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00:01:33.000Right, so that is the lead today that the world.
00:01:37.000Feels upside down in so many different ways, and we're going to get into it in this first hour in multiple different from multiple different vantage points.
00:01:46.000What we're seeing with the Lindsey Clancy story is probably exhibit A.
00:01:52.000Of course, Lindsey Clancy is the woman that is not even accused, she's admitted that she strangled her three children, and yet the internet is awash with people defending her, sympathizing with her, raising money for her.
00:02:05.000It's about a million bucks now on this GoFundMe, which is just.
00:02:21.000We had Chris Ruffo on and we asked him a bit.
00:02:24.000And it was the case of Cambridge professor Jason Arday.
00:02:28.000And so Arday was an education professor who started to get a lot of attention late July.
00:02:33.000A blogger, Nathan Kaufness, wrote an article on Substech that basically said this guy is a celebrity professor.
00:02:39.000He was the youngest full Cambridge professor in the school's.
00:02:42.000Thousand year history, and he said, This guy is a plagiarist, he's a fabulist, and the school is protecting him.
00:02:49.000And this could have been a pretty quiet scandal, I think.0.91
00:02:51.000Except a ton of academics came out, signed a big letter saying, Any attacks on Professor Arde are racist and bad, and you guys should all shut up.
00:03:01.000The press started to write more about it, and they discovered everything about this guy's life was a fraud.
00:03:07.000He had all of these spectacular claims, like he basically had Munchausen syndrome, if you're familiar with that, where you Fake illnesses.
00:03:13.000So he was saying, I had, he was said he wasn't able to, he was like nonverbal until he was a teenager, that he couldn't read or write until he was 18, but then got a PhD.
00:03:22.000He said that he had like an accident and had locked in syndrome where he was totally paralyzed except for his eyes for six months.
00:03:30.000All of these spectacular claims that couldn't be verified.
00:03:33.000Finally, the heat got too much and he resigned his professorship, but then this took a very dark turn on Friday last week because he was found dead.
00:03:43.000It's very likely that he killed himself.
00:03:46.000And that, Is a huge tragedy, but where this has taken a dark turn, especially because it is the UK, is thousands of people are rallying out in public.
00:03:55.000You can show that B roll and signing petitions and saying the media lynched this professor out of racism because he was black, that we need to have controls on the press.
00:04:07.000And, like, let's be clear it is sad this young man, well, actually, I say young man, he's older than me.
00:05:02.000So, Arte, after he killed himself, you know, yeah, you've got this huge gathering in the UK of a bunch of, I would say, DEI supporters, leftist radicals.
00:05:12.000But when this would get exposed, when he would get called out on his serial fraud, he would sick police and lawyers on journalists.
00:05:42.000People are fraudulent, they're plagiarists.
00:05:43.000We saw this with the Harvard president, Claudine Gay, I think it was.
00:05:48.000And they're totally doing these character assassinations of him because Kaufness, so he was an academic.
00:05:53.000He was driven out because he wrote controversial stuff about racial differences, about IQ stuff, kind of similar to what Steve Saylor writes about.
00:06:38.000By the way, he was very happy to be the darling of the media when things were good, when they were lauding him, when they were propping him up into this position.
00:07:12.000He tried to pull a Jussie Smollett style fake hate crime book where he said people were sending cut off pigs' heads from a butcher shop to his doorstop.0.96
00:07:21.000He said a white person menaced him with a knife.0.97
00:07:26.000And when The Guardian, a left wing newspaper in Britain, investigated this and found no evidence for it, they contacted him and he replied, Honestly, I thought you'd just believe me.
00:07:48.000And if people had demanded censorship of the American press over this, if they'd said any of the people who said Jussie Smollett's hate crime was fake, that those people should be denounced as racist, that they're bad people for doing that, that would be insane.
00:08:03.000And we have to push back on it here because we were talking about this today.
00:08:07.000This links so much with the Lindsey Clancy case.
00:08:10.000And both of these cases feel like a culmination of having left wing assumptions about the world.
00:08:19.000That it elevates people who are who pour victimhood on themselves and they use it to hurt other people, even especially when they're hurting other people.
00:08:31.000That Lindsey Clancy is somehow more worthy of money and love and respect because she did the most atrocious thing possible, which is kill your own children.0.99
00:08:46.000He was a serial hoaxer, a con artist, and he presumably took his own life, okay, when that fraud was exposed.
