrous pieces of constitutional amending done in history.

00:19:15.000 The 17th Amendment essentially says that through the popular election of senators, the entire state will vote on senators.

00:19:29.000 Now, that sounds like consent to the govern, doesn't it?

00:19:32.000 I mean, come on, Charlie just went on ranting about how the people are sovereign.

00:19:35.000 It's actually the opposite because it gets rid of a recall mechanism, and it doesn't allow the hyper-local to be able to control the national.

00:19:45.000 So, the way that senators used to be put into office was that the state legislatures would then appoint the senators and send them to D.C. For example, Texans right now have no way to recall John Cornyn because of the 17th Amendment.

00:20:03.000 The 17th Amendment at its core was that the state legislatures will be able to hold the senators responsible and the legislatures would actually have a higher place on the hierarchy.

00:20:15.000 They would be sovereign over the senator.

00:20:18.000 The senator would then report back to the state legislatures.

00:20:22.000 If we still had a 17th Amendment, Republicans would have probably 61 seats right now in Washington, D.C., because we control about 31 state legislatures and 30 governors' mansions. 0.82

00:20:34.000 And John Cornyn playing these games right now, the Texas legislature would be able to convene a special session about possibly replacing and removing John Cornyn.

00:20:44.000 In addition, the 17th Amendment turned senators into national icons.

00:20:48.000 They were never supposed to be these hyper-populist national figures.

00:20:54.000 People like Elizabeth Warren or Corey Booker that are constantly running for president.

00:20:59.000 Senators were supposed to be deliberate, prudent, almost in the shadows statesmen.

00:21:06.000 The 17th Amendment changed all of it, largely because of the movement of William Jennings Bryan.

00:21:11.000 We can talk about him at a later date.

00:21:13.000 Not all populism is bad.

00:21:15.000 We support populism on this program.

00:21:17.000 But certain populist measures in the early 1900s, I believe, did significant damage to you actually being in charge.

00:21:25.000 I believe they were actually anti-populist.

00:21:29.000 I'm sure a lot of you are wondering how you can learn about things that are good, true, and beautiful.

00:21:35.000 Well, I've talked about Hillsdale College for a while, but look, there's a video I want you to see.

00:21:40.000 It's the trailer to Hillsdale College's newest free online course, C.S. Lewis on Christianity.

00:21:46.000 We talk a lot about current events on the show, but some things are more important than today's news.

00:21:51.000 And C.S. Lewis was a master at addressing life's most important questions through vivid language that's entertaining and fascinating.

00:21:58.000 You may know Lewis as the author of The Chronicles of Narnia, but he's also considered the greatest Christian apologist of the 20th century.

00:22:05.000 As a radio host, I appreciate Lewis' ability to communicate an inspired fact.

00:22:09.000 Not a lot of know this, but Mere Christianity, his book, began as a series of radio messages.

00:22:15.000 Hillsdale's free online course covers C.S. Lewis's profound insights into good and evil, prayer and the Bible, and even heaven and hell.

00:22:22.000 And did I mention his course is entirely free?

00:22:25.000 So go watch the trailer video of C.S. Lewis on Christianity and sign up for this new free online course at charlie4hillsdale.com.

00:22:33.000 That's charlieforhillsdale.com.

00:22:35.000 Look, charlieforhillsdale.com.

00:22:37.000 You guys should go there at least once a week.

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00:22:48.000 Again, Charlie, F-O-R, Hillsdale.com.

00:22:54.000 All I have to say, and it's a total detour, I didn't expect saying this, is that how blessed are we as Americans that Ron DeSantis won the 2018 gubernatorial race?

00:23:06.000 Andrew Gillum has just been indicted on wire fraud charges.

00:23:12.000 Andrew Gillum, in a 21-point charge indictment, who nearly won the 2018 race for Florida governor, was charged on charges of conspiracy, wire fraud, and making false statements.

00:23:28.000 He was accused of false and fraudulent promises, as well as money related that they received from 2016, 2019.

00:23:38.000 The money was diverted to a company owned by Lettman Hicks and then funneled to Gillum for personal use.

00:23:45.000 And it says here that in a statement released before the government, Gillum declared his innocence and suggested the case against him was political.

