The Charlie Kirk Show - August 29, 2022


The Greatest Threat to Tyranny is the Activated Church—LIVE from TPUSA Faith Pastors Summit


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Today's episode is from a keynote I did in San Diego at the Pastor Summit hosted by Turning Point USA. This is a powerful and inspiring message from a man who is fighting for liberty and freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, super important episode.
00:00:03.000 Stop what you're doing and listen to every word of this.
00:00:05.000 You are going to love it.
00:00:06.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:08.000 Here we.
00:00:09.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:10.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:12.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:16.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:19.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:20.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:21.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:00:23.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:30.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:38.000 That's why we are here.
00:00:42.000 Welcome to San Diego, everybody.
00:00:43.000 It is such a blessing to have all of you.
00:00:46.000 And just the Turning Point USA team has worked so hard this summer.
00:00:50.000 For those of you that kind of follow us and have been seeing, we did our Young Women's Leadership Summit in early June for 2,500 young women.
00:01:00.000 Just a couple weeks ago, we had our Student Action Summit, 5,000 students in Tampa, Florida.
00:01:05.000 Last week, we nearly doubled the size of our staff.
00:01:09.000 And just to add all of that, we have this amazing pastor summit here.
00:01:12.000 And so the TPUSA staff, if you see them, thank them.
00:01:16.000 They are doing such a remarkable job for liberty and for freedom and for our country.
00:01:21.000 So I want to just start by kind of framing these next couple days.
00:01:26.000 What is TPUSA faith?
00:01:28.000 What is that exactly?
00:01:30.000 Well, a year ago, we launched this project and this program with a heart and a desire to try and help you, America's pastors, to speak boldly with conviction and clarity as our liberties and freedoms seem to erode seemingly by the hour now.
00:01:48.000 If the American church does not rise up with boldness, Western civilization will be something that we tell our grandkids about.
00:01:56.000 Now, a couple years ago, I met my now pastor Rob McCoy, who you'll hear from in just a second.
00:02:01.000 And Pastor Rob's amazing.
00:02:04.000 And I was always kind of uncertain about talking about these sorts of issues, you could say.
00:02:09.000 And then I met Pastor Rob at an event at Liberty University.
00:02:13.000 And Rob challenged me.
00:02:14.000 He said, Charlie, if you're a Christian and you're fighting for liberty every single day, that's the same cause.
00:02:20.000 He said, it's God's heart for his people to set the captives free.
00:02:25.000 And so Rob invited me to speak at his church.
00:02:28.000 I'd never spoke at a church before, by the way.
00:02:30.000 I was originally raised Presbyterian, where, you know, let's just say the congregation would never go and give a speech.
00:02:36.000 You just kind of attend and leave.
00:02:38.000 And then I went to Harvest Bible Chapel.
00:02:40.000 I think Landon is here somewhere in suburbs of Chicago.
00:02:42.000 It had an amazing impact on my life and really led me closer to the Lord.
00:02:47.000 But I was always uncertain about speaking at a church.
00:02:50.000 And be honest, I don't get very nervous speaking, but I was super nervous before speaking at Rob's church.
00:02:57.000 And it was amazing.
00:02:58.000 I realized that the church community at Godspeak was hungry for this message, that they wanted to be told that it's okay to care about current events, that they should do something about their local school boards, and that Christians have a moral and biblical commandment to actually contest in the public square.
00:03:17.000 And so one church led to another.
00:03:19.000 I spoke at Jack Hibbs Church.
00:03:21.000 And then, of course, COVID happened.
00:03:23.000 And I've never been more wrong in my life about something.
00:03:27.000 I made a public prediction that the American churches were going to resist lockdowns and be the leaders against all this nonsense.
00:03:34.000 I said, oh, no way.
00:03:35.000 I mean, the American church won't put up with this.
00:03:38.000 Now, many of you did, and you deserve to be thanked and encouraged for that.
00:03:41.000 That's why you're here, by the way.
00:03:45.000 So thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:03:47.000 I see so many of you here.
