The Charlie Kirk Show - November 10, 2023


The GOP is a Mess. But So Are the Democrats


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Kurt Schlichter and Andrew Colvet discuss why the Democratic Party might be facing an existential dilemma. They also discuss abortion, a sticky topic, and bring on Rabbi Michael Barclay to give us an update on the tragic death of 69-year-old Jewish man Paul Kessler.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 This is Andrew Colvet.
00:00:03.000 We bring in Kurt Schlichter, who holds nothing back.
00:00:06.000 We talk about, hey, this is a palate cleanser, guys.
00:00:09.000 You're going to enjoy this.
00:00:10.000 What is going wrong in the Democrat Party?
00:00:12.000 We talk a lot about what's wrong in the Republican Party, but hey, this is a good moment to reflect on how the Democrat Party might just be facing an existential dilemma.
00:00:22.000 We also talk about abortion, sticky topic, important topic.
00:00:25.000 And then we bring on Rabbi Michael Barclay out of Westlake Village to give us an update on the tragic death of 69-year-old Jewish man Paul Kessler and why we need to just hold back, hold back.
00:00:38.000 We can trust the people working on this. 0.95
00:00:40.000 And then he gives us an update: what it's like to be a rabbi in this day and age when there's so much pro-Hamas garbage circulating everywhere.
00:00:49.000 This is an important, powerful episode.
00:00:51.000 Thanks for listening.
00:00:52.000 Buckle up. 0.96
00:00:53.000 Here we go.
00:00:54.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:56.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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00:01:35.000 Kurt Schlichter, senior columnist with townhall.com, lawyer, resident, scholarly expert on many things and flamethrower.
00:01:43.000 Extraordinaire.
00:01:44.000 Kurt, welcome to the show.
00:01:45.000 Hey, thanks for having me.
00:01:46.000 You've caught me in my middle-aged long-haired guy vibe.
00:01:50.000 Are you in a bathroom?
00:01:52.000 I work at college.
00:01:53.000 That looks like I'm so unkempt they might take me for a professor.
00:01:57.000 Yeah, I was going to say, you'd probably be lecturing a 200-large UCLA course today.
00:02:03.000 Why don't we just throw you in, see if it'll work?
00:02:05.000 Hey, Kurt, we spend so much of our time complaining and complaining and complaining about the Republican Party, about the neocons, the neoliberals.
00:02:16.000 You have a new piece in Town Hall that I thought was a great palate cleanser.
00:02:22.000 You said to think the GOP has problems, meet the Democrats.
00:02:26.000 And actually, I pulled some of this Gavin Newsome tape that I hinted at last hour, and I might get into it with you as a fellow Californian living in occupied territory.
00:02:36.000 Break down the divide because it really is a chasm in the current Democrat Party.
00:02:43.000 What's going on?
00:02:45.000 Why are they so chaotic at the moment?
00:02:48.000 Well, look, both parties are in transition, Andrew.
00:02:51.000 I mean, the Republican Party is in a major transition.
00:02:54.000 Our coalitions are shifting and changing.
00:02:56.000 And that's, you know, that's normal.
00:02:58.000 That's what happens at coalitions.
00:02:59.000 They're not frozen in time. 0.99
00:03:01.000 I mean, you don't see a lot of Whigs wandering around. 1.00
00:03:04.000 Okay. 1.00
00:03:04.000 Parties come, parties go, they change. 1.00
00:03:07.000 And we know very well how the Republican Party has changed.
00:03:12.000 And we saw it in the debate last night.
00:03:14.000 You had Nikki Haley, who's the cutting edge of 2004.
00:03:17.000 You had Ron DeSantis, who represents a new voice.
00:03:20.000 So does Donald Trump.
00:03:22.000 So does Vivek to some extent.
00:03:25.000 And it's challenging.
00:03:28.000 It can be frustrating.
00:03:30.000 And now imagine you're a Democrat. 0.88
00:03:32.000 You've got half the party, right, is old school Democrats, many of them Jewish. 0.92
00:03:40.000 And you have another half who literally wants to murder the first half. 0.88
00:03:46.000 And that is kind of a problem.
00:03:49.000 I mean, here we have.
00:03:51.000 I wish I was joking.
