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00:01:25.000The Starbucks Unions, that is the Starbucks workers, have come out and they say they stand in solidarity in regards to the attacks on Israel.
00:01:36.000The Starbucks Workers Union voices support for Hamas after 1,300 Jews were brutally massacred.
00:01:46.000Joining us now is Michael Seifert from Public Square.
00:01:54.000I'm sure there are plenty of coffee companies that you could remind our audience about on publicsq.com and the public square app.
00:02:01.000Michael, share a little bit about that and the broader vision because again, we see this pattern.
00:02:05.000Anytime that there is something disgusting, ugly, evil, vile, corporate America works in harmony with the most radical centers.
00:02:12.000Not all of them, but this one in particular, 9,000 Starbucks baristas expressed, quote, solidarity with Hamas.
00:02:20.000Michael, your reaction and tell us about alternatives.
00:02:22.000Well, obviously, this is disheartening to hear.
00:02:25.000I also think it's kind of ironic because many of those baristas with the purple hair would be thrown off buildings if they were actually in Gaza.
00:02:33.000So this whole progressives for Palestine thing is so absurd on its face, but the reality is they believe they're in some epic religious battle against oppression.
00:02:42.000That's what these Starbucks union baristas believe.
00:02:47.000But the problem is when they have backing from major organizations like the Union of Starbucks, when these ideas are actually given oxygen to grow their fire by real corporate organizational backers, we have a real problem on our hands.
00:03:04.000What they're actually saying is that they stand with terrorism.
00:03:10.000So I think it's an important reminder for consumers to realize that you have power in your dollars.
00:03:15.000What you spend your money on is what you empower.
00:03:17.000And what I can tell you confidently is that we have thousands of coffee companies on the public square platform, none of whom support legitimate terrorists.
00:03:44.000Download the Public Square app right now.
00:03:47.000And you could be able to navigate the parallel and patriot economy.
00:03:52.000Michael, you guys have been through a roller coaster the last couple of days, and you are experiencing kind of corporate warfare, I guess you could say.
00:04:57.000The darkness that you find on Wall Street is appalling, but the light we're trying to bring to that environment and the message we're trying to bring to that environment, we ultimately believe will prevail.
00:05:06.000What we learned this week is that we have a network of short sellers that are fighting hard against the growth and the strength of the public square platform, and they're doing it on falsehoods, lying blatantly, trying to go out and spread messages like we're out of cash or we're raising money.
00:05:23.000And we are now needing to cover ourselves that our management has sold, that I have sold when the reality is, and we put this out in a legal statement this morning, none of our management has sold.
00:05:37.000In fact, our balance sheet is strong and we don't need to go raise money from these people that would try to suck us dry on Wall Street.
00:05:43.000Instead, the parallel economy is not only sustainable, it's strong.
00:05:47.000Our revenue, for example, grew 300% just in the last quarter.
00:05:52.000So, Charlie, it's an exciting time in the parallel economy because while the arrows are flying at us, the truth ultimately prevails.
00:05:58.000And the truth is this: a network of consumers that is larger than any other emerging market the world has seen in modern history has finally said we're done.
00:06:09.000We're done with progressive corporatism.
00:06:11.000We're done with selling our souls to countries that hate us.
00:06:14.000And instead, we're going to prioritize American enterprise, businesses that make our communities strong.
00:06:19.000And thankfully, not only is that a liberating movement, it's also a lucrative one.
00:06:23.000So we're pleased to push back on behalf of we the people, and we are just getting started.
00:06:27.000And you can look at the values of public square at publicsq.com, united in the commitment to freedom and truth, always protecting the family unit, believing in the greatness of this nation, and will always fight to defend it.
00:06:38.000What I love about public square is anytime there's any one of these corporate controversies, I text Michael, Michael, do we have a safe?
00:06:43.000Because Liberty Safe is all off the wall.
00:06:46.000And it's creating the directory, creating the navigational tool where we are able to understand what businesses to support and what not to support.
00:06:57.000By the way, we're getting tons of emails right now, Michael.
00:06:59.000People are shocked about the Starbucks thing.