00:03:48.000 Pastor Todd and Pastor Joe, I see so many of you here.
00:03:51.000 But let's be honest, you're in the minority.
00:03:53.000 So when I started to speak at many of your churches here, Steve Smotherman's church for one in 2020, many of you started to tell me something similar.
00:04:03.000 I'm the only one.
00:04:05.000 I don't know one other pastor, maybe one or two, that are fighting against this.
00:04:09.000 I said, really?
00:04:10.000 I was just in Albuquerque with a guy that's talking just like you.
00:04:14.000 I was just in Bangor, Maine, or I was at Pastor Gary's church.
00:04:17.000 And it seems as if you guys need to get to know each other because you might feel like you're the only one, but that is a tactic from the enemy to try to make you feel as if you're in isolation and confusion.
00:04:30.000 And so we got to thinking, we prayed about it, and we never had any sort of plan to do this before.
00:04:36.000 We said, what if we start a program where we use some of the expertise that we had on college and high school campus organizing and just try to do something meaningful in America's churches?
00:04:47.000 Now, when you try to do anything in the faith space, the immediate question you get is, Charlie, what is your stance?
00:04:53.000 Are you pre-trib or post-trib?
00:04:55.000 I was like, okay, really?
00:04:56.000 That took you about 30 seconds.
00:04:58.000 In fact, there's a pastor who's not here who refused to attend because he said we were not clear enough on our theology before this.
00:05:06.000 And look, we believe in the Nicene Creed.
00:05:08.000 We believe Jesus is king.
00:05:10.000 We believe in the inerrancy of scripture.
00:05:13.000 And I'll allow you guys to settle all the other theological differences.
00:05:19.000 It's not my field.
00:05:20.000 We're here for liberty, everybody.
00:05:21.000 We're here to set the captives free, okay?
00:05:25.000 And I love those theological disputes.
00:05:27.000 I think it's fun.
00:05:28.000 It's spirited.
00:05:29.000 It's important.
00:05:30.000 However, if we just focus on that, we're going to be having those debates from prison.
00:05:35.000 And we're just going to be disagreeing on, you know, pre-trib, post-trib, you know, see you in the yard tomorrow.
00:05:40.000 Okay, great.
00:05:44.000 And so when we started TPSA Faith, we were very focused on the Nicene Creed, inerrancy of scripture, and allowing you, the pastor, to find whatever theological perspective you want to bring to your congregation.
00:05:56.000 But here's what we can agree on.
00:05:58.000 We can agree on that the most important thing is to win souls for Jesus Christ.
00:06:03.000 And the second most important thing is to make sure we can still do the first thing.
00:06:10.000 And that second thing is what I do every day.
00:06:12.000 We do it on high school campuses, radio, podcasting, and that's our mission here at TPUSA Faith.
00:06:17.000 So this is going to be a little bit different for some of you.
00:06:19.000 In fact, I had someone come up to me and they said, Charlie, I'm very suspicious.
00:06:22.000 I said, why is that?
00:06:23.000 They said, you guys are treating me way too well.
00:06:25.000 Like, where's the ask?
00:06:26.000 Like, and look, this is what we do here at TPSA.
00:06:30.000 There's no membership dues.
00:06:32.000 We're not going to ask you to join some association.
00:06:35.000 We're not going to ask you to kind of come in and put your name on something.
00:06:39.000 We're here to actually do something that is not done a lot in church world.
00:06:42.000 We're just here to offer you stuff.
00:06:43.000 If you like it, please take it.
00:06:44.000 And we want to build a relationship.
00:06:46.000 We want you to be convicted.
00:06:47.000 We want you to be empowered.
00:06:48.000 We want you to be encouraged.
00:06:50.000 We want you to be filled up with information these next couple days and go back to your church and feel compelled to do something.
00:06:58.000 So just understand the power of what's in this room right now.
00:07:01.000 Over 400 pastors and wives attended for this conference.
00:07:04.000 We did the math.
00:07:05.000 Over 215,000 weekly attendees, if you count all of your churches together.