00:03:52.000 It's horrible. 0.99
00:03:53.000 And speaking of California, yesterday at the Holocaust Museum, they were showing footage of the Hamas atrocities and a bunch of Jewish Americans on an American street were attacked by a bunch of scumbag Palestinian supporters. 0.99
00:04:10.000 In our country, Jewish people aren't safe to walk the street. 0.98
00:04:13.000 Thank you, Gavin Newsome. 1.00
00:04:14.000 That's the America you've helped make, or at least the California you've helped make.
00:04:18.000 So, I mean, it is a serious problem.
00:04:23.000 It is also vexing for the Democrats.
00:04:26.000 You have Joe Biden who's trying to balance these two elements of the party, and one party's saying, no ceasefire, and the other is saying, yes, he's fire and get murdered.
00:04:37.000 And, you know, so he's not calling for a ceasefire right.
00:04:40.000 He's calling for a pause, which involves Israel ceasing firing.
00:04:46.000 So I'm not sure how that's actually different.
00:04:50.000 As I say in the piece, it's hard to walk a tightrope for a guy who's has trouble walking on a sidewalk.
00:04:57.000 Yeah.
00:04:58.000 No, and Kurt, what's interesting about this, and I think why your piece has real merit, is because we saw recently that Joe Biden's poll numbers amongst Democrats are down 11% since October 7th, since the terrible massacre of Jewish civilians inside Israel.
00:05:18.000 Now, 11%, that's massive.
00:05:21.000 When you're talking about a race that might come down to a couple thousand votes in Cook County, might come down to a couple thousand votes in Maricopa County.
00:05:29.000 That is a big deal.
00:05:31.000 This is why you have David Axelrod going out front saying, hey, we might need to pull the ripcord here.
00:05:36.000 This is why you have Vivek on the debate stage, like begging them to pull Joe Biden, which I actually take umbrage with because, no, we want Joe Biden to be the guy right now.
00:05:45.000 He's completely beatable.
00:05:47.000 But this represents an existential threat to the coalition.
00:05:51.000 This is something else you talk about in your piece.
00:05:53.000 So I think people get confused when we talk about coalitions.
00:05:56.000 The American system, we build the coalition before election day, then we vote.
00:06:01.000 In the European system, UK, whatever, they build the coalition after the votes.
00:06:06.000 You get these pure ideological parties, but then they still have to come together and rule.
00:06:10.000 We do this before the election.
00:06:12.000 That coalition within Joe Biden's party is a very, very shaky ground between the progressives, the far left, and yeah, like these blue dog, moderate Democrats that are still hanging around.
00:06:25.000 What is, if you are a Democrat consultant right now and you're talking to Joe Biden, you're in that room, what do you tell him to do?
00:06:33.000 Well, first thing I do is tell them, you know, calm down.
00:06:36.000 We will get you to your Matlock rerun.
00:06:38.000 Just let me finish.
00:06:40.000 Here's your world's original.
00:06:44.000 Look, I don't know how you breach this divide.
00:06:48.000 Some divides are unbreachable.
00:06:51.000 And it is going to be very tough because you really have two completely competing points of view.
00:07:01.000 Look, and it's existential.
00:07:04.000 You have people who say, no, I literally want to murder everybody who looks like you or shares your religion.
00:07:12.000 That's kind of hard to compromise with.
00:07:13.000 What are you going to say? 1.00
00:07:14.000 Well, you can kill half of us. 0.99
00:07:16.000 The Republican part, we've got problems. 0.88
00:07:18.000 I mean, Donald Trump and DeSantis don't get along.
00:07:21.000 Nikki Haley is there, Vivex doing his thing.
00:07:25.000 But at the end of the day, I look at that stage.
00:07:27.000 I can vote for any of those guys.
00:07:29.000 There are guys that I like more, guys that I like less.
00:07:33.000 I mean, presidents of not really me, but I could live with it.
00:07:38.000 See, we're biggies of the big train today.
00:07:42.000 We think he did a good thing for the country.
00:07:43.000 But I understand, actually, it might be a generational thing, Kurt, where, you know, you're a little bit more old school, right?
00:07:49.000 Maybe you want to get back to To some more of the gentlemanly policy, no, that's no, policy-wise, no, no, no.
00:08:00.000 I look, I agreed with some of what Vivek actually had to say.