00:08:53.000If that ends up being true, that is suicide, it's either the result of severe mental illness, and yeah, that deserves help and compassion and all those things and treatment.0.88
00:09:03.000But it's also possibly the ultimate act of cowardice in a long list of cowardly acts by this man.
00:09:12.000So now he, because he does this, it's in a weird, perverse way, almost like a final act of control over a situation that had become uncontrollable for him, where he now gets to have ultimate victim status because.
00:09:26.000He was so put upon that he took his own life.
00:09:28.000And that should not be celebrated or lauded or lifted up as somehow an ideal or a good thing.
00:09:35.000The moral inversion that is happening on so many of these cases is bonkers.
00:09:41.000And it is a really troubling sign that we're falling victim to it.
00:09:48.000So there is a crazy story about the big polling misses that we've seen in some of these cases.
00:10:07.000Polling firm showing Karen Bass and Francesca Hong in lead admits fake polls.
00:10:12.000Short term social media experiment is what they're calling it.
00:10:17.000So basically, a fake polling firm projecting Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass and Wisconsin Democrat Socialist gubernatorial candidate Francesca Hong with leads over their opponent admits these were fake polls as part of a short term social media experiment.
00:10:31.000In a statement posted to the website for Median Strategies, the fake polling firm explained it has concluded its polling project and will not publish additional polls.
00:10:40.000It also says all previously published polling releases have been withdrawn and should not be cited or treated as genuine polling.
00:10:47.000It was part of a short term experiment examining how purported polling information could enter and spread through the political information ecosystem without independent verification.
00:10:58.000And you mentioned the Los Angeles one, but the even more monumental one is they put out a poll.
00:11:03.000That showed the Democrat Socialist Francesca Hong way out in front in that governor's primary.
00:11:09.000And that had consequences because we were discussing this with Tyler to disaffect the race.
00:11:14.000Because it looked like Hong, if she won that primary, would have been at a pretty big disadvantage compared to any other Democrat in the governor's race and might help us in all the other races in that state.
00:11:24.000And I'll be frank, I think a lot of Republicans, we went really wild making fun of Hong and getting really committed to her and assuming she was the nominee because her rivals had dropped out and she was way ahead in these polls.
00:11:39.000And ah, we wish she was running in the actual race.1.00
00:11:42.000I mean, yeah, I do think that it probably doesn't bode well for Tom Tiffany going up against somebody that's been painted as a moderate who's not a moderate.
00:12:19.000This almost feels like it should be illegal, like it's some form of fraud on the public, especially when you have prediction markets as a factor that people react to and stuff.
00:12:29.000It's very interesting because you could imagine someone dresses up a whole fake polling firm and they do a fraudulent poll just to shift one of those prediction markets and you can cash in on a fake poll like that.
00:12:39.000There's so much they could be sued for doing this.
00:12:42.000And yeah, it was a short term social media experiment, as we said, to examine how purported polling information could enter and spread through the political information ecosystem.
00:12:59.000So this ended up getting injected into the veins of the political media ecosystem.
00:13:05.000And then we actually have a real race going on today in Florida that a lot of people are watching, sort of related, because in that race, Byron Donalds is up big over James Fishback and some others.
00:13:24.000And Byron's been a guest on the show multiple times, but it's been an interesting race to observe from afar because James Fishback has used very unorthodox strategies in order to sort of attack Byron Donald.
00:13:38.000He's called him some aggressive names.
00:13:41.000I don't think it would be, I don't even think he would necessarily disagree to say he is the first, I don't know how else to put it, a Gruyper political candidate.
00:13:49.000He's very much leaned into that political brand.
00:13:51.000If you check his list of endorsements, it's a.
00:13:54.000The Nick Fuentes, Sneeko, Andrew Tate, Hodge Twins, Kerry Pregene Baller.
00:14:55.000Gen Z, I've talked to some of our students.
00:14:57.000They're following this very closely, I will tell you.0.97
00:15:00.000But Byron Donalds is running away with it, it seems.
00:15:04.000So, really, the intrigue here is can an upstart, as you said, like sort of a Groyper gubernatorial candidate, who, by the way, had been on this show before early on, James Fishback came on this show because he was part of a debate society that was trying to, it was called Incubate Debate.
00:15:23.000And then the next thing I know, he was involved in investing.
00:15:27.000And then he was like, I saw him on like Stu Varney's show.
00:15:30.000And then he was running for governor all within the history.