00:07:11.000 Over 5 million digital and social media followers and weekly listeners on podcasts altogether.
00:07:17.000 This room can change the country.
00:07:18.000 It's that simple.
00:07:22.000 This room can change the country.
00:07:25.000 And by the way, it's not even a matter of numbers.
00:07:27.000 If you're a pastor right now and you have 50 in your flock, God bless you.
00:07:30.000 I'm so glad you're here.
00:07:31.000 Or if you're a pastor Steve and you got, I don't know, 50,000 in that auditorium in Albuquerque, God bless you.
00:07:36.000 Or Pastor Gary, doesn't matter.
00:07:38.000 We're all one together.
00:07:39.000 Now, the reason why so many of you, I know, traveled across the country to be here is you feel a sense of urgency and a massive lacking in this moment of time that the church is not currently doing enough.
00:07:52.000 What I also noticed on my travels during kind of the thought process and reflection of before we launched TPSA Faith is people would say, I'm the only one, and also privately be like, Charlie, what exactly do I do?
00:08:07.000 I agree with you, but how do I give a sermon properly on the Constitution?
00:08:12.000 Is America a Christian country? 0.96
00:08:15.000 How do I go and do an election day sermon?
00:08:17.000 What are the legal parameters for me as a pastor?
00:08:21.000 Because I'm told by all of my pastor friends that we must be Romans 13 and never question the government at all.
00:08:29.000 Every one of those questions will be answered for you in these next couple of days.
00:08:32.000 I cannot think of a better group of experts that you're going to hear from Bill Federer, from Dave Barton, from Larry Arn, from pastors, from legal experts.
00:08:44.000 There'll be QA time.
00:08:45.000 There'll be fellowship time.
00:08:47.000 Because some of you right now are saying, well, Charlie, what's the boundaries I can push?
00:08:50.000 So you're going to hear it all.
00:08:51.000 You're going to have the Jack Hibbs model, who's just total cowboy, where he mails his sermons to the IRS, asking them to audit him.
00:09:00.000 That will be on the buffet line for you to choose.
00:09:05.000 Or you'll get the Liberty Council update of, we're here to represent you.
00:09:10.000 And if you want to challenge the IRS, or here's some safe harborways.
00:09:14.000 So you're going to have all of that presented in front of you.
00:09:17.000 But, you know, one of the verses we want to focus on these next couple of days is Jeremiah 29, 7, which is, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:09:29.000 That is the Lord speaking in Jeremiah 29, 7.
00:09:32.000 I am not saying that the welfare of the nation is the most important thing.
00:09:37.000 No one will make that contention these next couple days.
00:09:39.000 Eternity is the most important thing.
00:09:42.000 But if we act as if this does not matter, as if this is a component that is not a prerequisite or an ingredient, then the tyranny that I think a lot of us have been warning about that we're all of a sudden shockingly see on the news, especially in the last couple days, I'm not going to be able, I'm not going to live with myself if I inherit a free country and pass down an unfree country, especially us as Christians. 0.51
00:10:08.000 And here's the thing that I think that so much we have to get better at articulating and challenging our friends lovingly and gracefully is we are the inheritors of a nation that was founded by courageous Christians.
00:10:22.000 Let's be courageous Christians as well.
00:10:28.000 And so the next couple days, I want to challenge you to meet people you haven't met before, to ask questions that might push your own boundaries, and ask yourself, what can I bring back to my church to advance the cause of liberty?
00:10:45.000 What can I bring back to my church to maybe open up my church to allow pod schooling or homeschooling to allow at our church?
00:10:52.000 What can I do at my church to educate my congregation on their civic right to vote?
00:10:57.000 Calls to action in every single way possible.
00:10:59.000 Because here's what I can guarantee, and this is the one thing about pastors' conferences that I know that, you know, some of you, just from some of the feedback, is pastor conferences are interesting.
00:11:09.000 I'm going to steal one of Rob McCoy's lines.
00:11:11.000 It's like having a porcupine.
00:11:12.000 Great point.
