The Charlie Kirk Show - "The Gospel of Truth is Going to Be Offensive." ft. Pastor Jack Hibbs

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00:00:33.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:31.000 Hey everybody, welcome back to the Jack Hibbs Podcast.

00:01:33.000 We are excited and thrilled to not only have a friend with us, but a man that needs no introduction, literally.

00:01:40.000 God has been using this guy tremendously.

00:01:42.000 I think we were talking a moment ago that ever since 2020, when we first met, we have just watched this young man's career explode, and for good reason, because I believe, without exaggeration, We have a national treasure in our midst.

00:02:00.000 And I don't want to embarrass him, but please welcome Charlie Kirk, brother.

00:02:03.000 Jack, you're a great friend.

00:02:04.000 So great to be with you.

00:02:04.000 Thank you, and thanks for all that you've done for me throughout the years.

00:02:07.000 And every week I'm watching Jack Kibbs preach the word.

00:02:10.000 Every week you're in the pulpit.

00:02:11.000 It is so encouraging for you to send me.

00:02:13.000 He will send me a text saying, Eric and I are watching.

00:02:15.000 Listen to the podcast, too.

00:02:17.000 I love it.

00:02:18.000 I do the same.

00:02:19.000 How often?

00:02:19.000 I think I get a hold of you quite often and say, Charlie.

00:02:21.000 You know what?

00:02:22.000 It is so encouraging.

00:02:24.000 My favorite is when you're...

00:02:25.000 Using Siri to text.

00:02:26.000 Oh, gosh.

00:02:27.000 Why? Because what's being...

00:02:28.000 The inaccuracies of the text are very fun.

00:02:31.000 Yeah. No, I'm kidding.

00:02:32.000 But I love it.

00:02:33.000 It says, Charlie, I'm on my way to L.A. listening on radio.

00:02:35.000 And you know how encouraging it is for a radio guy?

00:02:38.000 I'm just like, wow, someone is listening.

00:02:39.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:02:40.000 No, no, because, you know, on TV, radio, people are in their car, so you don't get feedback as much because people are busy.

00:02:44.000 So it's always nice to know that.

00:02:46.000 That's awesome.

00:02:46.000 At least I got a Jack Kibbs.

00:02:47.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:02:48.000 Always. It's awesome.

00:02:49.000 So, okay, let's just dive into this.

00:02:52.000 Sorry, but I kind of almost maybe...

00:02:55.000 You want to do the hand thing?

00:02:57.000 Ask you about how did you get in contact or who, with what, Gavin Newsom?

00:03:02.000 You know, thank you.

00:03:05.000 And thank you, by the way, for covering it in prayer.

00:03:07.000 It was a difficult project, and I'll explain why.

00:03:12.000 For multiple reasons.

00:03:13.000 But first, he reached out to me.

00:03:15.000 He reached out through Kimberly Guilfoyle, his ex-wife.

00:03:17.000 And Kimberly's in Trump world and is Trump's pick to be ambassador to Greece.

00:03:21.000 Yes. And I kind of thought this was a joke at first.

00:03:24.000 And he reached out and was like, hey, Charlie, you know, I'm a big, you know, follower.

00:03:28.000 Batman voice.

00:03:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:29.000 And I was like, yeah, okay.

00:03:31.000 He's like, I'm doing a podcast.

00:03:32.000 Would love to have you come on.

00:03:34.000 I was like, yeah, sure.

00:03:35.000 Don't you have a state to run, you know?

00:03:37.000 It's like the first thing I said to him.

00:03:38.000 No, he doesn't.

00:03:39.000 Apparently not.

00:03:41.000 He was like, look, I want to learn from you.

00:03:42.000 No BS, no tricks.

00:03:43.000 I said, okay, fine.

00:03:45.000 So I was his first invited guest.

00:03:46.000 We made the decision to actually go in person.

00:03:49.000 I'm glad we made that decision.

00:03:51.000 It's just so much different than looking just through a screen.

00:03:55.000 He was like, look, I want to try to learn from you, pick your brain.

00:03:58.000 It was difficult because I wanted to be more aggressive, but when he's throwing praise on you, even though it's all fake and flattery and slippery, deceit.

00:04:07.000 Optics look bad if you went in the text.

00:04:09.000 Exactly. So I still, I think, pressed him.

00:04:11.000 Yes, you did.

00:04:12.000 And I tried to do it in a way that would please the Lord, in a way that was full of truth and grace.

00:04:19.000 I wish I would have had a venue to even more prosecute the case of California, but understand.

00:04:24.000 It is a national audience.

00:04:25.000 It's not just about California.

00:04:27.000 So it was a great opportunity. 1.00

00:04:29.000 He looked like a fool. 0.99

00:04:30.000 He got himself in a lot of trouble on a lot of different circumstances. 1.00

00:04:33.000 Yeah, he did.

00:04:34.000 And also, I defended the Lord's name.

00:04:37.000 Yes, you did.

00:04:37.000 I think three or four times you did.

00:04:39.000 That's correct.

00:04:40.000 Which was awesome.

00:04:42.000 I know this almost, and we can move on from him in a moment.

00:04:44.000 No, no, I'm happy to chat about it.

00:04:45.000 But let me play devil's advocate.

00:04:48.000 You've heard this probably a thousand times.

00:04:51.000 He upset his base.

00:04:54.000 But push comes to shove.

00:04:55.000 At the end of the day, they're always going to be Gavin Newsom fans, no matter what they say.

00:04:59.000 So do you think it's his attempt to optically move toward the middle for whatever his political pursuits might be?

00:05:07.000 Without a doubt.

00:05:08.000 I think this whole project is that he knows that people classify him as a very radical California governor, and he wants to try to moderate himself in the views of American voters.

00:05:19.000 The Democrat Party, though, wants nothing to do with any form of moderation.

00:05:22.000 That's right.

00:05:23.000 And that's what I consider to be the singular great success of our dialogue, is that I pressed him.

00:05:28.000 I said, well, why don't you stand up on this issue of biological men that are winning women's trophies? 0.98

00:05:34.000 And he was like, oh, well, I do agree with you.

00:05:37.000 It's an issue of fairness, and I think it's unfair.

00:05:40.000 Well, he's such... 0.99

00:05:42.000 Obviously a hypocrite and a liar because that biological man is about to win the state championship right now in the long jump here in this state of California and he's done nothing about it. 1.00

00:05:51.000 So it's all just rhetorical nonsense from him trying to win over political favor. 0.99

00:05:57.000 The Gavin Newsom experiment is going to be really interesting to see where the state of the Democrat Party actually is.

00:06:03.000 Because they should moderate on some of these issues.

00:06:06.000 They should come towards common sense on it.

00:06:08.000 I don't think they will, though.

00:06:09.000 I think they're so married to their base on these.

00:06:13.000 Fundamental issues of open borders and defund the police and rioting and arson and crime and shutting down schools and vaccine mandates and then, of course, the men and female sports.

00:06:24.000 And if he even went away from it on a minute level, and if I had more time with him, I would have...

00:06:35.000 is held captive to a pagan religion that is the Democrat Party. 0.92

00:06:39.000 And this is what drives me nuts when pastors are indifferent about getting involved in politics.

00:06:44.000 Politics is merely a manifestation of a spiritual battle.

00:06:49.000 I know you and I will dialogue about this further, that there's really two worldviews.

00:06:53.000 There's one where you believe in Genesis 1-1, God created the heavens and the earth, in the beginning God created everything, or one that is a manifestation of the pagan river civilizations of old.

00:07:03.000 Atheism really is just a small fringe.

00:07:06.000 There's very few people that believe in no God.

00:07:08.000 There is a God that fills that void.

00:07:10.000 That's right.