00:08:04.000 Yeah, Rona's terrible. 1.00
00:08:05.000 I know I've been saying that for uh, you know, a year.
00:08:09.000 Um, yeah, the debate, uh, the debate moderators are often biased.
00:08:13.000 Yeah, I got that.
00:08:14.000 Although I thought they handled it well yesterday, I think that was the calming influence of Hugh Hewitt.
00:08:19.000 I think Vivek's style was much more, look at me, I'm going to get RTs.
00:08:25.000 You know, when somebody asks Vivek a question about how do you plan to beat Trump and why are you better?
00:08:31.000 I'd like to know that he took another tangent and I felt annoyed because I don't like when people don't answer my question.
00:08:38.000 I'm a lawyer, it bothers me.
00:08:41.000 A lot of its style.
00:08:42.000 Vivek reminds me of the guy who's still learning, whose life changes every time he reads a new book.
00:08:48.000 You know, hey, I just read, you know, Atlas shrugged and it changed everything and he won't shut up.
00:08:54.000 I think you're right.
00:08:55.000 I think you're right.
00:08:56.000 I think a lot of people, I think a lot of people get frustrated with Vivek for some of those reasons.
00:09:00.000 I think that's why that, you know, chat GPT line kind of hit.
00:09:06.000 I will say, though, that, you know, I obviously, you know, we're Team Trump on this show, but I do think Vivek has contributed something really powerful to the movement.
00:09:17.000 And he has mainstreamed the rebellion against the sort of establishment entrenched corruption that we all rail against.
00:09:25.000 I mean, I will tell you, Andrew, I was mainstreaming that rebellion 15 years ago.
00:09:34.000 I was fighting political rights.
00:09:36.000 But it's breaking through.
00:09:37.000 And it's like a party, Vivek, but you didn't throw it.
00:09:43.000 And you don't get to sit there with a clipboard at the velvet rope saying who gets in and out, Vivek.
00:09:49.000 Look, I look at Vivek and I think that there are very few people on earth who I think would have benefited more by a tour in the Marines as a young officer than Vivek, because I think Vivek desperately needs somebody to say, I'm your butt down and put your nose there grindstone.
00:10:09.000 I think he's so smart.
00:10:10.000 He's had it easy and he strikes me as one of those guys who's super smart, but not wise yet.
00:10:17.000 And that's what I'd like to see from him.
00:10:20.000 I don't hate Vivek.
00:10:21.000 I just think he's not ready to be president.
00:10:26.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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00:11:28.000 Kurt, let's talk about abortion.
00:11:30.000 Now, we talked about the first segment.
00:11:33.000 We just talked about the first segment about the problems in the Democrat Party, which there are many, and it really is going to be an existential crisis going into 2024.
00:11:42.000 Their answer, I asked you a question.
00:11:44.000 I thought about it over the break.
00:11:45.000 What's their answer to the fact that half their party wants to kill the other half?
00:11:49.000 As you eloquently stated, their answer is to just probably ignore it, right?
00:11:54.000 Am I right?
00:11:54.000 They want to put all the focus on the abortion question.
00:11:59.000 Yes, let's talk about something else.
00:12:01.000 Let's distract. 0.78
00:12:03.000 That will not last forever.
00:12:05.000 But Republicans do have an abortion problem. 1.00
00:12:08.000 I'm not sure how big it is.
00:12:09.000 And I think it may be localized in certain areas.
00:12:13.000 Unfortunately, a lot of those areas are battlegrounds.
00:12:17.000 You know, for 50 years, Republicans said we want to send this abortion question back to the states.
00:12:23.000 Then we finally did that. 0.57
00:12:26.000 And promptly, a bunch of Republicans said, okay, now let's have a federal law that does XYZ.
00:12:32.000 And Tim Scott went on at length about that last night, how he thinks it's a great idea.
00:12:38.000 And I found myself, and, you know, except for pizza and cheeseburgers, I never agree with Chris Christie about anything.
00:12:46.000 Chris Christie said, wait a minute, we've been saying X for 50 years.
00:12:50.000 And then as soon as we get in a position to deliver it, we switch it out for Y. Look, I think the best Republicans are going to do, because this is an issue that really, really animates a lot of Democrats for reasons that are unclear to me, but they don't have to get my permission to care about what they care about.
00:13:14.000 We have to have an answer.
