00:00:53.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:02:10.000But the reality is that even if he were to fall back on a continuing resolution, which you and I probably are not big fans of, even if he were to do that, he would be at $100 billion less than the level that he has proposed with Chuck Schumer.
00:02:28.000That you could do what this town finds rather easy to do continuing resolutions because the way that the debt limit works, that level, that continuing resolution level, would trigger across the board cuts that would cause $100 billion less than this level agreed to by Mike Johnson.
00:02:49.000And I think that's really why this is such a bad deal.
00:02:52.000And to be clear, all of those cuts would be on non-defense.
00:03:02.000I mean, ahead of lettuce could have just said CR.
00:03:05.000And so the deal is worse than business as usual in Washington, D.C.
00:03:10.000And why is Speaker Johnson, this Christian guy who's always quoting Bible verses to us, saying this is a big win?
00:03:17.000Because I think that he is captured by his conference right now and their fear of conflict.
00:03:23.000And as a result, he can't negotiate, is unwilling to, let's not say can't, is unwilling to negotiate with Democrats in such a way that he's prepared to them say, okay, we're going to shut down the government.
00:03:36.000And that's what's necessary to be able to actually have any policy wins.
00:03:41.000If you have one side that says, we're going to shut down the government, we don't get our way, and our side is never, ever willing to do that, you're never going to win.
00:03:49.000And the way we work in Washington, D.C., there's only a few different leverage points that ever matter.
00:03:55.000And so just don't tell the American people that the House Republicans are going to be trying to save the country, but they're not willing to use the leverage points like the debt limit, which Kevin Carthy gave away, or this final appropriations leverage point, which Mike Johnson is on the cusp of giving away.
00:04:10.000Just be honest with the American people and your voters.
00:04:15.000We are not going to change business as usual in the nation's capital.
00:04:19.000And I really put forward yesterday the notion that, look, I think a head of lettuce could do a better job than the negotiating team that went in with my successor, the Office of Management Budget and the leadership team on the Senate side and negotiated this deal.
00:04:35.000I mean, this is what they would have wanted.
00:04:45.000In what universe are we supposed to think Joe Biden celebrating is a win for our country?
00:04:52.000Well, I mean, that's proof of the pudding.
00:04:54.000You have Chuck Schumer saying that not a nickel was cut, but just look at the calendar, right?
00:04:58.000It's not like there's a shutdown tomorrow.
00:05:02.000We're like two weeks out, a week and a half out of the first leverage point, the first expiration date.
00:05:08.000So you have to think through, like, if the Democrats are agreeing, period, you know that they have gotten what they wanted unless they have been on the other side of bleeding as a result of a political fight.
00:05:19.000If they're agreeing to it, you know they won.
00:05:21.000If they're agreeing it to a week and a half in advance of any deadline, you know that they couldn't have gotten a better deal when they whiteboarded it in their office.
00:05:32.000And unfortunately, this is being pushed by Speaker Johnson as some kind of good deal that the Republican media establishment should praise and get on board with.
00:05:45.000Why is there such an aversion to shutdowns of the government?
00:05:52.000Can you just go through a brief history?
00:05:54.000We shut down the government under Trump, and it actually increased our operating leverage.
00:05:59.000We shut down the government with Boehner briefly.
00:06:01.000Gingrich had a very long shutdown back in the 90s.
00:06:04.000Sometimes showing that a shutdown is something that you're not afraid of as if it's apocalyptic nuclear war actually can get you more concessions.
00:06:16.000And what does a shutdown actually mean?
00:06:18.000And why is Speaker Johnson so deathly afraid of it?
00:06:25.000The shutdowns that have occurred have always been either a net positive or a win in terms of Republican Senate seats that were won or an issue being magnified in front of the American people.
00:06:37.000When you have a lapse, and that's the technical word for it, when you have a lapse in funding, the federal government doesn't shut down.
00:06:59.000What goes away largely is the parts of the bureaucracy for a time that we generally don't like, the woke and weaponized bureaucracy.
00:07:08.000And as a result, the American people get a sense for what government would look like at a smaller level.
00:07:16.000But it's not as if this is politically apocalyptic by any means, but there has arisen a meme, a framework, a paradigm that this is always and forever more nuclear and hurtful to Republican prospects.
00:07:33.000And as a result, the cartel, that's really my view for the unit party, because the cartel gives up political, gives up price generally.
00:07:43.000A business cartel says, look, we're going to sacrifice what we could get if we were all competing with each other.
00:07:49.000In a political cartel, what they do is for stability, they guard against risk.
00:07:54.000And so they say, Look, you know, we're just not going to allow the high-stakes risk that is involved with a government shutdown where the eyes of the world are on us.
00:08:06.000Because they don't want the eyes of the world to be on the reality of our border.
00:08:10.000They don't want the eyes of the world to be discussing what's going on with the Department of Justice.
