The Charlie Kirk Show - July 10, 2020


The Human Cost of Cancel Culture


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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:01.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we wrestle with some very deep and personal topics.
00:00:05.000 I hope that it can touch and bless some of you out there.
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00:00:16.000 This is a different type of episode.
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00:00:18.000 I think you'll enjoy it.
00:00:19.000 Here we go.
00:00:20.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:22.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:24.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:28.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:31.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:32.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:33.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:42.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:50.000 That's why we are here.
00:00:53.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:55.000 So I want to take a little different tact in this episode.
00:00:58.000 I'm going to talk about something somewhat personal.
00:01:02.000 I'm also going to go into some of the news of the day about the annihilation culture that is spreading across our country at the hands of cultural nihilists.
00:01:11.000 And it's interesting that word nihilism, because it's really been kind of popping up a lot in my readings that I do every single day.
00:01:19.000 And I try to read a couple hours a day and watch lectures and think very deeply about things.
00:01:24.000 A lot for you, by the way, listening to this podcast, because when I see the emails from you and I see the problems you're going through, I take such a deep burden of responsibility to make sure I'm delivering to you things that are grounded in truth and what is good for the world.
00:01:44.000 And so nihilism is a word that's been popping up a lot.
00:01:48.000 It's the philosophical view that all knowledge and values are baseless and that all knowledge lack a certain basis and all values are subjective.
00:01:59.000 Now, mind you, I find nihilism to be sort of useless because nihilists find everything else to be sort of useless.
00:02:07.000 So I was doing a lot of thinking about this and then on a personal note a couple days ago, someone who I got to know, I won't say this person's name decided to commit suicide.
00:02:17.000 And that was horrific.
00:02:21.000 And not the first person I've known to take their own life.
00:02:29.000 One of my childhood friends, Eddie, also committed suicide a couple years ago.
00:02:34.000 And it's happening with an incredibly alarming regularity.
00:02:41.000 And I'm the type of person that if I don't vocalize and create dialogue around something that I'm wrestling with, then I'm not actually able to get over it.
00:02:51.000 And I'm not able to write down my thoughts.
00:02:54.000 And so it's a very difficult thing when you see someone who has a life that seems organized and seems functional to then self-exit from existence.
00:03:06.000 And some people that do that, I guess, are engaging in nihilism and they say, what's the point?
00:03:12.000 But I just want to have this conversation first before I get into what the radical left is doing to our children and what they're doing in our culture.
00:03:21.000 And we'll talk about Don Lemon.
00:03:22.000 But for those of you that are listening to this podcast and that are struggling in any way, shape, or form with questions of, does my life matter?
00:03:37.000 The answer is absolutely it matters.
00:03:43.000 God did not create us to be useless atoms and bouncing cells on a planet for just our own self-indulgence and that's it, our own hedonistic pleasure.
00:03:58.000 And in fact, you as a human being has very significant meaning.
00:04:04.000 You do.
00:04:06.000 And in fact, we recognize that life is truly suffering.
00:04:10.000 It is.
00:04:11.000 I mean, life is a horrific exercise.
00:04:15.000 You guaranteed to suffer.
00:04:18.000 But that means you can feel.
00:04:20.000 And if you can feel, that means you're actually living.
00:04:24.000 And that life is a gift from God.
00:04:27.000 And I know there's one person listening to this right now that needs to hear this.
00:04:31.000 And if that one person listening to this is impacted by it, then this is worth it.
00:04:37.000 Because I have lost too many people in my orbit to suicide.
00:04:42.000 And it's something that really bothers me because it's like, how could you do that?
00:04:48.000 But it's not that I'm actually looking for the thought process that would get you there.
00:04:53.000 Because if you're honest about wrestling with your own darkness, in some ways you're like, wow, okay, you can see how someone could do that.
00:05:00.000 Instead, it is, how do you as an individual, through a sequence of broader admissions, think that your decisions no longer mean anything.