00:07:10.000 The God of narcissism, the God of anti-racism, the God of pleasure, the God of stuff, and the Democrat Party is the placeholder.

00:07:20.000 So true.

00:07:22.000 More than ever, would you agree, more than ever, now look, I'm old enough to be your dad, so for as long as I've been alive, I have never seen it so black and white, so divided, so crystal clear, that it's no longer...

00:07:40.000 There for someone to say, well, you know, I'm a Democrat, but I'm definitely more like a JFK Democrat.

00:07:47.000 No, you're not.

00:07:48.000 You can't be.

00:07:48.000 You can't be, because JFK, if he were back today, they'd throw him out.

00:07:53.000 They are so radical now.

00:07:54.000 Look at Bobby Kennedy.

00:07:56.000 This is true.

00:07:57.000 Bobby Tulsi.

00:07:58.000 Bobby basically has the views of his father and his uncle.

00:08:02.000 And now he's Trump's HHS secretary, and I think he's doing a wonderful job.

00:08:06.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:08:07.000 Okay, so what in the world, Charlie, is going on?

00:08:09.000 You're all over the U.S., campuses, your crowds.

00:08:13.000 Where were you?

00:08:14.000 Oh my goodness, you were in Knoxville recently, which freaked me out because I was getting...

00:08:19.000 Andrew, somebody sent me photos of you and the crowd, and I was just so elated to see this going on in Knoxville.

00:08:29.000 What's happening?

00:08:30.000 What in the world is going on with the young people in America right now?

00:08:33.000 Boy, well, first, what happened in the election was profound.

00:08:36.000 Younger people moved significantly more in the conservative Trump direction than older voters did.

00:08:42.000 Actually, older voters moved a couple points towards Kamala Harris.

00:08:45.000 Younger voters moved significantly towards Donald Trump.

00:08:49.000 This is data that Ezra Klein and David Shore have actually built out, and we've been profiling that on our podcast, on our show.

00:08:55.000 They're both lefties.

00:08:56.000 They're not one of us.

00:08:57.000 But they're looking at the data, and they're doing an autopsy.

00:08:59.000 The data is so...

00:09:02.000 Clear and so dramatic that if you find a 20-year-old man, he is on average far more conservative than his grandfather.

00:09:11.000 That's never happened in my...

00:09:12.000 Not in my lifetime.

00:09:14.000 It's never happened even since Reagan.

00:09:15.000 So Reagan, we had the kids that were pretty conservative, the parents were even more conservative.

00:09:19.000 Never had we had it where the 20-year-old is more conservative than his grandfather.

00:09:24.000 There's a lot of reasons for this.

00:09:25.000 Number one, where they get their information.

00:09:27.000 Now, I'm not here to attack all boomers, but if you're 75, you get information from CNN or NBC or ABC or the New York Times.

00:09:35.000 You consume through these media networks that are completely dishonest and full of hackery.

00:09:40.000 Whereas a 20-year-old, they're getting news from the Charlie Kirk show or from the Megyn Kelly show or from TikTok or from Instagram.

00:09:46.000 Or Rogan.

00:09:46.000 Or Joe Rogan.

00:09:47.000 They're getting it in these decentralized ways.

00:09:50.000 Beautiful. It is a beautiful thing.

00:09:52.000 Even more so that's really exciting from a religious Christian perspective is that during COVID we saw a deep deacceleration of the church.

00:10:00.000 We saw a lot of people walk away from the church.

00:10:02.000 Thankfully, praise God, the New York Times had to publish a story that's actually plateaued.

00:10:07.000 It's gone up a little bit.

00:10:08.000 Church attendance is going up a little bit.

00:10:10.000 Not a lot.

00:10:11.000 But hey, it's a pull up of the nose.

00:10:13.000 It's being driven by one demographic, men under 30. Men under 30 are flocking to the church in record numbers that are just...

00:10:21.000 We're flummoxing the experts.

00:10:23.000 They can't believe it.

00:10:24.000 And we see it on these campuses, Jack.

00:10:26.000 There is an appetite.

00:10:27.000 There's a desire for truth.

00:10:28.000 We believe this generation has been... 1.00

00:10:31.000 Just suffocating in the lies of modernity, which we believe to be secularism, which is against God's will and God's plan for our life.

00:10:39.000 And what we're seeing on these campuses, again, it all comes back to spiritual truths.

00:10:43.000 Exactly right.

00:10:43.000 And I am first and foremost a Christian and a follower of Jesus.

00:10:47.000 My profession, though, is to try to fight for the best political system, but I'm unafraid to talk about matters of spirituality and abortion, and those always come up, and that's the key, is that eventually...

00:10:58.000 The person will come up to the microphone and they'll ask a question about ultimate truth and ultimate principles.

00:11:03.000 There is a revival waiting to happen right now.

00:11:06.000 And I wish more churches and pastors were like yourself, waiting to receive them.

00:11:09.000 Well, honestly, without boasting, I'm announcing I wish other pastors would for this one reason.

00:11:15.000 Why should we have all the blessings?

00:11:17.000 Yeah, you guys are running out of parking spots.

00:11:18.000 We're out of parking spots.

00:11:20.000 God is blessing and overwhelming.

00:11:21.000 We're creating ministries to reach the world more and more.

00:11:24.000 And you're doing an amazing job.

00:11:25.000 And that's just what's blowing our minds.

00:11:27.000 We had two board meetings in the last two days where we just had to sit down and almost just...

00:11:32.000 Shout and be overwhelmed to the point of almost laughter where what in the world is going on where God is doing stuff?

00:11:40.000 We need more pastors to take a stand and you said it at the beginning and you just said it again and that is this.

00:11:46.000 You cannot parse out the secular from the sacred.

00:11:50.000 There's no such thing that exists.

00:11:52.000 To God, it is all sacred.

00:11:55.000 And he deals.

00:11:56.000 He goes into the world of what man calls secular.

00:12:00.000 And what he's doing right now is he's waking young people up to pursue truth.

00:12:04.000 They may not be saying, I feel God in my life.

00:12:08.000 That may not be happening that way, but they may be thinking, I've been lied to.

00:12:12.000 I don't like the way this is going.

00:12:13.000 Who can I trust these days?

00:12:15.000 And they're in route.

00:12:16.000 I think, Charlie, now I'm not a prophet.

00:12:18.000 I'm just hoping.

00:12:20.000 With what these young people are now questioning and pursuing, i.e., they're looking to you.

00:12:27.000 They're coming in droves.

00:12:29.000 They're gathering by the tens of thousands to hear what you have to say.

00:12:32.000 It may be that the spiritual revival is about to happen.

00:12:36.000 We have certainly seen, can I put it this way, a political revival in America?

00:12:41.000 That's right.

00:12:42.000 We're seeing this with Trump and his policies.

00:12:46.000 Our hope is that there'll be a spiritual revival within the church because I'm a little bit concerned where men like Elon Musk get more persecution than the pastor.

00:12:56.000 That's right.

00:12:57.000 I think that's right.

00:12:59.000 And to Elon's credit, he has...

00:13:01.000 He's publicly been saying that if the West is no longer Christian, the West will no longer be free.

00:13:06.000 That's right.

00:13:07.000 He is searching for, I believe, ultimate truth.

00:13:08.000 And I think we should be praying for that.

00:13:11.000 Absolutely. And honestly, he's also doing more to fight for righteous purposes than even some pastors that I can think of.

00:13:16.000 Exactly. And Elon is not a pastor, but he doesn't call himself a pastor, which is really important.

00:13:22.000 Look, we are in this God-granted season of grace.

00:13:27.000 That we did not earn, that we did not deserve.

00:13:30.000 I mean, we all know what would have happened if Kamala would have won.

00:13:32.000 Oh, gosh.

