In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk sits down with some of the program's top supporters to discuss their support of Turning Point USA and what it means to them to be a part of this movement.
00:00:01.000This is a conversation we had at a private dinner with some of our top supporters of this program.
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00:03:15.000In other words, if you add in things like translators and cable television that carries the audio from a radio station and things like that, almost 600 affiliates.
00:03:25.000On Apple Podcast, the Charlie Kirk Podcast is the number one podcast in the category of conservative news.
00:06:01.000If I'm doing a 90-minute podcast, and I'm doing it about roughly the same time every day, why can't I just do a radio show and kind of make it a podcast?
00:06:26.000And Phil and Dave deserve such enormous credit and the whole Salem team because they literally made beachfront property where there was none.
00:06:35.000And that's a whole story that could be told for another time, right, Dave?
00:06:51.000I was proven as other things, but not as that.
00:06:53.000And honestly, that added to the enormity and the weight because I wanted to make sure that I proved to Salem and everyone else that this was a good bet.
00:07:04.000Long story short, the show has just grown dramatically and tremendously, both on the podcast and then on Terrestrial, and now we're flourishing.
00:07:14.000And so Salem took that original bet on us.
00:07:17.000And the thing I love most about Salem is that it's first and foremost missional.
00:07:21.000I mean, there's all these other companies out there that are suspicious at the least on values.
00:07:27.000With Salem, I have never, this is a big deal, through all of COVID, through all the lockdowns, through all the Floyd stuff, Through everything.
00:07:35.000I've never, and January 6th, I've never ever received a phone call, Charlie, don't talk about this topic.
00:08:08.000Andrew has to book the show, produce the show.
00:08:11.000It used to be just Andrew and I. And then he's also the guest host when I have to go on college campuses.
00:08:15.000So you've got to deal with him on that as well.
00:08:18.000It's really been this incredible kind of ragtag startup vibe that now is honestly not as much of a startup as you can see evidenced here by everyone.
00:08:27.000And Salem and Mike does a wonderful job running stuff, and Mike's been a great friend.
00:08:31.000He said, hey, why don't we do kind of a dinner where you guys get to spend time with me and vice versa.
00:08:36.000And by the way, this has been so helpful because I read all of your ad copy, and now I can put a face to the name and a story to the name.
00:08:44.000So it makes my job a lot easier, and I think you guys will also love hearing the backside of it because now it's not just, you know, a piece of paper that's printed.
00:08:52.000And then I also have to brag on our team here.
00:08:55.000We have the best, first of all, the best social media team in the country.
00:09:12.000And those, I mean, literally, it's two or three people that understand the Internet, understand, and that helps the show grow, which obviously helps everybody here.
00:09:20.000So the last year, the Lord has blessed this country and blessed our journey, where obviously we won the election, and we've just seen a tremendous growth.
00:09:31.000In a year where we would not imagine it.
00:09:33.000And I would be remiss also to mention some of the other people here in this room to help make it possible.
00:09:37.000Obviously, Mikey, who's my chief of staff, and then Blake, who also is a chief of staff So you know you have the Hillsdale online courses.
00:10:06.000And then my thanks also comes to all of you guys.
00:10:08.000Obviously, our first obligation is to make sure you guys can make money.
00:10:12.000I want you all to have multi-billion dollar businesses because then it makes us more successful.
00:10:17.000But it's not lost on me, and I hope it's not lost on you, that if you add an inventory with some no-name radio station or no-name TV station, you guys might get some ROI.
00:10:29.000But this actually sows back into the betterment of the country.
00:10:33.000This helps turn young people to love liberty and love America and believe in God and ultimate purposes.
00:10:38.000And so I hope you guys know that as well, that it's a very rare opportunity to have a kind of double impact.
00:10:46.000And you as sponsors, I hate the word advertiser, I prefer partners.
00:10:50.000You guys as partners also have stuck through us when the media told you that we're terrible.
00:10:56.000You're like, no, we're going to buy more, right?