00:13:15.000 And our answer has to be: each state's going to decide for itself.
00:13:21.000 At the federal level, we are not going to.
00:13:23.000 And it doesn't make me happy.
00:13:24.000 Most people are much, much more liberal on abortion than I am.
00:13:28.000 But you know what?
00:13:30.000 We all get votes.
00:13:32.000 And here in California, it's open season on kids until they get their driver's license.
00:13:37.000 In Oklahoma, you know, there's essentially no abortion. 1.00
00:13:41.000 Different places are going to have to do different things.
00:13:43.000 And we need Republicans to be able to talk about that.
00:13:46.000 The problem with Republicans is abortion is an ugly subject.
00:13:50.000 They don't want to talk about it.
00:13:51.000 I don't blame them.
00:13:52.000 I don't want to talk about it either.
00:13:53.000 I'd rather be talking about anything else right now.
00:13:56.000 But we've got to talk about it.
00:13:57.000 We've got to talk to the voters.
00:13:58.000 And you have to be very clear with them.
00:14:01.000 And if your position is, you know, 15 weeks, exceptions for life of the mother, rape and incest, then you need to say that over and over again.
00:14:09.000 And frankly, if I was a candidate being bombarded with, you know, Kurt's never going to, Kurt's going to force your child to bear her rapist children, I would be a candidate.
00:14:19.000 I would sit there with that ad playing on a TV. 0.91
00:14:21.000 I turn the TV off and go, that is a lie. 0.84
00:14:24.000 That is nonsense. 0.86
00:14:26.000 I strongly support exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother.
00:14:32.000 I support a ban after 15 weeks, no late-term abortions. 0.85
00:14:37.000 That is the truth.
00:14:38.000 Don't believe the lies.
00:14:40.000 Women are not going to be locked up and thrown into jail and given the death penalty. 1.00
00:14:44.000 That is nonsense and that is stupid. 1.00
00:14:47.000 And you just get out there and you confront it. 1.00
00:14:50.000 I want to connect two of the, I think you're right.
00:14:52.000 I think it goes one step further, though.
00:14:54.000 And this is if we had a functioning RNC, this is the things we'd be doing.
00:14:58.000 Now, I'm hearing that Arizona is going to be putting an abortion initiative on the ballot, right?
00:15:03.000 Lining up for 2024 because that's that's too much.
00:15:08.000 Absolutely.
00:15:09.000 So why is the RNC not doing the exact same thing and putting counter initiatives that read the right way, that don't evoke the same panic within the abortion-loving left or the independents that just kind of want that the oh crap clause in life?
00:15:26.000 Why are we not being way more upfront as a party on this? 0.98
00:15:31.000 Because Rona McDaniel is grossly incompetent. 1.00
00:15:34.000 She's gone seven cycles of total failure. 1.00
00:15:38.000 Look, the big hit on Donald Trump is personnel decisions.
00:15:41.000 Donald Trump put her in as chair and he kept her in last January.
00:15:47.000 And I know that because I watched his chief of staff with my eyes right here, not hearsay, out lobbying for Rona McDaniel.
00:15:57.000 She is a complete failure. 0.99
00:15:59.000 She is incompetent. 1.00
00:16:02.000 I hope she's only incompetent because you literally, statistically speaking, in seven cycles in the seven years, she's never had a good cycle. 0.89
00:16:12.000 Statistically, you would think you would have one if only by accident.
00:16:16.000 Yeah, I think we're in complete agreement here and we're calling for Donald Trump removed.
00:16:21.000 Ronna McDaniel officially.
00:16:23.000 Thanks, Kurt.
00:16:24.000 We appreciate it.
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00:17:28.000 Southern California story that many of you might have heard about.
00:17:33.000 Tragic death of an elderly Jewish man, Paul Kessler, in Westlake Village.
00:17:39.000 A murder.
00:17:40.000 It's how I describe it, even though the press has been very reluctant.
00:17:44.000 I think it's safe to say in describing it as so.
00:17:48.000 Joining me right now is Rabbi Michael Barclay of the Temple Nair Simcha.
00:17:53.000 Simca?
00:17:54.000 Rabbi, I apologize on the pronunciation.
00:17:56.000 In Westlake Village, you are a good friend of this show's very close friend, Rob McCoy.
00:18:03.000 Apparently, you are his second favorite rabbi.
