00:00:39.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:48.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:57.000So I want to talk about this Georgia grand jury report that came out today.
00:02:01.000Apparently, that there was a recommendation to indict Lady Graham and Senator David Perdue.
00:02:07.000Walk us through this, Cash, and did Big Fanny Willis decide not to do that.
00:02:11.000Well, hey, it's great to be back with you, and I'm glad you're having this Indian American on instead of Nikki Haley.
00:02:17.000So look, when it comes to the grand jury indictments in Georgia, I don't know that they're done.
00:02:21.000They say it's a quote-unquote report that they wanted to do something and they haven't yet done it.
00:02:27.000So with these people, remember, this is the same district attorney who illegally leaked the indictment of Donald Trump six hours before its publication and lied to the world about how that could have possibly happened.
00:02:40.000And of course, there's no one there to police her own criminal conduct.
00:02:43.000Grand jury information of any kind released without a judicial order is a felony in the state of Georgia and in the federal courts.
00:02:51.000So it's not a surprise that they wanted to target anyone in Trump's universe and they say they came up short or just didn't return an indictment.
00:03:00.000But I don't know that they're done with this investigation and presenting cases to the grand jury.
00:03:05.000Yeah, I mean, and Cash, you and I have been talking for quite some time.
00:03:08.000No local, there's not a single local DA in the country that's a Republican who has the courage, the fortitude, or the spine to do what Big Fanny is doing.
00:03:16.000Not a single Republican AG that is doing any of this.
00:03:20.000I mean, to name, you know, they have Lindsey.
00:03:23.000I am not a fan of Lindsey Graham, but this is outrageous, right?
00:04:21.000Look, Charlie, you and I have led the charge for one single Republican district attorney or one single Republican state attorney general to lead that charge.
00:04:29.000We talked about it for, what, over a year now, maybe two.
00:04:32.000You had a beautiful article in the Federalist.
00:04:34.000Donald Trump was the one who helped push that messaging out, calling out the district attorneys and state attorney generals that you and I have for so long.
00:04:55.000Are you telling me in the state of Arkansas where we got a state AG who's a Republican, he couldn't find a crime with Hunter Biden and prostitutes and money laundering and fraud?
00:05:04.000What about every other state he touched?
00:05:06.000Florida, pick other ones, not Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama.
00:05:12.000This guy was all over the country and he used the national travel system to get from coast to coast.
00:05:19.000Every one of those state AGs could pop him, every single one of them, and not a single one is doing that.
00:05:24.000And if we wanted justice from this DOJ, which we know is never going to happen, the only place we're going to get it is at the state and district attorney level.
00:05:32.000But they're, look, you've said it before, and so have I.
00:05:35.000They are outgunning us every damn day when it comes to the weaponization of justice.
00:05:40.000And we, who actually have the law on our side, are for whatever reason, too, too big of a cowards to push it forward.
00:05:47.000And I, and I really just don't have any information or examples as to why that is.
00:06:09.000And what this is, just like with Steve Bannon, is another example of the two-tier system of justice.
00:06:15.000They convicted these individuals for a baseless contempt referral from a majority in Congress that ran the unlawful January 6th committee hearings into President Donald Trump.
00:06:27.000And of course, this weaponized DOJ with Garland is going to do that.
00:06:30.000Where is the congressional majority for Republicans standing up against these types of illegal acts by DOJ?
00:06:38.000More so, where is the Republican majority in Congress when it comes to indicting Garland and Ray for the same contempt matters they say Peter Navarro-B. Bannon did?
00:06:51.000Only difference is Ray and Garland actually violated congressional subpoenas that were validly issued.
00:06:58.000And every single day they violate one is another felony and they're getting a free hall pass.
00:07:03.000This is a two-tier system of justice and Republicans.
00:07:06.000And now look, these are a lot of my friends on Capitol Hill are sitting idly by and doing nothing except writing more letters and Mother Mayhe have used instead of demanding the document production so we prevent another election from being rigged and instead of demanding an equal system of justice so guys like Navarro and Bannon aren't unjustly, unlawfully, and unconstitutionally prosecuted as political targets.
00:07:30.000This will never stop until we get a course of Republicans in Congress to stand up and defund parts of the DOJ and FBI and get Garland and Ray in line.
00:07:41.000That's the only thing they'll listen to is money.
00:07:43.000It's the only power that we have over them and we are not using it.
00:07:47.000Yeah, so Cash, I mean, you've been saying that for quite some time.
00:07:49.0009.30, September 30th, big funding deadline.
