The Charlie Kirk Show - The Islamist Infiltration of America with Michael Seifert and Ben Weingarten

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00:00:01.000 Michael Seifert from Public Square.

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00:01:25.000 The Starbucks Unions, that is the Starbucks workers, have come out and they say they stand in solidarity in regards to the attacks on Israel.

00:01:36.000 The Starbucks Workers Union voices support for Hamas after 1,300 Jews were brutally massacred.

00:01:46.000 Joining us now is Michael Seifert from Public Square.

00:01:49.000 We have Michael on a lot.

00:01:50.000 We're honored to partner with him.

00:01:52.000 Michael, welcome to the program.

00:01:54.000 I'm sure there are plenty of coffee companies that you could remind our audience about on publicsq.com and the public square app.

00:02:01.000 Michael, share a little bit about that and the broader vision because again, we see this pattern.

00:02:05.000 Anytime that there is something disgusting, ugly, evil, vile, corporate America works in harmony with the most radical centers.

00:02:12.000 Not all of them, but this one in particular, 9,000 Starbucks baristas expressed, quote, solidarity with Hamas.

00:02:20.000 Michael, your reaction and tell us about alternatives.

00:02:22.000 Well, obviously, this is disheartening to hear.

00:02:25.000 I also think it's kind of ironic because many of those baristas with the purple hair would be thrown off buildings if they were actually in Gaza.

00:02:33.000 So this whole progressives for Palestine thing is so absurd on its face, but the reality is they believe they're in some epic religious battle against oppression.

00:02:42.000 That's what these Starbucks union baristas believe.

00:02:46.000 And it's so far from the truth.

00:02:47.000 But the problem is when they have backing from major organizations like the Union of Starbucks, when these ideas are actually given oxygen to grow their fire by real corporate organizational backers, we have a real problem on our hands.

00:03:04.000 What they're actually saying is that they stand with terrorism.

00:03:08.000 9,000 baristas in the United States.

00:03:10.000 So I think it's an important reminder for consumers to realize that you have power in your dollars.

00:03:15.000 What you spend your money on is what you empower.

00:03:17.000 And what I can tell you confidently is that we have thousands of coffee companies on the public square platform, none of whom support legitimate terrorists.

00:03:25.000 None of them.

00:03:26.000 In fact, they support the very opposite.

00:03:27.000 They support the American economy and the values that have made this country so special.

00:03:31.000 Yes.

00:03:32.000 Like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:03:35.000 So that's what you can find in Public Square as an alternative.

00:03:38.000 Everyone, take out your phone right now, okay?

00:03:41.000 And download the Public Square app.

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00:03:44.000 Download the Public Square app right now.

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00:03:52.000 Michael, you guys have been through a roller coaster the last couple of days, and you are experiencing kind of corporate warfare, I guess you could say.

00:04:01.000 Wall Street at its worst.

00:04:03.000 You guys are building the parallel economy.

00:04:05.000 You're doing a great job.

00:04:06.000 You got millions and millions of people that are finally able to navigate this economy.

00:04:09.000 Again, everyone download the Public Square app, but you're dealing with kind of a short seller issue, aren't you?

00:04:13.000 Now, based this morning, it looks like they're finally having to cover these.

00:04:17.000 you know, not exactly, I'm not a huge fan of short selling.

00:04:20.000 I think it's actually rather scummy.

00:04:23.000 Anyway, that's a separate issue.

00:04:24.000 But Michael, tell us what's going on with Public Square because you guys are getting it from every direction.

00:04:28.000 Well, yes, the positive news is thankfully today we're up 30% because these short sellers with bad intentions are getting exposed.

00:04:36.000 And we have honestly, Charlie, we knew what we were up against.

00:04:40.000 When we went public, we knew that we'd be jumping into the lion's den.

00:04:43.000 And ultimately, we knew that our message would, of course, ruffle feathers on Wall Street.

00:04:48.000 But those feathers need ruffling.

00:04:49.000 This world on Wall Street is so, honestly, it's a spiritual battle.

00:04:55.000 There's no other way to say it.

00:04:56.000 At times, it's demonic.