00:13:33.000 I mean, we'd be having a much different conversation right now.

00:13:35.000 Much different.

00:13:36.000 In a bunker.

00:13:37.000 From a bunker.

00:13:38.000 Our churches would be raided with FBI agents.

00:13:41.000 Our... AM radio would have been shut down.

00:13:43.000 The turning point would be completely persecuted.

00:13:45.000 The borders would be totally open.

00:13:47.000 The border issue alone might have broken the back of this country.

00:13:51.000 I completely agree,

00:14:07.000 but here's my fear, and my fear is that pastors are not...

00:14:13.000 Actively trying to provoke that spiritual revival.

00:14:16.000 Because they don't understand how to reach the young men that are coming to their church.

00:14:20.000 That are seeking this.

00:14:22.000 And so, for example, you have young men that will drive two hours to come to this church.

00:14:25.000 That's right.

00:14:25.000 They'll drive across state lines.

00:14:27.000 And that's a good thing for you.

00:14:29.000 That means you're doing your job.

00:14:30.000 Do you know what that means?

00:14:31.000 That means they passed a hundred churches on the way here that aren't doing their job.

00:14:35.000 That's exactly correct.

00:14:36.000 And the thing I hear, and again, I emphasize young men, because as the men go, the society goes.

00:14:40.000 That's right.

00:14:41.000 It's not a sexist thing to say that.

00:14:42.000 And I think that's why Satan, the spiritual darkness of this world, goes after men.

00:14:47.000 Exactly. You control a man, you castrate a man speaking, socially speaking, in other ways, sometimes literally, and then you remove the man that God designed to be a leader, then the culture falls apart.

00:15:03.000 The battle between good and evil seems to be escalating.

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00:16:08.000 And a lot of these pastors are unequipped, ill-equipped to be able to communicate to this young man.

00:16:14.000 So let's just say a young man comes to a local pastor.

00:16:17.000 Understand he has been conditioned through social media of watching myself, watching you, watching Matt Walsh of...

00:16:25.000 Plainly spoken truths.

00:16:26.000 Yep. So he does not want watered down political correctness.

00:16:29.000 No, he's done with that.

00:16:30.000 He's done with that.

00:16:31.000 And yet he goes, and the pastor is doing well, you know, maybe there's no difference between heaven or hell, and maybe homosexuality's fine. 0.98

00:16:40.000 And this young man says, forget it, this is a waste of time.

00:16:43.000 That's right.

00:16:43.000 I'm not getting up at 9 a.m. for this.

00:16:45.000 That's right.

00:16:45.000 This is hyper-feminine, you know, everyone goes everywhere.

00:16:51.000 I don't want that.

00:16:52.000 Instead, you know what that young man really wants? 1.00

00:16:54.000 He wants a strong male pastor to say, you're a sinner, you're acting like a loser, stop watching porn, stop drinking. 1.00

00:17:02.000 Because he knows it's true. 1.00

00:17:04.000 Holy Spirit's speaking there.

00:17:05.000 It cuts straight into the heart issue, right?

00:17:07.000 He doesn't want the, I use this example a lot, and I know you'll, you know, take it.

00:17:13.000 Well, Jack, some pastors don't like it, but it's just a factual thing.

00:17:16.000 These advertisements that he gets us advertisements, which I don't like.

00:17:20.000 Look, I don't like it.

00:17:21.000 Okay, good.

00:17:21.000 I don't know.

00:17:22.000 I think they're...

00:17:23.000 They're misleading.

00:17:24.000 And they're hyper-narcissistic.

00:17:25.000 Absolutely. And they're also incredibly feminine.

00:17:27.000 Absolutely. And so you think about it.

00:17:29.000 What is the type of gospel where you want to be like, well, he gets you.

00:17:33.000 Well, hold on.

00:17:34.000 The gospel is not an I-centric.

00:17:36.000 That's right.

00:17:37.000 Right? It is a Jesus-centric.

00:17:38.000 It's come and be crucified.

00:17:39.000 Exactly. And so the young man hears a gospel, something of the sort of...

00:17:46.000 You know, your emotions are the most important thing.

00:17:49.000 We're not going to judge you.

00:17:50.000 We're not going to give you rules for life.

00:17:52.000 Where they are begging the pastor, can you please do a life correction plan for me?

00:17:59.000 Can you please show me what I'm doing wrong?

00:18:02.000 Challenge me.

00:18:03.000 Give me something to do.

00:18:04.000 But that might offend people, Jack.

00:18:07.000 The gospel truth is going to be offensive.

00:18:09.000 But you think about it.

00:18:09.000 Again, I know this might sound like an overgeneralization, but God created the masculine and the feminine.

00:18:13.000 We need a balance of both.

00:18:15.000 When a society gets too masculine, you invade Poland. 0.99

00:18:18.000 When a society gets too feminine, you start chopping off girls' breasts. 1.00

00:18:22.000 So you have to get a balance. 0.97

00:18:25.000 Right now we're way too feminine. 0.78

00:18:27.000 What does that mean?

00:18:28.000 That means that no one challenges bad ideas of people in power.

00:18:31.000 Women are societal enforcers of norms. 1.00

00:18:34.000 And so that used to be a really good thing when America was Christian. 1.00

00:18:37.000 Yes. Because the moms of America would be the ones that would say, hey, stop drinking. 1.00

00:18:42.000 We need prohibitions. 0.97

00:18:43.000 You know, they were the enforcers of Christian norms. 0.91

00:18:45.000 Now women are very, very far left because societal norms are liberal. 1.00

00:18:50.000 And so they are in...

00:18:52.000 Definitionally are like, hey, we can't offend the single or trans person, even though it's one in 50,000 people, or even less than that.

00:18:59.000 We can't say one thing that will offend them.

00:19:02.000 We can't possibly say anything that homosexuality is wrong, because that would be too judgy.

00:19:08.000 And the question I ask pastors is, forget whether or not this is a good idea or a bad idea biblically.

00:19:14.000 Has this worked?

00:19:15.000 Has the overly emotional, feeling-based gospel worked?

00:19:20.000 Last 30 years, it hasn't.

00:19:21.000 That's right.

00:19:22.000 Church attendance is down.

00:19:23.000 We are less Christian than we were 30 years ago.

00:19:24.000 That's right.

00:19:25.000 Exactly right.

00:19:26.000 You said something a second ago that made me think about, is this still true?

00:19:31.000 Regarding Trump and the statistics, did he do poorly with the white suburban female still?

00:19:39.000 He did better.

00:19:40.000 He did better?

00:19:41.000 But he did not.

00:19:42.000 What's with them?

00:19:43.000 What's the deal with that?

00:19:44.000 Well, a lot of things.

00:19:45.000 Number one, they are increasingly secular.

00:19:48.000 And so white educated, and that's the key.

00:19:52.000 So you have to break it apart.

00:19:53.000 The divisions in America are less on race, so I shouldn't even say white, but it tends to be this group tends to be more white. 0.70

00:19:59.000 It's more about whether or not you have four-year college or you don't. 0.53

00:20:02.000 And most importantly, so let's just kind of go into the most miserable people in America.

00:20:09.000 No, it's true.

00:20:10.000 This is not Charlie just conjecturing.

00:20:12.000 This is who actually commits suicide the most, the people that ask for antidepressants the most.

00:20:17.000 This is surveys that actually say, are you very happy or very unhappy?

00:20:22.000 With like 100,000 respondents.

00:20:24.000 The unhappiest people in America are women who are not married without kids. 1.00

00:20:28.000 Without a doubt.

00:20:30.000 And they tend to be very loyal Democrats.

00:20:33.000 Voters, right?

00:20:33.000 They're looking for meaning and they find that meaning in societal macro-shaping.

