The Charlie Kirk Show - The Iran Easter Rescue

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00:01:17.000 All right.

00:01:19.000 It's April 6, 2026.

00:01:22.000 Happy Easter weekend.

00:01:23.000 Hope all of you enjoyed some time celebrating the risen Lord and enjoying it with your family and friends.

00:01:29.000 I know that's what I was doing.

00:01:30.000 Hopefully, you had a great experience as well.

00:01:33.000 Blake is in an undisclosed location.

00:01:36.000 Blake.

00:01:37.000 I'll disclose that I'm in South Dakota.

00:01:39.000 That's why I have.

00:01:40.000 Hunting things behind me.

00:01:42.000 I had to relocate where my setup was so I don't look like I'm in a North Korean prison all of the time.

00:01:47.000 I was expecting a hostage situation look.

00:01:51.000 That's what I was expecting.

00:01:52.000 No, no.

00:01:52.000 This isn't so bad.

00:01:53.000 Much better.

00:01:54.000 Much better.

00:01:54.000 Yeah, it's not so bad.

00:01:55.000 Now, I believe that we have.

00:01:57.000 So, obviously, the big news over the weekend.

00:02:00.000 Say that again. 0.71

00:02:01.000 So, we don't have Dakota yet.

00:02:04.000 He's a Medal of Honor winner and recipient.

00:02:07.000 And it sounds like we're having an audio issue, but he's lined up to give us his take.

00:02:12.000 We're going to see if we can get him.

00:02:14.000 Sorted soon.

00:02:16.000 But Blake, that was the big news over the weekend.

00:02:18.000 This rescue mission, we had the F 15E that was shot down in Iran.

00:02:24.000 And then we got one, we got the pilot back, but the WISO, it's a new term that everybody now is aware of, which is the weapon systems operator, was not rescued or recovered immediately.

00:02:36.000 And it was this harrowing, almost two day journey where we learned that this gentleman hiked up a 7,000 foot mountainous region in Iran.

00:02:45.000 He climbed into a crevice and then.

00:02:48.000 Activated his beacon.

00:02:49.000 He was injured while doing all of this.

00:02:52.000 Then the United States military was concerned that it could have been a ploy by the Iranians to lure in more American troops.

00:02:59.000 They then determined that it was not, that it was actually the authentic beacon from this WISO, this weapon systems operator, a colonel.

00:03:09.000 They then proceed to initiate a recovery mission, the likes of which I have never heard of in living memory at least.

00:03:18.000 It was absolutely remarkable, the details of this story.

00:03:22.000 Blake, I don't know if you have any thoughts before we play some of the play by play here, but we lost some aircraft.

00:03:29.000 But what we also established is that the United States military will leave no man behind.

00:03:34.000 I don't care what you think of Operation Epic Fury.

00:03:37.000 What these brave men and women did in our military was absolutely amazing, heroic.

00:03:43.000 And I think former CENTCOM commander, retired General Frank McKenzie, said it, and I think he said it really well.

00:03:50.000 Listen, it takes one year to build a military aircraft, it takes 200 years.

00:03:54.000 To establish a culture where we leave no American servicemen behind. 0.56

00:03:58.000 And I think that's beautifully put.

00:04:01.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:04:03.000 It's a big win for the armed forces, no matter how you put it.

00:04:07.000 Apparently, yeah, we lost a lot of equipment, and you find people dunking on us for this, but that really is the message.

00:04:15.000 There's something very special about a country that will sacrifice a bunch of equipment to get one pilot.

00:04:22.000 It's very great for the morale of our own soldiers to know that they're treated as valuable, and it's demoralizing to the enemy.

00:04:30.000 They had an American in their own territory.

00:04:33.000 Deep in their own territory, and they're shown they don't have mastery of it, they don't have control of it.

00:04:39.000 Apparently, they were offering like a $30,000 reward or thereabouts for catching him, and they were unable to do so, or so it seems.

00:04:47.000 Well, that's what's so funny about this.

00:04:49.000 So, Danny was actually showing me a bunch of these European Twitter takes, X takes, and they were creating European.

00:04:57.000 European.

00:04:58.000 We should put that in quotes.

00:04:59.000 Wow, exactly.

00:05:01.000 Who knows where these people are from, what bot farm in Pakistan they're from, actually.

00:05:04.000 But the European mind was unable to grasp that we would be willing to sacrifice military equipment to save one serviceman.

00:05:13.000 And that's the amazing part about this we have established a culture where, yeah, there it is.

00:05:19.000 They can't imagine that we would sacrifice equipment to save one man.

00:05:24.000 And I want to also underscore the fact that it wasn't just about one man.

00:05:30.000 This was about the fact that we are demoralizing the enemy.

00:05:34.000 Imagine if this.

00:05:36.000 Weapons systems operator would have been captured.

00:05:39.000 The added leverage that they would have had over President Trump and the Trump administration is we're trying to negotiate a potential peace.

00:05:46.000 We're hearing rumors of a 45 day peace plan that's going back and forth.

00:05:50.000 President Trump is saying, hey, you got 48 hours.

00:05:53.000 He extended that to, I believe, 8 p.m. Eastern Tuesday.

00:05:59.000 So he's giving them time.

00:06:00.000 And it sounds like President Trump's willing to start targeting additional targets that would be more infrastructure based, bridges, power plants, this sort of thing.

00:06:10.000 I want to.

00:06:11.000 I'm hoping and praying that this is just saber rattling.

00:06:16.000 We should probably read the message.

00:06:18.000 It was quite colorful.

00:06:19.000 We can't read all of it, but this was the president's Easter message.

00:06:24.000 Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran.

00:06:30.000 There will be nothing like it. 1.00

00:06:32.000 Open the expletive straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. 1.00

00:06:37.000 Just watch. 1.00

00:06:38.000 And a slight eyebrow raise.

00:06:40.000 He said, Praise be to Allah at the end of it.

00:06:44.000 That might be the.

00:06:46.000 That might be one of the most.

00:06:47.000 That's probably in the top 10 of strange Trump tweets, a highly memorable one.

00:06:51.000 But he was certainly sending the message that he remains prepared to blow things up.

00:06:59.000 Well, and listen, I hope, like I said, for the sake of the Iranian people in the future, that this is saber rattling, that President Trump.

00:06:59.000 Yeah.

00:07:08.000 Here's the leverage as I see it.

00:07:11.000 This is.

00:07:14.000 You've got the Iranians who clearly understand that the patience of the American people will wear thin if this drags out. 1.00

00:07:24.000 President Trump seems to know that.

00:07:25.000 There were clips of him during this Easter egg roll at the White House where he's saying, Listen, I would love to take the oil, but I want to get out.

00:07:34.000 The American people don't understand that, and I want to keep the American people happy.

00:07:37.000 So we're going to get out.

00:07:40.000 So the Iranian people, the Iranian regime, I should say, understands that there is a time limit to our patience here and the amount of. 0.93

00:07:48.000 Leash that we're given the president, and there's political calculations now.

00:07:52.000 So, they're basically saying we're going to hunker in, our leaders are going to continue getting killed, we're going to get all this stuff blown to smithereens, we're just going to wait it out, and there's not much you can do about it.

00:08:01.000 The leverage point that President Trump has is that we have air superiority, air dominance, we're going to blow up a bunch of stuff.

00:08:09.000 And in essence, their linchpin here is the Strait of Hormuz that they think that they can use that to keep leverage over the entire world.

00:08:19.000 So, there is this push pull here.

00:08:22.000 And we're not sure where it's going to work out and where it's going to end up, but hopefully saner minds will come to the fore and we'll get a peace deal.

00:08:30.000 I'm not sure that, as you say all the time, Blake, you can choose when you start a war, you can't always choose when you get out of it.

00:08:38.000 And the Strait of Hormuz, being this point of leverage that they have over the United States, is a huge point of leverage.

00:08:44.000 It's a huge obstacle to getting this done.

00:08:47.000 And the problem with the Strait of Hormuz is you can block it with relatively.

00:08:53.000 Unsophisticated means, small boats that float around, drop mines, and then you lock down 20% of the world's oil trade.

00:09:01.000 That's been the whole problem with the war.

00:09:02.000 It's been, you know, we have to lob missiles that cost $50 million, but a lot of modern warfare is mines you can make for a few thousand dollars, drones that are the price of a Honda Civic.

00:09:15.000 And a lot of it is about how quickly you can manufacture things, how quickly you can get them to the front.

00:09:21.000 And so we're seeing that challenge unfold, but hopefully we're on the brink of a peace deal.

00:09:27.000 That Easter is a time of making peace.

00:09:29.000 So hopefully that message might even spread to the mountains of Iran.

00:09:33.000 Well, let's hope it does.