00:10:58.000Glenn at Patriot Mobile, or we're going to do more together.
00:11:02.000And so I want to say thank you for that, because that is the other element here, is that you look at on TV, and I'm sure you guys thought this the last couple years, why doesn't that TV host talk about that issue?
00:11:12.000Why doesn't that host talk about that?
00:11:14.000They're held captive by their advertising department.
00:11:17.000But having so many of you guys that continue to support us and continue to partner us, we could take bold stands that people need to hear and they want to hear that allow us to flourish and allow us to grow in a very meaningful way.
00:11:31.000And it allows me every day to never go through the prism, oh boy, I'm not allowed to say XYZ because of either corporate pressure, that doesn't exist, or because of advertising pressure.
00:11:42.000And I think it's one of the secret ingredients why we're able to grow, is that some of these other shows, they constantly have to be like, well, I can't offend this sensibility.
00:11:49.000Or the other one, it's amazing, other shows are like, we're not allowed to talk about our faith too much.
00:11:54.000And at Salem, it's a perfect fit because that's who we are, right?
00:11:57.000Our faith is who we are, and we don't hide from that, and we don't grow away from that.
00:12:01.000So just a quick kind of thoughts on kind of where we're going, and then I want to do some questions, guys.
00:12:05.000And just so you know, we'll have an open discussion however long you want to go.
00:12:09.000This will be, this is, I was telling Colin, like, hey, you know, we believe in layering at the Charlie Kirk show in Turning Point USA.
00:12:47.000This summer, we're going to be doing more long-form interviewing, kind of Joe Rogan style.
00:12:51.000We've also kind of pioneered that we repost some of our campus conversations as podcasts.
00:12:56.000What makes our podcast a little unique and different, there's only a couple I could think of, is that we try to make it raw and authentic where the listener can kind of travel the country alongside of us, where they're getting a little window into, hey, for example, we're going to debate and pray for us for this.
00:13:11.000We're going to debate at Oxford and Cambridge next week.
00:13:13.000We're going to be doing podcasts live from there.
00:14:15.000And honestly, on a more macro level, it is working.
00:14:18.000This is not just us talking to our own converted.
00:14:21.000Young men are the most conservative that they've been in 50 years.
00:14:24.000Young people are the most conservative that we've seen in polling in the last 30 or 40 years.
00:14:29.000President Trump's most loyal constituency is voters from 18 to 22. So what you guys are sowing into actually has macro impact, and it's not just confirmation of your missional values.
00:14:39.000And so all that to say that we're a team, we're a partnership.
00:17:29.000We were so fascinated by touring your campus today, and we were intrigued by the number of people that worked there and the mission that they have.
00:17:42.000What should we be expecting for the midterm elections and the next elections and the next generation that you're basically trying to develop here?
00:18:30.000And then the big picture macro, what is Turning Point USA existing and doing?
00:18:35.000Multiple things, but we are now on the precipice of striking and completing a once impossible goal or seemingly impossible goal.
00:18:42.000We're going to take young people away as the loyal Democrat voters from the Democrat Party away from them, which could change American politics forever.
00:18:50.000That could change the country as we know it, truly.
00:18:54.000And so much more I could comment on that, but yes.
00:19:02.000We love the fact that you're making so many appearances on college campuses.
00:19:07.000And as we've seen in this last year, lots of protests, lots of violence.
00:19:11.000Our children that we send for a better education are a threat.
00:19:16.000And so, Bruna has taken a big step in making colleges safe again.
00:19:22.000And we'd love to work with you in a way to, But if danger presents itself, you have a way to protect yourself without having to deal with lethal force.
00:20:11.000Yeah, no, this is not a substitute for a gun.
00:20:14.000It is an additive as a non-lethal de-escalation tool.
00:20:17.000Because, look, if we're honest, let's just be clear.
00:20:19.000If you're in Chicago or if you're in L.A., and God forbid you have to use your actual gun, it's not the ownership of the gun that they're going to make illegal.
00:20:36.000Thank you, the McCloskey couple, where they simply just...