00:20:39.000 But then you kind of go to your suburban mom, right?

00:20:41.000 The suburban mom, they tend to not be as religious as suburban women used to be. 0.97

00:20:47.000 They'll be, like, spiritual, so they might find a local church that is in that heretical mold, but they will not necessarily glean towards a Jack Kibbs church.

00:20:57.000 Too judgy.

00:20:58.000 Too judgy.

00:20:59.000 He's too political.

00:20:59.000 Too long of a service in the Bible, too much Bible.

00:21:02.000 Yeah, way too much Bible, right?

00:21:04.000 Yeah. Secondly, though, that they have a great attachment because they're very big into boss babe feminism. 1.00

00:21:10.000 In their own personal career accomplishments.

00:21:12.000 What's it called?

00:21:13.000 Boss babe feminism. 1.00

00:21:14.000 Help me.

00:21:15.000 So boss babe is this kind of trend where I'm running the company and I'm a boss babe.

00:21:22.000 So you never heard this term before?

00:21:25.000 No, I'm old.

00:21:26.000 You guys have never heard this before?

00:21:28.000 Oh my goodness.

00:21:29.000 I'm old.

00:21:30.000 So think of...

00:21:32.000 Have you ever seen House of Cards?

00:21:34.000 No? Ever seen that show?

00:21:35.000 No? I'm trying to think of a good example of who, like, a boss babe would be that you would think of. 1.00

00:21:39.000 Think of...

00:21:40.000 Okay, um, think...

00:21:42.000 Let me...

00:21:43.000 Think of, like, AOC...

00:21:46.000 Oh, gosh.

00:21:47.000 Energy, where...

00:21:48.000 And she's the boss? 1.00

00:21:49.000 Yeah. That's terrifying.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, so think...

00:21:51.000 By the way, just so you know, many of your companies are being run by childless 32-year-old women with kids.

00:21:57.000 Got it.

00:21:58.000 Seen it.

00:21:59.000 So you've seen that kind of archetype, right?

00:22:01.000 Their identity is in how many shoes they own and how many trips they go on.

00:22:05.000 Gosh, this is going to be brutal to say. 0.98

00:22:06.000 I'll probably get shot for this. 0.99

00:22:10.000 Go ahead. 0.97

00:22:11.000 I have been...

00:22:13.000 I'm trying not...

00:22:17.000 I'm just using data.

00:22:19.000 Everything I'm saying is rooted in...

00:22:20.000 In fact, I'm going to blame you for this.

00:22:23.000 It's fine.

00:22:23.000 Do women who are in authority...

00:22:25.000 There's exceptions.

00:22:27.000 Yes. There's exceptions.

00:22:29.000 But does it seem that women who are handed authority have a tendency to overplay the authority more than a man?

00:22:35.000 Well, it's overcompensation, right?

00:22:37.000 And I'm not saying that to be mean, but men work this out in the fifth grade in the field at school, beating each other up.

00:22:46.000 It's an issue of nature, and it's very simple.

00:22:48.000 Let me tell you why.

00:22:49.000 It's because women have a very difficult time not emphasizing on the micro. 1.00

00:22:54.000 So when you're in charge of something, you definitionally have to be focused on macro.

00:22:58.000 Let me prove it to you.

00:22:59.000 If you go to a random party and you sit next to a guy, he's going to talk to you about sports, the stock market, political affairs, or the end of the world.

00:23:07.000 Right? Basically the most macro topics that you could imagine.

00:23:10.000 Are we going to war with Iran?

00:23:12.000 The most big...

00:23:15.000 You sit next to a woman, she'll be talking about conversations she had at lunch.

00:23:20.000 Yes. She'll be talking about her kids.

00:23:23.000 Or her doctor visits.

00:23:24.000 The most micro things imaginable.

00:23:26.000 So if you're running a team, an organization, or a CEO, you are focusing on micro when you need to be vision casting.

00:23:34.000 Now, some women are able to do macro. 1.00

00:23:36.000 There's exceptions to all things, right?

00:23:39.000 Esther was able to do macro.

00:23:40.000 But generally, if you want to deliver people from the promised land, you need a Moses.

00:23:46.000 You need someone that is the biggest macro thinker imaginable.

00:23:51.000 And men are better programmed for this. 0.91

00:23:53.000 And this is also one of the reasons why the stereotype is true. 0.85

00:23:56.000 We tend to not clean our rooms and we tend to kind of be a mess.

00:23:59.000 We kind of like forget the micro and we're just like, nope, we're going to go do the biggest possible thing imaginable.

00:24:03.000 So true.

00:24:04.000 It's how God has gifted us.

00:24:05.000 So when it comes to women in leadership, whatever that might look like, they will hyper-emphasize conversations or whatever little detail that might be plaguing the group.

00:24:17.000 When there might be a much bigger issue at play.

00:24:20.000 So true.

00:24:21.000 So when we get, we now look at societal, and your question was about Trump with suburban women, many of them are not necessarily in happy marriages, and they have an idea of what they think the Western man should be.

00:24:35.000 And their idea of the Western man is largely born out of a concept that came out of college where they think the Western man should at best be egalitarian with the woman.

00:24:45.000 Or at worst, that we need a woman to be superior to the man. 1.00

00:24:50.000 And so we've lived in this feminist lie, whether we realize it or not, the last 40 years, right? 0.99

00:24:55.000 And how has that worked? 0.99

00:24:56.000 We've told women to stop getting married, stop having kids, and the Western woman is so beyond miserable. 1.00

00:25:01.000 That's right. 0.98

00:25:02.000 Child rates are going down.

00:25:04.000 They are consuming benzodiazepines and Xanax and Zoloft and Prozac and numbers that are just unfathomable, right?

00:25:12.000 It's pandemic.

00:25:13.000 It really is.

00:25:14.000 So has the experiment of sexual liberation of women worked? 0.91

00:25:18.000 No, it's been a catastrophe, actually.

00:25:21.000 In fact, if you want to know whether or not a marriage is going to work, you know what the number one indicator is?

00:25:25.000 You can use this in marital counseling.

00:25:27.000 Tell me.

00:25:27.000 And the data.

00:25:28.000 How many sexual partners has the woman had? 1.00

00:25:30.000 Oh. Yeah.

00:25:32.000 If it's five or more, the marriage almost will not work out.

00:25:34.000 Guaranteed. Yeah, I could see that.

00:25:36.000 I could see because...

00:25:37.000 It sounds sexist, but it actually doesn't matter how many the man has had.

00:25:39.000 No, well, this is a great...

00:25:41.000 Meaning it's not an indicator.

00:25:42.000 It matters spiritually.

00:25:43.000 Well, listen, I've got to tell you, Lisa and I have been involved in marital counseling for over 36 years with people, and it's remarkable because not to destroy the man and not to destroy the woman, but you said something that people need to know about, people need to hear, especially the young people, is that a woman who,

00:26:01.000 I'll just use the term, samples the field.

00:26:03.000 Yeah, fine.

00:26:04.000 She thinks she's liberated.

00:26:05.000 She thinks she can do what a guy does in that area. 1.00

00:26:08.000 I'm not condoning the conduct, but she's so made different that what happens is it's an imprint upon her that it's so, so forever for her.

00:26:22.000 And if she has five or ten, there's an imprint where the guy...

00:26:28.000 And again, I'm not bashing guys, but a guy is more forgetful.

00:26:32.000 He's not impressionable that way.

00:26:36.000 He does great in a monogamous, long-term relationship is where he flourishes, and that's where the intimacy is meaningful to him.

00:26:45.000 And that's actually what she needs, what she wants, and she doesn't know it.

00:26:50.000 She thinks, I'm going to be like a guy.

00:26:52.000 Well, you can't be like a guy because we don't take all that stuff seriously.