00:11:13.000 Keep them away from me, right?
00:11:14.000 And you have a lot of people where all of you are leading every single day.
00:11:19.000 I totally get that.
00:11:20.000 The one thing I want to challenge you, though, is that every speaker might be able to give you one or two or three things that could change your church, change your community.
00:11:29.000 And it's also going to say, you know, you might not like that person's theology.
00:11:33.000 You might not like what they have to say at one point, but they're on the stage here to hopefully bless you and give you the expertise and give you the information to allow you to become the best pastor possible.
00:11:44.000 Let me just kind of close with this before I invite Rob up.
00:11:49.000 Look, the country's in trouble.
00:11:50.000 We know that.
00:11:50.000 It's falling apart.
00:11:51.000 Nothing in these next couple days is political.
00:11:53.000 People say, Charlie, why should Christians be political?
00:11:55.000 I think Christians should be political.
00:11:57.000 We're actually going to go a step even further than political.
00:12:00.000 I think Christians need to be talking about morals, right and wrong, philosophy. 1.00
00:12:04.000 What type of government do we have?
00:12:05.000 That's really what we're here.
00:12:07.000 That's why we're here.
00:12:08.000 And so in the next couple days, I know that there will be moments where some of you want to then apply this into action.
00:12:19.000 That's the next thing that we offer here at TPUSA Faith.
00:12:22.000 So as I mentioned, we have 32 full-time people all across the country that are there to literally help you make this possible.
00:12:30.000 So for example, if you feel convicted and you want to bring a biblical citizenship class to your church, we're there to help you make it happen.
00:12:37.000 We're already doing it with some of you in the audience here.
00:12:39.000 If you want to then do a Freedom Night in America like we do at Steve Smotherman's Church or Pastor Troy's Church in North Carolina or Pastor Luke Barnett's church where we do a weeknight gathering focused on current events around a biblical lens, we're there to help you do it.
00:12:52.000 If you see a speaker here on stage and you're like, boy, I'd love to have that speaker come to your church, we're more than happy to help make that happen.
00:13:00.000 So it's all in front of you and we want to make it possible where all of a sudden next year we don't just have 400 pastors and wives.
00:13:07.000 Why not 4,000 pastors and wives from across the country? 0.97
00:13:12.000 And so let me tell you about how this conference came to be.
00:13:18.000 The person who helped underwrite this conference, we have amazing donors at Turning Point USA.
00:13:23.000 It was one donor and one meeting.
00:13:25.000 And I would say she's a Christian, but she doesn't necessarily attend church regularly.
00:13:30.000 And she sat down, we sat down and said, Charlie, what's the most impactful thing that is not yet currently funded that you need help with?
00:13:37.000 I said, boy, if we could get hundreds of pastors together in August before a consequential fall, I think it could help change the course of the country.
00:13:46.000 And she said, sure, I'll fund the whole thing.
00:13:48.000 And I wanted to just go a step further.
00:13:50.000 I said, well, really, you don't really seem that interested in church and all that.
00:13:54.000 She said, listen, she was raised Catholic, tough experience, long story.
00:13:58.000 The point, though, is that she said, I've done the math.
00:14:01.000 If the church doesn't actually start to grow a spine, the country's done.
00:14:08.000 And I want you to think about that.
00:14:12.000 That coalition of liberty that is there to try to bless you for the next couple of days to make it easier for you to be able to have hopefully some rest and some comfort and enjoy the scenery and the beauty.
00:14:22.000 But also, from our picture as a country right now, the forces to be, they want pastors to do nothing right now.
00:14:31.000 They want pastors not to speak out.
00:14:33.000 They want pastors to be okay with this.
00:14:35.000 The greatest threat to tyranny in America is a church that does not put up with it.
00:14:45.000 And so you're at a history-making moment.
00:14:48.000 Millions of people will be impacted by this, the ripple effect, the network effect.
00:14:53.000 And isn't that awesome?
00:14:54.000 Praise God that this is able to come together the way it did.