00:07:31.000Talk more about those things, what you can share, how you're also creating owned and operated businesses, products that the patriots of America can support.
00:07:42.000What we learned as we embarked upon this journey is that there are tens of thousands of incredible conservative-run businesses in this parallel economy for nearly every industry niche you can imagine.
00:07:53.000But there are still a few holes in the market where there's actually a need for a values-aligned competitor to jump into the mix and to solve those problems for consumers.
00:08:02.000So, for example, we learned that every single major diaper company in the United States today is vocally or financially pro-abortion.
00:08:10.000In fact, diaper companies like Coterie, which is one of the nicest diapers money can buy on the market today.
00:08:14.000Coterie last year after the overturning of Roe v. Wade came out and said, and I quote, our team feels lost without abortion access.
00:08:23.000Honest company, Hello Bello, donating to their employees' abortion.
00:08:28.000We said, well, gosh, we need a pro-life diaper company that celebrates the family unit and protects the miracle of every innocent life for company.
00:08:39.000We also recently discovered, for example, that small businesses need a management tool, a CRM to handle their business operations because Salesforce has called itself the most anti-conservative company in the country.
00:08:53.000And in turn, small businesses don't really have a place to go where they can feel cancel-proof.
00:08:58.000On top of that, many of those large enterprise softwares are not built for small businesses.
00:09:02.000Well, we have over 70,000 small businesses.
00:09:04.000So we thought, why don't we launch a management tool?
00:09:07.000So actually this month, Charlie, we're launching PSQ Link, which is a business software management tool that will never cancel you and we'll be proud to support your growth.
00:09:15.000You can go to PSQLink.com to discover more.
00:09:42.000It's a legit thing, but they use the brilliance, the excellence and how seamless their product is against us to hold us hostage.
00:09:51.000Well, I'll just say that while they are an excellent product, one of the challenges that people have with Salesforce is that they really don't care about you if you're a small business.
00:09:58.000If you have less than 25 employees, you're not getting any special attention from Salesforce or Mark Benioff.
00:10:03.000And so this is another example of an ideologically misaligned company because Mark has literally funded lawsuits against President Trump.
00:10:11.000I mean, this guy is, as you described, a Stalinist.
00:10:14.000Not only that, though, they've completely written off America's small business community.
00:10:18.000And I think Public Square has an opportunity to be not only a patriotic economy, but also one that protects the small business and the middle class.
00:10:25.000We have that exposure that nobody else does.
00:10:27.000And so we're proud to bring a tool like PSQ Link to the mix.
00:10:30.000You can go to psqlink.com to learn more.
00:11:42.000Just so if you're a small business owner, it's really important that you guys have a alternative there.
00:11:48.000But also talk about the, if you are a business owner, why you should actively join Public Square, Michael, right?
00:11:54.000Because we have a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of business owners here, and not just business owners.
00:11:58.000If you are, you know, an affiliate, a wealth manager, or a realtor, talk about that too, because there's a lot of sole proprietors that are part of a larger company that, for example, if I'm going to go, you know, redo the tile, you know, in my home, or if I'm going to whatever, get my car fixed, I'm going to go to a sole proprietor or a realtor or an accountant or a financial, you know, a certified finance broker that is a patriot.
00:12:27.000Those industries, especially, Charlie, are where trust is required to the umpteenth degree.
00:12:31.000If I'm going to let a plumber into my house, if I'm going to let an electrician, a contractor, a financial advisor who I'm entrusting my financial future with and my kids' college fund or whatever it might be, if I'm going to partner with those folks, I want to make sure that their values are aligned.
00:12:45.000Actually, Charlie, a real life story from our own life.
00:12:48.000Last week, my family and I moved to West Palm Beach, Florida.
00:12:52.000We were just getting settled and we moved the company there this summer.
00:12:55.000Very exciting times for Public Square if you need the free state of Florida.
00:13:05.000We prefer a licensed MD that will prioritize preventative medicine.
00:13:09.000And so we needed sort of a niche solution.
00:13:11.000We go to the public square platform, we search pediatrician.