00:18:06.000 Tell me about this story.
00:18:08.000 It captured the national headlines.
00:18:12.000 We're shocked by it.
00:18:14.000 I wish I was more shocked given all the recent news of the anti-Semitism, blatant anti-Semitism in so many corners of this country.
00:18:22.000 What's the latest?
00:18:23.000 What do we know?
00:18:24.000 Tell us the story.
00:18:27.000 The circumstances are really clear.
00:18:29.000 And first of all, and most importantly, people need to keep their mouths shut and just wait.
00:18:34.000 I hate to say that, but we really, really need to do that.
00:18:38.000 Chief of police, Jeremy Paris, and Ventura County Sheriff, Jim Freihoff, are amazing men.
00:18:44.000 I know them both well personally.
00:18:46.000 They are men of integrity, and they are making sure that justice will happen in the right way.
00:18:52.000 What happened is there for the last few weeks, there have been on a large intersection, there have been pro-Palestinian demonstrations.
00:18:58.000 And Paul Kessler, Blessed Memory, went to go counter-protest on Sunday, and he died on Monday.
00:19:07.000 That's what we can say and what we know for sure.
00:19:10.000 There are conflicting reports, and that's part of the challenge.
00:19:14.000 The reports range from he tripped and fell after a verbal altercation to that he was having a verbal altercation that became physical and was hit and then landed on the concrete.
00:19:25.000 And in either event, it was actually the fall of concrete that killed him.
00:19:30.000 He was conscious when the police were able to interview him.
00:19:34.000 They do a suspect.
00:19:35.000 They will probably be announcing something soon.
00:19:38.000 But what we need to do is kind of stay calm and let them do their job.
00:19:42.000 I wouldn't say this in other places necessarily, but I know these two men.
00:19:47.000 They will do the right thing.
00:19:49.000 And the challenge is because there's conflicting witness reports.
00:19:54.000 What we don't want to have happen is a charge is made on a suspect that can't be backed up, and the suspect is either acquitted or convicted.
00:20:04.000 And either way, a riot happens because it wasn't really clear.
00:20:07.000 So they're doing their job, and they're really, really good at it, Andrew.
00:20:10.000 They really are.
00:20:11.000 And I mean, Chief of Police, Chief Police Jeremy, is actually coming to an event we're doing tonight that we planned two weeks ago in honor of today.
00:20:20.000 I don't know if you know, today is actually the anniversary, the 85th anniversary of the Start of the Holocaust with a night called Kristaldah.
00:20:26.000 I wrote an Army right about it.
00:20:28.000 They're really, really good guys, and we need to support them and give them a little space.
00:20:33.000 They're going to do the right thing, and they're going to make sure it's done right because we don't want this to become a spark that becomes an inferno both here and then across the country.
00:20:42.000 I appreciate you're being cautious there.
00:20:45.000 I think it's an important skill, a discipline that we all need to exercise as much as possible.
00:20:51.000 Now, I hear what you're saying, and I do trust local authorities.
00:20:55.000 I've heard it from Rob.
00:20:56.000 I've heard it from you.
00:20:57.000 I do believe that they are going to do the right thing here.
00:20:59.000 But we do know this much, right, Rabbi?
00:21:02.000 That it was a blow to the mouth with a megaphone, correct?
00:21:06.000 During these competing protests, or do we not even know that much?
00:21:10.000 What we know is that there was blood force to the side of his head and blood force to the back of his head that came from him landing on concrete, and that that blow to the back of the head is what ultimately killed him and determined, you know, became a brain injury and killed him.
00:21:24.000 We know that.
00:21:25.000 But there are conflicting reports from witnesses ranging from it was just verbal to he was hit in the head by a megaphone.
00:21:34.000 And we need to let that play out.
00:21:39.000 It's not about being cautious.
00:21:41.000 It's about being smart.
00:21:43.000 I think we should emulate the IDF.
00:21:45.000 The IDF is brilliant.
00:21:47.000 They pause and wait. 0.75
00:21:48.000 They knew 30 seconds after that hospital was blown up that it was from Hamas. 0.55
00:21:53.000 Yet they waited a while before they were able to totally prove it 100%. 0.88
00:21:58.000 The police are emulating that pattern of behavior.
00:22:00.000 Let's just, they're going to do the right thing.