00:14:56.000 And so challenge yourself, challenge your friends, and just love on our speakers as they present to you what I think is just an amazingly robust program.
00:15:06.000 We are here to help and serve you.
00:15:08.000 I know many of you met some of our TPUSA faith staffers.
00:15:12.000 Anything you need in the next couple days, from dinner reservations to just an errand run, we are here to bless you in any way possible.
00:15:18.000 Because honestly, pastors that are taking stands on these issues, which you are, you guys get a lot thrown at you.
00:15:25.000 Local media, backlash.
00:15:27.000 It's about time someone honors all of you for the stands that you've been taking.
00:15:31.000 And that's part of what we're trying to do here these next couple days.
00:15:34.000 And so I can't think of anybody better to help open this conference.
00:15:38.000 And the man who helped inspire TPUSA Faith, the co-chair of TPUSA Faith, join me in welcoming Pastor Rob McCoy.
00:15:47.000 So Rob, I just wanted to kind of open up with a conversation here.
00:15:50.000 What an amazing group, right?
00:15:52.000 Yeah, it's really cool.
00:15:53.000 Seriously, I've been meeting so many of them, and they travel from all over and new faces.
00:15:58.000 And there's some folks here that are not really sure.
00:16:01.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:16:02.000 So, and that's what welcome, by the way.
00:16:03.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people here, and we're so glad you're here that have messaged me and messaged Rob.
00:16:08.000 They said, I follow you guys.
00:16:10.000 I don't agree with everything you say, but hundreds of pastors in the room in a couple days in Coronado, California.
00:16:15.000 I think that was probably the draw, but that's okay.
00:16:17.000 Um, by the way, mission accomplished, they're here.
00:16:19.000 Boom.
00:16:20.000 Um, and that's okay because, Rob, how many stories have we seen of pastors that were, boy, I'm uncertain about speaking about this, but now two years later, they're vocal, they're empowered, they're leaning in on these issues.
00:16:33.000 Yeah, and talk a little bit about that.
00:16:35.000 I was thinking that the first person came to mind was John Randall.
00:16:38.000 He's in here the last couple days, and it was his kids that said, You got to listen to Charlie Kirk.
00:16:41.000 And he's he was the ATPs like me, and you're just looking at it going, Well, I'm not really sure.
00:16:45.000 You know, I just preach the gospel, I don't do politics.
00:16:48.000 And then all of a sudden, John starts to realize that even if you believe in a separation of church and state, you're watching the state come into the church.
00:16:55.000 And wherever you are on that, we're seeing you know this.
00:16:58.000 It's never been done like this in the history of our country.
00:17:01.000 So, watching John take a stand and seeing San Clemente blessed by that movement.
00:17:07.000 And I think, like I've told you, pastors are peace-loving, but the misconception is that peace is the absence of conflict.
00:17:14.000 And it's not, it's the presence of Christ in the midst of the conflict.
00:17:17.000 And we think, well, you know, we're submit to authority like you had alluded to with Romans 13, but that doesn't mean unlimited submission to tyranny.
00:17:25.000 And we have to learn that.
00:17:27.000 And I was assembling the airplane while I was flying.
00:17:29.000 You and I were dealing with this because I felt like I was going through my life with two left shoes and you were wearing two right shoes.
00:17:35.000 And then we met each other and we, hey, wow, this is-you can help me.
00:17:38.000 Yeah.
00:17:39.000 Because I remember when I first met you at that conference at Don Dix, who's gone to be with the Lord, he had put on at the conservative radio thing in Ontario.
00:17:46.000 And you said, I didn't know a guy like you existed.
00:17:48.000 I said, What's that?
00:17:49.000 A pastor and a politician.
00:17:50.000 I said, I didn't know a guy like you existed.
00:17:52.000 26-year-old, you know, conservative going on campuses.
00:17:55.000 Like, you have a death wish or something.
00:17:58.000 And it just from there, we started to realize there's a part missing.
00:18:02.000 And the church desperately needed what you were sharing.
00:18:06.000 And I, being in politics, I had to understand the issues better.