00:15:32.000He's done a lot of dramatic things, and he gets that what's interesting about other people.
00:15:40.000He did a whole stunt where he said he wasn't going to pay his lawyer because his lawyer lost.
00:15:44.000And so he says, you only should pay your lawyer when you win.
00:15:48.000I believe that he's been ordered by a court to pay his lawyer.
00:15:52.000So there's various, I'll be blunt, scam adjacent stuff that he has done.
00:15:57.000And yet he has a certain political talent where he got a lot of attention because he'll come out and he'll say, there's tons of racism against young white men and we should fight against that.
00:16:06.000So it's one of those things where he'll say stuff that.
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00:19:21.000What we're seeing a lot of conservative men talking about postpartum depression, the postpartum psychosis, as if it's like a made up thing that women don't experience this.
00:19:31.000Like, that's not helpful to the conversation.
00:19:34.000What Lindsay did is horrific, and she should spend the rest of her life locked up for killing her three children.0.66
00:19:41.000They are the real victims in this situation.
00:19:44.000But I don't understand why we have all this going on.
00:19:47.000We still haven't passed the Save America Act.
00:20:07.000Having that conversation as men, sorry, can turn off women because you haven't had postpartum depression or experienced this.
00:20:15.000And I think every conservative man I know would agree with me that men receiving female hormones, even men who think that they're women, is a really bad idea.0.65
00:20:25.000And we've been talking about that in our national conversation for years now, especially when you look at trans violence.0.63
00:20:32.000Like it's a really bad idea to inject female hormones into a man just because a man feels like he's a woman.0.89
00:20:38.000So, we know these hormones are powerful.
00:20:44.000So, obviously, postpartum depression is a thing.
00:20:47.000It doesn't mean that everybody who says they have postpartum depression has it.
00:20:50.000I mean, and I don't think it's an excuse for behavior, but I definitely don't prescribe conservative men deciding let's pick a fight with women on X, on TikTok right now and try to make them feel bad if they've had postpartum depression.
00:21:06.000Like, I just, it's not productive and it's not keeping the main victims of victims.
00:21:10.000And I certainly am not on the school of thought that it's not.
00:21:13.000Real, but it's like you know, a lot of women have postpartum depression apparently, and they don't murder their kids, exactly right.
00:21:21.000So, I think that's where it's getting lost.
00:21:23.000It's kind of like for a male brain, we're just like, Yeah, but one does not justify the other.0.65
00:21:27.000So, what are we even talking about here?
00:21:28.000It feels like we should just be able to divorce and come in and say, Whatever this woman did, it shouldn't just fall under the umbrella of, Oh, well, this is just what can happen with postpartum depression, right?
00:21:39.000We could say that is a natural thing in the same way that someone who does a school shooting might.
00:21:44.000Have depression clinically, but we don't say, like, well, depression made him do it.
00:22:09.000I mean, I think what we're seeing, and I think the reason why so many of my male friends on X are kind of Going headfirst into this is, you know, it's a conversation I have with my husband, right?
00:22:18.000Where you've had 20 plus years of third wave feminism telling men that they are evil and bad just for being men.
00:22:27.000And what we're seeing on TikTok with these liberal feminist women who are raising money for Lindsay, they're literally putting out videos saying, oh, it has to be the husband.
00:22:46.000Think I would have ever prescribed that.
00:22:47.000And I think there's something to be looked into on that.
00:22:50.000But just saying, like, we somehow these liberal feminist women are now saying that, like, they can envision men strangling children and doing terrible things, but they can't envision women doing it.0.79
00:23:14.000But yet we have women on TikTok who can't even trust her.0.96
00:23:18.000And when she admitted, she killed her three children.
00:23:21.000And so I think you have both sides of this coming at this completely wrong.
00:23:25.000You have the liberal feminists, and then you have the right men who just, I guess, want to pick a fight with every woman in America.
00:23:32.000Well, I think we're just reacting to like, I mean, maybe it's just this is like the perfect sort of dividing kind of issue because I'm looking at it and I'm going, like, what the heck is happening out there?
00:25:16.000And I think you could use this opportunity to talk about postpartum depression, postpartum psychosis, the probably overprescriptions of SSRIs.
00:25:25.000This woman was on three SSRIs, which is kind of a problem, especially when we look at Gen Z women and the conversations I'm having with them on campuses and the numbing of American women in general who are just, oh, you feel bad about your life.0.80
00:25:40.000Here, go on this SSRI that's totally going to change how your brain functions.0.94
00:25:44.000There's a good conversation that can come out of this.