00:20:48.000And so there's a lot of elements here, and I think you guys at Berna, especially for college kids that want to protect themselves, it's a very, very smart way.
00:21:56.000This is not like Charlie Kirk discovered this.
00:21:58.000This has been the hardest question for theologians.
00:22:00.000Why would a God or a good God allow so much evil, allow so much suffering in a world such as this?
00:22:08.000Now, as our friend Dennis Prager would say, so atheists, I'll actually say it this way.
00:22:16.000We as theists, we have to explain the problem of evil and unjust suffering.
00:22:22.000Atheists have to explain everything else.
00:22:24.000They have to explain creation and love and mercy and compassion and all of that.
00:22:29.000So we admit that this is a mystery, that it is theologically clear that God uses all things for his good.
00:22:38.000It's still a very tough pill to swallow when a kid gets cancer or somebody dies far too young or where there's a hurricane or a tsunami.
00:22:45.000And I would say that outside of even the kid with cancer, the hardest question is the Why would he then deploy such an earthquake against a people?
00:23:00.000Again, I don't find that convincing, but that's definitely the hardest.
00:23:03.000Now, back to actually to flip it on its head, though, and you can use that contention as a way to bring people closer to God, is to say, but by what standard do you say something is evil?
00:23:15.000And how do you know something is evil?
00:23:17.000Because if you believe and know God, there is no evil.
00:23:20.000They're simply preferences, and they're simply how you feel.
00:23:24.000And even an honest atheist will agree with that.
00:23:27.000Atheism is actually falling out of favor in the West, slowly.
00:23:31.000It's actually not as cool to be an atheist.
00:23:33.000The atheists have done a very poor job of articulating their beliefs.
00:23:37.000In the last couple of years, they come across as kind of increasingly snobbish and condescending.
00:23:42.000I actually think he was very good to me on a show besides the fact that I'm not a fan of But I was on with Bill Maher, and that was a very interesting contrast between a Christian worldview and an atheistic worldview.
00:23:56.000He treated me fine, all things being equal.
00:24:11.000Not knowing is actually something much different than making a truth claim that there is no God.
00:24:15.000And even Brett Weinstein, who was recently on Tucker Carlson's podcast about this very topic, he's like, yeah, we in my community are now taking the position of we don't know.
00:24:24.000So they, from 20 years ago, went from a position that there's declaratively no God to kind of we don't know.
00:24:30.000And the reason being is that the more we learn about the quantum world, the more we learn about biology and the universe, it's very difficult to make the argument that all of this was an accident or a mistake.
00:24:42.000I mean, you know all the arguments for God's existence.
00:24:44.000But put very simply, if space, time, and matter had a beginning, which we now know affirmatively that it did, then something spaceless that transcends time that is above matter must have started that thing.
00:24:55.000And that thing can only be described as God.
00:24:57.000The final point that is very hard for us to answer, and again, it's only because we live...
00:25:04.000He's gotten closer and closer to Christianity, where...
00:25:11.000Okay, that's not exactly a new question.
00:25:13.000A six-year-old has that same question.
00:25:15.000But the contention that Joe Rogan said, he's like, well, we're actually looking at this through an earthly lens of things that are created and die, and we don't understand that some things just can be and are and is, and that would be the theist answer, that God has always been.
00:26:03.000I know that you live here and you love Arizona.
00:26:08.000What's happening in Texas right now is the unraveling of the rest of the country indirectly because I don't know how many votes do we have, electoral college votes?
00:26:21.000I thought it was 42. It was a 42. Yeah, anyway, my point is, what's going on in Austin right now is destroying the country because, although Trump won by 15%...
00:26:54.000As we grow, I'm getting better at respectfully saying no.
00:26:58.000And I just came from California, and everybody else was like, can you save California?
00:27:03.000I said, guys, you want me to first save Arizona, because if Arizona gets saved, you get two U.S. senators, and you probably get J.D. Vance as the 48th president of the United States.