00:09:35.000 We're still working on getting Dakota Meyer to get his perspective on this rescue mission, which was truly, truly historic.

00:09:43.000 I mean, again, whatever you think of this conflict, what our men and women in service in the military did here was truly, truly remarkable.

00:09:51.000 Special forces up and down the line.

00:09:53.000 So I want to go through.

00:09:55.000 I'm getting conflicting signals here, but listen, we have a segment here.

00:10:01.000 So there's this wild theory, Blake, and even you said, I wonder if there's anything to it.

00:10:07.000 All right.

00:10:08.000 So, the wild theory was put on X Twitter first by a gentleman named Finance a Lot.

00:10:16.000 Okay.

00:10:17.000 So, his take is that this thing's gotten, what is this at?

00:10:21.000 It's at 7.5 million engagements now.

00:10:24.000 He says the downed pilot was a fake cover story for a failed U.S. mission, U.S. military operation to capture Iran's primary stockpile of highly enriched 60% uranium.

00:10:36.000 So, the primary stockpile is located at Istfahan, exactly where the pilot was lost.

00:10:42.000 This explains why the U.S. heavily bombed the area while searching and why the C 130s were destroyed without loss of life.

00:10:49.000 The C 130s were hit on the ground while the special forces attempted to secure the material.

00:10:53.000 The entire operation became a massive rescue operation to extract the soldiers.

00:10:59.000 Listen, I buy parts of this as at least credible logically, okay?

00:11:06.000 I don't think this is what happened.

00:11:07.000 What we're told is.

00:11:09.000 That they were actually bombing.

00:11:11.000 What they were doing is the CIA was putting out disinformation intentionally to misdirect the Iranians on the ground.

00:11:19.000 So they said that the pilot had already, the pilot and the weapon systems operator, because I remember there was two in the F 15, there were two crew members.

00:11:29.000 So they put out misdirections.

00:11:31.000 Then they would bomb or strike anybody that was getting within about two miles of this gentleman who was, this colonel who was up about 7,000 feet.

00:11:40.000 He'd hiked 7,000 feet up there.

00:11:42.000 But it could.

00:11:43.000 And Blake, I'd love your take on this.

00:11:45.000 It could have been a massive misdirection to go get the uranium.

00:11:49.000 It's, in theory, could be something that would.

00:11:52.000 Or.

00:11:53.000 Another possibility is that's how the pilot went down, they might have been in danger because that plane might have been supporting the mission in some capacity.

00:12:04.000 I think there's some reason to think it could be true, which is just as they say, the location.

00:12:10.000 And we know the president was talking about this.

00:12:12.000 We know it has been in consideration to launch a mission to get the uranium.

00:12:18.000 And we have to think what would that look like?

00:12:19.000 Well, it probably would involve a pretty significant outlay of equipment, special forces.

00:12:25.000 You'd need big planes to get all of that thousands of pounds of material out.

00:12:29.000 It's plausible.

00:12:30.000 Now, is that the case here?

00:12:33.000 I feel like if it was, we wouldn't be first hearing about it from a random guy on X and then having everyone run with it.

00:12:40.000 But it's an intriguing possibility.

00:12:42.000 I want to say that much.

00:12:44.000 But I imagine if that is what really happened, we'll eventually find out.

00:12:48.000 Until now, I think the official story is more likely to be true overall.

00:12:52.000 Yeah, I would say listen, you had Iranian regime media basically saying that we were bombing the area to kill.

00:13:00.000 The weapons systems operator before Iranian forces could get him.

00:13:04.000 So there was actually misinformation from the Iranians saying we were trying to kill our own guy.

00:13:09.000 That's not what was happening.

00:13:11.000 I actually think one of the plausible scenarios here, again, not likely, but feasible, right?

00:13:17.000 Could have been that this was a whole plot and misdirection ploy to actually, and maybe we actually got some of the uranium.

00:13:24.000 Maybe we got all of it.

00:13:25.000 Like, I don't necessarily see any indication that it would have been a massive failure.

00:13:32.000 What was interesting is that the C 130s were destroyed on the ground.

00:13:35.000 They got stuck, which nobody has explained what stuck means.

00:13:40.000 Why would they get stuck?

00:13:41.000 How do multiple planes get stuck?

00:13:44.000 Did they get attacked?

00:13:45.000 Did they get bombed?

00:13:48.000 Did a drone kind of blow up the engine part?

00:13:50.000 I have no idea what it was.

00:13:52.000 But they got stuck, so they had to fly in additional.

00:13:57.000 They destroyed them on the ground.

00:13:58.000 They had to fly in additional C 130s to come get them and pull them out.

00:14:02.000 Some Blackhawks also got.

00:14:04.000 Pretty badly shot up, it sounds like.

00:14:06.000 Again, no loss of life.

00:14:07.000 And we're told at least 100, but probably more, special forces personnel were on the ground for this.

00:14:15.000 We have been talking about what it would take to get the uranium out of Iran, and it would look something like this.

00:14:21.000 It would look like this many military assets, this many personnel, special forces, Blackhawks, C 130s, transportation planes.

00:14:30.000 So, again, listen, here's what I would say.

00:14:35.000 To your point, I think the official narrative is the more feasible narrative, but this is also feasible.

00:14:43.000 And I don't necessarily conclude, as what is it, Finance a lot concludes that it was some massive failure of a mission.

00:14:52.000 It could have very well been successful.

00:14:54.000 So if you're going to plausibly put out into the world that this could have been this massive failure when they were trying to extract uranium, could have also been highly successful.

00:15:04.000 We're not sure.

00:15:05.000 But Listen, I will say this.

00:15:08.000 If the official narrative is true, it's completely incredible and heroic and amazing.

00:15:14.000 If it's untrue and this alternate theory is true, I also think that that's pretty amazing, right?

00:15:21.000 That we would be that creative, that clever, that cunning.

00:15:26.000 So I don't really see a bad way here, unless it was all just really like a massive failure, as Finance a lot says.

00:15:33.000 Wanted to share that with you folks, not because I necessarily think it's true, but because a lot of people.

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00:17:13.000 I want to welcome to the show now Nate Morris, who is a Charlie Kirk endorsed candidate for U.S. Senate from the great state of Kentucky.

00:17:21.000 Welcome back to the show, Nate.

00:17:23.000 It's great to see you.

00:17:24.000 I just keep hearing the most amazing things and updates out of your campaign.

00:17:28.000 I keep tabs on it.

00:17:29.000 I'm always like, how's Nate doing?

00:17:31.000 How's Nate doing?

00:17:32.000 You are surging.

00:17:33.000 And here's what's crazy when people know that Charlie endorsed you, when they know who's behind the other guys, your numbers swell even further.

00:17:41.000 So we got to get the memo out.

00:17:43.000 We got to let people know.

00:17:45.000 Who you are, what you represent.

00:17:47.000 Give us an update on how things are going in the state of Kentucky.

00:17:50.000 Well, thank you so much for the kind words.

00:17:52.000 And we are surging.

00:17:54.000 I think the people of Kentucky are ready for change.

00:17:57.000 We've had a senator in this seat for over 40 years and someone that stabbed the president in the back over and over again.

00:18:05.000 And the McConnell machine, they're trying to jam one of their candidates into the seat.

00:18:10.000 And I think Kentuckians have had enough of that.

00:18:13.000 And I think obviously that's what brought Charlie to Kentucky to endorse our campaign.

00:18:17.000 I think that's why he was so passionate that we needed somebody different and a non-career politician, somebody who's an outsider.

00:18:24.000 And that's the way we've been running this race.

00:18:26.000 And that's the kind of senator we're going to be.

00:18:28.000 But what's so fantastic is that I think we have a chance to frame the future of the Republican Party, what it's going to look like, what it's going to stand for.

00:18:41.000 This seat is so symbolic in so many different ways.

00:18:43.000 And I think that's what Charlie got so excited about.

00:18:46.000 But I think that's the opportunity for Kentuckians and for people all over the country to get involved in this race.

00:18:51.000 We got six weeks to go, and it's going to send shockwaves when we defeat the McConnell machine in Kentucky.

00:18:57.000 And we send a signal around the country that MAGA is here to stay, and the America First movement is here to live on for generations.

00:19:04.000 Yeah, well said.

00:19:05.000 And I feel like your race is sort of emblematic of a wider kind of fight over the future of the Republican Party that we're seeing.

00:19:13.000 You know, it was like 2016, Trump comes down the golden escalator, I was in 2015.

00:19:18.000 And he got all of this pushback from the never Trumpers, from the neocons, the America Last contingent.

00:19:26.000 And then you see the America First ascendant.

00:19:30.000 You see that become the dominant ideology, at least within the grassroots.

00:19:33.000 And then recently you're starting to see kind of the neocon wing of the party reassert itself.

