Charlie Kirk is a man of many talents, but what makes him even more special is that he is the President of Turning Point USA, an organization dedicated to fighting for freedom on college campuses across the country. Charlie is also a radio host and host of The Charlie Kirk Show on SiriusXM Radio.
00:00:47.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:54.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:31.000Hey everybody, welcome back to the Jack Hibbs Podcast.
00:01:33.000We are excited and thrilled to not only have a friend with us, but a man that needs no introduction, literally.
00:01:40.000God has been using this guy tremendously.
00:01:42.000I think we were talking a moment ago that ever since 2020, when we first met, we have just watched this young man's career explode, and for good reason, because I believe, without exaggeration, We have a national treasure in our midst.
00:02:00.000And I don't want to embarrass him, but please welcome Charlie Kirk, brother.
00:03:51.000It's just so much different than looking just through a screen.
00:03:55.000He was like, look, I want to try to learn from you, pick your brain.
00:03:58.000It was difficult because I wanted to be more aggressive, but when he's throwing praise on you, even though it's all fake and flattery and slippery, deceit.
00:04:07.000Optics look bad if you went in the text.
00:04:09.000Exactly. So I still, I think, pressed him.
00:05:08.000I think this whole project is that he knows that people classify him as a very radical California governor, and he wants to try to moderate himself in the views of American voters.
00:05:19.000The Democrat Party, though, wants nothing to do with any form of moderation.
00:05:42.000Obviously a hypocrite and a liar because that biological man is about to win the state championship right now in the long jump here in this state of California and he's done nothing about it.
00:05:51.000So it's all just rhetorical nonsense from him trying to win over political favor.
00:05:57.000The Gavin Newsom experiment is going to be really interesting to see where the state of the Democrat Party actually is.
00:06:03.000Because they should moderate on some of these issues.
00:06:06.000They should come towards common sense on it.
00:06:09.000I think they're so married to their base on these.
00:06:13.000Fundamental issues of open borders and defund the police and rioting and arson and crime and shutting down schools and vaccine mandates and then, of course, the men and female sports.
00:06:24.000And if he even went away from it on a minute level, and if I had more time with him, I would have...
00:06:35.000is held captive to a pagan religion that is the Democrat Party.
00:06:39.000And this is what drives me nuts when pastors are indifferent about getting involved in politics.
00:06:44.000Politics is merely a manifestation of a spiritual battle.
00:06:49.000I know you and I will dialogue about this further, that there's really two worldviews.
00:06:53.000There's one where you believe in Genesis 1-1, God created the heavens and the earth, in the beginning God created everything, or one that is a manifestation of the pagan river civilizations of old.
00:07:03.000Atheism really is just a small fringe.
00:07:06.000There's very few people that believe in no God.
00:07:22.000More than ever, would you agree, more than ever, now look, I'm old enough to be your dad, so for as long as I've been alive, I have never seen it so black and white, so divided, so crystal clear, that it's no longer...
00:07:40.000There for someone to say, well, you know, I'm a Democrat, but I'm definitely more like a JFK Democrat.
00:09:52.000Even more so that's really exciting from a religious Christian perspective is that during COVID we saw a deep deacceleration of the church.
00:10:00.000We saw a lot of people walk away from the church.
00:10:02.000Thankfully, praise God, the New York Times had to publish a story that's actually plateaued.
00:10:43.000And I am first and foremost a Christian and a follower of Jesus.
00:10:47.000My profession, though, is to try to fight for the best political system, but I'm unafraid to talk about matters of spirituality and abortion, and those always come up, and that's the key, is that eventually...
00:10:58.000The person will come up to the microphone and they'll ask a question about ultimate truth and ultimate principles.
00:11:03.000There is a revival waiting to happen right now.
00:11:06.000And I wish more churches and pastors were like yourself, waiting to receive them.
00:11:09.000Well, honestly, without boasting, I'm announcing I wish other pastors would for this one reason.
00:12:42.000We're seeing this with Trump and his policies.
00:12:46.000Our hope is that there'll be a spiritual revival within the church because I'm a little bit concerned where men like Elon Musk get more persecution than the pastor.