00:07:52.000Why are Republicans unwilling to defund at least the fringe, like fence off the funding or wall down the funding, as you say?
00:08:02.000They say, well, it could lose us the next election.
00:08:06.000It's always a political argument, Charlie, isn't it?
00:08:08.000It's, oh, well, you know, we're in power now, but we don't really want to lose the next time.
00:08:12.000Well, the reason you lost in the past and the reason you're afraid to act now is because these people in Congress, all they care about is their names and the headlines.
00:08:21.000and getting a good news story out so they can take it back to their constituency and say, look how great I am.
00:08:26.000No, the problem is you guys aren't fearless enough when it comes to standing up for what Donald Trump fought for in his administration.
00:08:34.000How the reason most of them are in Congress is because he backed their play and got them reelected.
00:08:40.000And now they're worried about what, the next reelection cycle?
00:08:43.000Maybe if they showed up and did their job and fenced off the money from Chris Ray's private jet so that me and you as taxpayers don't have to fund his government-funded G5 so he can go on vacation every weekend.
00:08:55.000Maybe if they took Merrick Garland's new fleet of cars so he doesn't gallivant around the country in up armored escalate.
00:09:02.000Maybe if they started doing those things, their constituents would be like, hey, not only are we going to give you guys more money, we're going to send you back to Congress with an overwhelming record to do more.
00:09:10.000I don't know why a single one of them won't take that mandate on.
00:09:14.000I mean, it would literally take one person to do it.
00:09:19.000I'm also waiting for the one person to get it right and go impeach Garland and Ray rather than the political piñata that is Biden.
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00:10:42.000Other story I want to hit here is the ADL.
00:10:45.000Cash, the ADL has been smearing people for quite some time.
00:10:48.000Your reaction to the recent emphasis and focus on ADL.
00:10:52.000Well, I guess it's not surprising to you or I that those guys have been coming after people who have championed America First Values for such a long time.
00:11:02.000And now I think it's ironic that people who call themselves the ADL are telling us what is and isn't defamation and who to who not to target based on politics.
00:11:14.000I think people have now seen their hypocrisy, just like they have with the ACLU and other organizations, the Southern Poverty Law Center and everybody else that's funded by George Soros, that these types of people have been in bed with the corrupt government gangsters I talk about in my book and the mainstream media to do one thing, to take out Donald Trump, just like these prosecutors with baseless accusations and lies and take out everyone around him.
00:11:38.000And I think the cacophony is growing so loud with this chorus, this group of criminals that most of Americans who prior to today might not have voted for Donald Trump are now saying, wait a second, these guys have been lying to us for years and I don't want them in power anymore.
00:11:56.000So hopefully that's the trend going forward.
00:12:01.000The ADL has done such damage to this country.
00:12:04.000So I also want to touch on this other story here, Cash, and again, remind people to check out his book, Government Gangsters.
00:12:12.000Lindsey Graham, Michael Flynn, and others in this kind of Georgia grand jury report.
00:12:20.000But the buried lead of all this is the 14th Amendment.
00:12:23.000What is your reaction to these extra-constitutional attempts to try to kick Donald Trump off the ballot before any conviction, before any of it, just because they want it to be so?
00:12:34.000I mean, as a former federal prosecutor, national security guy, I think it's laughable, but it's not surprising.
00:12:40.000The 14th Amendment, it is no bearing on these arguments.
00:12:44.000There is no state secretary of state or state attorney general that can preclude a United States citizen from running for presidency based on the 14th Amendment.
00:12:53.000The power to do that vests in the federal government, and they cannot use it politically.
00:12:58.000That's what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Bill of Rights.
00:13:02.000Look, to me, this is no different than when the government gangsters like Rod Rosenstein and Andy McCabe got together and said, oh, we're going to use the 25th Amendment, and you can wiretap me, and I'll go into the Oval Office and record Trump, and then we'll tell everyone he's unfit for office.
00:13:16.000That was never applicable under the law because the 25th Amendment only came into play for the founding fathers if there was a mental incapacity, like he slipped into a coma or had to leave for like a heart transplant or things like that.
00:13:32.000These people will come up with the next iteration of the 25th Amendment, the 14th Amendment.
00:13:36.000They'll find something new in the, who knows, the 9th Amendment.
00:13:39.000They'll just keep making it up because they will get quote unquote scholars from these terrible liberal law schools.
00:13:47.000But since they are like the likes of Harvard and Yale and all of them, people will listen to them and they'll make a movement to remove Donald Trump from the ballot.