00:19:41.000 And I don't like it.

00:19:42.000 I think a lot of people don't like it.

00:19:43.000 And you kind of realize what President Trump's up against.

00:19:48.000 These broader political dynamics that we're seeing play out right now, whether it's the support of our troops or just this kind of it's kind of a black pill like a rooting for us to fail or something.

00:19:59.000 I, you know, I'm trying to assess the nihilism that you see sometimes online.

00:20:04.000 What do you make of it, uh, Nate Morris?

00:20:06.000 Well, I mean, let's start with the United States Senate.

00:20:09.000 We have so many senators right now that claim to be Republicans that won't stand with this president to get the Save America Act passed.

00:20:15.000 I mean, think about that.

00:20:16.000 Think about how crazy that is.

00:20:18.000 Uh, the American people overwhelmingly.

00:20:21.000 Believe you should show an ID and want to protect our elections.

00:20:24.000 But we got some senators that I believe have a personal beef with the president, have personal jealousy, resentment.

00:20:32.000 And we got to have senators that are going to be in the mold of MAGAN.

00:20:35.000 They're going to stand with the president to get his agenda accomplished and get rid of things like the zombie filibuster.

00:20:41.000 You know, I think one of the more important issues that we're talking about in this campaign is an immigration moratorium. 0.95

00:20:47.000 You know, we were invaded under Joe Biden.

00:20:50.000 We had 20 million people come into the country we know nothing about.

00:20:54.000 And as Charlie talked about all the time, this is a battle for the country, but this is also a battle for Western civilization.

00:21:01.000 And I'm running against somebody.

00:21:03.000 They call him Amnesty Andy Barr for a reason. 0.94

00:21:07.000 Ever since he's gotten into Congress, he's left the border wide open.

00:21:10.000 He's naturalized millions of illegals.

00:21:12.000 And he does this because the business class, the rhino Republicans of our party, they want the cheap labor. 1.00

00:21:19.000 And he's willing to back up the truck for them and naturalize as many of these illegals as possible because that's where. 1.00

00:21:26.000 He's owned, and that's the support that he's been getting in this campaign.

00:21:29.000 And he's going to continue to carry their water as long as he's in politics.

00:21:33.000 But that's why this race is so important because we see what's going on in Europe. 0.56

00:21:37.000 We see Europe has fallen.

00:21:39.000 And Charlie was right to point this out so many times.

00:21:42.000 And all the mess over there is coming here, that same kind of thinking, if we don't get so tough.

00:21:49.000 And that's why we got to have people with spines of steel that are willing to hit the machine with everything they've got when they get to Washington and stand strong, especially on immigration.

00:21:58.000 Yeah, I mean, it's not even just Europe that's fallen.

00:22:01.000 We were talking with Gad Sad on the show the other day, and we've got a Senate candidate running in the Michigan race who says he won't talk about, for example, Khomeini, the supreme leader of Iran, being taken out because there's a lot of people in his state, in Dearborn, in the area around Detroit, who are very upset about it.

00:22:22.000 And I feel whatever you think of the war that's unfolding right now, it's been very revealing that we've imported a lot of people who, if the US gets in a war with a foreign power that is hostile to us, They will cheer for that foreign power. 0.63

00:22:36.000 Absolutely.

00:22:37.000 It's absolutely disgusting.

00:22:38.000 And, you know, we're in the fight of our life for Western civilization.

00:22:42.000 People don't realize it.

00:22:43.000 I see it as I travel, even parts of Kentucky.

00:22:47.000 Every state now, because of the invasion that happened under Joe Biden, has become a border state.

00:22:52.000 You know, we've got so many different things that are impacting our economy.

00:22:56.000 I think one of them is illegal immigration.

00:22:58.000 They're taking away opportunities from law abiding American citizens, they're taking away housing opportunities, educational opportunities.

00:23:05.000 They're flooding our streets, our cities.

00:23:08.000 They're causing all kinds of crime that we can't even be accountable for.

00:23:12.000 And this has got to stop if we want to save this country and save Western civilization.

00:23:16.000 And I think the last thing I'll say is term limits.

00:23:20.000 You know, I'm going to be replacing somebody that's been in the United States Senate for over 40 years.

00:23:24.000 And this guy's been in there since before the internet was created.

00:23:28.000 We got to have term limits in this country.

00:23:30.000 I've said I'm going to serve two terms, serve my time, and then go back to business after I serve as a United States senator.

00:23:37.000 That's what our founders intended.

00:23:39.000 They never intended for this to be someone's career for generations.

00:23:43.000 And the two guys I'm running against, they would never, ever agree to term limits because they need the job.

00:23:49.000 They want the prestige.

00:23:50.000 They want the paycheck.

00:23:51.000 And we got to have people in the mold of President Trump that don't owe the swamp anything and are willing to fight with everything they've got.

00:23:59.000 So, Nate, I think Blake and I have described the immigration invasion as the switch that, if you flip it, solves a host of ills, maybe all the ills, right? 1.00

00:24:10.000 So, there was a guy named Tyler Oliveira who went down to Frisco, Texas.

00:24:15.000 This clip's going viral right now.

00:24:17.000 And he's covering basically how Frisco, within 20 years, went from this quintessentially Texan part of Texas to now completely Indian. 0.98

00:24:26.000 And I'm going to play a clip here SOT 18.

00:24:29.000 I came here on H1B 2004.

00:24:32.000 Everybody was American.

00:24:33.000 But fast forward now, you don't see any Americans.

00:24:36.000 This is Frisco, Texas.

00:24:38.000 A once quiet farm town turned home to one of the largest and fastest growing Indian communities in America.

00:24:44.000 As the Indian population exploded from less than 2% to almost 20% Indian in the last 20 years, many Texans are outraged, declaring there has been an Indian invasion.

00:24:56.000 So this is H1B tide, it seems like.

00:25:00.000 What do you think needs to happen with H 1B?

00:25:02.000 And I'll just say one other thing, Nate.

00:25:05.000 A lot of people go, well, nobody, there's not the political will to get an immigration moratorium done in this country.

00:25:10.000 Well, there's not if we don't send guys like Nate Morris to Washington.

00:25:14.000 You're not going to start.

00:25:15.000 You got to start somewhere.

00:25:17.000 We got to start with actual fighters that are willing to make these hard stands and you expand the Overton window of what's possible.

00:25:24.000 But, Nate, what do you make of this with the H 1Bs and what's happening in Frisco? 0.64

00:25:27.000 Well, I think there's historical precedent for a moratorium.

00:25:30.000 I mean, we remember for about a 40 year period from the 1920s to the 1960s.

00:25:35.000 Happen for these the wave of immigrants that came into our country to Americanize. 1.00

00:25:40.000 We got to get we got to get back there again.

00:25:42.000 We've we've had so many people come into the country we know nothing about, and I've made it clear any form of immigration has got to stop until we send every illegal back. 1.00

00:25:50.000 It's really simple.

00:25:52.000 And I think a lot of folks, you know, they feel the same way, they get very animated by this issue, they see on the ground all the challenges that are happening.

00:26:02.000 But I've been very clear about it all immigration stops until every illegal goes back, and I think.

00:26:08.000 That's going to send a message.

00:26:10.000 Don't come to this country illegally. 1.00

00:26:12.000 Don't break our laws.

00:26:14.000 We're going to hold the line.

00:26:15.000 We're going to hold you accountable.

00:26:16.000 We're going to send you back if you try to invade us. 0.99

00:26:19.000 And I believe this is a threat to our quality of life, Western life, and most importantly, our national security.

00:26:26.000 I mean, we have to remember we've got a lot of people that wish to do us harm, and we certainly don't want them infiltrating our borders unnecessarily.

00:26:34.000 And that's certainly what happened under Joe Biden.

00:26:38.000 Again, if you send Nate Morris to D.C., the message will be heard loud and clear.

00:26:42.000 Clear that this is a winning message and that people across the political spectrum, actually, even Democrats, I believe this, Nate, want this, even if they're not willing to say it out loud because it's not politically expedient or appropriate for them to do so.

00:26:54.000 But deep down, they know we have a problem.

00:26:57.000 We know that the country has transformed in 20 years, and even Democrats want to see that stop, in my opinion.

00:27:03.000 NateMorris.com support this man, send him money, send him support, volunteer if you're in Kentucky.

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00:27:09.000 We need this man in D.C. Charlie knew that was so important to the future of the country.

00:27:13.000 Nate Morris, God bless you.

00:27:15.000 Thank you so much.

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00:28:33.000 We have Dakota Meyer here now. 0.83

00:28:35.000 We had some technical difficulties earlier in the hour, but he's back.

00:28:39.000 I just want to make a quick note about his service.

00:28:43.000 He's a veteran of the war in Afghanistan.