00:22:02.000 I can guarantee you on that.
00:22:04.000 But I think it's really important that we don't say with authority right now that Paul was hit in the head by a megaphone.
00:22:13.000 There's certainly confidence in that.
00:22:15.000 So let's just.
00:22:15.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it's yeah, and I and again, I appreciate the, I mean, because there's reports even by very reputable sites right now.
00:22:25.000 Free Beacon has a report on the alleged assailant.
00:22:28.000 I'll leave that out of respect for how you're trying to guide the way we all approach this story.
00:22:34.000 But I want to turn our attention to another Southern California story.
00:22:39.000 This is fights erupt outside of the Museum of Tolerance.
00:22:43.000 I'm sure you know that location well after a screaming or screening of a film on Hamas.
00:22:48.000 Now, this was the GoPro footage that the IDF obtained, and then they, because there was so much chatter online, really conspiracy theories that different atrocities did not in fact happen, that the Israeli government was lying to the press.
00:23:04.000 So they actually provided this to the press.
00:23:07.000 Then Gal Gadak gets this footage.
00:23:09.000 She screens it at the Museum of Tolerance.
00:23:11.000 This is actually footage from last night of this fight breaking out, again, between competing, I guess, protest groups, pro-Israel, pro-Hamas, or pro-Palestine groups, however they want to describe themselves.
00:23:25.000 Rabbi, you have to be watching this in horror at the way that the world has in so many pockets in Los Angeles and Southern California across the Ivy Leagues, how they have coalesced this anger and this energy into outright Jew hatred in so many respects. 0.54
00:23:44.000 What is it like being a rabbi right here in Southern California and watching that footage? 0.75
00:23:50.000 Probably very similar to the way it is being a rabbi anywhere in the world.
00:23:55.000 And I think we need to take back the narrative and start getting honest.
00:23:58.000 There's no such thing as Palestine.
00:24:00.000 There is no history of Palestine, number one. 0.96
00:24:03.000 There is no historical genetic or any other history of Palestine.
00:24:07.000 It's not even mentioned until the late 19th and early 20th century when it becomes a mandate in 1922.
00:24:12.000 And we need to take that back.
00:24:14.000 The Palestine people understand it was invented by a company called George Anderson was the publicist.
00:24:20.000 He was a partner of a public relations company in the early 60s.
00:24:24.000 The first time we really have Palestine is with the PLO, which is established in 1964.
00:24:31.000 And in 1967, after the Six-Day War, you have Gaza and the West Bank, and they say they're one country, Palestine.
00:24:39.000 That is an absolute fallacy and a myth.
00:24:43.000 The great-grandfathers of the people in Gaza called themselves Egyptians.
00:24:46.000 The great-grandfathers of the people in West Bank called themselves Jordanians.
00:24:52.000 They, by saying we're one country, one side being on the east, one side being on the west, now they've defined that everything in between is occupied.
00:25:01.000 It is a, they were brilliant at it, they were shrewd at it, and it's horrific, and we've got to take back the narrative.
00:25:06.000 So that's piece one. 0.87
00:25:09.000 We need to understand what Hamas is.
00:25:12.000 Hamas, if you look at their covenant of 1988, their charter, they're very clear.
00:25:18.000 They want the destruction of Israel. 0.83
00:25:20.000 They want every Jew, and the word is obliterated. 0.98
00:25:23.000 They're very, very clear about that. 0.71
00:25:25.000 And they do not claim, by the way, a historical right to the land.
00:25:28.000 I don't know if you know this or not, Andrew.
00:25:29.000 They actually don't even claim a historical right. 0.73
00:25:32.000 They claim the right of wah, a holy possession, that since it was once conquered for Allah, therefore it is always for Allah.
00:25:39.000 And that is so, you cannot negotiate with people who want you dead.
