The Charlie Kirk Show - The Great Mail-In Ballot Heist with Matt Braynard

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00:00:00.000 On this flash episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Matt Brainard from the Voter Integrity Project has some bombshell revelations that he's been working on from a data perspective, citizen-run data journalism.

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00:02:24.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:24.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:26.000 I'm super thrilled to have this exclusive insight and guest of ours here, joined our show a couple weeks ago and has been doing some amazing work with the Voter Integrity Project, now famously known as VIP.

00:02:41.000 Matt Brainard, I hope I pronounced that correctly.

00:02:44.000 Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:46.000 I'm glad to be back.

00:02:47.000 Thanks for having me.

00:02:48.000 The floor is yours.

00:02:50.000 Give us your update of what's going on.

00:02:52.000 You're about to testify at the Arizona hearing here in Phoenix.

00:02:58.000 What have you been discovering with the important work you've been doing with the Voter Integrity Project?

00:03:02.000 Well, we wrapped up most of the investigation work and analysis late last week.

00:03:07.000 And the conclusion I reached that I shared is that based solely on our data, not on anybody else's data or theories or not even on other analyses that was done using our data, we concluded that the winner of the presidential election cannot be determined.

00:03:26.000 There are enough questionable ballots to put that into doubt.

00:03:29.000 This has been an issue in several elections in the past and states and municipalities.

00:03:34.000 We can say fairly conclusively is that the actual winner of this election is unclear because of how many illegal ballots or how many ballots we strongly believe were illegal have been cast in some of the pivotal states because we cannot say with confidence that Joe Biden won the state of Wisconsin, Georgia, or Arizona on the basis of our findings.

00:03:54.000 And without those, he doesn't become the president or he's not rightfully elected president because were Trump to have won those states, they would go to the House of Representatives and then he would be reelected because of the way the elections are working when state delegations get to choose essentially the next president.

00:04:14.000 So based on our findings, we can't say conclusively that Biden won.

00:04:18.000 He may have won, Trump may have won.

00:04:20.000 But again, just on our narrow analysis where we have names, addresses, phone numbers of people who should not have cast ballots, didn't meet residency requirements, et cetera, or said that they didn't vote even though a ballot was cast in their name, we are able to reach basically the numbers of the margins in those three states.

00:04:36.000 Well, I first want to compliment you because you guys have been relentless.

00:04:39.000 You have been focused and you've really been effective in what you've been doing.

00:04:45.000 I have a lot of questions for you, but I want to start with one that has kind of been breaking.

00:04:50.000 Reports are showing that the Federal Bureau of Investigation contacted you for some of your data.

00:04:55.000 Is this true?

00:04:56.000 And can you add some context to that?

00:04:59.000 I've made a tweet saying that the FBI reached out to us proactively, although we were intending to share everything with them anyway.

00:05:07.000 And I have nothing more to say about it.

00:05:10.000 Okay, that's fair enough.

00:05:11.000 And I appreciate that.

00:05:13.000 I think everybody listening knows exactly what that means.

00:05:16.000 Can you share some specifics about what you've been finding?

00:05:20.000 I have been reading a lot of your tweets and your information.

00:05:25.000 Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're finding that a lot of people are registering to vote at mailboxes or postal service locations.

00:05:33.000 Is that correct?

00:05:34.000 Can you help explain that for us?

00:05:36.000 Sure.

00:05:36.000 That's one of the phenomenon that we didn't set out to study, but we ended up discovering it thanks to the work of one of our satellite teams led by Justin.

00:05:46.000 And so I have to give him a shout out.

00:05:48.000 But when you register to vote, you actually have to put where you live, where you physically live, reside.

00:05:53.000 And, you know, if you're homeless, it can be a park or a homeless shelter or a church or something like that.

00:05:58.000 Or if you live in your car, you know, down on your luck, that's fine.

00:06:02.000 You can list wherever you park at whatever.

00:06:04.000 It has to be where you actually reside.

00:06:06.000 What we found in large numbers in Philadelphia or Pennsylvania and Georgia, and we're actually finding similar numbers now in Michigan, is that a lot of people, they registered their physical location at this, that looks like 123 Happy Lane, apartment 12.