00:28:45.000 He was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions during the Battle of Ganjgal on September 8, 2009.

00:28:52.000 Meyer is the second youngest living Medal of Honor recipient.

00:28:56.000 He's the third living recipient for either the Iraq war or the war in Afghanistan, and he's the first living United States Marine in 38 years to be honored.

00:29:06.000 So we're very, very proud to have Dakota Meyer join the show.

00:29:09.000 Dakota, welcome to the Charlie Cook Show.

00:29:12.000 Thank you for having me.

00:29:13.000 Yeah, sorry about the technical difficulties, but glad to hear you.

00:29:16.000 You look and sound perfect.

00:29:18.000 So I just wanted to get your perspective as somebody that has been in really fierce battle situations like this.

00:29:27.000 When you're reading the headlines and the details of how they rescued this WISO, this weapons systems operator, 7,000 feet up on a mountain in a crevice and the beacon and the special forces, how incredible is this even to you?

00:29:42.000 Yeah, I mean, look, first off, it's nothing more than a display of what our men and women who serve this country are truly capable of, right?

00:29:50.000 I mean, they've always been capable of it.

00:29:52.000 I mean, this is what they do.

00:29:53.000 And this is also an example of our loyalty to each other, of leave no man behind and our commitment to our men and women who go and fight.

00:30:01.000 But what I want to point out mostly of this is we can't overlook the fact that what happened is we have leadership who are willing to not put any politics, any policy, and not give a about anything other than what is in the best interest of an American that's trapped, that is needing our help, and they're willing to risk it all in order to go get it.

00:30:24.000 It was not about, well, is it worth it?

00:30:27.000 Is it this or that?

00:30:27.000 It was like, hey, we're going to throw everything at it.

00:30:29.000 And that's what happens when you've got leadership like we have up there right now.

00:30:33.000 When we've got a sec war who's been on the ground, who's been shot at, who understands what the battlefield's like, I mean, that is exactly what happened.

00:30:41.000 And I think that, you know, as, yeah, we've got men and women who are able to go execute the impossible.

00:30:47.000 They're absolutely, we have the best men and women in the world who wear the uniform.

00:30:51.000 And that's what you got to see a piece of.

00:30:54.000 Yeah, I mean, I totally agree.

00:30:57.000 I think the thing that stands out to me is there was a bunch of people on social media talking about how we lost all these aircraft, these C 130s, a bunch of Blackhawks got shot up.

00:31:09.000 And the first thing that comes to my mind is the fact that, oh, well, Joe Biden left behind, what, $80 billion of equipment in Afghanistan, just left it there.

00:31:19.000 And people are going to start criticizing the fact that these special service personnel, You know, blew up a couple C 130s to make sure they didn't fall into enemy hands.

00:31:29.000 So I don't understand even the comparison here.

00:31:32.000 This is what you're trained to do in these scenarios.

00:31:34.000 Am I right, Dakota, to make sure that, you know, we don't leave valuable equipment and technology to fall into enemy hands?

00:31:42.000 Yeah, I mean, look, you don't see anybody out there who's ever been shot at that's sitting here saying, why did we do this, right?

00:31:49.000 I mean, you don't see any of that.

00:31:52.000 A lot of people say a lot of things and let them talk from their perspective, but it's almost like trying to explain to my kids why they shouldn't run across the road sometimes.

00:32:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:32:02.000 It's really, you just can't expect them to understand and to be able to comprehend when they've never done it or they've never seen the consequences of it.

00:32:08.000 But look, they can all have their opinion because there's men and women who are out there who are willing to go do the nation's bidding so that they can have that freedom of speech.

00:32:15.000 But again, like I would tell you what I think it does is I think it sends a message.

00:32:20.000 I think it sends a message to our men and women who are out there fighting that, hey, we've got leadership there right now who aren't going to negotiate and who are not going to sit back and tolerate or even risk the fact of you getting caught or even say, hey, look, it's not worth fighting over you for.

00:32:35.000 So, you know, I think it sends a message across the men and women who are putting their life on the line that we have leadership that's going to do whatever it takes to get you back whenever you're in that situation.

00:32:45.000 I'm curious your perspective, Dakota, somebody who's been fighting in this sort of like next gen of wars, right?

00:32:51.000 Afghanistan, Iraq, now Iran.

00:32:54.000 And you hear this echoed from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth as well, because he's of a similar generation.

00:32:59.000 These are men and women that have fought largely in the Middle East, thousands of miles away.

00:33:07.000 And this dynamic that you sometimes see play out on social media where people feel uncomfortable with the idea of doing this again, this war in Iran, boots on the ground.

00:33:17.000 What is your take on that?

00:33:19.000 You know, I know it's probably got to be an internal conflict, but you know, you've put your life on the line.

00:33:24.000 You sacrificed greatly for this country.

00:33:27.000 What do you make of the Iran war or conflict or excursion, however you want to describe it?

00:33:32.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's a best case scenario right now.

00:33:35.000 I mean, look, it doesn't, I haven't seen any troops on the ground.

00:33:37.000 I mean, you know, we're able to go in and we've got, look, the best thing that we need is we need people who, what you want fighting a war is people who don't want war, right?

00:33:46.000 And that's what you have up there is a leadership right now who are going to do whatever it takes to win.

00:33:50.000 They're not negotiating.

00:33:52.000 They're not sitting here.

00:33:52.000 They're not like making false promises and drawing lines in order to, that they have no, that they have no intentions of backing.

00:34:00.000 And so, you know, look, I'm not going to get into the, you know, Is it worth it?

00:34:05.000 Is it not?

00:34:05.000 I mean, go back to when's the last war that was actually, when's the last war that seemed to be worth it, right?

00:34:12.000 I don't know.

00:34:14.000 My job as somebody who loves this country is to go do whatever the nation asks me to do and whatever it needs to do.

00:34:19.000 What I will tell you is the globe is no safer with a country like Iran being armed and being nuclear armed, especially. 1.00

00:34:28.000 So look, I think that's the best case scenario as we're seeing right now.

00:34:32.000 There's no boots on the ground.

00:34:33.000 They're, you know, we're going in and we are doing everything we're saying we're going to do.

00:34:37.000 We are, you know, we're setting them back years every single day.

00:34:41.000 And, you know, so I think, I think it's a, again, I have no opinion as to one way or the other if we should or we shouldn't.

00:34:47.000 But I think that if we do, we should do it the way that we are doing it, if that makes sense.

00:34:51.000 No, that makes perfect sense.

00:34:53.000 Blake, I don't know if you have a follow up or not.

00:34:55.000 No, I think it all makes sense.

00:34:57.000 I think a generally positive and reassuring thing about the events of this past weekend is I know we've had.

00:35:06.000 A lot of concern about the overall state of the U.S. armed forces.

00:35:10.000 And I think it's a good confirmation that we're still able to do very cool and very effective and very lethal stuff.

00:35:20.000 And it's good confirmation of that, whatever else we're concerned about the conflict.

00:35:24.000 I think that's my big takeaway from this weekend the U.S. military is still a very formidable force, especially in those specialist operations.

00:35:33.000 And I was very heartened to see that.

00:35:35.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the same, right?

00:35:37.000 I mean, everybody's been concerned about like, like exactly.

00:35:40.000 I think it's a great point that Blake made right.

00:35:42.000 I mean, everybody's been concerned about, you know, the state of our military and things like that.

00:35:46.000 And I think over the last few months uh, we can say that our military is just fine.

00:35:50.000 Uh, we're still the most lethal force on the face of the planet and if you are an enemy of the United States Of America or the American people uh, you're not not safe anywhere, especially with this type of leadership who's willing to do whatever it takes to put America first.

00:36:03.000 And you know, and I think, as a service member, I think morale's high.

00:36:06.000 I mean, I think that morale is high right now across the board.

00:36:09.000 I mean, you've got, you've got marines sitting on a ship out there and look A group of Marines to come in there.

00:36:18.000 And so, you know, I think that it's good.

00:36:21.000 I think that it's good.

00:36:22.000 It's a good display of what our military is capable of.

00:36:25.000 And they're still the greatest men and women on the face of the planet.

00:36:27.000 Dakota Meyer, thank you, sir.

00:36:28.000 Thank you for your service.

00:36:29.000 God bless you.

00:36:31.000 Thank you.

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00:37:48.000 That is Charlie Klontz.

00:37:49.000 He's the Clemson University TPUSA chapter president.

00:37:52.000 Every time we do these, the inbox fills up.

00:37:55.000 You guys love these segments.

00:37:57.000 Hearing directly from the students, it's super, super important to understand where the country's at, where our young people are at, where we're obviously going to go in the future.

00:38:04.000 So without further ado, Charlie Klontz, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:38:08.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:38:09.000 Absolutely.