00:13:14.000Turns out there's one five miles down the road.
00:13:17.000She ends up doing a house call and she's our child's new pediatrician.
00:13:20.000We feel confident and comfortable because we can trust our values are aligned.
00:13:24.000If you are a business owner that is selling online and retail, coffee, services like plumbing, electrician, realty, et cetera, you're going to find a home at Public Square.
00:13:34.000And you asked in a question, Charlie, you asked why.
00:13:38.000The short answer is: if you look at election data from 2020 and you look at the voters for Trump, the ones that they're at least willing to admit, if you look at that data, you'll find $7 trillion of BDP voted for Donald Trump in 2020.
00:14:02.000If you're a business owner and you want an incredible lucrative opportunity, not just a liberating one, you absolutely should put your products and service out to the parallel economy.
00:14:11.000People need to know that you exist because they're looking for trustworthy transactions and they're looking to put purpose behind their purchases.
00:14:17.000So not only will it feel freeing to feel like you can actually operate with your values without fear of cancellation, but you also have an opportunity for a lucrative endeavor to reach the largest TAM that we've seen in modern history.
00:14:30.000That's why you should join the parallel economy as a small business owner.
00:14:34.000In closing here, Michael, we talked about last hour how Jewish donors are divesting all their money, not all their money, from colleges, that we have to stop funding anything that hates us.
00:14:44.000And some of our audience said, well, that doesn't apply to me.
00:14:49.000And then, like you said, there's also these one-off transactions that are maybe a once-in-a-five-year transaction, home, car, nice vacations, the big ones, right?
00:14:59.000Those especially need to be in alignment with your values.
00:15:03.000If every, if 30 million patriots, okay, and let's just be even more conservative, 10 million patriots, I know there's 10 million of us out there, say no more.
00:15:13.000We're going to use a navigational tool and make sure that we are in harmony with all of our purchasing.
00:15:30.000In fact, we've done a lot of internal data sourcing, looking at modeling what would it look like for that sort of change to happen?
00:15:37.000And at what point do politicians really start to act differently because of consumer purchasing power?
00:15:42.000And we've discovered that between 8 to 12 million patriots fundamentally shifting at least one purchase a day, that one change radically impacts the way that our country incentivizes certain behaviors.
00:15:56.000The reality is for far too long, lobbyists have profited.
00:16:01.000We talked in the last segment about Mark Benioff.
00:16:03.000Mark Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce, famously in 2015, moved his business, pulled business out of Indiana because Indiana supported a religious liberty law.
00:16:12.000Meanwhile, he's proud to do business with the Communist Party of China.
00:16:16.000For far too long, those types of people have profited.
00:16:19.000If we can build a network of patriots that will shift the purchasing power back toward the right types of small businesses that love the country, the Constitution, and the values that that document protects, the country fundamentally changes for the better.
00:16:30.000You don't have to just vote every two and four years.
00:16:35.000And we at Public Square want to help you do that.
00:16:37.000Michael Seifert from PublicSquarePublicSQ.com, download the Public Square app.
00:16:41.000If you want to fight back against what's happening in this country and the trends we're seeing, download the app and then purchase through the app and use it as a tool.
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00:18:27.000Ben, thank you so much for joining the program.
00:18:30.000We are an infiltrated country and we really haven't talked much about Middle Eastern infiltration for a couple of years, right?
00:18:35.000We've talked about Chinese Communist Party infiltration, woke infiltration, but this is a big thing.
00:18:40.000So walk our audience through the administrative state, the bureaucracies, the Biden regime, and how our universities are captured by radical Islamists.
00:18:48.000Well, I think you can see this in the personified in Rob Maui, the State Department envoy to Iran, who has been sidelined, had his security clearances suspended, is under FBI investigation, allegedly for mishandling classified documentation and appears by all accounts to have led, in effect, an Iranian spy ring from the highest levels of the national security and foreign policy apparatus,
00:19:15.000which has also implications for the Defense Department because one of his apparent colleagues who he brought in serves as the chief of staff for the Pentagon's counterterrorism office.