00:05:17.000 And so look, the trap that the nihilists and the secular humanists try to lay for us is that your decisions have no impact.
00:05:27.000 That is not true.
00:05:30.000 Before you think your life has no meaning, straighten out your life the best you can.
00:05:36.000 Become the best person you possibly can.
00:05:39.000 Tell the truth.
00:05:40.000 Get your moral decisions in the best order you possibly can.
00:05:46.000 Commit to living out the truth.
00:05:50.000 This is something that's very important to vocalize and talk about because far too often we put a stigma around self-struggle.
00:06:00.000 We almost isolate.
00:06:01.000 It's become third rail in a lot of different ways.
00:06:04.000 That human beings are not allowed to wrestle and not allowed to vocalize when they're going through something very difficult and when they're going through something that is personal beyond explanation.
00:06:21.000 And people say, well, I can't say this because people are going to think I'm weird or people are going to think I'm not normal.
00:06:28.000 Well, I'm telling you right now, if you're going through any of that right now, you can email me, freedom at charlottekirk.com.
00:06:35.000 And if I can help you, I will help you.
00:06:39.000 If I can't, I'll tell you to someone who can help you.
00:06:42.000 Because every single person on this planet has a purpose.
00:06:45.000 That's right.
00:06:46.000 You have a purpose that you have to fulfill, that you have to live out.
00:06:52.000 And I do believe that God gives you a certain amount of free will.
00:06:56.000 I really do believe that.
00:06:57.000 A freedom to be able to make choices.
00:07:01.000 And that's a really hard topic to wrestle with and to struggle with because you ask yourself, well, if God is truly almighty, how do I have free will?
00:07:09.000 Is free will just an aberration?
00:07:12.000 And when I see someone who is 29 years old, who is someone that I knew and that I spent time with, decide that their life was no longer worth living, if I didn't believe in free will, that would be a hard thing for me to wrestle with, even harder than I could possibly articulate.
00:07:32.000 So for me personally, I get so much peace believing in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, peace in reading the Bible.
00:07:42.000 And the beauty about reading the Bible, it's the only book that the more you read it, it actually reads you.
00:07:51.000 If you're a nihilist, which if you're listening to this, I don't think you are.
00:07:54.000 And you say, what's the point in all this?
00:07:56.000 We're just dust.
00:07:58.000 Nothing means anything.
00:08:00.000 We're just clobbers of cells.
00:08:01.000 We're just kinetic atoms.
00:08:06.000 If that is you or someone that you know, then what is beauty?
00:08:10.000 What is love?
00:08:13.000 And some people don't have answers for that.
00:08:15.000 They say, oh, then all this stuff matters.
00:08:17.000 It's just chemicals bouncing around.
00:08:19.000 I refuse to believe that.
00:08:21.000 We are spiritual beings.
00:08:22.000 We are here for a purpose.
00:08:25.000 And if you're listening to this, if you make good choices and you straighten yourself out and you aim yourself correctly, aim yourself towards a goal, and you write down on a piece of paper what success looks like and what a flourishing life looks like, that can really have an impact on you.
00:08:43.000 It really can.
00:08:46.000 And so, and something that I've been journaling a lot about and something I've been reading a lot about because it's just, it's so hard.
00:08:54.000 I mean, how many more funerals do I have to go to for people that commit suicide?
00:08:58.000 It makes me absolutely sick to my stomach.
00:09:02.000 And so here I am right now doing what I believe is the greatest thing I can do using my platform that is listened to by countless young people and people all across the country.
00:09:14.000 And I'm speaking to you individually right now.
00:09:17.000 Your life matters.
00:09:18.000 You matter.
00:09:19.000 Your decisions matter.
00:09:22.000 You can live an exciting, exhilarating, incredibly fulfilling life.
00:09:31.000 If someone wronged you, that is not a reason to do something to yourself.
00:09:36.000 In fact, doing that to yourself is so incredibly selfish to yourself, and it hurts people around you more than you can put yourself in words.