00:25:49.000Picking the fight with women, I think you absolutely need to call out this insanity on the left of these women who can't trust women who've admitted they've killed their children and somehow think it's all evil men.0.66
00:26:18.000And Daisy and our team is more up on the Instagram of it all.
00:26:21.000And she was trying to explain some of the stuff she was seeing.
00:26:23.000And she was like, Well, apparently he was wearing different shoes at the CVS and he couldn't remember where, you know, and apparently she couldn't talk.
00:26:32.000But yet she told him that the kids were downstairs or something like that.
00:26:36.000So there's these gaps in knowledge, right?
00:26:39.000And so they fill in the gaps with the meme of like the Always Sunny in Philadelphia meme with the lines like connecting all of the stuff and filling it in with the most like extravagant.0.94
00:26:49.000Connective tissue that now Patrick has to have been, Clancy has to have been guilty of doing this, and that he's a scumbag because he got married, you know, I guess around a year after or something.0.93
00:26:59.000You know, that just because he got married a year after doesn't suggest that he had anything to do with killing his children.0.96
00:27:06.000So I like, I just want to see us get back to a sense of let the facts be the facts.
00:27:15.000And the internet is really starting to freak me out because, you know, the.
00:28:02.000We've even, you know, not only just pre born children, but either born children are valued less than a full grown adult.
00:28:10.000And I think, absolutely, I mean, you look at this, the entire left's argument for the wantedness, you know, so I often hear on campuses of, well, we want every child to be a wanted child, and that will solve, you know, all of this child abuse, it'll solve child murder.
00:28:26.000This, these were three wanted children by all accounts and who are still wanted.
00:28:30.000So, no, just because a child is wanted doesn't mean terrible things won't happen to them.
00:28:36.000And I think that it's insane when you hear leftists try to justify the violence of abortion simply because they want every child to be a wanted child.
00:28:44.000So I absolutely think there's a tie into abortion.
00:28:48.000There's a tie into abortion in so many of our issues because we've just stopped seeing other human beings as valuable and worthy of life.
00:28:56.000But I think we have to be careful here when we're having that.
00:28:59.000That was my point in my post yesterday of like, I was like, hello, I think I'm a pretty sane person.
00:29:03.000And I wasn't even clued into the story.
00:31:38.000It's very funny because Margaret Sanger did speak to the KKK, I believe.
00:31:41.000Yeah, Margaret Sanger literally spoke to the women's auxiliary of the KKK.
00:31:45.000The reason why we have legal abortion in their country today was because of racist eugenicists who believe people of low breeds and stocks should not have the right to reproduce.
00:31:55.000So, the whole abortion industry is founded in racism and rooted in racism.
00:32:00.000That's what the owner of Wideaho Roasters failed to make that point.
00:32:32.000This is a fellowship we launched this year in honor of Charlie to motivate young pro life students to get involved in politics.
00:32:39.000So, my 16 year old son, Bear, took this on and he is trying to recruit door knockers in Idaho so we can go door to door arguing against Prop 1, which this coffee shop owner supports, which would make abortion legal up until the moment of birth in the Idaho Constitution.
00:34:05.000And then, as soon as we all sat down, he came barreling out of his office yelling at us.
00:34:10.000And even when we got up to leave, he turned up the music so loud, we had to go outside to figure out where we were going to meet and we've to finish our meeting.
00:34:19.000But it was, you know, I even offered at one point, like, can we just finish this meeting?
00:34:37.000I mean, we know they're liberal, but we all kind of.
00:34:40.000Thought that you know, everyone's pretty casual here in Idaho, like, even if you disagree politically, you can get along, that we would at least be tolerated.
00:34:48.000But then to find out he thought that we were like the KKK, um, it was pretty shocking.
00:34:54.000It just goes to show, you know, they say all welcome, they don't really mean all, it's a performative stuff, and that's sad to see because I, Charlie mentioned this.
00:35:03.000Charlie was also a believer, like, you don't want everything in your life to be endlessly through the lens of politics, even though he's a guy who thought about politics all the time, he wanted to be able to.
00:35:15.000Shop at somewhere without being a good person.
00:35:18.000Without, you know, oh, we need to do an inventory of what this person's beliefs are.