00:16:48.000Darren, the Biden White House is creating what they call a war room to counter the impeachment and the scandal blitzkrieg that is coming their way.
00:17:00.000Walk us through the details that we know.
00:17:02.000There's a great story at revolver.news.
00:17:07.000It looks like we're going into impeachment season and it's about time.
00:17:12.000And we'll have a full accounting, I would hope, of the crimes committed by the Biden family, the corruption, and at least air it out publicly.
00:17:24.000And Biden is very concerned, so much so that they're working on an entire infrastructure that would be cordoned off within the White House to manage the inevitable barrage of negative publicity that is expected to come his way and intensify in the coming months.
00:17:44.000So is it your opinion that the House Republicans should prioritize impeachment against Biden?
00:18:45.000At least this could provide an airing of everything that's gone on and hopefully dictate some media cycles concerning this.
00:18:53.000But so I would say it's better to do it than not, but I wouldn't attach any tremendous amount of importance to it because as you say, it's not going to be successful in the Senate and it would just be viewed as sort of one prong of force multiplier for other efforts to expose the criminality of Biden.
00:19:15.000I would really like to see some kind of prosecution, but again, that's an entirely different story and not really up to the House Republicans.
00:19:25.000So Darren, one of your main focuses at Revolver.news has been telling the truth about January 6th.
00:19:30.000You guys could check it out at revolver.news.
00:19:33.000And we are, can we just kind of give a macro update, Darren?
00:19:37.000I was talking to somebody the other day, and they said, oh, come on, Charlie, are they really going to arrest people that didn't get into the Capitol?
00:19:44.000So, Darren, can you just talk about this ring theory that they obviously started with out of the gate the indictments of people that were inside the Capitol that were vandalizing or assaulting police officers?
00:19:55.000But we are now getting at people that were just looking at the events that were outside of the Capitol.
00:20:04.000They just went after Nathan Hughes in Arkansas as if he was El Chapo.
00:20:08.000Darren, walk us through the latest on this.
00:20:11.000Well, I mean, to take probably the most egregious example, the biggest sentencing yet for J6 defendants was Enrique Tario, the head of the Proud Boys, who I don't even think was in DC during January 6th.
00:20:28.000In fact, he was arrested the day before under very bizarre circumstances, frankly, but that's another story.
00:20:36.000So he wasn't even in DC, and yet he gets the biggest sentence, which is 22 years.
00:20:44.000And then you have more minor figures like Owen Schroyer of InfoWars, who I think they're trying to put him in jail for 120 days, something like that.
00:21:00.000And this gets to the multiple issues that we've been covering.
00:21:03.000One is that because you had these critical individuals that we've sort of covered who haven't been indicted and so forth, who were methodically cutting down fencing, indicating that the area was restricted.
00:21:19.000They were cutting down that fencing in advance of the bigger crowd going over to the Capitol.
00:21:25.000There were so many people, hundreds, actually thousands of people who unwittingly walked into this legal booby trap where they were technically trespassing, but totally under the government's discretion as to whether they want to charge them.
00:21:42.000And all of the charges that I've seen so far regarding trespassing as such have been very, very conspicuously politically motivated, even compared to the generally politically motivated context of January 6 prosecutions.
00:22:04.000Of course, it's interesting because originally a lot of the regime media was saying about Ray Epps that, oh, he didn't go into the Capitol.
00:22:13.000So of course there's nothing we could charge him with, but that's simply not true.
00:22:18.000They could have charged him with trespassing easily like they did anyone else.
00:22:23.000And more seriously, based on a documented exchange he had with one of these Proud Boys guys, basically anticipating going into the Capitol, saying, when we go in, so forth, they could have hit him with a conspiracy charge just the same way that they've done with others.
00:22:43.000And so that's another kind of fascinating and frankly damning dimension of this.
00:22:49.000Not only, oh, they're going after all these people for trespassing charges, but that kind of puts to lie the excuse that, oh, they couldn't go after Epps for some charge because they're going after these other people who haven't gone into the Capitol.
00:23:01.000And in the case of both Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers and Enrique Tario, as I mentioned, of the Proud Boys, two of the biggest sentences in January 6, neither of those two went into the Capitol.
00:23:17.000With Enrique Tario not present, no weapons, 22 years in federal prison.
00:23:24.000Contrast that, Darren, with multiple cities that are paying cash to BLM rioters as apologies, as reparations to the BLM cohort.
00:23:39.000And it speaks for itself in terms of not only the disproportionate nature of the sentencing, but really the obscenely political nature of this that gets to the underlying rot of our justice system that, you know, allows for everything that we've been seeing.