00:26:56.000 To say it...

00:26:57.000 A step further is that women are designed by God to view sex very personally, very relationally. 0.92

00:27:04.000 Men view it very physically, especially when they're 19 years old.

00:27:07.000 So when a woman has a personal sexual interaction, there's an attachment.

00:27:12.000 There literally are pheromones that are released.

00:27:15.000 It makes a stamp and it's there.

00:27:17.000 And it's tattooed for life.

00:27:18.000 That's right.

00:27:18.000 So if you have five plus, the data shows that that marriage is going to be on the rocks.

00:27:24.000 Because there will be something that surfaces.

00:27:27.000 Of an unremedied...

00:27:29.000 Now, if there's a woman out there that might have five-plus sexual partners, you can deal with that with counseling and should be addressed.

00:27:36.000 It's not a death sentence.

00:27:37.000 Jesus can meet the woman at the well still to the...

00:27:40.000 But you have to know what you're dealing with.

00:27:41.000 And so let's just talk...

00:27:42.000 We're talking macro, right?

00:27:43.000 So we have a liberated Western woman. 1.00

00:27:46.000 Wow. Where an average college girl will have, you know, seven to ten sexual partners within four years. 0.91

00:27:51.000 Most Christian parents don't realize that's what they're sending their girls into, right? 0.51

00:27:54.000 Which basically college has become...

00:27:56.000 An incredibly destructive enterprise for young women. 0.96

00:27:59.000 That's right.

00:28:00.000 Young men too, but for young women especially.

00:28:02.000 And so how do they cope with that?

00:28:04.000 They have to start acting like men. 0.99

00:28:06.000 Yep. And that's what they do.

00:28:07.000 They start dressing like men. 0.71

00:28:09.000 They start talking like men.

00:28:10.000 They start trying to run companies.

00:28:11.000 They fill the gap, huh?

00:28:12.000 And they fill the gap because they start having sexual behaviors like men.

00:28:15.000 So they have to start becoming men. 0.56

00:28:17.000 Literally, that's where they get the trans thing. 0.99

00:28:18.000 And then they say, oh, I don't need to have a family.

00:28:21.000 So they become 32, 34, 36. The worst is still ahead of them.

00:28:25.000 And the dating pool shrinks as you get older.

00:28:27.000 I didn't make the rules, just the way that nature is designed.

00:28:30.000 So they end up being 36 with no real high probability of finding a long-term partner, and they get extremely bitter.

00:28:37.000 Right. And by getting bitter, they find a Democrat Party where the Democrat Party is a vessel for bitterness.

00:28:42.000 That's right.

00:28:43.000 If you are a bitter, broken person, the Democrat Party is perfect for you because all it is is complaining all the time.

00:28:48.000 That's all the Democrat Party is.

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00:29:53.000 Charlie, isn't it crazy that, again, this is going to sound so mean, but it's a podcast.

00:29:58.000 There's nothing, everything is like, I'm saying it.

00:30:01.000 We can do this in a podcast.

00:30:03.000 You can almost see people, if we have our TV muted, before they identify who they are, you can see who a conservative is by the face and who the progressive is.

00:30:15.000 Of course. 0.93

00:30:16.000 They're miserable looking and weathered. 0.96

00:30:19.000 Notice I said they, I didn't. 0.97

00:30:21.000 Exactly say which group, but it's very obvious.

00:30:24.000 Look, I agree.

00:30:25.000 And there are exceptions, okay?

00:30:28.000 But generally...

00:30:29.000 That's so well politically played right there.

00:30:31.000 But generally, let me tell you why.

00:30:33.000 Beautiful. So if you are a conservative, you want to conserve, which means you have gratitude because you want to keep what you have.

00:30:39.000 Gratitude creates joy.

00:30:41.000 Joy? We know that.

00:30:42.000 So you cannot be joyful if you're not grateful.

00:30:44.000 Never has happened in the history of this.

00:30:45.000 That's right.

00:30:46.000 You've never been a joyful person without gratitude.

00:30:48.000 Now, if you are a liberal, that means you want to liberate, which means you want to change, which means definitionally you don't have gratitude, you have ingratitude.

00:30:54.000 Yeah. And so you then...

00:30:56.000 Of course.

00:30:57.000 And you won't be happy until you establish your change, but the change never comes because what you're pursuing is a theory at best.

00:31:05.000 It's destruction.

00:31:06.000 That's right.

00:31:06.000 Most likely.

00:31:07.000 So to complete the point...

00:31:09.000 How did Trump do with this demographic?

00:31:11.000 Well, one of the reasons why young men moved more in his direction, and again, there's some generational differences.

00:31:15.000 Gen X women, for example, went way for Trump, which was amazing, whereas millennial women did not as much.

00:31:21.000 The biggest thing is this, is that Trump represented an alpha male rebellion against toxic femininity.

00:31:30.000 And you could say a lot about Trump, but if you look at how he acts and how he talks, you definitely don't think he's feminine.

00:31:37.000 Correct. Would you agree?

00:31:38.000 100%. Come on.

00:31:40.000 I know, it's obvious, but the point needs to be emphasized that from his body posture to his stamina to his unapologetic nature to his hyper-aggression to his ferocity, you look at that and you say, you could call him a lot of things, but definitely not on the feminine spectrum.

00:31:57.000 So therefore, he was, in a lot of ways, a cultural healing point.

00:32:02.000 And represented that.

00:32:03.000 Yeah, very true.

00:32:03.000 As we lived under the constant apologizing for America, the political correctness BS, the pronoun police, we're going to come after your kids, and Donald Trump represented the metaphorical dad coming home to restore order to society.

00:32:18.000 Is that the same reason why we've seen a tremendous shift among black men?

00:32:23.000 Without a doubt.

00:32:23.000 In support of Trump.

00:32:24.000 I'm blown away with the reporter on the street asking a guy that looks like maybe he's Bob Wiley's son saying, Trump's the guy!

00:32:32.000 Trump's the guy!

00:32:33.000 And it's like, what?

00:32:34.000 Again, this is all just nature.

00:32:37.000 This is all biblical.

00:32:37.000 That's why I love talking about this.

00:32:40.000 So why is it that men, specifically men under 30, went so far in the Republican direction?

00:32:45.000 Well, it's because young men don't like taking orders from women.

00:32:49.000 They don't.

00:32:50.000 A 17-year-old is less likely to take orders from his mom than his dad.

00:32:55.000 We know this from why kids go to jail.

00:32:57.000 When you find a 20-year-old in jail, almost guaranteed, if they're under the age of 25 for a violent crime, they didn't have a dad around.

00:33:05.000 It's almost like a one-to-one correlation.

00:33:07.000 That's right.

00:33:08.000 My goodness, that's so true.

00:33:09.000 And so if you look at...

00:33:11.000 If you look at inner-city crime at schools, what is the one thing that can stop two people fighting?

00:33:16.000 A female teacher can stop, they will ignore it. 1.00

00:33:19.000 They'll ignore it.

00:33:19.000 But a strong masculine figure coming in, stop it, all of a sudden they'll listen to it differently.

00:33:24.000 So extrapolate that to our politics.

00:33:27.000 So true.

00:33:27.000 The Democrat Party, two of the last three times, nominated a woman, and then one time nominated a comatose person.

00:33:33.000 So, like, it's just... 0.94

00:33:35.000 Weak. Weak or feminine, right? 0.98

00:33:37.000 So then you have Hispanic and black men. 0.96

00:33:41.000 Who are saying, wait a second, I can't afford anything, I can't afford a home, homelessness is everywhere, drugs are the roof, everyone's miserable, COVID lockdowns, and I'm supposed to take more orders from women, which naturally, the way God designed them, they're not likely to take orders from women, just as it is. 0.98

00:33:56.000 And then you've got Kamala Harris scrowling at them, saying, like, sit down and shut up and give more power to the women, and they say, forget you. 1.00

00:34:05.000 I'm going to go to the... 0.95

00:34:06.000 Ultra Alpha.