00:35:42.000I think it's interesting, though, when you look at Colorado, they have a human rights commission that went to their state Supreme Court to try to force a Christian cake baker to bake a gay wedding cake.0.79
00:35:54.000A cake over there and see if they'll make me a pro life.1.00
00:35:56.000Yeah, or just get all your like black pro lifers there and have another meeting and see if he's willing to try and kick them out too and call them like the KKK.0.97
00:36:04.000Cause we, like, there's some of the best pro lifers are like, you know, from the black church and they're passionate about this because their community has been hit hardest by this.0.58
00:36:13.000And our stands for life regional coordinator in Idaho is black.1.00
00:36:16.000So next time she's at my house, I'm gonna force her to go in.1.00
00:36:42.000It takes an hour and 10 minutes to get to a pregnancy crisis center.
00:36:46.000So one of the things we were meeting about last night was how can we provide diapers and formula to poor families right here in Teton Valley?
00:36:53.000He wouldn't even let us get to that point in the conversation.
00:36:58.000Because he's about abortion and abortion in all nine months of pregnancy and so tolerant that he wouldn't even let pro lifers assemble at his coffee house.
00:37:07.000So, what can people do to get behind you right now, Kristen?0.54
00:37:11.000Like, this is people are going to want to support you and support these local chapters, like, and the work you're doing that's so great across the country.
00:37:22.000If you're in Idaho, if you're in Missouri, go to studentslifeaction.orgslash deployments.
00:37:28.000Sign up to door knock with me, my kids, and all of our Students for Life chapter leaders in key election states, especially about referendum states.
00:37:37.000You can also go to studentsforlife.org.
00:37:38.000We are honored to serve more than 1,700 chapters across the country.
00:37:42.000And we're so lucky to partner with so many amazing Turning Point and Club America groups.
00:37:47.000So you can go to studentsforlife.org, find out about our groups, join our prayer team, and even become a supporter of Students for Life because this isn't certainly going to stop us.
00:37:56.000I was checking on my son last night because he's never experienced this before and he is on board, ready to go.
00:38:02.000And so I think the good thing that Going to come out of this is my four children, the adults that gathered with us, they now know they've got to stand up and fight.
00:38:10.000Even our sleepy little town in Idaho, we have to stand up against the abortion industry and the radical leftists who are trying to destroy our country.
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00:40:51.000So, her concerns, she's not being like one of these insane women that are, you know, donating money to the GoFundMe or whatever for Lindsey Clancy, but she does think the way that we're talking about it is unhelpful politically, right?0.99
00:41:22.000A crazy woman deliberately strangled and murdered all her children one by one after sending her husband away so she could get away with it.0.88
00:41:32.000Can you imagine the backlash against other psychopaths?1.00
00:41:40.000I'm not having a national conversation about postpartum depression or hormones or whatever because some freaking evil demonic psychopath strangled her kids.1.00
00:41:57.000She's unrepentant, by the way, which is why we're even having this trial.1.00
00:42:01.000She doesn't want to deal with the consequences of what she did.
00:42:04.000And when people, by the way, are claiming they're too insane to know that murder is wrong, what they're actually saying is they're too insane to be allowed to continue living in any sort of society, whether it's in prison or without.
00:42:18.000Like this idea that insanity is somehow like a mitigating thing.
00:42:22.000No, if you're too insane to know it's wrong to strangle each of your children one by one, You don't get to live anymore.
00:42:28.000So, like, I just have zero patience whatsoever for people who are like, well, let's talk about this and let's talk about that.0.99
00:42:35.000No, let's talk about what we need to do to the psychopath who murdered her own kids.
00:43:25.000The whole thing there, what stands out to me about that and so many of these other clips is not just that the stuff she's saying is nuts, but she has this whole affect.
00:43:35.000It's like she's playing a TV character.
00:43:37.000Like she's trying to deliver a speech or a line that someone would give in a TV show.
00:43:47.000Yeah, it's like they're watching, yeah, true crime brain, TV brain.
00:43:50.000It's like they've watched too many of these shows and then now it's pouring back and shaping their own personality more than we should allow fictitious or produced works to shape our real personalities.
00:45:23.000Yeah, by the way, the funniest part of that last clip was when she says, I was in therapy.
00:45:28.000Yeah, you don't say, you don't say, you don't say.
00:45:33.000There is a totally bizarre midwit obsession and affectation where, and it was turbocharged by COVID, where a bunch of people who are not particularly that bright have decided that only they have certain secret knowledge about how things have transpired.