00:09:45.000 I can't put into words the kind of struggle mentally I've had to go through at times when people I grow up with decide that they no longer want to be on the planet.
00:09:55.000 Could I have done more?
00:09:56.000 Could I have done something different?
00:09:57.000 Could I have said something?
00:09:59.000 It is a form of torture for those of us that are left behind when someone decides to do that.
00:10:04.000 And I'm not condemning it.
00:10:06.000 I'm just speaking truthfully and honestly about it.
00:10:10.000 I consider this life to be such a gift from God that anyone who does that, it shakes me completely to the core.
00:10:24.000 I remember when Eddie, my childhood friend, committed suicide.
00:10:29.000 I grew up with this kid.
00:10:30.000 I played football with him.
00:10:31.000 I knew his family.
00:10:32.000 I drove him home from high school.
00:10:33.000 He messaged me two weeks before he decided to commit suicide.
00:10:38.000 And you want to talk about a demon that I have?
00:10:44.000 Having to think to myself, what if I could have done something different or something more?
00:10:56.000 So you can, you got, I, I, there's really no happy or easy way to end this sort of discussion, but it just needs to be said because if we're not talking about something, then you're letting it fester up, and then God knows what happens after that.
00:11:14.000 You're not worthless.
00:11:18.000 You're made beautifully in the image of God, and your life matters so much.
00:11:24.000 So that's my message to you today to start the podcast.
00:11:28.000 So you guys can email me, freedom at charliekirk.com, and I hope I can help you.
00:11:32.000 I hope I can pray for you.
00:11:33.000 I hope I can be there for you.
00:11:34.000 So I think I'd be doing a moral disservice if I didn't, because it was really been bothering me the last couple days.
00:11:43.000 And what drives a lot of these people to do that is the fact that we have now Created a system of what we used to call cyberbullying, we now call social justice.
00:11:56.000 So now I'm transitioning to a couple stories here.
00:12:00.000 I'm going to finish with a critique of Don Lemon and I'm going to get back to this topic to finish the episode, which is this story from the college fix.
00:12:09.000 I saw this story and I said, you know what, you want to know why so many kids are committing suicide?
00:12:12.000 It's because of this.
00:12:14.000 Soon-to-be Marquette University freshman Samantha Perferal, I might have mispronounced her name, has yet to even set foot on campus, yet she said she's already facing possible dismissal from school.
00:12:24.000 Why?
00:12:25.000 Because she made a Donald Trump TikTok on the Chinese app that we have advocated deleting.
00:12:32.000 Video features a Trump 2020 flag as well as a sign reading Marquette 2024 along with a rap song with lyrics, He's Mad, She's Mad, Big Sad, Ha ha, Don't Care, Stay Mad, taunting her peers to cancel her for supporting the president.
00:12:45.000 Her post has been seen 600,000 times and has since caught the attention of Marquette community.
00:12:50.000 They then interrogated her.
00:12:51.000 Other people said, I hope you get shot.
00:12:53.000 One commentator says, I'd pray for you, but you're not worth it.
00:12:56.000 Another user added.
00:12:57.000 And of course, the media is not covering this.
00:13:00.000 And the university literally approached her and asked her, What is your thoughts on Dreamers?
00:13:09.000 What are your thoughts on DACA?
00:13:11.000 Interrogating her, threatening to pull her admission to Marquette University.
00:13:16.000 This kind of culture of annihilation, which some people call cancel culture, is having real impacts on our children.
00:13:23.000 That's what makes them think that nothing is worth it.
00:13:27.000 I mean, the left supposedly cares about human beings.
00:13:30.000 They are the nihilists.
00:13:32.000 The left, the ones that are the ones that are doing the cyberbullying, they think everything is useless.
00:13:36.000 Burn it all down.
00:13:38.000 Nietzsche really struggled with this, and Nietzsche talked about this a lot.
00:13:43.000 And he was in some ways a nihilist philosopher.
00:13:46.000 And so did Heidegger and other thinkers and writers.
00:13:51.000 Which is, who are we but specks of dust?