00:34:07.000 And that explains the rebalance.

00:34:09.000 Is there any healing?

00:34:10.000 I don't know if that's the right word.

00:34:11.000 Is there any healing or anything on the horizon for the Democrat Party to fix?

00:34:18.000 Is there any?

00:34:19.000 They're doubling down.

00:34:20.000 They're going deeper into crazy land.

00:34:24.000 And I know the answer to this question.

00:34:26.000 I'm just saying I want this on the podcast.

00:34:29.000 Where is their answer?

00:34:30.000 They don't want God.

00:34:32.000 Their answer isn't Jesus, right?

00:34:33.000 Well, we know that, but they don't want Jesus because he's too whatever, whatever.

00:34:38.000 Too truthful.

00:34:39.000 I mean, look, if they were to moderate a little bit, then I think they might have some political future.

00:34:44.000 But again, I think it's all very spiritual fundamentally.

00:34:46.000 Absolutely. And they care more about earthly domination than we do.

00:34:52.000 They just do.

00:34:53.000 This is their whole ballgame, right?

00:34:55.000 As you know, Jesus said Satan was the prince of this world.

00:34:59.000 Paul called him the god of this world, right?

00:35:01.000 So Satan is really angry he doesn't control the White House right now.

00:35:06.000 Yeah. Because that is the most powerful office in the world.

00:35:09.000 To double down on what you just said, I think it was in the news today that Trump just nailed, or he's going to nail, funding for Planned Parenthood.

00:35:19.000 Praise the Lord.

00:35:20.000 Which, think about it.

00:35:21.000 Think about this.

00:35:22.000 Today we say Planned Parenthood.

00:35:25.000 We sterilize it all.

00:35:26.000 Step back 4,000 years ago.

00:35:28.000 We're talking about Moloch, Remphan, the deities, Baal. 1.00

00:35:34.000 We're talking about these shrines where they sacrificed babies.

00:35:37.000 And here we are in the 21st century sacrificing babies.

00:35:41.000 The architecture might have changed, but the demon spirits behind it have not gotten anywhere.

00:35:47.000 That's exactly right.

00:35:51.000 To contextualize that, then praise the president's great courage, is that there's something really perplexing.

00:35:59.000 The Aztecs, the Mayans, and the Incans never had contact with the Egyptians, the Indus River Valley, the Chinese, the Mesopotamians.

00:36:06.000 Yet all of them had ritualistic child sacrifice, where the most important thing they did religiously was to take a child to the high point, cut it open, and live it up to the guts.

00:36:18.000 That's... It's inexplicable unless you look at things through a spiritual lens.

00:36:22.000 That's right.

00:36:23.000 Period. That's right.

00:36:24.000 That they believed, or maybe there was, that they got some sort of earthly power through the sacrificing of children.

00:36:31.000 So fast forward to today, we have 1.5 million abortions a year, and it is the life force of the Democrat Party.

00:36:37.000 That's right.

00:36:37.000 What is the one thing the Democrat Party will not budge on?

00:36:41.000 It is no restrictions whatsoever for the massacring of children.

00:36:46.000 Because it's demonic.

00:36:47.000 Of course it is, yes.

00:36:48.000 And Christ said it's better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck and thrown into a lake than go after the least of these. 0.98

00:36:53.000 Right. And so the Democrat Party has an attachment to this that I think can only be explained through, you know, scripture.

00:36:59.000 That's right.

00:37:00.000 To go even a step further, President Trump now going after the funding of this makes the enemy very mad.

00:37:08.000 That's right.

00:37:08.000 The enemy wants more dead kids, has always and will always want them.

00:37:12.000 Yeah. Isn't it interesting because...

00:37:15.000 You look at the funding of it, where Jesus says, you can either serve God or mammon.

00:37:21.000 Mammon was the god of money.

00:37:23.000 And it's remarkable how, you're right, they are...

00:37:27.000 They've got to preserve that institution of child sacrifice, and money is the means by which they do that. 0.98

00:37:34.000 So you've got this dual-headed Medusa monster that they bow down and worship, though the trick is for Medusa to not get them to understand what they're really doing.

00:37:48.000 Correct. So they actually believe, I think some of them maybe actually believe, this is women's rights. 0.86

00:37:55.000 It's liberty.

00:37:55.000 It's women's freedom.

00:37:57.000 It's liberation.

00:37:59.000 It's literally the opposite.

00:38:00.000 But they've been so lied to to think that this decision, killing the baby, doing my own thing, it's my body.

00:38:10.000 They refuse to look at people who have already lived before them to find out this is a dead end.

00:38:16.000 It ends measurably.

00:38:18.000 Without a doubt.

00:38:19.000 And Seth Gruber had this great viral clip, and I know you like Seth a lot, where he argues, and I think it's a very profound point, that abortion is the inverse of the sacrament of communion.

00:38:29.000 Yes. And just a quick, I won't do it nearly as well as him, but it's very profound.

00:38:34.000 Communion says, this is my body.

00:38:36.000 And what do they say with abortion?

00:38:38.000 This is my body, my choice.

00:38:41.000 That it has ritualistic, religious practices behind it.

00:38:46.000 Yes. And it really makes you think the spiritual energy, the dark spiritual energy around the elimination of millions of children.

00:38:56.000 Yeah, absolutely insane.

00:38:57.000 Where's the country going, Charlie?

00:38:59.000 I don't know.

00:39:00.000 Right now, I mean, we're a couple months into what seems like Trump's been in office now for like a couple hundred years.

00:39:05.000 Praise the Lord.

00:39:06.000 It's been amazing, hasn't it?

00:39:06.000 It's the golden era.

00:39:07.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:39:10.000 Do you think we're going to survive the midterms?

00:39:13.000 Maybe, maybe not.

00:39:14.000 I'm not...

00:39:15.000 I put so much understand of my own energy and attention in this last election.

00:39:22.000 I'm just going to allow myself like a little calendar year to harvest it.

00:39:26.000 To breathe.

00:39:26.000 To breathe and to know, you know what?

00:39:28.000 And I said this to Erica.

00:39:29.000 I said, you know, when I wake up at 2 a.m. and I hear a noise, I no longer think it's going to be the FBI.

00:39:36.000 That's true.

00:39:37.000 For me, no, we were on the list.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:39:39.000 Now I know Kash Patel.

00:39:40.000 We're in a much better place.

00:39:41.000 You're not going to get that door kickdown.

00:39:42.000 I'm not going to get the 2 a.m. knock.

00:39:44.000 No, for four years...

00:39:45.000 That's right.

00:39:46.000 ...we lived under a Soviet-style sort of Damocles.

00:39:50.000 Yeah. It was kind of hanging over us.

00:39:51.000 Yeah. That could drop at any time.

00:39:53.000 Exactly. And that's why when Trump won, I had that kind of reaction that I did, which was just pure...

00:39:58.000 You know what's weird?

00:39:59.000 Of course, you don't live in California.

00:40:01.000 Those who do watching this right now who live in California, this is kind of...

00:40:06.000 It's kind of sad, but don't let it be sad.

00:40:09.000 I actually think it's a good thing for us so far.

00:40:12.000 So you've got to remember, in 2016, 2016, the nation celebrated the election of Donald Trump.

00:40:19.000 Nothing changed in California.

00:40:21.000 We didn't have a 2016, if you think about it.

00:40:24.000 And then we had a 2024.

00:40:29.000 Something did change in California this time.

00:40:31.000 It's changing profoundly, Joe.