00:45:52.000And then they are now overlaying that on literally Everything they see.
00:45:58.000If you had a report come out and say, you know, that the sun is going to rise in the morning, you would have scores of thousands of people on TikTok being like, actually, I have looked into it.
00:46:10.000And I was talking to Grok, and all of the evidence points to the sun not rising tomorrow.
00:46:16.000And it's something has happened collectively to the American brain where it has been totally broken.
00:46:40.000I see it as a total spiritual breakdown of our nation where you can't even tell basic things like boys from girls or murderers from innocent people.
00:46:48.000In this Clancy trial, literally no one in the trial is saying anyone but Lindsey Clancy did it.
00:47:01.000Everyone with any stake in this is saying she did it.
00:47:04.000They're just trying to say it's not really her fault because reasons.1.00
00:47:07.000And yet, you have half the internet like a bunch of retards going out and pretending that somehow only they know the true secret that literally no one else, even those with all incentives to say otherwise, haven't yet discovered.1.00
00:47:18.000It's one of the most enraging and mind boggling things I think I've ever seen.1.00
00:47:22.000Well, and we're seeing it with the Jason Arde situation in the UK as well, where you have a serial plagiarist, a hoaxer, a con artist who gets called out on the fraud, and yet there's thousands of people marching in London attacking the media for a lynching of some sort, a media lynching of this con artist.
00:47:49.000And I think Blake's point is actually well made this like true crime brain, you know, where you root for the anti hero.
00:47:58.000You root for the person they tell you to be sympathetic for, even when all the facts of the situation should tell you that they're the bad guy.
00:48:30.000Sean, so the more and more that I look at the landscape for the Democrats in 2028, you and I have talked on this show much about JD, Marco, all that stuff.
00:48:39.000But on the other side of the aisle, you've got John Ossoff, who's running for reelection for Senate, but he seems to be posturing himself.
00:50:59.000One thing I learned when I worked on the Hill in the Senate, gosh, 20 years ago, is that when every senator gets up in the morning and looks into the mirror, he sees a president looking back at him.
00:51:09.000So it's an affliction that they're all saddled with.
00:51:14.000I will say I'm amused by his like Timu vanilla Obama tone.
00:51:18.000Like he's trying so hard to sound like Obama.
00:51:22.000Everything is a list of three, you've got the dramatic pauses.
00:51:27.000Like my eyes almost rolled out of my head off camera while you were playing that clip.
00:51:32.000But yeah, he's clearly making a play for it.
00:51:35.000The Democrat bench right now is so shallow.0.92
00:51:38.000The person at the top of the polls for 2028 is Kamala Harris.
00:51:43.000So you see a lot of these guys in the second or third tier.
00:52:17.000That's so interesting you say that because it does feel like you might have three competing strands within the Democrats.
00:52:24.000One, the Kamala Harris redux, you might call the DEI hangover of.
00:52:29.000Trump bad, white men bad, pretend it's still 2020, kind of just run a demographic candidate designed by a committee.
00:52:36.000And we know how that went with Kamala.
00:52:38.000Another is it reflects the intense radicalism that young Democrats have, that they're getting absolutely overheated by Trump.
00:52:46.000And so that would be they'd get a DSA candidate of some kind that could be AOC, could be someone else, but someone just really running on being very radical.
00:52:54.000And then I think Asaf, Kelly, they slot into what you might call the most pragmatic part of the party, which says, guys, Trump doesn't have that high of an approval.
00:53:05.000How about we just run a nice, not senile white guy?
00:54:09.000Untoward relationship with the president of the United States.
00:54:11.000She's one of his aides that travels with him, yes, and there's a lot of trust there, but that was completely below the belt, pun intended, I suppose.
00:54:20.000I just thought it was so unbecoming to allege this of somebody that really does not deserve that kind of insinuation.
00:54:26.000Yeah, I mean, she's a woman, by the way, who's alive today because Trump signed the right to try legislation into law that allowed her to get a trial to cure her bone cancer.
00:54:37.000So, yeah, turns out she's a big fan of Trump because he did things that allowed her to still be alive.
00:54:42.000And the thing about Asaf is, and it tells you his character, he probably had no idea what he was talking about.
00:54:48.000These guys don't write their speeches, they're professional line readers.
00:54:51.000So he goes up there and it's on the prompter and he reads it with all, you know, the gravity and the low baritone of Obama with the, you know, perfect dramatic pauses and everything.