00:04:57.000 The darkness that you find on Wall Street is appalling, but the light we're trying to bring to that environment and the message we're trying to bring to that environment, we ultimately believe will prevail.

00:05:06.000 What we learned this week is that we have a network of short sellers that are fighting hard against the growth and the strength of the public square platform, and they're doing it on falsehoods, lying blatantly, trying to go out and spread messages like we're out of cash or we're raising money.

00:05:23.000 And we are now needing to cover ourselves that our management has sold, that I have sold when the reality is, and we put this out in a legal statement this morning, none of our management has sold.

00:05:33.000 None of our leadership has sold.

00:05:34.000 None of our executives have sold.

00:05:36.000 We don't need cash.

00:05:37.000 In fact, our balance sheet is strong and we don't need to go raise money from these people that would try to suck us dry on Wall Street.

00:05:43.000 Instead, the parallel economy is not only sustainable, it's strong.

00:05:47.000 Our revenue, for example, grew 300% just in the last quarter.

00:05:52.000 So, Charlie, it's an exciting time in the parallel economy because while the arrows are flying at us, the truth ultimately prevails.

00:05:58.000 And the truth is this: a network of consumers that is larger than any other emerging market the world has seen in modern history has finally said we're done.

00:06:07.000 We're done with woke capital.

00:06:09.000 We're done with progressive corporatism.

00:06:11.000 We're done with selling our souls to countries that hate us.

00:06:14.000 And instead, we're going to prioritize American enterprise, businesses that make our communities strong.

00:06:19.000 And thankfully, not only is that a liberating movement, it's also a lucrative one.

00:06:23.000 So we're pleased to push back on behalf of we the people, and we are just getting started.

00:06:27.000 And you can look at the values of public square at publicsq.com, united in the commitment to freedom and truth, always protecting the family unit, believing in the greatness of this nation, and will always fight to defend it.

00:06:38.000 What I love about public square is anytime there's any one of these corporate controversies, I text Michael, Michael, do we have a safe?

00:06:43.000 Because Liberty Safe is all off the wall.

00:06:44.000 We have Michael come on, right?

00:06:45.000 Coffee and all this.

00:06:46.000 And it's creating the directory, creating the navigational tool where we are able to understand what businesses to support and what not to support.

00:06:57.000 By the way, we're getting tons of emails right now, Michael.

00:06:59.000 People are shocked about the Starbucks thing.

00:07:01.000 I want to make it very clear.

00:07:02.000 It's not Starbucks corporate.

00:07:04.000 Their founder is Jewish.

00:07:05.000 It's the workers, okay?

00:07:07.000 9,000 Starbucks baristas.

00:07:09.000 It is their union.

00:07:10.000 Okay.

00:07:11.000 It is the Starbucks Workers Union that is saying we are pro-Hamas.

00:07:16.000 Hamas is wonderful.

00:07:17.000 All these sorts of different things.

00:07:19.000 And Michael, it seems as if without Public Square, we would be kind of lost in the wilderness of what companies to support.

00:07:26.000 But you guys are also, you have every life, right?

00:07:29.000 Getting owned and operated business.

00:07:31.000 Talk more about those things, what you can share, how you're also creating owned and operated businesses, products that the patriots of America can support.

00:07:41.000 Well, that's exactly right.

00:07:42.000 What we learned as we embarked upon this journey is that there are tens of thousands of incredible conservative-run businesses in this parallel economy for nearly every industry niche you can imagine.

00:07:53.000 But there are still a few holes in the market where there's actually a need for a values-aligned competitor to jump into the mix and to solve those problems for consumers.

00:08:02.000 So, for example, we learned that every single major diaper company in the United States today is vocally or financially pro-abortion.

00:08:10.000 In fact, diaper companies like Coterie, which is one of the nicest diapers money can buy on the market today.

00:08:14.000 Coterie last year after the overturning of Roe v. Wade came out and said, and I quote, our team feels lost without abortion access.

00:08:23.000 Honest company, Hello Bello, donating to their employees' abortion. 0.74

00:08:27.000 So what did we do?

00:08:28.000 We said, well, gosh, we need a pro-life diaper company that celebrates the family unit and protects the miracle of every innocent life for company.