00:19:27.000And Rob Malley, to me, personifies the Western globalist progressive elite who fundamentally hold a worldview.
00:19:37.000And you can see this, obviously, many links in this chain from here to the 1619 project kind of perspective in the world to the broader progressive view of the U.S. as an imperialist, colonialist, occupying civilization responsible for all evil in the world.
00:19:55.000And so global social justice demands turning the world on its head, essentially affirmative action for those who would engage in the beheading of babies, the raping of women, hostage taking of the elderly, including Holocaust survivors.
00:20:13.000And the consequence is that at the top of our elite institutions, from first the Obama-Biden administration and now to the Biden administration, to our elite college campuses, which have celebrating throngs for these barbarians in the very institutions that are supposed to represent the pinnacle of Western civilization, to our cultural influencers in Congress, like Ilhan Omar, for example, on the squad.
00:20:40.000And I wrote the book on this that tried to raise the flag, the warning on this issue several years back, American ingrate Ilhan Omar and the progressive Islamist takeover of the Democratic Party, precisely because the consequence is they contribute to a world where they create the conditions, as one former mayor in the U.S. talked about, for people to destroy.
00:21:01.000They create the conditions that aid and enable the likes of Iran's proxies and other adversaries around the world to grow ascendant and for the West to imperil itself.
00:21:14.000And there are many manifestations of this.
00:21:16.000And as you note, one of them is on open borders, which essentially says that having borders is racist, that we have no right to defend our sovereignty.
00:21:26.000It doesn't matter if they hold anti-American views and want to fundamentally transform that society and do damage to its most fundamental institutions, which are descended from Judeo-Christian values and principles.
00:21:40.000And as a consequence, you have basically an Islamic supremacist veto over policy or potential veto over policy in Europe, given massive immigration from Muslim-majority countries with almost no vetting.
00:21:53.000And the same thing that's occurred in the U.S., although mercifully to a lesser degree, but still more than 2 million people have immigrated since 9-11, which was primarily viewed as an immigration failure from Muslim-majority countries without sufficient vetting for Sharia supremacist ideology.
00:22:10.000And now we see the impact of that, the impacts of the influx of dollars from Qatar and Saudi government-related officials, individuals, and entities that contribute to Middle Eastern department studies departments on college campuses that fuel the kind of sick displays that we have seen.
00:22:28.000And that money has even more corruption when you count the impact on think tanks and these institutions more broadly.
00:22:34.000So we've imported essentially, in many cases, our adversaries' ideology and in some cases, the adversaries themselves.
00:22:41.000And you can see this in any number of prosecutions and foiled jihadist attacks.
00:22:46.000And I fear successful jihadist attacks to come in the West.
00:22:50.000So talk about this red-green axis even more about how the American left and the Islamists are co-sponsors in the destruction of the West.
00:22:59.000Yeah, well, if you look back at the history, and I talk about this in large part in my book, the quote-unquote anti-Zionist sentiment that pervades in the Islamic world was really seeded and fomented and fanned the flames of in large part by actually the Soviet Union going back to the 60s.
00:23:18.000And so, if you look at the backgrounds of Mahmoud Abbas, for example, or Yasser Arafat, or even Saddam Hussein and others, there are myriad ties, deep, inextricable links to the Soviet Union.
00:23:29.000They took the Soviet kind of propaganda and also tactical training in terrorist tactics, and that was an import to the Middle East.
00:23:37.000The Jew hatred has been there for centuries, but the manner in which they have sought to advance their cause and actually align with progressives throughout the West is really something that was in large part fanned the flames of by the Soviet Union.
00:23:53.000Why is it that the left and the Islamists are allies?
00:23:58.000Well, essentially, they have a shared adversary, and that adversary is the Judeo-Christian West.
00:24:05.000You can see this manifest itself in just the fact that, as we've seen, our FBI today targets conservative, patriotic Americans, in many cases, U.S. veterans, as the premier domestic terrorist threat, while at the same time aiding, abetting, and enabling Iran and its proxies, Iran being the world's leading state sponsor of jihad.