00:25:46.000 So there's a real issue with that. 0.96
00:25:48.000 And when people are saying pro-Palestine, there is no such thing, pro-Hamas, they want you dead. 0.96
00:25:54.000 I think one of the most ironic images I've seen is a couple of women that had signs that said lesbian, or Jewish lesbians for Palestine. 0.99
00:26:04.000 Those women, they'd have a bidding war as to who could kill them first, because they're both lesbian. 1.00
00:26:09.000 We need to take back that narrative. 1.00
00:26:11.000 There is no such thing as Palestine. 0.68
00:26:13.000 Let's move on from there. 0.99
00:26:14.000 Whereas Israel exports hope and faith and joy and makes everything better, Palestine instead has exported war death and want to look behind as opposed to looking to the future. 0.94
00:26:25.000 And we need to be really honest about that. 1.00
00:26:27.000 We need to educate people about that because most of these people that are at these demonstrations are useful idiots. 1.00
00:26:34.000 They have no idea what Palestine really is. 1.00
00:26:36.000 It doesn't exist.
00:26:37.000 They have no idea that Gaza and West Bank are actually not related.
00:26:41.000 And they have no idea what's in the Hamas Charter.
00:26:45.000 And they don't understand that in the Hamas Charter, in that covenant of 1988, it also says, I think, in Article 11 or 13, it also says that if you're not a devout Muslim, because they claim to be part of the Islamic, the Muslim Brotherhood in their preface, if you're not a devout Muslim committed to jihad, then you're of no value either. 0.77
00:27:03.000 And that's why they use these people, their own people, as human shields. 0.82
00:27:08.000 This is evil.
00:27:09.000 This is, it really causes me a lot of pain.
00:27:12.000 But what Hamas did on October 7th is they emulated Amalek of the Bible, who attacked the weak, the wicked, the children, the sick, the old. 0.87
00:27:22.000 And that Amalek is the only character that God says I will always be at war with, that we are to destroy and blot off the face of the earth. 0.97
00:27:32.000 So much so that King Saul loses his kingship because he doesn't destroy all the Amalekites. 1.00
00:27:39.000 And the reason is once you've decided that it's not even collateral damage, you're going after the children after the week. 1.00
00:27:48.000 That's not redeemable.
00:27:50.000 That's not a sin that can be redeemed.
00:27:53.000 Even King David, look, you know the Bible. 0.94
00:27:54.000 King David sleeps with a married woman and sends her husband out to be killed. 1.00
00:27:58.000 He's forgiven. 0.97
00:27:59.000 But Amalek is never forgiven and never to be. 0.89
00:28:02.000 And what Hamas did on October 7th can never be forgiven. 0.88
00:28:06.000 And we need to fertilize the earth of Gaza with their ashes and create something new in Gaza. 0.77
00:28:14.000 You know, before Hamas came into Gaza, Gaza is a beautiful place. 0.78
00:28:17.000 It's some of the best land in the world.
00:28:19.000 Five times they have rejected taking a two-state solution.
00:28:24.000 They have no interest in that.
00:28:25.000 In their charter, they say that any discussions that are to be had for peace are only subterfuge.
00:28:30.000 They are only for the purpose of ultimately destroying every Jew and everyone there who is not part of their rabbi.
00:28:37.000 I think you're hitting on the crux of the issue. 0.85
00:28:40.000 Now, Charlie posts pro-Israel stuff on Twitter or whatever.
00:28:43.000 He gets attacked by all these little trolls that say, look what the Jews have done.
00:28:47.000 Look what the Israel's done. 0.98
00:28:48.000 You're getting fooled. 1.00
00:28:50.000 I find it repulsive, and I'm sick of it.
00:28:54.000 I am absolutely completely up to the right here, okay?
00:28:57.000 I'm way past there.
00:28:59.000 This is a defensive war.
00:29:00.000 Hamas came after and murdered innocent women and children, and they want to do it again.
00:29:05.000 I cannot express, Rabbi, how infuriating it makes me when I see people defending the barbarism that we saw and framing it in this oppressor versus oppressed lens.
00:29:16.000 I mean, we often talk about on this show how reality for many of these people is incapable of breaking through.
00:29:24.000 The facts do not matter because their brains are so washed in ideology.
00:29:28.000 Now, they might think that about us, but when you've got a terrorist group that goes across a boundary line to go murder 1,400, might be 1,500 when it's all said and done, I'm told.
00:29:38.000 Innocent civilians, you better believe there's retaliation coming.
00:29:42.000 Now, but I do want to put this, I want to put this to you, Rabbi.
00:29:46.000 There's a lot of discussion about ceasefires and all this stuff.
00:29:50.000 Joe Biden has come out and said the possibility of a ceasefire is not going to happen.
00:29:53.000 Now, we might get these little four-hour windows.