00:23:53.000 He says the government got it wrong today.

00:23:56.000 The allegations cover a time when Gillum was a candidate for governor.

00:24:00.000 He eventually became the party's nominee in 2018, but then lost to Ron DeSantis in less than 33,000 votes.

00:24:07.000 Makes you wonder that did they stumble upon this law enforcement when they found him passed out nearly dead in a hotel room?

00:24:16.000 Just makes you wonder if they stumbled upon this when they seized his electronics when he was popping pills and nearly overdosed in a hotel room.

00:24:25.000 DeSantis only won in 2018 by 32,000 votes.

00:24:32.000 So thank goodness Ron DeSantis won that election.

00:24:36.000 Jeez, how close that would have been.

00:24:38.000 I mean, how terrible that would have been.

00:24:41.000 Okay.

00:24:42.000 I want to go back to this story here about gun control.

00:24:46.000 Let's go to Cut 64, Tucker Carlson going through in great detail why red flag laws are illegal and unconstitutional because it ends due process.

00:24:56.000 Play Cut 64.

00:24:58.000 And in fact, we may soon get red flag laws across the country.

00:25:02.000 So what would that mean if we do?

00:25:04.000 Well, two things you should know.

00:25:05.000 First, red flag laws will not end mass shootings, but red flag laws will end due process.

00:25:13.000 Due process is a simple concept, but it's the key to everything that is good about America.

00:25:18.000 In our system of justice, citizens cannot be punished without first being charged with a crime.

00:25:24.000 Politicians cannot just decide to hurt you, throw you in handcuffs, lock you in jail, seize your property, simply because they don't like how you think or how you vote.

00:25:33.000 No.

00:25:34.000 Before they punish you, they have to go through a formal process in which they describe which specific law you broke and exactly how you broke it.

00:25:42.000 They have to prove it.

00:25:44.000 Now, this is largely thanks to the Fifth Amendment.

00:25:46.000 The Fifth Amendment is an unbelievable gift, a blessing of liberty.

00:25:52.000 In fact, when the Constitution was ratified, the founding fathers said they believed the finger of God was on the Constitution.

00:26:01.000 They didn't say that it had the same sort of divine revelation as the scriptures.

00:26:05.000 That's not something that was said.

00:26:07.000 But they did say that the finger of God was upon them, they believed, or upon the writing of the U.S. Constitution.

00:26:16.000 The Fifth Amendment says the federal government cannot deprive anyone of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.

00:26:28.000 The 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868, continued by using the same 11 words called the Due Process Clause.

00:26:34.000 And so it's repeated.

00:26:37.000 This is an important and necessary protection.

00:26:41.000 Remember, the United States Constitution does not give you rights.

00:26:46.000 John Cornyn does not give you rights.

00:26:49.000 The United States Constitution protects rights that are given to you by God.

00:26:54.000 We believe by God.

00:26:55.000 You might think it's nature.

00:26:56.000 Whatever you believe it is, I believe it's an almighty God.

00:27:00.000 And you have that at birth.

00:27:02.000 So your natural state, and we got a lot of this philosophical basis, this foundation from John Locke in particular, that who are you in the state of nature?

00:27:14.000 In the state of nature, you have consciousness, you have autonomy, you have sovereignty, you have agency, you have choice.

00:27:23.000 And so we call this a self-evident truth.

00:27:28.000 I wonder where we ever heard that before.

00:27:30.000 We hold these truths to be self-evident.

00:27:33.000 John Locke being a primary inspirer.

00:27:35.000 In fact, John Locke had the phrase life, liberty, and property.

00:27:40.000 Thomas Jefferson liked that, and originally it was property, and we changed it to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:27:45.000 I'm kind of glad they changed it to happiness.

00:27:48.000 The ancient view of what happiness was is a lot different than our view of happiness today.

00:27:53.000 Happiness being the highest form of good, according to Aristotle.

00:27:58.000 But as Tucker Carlson beautifully puts it, you cannot be free if the government can take your stuff or your freedoms away without a process to doing so.

00:28:07.000 Now, look, we, let's just be very clear.

00:28:09.000 We believe that some people, of course, should have their stuff and their liberties taken away from them.