00:30:03.000It was, I mean, first of all, you guys have seen, I hate to use these comparisons, but, you know, Michael Jordan, whoever winning an NBA Finals, and they just kind of collapsed.
00:30:26.000It was raw, it was emotional, we didn't sleep for days, and I will tell you a fun story, is that I didn't sleep that entire night.
00:30:32.000We got done broadcasting at like 2 a.m. local time, went home, and we were two hours upon Eastern time, and so I was trying to get some sleep around like 3.45, and I was like, I can't fall asleep, and I had the greatest idea ever.
00:30:45.000I'm like, in 15 minutes, Morning Joe is on.
00:30:48.000And I gotta watch Morning Joe, the morning that Donald Trump got elected president.
00:30:52.000It was one of the most enjoyable, delightful.
00:30:56.000I have it saved, recorded, anytime I'm having a bad day.
00:31:26.000But if, if President Trump were to win, Why is that?
00:31:33.000This is why the grace of God is so amazing.
00:31:35.000Because we had those four years off between Trump 1 and Trump 2, I remember being back in Trump 1 back in 2016 where we were too busy celebrating and all the bad guys came in and ran the personnel operation and we lost it like every single turn.
00:31:57.000We had nothing but, like, bad people at every corner.
00:32:00.000And so I said, if there's anything I could do to use the influence and the trust that I have with President Trump, anything I could do to help improve that, you're never going to be perfect, that's what I want to do.
00:32:10.000So then Eric was like, hey, we'd love to take the kids.
00:32:13.000And what turned into, like, a weekend, we literally lived in Palm Beach from the Friday after the election to Thanksgiving, came back for, like, five days.
00:32:35.000I was being present and helpful wherever I possibly could, especially in domains of influence where I think I could be, you know, an accessory.
00:32:45.000But I wasn't alone, which was what was so great.
00:34:29.000And then, yeah, just kind of camped out there.
00:34:32.000And I'll say this, that all the, like, first hundred days of all the executive orders is a byproduct of how seriously they took things in the transition.
00:34:41.000And never underestimate the sophistication of what this White House is doing.
00:34:45.000To and outside the media, obviously listen to our podcast.
00:34:48.000I mean, but you just see this last couple days, and again, we did a whole show on it today.
00:34:52.000We prevented possibly a nuclear war between India and Pakistan.
00:35:24.000This is Micah from Noble Gold Investments as well.
00:35:26.000Just want to say we really appreciate our partnership with you.
00:35:30.000Not to take it down a darker path, but what do you see as one of the larger threats to personal freedoms, not just in America, but kind of generally speaking?
00:35:39.000And what are some things that individuals can do to reassert their sovereignty and liberty and take steps to be more personally resilient?
00:36:04.000You owe it to yourself, to your children and your grandchildren, to spend one hour uninterrupted at chatgpt.com, get the premium membership, get the 4.5 model.
00:36:16.000You will, all of a sudden, it will sink in that the world is about to so fundamentally change, it will make the agrarian to the Industrial Revolution look like child's play.
00:36:26.000You owe it to, I mean, and I'm telling you, you can ask this thing anything.
00:36:29.000Write poetry, write a song, write a book, write a dissertation.
00:36:34.000You're going to realize that we're going to see massive, not just job displacement, but potentially an erosion of basic skills that our young people need to be able to survive.
00:36:42.000I'll give you one example of thousands I could give.
00:36:44.000People say, oh, Charlie, what jobs are being taken?
00:36:46.000A guy that was supposed to be in our show today, Brian Gertzner, says, listen, he runs a huge financial firm, very well known.
00:36:52.000He wanted to try to find out how his stock was going to perform.
00:36:55.000So for fun, for kicks and giggles, he put to GPT, hey, The stock earnings come out tomorrow.
00:37:15.000He would have had to hire three financial analysts with a two-weeks heads-up to get to that same conclusion.
00:37:20.000And so he's like, now my financial analyst is basically a chat GPT usher.
00:37:25.000And he said it's completely changed his business, where he's now reducing his headcount from hundreds of financial analysts to 30 much better paid ones that know how to incorporate and use AI.