00:08:15.000Because the average person who's listening to country music right now and not, you know, WMAL is not concerned necessarily as to the stakes of what people are seeing.
00:08:25.000But when you start breaking into their normal broadcasting and saying we have a government shutdown, partial lapse, all of a sudden you're like, man, that's a human trafficking problem.
00:08:35.000That's a huge problem that you're having, you know, pro-lifers getting squatted because they care about the sanctity of life.
00:08:43.000And that's really why the cartel doesn't want these high stakes.
00:08:46.000They know that it is our chance to educate the American people and actually accomplish our policy objectives.
00:08:53.000Yeah, so I got to ask you: every day we hit this topic, Russ, and I warn my audience, I don't try to pick topics that are demoralizing or depressing, but this is necessary.
00:09:03.000No one is doing what is necessary on the border.
00:09:07.000Has Speaker Johnson secured any wins on the border in this latest capitulation to Chuck Hugh Schumer?
00:09:24.000So he's basically said, look, I'm setting this up for the funding levels, but all of the policy objectives are still in play.
00:09:33.000But if the Democrats know that you're afraid of the policy objectives, they're just going to say no to your pop, they're going to say no to all of their policy proposals.
00:09:43.000They'll just say, no, we'll shut the government down.
00:09:45.000So if you're afraid on the funding, you're going to be afraid on the policy.
00:09:49.000And as a result, this is nothing more than a white flag to Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden that the House Republicans are not serious.
00:10:17.000The bad guys, they said, okay, if we give 80 billion to the IRS, then in future negotiations, we can make it 60 billion instead of 80 billion.
00:10:27.000Therefore, they can feel as if they're winning.
00:10:29.000They can go back to their base and make it seem that way, even though they're not actual cuts.
00:12:26.000I want to just riff off your last line, which you were explaining the way they plussed up the money on IRS.
00:12:31.000It's their version of pumping and dumping, which we would use in the market, right?
00:12:36.000They intentionally go extravagant on a program knowing they can never spend that much money.
00:12:41.000They'll spend more than they would otherwise in the IRS, but it's a future pay for for when they are out of power in one of the branches.
00:12:50.000Where I would cut is the woke and weaponized bureaucracy.
00:12:54.000And so for a long time, Republicans have done, I think, strategically the unsound thing, which is go after the entitlements that there's a lot of people around the country that have invested in them.
00:13:07.000And I think that's the wrong approach.
00:13:09.000And we put forward trillions of dollars in cuts to things that are the agencies that are weaponized against them.
00:13:19.000And they are, think of the Department of Education.
00:13:21.000We're not dealing with teaching improved math scores or teaching how to read.
00:13:26.000We're talking about culturally responsive learning.
00:13:29.000We're talking about applied critical race theory that you are pumping into our schools and you're turning them into a cultural revolutionaries, both your teachers and your students.
00:13:39.000So it's not like we just can't afford this.
00:13:44.000Or in our foreign aid, it's not that we're going to have the next version of the Marshall Plan.
00:13:49.000No, we're funding gay pride parades in Prague.
00:13:53.000We're funding LGBT activists in Senegal.
00:13:56.000And we wonder why these organizations, these nations hate our guts.
00:14:01.000It's because we pump the sewage into their country or housing of urban development.
00:14:07.000We think about, oh, well, this fair housing network is there to make sure everyone can buy and sell in a particular neighborhood, but that's not what it does.
00:14:16.000It is a network that's anti-single family homes and neighborhoods themselves.
00:14:21.000And so if you go into Arlington County where I live, which is very liberal, do you know one of the main topics that unites on a bipartisan basis?
00:14:30.000It's these single family home neighborhood policies that are designed to ensure that those neighborhoods are blown up with these massive apartment buildings.
00:14:40.000So I want there to be a cultural debate on the ways that the agencies, the bureaucracy that is woke and weaponized, is now harmed, is aimed in harming the American people.
00:14:52.000It's not that we just can't afford it anymore.
00:14:57.000And we've never had that kind of debate.
00:14:59.000That's the debate that I've wanted to have over the last year.
00:15:02.000We've put forward an entire budget that balances in 10 and provides the specifics along the lines of what I've articulated.
00:15:09.000So can you also just mention, I know you talk about the entitlements being put, I don't like that term, but things that people have paid into.
00:15:20.000But the COVID relief stuff, how much money is there still under the COVID relief packages in DC?
00:15:28.000You know, it's hard to get true numbers, but there are billions of dollars.
00:15:32.000In fact, they've just green lighted the states and localities continuing to use that.
00:15:38.000So it's certainly something that we need to strip.
00:15:40.000But the Republicans have also been using it kind of like the IRS funding as part of their pump and dump strategy, which is to say that, you know, if we rescind that, you know, we don't have to make cuts elsewhere.