00:06:23.000 But it turns out 123 Happy Lane is a postal facility, and there's no apartment 12.

00:06:28.000 It's P.O. Box 12.

00:06:30.000 So not only are these not valid addresses to register, it seems that there was an intent to disguise a P.O. box as a residential address.

00:06:37.000 And we've discovered a tremendous amount of these.

00:06:39.000 And the thing about this is that there's no doubt that these are not legitimately registered voters.

00:06:45.000 And these aren't just people we found on the registered voter list.

00:06:48.000 These are people who cast ballots.

00:06:49.000 And interestingly enough, overwhelmingly cast them by a mail, not showing up in person, but by mail.

00:06:55.000 They voted by mail.

00:06:56.000 And not only is this, I mean, the Postal Service gives a list of all of its lease locations.

00:07:01.000 You can pull any of these up on Google and see, oh, that's a UPS store, a FedEx store, or a postal facility.

00:07:08.000 So that's public.

00:07:09.000 And that matches exactly with so many people on the voter list who are not just on the voter list, but voted.

00:07:14.000 And beyond that, though, the way they registered themselves or whoever registered them, they registered as apartment or suite or unit number, not P.O. box number.

00:07:25.000 Because if you put P.O. box number, it bounces you out of the system because it's not legitimate.

00:07:25.000 Why?

00:07:28.000 So this is a certain level of deceptiveness that we stumbled onto. 0.95

00:07:33.000 And it's a significant number of people in Georgia.

00:07:37.000 And so incredibly, wouldn't the Secretary of State's office, they would be tasked with proving the authenticity of the integrity of people that register to vote?

00:07:47.000 I mean, call me old school, but even when I registered to vote in the corrupt state of Illinois, I had to register to vote with a voter ID.

00:07:55.000 Now, I didn't have to vote with the voter ID, but when I had to register, I had to at least prove that I was living where I was registering to vote.

00:08:02.000 How is it possible in a Republican state, Georgia?

00:08:04.000 I'm just asking is just to be curious that you could register as basically in the side of a barn door.

00:08:10.000 That's a great question.

00:08:10.000 Right.

00:08:12.000 And our plan is, as we ramp this project up, is as we've kind of finished our investigation, is we're going to be putting together a FedEx pack for each of the six states that we've investigated and addressing one to the Attorney General of each state and the Board of Elections or Secretary of State, who's ever most in charge.

00:08:28.000 We're going to drop the documents and a USB jump drive with all the names, all the data on it, and tell them they've got to investigate this.

00:08:36.000 And we're going to be counting on people like you and people on Twitter, et cetera, to get people to call those secretary states, call those attorney generals, to turn up the heat and say, okay, here's evidence.

00:08:47.000 Go do your job.

00:08:50.000 And what you're saying is that you have enough evidence to show that this is now clouded.

00:08:59.000 It's tampered.

00:09:00.000 It's tainted.

00:09:01.000 It is unknown, right?

00:09:02.000 And that's a very important distinction, right?

00:09:05.000 Because if the Federalist papers talk about this, the House of Representatives should then remedy anything that cannot be conclusively determined who is the winner.

00:09:14.000 That's correct.

00:09:15.000 And, you know, what's interesting is this used to be a big issue on the left.

00:09:19.000 They used to make a lot of noise about the problems of potential mail-in ballots because historically it was Republicans who voted overwhelmingly with mail-in ballots.

00:09:25.000 It's not no longer the case.

00:09:26.000 Right, right.

00:09:27.000 So here's, and I just want to quote you in New York.

00:09:30.000 This is the New York Times, said, voting by mail is now common enough and problematic enough that election experts say there have been multiple elections in which no one can say with confidence which candidate was the deserved winner.

00:09:42.000 And now we're in that situation with the presidency and suddenly this stuff, I don't know, they don't know what no one wants to talk to me anymore.

00:09:51.000 Well, we do.

00:09:52.000 And so can you give us some idea as you're in the green room right now about to testify in front of the nation?

00:09:57.000 By the way, we're streaming that live on all of our platforms.