00:28:14.000 Child rapists, murderers, people that burn down buildings.

00:28:21.000 You have violated the social contract, and therefore the state, while going through the same process, you get a lawyer, you get an opportunity to defend yourself, you get an opportunity to submit evidence, you get an ability to cross-examine witnesses.

00:28:37.000 Did you burn down the Wendy's or did you not burn down the Wendy's?

00:28:40.000 Where were you?

00:28:41.000 There's a process to go through all this.

00:28:41.000 What's your alibi?

00:28:43.000 And sometimes, yes, the government gets these things wrong.

00:28:46.000 Yes, sometimes the government has malicious prosecution like they did against Lieutenant General Michael Flynn.

00:28:52.000 But let me be very clear: the prosecutions of Flynn and Manafort and all these people would have been far worse if there was not due process, if there wasn't the ability to have a lawyer present or an attorney to be able to cross-examine the state.

00:29:04.000 So the whole premise of our government is built on you being sovereign and the government being a creation of your sovereignty and of your permission.

00:29:15.000 So when it comes to red flag laws, the question is, does a red flag law violate due process rights?

00:29:24.000 Well, the Washington Post said a couple weeks ago, no, red flag gun laws don't violate due process rights.

00:29:31.000 Such laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders, are popular and are embraced by some Republican politicians.

00:29:39.000 But some gun rights activists say they violate the 5th and 14th Amendment.

00:29:42.000 So I've actually not read this article prior to going through it.

00:29:45.000 So we're going to go through it in real time.

00:29:46.000 You can kind of see how I process information.

00:29:49.000 But let me just first pick out one thing here.

00:29:52.000 Extreme risk protection orders.

00:29:56.000 Now, that sounds rare, doesn't it?

00:29:58.000 How many times in the last couple of years coming out of COVID did you hear this idea of, well, we're only going to use our power rarely and we're not going, it's an extreme.

00:30:07.000 It's an emergency.

00:30:08.000 Anytime the government wants power, when they say that it will not last long and it won't go after a big group of people, do not give them that power.

00:30:18.000 You know, growing up, I used to be very pro-Patriot Act.

00:30:22.000 I've said this many times on this program.

00:30:24.000 I used to tell my, you know, let me think when the Patriot passed.

00:30:28.000 Patriot probably passed in 2003, 2004.

00:30:30.000 Actually, I think it was like robustly passed in 05, 06, whatever.

00:30:34.000 We'll find the date.

00:30:34.000 It was after 9-11.

00:30:35.000 It was right in that kind of period of time.

00:30:37.000 And I remember being in seventh grade defending the Patriot Act.

00:30:40.000 Again, it was kind of an inarticulate.

00:30:42.000 It wasn't really 2001 it passed.

00:30:43.000 Wow.

00:30:44.000 Okay.

00:30:44.000 I think it got renewed later.

00:30:46.000 Anyway, the point is, I remember being in sixth or seventh grade talking about how we need the Patriot Act because terrorists are bad.

00:30:52.000 And a liberal at the time, and I remember who it was, he's far from a liberal now.

00:30:56.000 He's a leftist communist dictator autocrat type.

00:30:59.000 But anyway, he said to me, he said, how do you define a terrorist?

00:31:04.000 And I had some sort of clumsy response.

00:31:06.000 I didn't think very deeply about it back in sixth grade.

00:31:09.000 Yeah, okay, it got renewed in 2005.

00:31:13.000 Got it.

00:31:13.000 Thank you.

00:31:14.000 And so basically, I said, well, it's just kind of, you just kind of know what a terrorist is.

00:31:18.000 It's self-evident.

00:31:19.000 And is it?

00:31:20.000 If there's anything we've learned over the last year, it's that the government will use a broad definition basis and label as many people as they possibly can with a moving target.

00:31:32.000 And then they'll be able to have that as the necessary prerequisite to then take your rights away. 0.97

00:31:39.000 Okay.

00:31:39.000 So the Washington Post writes, this is Jake Charles.

00:31:44.000 Red flag laws, which allow guns to be temporarily taken away from people who pose a risk of harm to themselves or others, are one of the few gun control regulations that have bipartisan support.