00:15:52.000In fact, Joe Biden, that's one of the things that Mike Johnson claims that he got a small win is they got another $6 billion of COVID funding.
00:16:01.000The Democrats are largely okay with giving that up.
00:16:05.000Because their main strategic objective, which should be what we are aiming to stop, is to keep all of the funding at the agencies going at either the same or an increased clip.
00:16:17.000And that's why we're so focused like a laser on making sure that our cuts are to the bureaucracy because that's what they're trying to guard at all costs.
00:16:29.000It's just the reluctance to cut spending.
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00:18:42.000But it did involve general anesthesia.
00:18:46.000Now, I'm honored to run Turning Point USA.
00:18:50.000When I had my wisdom teeth removed and I was going to be incommunicado for like six hours, there was a whole chain of command that we established.
00:22:52.000I mean, Joe Biden is in better shape than Lloyd Austin.
00:22:54.000Not better mental shape, but better physical shape.
00:22:58.000So he, so apparently, the ultimate civilian authority under the Constitution was kept in dark for additional 48 hours until the afternoon of January 4th.
00:23:06.000Praise God, our nation wasn't attacked during this period of time.
00:23:12.000Praise God, China didn't try to take Taiwan.
00:23:16.000I mean, we should be thanking the good Lord that while this overweight lunatic getting some sort of surgery, that he won't tell us what it is, which is really weird, right?
00:23:44.000National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan alerted the president, but the Pentagon waited to announce the hospitalization until after 5 p.m. on January 5th on a Friday night news dump and a statement that clayed the secretary had resumed his duties.
00:23:57.000Biden did not then speak with his defense chief until the evening of January 6th.
00:24:01.000Who is running this government exactly?
00:24:32.000If I all of a sudden went dark in one of our group chats beyond Shabbat into mid-Sunday, into late Sunday, somebody at Turning Point USA, Andrew or Blake or Ryan, be like, where's Charlie?
00:27:17.000The most incomprehensible fact is that Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks did not find out her boss was hospitalized until January 4th.
00:27:24.000And she's on some bender in Barbados or something.
00:31:20.000I want to make sure I get my facts right, but we have him in a text message saying something of the sort to a family member that I am responsible for this.
00:31:31.000I want to make sure we get our facts 100% crisp here.
00:31:36.000And he got a less punishment than Owen Schroer, InfoWars host, who never entered the Capitol and got solitary confinement in a federal prison.
00:31:49.000Right now, Siaka Masakwai, an amazing black patriot who poked his head inside of the Capitol for 10 seconds and walked out, is facing years in prison.
00:32:01.000This is cut 57 of Ray Epps, play cut 57.
00:32:06.000Yeah, well, just saying, come on, we're far beyond that.
00:32:10.000If you're not far beyond that, oh, yeah, you know that.
00:32:29.000Now, amazingly, some of the people then respond to him by saying Fed, Fed, Fed.
00:32:35.000And ironically and tragically, the very same people that said Fed, Fed, Fed actually ended up going into the Capitol and are now serving federal prison.
00:32:42.000Ray Epps told people the night before to enter the Capitol.
00:32:45.000He told people the day of to enter the Capitol.
00:32:52.000He told people vaguely to leave certain weapons behind before we quote go in to avoid getting shot.
00:32:58.000He was initially pushing one of the most, he was initially pushed as one of the most wanted figures on January 6th, and then he was removed from the website.
00:33:15.000But the idea that this is just a baseless conspiracy theory is a lie.
00:33:19.000And now this slap on the wrist sentencing only is fuel to the fire of such foundational speculation.
00:33:30.000They're pushing an actual lie about January 6th that this was an insurrection by Trump.
00:33:37.000He is one of the only people that we have on camera and the only person that I know off the top of my head explicitly saying the night before that we need to enter the Capitol.
00:33:49.000So they're trying to put Donald Trump in prison for incitement.
00:33:53.000What about the guy that didn't even attend the speech that was almost acting like a field general?
00:33:59.000This feels and senses, we sense it's almost like a cover-up.
00:34:05.000That if they did nothing, it would be too obvious.
00:34:10.000But if he pled and the right arrangements were made, Ray Epps could get no prison time, one year probation, and a $500 fine.
00:34:24.000So the most immediate, important question is: will every other January 6th defendant that is now facing the same sort of trials be treated similarly?
00:34:35.000If they plead, will they be treated the way Ray Epps was treated?
00:34:43.000Because what we have Ray Epps doing on camera is far more suspicious and borderline incriminating than what some of these other people have been sentenced for.
00:34:55.000Trespassing, interfering with an official proceeding.
00:35:00.000Ray Epps is charged with a misdemeanor for disorderly conduct.
00:35:03.000In a vacuum, that's not an undercharge.
00:35:05.000That's what everyone on JSEX who didn't literally assault an officer should have gotten.
00:35:09.000But instead, only Epps gets it nearly three years later.