00:14:42.000And I think that's why Satan, the spiritual darkness of this world, goes after men.
00:14:47.000Exactly. You control a man, you castrate a man speaking, socially speaking, in other ways, sometimes literally, and then you remove the man that God designed to be a leader, then the culture falls apart.
00:15:03.000The battle between good and evil seems to be escalating.
00:15:06.000It is easy to blame politicians, government, or poor leadership, but behind all of that is a spiritual battle.
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00:15:31.000You can find them playing a variety of roles throughout the Bible, and they're still influencing the world today.
00:15:36.000We don't need to be afraid, but we do need to be aware and prepared.
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00:16:08.000And a lot of these pastors are unequipped, ill-equipped to be able to communicate to this young man.
00:16:14.000So let's just say a young man comes to a local pastor.
00:16:17.000Understand he has been conditioned through social media of watching myself, watching you, watching Matt Walsh of...
00:16:31.000And yet he goes, and the pastor is doing well, you know, maybe there's no difference between heaven or hell, and maybe homosexuality's fine.
00:16:40.000And this young man says, forget it, this is a waste of time.
00:20:33.000They're looking for meaning and they find that meaning in societal macro-shaping.
00:20:39.000But then you kind of go to your suburban mom, right?
00:20:41.000The suburban mom, they tend to not be as religious as suburban women used to be.
00:20:47.000They'll be, like, spiritual, so they might find a local church that is in that heretical mold, but they will not necessarily glean towards a Jack Kibbs church.
00:22:59.000If you go to a random party and you sit next to a guy, he's going to talk to you about sports, the stock market, political affairs, or the end of the world.
00:23:07.000Right? Basically the most macro topics that you could imagine.
00:24:05.000So when it comes to women in leadership, whatever that might look like, they will hyper-emphasize conversations or whatever little detail that might be plaguing the group.
00:24:17.000When there might be a much bigger issue at play.
00:24:21.000So when we get, we now look at societal, and your question was about Trump with suburban women, many of them are not necessarily in happy marriages, and they have an idea of what they think the Western man should be.
00:24:35.000And their idea of the Western man is largely born out of a concept that came out of college where they think the Western man should at best be egalitarian with the woman.
00:24:45.000Or at worst, that we need a woman to be superior to the man.
00:24:50.000And so we've lived in this feminist lie, whether we realize it or not, the last 40 years, right?
00:25:43.000Well, listen, I've got to tell you, Lisa and I have been involved in marital counseling for over 36 years with people, and it's remarkable because not to destroy the man and not to destroy the woman, but you said something that people need to know about, people need to hear, especially the young people, is that a woman who,
00:26:01.000I'll just use the term, samples the field.
00:27:29.000Now, if there's a woman out there that might have five-plus sexual partners, you can deal with that with counseling and should be addressed.
00:30:03.000You can almost see people, if we have our TV muted, before they identify who they are, you can see who a conservative is by the face and who the progressive is.
00:30:46.000You've never been a joyful person without gratitude.
00:30:48.000Now, if you are a liberal, that means you want to liberate, which means you want to change, which means definitionally you don't have gratitude, you have ingratitude.
00:31:40.000I know, it's obvious, but the point needs to be emphasized that from his body posture to his stamina to his unapologetic nature to his hyper-aggression to his ferocity, you look at that and you say, you could call him a lot of things, but definitely not on the feminine spectrum.
00:31:57.000So therefore, he was, in a lot of ways, a cultural healing point.
00:32:03.000As we lived under the constant apologizing for America, the political correctness BS, the pronoun police, we're going to come after your kids, and Donald Trump represented the metaphorical dad coming home to restore order to society.
00:32:18.000Is that the same reason why we've seen a tremendous shift among black men?
00:33:37.000So then you have Hispanic and black men.
00:33:41.000Who are saying, wait a second, I can't afford anything, I can't afford a home, homelessness is everywhere, drugs are the roof, everyone's miserable, COVID lockdowns, and I'm supposed to take more orders from women, which naturally, the way God designed them, they're not likely to take orders from women, just as it is.