00:24:29.000Americans are the enemy to be targeted as purported domestic terrorists.
00:24:33.000Actual terrorists are to be aided, abetted, and enabled.
00:24:37.000And so, the deep-seated aspect of this is shared adversary, ultimately, shared desire to overturn our institutions.
00:24:45.000And they both have a totalitarian scope and drive and ideology to them.
00:24:50.000In the case of Islam, to make the world submit to a totalitarian Sharia law-based ideology, which brooks no dissent, has speech codes, forces people who will not agree to either die or live as third-class citizens.
00:25:05.000And in the West, we have something like a social credit system with American characteristics that's been developing over time.
00:25:12.000But it's a similar ideology of total power for whoever those who desire power is.
00:25:25.000So they make common cause, even though our elites live in their own lifestyles, lives that are completely anathema and antithetical to the Islamic supremacists and that the Islamic supremacists would clearly abhor, but they are okay making common cause with them because they have a shared adversary.
00:25:45.000So, Ben, are you starting to see some schism?
00:25:49.000I mean, we're seeing this with some Jewish donors that are saying they're pulling all their money from these universities because secular Jews and elite Jews have been, I think, turning a blind eye to the, let's just say, clandestine and subterranean Jew hatred and anti-West philosophy by pumping money into some of these institutions.
00:26:09.000And what is so important is this red-green axis is that they're at total odds at some fundamental values.
00:26:16.000I mean, the most obvious one, which is hilarious to isolate, is like the gay lobby and the Hamas.
00:26:22.000They're not exactly, they don't see the world the same way.
00:26:27.000And so, are you starting to see because of this massacre and this butchery, some form of a response from decent-minded Jews, Westerners, of what these institutions have become?
00:26:43.000Well, to your point, among Jews, sort of the less religious that you go, the more and more secular you are, the more generally speaking, I'm speaking in high-level generalities here, but there's a view that essentially Judaism's principles are the principles of the left and that there's an equivalence, a consonance or harmony between them.
00:27:05.000And so, you know, they associate leftism and Judaism.
00:27:09.000And there are political and historical aspects of this as well.
00:27:12.000And the more religious you get, the more conservative, politically conservative you get.
00:27:17.000I am pleasantly surprised to see that you have seen prominent individuals in the academy, in the private sector, and beyond influential heavy hitters, voices that people listen to, who cannot turn away at the savagery and are aghast at what they, I think they realize now they have supported in some instances or they have ignored and been willfully blind to, and that it's unacceptable.
00:27:45.000And that the way you change institutions that become bastions of anti-civilizational, anti-Western Jew hatred and hatred of Judeo-Christian civilization is you defund those institutions, you pull out your support for those institutions publicly, and you make them change.
00:28:02.000And you use whatever tools you have with whatever skills you can bring to bear to change them.
00:28:07.000Now, I will caution, however, let's see what happens in the coming days as the world turns against Israel, as Israel does what it feels it must to defend its national threat.
00:28:17.000And beyond that, there's a generational issue here, too.
00:28:22.000And the generational thing is that if you look, older Jews, including more liberal Jews and less religious Jews, still take a generally more pro-Western.
00:28:33.000And in the past, it would have been kind of anti-communist and generally pro-Israel and broadly, again, pro-Western, liberal, truly liberal position.
00:28:43.000But the younger generations of Jews and tablets done some great work on this are infinitely more progressive and I think infinitely more hardened in their beliefs.
00:28:52.000This may cause psychological shock to some of the useful idiots in this, but I'm curious to see.
00:28:59.000I'm pessimistic about, but let's see what happens in the days ahead when world opinion instantly turns and the elites go back and forget what happened in the news cycle, you know, a week later.
00:32:17.000If this continues into Christmas, they'll remember it.
00:32:19.000What they will remember is whether or not Republicans fought for spending cuts, a closed border, a reformed and deconstructed administrative state.
00:32:58.000I think it's refreshing to have someone to become speaker who did not make it their life's goal to become speaker, a reluctant leader, almost like the order of Cincinnatus that George Washington was from.