00:13:53.000 God is dead.
00:13:54.000 Nothing matters.
00:13:55.000 That is not true.
00:13:57.000 It's not.
00:13:59.000 And when we go after our young people like Samantha, who just makes a Trump 2020 TikTok and she gets threatened to have dismissal from her school and she gets interrogated and she gets targeted like this, I mean, my goodness.
00:14:13.000 Now, what if I told you that some of the surprising people who would agree with me that this sort of culture is corrosive and a deep rot is Marxist philosopher Noam Chomsky and even J.K. Rowling?
00:14:25.000 Well, that actually is the case.
00:14:27.000 And in a concise and compelling open letter published recently in Harper's Magazine, which is actually the second oldest monthly magazine in the United States, where prominent leftists came forward to condemn cancel culture.
00:14:39.000 And by the way, if you email freedom at charliekirk.com with who you think America's oldest monthly magazine is with the right answer, I'll send you a free copy of the MAGA Doctrine.
00:14:48.000 We'll see how your trivia is.
00:14:50.000 First 20 people to get it right, freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:14:54.000 I do want to really read some of this to you because I think it's a real cultural turning point in our society.
00:14:59.000 This is the left clawing the Overton window away from the Marxists, or at least trying to.
00:15:04.000 They're trying to take back control of the narrative, and it is indeed brave in this age.
00:15:08.000 Now, before I say this, just remember, when we have this culture the way that it is, when we have the culture going in the direction that it's going, it explains why 29-year-olds are taking their life.
00:15:23.000 Because you take all of their meaning away.
00:15:26.000 Here's what they say.
00:15:27.000 The forces of illiberalism are gaining strength throughout the world and have a powerful ally in Donald Trump.
00:15:32.000 Yeah, sure.
00:15:33.000 Who represents a real threat to democracy.
00:15:35.000 But resistance must not allow to harden into its own brand of dogma or coercion, which right-wing demagogues are already exploiting.
00:15:42.000 The democratic inclusion we want can be achieved only if we speak out against the intolerant climate that is set in on all sides.
00:15:49.000 Okay, I never said it was 100% true, but I said that it's pretty interesting that the left-wingers are even speaking out against what's happening.
00:15:57.000 It goes on by saying: the free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is becoming more constricted.
00:16:04.000 We uphold the value of robust and even caustic counterspeech from all quarters, but it is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought.
00:16:15.000 More troubling still, institutional leaders in a spirit of panicked damage control, delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms.
00:16:22.000 Editors are fired for running controversial pieces.
00:16:25.000 Books are withdrawn from alleged inauthenticity.
00:16:27.000 Journalists are barred from writing on certain topics, and professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class.
00:16:33.000 Part of this, of course, refers to the failing New York Times that was conveniently part of this entire culture.
00:16:41.000 The editor had to step down because he published a piece from Senator Tom Cotton.
00:16:44.000 The letter finishes by saying this: The stifling atmosphere will ultimately harm the most vital causes of our time.
00:16:50.000 The restriction of debate, whether by a repressive government or an intolerant society, invariably hurts those who lack power and make everyone less capable of democratic participation.
00:16:58.000 The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away.
00:17:03.000 We refuse any false choice between justice and freedom, which we cannot allow without the other.
00:17:08.000 Now, this one's from Fox News.
00:17:09.000 It says: Several staffers at Vox have taken to Twitter after journalist Matthew Iglesia signed the open letter to crying cancel culture.
00:17:16.000 As a trans woman who very much values her position at Vox and the support the publication has given her throughout the emotional and physical turmoil of the transition, I'm deeply sanitized to see Matt Iglesias' signature on the Harper Weekly's letter.
00:17:28.000 VanderWerf began her letter to the editors.
00:17:30.000 Matt is, of course, entitled to his own opinion, and I know he's a much more nuanced thinker than signing the letter would suggest.
00:17:36.000 He has never been anything but kind to me and has often supported my work publicly, all of which I'm extremely grateful for.