00:08:36.000 So we did, and we launched EveryLife.

00:08:38.000 You can find it at everylife.com.

00:08:39.000 We also recently discovered, for example, that small businesses need a management tool, a CRM to handle their business operations because Salesforce has called itself the most anti-conservative company in the country.

00:08:51.000 Mark Benioff is insane.

00:08:53.000 And in turn, small businesses don't really have a place to go where they can feel cancel-proof.

00:08:58.000 On top of that, many of those large enterprise softwares are not built for small businesses.

00:09:02.000 Well, we have over 70,000 small businesses.

00:09:04.000 So we thought, why don't we launch a management tool?

00:09:07.000 So actually this month, Charlie, we're launching PSQ Link, which is a business software management tool that will never cancel you and we'll be proud to support your growth.

00:09:15.000 You can go to PSQLink.com to discover more.

00:09:17.000 So that's that CRM.

00:09:18.000 I hope everyone understands Mark Benihoff is a Stalinist.

00:09:21.000 That guy is a bad dude.

00:09:23.000 He is an ideological revolutionary.

00:09:26.000 He's the Salesforce guy.

00:09:28.000 And he cancels people.

00:09:30.000 He just cancels people.

00:09:31.000 CRM, this is a huge thing.

00:09:33.000 If we do not have a good CRM in the patriot economy, you're not able to have customer management.

00:09:38.000 You're not able to, I mean, Salesforce, for all their ridiculous, it's a good product.

00:09:42.000 It is.

00:09:42.000 It's a legit thing, but they use the brilliance, the excellence and how seamless their product is against us to hold us hostage.

00:09:51.000 Well, I'll just say that while they are an excellent product, one of the challenges that people have with Salesforce is that they really don't care about you if you're a small business.

00:09:58.000 If you have less than 25 employees, you're not getting any special attention from Salesforce or Mark Benioff.

00:10:03.000 And so this is another example of an ideologically misaligned company because Mark has literally funded lawsuits against President Trump.

00:10:11.000 I mean, this guy is, as you described, a Stalinist.

00:10:14.000 Not only that, though, they've completely written off America's small business community.

00:10:18.000 And I think Public Square has an opportunity to be not only a patriotic economy, but also one that protects the small business and the middle class.

00:10:25.000 We have that exposure that nobody else does.

00:10:27.000 And so we're proud to bring a tool like PSQ Link to the mix.

00:10:30.000 You can go to psqlink.com to learn more.

00:10:30.000 So stay tuned for that.

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00:11:33.000 So, Michael, some people are saying, Charlie, I'm a business owner.

00:11:37.000 How do we join?

00:11:37.000 By the way, a CRM is a customer resource management.

00:11:40.000 Is that what it stands for, right?

00:11:41.000 CRM customer resource management, right?

00:11:42.000 Just so if you're a small business owner, it's really important that you guys have a alternative there.

00:11:48.000 But also talk about the, if you are a business owner, why you should actively join Public Square, Michael, right?

00:11:54.000 Because we have a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of business owners here, and not just business owners.

00:11:58.000 If you are, you know, an affiliate, a wealth manager, or a realtor, talk about that too, because there's a lot of sole proprietors that are part of a larger company that, for example, if I'm going to go, you know, redo the tile, you know, in my home, or if I'm going to whatever, get my car fixed, I'm going to go to a sole proprietor or a realtor or an accountant or a financial, you know, a certified finance broker that is a patriot.

00:12:25.000 Tell us about that, Michael.

00:12:26.000 Well, you nailed it.

00:12:27.000 Those industries, especially, Charlie, are where trust is required to the umpteenth degree.

00:12:31.000 If I'm going to let a plumber into my house, if I'm going to let an electrician, a contractor, a financial advisor who I'm entrusting my financial future with and my kids' college fund or whatever it might be, if I'm going to partner with those folks, I want to make sure that their values are aligned.

00:12:45.000 Actually, Charlie, a real life story from our own life.

00:12:48.000 Last week, my family and I moved to West Palm Beach, Florida.

00:12:52.000 We were just getting settled and we moved the company there this summer.