00:18:10.000 And I'm grateful for what God's done with you.
00:18:12.000 Yeah, on the Romans 13 deal, I got this from Bill Federer, who you'll hear a couple tomorrow, I think, which is, you know, a lot of pastors will say, hey, we have to submit to Romans 13.
00:18:22.000 Well, the founding fathers gave us an amazing gift, which is, you know, it says in Romans 13, submit to all rulers and those in authority.
00:18:28.000 Well, we, the people, are the rulers and the authority in the Constitutional Republic.
00:18:33.000 And so technically, the mayors, the governors, the congresspeople, and the presidents, they should submit to us.
00:18:40.000 And, you know, in the time in Rome, okay, you know, whoever's the emperor of Rome, Nero after that.
00:18:46.000 But in this country, the people are the sovereign.
00:18:48.000 That little civic education, I know, inspired some pastors in this room to feel even more empowered to take a stand against the tyranny.
00:18:56.000 And you're right, Rob, you know, for a long time they said, you know, separation of church and state, which is not in the Constitution.
00:19:02.000 And, you know, one, a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention, which actually was trying to tell the Baptists the state wouldn't come after them.
00:19:11.000 However, even if that was true, you're so right, Rob.
00:19:14.000 That means the church never should have been shut down.
00:19:16.000 That means the church never should have been subject to vaccine mandates.
00:19:19.000 That means the church never should have been subject to mask mandates.
00:19:22.000 If separation of church was actually ever true, what they're really trying to say is, hey, you Christians, please don't get involved because you outnumber us.
00:19:29.000 That's right.
00:19:31.000 I learned this from not only Bill Federer, but also David Barton and Rick Green, Jonathan Mayhew, who died in 1766.
00:19:39.000 But John Adams attributed this exegetical work of Romans 13.
00:19:42.000 He attributed the War of Independence to Mayhew because he looked at Romans 13 and he said that God appoints all positions of authority were to submit to him.
00:19:50.000 But he said, but they're there for our good.
00:19:52.000 And when they cease to do good, they cease to be the authority.
00:19:55.000 And he coined the term disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.
00:19:58.000 And that's what John Adams said started the War of Independence.
00:20:01.000 And they needed the politicians, politicians are actors performing a script written by the audience.
00:20:07.000 And God gave the sovereign in this country, we the people, a president needs a cabinet, a king needs counselors.
00:20:14.000 Our founders in their wisdom gave the people a counselor in the First Amendment.
00:20:18.000 The press, the pulpit, the freedom of speech, and the freedom to peacefully assemble for right of redress of grievances.
00:20:24.000 The press is to report the truth.
00:20:26.000 The pulpits are to proclaim it, and the people are to live it.
00:20:29.000 And if the press is bought and the pulpits are silent, the people are rudderless and the king has no counselors.
00:20:34.000 And only a moral people can govern a republic, a constitutional republic.
00:20:39.000 It's a bottom-up form of government where the First Amendment, and I'll stop with this.
00:20:46.000 The First Amendment was prohibitive.
00:20:48.000 You know, you see the eloquence in the Declaration of Independence when, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary.
00:20:53.000 And then you see the preamble of the Constitution, we the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union.
00:20:58.000 They establish the three branches of government, and the one branch which is most powerful, that holds the purse strings, is the one we directly elect, which is the Congress.
00:21:06.000 And then they write the First Amendment.
00:21:07.000 The first 16 words is prohibitive.
00:21:09.000 Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof, period.
00:21:16.000 And they were saying, no government comes between God and man ever, period.
00:21:22.000 That was profound.
00:21:24.000 And then that.
00:21:26.000 Now, Rob, some pastors will say, if I speak out on this, I will lose attendance, I will lose tithes and offerings, of which I say, so what?
00:21:37.000 But that's actually not true.
00:21:45.000 No.
00:21:46.000 Because I look around the room right now that the pastors that I know that have taken the boldest stands over the last two years have actually seen their attendance grow.
00:21:55.000 They need bigger buildings and their tithes and offerings have increased.