00:17:41.000 So, of course, the natural reaction to the anti-cancel culture letter was to immediately try and cancel anyone who signed on to the letter.
00:17:47.000 I do want to conclude this segment with: so, yes, this is fine, but the left-wing elite is still completely oblivious to the real problems in America.
00:17:55.000 And again, you want answers for why people are engaging in self-hatred, where we're not building people up around meaning.
00:18:04.000 It's because you destroy their entire livelihood if they dare speak out against the cultural orthodoxy.
00:18:11.000 You destroy speech, it festers up within somebody, and then they might actually take their own life.
00:18:17.000 And we are seeing that happen at a rapid rate.
00:18:22.000 Now, mind you, there are plenty of left-wing signatories on that letter.
00:18:25.000 One that certainly wasn't there was Don Lemon.
00:18:28.000 And so, I want to spend one moment on Don Lemon, then I want to finish the show here talking about what I started talking about, started the show with.
00:18:35.000 He said this: Don Lemon said something so unbelievably reprehensible.
00:18:40.000 He said that Jesus Christ admittedly was not perfect while he was here on earth.
00:18:44.000 Don't believe me, play tape.
00:18:45.000 Jesus Christ, if you believe in, if that's who you believe in, Jesus Christ, admittedly was not perfect when he was here on this earth.
00:18:54.000 So, look, this is theologically and morally fallacious.
00:18:59.000 Jesus Christ lived a perfect life so that all of us could have eternal life.
00:19:06.000 See, Jesus Christ was a historical figure, he was a real person, raised in Nazareth, called the 12 disciples in the region around the Sea of Galilee, spoke on the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 mostly, and the Mount of the Beatitudes.
00:19:27.000 Everything human beings need to hear was said by Jesus Christ, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.
00:19:34.000 He was more than just a teacher, though.
00:19:36.000 He was the ultimate sacrifice.
00:19:40.000 Christ is the ultimate truth.
00:19:43.000 So, Don Lemon saying he sinned, There is no verse, there is no scripture that supports any of this.
00:19:51.000 Jesus Christ lived a perfect life.
00:19:54.000 And if you're listening to this right now and you feel that you're not enough, surrender to Jesus Christ because you're not enough.
00:20:02.000 You're right.
00:20:04.000 The moment that you surrender to Christ, truly surrender, it is the most liberating feeling you can imagine, giving your life to Jesus Christ.
00:20:12.000 And I know a lot of you listening, this might have had bad experiences with religion, but hear me out.
00:20:17.000 You respect me enough to listen this far into my podcast.
00:20:21.000 You respect me enough to hopefully subscribe to my show.
00:20:25.000 Let me tell you what it's done for my life.
00:20:27.000 When I try to find value and truth, and I can find those things in certain secular documents, but when I really dive into the authenticity of the Bible and the story of Christianity, it makes me who I am.
00:20:45.000 Nothing is more important than my faith in a Creator that made us in his image, in the image of God.
00:20:53.000 And we talk about this a lot at the Falkirk Center for Faith and Liberty.
00:20:58.000 And I believe firmly that people who struggle deeply with mental health issues and struggle deeply with self-identification issues, a lot of it is because they have not come into a relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:21:12.000 And Don Lemon, he's an absolute con man and a grifter.
00:21:16.000 We've been through that previously, and he intentionally misrepresents the gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:21:22.000 We have to understand that life is an enduring struggle.
00:21:27.000 Life does have meaning, however.
00:21:30.000 Focus and aim on what matters, and that is Jesus Christ.
00:21:34.000 We are spiritual beings.
00:21:37.000 Jesus came to save us from our horribly broken nature.
00:21:43.000 Every person listening to this podcast has real and major issues.
00:21:48.000 We are totally depraved in our sin.
00:21:52.000 We are so unbelievably far from God.
00:21:55.000 We need Jesus, who is truth and light, to save all of us.
00:21:59.000 We need Christ, who is love in flesh, to help us resist and offer salvation from the darkest elements of our nature.
