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00:02:24.000Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:26.000I'm super thrilled to have this exclusive insight and guest of ours here, joined our show a couple weeks ago and has been doing some amazing work with the Voter Integrity Project, now famously known as VIP.
00:02:41.000Matt Brainard, I hope I pronounced that correctly.
00:02:44.000Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:50.000Give us your update of what's going on.
00:02:52.000You're about to testify at the Arizona hearing here in Phoenix.
00:02:58.000What have you been discovering with the important work you've been doing with the Voter Integrity Project?
00:03:02.000Well, we wrapped up most of the investigation work and analysis late last week.
00:03:07.000And the conclusion I reached that I shared is that based solely on our data, not on anybody else's data or theories or not even on other analyses that was done using our data, we concluded that the winner of the presidential election cannot be determined.
00:03:26.000There are enough questionable ballots to put that into doubt.
00:03:29.000This has been an issue in several elections in the past and states and municipalities.
00:03:34.000We can say fairly conclusively is that the actual winner of this election is unclear because of how many illegal ballots or how many ballots we strongly believe were illegal have been cast in some of the pivotal states because we cannot say with confidence that Joe Biden won the state of Wisconsin, Georgia, or Arizona on the basis of our findings.
00:03:54.000And without those, he doesn't become the president or he's not rightfully elected president because were Trump to have won those states, they would go to the House of Representatives and then he would be reelected because of the way the elections are working when state delegations get to choose essentially the next president.
00:04:14.000So based on our findings, we can't say conclusively that Biden won.
00:04:20.000But again, just on our narrow analysis where we have names, addresses, phone numbers of people who should not have cast ballots, didn't meet residency requirements, et cetera, or said that they didn't vote even though a ballot was cast in their name, we are able to reach basically the numbers of the margins in those three states.
00:04:36.000Well, I first want to compliment you because you guys have been relentless.
00:04:39.000You have been focused and you've really been effective in what you've been doing.
00:04:45.000I have a lot of questions for you, but I want to start with one that has kind of been breaking.
00:04:50.000Reports are showing that the Federal Bureau of Investigation contacted you for some of your data.
00:05:36.000That's one of the phenomenon that we didn't set out to study, but we ended up discovering it thanks to the work of one of our satellite teams led by Justin.
00:05:46.000And so I have to give him a shout out.
00:05:48.000But when you register to vote, you actually have to put where you live, where you physically live, reside.
00:05:53.000And, you know, if you're homeless, it can be a park or a homeless shelter or a church or something like that.
00:05:58.000Or if you live in your car, you know, down on your luck, that's fine.
00:06:02.000You can list wherever you park at whatever.
00:06:04.000It has to be where you actually reside.
00:06:06.000What we found in large numbers in Philadelphia or Pennsylvania and Georgia, and we're actually finding similar numbers now in Michigan, is that a lot of people, they registered their physical location at this, that looks like 123 Happy Lane, apartment 12.
00:06:23.000But it turns out 123 Happy Lane is a postal facility, and there's no apartment 12.
00:07:09.000And that matches exactly with so many people on the voter list who are not just on the voter list, but voted.
00:07:14.000And beyond that, though, the way they registered themselves or whoever registered them, they registered as apartment or suite or unit number, not P.O. box number.
00:07:25.000Because if you put P.O. box number, it bounces you out of the system because it's not legitimate.
00:07:28.000So this is a certain level of deceptiveness that we stumbled onto.0.95
00:07:33.000And it's a significant number of people in Georgia.
00:07:37.000And so incredibly, wouldn't the Secretary of State's office, they would be tasked with proving the authenticity of the integrity of people that register to vote?
00:07:47.000I mean, call me old school, but even when I registered to vote in the corrupt state of Illinois, I had to register to vote with a voter ID.
00:07:55.000Now, I didn't have to vote with the voter ID, but when I had to register, I had to at least prove that I was living where I was registering to vote.
00:08:02.000How is it possible in a Republican state, Georgia?
00:08:04.000I'm just asking is just to be curious that you could register as basically in the side of a barn door.
00:08:12.000And our plan is, as we ramp this project up, is as we've kind of finished our investigation, is we're going to be putting together a FedEx pack for each of the six states that we've investigated and addressing one to the Attorney General of each state and the Board of Elections or Secretary of State, who's ever most in charge.
00:08:28.000We're going to drop the documents and a USB jump drive with all the names, all the data on it, and tell them they've got to investigate this.
00:08:36.000And we're going to be counting on people like you and people on Twitter, et cetera, to get people to call those secretary states, call those attorney generals, to turn up the heat and say, okay, here's evidence.
00:09:02.000And that's a very important distinction, right?
00:09:05.000Because if the Federalist papers talk about this, the House of Representatives should then remedy anything that cannot be conclusively determined who is the winner.
00:09:15.000And, you know, what's interesting is this used to be a big issue on the left.