00:56:54.000The teenager that was working the booth was such a and I turned around and I said, I don't like that you guys are supporting that piece of All right, so joining us now is the chapter of that school that you just saw that crazy lady doing a video on Sophia Hunt, chapter president, Westfield High School in Indiana.
00:57:20.000And you can find her on Instagram at SophiaLily.Hunt.
00:57:27.000I'm so sorry, first of all, that you had to go through this.
00:57:31.000It just reminds me of when Charlie used to say, like, our chapter.
00:57:34.000Leaders and our students are the tip of the spear.
00:57:36.000They're on the front lines, and you guys are doing such great work out there.
00:57:40.000You were just taking part in it, sounds like a back to school kind of gathering.
00:57:45.000Tell us, give us the context of what happened here.
00:57:48.000So, I was at my local back to school event.
00:57:50.000We call it Rock the Block in Westfield, and it's where many of the Westfield organizations, businesses, and different high school and even middle school clubs get to display their work, what they're doing within their communities.
00:58:01.000And we had the most amazing opportunity to be able to have a booth at this event.
00:58:06.000Club America, and I was with my attorney point secretary and treasurer.
00:58:10.000We were handing out the cutest red, white, and blue bracelets, which I have right here.
00:58:15.000They did not have any political message on them, they were just bought in bulk from Amazon.
00:58:20.000A little boy came up to our table trying to grab a bracelet.
00:58:23.000We pushed our basket closer to them, and a mom came and dragged him away.
00:58:30.000I looked at the mother and very calmly, I said, Hey, are you okay?
00:59:56.000Has her pronouns on there, of course.0.99
00:59:59.000So this is like, there just needs, you know, everybody getting the ability to publish their unfettered, unedited thoughts is just turning out to be a really.
01:01:31.000No, she's attacking a child, a poor little child.
01:01:34.000Why are you going after a literal child?0.53
01:01:37.000Yes, I am going after a child who is the president of Turning Point and likes to post racist, homophobic, transphobic things on the internet.0.95
01:02:23.000Secondly, why do women, and maybe Sophia, you know the answer to this, why are they always doing TikToks and Instagram videos doing their stinking makeup?0.83
01:02:32.000I don't understand the phenomenon and it just bothers me.0.81
01:02:57.000So this is just a literal grown woman who has a child who is taking to the internet as a content creator to smear you, slander you, and then she actually ends up accusing you of taking pictures in a bathroom or something?1.00
01:04:23.000So then she starts accusing you of this because some dude goes into a restroom a year ago and you were right to be upset about that.
01:04:31.000And yet again, you have a grown woman who thinks she's some TikTok star harassing a Turning Point student who's 17 years old for tabling and handing out free bracelets to little kids who are asking.
01:04:44.000Like that's what you're dealing with here.
01:04:48.000I just have so many problems with this.
01:05:35.000I love that you're leading and you're strong through this and that these like crazy, unhinged adults who should know better, who should be behaving with some dignity and some self respect, but just can't help themselves because they're narcissists who think they're content creators and TikTok stars are harassing minors.
01:05:54.000And I hope your parents have your back.
01:05:57.000I hope your chapter has your back and they're.
01:06:00.000Defending you and supporting you in this because we have your back 100%.
01:06:11.000Well, a lot of people were really fired up by that little bit we did on the fake poll where they're just pointing out this just sounds like it's a big prep for voter suppression stuff.
01:06:21.000For they could do some sort of election fraud stuff.
01:06:25.000They could do, obviously, the just outright fraud angle you know, you goose someone's numbers and then you trade on the markets and cash in.
01:06:33.000So a lot of them thought, like, There should be fraud in this.
01:06:35.000Tons of emails about the Clancy case, of course.
01:06:37.000Some people saying, Why are you guys talking about this?0.99
01:06:39.000Of course, the left is nuts on this, but a lot of them saying this shows a lot of women are nuts.0.99
01:06:44.000A lot of people are marinating in poison.1.00
01:06:47.000We have a great young lady, Sophia Hunt, with us.
01:06:52.000She's the chapter president, Westfield High School in Indiana.
01:06:55.000Follow her, support her online at SophiaLilly.Hunt.
01:06:59.000Okay, Sophia, you are not like these women supporting Lindsey Clancy.