00:37:34.000And I could extrapolate this into all of your businesses, guys, right?
00:37:37.000I actually think it could be very exciting from when you incorporate it with quantum computing and the ability to have customized medicine and early detection of healthcare and tumors and all sorts of stuff.
00:37:47.000But if we are not careful, AI inherently will become tyrannical and will take and seize control over us.
00:37:55.000But there's elements that are, I think, very dark to this.
00:37:59.000Finally, I mean, I know that you might be alluding to it, financial freedom is a big one.
00:38:04.000They're pushing so hard for a digitized global currency or whatever they want to call it, CBDC, Centralized Bank Digital Currency.
00:38:11.000Bad news, bad idea, and we should reject that.
00:38:14.000I think crypto is a pretty good idea, but quantum computing can actually break crypto, so that's a whole separate issue for another time, which most people don't actually know.
00:38:22.000But anyway, and then finally, the Democrat Party is the greatest threat to our liberty.
00:38:29.000Arif Halaby, Total Financial Solutions and TFS Financial Insurance Services.
00:38:33.000As someone who supports free market principles, And how do you think you can best empower young people in today's economic world?
00:38:41.000We own a firm that's really for 29 years have been out teaching and educating young people.
00:38:48.000Through Total Money School, which is another one of our companies, our objective is to help people become entrepreneurs.
00:38:54.000In fact, we've done scholarships for this for probably 20 years now.
00:38:57.000Anything that you can see from your point of view for young people for this table off to our left here that can make a difference in this next step?
00:39:22.000So one idea that actually has now made itself into the proposed draft of the Trump reconciliation bill is very simple.
00:39:29.000Every American that is born from this point forward with a Social Security number gets $1,000 deposited into an S&P 500 growth account that every person can then access.
00:39:44.000You can add to it, and you can see the market actually grow.
00:39:47.000Basically, what it will do is seven-and eight-year-olds that now have smartphones, they'll be able to see their own money grow in real time as they get older, turning them into invested capitalists in the American order, in the American economic order.
00:40:12.000You put in your social security number, all secured by cryptography and back-end access so it cannot be hacked, and your baby will get $1,000 deposited in there.
00:40:21.000It's a loan from Treasury, just so we are clear.
00:40:23.000The way they're working out the economics is fine.
00:40:24.000I think it's the best investment we can make.
00:40:27.000So then you have major philanthropists, people that are worth $100, $200 billion, saying, yeah, I'll give $50 billion to this to every kid born in the next 10 years.
00:40:55.000This is in the bill, everybody, that we need to push our elected leaders to do.
00:40:59.000I have not seen an idea this good and this concrete that can psychologically change how young people view.
00:41:05.000Because then all of a sudden, imagine if you're a 16-year-old in Compton, and you have a choice to join a gang, or after it compounds, you've got $80,000 waiting for you in account.
00:41:26.000Until the kid turns 18 by the kid himself.
00:41:29.000So that's the best idea I've heard, and I think that it is a great way to have people have actual equity in the system and not cynicism by the time they reach adulthood.
00:41:56.000And every Democrat will vote against it.
00:42:00.000If you want to make sense of the change and the chaos happening around us, you're going to need God's help.
00:42:05.000That's why Alan Jackson Ministries, a friend of mine, created the Culture and Christianity Podcast, the Culture and Christianity Conference, and their weeknight news show, Alan Jackson Now.
00:42:17.000Millions of people also listen to Pastor Alan Jackson's powerful sermons each week, I do, on radio, television, satellite, and online.
00:42:24.000In today's world, there's desperate need for truth, and Alan Jackson Ministries feels a sense of urgency to deliver God's truth and a biblical perspective to anyone who will listen.
00:42:38.000Their mission is to help people become more fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ, which is the most important thing, giving your life to the Lord, including here on The Charlie Kirk Show.
00:43:22.000My question is, we understand the impact that stories have on us and film has on us, and we're giving independent filmmakers a voice and a platform to tell these stories.