00:10:00.000 We have about 20,000 people watching just on our platforms.

00:10:04.000 No pressure.

00:10:05.000 But also, it's millions of people watching this.

00:10:08.000 What are you going to say at this hearing?

00:10:10.000 Can you give us some insight?

00:10:12.000 Yeah, I'm going to review the findings of our analyses in Arizona and if they have questions about other states.

00:10:18.000 And I'm actually going to have a little audio visual element.

00:10:21.000 I've got recordings of people our call center call telling our people that they did not cast the ballot or that they did not request an absentee ballot, which is another huge problem is that we sort of took a shot in the dark and thought, you know, there are a lot of unreturned absentee ballots.

00:10:35.000 I wonder if these people actually request them.

00:10:37.000 And we found in Arizona, almost half the people that we reached who got an absentee ballot but didn't return it told us that they never requested it in the first place.

00:10:45.000 So who requested these absentee ballots in their names?

00:10:48.000 So how big was that sample size?

00:10:50.000 Was it 100 people, 200?

00:10:50.000 I'm just curious.

00:10:53.000 I'm sure it was significant.

00:10:55.000 Well, our universe of people we were able to reach was about 2,000 and about 1,000 of them told us.

00:11:02.000 So now other people have taken our data and done projections on like what the entire universe is.

00:11:08.000 There's about a half million unreturned absentee ballots.

00:11:11.000 Now, I want to be specific.

00:11:12.000 Something funny about Arizona, unlike all the other states.

00:11:14.000 In Arizona, we're actually only dealing with data for Maricopa County.

00:11:18.000 It's not been available for anybody else.

00:11:19.000 So we're only looking at early absentee voters in Maricopa County alone.

00:11:24.000 And even among them, we've shown that these tremendous numbers.

00:11:28.000 And Maricopa is obviously the biggest county, the one that had the most stunning kind of turn of events.

00:11:33.000 It's traditionally a Republican county.

00:11:35.000 But I guarantee you, if you looked into Pima County, which is a traditional Democrat stronghold, you'd find the same sort of irregularities in the state of Arizona.

00:11:44.000 So what you're telling me is that you did a 2,000-person universe and 1,000 out of the 2,000 were shown to be not, they said, I did not request a ballot or I did not vote by mail.

00:11:57.000 Is that correct?

00:11:58.000 I'm pulling the numbers up here.

00:11:59.000 So we reached 2,044 people.

00:12:03.000 902 said we did not request.

00:12:05.000 So that's just about 45% or so.

00:12:08.000 All those 902 got ballots.

00:12:11.000 Yes.

00:12:12.000 And among this universe, the total universe here was about over half a million.

00:12:17.000 We were only able to match phones to about half of them.

00:12:19.000 And you know how phone centers work is that you got to give them like 50,000 numbers to reach about 1,000 people.

00:12:24.000 So that's kind of what we found here.

00:12:27.000 But that's not 50.

00:12:30.000 It's not 100.

00:12:31.000 That's a very serious sample size.

00:12:33.000 And I want to compliment you because for our listeners right now that are just kind of, I could just envision a lot of our listeners.

00:12:40.000 They're like, well, why do you have to do this?

00:12:43.000 It's because you're a citizen patriot who is rising up and doing this type of work.

00:12:48.000 And quite honestly, this is what the Bureau should be doing, right?

00:12:51.000 This is what the DOJ should be doing.

00:12:54.000 And so that's just Arizona.

00:12:56.000 Did you find that kind of irregularity of ballots not being sent in Georgia and Pennsylvania as well?

00:13:02.000 We found it a phenomenon in all six of the states that we investigated in all of them.

00:13:09.000 You know, as many as usually as low as 18% of the people who received absentee ballots who didn't request them, I mean, sorry, who didn't return them.

00:13:17.000 So that's already kind of an artificial number because we were only talking to people who the state said they sent a ballot, but didn't get one back from them.

00:13:24.000 And then even among those who did request the ballot, many of them said they sent them back, which is a phenomenon on its own.

00:13:30.000 People sending their ballots back saying we never got them.