00:29:56.000 We'll see how that all plays out.
00:29:58.000 But break down from your perspective, the difference between the civilians in Gaza and Hamas.
00:30:05.000 Now, they were elected.
00:30:07.000 Now, there are innocent people there, but I don't buy for a second that they're all innocent.
00:30:12.000 I think that a lot of them actually aid and abed these terrorists, whether that's, you know, helping hide them, stockpiling their ammunitions.
00:30:20.000 I've heard thousands of stories like this.
00:30:23.000 How should we think about the Gaza civilian question?
00:30:28.000 War is horrible. 0.88
00:30:29.000 That's why you don't have it.
00:30:30.000 Let's be honest.
00:30:31.000 No other armed forces in the universe, in the history of the world, do everything they can to try and protect the innocent.
00:30:39.000 It takes five Israeli soldiers to clear a house. 0.69
00:30:43.000 It takes a platoon to clear a building, realizing that there probably is not even one person in that house or building who wouldn't kill the Israeli if he had the chance. 0.81
00:30:53.000 But there will be some, and there are some innocents. 0.96
00:30:56.000 And, you know, there's a midrash that King Saul, when he doesn't kill all the Amalekites, Samuel, you know, he makes an excuse to the prophet Samuel, and he says that why should the innocent die with the guilty? 0.75
00:31:08.000 And it's for that reason he loses his kingship. 0.77
00:31:13.000 We're not going out to try and kill innocents.
00:31:16.000 And we've given every notice.
00:31:17.000 And where else do you see tanks?
00:31:21.000 And there are tanks from Israel guarding the path for civilians to get out, to get to Egypt, to get out. 0.87
00:31:26.000 That only happens with Israel.
00:31:28.000 And that's why it's the Israel Defense Force, not offense force.
00:31:32.000 And you're right that facts don't matter to a lot of these people.
00:31:35.000 They've never read the covenant of Hamas.
00:31:37.000 They don't understand anything about the history.
00:31:38.000 They bought into the public relations scam that's been going on for 65 years.
00:31:43.000 But the reality, and we have to be clear about it, and Andrew, I do not have the words to tell you how sad I am about it. 0.86
00:31:50.000 We have to go and destroy Hamas. 0.71
00:31:55.000 If you'd asked me a month and a half ago, what should we do with Hamas? 0.94
00:31:58.000 I would say, try and make peace if it all possible. 0.88
00:32:00.000 They crossed that line by attacking children, attacking the weak.
00:32:04.000 And they did it with help.
00:32:06.000 Because we now know that when they came in, they knew what doors these families used.
00:32:13.000 They knew what families they were going for.
00:32:15.000 It wasn't an accident.
00:32:16.000 Well, they didn't find that out just randomly.
00:32:18.000 They found it out because workers from Gaza had been in the area.
00:32:22.000 Quote-unquote civilians.
00:32:24.000 Gaza has had its own control for 18 years.
00:32:28.000 They elected Hamas. 0.83
00:32:30.000 And we've given them the opportunity to get out, and we need to truly destroy, not defeat, destroy Hamas. 0.87
00:32:37.000 There can be no ceasefire. 0.75
00:32:38.000 And this, do you know about the deal that Qatar is trying to broker?
00:32:43.000 Are you familiar with this?
00:32:45.000 Yeah, I've heard some of it.
00:32:46.000 So apparently, with the backing of the U.S., Qatar, which is where all these billionaire leaders of Hamas actually live, is attempting to broker a deal for a one to two day ceasefire in exchange for 10 to 15 prisoners.
00:33:01.000 God forbid we make that deal.
00:33:04.000 Because all it does is give it a two-day respite so they can regroup.
00:33:09.000 So Hamas, which has said they will keep doing this forever, they're very clear about that. 0.69
00:33:15.000 That's right. 0.79
00:33:15.000 To give them a regroup. 0.79
00:33:17.000 And it says, okay, well, there's another 200 hostages.
00:33:20.000 So every month when they're really beat up, they're going to negotiate over 10 hostages.
00:33:24.000 They have a day or two.
00:33:25.000 Rabbi Michael Barclay, I want to make sure I get in your social media handle here.
00:33:30.000 Everybody needs to follow the rabbi at rabbi underscore Barclay.
00:33:33.000 Okay.
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