00:38:10.000 Listen, Clemson is one of those.

00:38:12.000 It's just a screaming chapter.

00:38:13.000 You guys do an incredible job down there.

00:38:15.000 The SEC chapters are like next level.

00:38:19.000 Just tell us what it's like day to day in your chapter, the tabling, what you guys were up to.

00:38:25.000 Give the audience a 30,000 foot view.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, I mean, really, since Charlie's died, our club went from a very decent sized club to one of the biggest on campus.

00:38:37.000 We went from around 250 to over 1,000 people at this point in our club.

00:38:42.000 Wow.

00:38:43.000 And Clemson, while it is a big university, it isn't quite the size of some of these other Southern schools.

00:38:49.000 We're only about 25,000 undergrads, as opposed to some of these others where they're going to 60,000 to 70,000.

00:38:57.000 So we've been able to host a lot of cool speakers.

00:39:00.000 2026 is a big year in South Carolina politics.

00:39:03.000 So we have a Senate seat up for grabs.

00:39:05.000 Lindsey Graham is vulnerable to a primary.

00:39:08.000 And then the governorship is also up.

00:39:11.000 So we've been hosting a lot of different candidates, wanting to hear what they've had to say.

00:39:14.000 And we've done a lot of different social events.

00:39:18.000 We've hosted, actually, for Good Friday, we gave away over 500 donuts.

00:39:22.000 We're out there tabling on a weekly basis.

00:39:24.000 Sometimes, you know, we don't get the kindest words, but we don't let that stop us.

00:39:28.000 Yeah.

00:39:28.000 Well, and by the way, I have a huge apology to make.

00:39:32.000 I said SEC, I meant ACC.

00:39:34.000 It's just, you know, Southern, it goes into the.

00:39:37.000 That's a big mix up, man.

00:39:38.000 I am a West Coast guy.

00:39:40.000 I'm sorry.

00:39:41.000 Yeah.

00:39:43.000 ACC.

00:39:43.000 Anyways.

00:39:45.000 You're going to lose us votes in the next.

00:39:46.000 Election.

00:39:47.000 I know.

00:39:48.000 They're going to take us personally.

00:39:49.000 I know better.

00:39:50.000 It's just a southern thing.

00:39:51.000 So, listen, I want to get into it.

00:39:53.000 We've been talking about this rescue mission in Iran, but let's go back a level.

00:39:57.000 We have been warning that young people are ambivalent to very antagonistic about this operation in Iran.

00:40:05.000 What are you seeing on campus, especially from the left?

00:40:09.000 Sure.

00:40:09.000 But even amongst Trump supporters, students that voted for Trump in 2024, what's the vibe about Iran?

00:40:16.000 A lot of people are falling victim to blackpilling, quite frankly.

00:40:19.000 I've noticed this, especially with the people who flirt with the alt right type things, a little bit farther right than what is conventional.

00:40:27.000 But a lot of people are very afraid of a repeat of Iraq, a repeat of the forever wars.

00:40:33.000 And while that is reasonable, I also think that the people that we have in charge are much more competent than before.

00:40:39.000 So I think that while there are a lot of people really concerned about a prolonged conflict, I think in the same manner of Venezuela, People are a fan of the leadership being taken out, but also are greatly afraid of something prolonged and something that could really be damaging for everybody.

00:40:57.000 So, Charlie, I want to.

00:40:58.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:40:59.000 Yeah, I want to expand on that a bit because I've been asked about this and I'm a little bit older.

00:41:04.000 I'm in my 30s.

00:41:05.000 So, I remember the Iraq War when it began.

00:41:08.000 But how do people about your age look at America's military, America's military adventures?

00:41:17.000 I guess.

00:41:17.000 I'm trying to get inside the head of a young person who only grew up with those wars ongoing but doesn't remember 9 11 or the launching of those wars.

00:41:26.000 Just what's the attitude that people bring towards military conflict?

00:41:30.000 Do they have certain assumptions that go into it?

00:41:34.000 I would say there's general distrust of American foreign policy, especially in the Middle East.

00:41:40.000 While a lot of those people were generally very happy, including myself, with how Venezuela went and very happy initially with how Iran's gone, they are generally skeptical of they've had a government that's led them on, that's drained us for billions or trillions of dollars at this point in the Middle East.

00:41:58.000 And there's a lot of weariness when it comes to overseas conflicts.

00:42:03.000 I mean, this dates back to Vietnam and farther.

00:42:07.000 So, but just so you say distrust, is it just when you guys were in middle school, high school, you just remember these conflicts sort of being this background drag, this background problem?

00:42:19.000 It was always on your shoulder.

00:42:21.000 It was all right.

00:42:22.000 We always talk about the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:42:25.000 And, you know, there's always, there's ghosts of the past.

00:42:28.000 And like I said, there's a lot more trust than there was before, but they, you know, that still persists.

00:42:33.000 So, Charlie, I have a question.

00:42:35.000 And maybe this isn't for you.

00:42:36.000 So, try and get inside the mind of maybe some of the other.

00:42:39.000 Chapter members or just conservatives on campus, does their patriotism hinge on their support or lack thereof for this Iran conflict?

00:42:48.000 Meaning, if they don't support it, they just feel they're just black pilling, they hate America, they want to see it all burn, or they just don't care anymore, they're throwing up, they're opting out.

00:42:57.000 Or is it less dire than that?

00:43:00.000 I think it's a lot less dire than that.

00:43:01.000 I think that these people love their country regardless.

00:43:04.000 These aren't people who hate America.

00:43:06.000 These are our friends, these are our allies, but they are, you know.

00:43:10.000 They want the best for America.

00:43:12.000 And in their opinion, they don't think a long term conflict in Iran would be best for America.

00:43:17.000 And they want, you know, they don't want American soldiers being shipped home in tombs.

00:43:22.000 Yeah.

00:43:23.000 Do you think that a lot of students, so you got a thousand members, which is tremendous.

00:43:28.000 Do you think a lot of them that voted for Trump or would have been supportive if they were of age would have voted?

00:43:35.000 Do you think that they are now not going to support President Trump?

00:43:40.000 And maybe it's 50 50, 60 40.

00:43:43.000 What's your take on that?

00:43:44.000 I've heard a couple flirt with the idea. 0.87

00:43:46.000 I think for the most part, I would say 75, 80, 90% of our members are still content with their decision to vote for Trump, as is myself as a Pennsylvania voter.

00:43:57.000 But, you know, there's people who say, oh, Camilla would have been better, you know, somewhat jokingly, but sometimes from these alt right people, they're very serious.

00:44:06.000 And I just, there's no way that they're nuts.

00:44:09.000 That's most people.

00:44:11.000 Charlie would be very frustrated with that, to say the least.

00:44:14.000 So, as you mentioned, there's a Senate race coming up in.

00:44:17.000 South Carolina, we had both candidates on for a sort of mini forum.

00:44:23.000 But we thought we'd ask you said you guys have done events as well.

00:44:26.000 Have you gotten a chance to see all of the candidates?

00:44:29.000 And I guess we'd be interested in knowing how young people feel about that race?

00:44:34.000 Is there a person conservatives gravitate towards?

00:44:37.000 Yeah, Paul Dance and Mark Lynch.

00:44:39.000 Yeah.

00:44:40.000 People are deeply unsettled with Lindsey Graham.

00:44:43.000 Our chapter, Paul Dance is very popular.

00:44:45.000 Paul Dance has been a great guy to me.

00:44:48.000 He's been great to a lot of these other conservative clubs across the state.

00:44:51.000 He's really resonated with the youth.

00:44:54.000 But regardless of who's running against him, Lindsey Graham is the antithesis of what young people want.

00:45:03.000 Young people are against this neocon foreign policy.

00:45:06.000 It's this kind of phase of conservatism that really is no longer so, that has been trucked up by Trump and Trumpism.

00:45:13.000 And I think Lindsey Graham, and this is echoed by me and many of my peers, Lindsey Graham needs a go.

00:45:21.000 But Paul Dans has been absolutely great to us.

00:45:25.000 And we've had him a couple times at this point.

00:45:28.000 Yeah, we had Paul Danz on the show.

00:45:30.000 He just made some news, actually, for standing by Vish Burra.

00:45:34.000 They were trying to get him fired.

00:45:35.000 I think Lindsey Graham's campaign was.

00:45:38.000 I know Vish, he's a good dude.

00:45:40.000 He's got some spicy takes, but I thought it was a good move by Paul Danz to stand by him.

00:45:45.000 Absolutely.

00:45:45.000 We're monitoring the press conference.

00:45:48.000 President Trump seems to be describing the rescue mission right now.

00:45:52.000 He did say that we could take out Iran in one night, which might be tomorrow night, which is a heck of a thing to say. 1.00

00:46:00.000 We want Iran to be functional should a new leadership come into place, and we want to look out for the Iranian people.