00:24:51.000Well, just going back to the 22-year sentence, like you mentioned, the BLMs, but I mean, it wouldn't be that difficult to find instances of actual murders getting less than 22 years.
00:25:06.000You know, I think now I've got the idea for the next revolver piece.
00:25:10.000I want to see what kind of heinous crimes have resulted in less than a 22-year sentence, which Tario got, who didn't even go into the Capitol and did nothing violent.
00:26:14.000We're not going to stoop to the level of the people who control every institution of the country.
00:26:20.000We're going to remain on high on our perch of just perennial losers.
00:26:26.000And speaking of which, you mentioned AG.
00:26:28.000And this is totally in keeping with the problem that we're talking about is one of the most effective, if not the most effective AGs, Paxton, right?
00:26:52.000Ever since Fulton County District Attorney Fonnie Willis brought a racketeering indictment against Donald Trump and his co-defendants, we've talked a lot about Georgia's particularly expansive version of that RICO law.
00:27:02.000It creates real legal peril for the ex-president and his conspirators, and it seems to be an appropriate tool to use against the transgression of their illegitimate and fundamentally unlawful project to overturn the election.
00:27:15.000The very breadth of that law can be a real double-edged sword, as people in Georgia, particularly defense attorneys, will be among the first to tell you.
00:27:22.000We got an example of that yesterday when the very same grand jury that indicted out Donald Trump also indicted 61 community activists and others, many of whom were attempting to stop the construction of a new police training facility.
00:27:42.000You're going to have to be doing a lot more spin because once we get our way and we remove these weak need Vichy French Republican AGs one by one, and I'm going to start naming their names one by one.
00:27:50.000You know, Steve Marshall in Alabama, I've asked him, I said, hey, where are the indictments?
00:28:15.000I don't know if you're prepared to talk about this or not, but I mean, you can riff with almost anything.
00:28:19.000What I find interesting is the vector that they find this through.
00:28:23.000A focus for the last six years, this is how smart and how cunning they are, the left, is they go through the South.
00:28:29.000The South largely a Republican stronghold.
00:28:32.000This is where the white guilt narratives, the BLM stuff, and interestingly enough, it's where we have the most DAs and AGs and we're afraid to use it.
00:28:41.000Darren, talk about this kind of, I find the weakest Republicans in the country, the least likely to fight are south of the Mason-Dixon line.
00:28:54.000Well, it's, I mean, it's, it's, uh, it's, it's Reconstruction 3.0 or 4.0 or whatever version we're on now.
00:29:03.000But it's indeed the case that it's the Southern politicians that are the most beaten into submission and the most corrupt.
00:29:11.000And so it's a combination of the fact that, you know, there is a kind of sociology already embedded in the South of the kind of which, you know, could be good or bad.
00:29:27.000But when the good old boy network is kind of co-opted, then you have a multi-generational machine politics that is working to subvert the interests of the voters.
00:29:39.000And I think you see a great example of this in South Carolina, frankly.
00:29:42.000Maybe the best example, South Carolina, a very important state politically.
00:29:46.000You know, it's one of the key primary states.
00:29:50.000And look what it's produced, and that tells you all you need to know about how accurate, how painfully accurate your thesis is about how just weak and corrupt and subverted, in particular, the Southern GOP is, which is such a shame.
00:30:06.000In contrast, that I find some of the fire breathers, some of the most amazing is I don't consider Florida to be part of the South.
00:30:14.000They're either from Florida and amazingly from California, from New York, and from kind of that upper Midwest, right?
00:30:59.000And again, I think there's certainly that.
00:31:02.000I think there's something to the fact that weirdly, there's more of a kind of communal way of thinking.
00:31:11.000There are sort of the patronage networks that work in a specific way, a kind of orientation toward a specific type of machine politics, which when corrupted and subverted, is very hard to correct and untangle.
00:31:28.000And that's what I think you see in the South because it's really amazing.
00:31:33.000Can we name a single like really good GOP politician from the South?
00:31:42.000And I can think of several atrocious ones.
00:31:47.000So this really is, you know, it's unfortunate, but part of it is we just need to really put the magnifying glass on these people, put the magnifying glass on the AGs, serve it up to them on a silver platter.
00:31:59.000Don't make them come up with the idea.
00:32:34.000We don't have a single person that is in elected office that is an AG or that is a DA that is doing a shred of what the Democrats are doing to us.
00:32:43.000We should not rejoice in using political power.
00:32:46.000But if your back is against the wall and you are getting bent over and you are getting destroyed every single day, what are you going to do?