00:22:07.000 I encourage and implore you to surrender everything to him.
00:22:12.000 Have Jesus become the commander-in-chief, chairman of the board, CEO, and singular director of our lives.
00:22:20.000 I believe God gave us the ability to choose Jesus or reject him.
00:22:25.000 I decide to follow Jesus.
00:22:28.000 I decide to follow truth.
00:22:30.000 I choose to follow what is good and pure in the world.
00:22:34.000 I see beauty, and I see future and eternity in Jesus.
00:22:40.000 I see total redemption through God's Son.
00:22:44.000 Life is a gift.
00:22:47.000 It's a gift because we have Jesus.
00:22:50.000 What are you doing every single day to advance God's glory?
00:22:55.000 What are we doing each and every minute to grow closer to him?
00:22:59.000 Jesus embodies everything that is righteous and good in the world.
00:23:04.000 Obey his commandments.
00:23:06.000 Straighten your path out.
00:23:08.000 There is a point that all of us will meet of total surrender.
00:23:15.000 Life in all of its horrific totality still has meaning.
00:23:21.000 The Christian story, the Christian journey, the Christian truth, the truth, is an antidote to all of the nihilists, all of the people that say, what does all this matter?
00:23:34.000 I'll tell you why it matters.
00:23:36.000 Heaven is a real place.
00:23:40.000 Just like Cleveland and just like Des Moines, Iowa are real places.
00:23:43.000 Heaven is a real place you can go to.
00:23:46.000 You surrender to Jesus, where John 3.16 says, for God so loved the world that he gave his only son, and whoever believes in him shall have eternal life.
00:23:59.000 That was, of course, with Jesus' private conversation with Nicodemus, John 3.16.
00:24:07.000 You follow Jesus and you make that your purpose.
00:24:10.000 It does beg the question, why would we exist with all of our faculties, all of our gifts, if nothing mattered?
00:24:21.000 A lot of these thoughts I'm sharing with you, I've wrestled with and I've struggled with and I've poured hours into when I'm grieving another person who self-exits from our world.
00:24:33.000 It's not an easy thing, you know.
00:24:35.000 It's not to have to see someone in your orbit and see someone that you touched and someone that you knew that decided to not be here anymore.
00:24:50.000 It's an incredibly strenuous experience, and I know a lot of you have gone through it.
00:24:55.000 I know some of you are going through it right now.
00:25:02.000 Every day you can participate in an experiment to make this world a little less like hell and to make yourself closer to God and eventually be with God in heaven.
00:25:14.000 To be able to embrace the Spirit.
00:25:17.000 Have the Spirit flow within you, the Holy Spirit.
00:25:24.000 If any of you are struggling with any of these issues, you can email me.
00:25:28.000 There's lots of hotlines available that you can speak to.
00:25:31.000 But more than any of that, I want you to know that you are not alone in what you're going through.
00:25:38.000 That there is a better day ahead where you will be free of that inner struggle you might be going through, free of that question, what does all this mean?
00:25:47.000 Is any of it actually matter?
00:25:49.000 The answer is, yes, it does.
00:25:52.000 Everything was placed here for a purpose from God for you, including you.
00:26:00.000 I pray that you can live that out and believe it.
00:26:03.000 So thank you guys for supporting our program at charliekirk.com/slash support.
00:26:07.000 I know this episode is a little different and deeper than most, but that's what makes our podcast different as we touch on topics and issues, cultural issues that other people won't.
00:26:17.000 So I pray for anyone going through this struggle right now.
00:26:21.000 I pray for anyone that might need those words of encouragement.
00:26:25.000 I pray, as I'm recording this right now, I pray that this will touch at least one person that needs to hear this.
00:26:32.000 One person that knows someone that needs to hear this.
00:26:34.000 That would make it all worth it.
00:26:36.000 Thank you guys so much.
00:26:37.000 God bless you.
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00:26:40.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:26:42.000 Till next time, thanks so