00:13:33.000 And that's also significant in all these states, statistically significant.

00:13:38.000 So actually, you know, in Michigan, for example, we actually decided to do a supplemental program just reaching out to everybody who got an absentee ballot, whether they returned it or not, everybody in Michigan.

00:13:49.000 And we found that 13% of them never requested it or told us they'd never requested it.

00:13:54.000 So the numbers can be much higher because talking to a stranger on a phone, some people are a little bit cautious about that.

00:14:02.000 That is absolutely incredible.

00:14:04.000 So I know you have to testify shortly.

00:14:07.000 What do you think then is the proper path forward based on your evidentiary findings for state legislatures?

00:14:14.000 How should they act based on your findings?

00:14:16.000 You know, that's my lane is developing this data and presenting it and making it understandable, accessible.

00:14:24.000 It's really up to the lawyers, the judges, and the legislatures to decide what the curative action is here.

00:14:29.000 But somebody told me, you know, what if I gave you a million bucks and a bunch of FBI agents?

00:14:35.000 Could you actually figure out who really won this election?

00:14:36.000 The truth is I can't.

00:14:38.000 So the only theoretical solution, I'm not proposing this, but in my mind, you'd have to basically spend about three months cleaning the state's voter lists and then have a new election.

00:14:49.000 And we both know that's fantasy.

00:14:53.000 Yeah, but it's not fantasy to all of a sudden say we are going to push this to the House of Representatives if the election is tainted, which based on all of your findings, it very much shows that it is.

00:15:06.000 So how can people find your data?

00:15:08.000 Are you going to make this publicly available?

00:15:12.000 I'm putting together a white paper that's going to have as much of this available as possible.

00:15:17.000 One of the challenges I have as I've gone through this, I've realized is that originally what my plan was to just put all the data out there, right?

00:15:24.000 Of all the names of all the people we found, et cetera.

00:15:27.000 The problem is that if I do that, my means of distributing it, primarily Twitter and some other social networks, would actually delete my account because that in their book is doc sync, even though it's all public information.

00:15:38.000 You're well familiar with this.

00:15:39.000 So what I've done doing instead is I'm providing the raw data to law enforcement agencies, to attorneys who are going into court where it makes sense, and then providing a very information-rich white paper.

00:15:50.000 I also have journalists coming over to my headquarters sitting next to me where I can visually show it to them so they can kind of verify that I'm not making all this stuff up.

00:15:59.000 I'd be happy to do that with you if we have time this evening.

00:16:01.000 I would love to.

00:16:02.000 Yeah, just text, I mean, just text me because we're both kind of in the same place here and we've been kind of manning the battleship here.

00:16:08.000 I'd love to go through this and be able to kind of take eyes on it.

00:16:13.000 So I just want to compliment you.

00:16:14.000 I know you have to go testify here, Matt, and I wanted to do this kind of quick interview.

00:16:17.000 We'll post it immediately because it takes a lot of guts and it takes a lot of perseverance to go through it because I'm sure you receive your fair share of backlash and people trying to demean your efforts.

00:16:30.000 So how can people get behind you and support what you're doing?

00:16:33.000 Well, first I have to thank my team.

00:16:35.000 I couldn't have done this without them.

00:16:36.000 We've got a lot of very experienced people.

00:16:37.000 And also, we had nearly 9,000 donors step forward to fund this thing with $5, $10,000, $15 contributions.

00:16:44.000 So I want to thank everyone.

00:16:45.000 We've got more down.

00:16:46.000 We've got stuff coming, big things coming in the next couple of weeks and in the beginning of the new year.

00:16:51.000 So just follow me on Twitter.

00:16:53.000 That's probably the best place or Gab or Parlor on all the platforms.

00:16:56.000 So just find me there, follow me, and I'll keep you and all of your viewers in the loop.

00:17:02.000 Keep up the great work, Matt.

00:17:03.000 Thank you for joining us and good luck testifying.

00:17:06.000 Thank you.

00:17:07.000 Talk to you soon.

00:17:08.000 Thanks.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 30, 2020

The Great Mail-In Ballot Heist with Matt Braynard

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