00:31:53.000 Roy Blunt, quote, I'm generally inclined to think that some kind of red flag law is a good idea. 0.97

00:31:59.000 Key senators have told reporters that an agreement could be reached soon on legislation that would include incentives to have states pass more laws.

00:32:06.000 Now, so one of the arguments they make is like, oh, it's an incentive.

00:32:09.000 You don't have to do that.

00:32:11.000 The last time we have seen, I shouldn't say the last time, one of the most popular and effective incentive structures we've ever seen is why the drinking age in every single state in America is 21.

00:32:22.000 So senators realized, I think this is back in the 80s, I think they changed this, is that drinking ages used to be 18, if that.

00:32:29.000 And so the federal government realized and recognized that if they came in and said that we're going to raise the drinking age to 21, it might not be constitutional and it might go back down to the states.

00:32:39.000 So they found a back door.

00:32:41.000 They said, you are not going to get federal highway funds unless you have the drinking age to 21.

00:32:47.000 1984.

00:32:48.000 That's exactly right.

00:32:49.000 They passed the Minimum Drinking Age Act.

00:32:51.000 But what happened in 1986, after all this fight, they said, okay, you're going to lose 10% of your federal highway funds if you don't raise the drinking age to 21.

00:33:01.000 And this is exactly what they're trying to do to red flag laws.

00:33:04.000 They're going to say, okay, you don't get all this money unless you have red flag laws. 0.51

00:33:08.000 Basically, depriving states that actually protect the Second Amendment of federal funding if you do not follow this in a certain way.

00:33:16.000 Okay.

00:33:18.000 So the Washington Post writes here, there is strong popular support for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk laws.

00:33:26.000 In both parties, more than a dozen states have adopted them.

00:33:28.000 I actually do agree with this.

00:33:30.000 I think there is strong support because they sound reasonable when in fact they're not.

00:33:36.000 Social science research suggests they work most strikingly in preventing gun suicides.

00:33:40.000 Okay, social science research.

00:33:42.000 I'm sorry, Washington Post.

00:33:44.000 You're going to have to be a little bit more specific than just saying social science research.

00:33:48.000 I've heard to quote unquote trust the science a lot.

00:33:51.000 One of the reasons why I don't follow the science is that the science usually follows the money.

00:33:58.000 Of course, I follow science, but not the science, because that's the scientific industrial complex.

00:34:03.000 Anyway, their study might be right, but I'm a skeptic.

00:34:06.000 The article continues here.

00:34:09.000 I want to read this one piece.

00:34:10.000 We should not once again make the mistake of blaming the Constitution for inaction on gun laws.

00:34:15.000 The structure of extreme risk laws is entirely consistent with not only the Second Amendment, but also the Constitution guarantee of due process.

00:34:23.000 So I want anyone listening right now that might support red flag laws to answer the following questions.

00:34:29.000 Have you ever gotten in a work dispute?

00:34:30.000 Do you have a neighbor who doesn't like you?

00:34:32.000 Do you have a family member that won't talk to you?

00:34:34.000 Do you have a social media troll that calls you bad names?

00:34:37.000 Have you ever gone in for mental health examination?

00:34:40.000 Do you take antidepressants?

00:34:42.000 Do you have Trump signs in your front yard or front lawn?

00:34:45.000 Any one of those things could potentially be used in a quote-unquote flag by someone who doesn't like you to deprive you of your Second Amendment rights.

00:34:53.000 Now, if you think I'm exaggerating, look into the details of it.

00:34:56.000 Look into actually how these laws are written.

00:34:59.000 They're written to be able to have the accuser have more rights than the accused.

00:35:03.000 And that is a violation of the Fifth and Fourth Amendment and the moral prerogative that you have to be able to own weapons and defend yourself against other criminals and against potential tyranny.

00:35:14.000 These laws are too subjective in nature.

00:35:20.000 Look, free speech, religious liberty, and the Second Amendment.

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00:37:24.000 Let's go to another piece of sound here.

00:37:26.000 Jim Jordan, cut 61 on how red flag laws will be voted on and how they'll enact the power of the government to take your guns away in a hearing that you're not allowed to be at.

00:37:34.000 No due process.

00:37:35.000 Play cut 61.

00:37:37.000 Tomorrow.