01:07:08.000There's such an inversion because historically, We had pretty wise elders in America.0.96
01:07:13.000And so you'd think a woman of maybe a grandmother's age would be someone you could look to reliably for pretty good values and wisdom.0.75
01:07:22.000And we're finally getting to the point where, kind of, the last generation where the overwhelming majority of people were in pretty good shape in America is unfortunately aging out.
01:07:31.000So now we have these ladies, and where you have extremely unwise grown adults picking fights on TikTok with far wiser young ladies like yourself who give us a lot of hope because.0.99
01:07:43.000We're definitely going to need ladies like you to save America.1.00
01:08:07.000How did you get involved, and what did Charlie mean to you, and how did he inspire you?
01:08:11.000I got involved first with Turning Point.
01:08:14.000Friend who was involved in Turning Point back in 2024 when I competed at Miss Indiana Teen USA, and a friend prompted me to visit the Texas Youth Summit.
01:08:22.000And from that summit is where you guys had an amazing field rep who got me connected with Turning Point, and I'm forever grateful for it.
01:08:29.000I have absolutely loved the Republican Party, Trump, and just anything that had to do with pro life and just God first movements ever since the age of six.
01:08:39.000I mean, my mom and my dad taught me that.
01:08:42.000That was the center of what they really taught me.
01:08:45.000Um, so that's a big part of why I joined Turning Point is because your guys's first priority is God, family, and um, country.
01:08:52.000And then Charlie, he was just such a light.
01:08:55.000He was actually one of the main reasons I joined Turning Point as well from watching his videos after my friend had showed them to me many years ago.
01:09:03.000And just every opportunity I had to see him speak and even had the opportunity to have breakfast with him, he just he he changes my mind completely on everything that I do.
01:09:15.000I mean, he's the reason I lead everything that I do.
01:09:17.000Biblical context and to always lead my life with God.
01:09:20.000So, Charlie is truly inspiring, and so is Erica.
01:09:26.000And, you know, I got to work with him for eight years, and Blake was always on the show, and we were building this show with him.
01:09:33.000And it means a lot to us to hear your stories from students all across the country.
01:09:38.000So, let's talk about the state of women right now.0.59
01:09:43.000Like, when you talk, when you think about your friends, maybe they're part of the club, maybe they're not, maybe they're conservative, maybe they're progressive.0.95
01:10:33.000Are you now the women in general, though?
01:10:37.000I mean, I hear a lot from young people that dating is hard, that the expectations from the two sexes are like completely out of alignment, that social media complicates everything.
01:10:48.000Are you seeing that kind of the gender war aspect between men and women?
01:10:54.000I mean, I think that social media does take a big toll within relationships, and especially with the worldly values that social media is teaching people and it is bringing people farther away from God, but that can have a toll.
01:11:08.000But I also think the movement of Like Turning Point USA and this movement has really caused so many people to also shift back to the right, shift back to God centered relationships.
01:11:18.000So I can't say it's going downhill because Turning Point's impact is honestly bigger than people think, no matter if it's only for right wingers, but it's also, I think, with people on the left, they're coming to God as well.
01:11:27.000And I think Turning Point USA has a big part of that.
01:11:38.000You know, we're seeing this, what I call like the moral inversion.
01:11:42.000Where, you know, it kind of reminds me of the Bible verse, like, Woe unto you who calls good evil and evil good.
01:11:49.000And we're seeing that happen in a lot of different instances.
01:11:52.000Are you concerned about that when you look across your friend group or your school?
01:11:56.000And maybe your school is just like doing great.0.98
01:11:58.000And it doesn't sound like maybe a mixed bag, but are you worried about that?
01:12:03.000Are you because the social media brain, meme brain, is something because young people are constantly consuming social media and it's so much of it is meme culture now.
01:12:12.000So I'm just, Where are the values coming from?
01:12:15.000I'm not worried about myself, although I sometimes do worry for others because so many people don't have the circle that I had the opportunity to grow up with and that I had the opportunity to be rounded by.
01:12:25.000And social media does take a large toll in how people are acting, how people are creating their own moral compass.
01:12:31.000So it can be concerning, but I also do believe that God is, there's been a huge revival and God is truly coming back into our schools.
01:12:38.000I mean, it's now required for the Ten Commandments to be in schools.
01:12:41.000So I don't have much concern because I know God has a way and He will make things happen.
01:13:20.000Charlie played such a huge role in forming a whole generation's worldview and the way that they saw this country, the way they see their faith and their role in it, and be a part of something bigger and to contribute and be part of the solution.