00:46:06.000 So, a little bit of note of caution, but President Trump, he's exerting his leverage as he sees fit right now.

00:46:13.000 We want to continue the conversation with Charlie Klontz, Clemson University, TPUSA chapter president, proud school in the ACC.

00:46:21.000 All right, so if we're getting into this foreign policy debate, which I've said often is the most controversial, divisive issue within the coalition that won President Trump the White House in 2024.

00:46:34.000 Charlie knew this.

00:46:35.000 We know this.

00:46:36.000 Let's talk about Israel, this topic of Israel.

00:46:39.000 So, you've mentioned kind of this alt right, this kind of black pilling that's going on.

00:46:46.000 Is that infecting kind of what you would consider?

00:46:48.000 I don't know.

00:46:50.000 Turning point kids are about as far right as you can go without going there, has been my experience.

00:46:56.000 But what is the vibe on Israel right now, especially as it relates to Iran?

00:47:01.000 People are totally out on Israel.

00:47:03.000 I think whether some people have, they're shifting.

00:47:07.000 Opinions in terms of how our relationship should be with them, but people are, especially the young generation, are totally done with them as an ally.

00:47:16.000 They are frustrated with APAC, they're frustrated with many of them, feel like we've been drugged into a war now with Iran because of Israel.

00:47:25.000 And while you can debate the truth of that, that's certainly the opinion within anybody who's under the age of 30, really.

00:47:33.000 That's the consensus, basically, is what you're saying, right or wrong, whether you agree or dis, but but in that's.

00:47:40.000 Within the turning point chapter, outside of the turning point chapter?

00:47:44.000 When you say done with Israel, do you just mean reexamining them as an ally? 0.52

00:47:50.000 Do we not want them as an ally?

00:47:52.000 What are kids saying specifically about that?

00:47:54.000 I think that a lot of people feel that we aren't being treated properly by the Israeli government, specifically Netanyahu.

00:48:02.000 But that's leading a lot of people to question whether we should have a relationship with Israel at all.

00:48:07.000 Do you feel that that, how often is that boiling over into, Let's just say anti Semitism or kind of the brain worm.

00:48:17.000 I certainly see it where people make everything about Israel or they start getting obsessed with the finance class, the various tropes that come with sort of being obsessed with the Jews all of the time.

00:48:31.000 Well, people are frustrated with neocons within the movement, people like Bill Kristol, Lindsey Graham.

00:48:37.000 Yeah, Lindsey Graham. 0.95

00:48:39.000 And people are frustrated with them and they feel that that has somewhat poisoned the movement to a degree.

00:48:45.000 And While that kind of reflects more poorly, especially amongst the young people who are kind of out on that neocon foreign policy, a lot of people have, you know, there's a way to go about it without being, you know, anti Semitic.

00:49:00.000 I don't think that, but there are certainly, obviously, you know, your alt right people of the world who will always make it about, you know, what they call like global Judaism or whatever you want to call it.

00:49:12.000 But I think there's a way to examine our relationship with Israel without it being about every Jewish person or, you know, or even just Jews as a whole.

00:49:22.000 Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.

00:49:24.000 I think Charlie agreed as well, for what it's worth.

00:49:26.000 I mean, we had lots of conversations about this.

00:49:29.000 Dennis Prager was one of Charlie's mentors, Jewish man, conservative Jewish man, brilliant mind, brilliant thinker.

00:49:34.000 We had him recently on the show.

00:49:36.000 I mean, if you want to hear somebody complain about Jews, go talk to Dennis Prager.

00:49:41.000 He'll complain about Jews more than anybody else.

00:49:44.000 So, yeah, I think there needs to be boundaries about the way that we talk about these issues.

00:49:48.000 Scapegoating a people group that represents 0.02% of the global population is controlling everything. 0.98

00:49:54.000 I think it's a brain rot.

00:49:56.000 It leads to destruction.

00:49:58.000 But listen, there is a third way.

00:50:00.000 I don't know if you saw, but at the Student Action Summit in 2025 in Florida, we had a whole roundtable discussion, Charlie and I, about listening to students' views on Israel.

00:50:12.000 And things they were sympathetic to were that they share intel with us, that we share a common adversary in radical Islam, and Islam is conquering Western civilization or has a desire to do so. 0.96

00:50:24.000 And so I think there's an important sort of middle lane here that we could.

00:50:28.000 Capture where you sort of say, Hey, let's reassess.

00:50:30.000 Should we fund Israel, you know, to the tune of four billion dollars on an annuity every year?

00:50:34.000 Uh, what's how do we assess the relationship as to in terms of how they're an ally?

00:50:40.000 How do we work with them?

00:50:42.000 We don't want to get drug into wars, nobody wants that.

00:50:44.000 And I think you're you're spot on to say that young people are the sentiments have changed.

00:50:48.000 I really want our older audience to understand how young people are thinking about this topic because it's it's not going anywhere.

00:50:55.000 We keep talking about it.

00:50:56.000 Um, so I don't know if you have any other thoughts on Israel, we can move on because there's a lot of other topics here.

00:51:03.000 Yeah, I think people definitely are fed up with AIPAC in particular.

00:51:08.000 They see it as just bribery.

00:51:10.000 And quite frankly, I have a similar view to that.

00:51:13.000 I think that needs to be reexamined.

00:51:14.000 I think foreign aid as a whole needs to be reexamined.

00:51:17.000 But Israel being a large beneficiary, especially big name beneficiary of foreign aid, I think a lot of people are done with that, especially when you consider how their foreign aid is structured.

00:51:28.000 They can kind of spend it however they want as opposed to other benefits or beneficiaries of foreign aid.

00:51:35.000 But I was supposed to be on that student panel with Charlie at Student Action Summit.

00:51:39.000 Unfortunately, I could not go.

00:51:41.000 And it seemed like a lot of my peers shared the same view.

00:51:44.000 Yeah.

00:51:45.000 I mean, it is interesting.

00:51:45.000 I think that's safe.

00:51:47.000 You know, the pushback is that we get more value.

00:51:49.000 This is what the defenders of the relationship status quo would say.

00:51:52.000 We get more value out of that $4 billion in terms that they spend a lot of it on American military.

00:51:57.000 So it kind of comes back into the system.

00:51:59.000 We get intel sharing.

00:52:00.000 They're the most reliable ally in the region.

00:52:03.000 I just don't think those arguments are working anymore with young people.

00:52:08.000 They simply don't care.

00:52:09.000 They want.

00:52:10.000 Nation building here at home.

00:52:11.000 They don't want nation building abroad.

00:52:13.000 I think they're sick of foreign entanglements, foreign wars. 0.80

00:52:16.000 And Iran, you know, whether or not it was the right geopolitical national security decision or not, it certainly comes with a lot of political risk here at home.

00:52:26.000 And I think most pronounced is going to be with young people, especially going into the midterms.

00:52:31.000 And so that's my next question for you, Charlie.

00:52:33.000 In the midterms, do you feel there's an enthusiasm to get out and vote?

00:52:36.000 Is there an enthusiasm?

00:52:38.000 I mean, South Carolina might be different because you have Paul Dans, you have Lynch.

00:52:42.000 As alternatives to Lindsey Graham, but are you sensing that there's an enthusiasm to be civically engaged ahead of the midterms?

00:52:49.000 It's difficult to say as a whole, but I think people are pretty thrilled on the state level about getting out there.

00:52:54.000 But there are also people who are worried about the state of everything, the state of Iran.

00:53:00.000 I live next to a gas station, I look back and see the gas price every day.

00:53:04.000 So there are definitely those concerns.

00:53:07.000 Well, I think on the state level, South Carolina does well.

00:53:09.000 I think there are definitely reasons to be a little bit alarmed nationally, but I think the more recent polling looks better, which is always a good sign.

00:53:17.000 Charlie, it's great to have you, man.

00:53:19.000 And your perspective is super valuable here.

00:53:21.000 Clemson is a rocking chapter.

00:53:24.000 We're proud of you guys.

00:53:25.000 And, you know, no boots on the ground.

00:53:27.000 I think we can be very clear about that.

00:53:29.000 I think a lot of us are willing to give Trump a lot of leash because he hasn't gotten us into quagmires and forever wars.

00:53:35.000 But we don't want to see this anymore.

00:53:37.000 And we don't want to see our men and women come back in coffins, like you said.

00:53:40.000 And I think we can be loud and proud about that.

00:53:43.000 We want to see this conflict resolve quickly.

00:53:46.000 And I think you're articulating that very well.

00:53:48.000 So good job.

00:53:50.000 Thank you.

00:53:50.000 Great work.

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00:54:59.000 Isabel, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:55:02.000 It's good to see you.