00:43:31.000What are some films and stories that impacted you in your childhood or recently?
00:43:36.000One of the reasons I love Angel Studios, if you guys haven't noticed, new movies are terrible and awful and impossible.
00:43:42.000I mean, look, I don't want to overly racialize this, but Gladiator 2 is just laughable before you even watch it, okay?
00:45:40.000So, actually, mine is, well, I'm Jim Petrell.
00:45:41.000I own a real estate company in Southern California.
00:45:44.000I'm the one who makes fun of Gavin Newsom by congratulating him to be the real estate agent of the year for causing more good Californians to leave California than anybody.
00:45:52.000Anyway, so my question is actually from my dad.
00:45:56.000Now, I told my dad I was here with you, and he said, please ask him for this.
00:46:00.000Now, for you to all know my dad, he's a former Marine, retired LAPD police officer, Medal of Honor recipient, two-time cancer survivor, almost 85, and has no filter.
00:46:42.000Number one, there's far more hope and opportunity on these campuses with the students than we could ever imagine.
00:46:48.000Number two, this is very important, unless it's Hillsdale, the institutions cannot be saved, they should not be saved, and they should be metaphorically burnt to the ground and defunded.
00:46:58.000Do not work to try to save your alma mater.
00:47:23.000It's like, what are, these are just administrators that control the bloat of the ideological direction of the institution.
00:47:30.000And the third thing I'll say is this, is that students are so hungry for the truth that, I could talk a lot about that, but I think we need to do more.
00:48:03.000I'm the TMJ expert's daughter, Daniela Simon.
00:48:06.000My question was going to be about faith, and I feel like you touched on this a couple times tonight, of just about, I was going to ask if people have not grown up in a household with faith, where it's been kind of interwoven into their traditions, their family life, if they have a great relationship with their parents, and the people that, you know.
00:48:26.000How do you get those people involved in your mission in a common sense way that they might What's your method for that?
00:48:40.000For people who are disconnected, who are disengaged and don't have it coming from the home?
00:48:45.000Yeah, I'll say a vast majority of people we went over are actually, they come from liberal households or from, you know, not religious households.
00:48:54.000The best way we can do that is have an open mic and tell us what you believe.
00:49:00.000It's really funny, and I say this with enormous weight, not taking credit for it, but what our team has done on social media, reaching billions of people, the equivalent probably would have cost somebody $500 million to run ads to reach what we did by just having an open mic on a college campus.
00:49:22.000And you think about it, maybe we're just like doing this whole thing wrong.
00:49:25.000Maybe we should just have raw, unfiltered, what do you believe?
00:49:40.000Colleges don't, I mean, at Hillsdale they do.
00:49:42.000But at these other schools, it is just repression, silence, intimidation.
00:49:48.000And one of the reasons why we're seeing the crowds that we are seeing, And we're seeing this hopeful trend is that it's so refreshing for these students that live in these totalitarian environments to actually have an unfiltered moment where people can say something as clear as men can't give birth.
00:50:05.000And in most of these campuses saying that will get you canceled, will get you kicked out of class.
00:50:10.000It's far worse than you guys could ever.
00:50:12.000I mean, we had, I don't need to spend too much on this, UC Riverside, a student that said, perfectly acceptable to kill all babies up until they're a year and a half outside of the womb.
00:50:48.000We allow investors to invest with their values.
00:50:51.000A lot of people don't realize with your retirement accounts or your brokerage accounts that your money is going to support things like abortion within your investment.
00:50:58.000So Monorail allows conservative investors to invest with their values.
00:51:03.000And my question for you is how you see Monorail, its vision in the broader parallel economy.
00:51:09.000Yeah, I mean, look, it's incredibly important to be able to have people have options, have choices.
00:51:15.000So many of the financial services sector is not about liberty or freedom.
00:51:20.000So our COL at Turning Point Action, Tyler Boyer, some of you guys know him, he literally got debanked by Bank of America for his association with Turning Point USA.