00:40:32.000 If people doubt, now most Californians who are engaged and Christians who are engaged, we're elated right now because we're looking at how the counties went.

00:40:40.000 Charlie, I don't know if you know this or not, but ever since 2014, we've been gaining counties.

00:40:47.000 And in 2024, we gained 10 more counties than in 2016.

00:40:56.000 Ten more counties.

00:40:57.000 Mainly Hispanic counties.

00:40:58.000 Yes. And so there's this red that's taking place, and we're just excited.

00:41:04.000 There's some things that we'll talk about later off camera.

00:41:07.000 Well, you know what's fun about this, Charlie?

00:41:09.000 And I don't know how to say this rightly, and I'll say it gracefully, that our team, Real Impact, we've been doing this for, church started 36 years ago, we've been doing this for 30 years.

00:41:25.000 Voter registration.

00:41:26.000 You can register at our church to vote 52 weeks a year.

00:41:30.000 It's always been this way here.

00:41:31.000 Everybody at church, they know about propositions.

00:41:35.000 They know about legislation.

00:41:36.000 We've informed them.

00:41:38.000 All this kind of stuff, right?

00:41:40.000 Ballot. In California now, ballot collection.

00:41:43.000 We perfected it to the point where it's become now the model.

00:41:47.000 That said, you know what's amazing, Charlie?

00:41:51.000 Is that...

00:41:53.000 The culture has caught up to where we've been standing.

00:41:56.000 All the while, we were mocked and ridiculed as being the political ministry, the political pastor.

00:42:01.000 And I was never the political pastor.

00:42:03.000 I just blew the trumpet from the wall saying, we shouldn't be funding abortion, so vote for this person or don't vote for that person. 0.97

00:42:11.000 And I was quickly labeled as political.

00:42:13.000 But in reality, after all these decades, now people think we were prophetic.

00:42:18.000 How'd you know?

00:42:19.000 I didn't know anything.

00:42:21.000 The Bible says speak up for those who have no voice.

00:42:24.000 The Bible says to do righteousness.

00:42:26.000 And so here we are now, and I know people are going to think we're nuts, but I am thrilled to see what's about to happen in California.

00:42:34.000 Things have really started to shift, and we're delighted about that.

00:42:38.000 So, yeah.

00:42:39.000 And I hope Steve Hilton runs for governor.

00:42:43.000 If you want to make sense of the change and the chaos happening around us, you're going to need God's help.

00:42:48.000 That's why Alan Jackson Ministries, a friend of mine, created the Culture and Christianity Podcast, the Culture and Christianity Conference, and their weeknight news show, Alan Jackson Now.

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00:43:59.000 The half of California voters say they'd entertain voting for a Republican.

00:44:04.000 That's the latest one.

00:44:04.000 That's amazing.

00:44:05.000 And so it can be done.

00:44:06.000 And what you guys have done here in Chino and across this entire region, it's just amazing.

00:44:11.000 It's been a blast.

00:44:12.000 It's been a blast.

00:44:14.000 Turning point.

00:44:15.000 Tell us about it.

00:44:15.000 I can't imagine anyone joining us right now, they don't know about it, but assume they don't.

00:44:20.000 Tell them about it.

00:44:22.000 Tell them where they can connect with you and all that.

00:44:24.000 Thank you.

00:44:25.000 Turning Point USA is the largest youth organization on either the right or the left in the country.

00:44:30.000 It's, praise the Lord, it's massive.

00:44:32.000 On thousands of high school and college campuses across the country, people can check it out at tpusa.com.

00:44:37.000 We also have our political arm, Turning Point Action, that is causing all sorts of good trouble across the country.

00:44:42.000 Beautiful. tpaction.com.

00:44:44.000 I do a show every single day, two hours live.

00:44:47.000 People can check it out, Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:44:50.000 We're excited about next Wednesday.

00:44:52.000 You, a friend of...

00:44:54.000 Of ours is recuperating.

00:44:56.000 And you, I think it's next Wednesday, right?

00:44:59.000 Yeah, I lose track of days.

00:45:00.000 Of course you do.

00:45:01.000 I mean, you're on the go.

00:45:02.000 But you will be taking Dennis Prager's slot.

00:45:04.000 Very honored and very blessed to take his whole radio portfolio.

00:45:08.000 And we're praying for Dennis' recovery.

00:45:10.000 Absolutely. It's terrible what's happened to him.

00:45:12.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:45:13.000 So we're growing our radio footprint by 40% starting next week.

00:45:17.000 Yep, that's exactly right.

00:45:18.000 So you're going to keep up the college campus stuff?

00:45:21.000 You're going to keep that going?

00:45:22.000 Yeah, I mean, look, we see this as a unique opportunity.

00:45:24.000 It's key.

00:45:24.000 We see a cultural transformation moment where young people are starving for truth and we see this realignment occurring.

00:45:31.000 We want to try to drive some permanency there.

00:45:33.000 Yeah. We want to try to make it a permanent realignment.

00:45:37.000 And to try to bring this to the finish line.

00:45:39.000 And so I'm doing more campus stops than I've ever done this spring.

00:45:43.000 I have like 17 of them coming up.

00:45:45.000 And the videos go very viral.

00:45:48.000 And there's just one from University of Tennessee, this young lady, all about abortion. 0.84

00:45:53.000 It's been seen 45 million times.

00:45:55.000 So great.

00:45:56.000 It's actually of my 13 years of doing this.

00:45:59.000 It might be my favorite abortion dialogue I've ever had because she perfectly embodies the hostile, narcissistic nature of the abortion debate. 0.93

00:46:08.000 I don't know if you've seen this one, but it's really intense and the audience tends to like it.

00:46:13.000 And so not only will we be doing this stuff on the ground, we're drawing huge crowds.

00:46:16.000 We're going to Oklahoma State soon.

00:46:17.000 We're going all across the country.

00:46:19.000 We're going to Purdue.

00:46:20.000 We're going to Illinois State.

00:46:22.000 We're going to Michigan State.

00:46:23.000 We're going to Boise University of Wyoming.

00:46:25.000 We're going to Texas A&M and University of South Carolina.

00:46:28.000 Who invites you on there?

00:46:29.000 How is it that you guys get onto any campus?

00:46:31.000 Well, we have a turning point chapter, so that helps.

00:46:32.000 So the chapter invites you?

00:46:34.000 Yeah, and it's a whole process.

00:46:35.000 Perfect. The bureaucracy that we have to do.

00:46:37.000 Exactly why I'm asking.

00:46:38.000 Oh, it is...

00:46:39.000 Credit to our team and our staff at Turning Point USA.

00:46:43.000 They don't get the credit they deserve because I get to show up.

00:46:45.000 I have the easy part, right?

00:46:46.000 I show up.

00:46:47.000 Everyone's there.

00:46:47.000 They're applauding.

00:46:48.000 I throw out hats.

00:46:49.000 All the cameras are all set up.

00:46:51.000 But, Jack, it is going through East Germany.

00:46:55.000 That's right.

00:46:56.000 I mean, at every...

00:46:57.000 We'll show up on campus.

00:46:58.000 They have to check all the boxes.

00:47:00.000 What are these cameras for?

00:47:01.000 I mean, it's like, well, where's your permit?

00:47:02.000 You're not allowed to set up until this time in advance.

00:47:03.000 What is your papers?

00:47:05.000 No, seriously.

00:47:06.000 And, again, I...

00:47:07.000 The public gets to see this now cultural phenomenon that we've been blessed to participate in, but the staff have done just yeoman's work helping make it happen.

00:47:17.000 There's people on the other end asking something like, what's Trump like in person?

00:47:23.000 He's the same in private as he is in public.

00:47:26.000 I will say he's incredibly warm.