00:55:03.000 You and I were cracking up over text because I just felt like you got yourself embroiled in one of those classic Charlie controversies where you said something like pretty based and then you got featured on The View.

00:55:16.000 And I was like, what are they doing?

00:55:17.000 Like, Isabel, this is like great PR.

00:55:20.000 This is wonderful for Isabel because you had the great take.

00:55:23.000 So I just, we knew we had to get it.

00:55:26.000 Our schedules were not overlapping perfectly.

00:55:29.000 So now we got you here.

00:55:30.000 But I think it was so great.

00:55:31.000 So I got to start with the clip and we'll get.

00:55:33.000 We'll have you fill in the blanks if there was anything left unsaid.

00:55:37.000 Sot 9.

00:55:38.000 If you're not encouraging your children to grow up and have the courage to get married and have kids, more kids than they can afford before they think they're ready, it is high time to start.

00:55:48.000 It is these choices, like deleting our dating apps and quitting birth control pills and saying I do at the altar, that ultimately trickle down into the political policies that we will see save our country.

00:55:59.000 You're such a chauvinist, Isabel.

00:56:01.000 What were you trying to say here?

00:56:03.000 Not a dare I, right?

00:56:03.000 What would like.

00:56:04.000 Yeah, fill in the blanks here for us.

00:56:06.000 Well, Andrew, as you can see, that was a clip taken from CPAC, which happened a little over a week ago now.

00:56:11.000 And I was asked to speak on a panel with four people total, all women, about the importance of the family as the center of American society.

00:56:18.000 It's hardly a new topic or particularly a controversial one in the conservative movement, especially as you know, with Charlie refocusing conservatism really on that foundation of faith and family over these past few years for young people.

00:56:31.000 That was the last answer that I gave on a 30 minute panel to the last question asking me to give a message to the audience of advice for how to save American culture.

00:56:41.000 If you've ever been to CPAC, you'll probably know that the average age in the audience is a little bit older than myself.

00:56:46.000 So I was speaking to people my parents' age and saying, Hey, you need to tell your adult children the real way we're going to save our country is to have the courage to fall in love and get married.

00:56:54.000 I had no idea this was going to be such a controversy across our country.

00:56:58.000 I certainly never thought The View would be picking it up for an entire segment.

00:57:02.000 But a week ago today, logged on after receiving a DM from a reporter asking me to comment on what The View had to say and learned the ladies of the left are so deeply offended by the idea of having children.

00:57:15.000 If you remotely suggest this, good luck to you.

00:57:18.000 You'll be smeared all over national television.

00:57:21.000 Yeah, well, they said that you were wrapping up a woman's worth into her ovaries, which, you know, is a take. 0.97

00:57:29.000 Sot 10.

00:57:31.000 What?

00:57:32.000 What is she?

00:57:33.000 What?

00:57:33.000 What the?

00:57:36.000 What?

00:57:36.000 So, my ultimate beef with this is that it wraps a woman's worth up in her ovaries.

00:57:42.000 The fact that we keep putting this on women that they're only worth in society, politics, policies, is if they produce a baby. 1.00

00:57:50.000 Or have a husband is the stupidest, most old fashioned thing. 1.00

00:57:53.000 We have come too far. 1.00

00:57:55.000 There is the call to responsibility for the men who make who help make these children, right?

00:58:01.000 I am.

00:58:01.000 I don't know why it's always people lecturing women what they have to do.

00:58:07.000 Bottom line, if you're not paying my bills, you don't get to tell me what I do with my uterus.

00:58:13.000 Oh, gosh.

00:58:15.000 Anna Navarro is probably like, please don't procreate. 1.00

00:58:20.000 If you're like that, we're not suggesting you should procreate.

00:58:24.000 What do you take about this whole thing?

00:58:26.000 Because it kind of gives way to a larger discussion about a woman's role in society, right?

00:58:33.000 Now, I would think that you do a podcast, but that gives you a lot of leeway and flexibility with your schedule to be basically a stay at home mom who does work, obviously, but explain this dynamic.

00:58:45.000 For people at home that don't understand the controversy.

00:58:48.000 Yeah, well, first, I'll just address some of those comments right there because every time I hear this clip replayed over and over, the more frustrated I get.

00:58:56.000 First of all, obviously, never said a woman's only worth is wrapped up in our reproductive system.

00:59:01.000 But I do think that we treat women and pregnancy, the most beautiful thing that women get to experience, the only time that humanity is invited into creating new life right alongside God.

00:59:13.000 We treat this as something like a disability or something that's going to destroy the rest of your life, it's going to maybe kill you. 1.00

00:59:19.000 That's certainly how it's presented on TikTok to the women of my generation instead of what it really is.

00:59:24.000 And that's a superpower.

00:59:26.000 Like, nothing would make me happier having experienced pregnancy, childbirth, and raising my daughter through her first year of life this last year.

00:59:33.000 Nothing would make me happier than seeing more women encouraged to embrace this joy, this purpose, and fulfillment that is unlike anything else that humanity really has to offer.

00:59:42.000 It's not a disability, it's a superpower.

00:59:45.000 That said, I think it's been funny this last week to see how many people are upset with me for what I had to say from various angles.

00:59:51.000 For some, I'm this extreme trad wife that's barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. 0.85

00:59:56.000 And how dare I tell working women that you do? 1.00

00:59:58.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:59:59.000 If you want to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, Blake is looking for one of those right now. 1.00

01:00:04.000 So if you have resumes, send them in at freedom at charleykirk.com.

01:00:08.000 We should just, we need to have a barefoot and pregnant email handle. 1.00

01:00:13.000 Barefoot and pregnant at charleykirk.com.

01:00:16.000 Yeah.

01:00:16.000 If you graduated from one of the illustrious Ivy League schools, bonus points for Blake.

01:00:22.000 He needs a history nerd to share history.

01:00:24.000 Yeah.

01:00:27.000 They don't need to share it.

01:00:27.000 They just have to tolerate it.

01:00:29.000 Yeah, fair enough.

01:00:30.000 Well, anyway, so for some, it's really this like you're an extreme trad wife and you're saying women are never allowed to work.

01:00:37.000 And then on the other flip side of things, people look at me and say, oh my gosh, this woman is a secret, covert feminist because she has a full time job. 1.00

01:00:44.000 And yet now she's also telling people to have children.

01:00:47.000 How dare she say that people can balance both?

01:00:50.000 And nobody ultimately will be happy with this.

01:00:52.000 But I really do think that we are underselling women's capacity for greatness.

01:00:57.000 So much in the modern discourse about motherhood.

01:01:00.000 Is having both extremely difficult?

01:01:02.000 Yes.

01:01:03.000 And there will be sacrifices that have to be made along the way to prioritize your family, which of course is the most important thing, far more important to your life than a paycheck.

01:01:12.000 But to tell women that it's impossible for them when they're facing pregnancy in their life to graduate from college or to start their own business or to be a successful attorney or politician or doctor, that's just not true objectively.

01:01:24.000 And I think we should be speaking life into this next generation of women. 0.96

01:01:28.000 The same way that Charlie spoke so much life into my family and my husband and I, that it takes a great team to raise a beautiful family, but it's possible and it's worthy for saving society for the next generation.

01:01:39.000 Not just, yeah, not just possible, but literally the future will only belong to the people who show up for it.

01:01:46.000 And I just find it bizarre that you've encountered this sort of hostility.

01:01:50.000 And you try to get inside the head of the ladies at the Viewer, wherever, and you ask, what do they envision society looking like in 50 years or 100 years or 1,000 years if they're going to have this attitude that motherhood and parenting and families are this optional lifestyle accessory that apparently most people don't need to go for? 0.95

01:02:12.000 It's a great question.

01:02:13.000 And honestly, worth asking because every single one of the women sitting around that table last week. 1.00

01:02:18.000 Smearing me for being a mom and encouraging other Gen Z women to become moms is a mother themselves.

01:02:23.000 They have children and they have these beautiful, thriving careers where they get to sit on multi million dollar TV sets in New York.

01:02:30.000 Just beautiful is an adjective I'm not sure I would use for it, but that's fine.

01:02:34.000 They have careers.

01:02:35.000 And maybe it's an argument against women having careers. 1.00

01:02:38.000 You ever think of that, ladies of the view?

01:02:40.000 Fair enough.

01:02:40.000 Maybe you're a living embodiment against it.

01:02:44.000 So I do want to play it.

01:02:45.000 You referenced Charlie.

01:02:46.000 So let's, this is his show.

01:02:49.000 It will always be his show.

01:02:50.000 Sot 22.

01:02:52.000 Children is more important than having a good career.

01:02:53.000 I have two kids.

01:02:54.000 I also have an amazingly blessed career.