00:33:56.000And then you've got Kamala Harris scrowling at them, saying, like, sit down and shut up and give more power to the women, and they say, forget you.
00:34:55.000As you know, Jesus said Satan was the prince of this world.
00:34:59.000Paul called him the god of this world, right?
00:35:01.000So Satan is really angry he doesn't control the White House right now.
00:35:06.000Yeah. Because that is the most powerful office in the world.
00:35:09.000To double down on what you just said, I think it was in the news today that Trump just nailed, or he's going to nail, funding for Planned Parenthood.
00:35:51.000To contextualize that, then praise the president's great courage, is that there's something really perplexing.
00:35:59.000The Aztecs, the Mayans, and the Incans never had contact with the Egyptians, the Indus River Valley, the Chinese, the Mesopotamians.
00:36:06.000Yet all of them had ritualistic child sacrifice, where the most important thing they did religiously was to take a child to the high point, cut it open, and live it up to the guts.
00:36:18.000That's... It's inexplicable unless you look at things through a spiritual lens.
00:37:23.000And it's remarkable how, you're right, they are...
00:37:27.000They've got to preserve that institution of child sacrifice, and money is the means by which they do that.
00:37:34.000So you've got this dual-headed Medusa monster that they bow down and worship, though the trick is for Medusa to not get them to understand what they're really doing.
00:37:48.000Correct. So they actually believe, I think some of them maybe actually believe, this is women's rights.
00:38:19.000And Seth Gruber had this great viral clip, and I know you like Seth a lot, where he argues, and I think it's a very profound point, that abortion is the inverse of the sacrament of communion.
00:38:29.000Yes. And just a quick, I won't do it nearly as well as him, but it's very profound.
00:40:32.000If people doubt, now most Californians who are engaged and Christians who are engaged, we're elated right now because we're looking at how the counties went.
00:40:40.000Charlie, I don't know if you know this or not, but ever since 2014, we've been gaining counties.
00:40:47.000And in 2024, we gained 10 more counties than in 2016.
00:40:58.000Yes. And so there's this red that's taking place, and we're just excited.
00:41:04.000There's some things that we'll talk about later off camera.
00:41:07.000Well, you know what's fun about this, Charlie?
00:41:09.000And I don't know how to say this rightly, and I'll say it gracefully, that our team, Real Impact, we've been doing this for, church started 36 years ago, we've been doing this for 30 years.
00:42:39.000And I hope Steve Hilton runs for governor.
00:42:43.000If you want to make sense of the change and the chaos happening around us, you're going to need God's help.
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00:43:07.000In today's world, there's desperate need for truth, and Alan Jackson Ministries feels a sense of urgency to deliver God's truth and a biblical perspective to anyone who will listen.
00:43:21.000Their mission is to help people become more fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ, which is the most important thing, giving your life to the Lord, including here on The Charlie Kirk Show.
00:45:56.000It's actually of my 13 years of doing this.
00:45:59.000It might be my favorite abortion dialogue I've ever had because she perfectly embodies the hostile, narcissistic nature of the abortion debate.
00:46:08.000I don't know if you've seen this one, but it's really intense and the audience tends to like it.
00:46:13.000And so not only will we be doing this stuff on the ground, we're drawing huge crowds.
00:47:07.000The public gets to see this now cultural phenomenon that we've been blessed to participate in, but the staff have done just yeoman's work helping make it happen.
00:47:17.000There's people on the other end asking something like, what's Trump like in person?
00:47:23.000He's the same in private as he is in public.
00:48:20.000If any pastor was either silent or did not at least make the case for the policies, I understand he's a man, he's a sinner, we're all sinners.
00:48:43.000It looks to me they're theoretically teaching the Bible on a Sunday.
00:48:48.000No way do they expect their congregants to go do Christianity on Monday.
00:48:53.000Because if they expect that to happen, that's really disciple-making, well then they're going to get into the trenches and have to deal with life.
00:49:33.000Am I exaggerating when I say that looking around the best I can over history, I've never seen a more competent cabinet in American history?