00:09:19.000They used to make a lot of noise about the problems of potential mail-in ballots because historically it was Republicans who voted overwhelmingly with mail-in ballots.
00:09:27.000So here's, and I just want to quote you in New York.
00:09:30.000This is the New York Times, said, voting by mail is now common enough and problematic enough that election experts say there have been multiple elections in which no one can say with confidence which candidate was the deserved winner.
00:09:42.000And now we're in that situation with the presidency and suddenly this stuff, I don't know, they don't know what no one wants to talk to me anymore.
00:10:12.000Yeah, I'm going to review the findings of our analyses in Arizona and if they have questions about other states.
00:10:18.000And I'm actually going to have a little audio visual element.
00:10:21.000I've got recordings of people our call center call telling our people that they did not cast the ballot or that they did not request an absentee ballot, which is another huge problem is that we sort of took a shot in the dark and thought, you know, there are a lot of unreturned absentee ballots.
00:10:35.000I wonder if these people actually request them.
00:10:37.000And we found in Arizona, almost half the people that we reached who got an absentee ballot but didn't return it told us that they never requested it in the first place.
00:10:45.000So who requested these absentee ballots in their names?
00:11:12.000Something funny about Arizona, unlike all the other states.
00:11:14.000In Arizona, we're actually only dealing with data for Maricopa County.
00:11:18.000It's not been available for anybody else.
00:11:19.000So we're only looking at early absentee voters in Maricopa County alone.
00:11:24.000And even among them, we've shown that these tremendous numbers.
00:11:28.000And Maricopa is obviously the biggest county, the one that had the most stunning kind of turn of events.
00:11:33.000It's traditionally a Republican county.
00:11:35.000But I guarantee you, if you looked into Pima County, which is a traditional Democrat stronghold, you'd find the same sort of irregularities in the state of Arizona.
00:11:44.000So what you're telling me is that you did a 2,000-person universe and 1,000 out of the 2,000 were shown to be not, they said, I did not request a ballot or I did not vote by mail.
00:12:56.000Did you find that kind of irregularity of ballots not being sent in Georgia and Pennsylvania as well?
00:13:02.000We found it a phenomenon in all six of the states that we investigated in all of them.
00:13:09.000You know, as many as usually as low as 18% of the people who received absentee ballots who didn't request them, I mean, sorry, who didn't return them.
00:13:17.000So that's already kind of an artificial number because we were only talking to people who the state said they sent a ballot, but didn't get one back from them.
00:13:24.000And then even among those who did request the ballot, many of them said they sent them back, which is a phenomenon on its own.
00:13:30.000People sending their ballots back saying we never got them.
00:13:33.000And that's also significant in all these states, statistically significant.
00:13:38.000So actually, you know, in Michigan, for example, we actually decided to do a supplemental program just reaching out to everybody who got an absentee ballot, whether they returned it or not, everybody in Michigan.
00:13:49.000And we found that 13% of them never requested it or told us they'd never requested it.
00:13:54.000So the numbers can be much higher because talking to a stranger on a phone, some people are a little bit cautious about that.
00:14:38.000So the only theoretical solution, I'm not proposing this, but in my mind, you'd have to basically spend about three months cleaning the state's voter lists and then have a new election.
00:14:53.000Yeah, but it's not fantasy to all of a sudden say we are going to push this to the House of Representatives if the election is tainted, which based on all of your findings, it very much shows that it is.
00:15:08.000Are you going to make this publicly available?
00:15:12.000I'm putting together a white paper that's going to have as much of this available as possible.
00:15:17.000One of the challenges I have as I've gone through this, I've realized is that originally what my plan was to just put all the data out there, right?
00:15:24.000Of all the names of all the people we found, et cetera.
00:15:27.000The problem is that if I do that, my means of distributing it, primarily Twitter and some other social networks, would actually delete my account because that in their book is doc sync, even though it's all public information.
00:15:39.000So what I've done doing instead is I'm providing the raw data to law enforcement agencies, to attorneys who are going into court where it makes sense, and then providing a very information-rich white paper.
00:15:50.000I also have journalists coming over to my headquarters sitting next to me where I can visually show it to them so they can kind of verify that I'm not making all this stuff up.
00:15:59.000I'd be happy to do that with you if we have time this evening.
00:16:02.000Yeah, just text, I mean, just text me because we're both kind of in the same place here and we've been kind of manning the battleship here.
00:16:08.000I'd love to go through this and be able to kind of take eyes on it.
00:16:14.000I know you have to go testify here, Matt, and I wanted to do this kind of quick interview.
00:16:17.000We'll post it immediately because it takes a lot of guts and it takes a lot of perseverance to go through it because I'm sure you receive your fair share of backlash and people trying to demean your efforts.
00:16:30.000So how can people get behind you and support what you're doing?