01:02:56.000 Our podcast is doing great, but my kids matter way more than how many social media followers that I have.

01:03:01.000 And I would also tell young ladies, you can always go back to your career later, that there is a window where you primarily should pursue marriage and having children.

01:03:09.000 And that is a beautiful thing.

01:03:10.000 This is not about shaming.

01:03:11.000 It's not about ridiculing.

01:03:12.000 It's not about moralizing.

01:03:13.000 It's about lifting up what is beautiful.

01:03:16.000 And by the way, we look at the mental health data.

01:03:18.000 Young women are not okay. 1.00

01:03:20.000 Half, that is right. 0.99

01:03:21.000 Of liberal white women say that they have some form of mental health issue that has been diagnosed by a doctor.

01:03:27.000 What is the number one thing that mental health professionals will tell you when it comes to mental health issues?

01:03:32.000 Loneliness does not help.

01:03:33.000 So maybe we should solve the loneliness epidemic by encouraging young ladies to get married and have children. 0.98

01:03:38.000 It's good for them, it's good for America, and it's good for our future.

01:03:42.000 Yeah, and this is what I want to get into, Isabel.

01:03:45.000 It's kind of why I reference your particular career.

01:03:47.000 I do think there are some careers that lend themselves well to still being a mom and not, but when we kind of imagine the average, let's say middle management in a cubicle, like that's really hard to still be raising your kids.

01:03:59.000 And when we look at the life cycle of a mom, you graduate, you're not married, you're not married yet, right?

01:04:07.000 You're probably looking for a career, you start a career, but then you have a family, right?

01:04:11.000 And there's this window.

01:04:13.000 And it's so short when you start having families.

01:04:15.000 I mean, I've got three little kids that the window, and I can already tell from my eight year old daughter that it's like it's such a short window when they're really little and really reliant on you and when they need you around all the time.

01:04:26.000 And I just think, listen, if it's a five year gap, if it's a 10 year gap, what could be more important and valuable than a mom devoting her life to raising her children and her husband's children?

01:04:40.000 I want to get into that because this seems to be where all of this goes to work life balance.

01:04:46.000 There's a certain wing of the conservative movement that's like, listen, if you're not encouraging women to stay at home and raise their children, you're not conservative at all.

01:04:55.000 And then there's this other wing.

01:04:56.000 I had kind of a back and forth with Lisa Booth, actually, from Fox News, where I guess she doesn't have kids.

01:05:02.000 And she was saying that that POV is turning off women in the conservative movement.

01:05:06.000 So, how do we strike a balance here that actually resembles pragmatism, the truth, lived experience?

01:05:12.000 I think that's an important nuance to your question about turning off or turning on women in the Conservative movement, because truly in 2026, it is so, so important for us to be strategic in how we are messaging to young women.

01:05:24.000 Young men of my generation have been incredibly privileged to have the voices of Charlie Kirk.

01:05:29.000 And I'm thinking of other men like Brandon Tatum and Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles, Jordan Peterson, people who have been feeding into masculinity and reviving God given manhood for the last several years really, a decade or so in culture.

01:05:41.000 Women have yet to really have that upswing. 1.00

01:05:44.000 And you're watching the cultural attack on womanhood.

01:05:47.000 Gets so much stronger and so much louder than it ever was calling masculinity toxic.

01:05:51.000 For us, it's erasing womanhood altogether, calling you a birthing person, trying to outsource pregnancy to birth robots they're currently making in China, making new babies in petri dishes, in laboratories, in startup companies in San Francisco, and everything else.

01:06:07.000 I mean, just the most dystopian stuff you've ever heard of, ironically, from the same people who often scream at you about the handmaid's tail as a conservative.

01:06:14.000 And so I think there's this confusion among young women in society.

01:06:17.000 What is my life supposed to look like?

01:06:19.000 Supposed to embrace the new wave of this girl boss thing where the only thing that matters is my career.

01:06:25.000 And I'm essentially mocked and ridiculed if I even want to get married or have kids.

01:06:30.000 Or is there a different path that I may take where either I can choose to be a stay at home mom or I can work as a mom?

01:06:36.000 But either way, my family is the more central part of my identity.

01:06:40.000 My faith in my family will ultimately matter so much more than my computer screen and my cubicle.

01:06:46.000 If the right can learn how to message effectively in that regard, I think we have nothing but opportunity.

01:06:51.000 To connect with young women who, of course, instinctually want to commit their life to a beautiful man who loves them and lays his life down for them for the rest of their lives in marriage, and of course wants to bring new life into the world.

01:07:03.000 We have a natural motherhood instinct that society is trying to get us to ignore.

01:07:08.000 And you saw it on full display with The View last week, essentially saying if you even want kids, that's the wrong decision, and you're only putting women back into a box of their ovaries in the past. 0.95

01:07:19.000 Yeah, and I just want to revisit this idea.

01:07:21.000 And I'd love Blake's POV as somebody that's kind of not in this cycle yet, in the season of his life yet.

01:07:26.000 But I'm telling you, there is something.

01:07:28.000 Wow, Blake, the ouch.

01:07:30.000 No, I'm trying to do it the nice way, Paul.

01:07:33.000 Always persecuted over here.

01:07:35.000 No, listen, Blake's going to find his special someone.

01:07:38.000 I believe it.

01:07:39.000 So here's the deal.

01:07:40.000 I just, again, whether it's five years or 10 years, this season of a woman and a mother's life, where if they can find a way for her to stay home and be with the kids full time, I just, I really.

01:07:52.000 Want to lift that up as an ideal.

01:07:55.000 It's not going to happen for everybody, whether finances preclude it, whether, you know, what other situations, but to have it as an ideal, I think is a beautiful thing.

01:08:03.000 And you're somebody that, like I said, you have a, if you can get a situation where you can kind of work from home and you can make that work and be full time with your kids still, I think that's great too.

01:08:13.000 There's not a one size fits all, but I do think lifting up an ideal is really, I think it's so precious because that clip Charlie said, it's, Beautiful, it's God given, it's an amazing thing for this season where they're so reliant on you, and it's the formative years where so much of their the rest of their life is going to be shaped.

01:08:31.000 I have zero problem lifting that up as the ideal because I think that your kids will be blessed, your marriage will be blessed.

01:08:39.000 I think the mother will be blessed, and you can always go back to work, you can always go back to your career.

01:08:43.000 If you are able and blessed like you to have a career where you can kind of have find a fusion of the two, I think that's amazing too.

01:08:50.000 But, anyways, I maybe I'm as a man, I'm mansplaining, but that's how I feel about it, honestly.

01:08:56.000 I don't know, Blake, if that resonated at all or not, but.

01:08:59.000 I mean, it all makes sense.

01:09:01.000 It all makes sense to me.

01:09:02.000 I think in the end, it's a question of values.

01:09:06.000 We talk a lot about how to encourage families, and I think the focus often ends up just, oh, try to throw them money for more accessible daycare or something.

01:09:18.000 And what you really need to do is you need to win the fight on values.

01:09:21.000 You need to sell the narrative that having children is a core part of.

01:09:28.000 Certainly, married life and ideally almost everyone's life.

01:09:32.000 And it's just something you do because that is what is valuable to society, for civilization, and for your own flourishing.

01:09:41.000 And we just have to sell that at all times.

01:09:42.000 And once you make that a core thing that you do and it's not just a lifestyle choice, that is what drives it to happen the most.

01:09:50.000 And we've seen it fade away so much because we've just turned it into an accessory, a lifestyle choice.

01:09:56.000 Because if it's just a choice, it's one a lot of people won't make because it's annoying or difficult, it's inexpensive.

01:10:01.000 Isabel, final 45 seconds to you.

01:10:04.000 Take us away here.

01:10:06.000 Yeah, I would just add that we are missing so much purpose in our lives right now, especially as a generation.

01:10:11.000 And in the midst of trying to ask, who am I and what am I doing here?

01:10:14.000 We're also facing the greatest mental health crisis the world has ever seen.

01:10:18.000 Married moms under 35 years old are three times happier than their unmarried childless counterparts.

01:10:26.000 And there's something to that because it's a reason to jump out of bed in the morning and to realize our lives are not supposed to be just about ourselves in this.

01:10:33.000 Malignant narcissism.

01:10:35.000 We find real meaning and purpose in serving and loving others.

01:10:38.000 And there's no more beautiful way to do that than in your family.

01:10:41.000 So I reiterate, ladies of the view, get married, have kids, more kids than you think you're ready for, more than you think you can afford. 0.98

01:10:48.000 Amen.

01:10:49.000 Well said.

01:10:50.000 Get married, have babies.

01:10:51.000 It's pretty simple.

01:10:53.000 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

01:10:54.000 Thank you, Isabel.

01:10:55.000 Thank you.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 06, 2026

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