00:47:28.000 He's sharper than I've ever seen him.

00:47:30.000 He's a listener, huh?

00:47:31.000 He's a big listener.

00:47:32.000 He's actually in the best place that I've ever seen him since I've got to know him.

00:47:37.000 He's full of gratitude.

00:47:38.000 He's very centered.

00:47:39.000 He's more calm.

00:47:40.000 He's very calm.

00:47:40.000 He's very stoic, which is one of my favorite words to describe a leader who's really in the zone.

00:47:48.000 Someone who knows why he's there and has a purpose.

00:47:52.000 And through every lens, he asks the question, what did I promise voters?

00:47:58.000 And what is good for the country.

00:48:00.000 Every time.

00:48:01.000 Those two things.

00:48:02.000 So to complete the point, which I didn't do earlier, I apologize.

00:48:05.000 He has now significantly cut Planned Parenthood funding.

00:48:09.000 Imagine a pastor who said, don't go vote for Trump.

00:48:11.000 I know it!

00:48:12.000 Right? And he's standing by Israel, and he is securing the border and going after sex traffickers.

00:48:19.000 I mean...

00:48:20.000 If any pastor was either silent or did not at least make the case for the policies, I understand he's a man, he's a sinner, we're all sinners.

00:48:28.000 But you have some repenting to do.

00:48:30.000 Absolutely. Because look at the goodness coming out of this administration right now for biblical principles.

00:48:35.000 Isn't that sad that they can't separate the fact that they...

00:48:41.000 I'm sorry I have to say this.

00:48:43.000 It looks to me they're theoretically teaching the Bible on a Sunday.

00:48:48.000 No way do they expect their congregants to go do Christianity on Monday.

00:48:53.000 Because if they expect that to happen, that's really disciple-making, well then they're going to get into the trenches and have to deal with life.

00:49:00.000 Wait a minute.

00:49:00.000 When the pastor says amen and the people go back to their world, they're at the company in the trenches.

00:49:07.000 That's right.

00:49:08.000 I just, you know, woe to the pastor who's not equipping his flock in a day like this.

00:49:13.000 And you're missing out.

00:49:14.000 As I say, there are millions of young men, especially, that are wanting to come to your church.

00:49:20.000 And if you are not speaking truth, they're not going to reward you with their time.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, amazing.

00:49:26.000 Wrapping this up, though I don't want to, we've got other things to go do.

00:49:30.000 We've got a whole thing to go do.

00:49:31.000 We've got a whole night to do.

00:49:33.000 Am I exaggerating when I say that looking around the best I can over history, I've never seen a more competent cabinet in American history?

00:49:44.000 I can't point to another example.

00:49:46.000 I mean, not only competent, but fiercely loyal.

00:49:49.000 And I think, and I know that we're going to talk about this in a little bit, Jack, but how, I did a happening now with you back in...

00:49:59.000 Either January, February 2021.

00:50:01.000 I'm going to find the date.

00:50:02.000 It was right as Biden became president.

00:50:04.000 And it was like the lowest of the low.

00:50:06.000 And I remember the vibe that night was not...

00:50:09.000 It was bad.

00:50:11.000 Now we look four years later and we say, you know what?

00:50:15.000 I'm glad we didn't win that.

00:50:16.000 I am too.

00:50:17.000 And it's the most amazing, humbling thing.

00:50:20.000 Only God can do that.

00:50:21.000 And your losses become your victories and your failures become your triumphs.

00:50:27.000 And it is Genesis 50-20, right?

00:50:29.000 Which is what the enemy meant for evil, God will use for good.

00:50:32.000 Or Romans 8-28, for God will use all things for good, those who love him.

00:50:36.000 And you did an amazing teaching on Romans.

00:50:38.000 I've loved every minute of it.

00:50:39.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:50:39.000 And so, you just look, I just think it's a great teaching for us.

00:50:43.000 Because I remember being here, Jack.

00:50:45.000 Everyone thought it was the end of the world, the end of America, and there is no hope.

00:50:49.000 But imagine if we would have kept on to power.

00:50:51.000 We would not have Tulsi Gabbard.

00:50:53.000 That's right.

00:50:53.000 We would not have Bobby Kennedy.

00:50:54.000 We wouldn't have J.D. Vance.

00:50:56.000 Right. And I don't think we would have had the cultural conversion of these students and these young people.

00:51:02.000 Not even close. 1.00

00:51:03.000 Because God used the immorality, the stupidity, the horrific nature that the Democrat Party is. 1.00

00:51:13.000 God exposed it. 1.00

00:51:14.000 Otherwise it wouldn't have been exposed.

00:51:16.000 Maybe later down in life.

00:51:18.000 But looking back, much of their fumbling had to...

00:51:23.000 Resulted in people who were somewhat independent to think, I'm not going that direction anymore, and I'm going to go with Trump.

00:51:31.000 At least we know what he's like four years ago.

00:51:34.000 And, no, isn't it amazing?

00:51:36.000 We never would have humanly engineered, hey, let's do this.

00:51:39.000 Run, win for four years, then lose, and then run again.

00:51:44.000 In a very...

00:51:45.000 Awful way, right?

00:51:46.000 I mean, just like... 0.99

00:51:47.000 And get shot. 0.98

00:51:48.000 Get shot, and then almost shot again. 0.92

00:51:50.000 Yeah. I mean, the Lord has his hand on Trump through this entire process.

00:51:54.000 And anyone who fails to see that is just...

00:51:57.000 Yeah, absolutely amazing.

00:51:58.000 Well, Charlie, we love you.

00:51:59.000 The nation loves you.

00:52:01.000 Listen, I pray for you.

00:52:02.000 Thank you for being a mentor.

00:52:03.000 You know, you know, I pray for you all the time.

00:52:07.000 And by the way, people, you don't know this, but Charlie will send Bible verses.

00:52:15.000 And to think, well, yeah, he just sends that out because it's like a mass announcement to everybody.

00:52:21.000 Let me tell you, Charlie will send me a Bible verse and I'll say, that's an awesome verse.

00:52:26.000 And within three minutes, Charlie will say, I just read it this morning.

00:52:30.000 It's just cranking up my life.

00:52:32.000 So please pray for him that God keeps you where you're at.

00:52:38.000 Let this go to your heart and not your head.

00:52:41.000 You are...

00:52:43.000 Public enemy number one to Satan's agenda.

00:52:48.000 And so on behalf of a very, very grateful Christian community, we love you dearly.

00:52:55.000 We pray for you.

00:52:56.000 And yeah, just keep going because obviously if God grants this nation time, the place in history that Charlie Kirk's name will appear.

00:53:12.000 We'll be incredibly epic.

00:53:15.000 And that is something that you must make sure it's to your heart and not your head.

00:53:21.000 Because we cannot have you fumble. 0.87

00:53:25.000 As much as God loves you, Charlie, Satan hates your guts.

00:53:28.000 So we will continue to pray.

00:53:30.000 People, listen, we will keep Charlie going.

00:53:33.000 You guys keep praying.

00:53:35.000 Turning Point USA, follow everything that Charlie's involved in.

00:53:40.000 His radio program, the streaming, the rallies.

00:53:46.000 Just over-the-top fantastic.

00:53:48.000 And we can't say enough.

00:53:49.000 He's a national treasure, and he's also a treasure within the Church of Jesus.

00:53:54.000 And so, Charlie, God bless you, brother.

00:53:56.000 It's so much.

00:53:57.000 We just love you so much.

00:53:58.000 Thank you for everything.

00:53:59.000 Take care.

00:53:59.000 God bless.

00:54:00.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:54:01.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:54:04.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 20, 2025

"The Gospel of Truth is Going to Be Offensive." ft. Pastor Jack Hibbs

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