00:37:39.000 Tomorrow they're bringing the red flag law, so-called red flag law to the floor.

00:37:44.000 Someone who doesn't like you can file a complaint within 24 hours.

00:37:49.000 There is a hearing that you're not allowed to be at.

00:37:52.000 You can't confront your accuser and they can take away your Second Amendment liberty.

00:37:56.000 God-granted right to self-protection.

00:37:58.000 While violent crime is going up, we might be seeing food and fuel shortages and we might be on the precipice of violent riots.

00:38:05.000 They want the ability to be able to disarm you instantaneously.

00:38:08.000 Someone that doesn't like me, yeah, if red flag laws ever come to Arizona, I'm going to have these hearings are going to be happening all the time.

00:38:14.000 And they might just come and take your guns away without even knowing about it.

00:38:18.000 Okay, let's go to Cut 57.

00:38:21.000 Tucker Carlson with the immediate reaction to John Corn and the Mitch McConnell last evening, play cut 57.

00:38:27.000 The Senate is voting to advance a so-called gun control bill that is in fact a law that would allow police to confiscate firearms unconstitutionally and legally from American citizens who have not been charged, much less convicted of a crime.

00:38:43.000 Now, many Republican senators, such as Joni Ernst and Shelly Moore Caputo, are reportedly voting yes on the bill.

00:38:48.000 It's hard to believe that's true, but apparently it is.

00:38:50.000 Senator John Cornyn, the lead Republican negotiator who has gone far left in recent years, is currently celebrating on the Senate floor because, again, only Ukrainians are allowed to have guns.

00:39:01.000 Corny was just seen shaking hands with Chuck Schumer, his close friend.

00:39:04.000 Is he representing the voters of Texas?

00:39:06.000 No.

00:39:07.000 But apparently, John Cornyn isn't just stopping with guns.

00:39:09.000 He has his sights now on immigration.

00:39:12.000 Corny was just seen smiling while speaking to Democratic Senator Alex Padilla, saying, First guns, now it's immigration.

00:39:20.000 Has there ever been a greater, more brazen sellout of any group of voters than what Republican senators Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, and the rest are doing right now?

00:39:32.000 Talk about a subversion of democracy. 0.86

00:39:33.000 If they keep this up, the system will collapse.

00:39:35.000 You have to represent the interests of your voters.

00:39:38.000 That's why you're there.

00:39:40.000 They don't care about their voters and they never have.

00:39:43.000 Are you seeing a psychologist for anxiety?

00:39:45.000 Red flag.

00:39:46.000 A neighbor doesn't like you?

00:39:47.000 Red flag.

00:39:48.000 Get in a fight with a neighbor?

00:39:49.000 Red flag.

00:39:50.000 Ex-girlfriend accuse you of domestic violence, even though there's no evidence to support the claim?

00:39:54.000 Red flag.

00:39:56.000 Get in a fight with someone on social media, say something charged?

00:39:59.000 Red flag.

00:40:01.000 Your Republicans are giving power to the government to take away your weapons without you even being there while violent crime is going up.

00:40:12.000 Just for a recap: Roy Blunt, Richard Moore, Shelley Moore Capitol, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, John Cornyn, Joni Ernst, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski, Rob Portman, Mitt Romney, Tom Tillis, Todd Young.

00:40:22.000 Now, I don't think it's going to make a difference, but it certainly is cathartic.

00:40:27.000 Please just go contact them if you're a constituent in one of these states.

00:40:30.000 Send them an email.

00:40:32.000 Be respectful.

00:40:34.000 Be polite, but be direct and be focused and tell them that they have betrayed their voters.

00:40:40.000 If you live in Missouri, North Carolina, West Virginia, Louisiana, Maine, Texas, Iowa, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alaska, Ohio, Utah, or Indiana, contact your senators and say, What are you doing?

00:40:56.000 We're at the verge of losing our republic.

00:40:58.000 We might see food and fuel shortages at any moment.

00:41:03.000 And you're going out of your way to go give the Democrats a win?

00:41:07.000 As Greta Thunberg would say, how dare you? 1.00

00:41:12.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:41:13.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:41:16.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:41:17.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 22, 2022

The GOP Goes For Your Guns

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