00:21:59.000 So talk about even if that were true, or if one day that will be true, who cares?
00:22:04.000 Secondly, Rob, your church has been blessed beyond imagination since the government came after you.
00:22:12.000 Yeah.
00:22:14.000 So when we were given the restraining order by the county and the state, I asked our attorney what we would lose, and there was a legal pad full of, you know, you lose your house, you lose your church, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:25.000 You're going to get, you know, your son loses NRTC scholarship, all these things.
00:22:29.000 Long legal pad.
00:22:30.000 I called my wife and she repeated what Victor Marx's wife said. 0.99
00:22:35.000 Basically, I'd rather be a widow than be married to a coward. 0.96
00:22:38.000 And my kids were all in because, amen. 0.96
00:22:45.000 My kids were all in because they know you're fighting for their generation.
00:22:51.000 And, you know, and then the staff was in, but the elders were the toughest ones.
00:22:54.000 And this is where you guys will have struggles.
00:22:56.000 We have 15 elders.
00:22:58.000 And I went before them and I said, look, I'm planning on violating the restraining order tomorrow.
00:23:02.000 But unless the decision is unanimous, I gave you all a letter that has my resignation.
00:23:08.000 Because my wife and I had counted the cost, and nothing's more valuable to us than freedom for the next generation.
00:23:14.000 Because if we don't secure this, it's all gone.
00:23:16.000 If you bind the strong man, 86 cents of every dollar in evangelism comes from the United States, we bind the strong man, it's over.
00:23:23.000 And so we did that, and the landlord was all in too.
00:23:27.000 And so when we stood, we had nothing to fear.
00:23:30.000 And people said, well, you're going to lose everything.
00:23:32.000 Okay, some people left.
00:23:35.000 That's a given.
00:23:36.000 He's too political.
00:23:36.000 I used to say the largest church in the Canaano Valley is a church of the people that used to go to our church.
00:23:43.000 And I have a gift.
00:23:44.000 I have a gift of preaching a church down to a manageable size.
00:23:49.000 But lo and behold, they say, we love the worship.
00:23:52.000 The messages are good, but you're too political.
00:23:54.000 COVID hits.
00:23:55.000 Their whole world, the elderly are dying alone.
00:23:58.000 The abused are quarantined with the abuser.
00:24:00.000 65% of our small business is destroyed.
00:24:01.000 Schools shuttered.
00:24:03.000 And they all come back.
00:24:04.000 We're the only show in town.
00:24:06.000 We baptized more people in a year than the attendance of the church was a year ago.
00:24:16.000 The accusation I got is we preach the gospel as though insinuating I don't.
00:24:21.000 You want to hear some of the stories of the folks who come to Christ, agnostics.
00:24:25.000 There was an atheist who owned a gun store, and he came out on the day that we violated the restraining order when they were going to give a thousand citations.
00:24:31.000 He had a sign that said, it took this SHI, and then you can fill in the last letter.
00:24:36.000 He said, it took this SHI to get this atheist to come to church. 0.87
00:24:44.000 He's been in church ever since.
00:24:46.000 We've watched Jews come to Christ.
00:24:48.000 One woman said, my father, who survived Oshwitz said, don't get on the train.
00:24:52.000 She said, you defended our business.
00:24:54.000 I baptized her.
00:24:55.000 She knows Jesus as her Messiah.
00:24:57.000 These are all significant conversions of people that would never darken the doors of the church.
00:25:03.000 But God has intrinsically placed in our heart a desire for liberty, and we stood on their defense, and they came.
00:25:07.000 We love our neighbor.
00:25:08.000 Amen.
00:25:14.000 So, Rob, in closing here, before we welcome Pastor Juergen, can you just talk a little bit about kind of the buffet line we've developed at TPUSA Faith of different options, different takeaways that they'll hear the next couple of days.
00:25:26.000 Biblical citizenship, Freedom Night in America, the different speakers, the regional pastors' events, the booklets, the materials, and how your church has incorporated some of those things.
00:25:36.000 Yeah, so when Charlie and I were just conceiving or thinking about getting a room full of pastors that, you know, theologically are, I call it the island of misfit toys.
00:25:48.000 We've got five-point Calvinists swinging from the chandelier, charismatics, and kind of in the middle.
00:25:52.000 Calvary's, we believe the gifts are today, but we keep them in the closet.
00:25:57.000 And we're varied on the eschatology.
00:25:59.000 And as Charlie so brilliantly said, if we don't get liberty right, we'll be arguing those differences from prison.
00:26:04.000 And what it's done is it's united us, and we've endeavored to keep the union of spirit and the bond of peace.
00:26:08.000 So when we sat down and said, what can we offer these pastors in the country?
00:26:12.000 We're going to equip you to contend with tyranny and to be able to stand strong because where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
00:26:21.000 Liberty is not man's idea.
00:26:22.000 It's God's idea.
00:26:22.000 So we've got biblical citizenship to understand historically, footnoted with absolute accuracy by the best scholars imaginable, an understanding of a history of this nation so that if you forget your past, Jesus always said, remember, the Lord always said, remember.
00:26:37.000 The longest running family meal in world history is the Passover.
00:26:40.000 Remember, you were once slaves, you're now free.
00:26:42.000 This is critical to remember who you are.
00:26:45.000 And that's what the Lord wants.
00:26:46.000 So we have biblical citizenship.
00:26:48.000 We also do this idea where we have this education that has been obliterated in California and brilliant Turning Point Academy where we can provide any family in America for $1,500 a year an education with certified teachers and pods that are, it's remarkable.
00:27:04.000 Your church can host it.
00:27:05.000 It will be revolutionary to change the landscape of the country.
00:27:10.000 What's taught in the schools in one generation will be the laws in the next.
00:27:15.000 And then a multitude of others where we have the pastors conferences.
00:27:19.000 We're putting together a website where you can download sermons, kind of like you do on Sermon Central.
00:27:24.000 Of course, none of you use that on Saturday night.
00:27:27.000 But you'll be able to, you know, if the bullet fits in your, no, that's bad analogy.
00:27:31.000 If you want it, it's yours.
00:27:33.000 And, you know, good preachers borrow, great preachers steal, steal it.
00:27:36.000 It's yours.
00:27:37.000 And you can preach it and say, I came up with this.
00:27:40.000 That's between you and the Lord.
00:27:41.000 You know, live with it.
00:27:44.000 But everything imaginable, I come to Charlie and I say, Charlie, it'd be really great if, and then boom, it's done.
00:27:50.000 When I, last part, it's when I was looking at contending with this restraining order.
00:27:56.000 After I made all those phone calls, I called this man.
00:27:59.000 I said, Charlie, it's going to really hit the fan in a minute.
00:28:02.000 He goes, Rob, I got your back.
00:28:03.000 I didn't know what that meant.
00:28:04.000 I need to write checks to my attorney, which, you know, it's cost us quite a bit.
00:28:08.000 I just knew that what he meant, what he said he meant.
00:28:11.000 And when we contended, he stood behind us 100 million views a week with every platform he's on.
00:28:18.000 And Turning Point memed the opponents until they cried, and then he memed them crying.
00:28:30.000 The church may not understand Turning Point or Charlie Kirk.
00:28:34.000 And you may not love him or appreciate him, but he loves and appreciates you.
00:28:39.000 And he's here, and so is Turning Point to defend you.
00:28:42.000 You'll come to appreciate that in time.
00:28:45.000 It's kind of like you hear the stewardess on the airline talking about, you know, the seatbelt and the, you know, the vest and the life.
00:28:50.000 You don't give a rip until the plane's going down, and you'll be going, where is that thing?
00:28:56.000 It's right here.
00:28:57.000 Turning point, Charlie Kirk.
00:28:58.000 God bless you, brother.
00:29:02.000 Thank you, Rob.
00:29:03.000 Thank you.
00:29:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:29:08.000 Email me your thoughts as always.
00:29:09.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:29:11.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:29:12.000 God bless.
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