00:12:55.000 Very exciting times for Public Square if you need the free state of Florida.

00:12:58.000 We needed a pediatrician.

00:12:59.000 My wife and I are very picky, obviously, about the health of our daughter.

00:13:03.000 And we also prefer natural medicine.

00:13:05.000 We prefer a licensed MD that will prioritize preventative medicine.

00:13:09.000 And so we needed sort of a niche solution.

00:13:11.000 We go to the public square platform, we search pediatrician.

00:13:14.000 Turns out there's one five miles down the road.

00:13:17.000 She ends up doing a house call and she's our child's new pediatrician.

00:13:20.000 We feel confident and comfortable because we can trust our values are aligned.

00:13:24.000 If you are a business owner that is selling online and retail, coffee, services like plumbing, electrician, realty, et cetera, you're going to find a home at Public Square.

00:13:34.000 And you asked in a question, Charlie, you asked why.

00:13:36.000 Why is it worth it?

00:13:37.000 Why would you join?

00:13:38.000 The short answer is: if you look at election data from 2020 and you look at the voters for Trump, the ones that they're at least willing to admit, if you look at that data, you'll find $7 trillion of BDP voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

00:13:51.000 $7 trillion.

00:13:53.000 That's the third largest economy in the world by GDP, larger than India, larger than Japan, larger than Germany.

00:14:00.000 And no one is talking to them.

00:14:02.000 If you're a business owner and you want an incredible lucrative opportunity, not just a liberating one, you absolutely should put your products and service out to the parallel economy.

00:14:11.000 People need to know that you exist because they're looking for trustworthy transactions and they're looking to put purpose behind their purchases.

00:14:17.000 So not only will it feel freeing to feel like you can actually operate with your values without fear of cancellation, but you also have an opportunity for a lucrative endeavor to reach the largest TAM that we've seen in modern history.

00:14:30.000 That's why you should join the parallel economy as a small business owner.

00:14:34.000 In closing here, Michael, we talked about last hour how Jewish donors are divesting all their money, not all their money, from colleges, that we have to stop funding anything that hates us.

00:14:44.000 And some of our audience said, well, that doesn't apply to me.

00:14:46.000 I said, hold on, time out.

00:14:47.000 Where do you buy your groceries from?

00:14:49.000 And then, like you said, there's also these one-off transactions that are maybe a once-in-a-five-year transaction, home, car, nice vacations, the big ones, right?

00:14:59.000 Those especially need to be in alignment with your values.

00:15:03.000 If every, if 30 million patriots, okay, and let's just be even more conservative, 10 million patriots, I know there's 10 million of us out there, say no more.

00:15:13.000 We're going to use a navigational tool and make sure that we are in harmony with all of our purchasing.

00:15:19.000 What would that mean for the country?

00:15:20.000 What would that mean for the fight for liberty?

00:15:22.000 Closing thoughts and download the public square, Michael Seifert.

00:15:25.000 Well, Charlie, it would mean that the entire profit center of the United States shifts.

00:15:29.000 It shifts toward we the people.

00:15:30.000 In fact, we've done a lot of internal data sourcing, looking at modeling what would it look like for that sort of change to happen?

00:15:37.000 And at what point do politicians really start to act differently because of consumer purchasing power?

00:15:42.000 And we've discovered that between 8 to 12 million patriots fundamentally shifting at least one purchase a day, that one change radically impacts the way that our country incentivizes certain behaviors.

00:15:56.000 The reality is for far too long, lobbyists have profited.

00:15:59.000 Other countries have profited.

00:16:01.000 We talked in the last segment about Mark Benioff.

00:16:03.000 Mark Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce, famously in 2015, moved his business, pulled business out of Indiana because Indiana supported a religious liberty law.

00:16:12.000 Meanwhile, he's proud to do business with the Communist Party of China.

00:16:16.000 For far too long, those types of people have profited.

00:16:19.000 If we can build a network of patriots that will shift the purchasing power back toward the right types of small businesses that love the country, the Constitution, and the values that that document protects, the country fundamentally changes for the better.

00:16:30.000 You don't have to just vote every two and four years.

00:16:33.000 You can vote every single day.

00:16:35.000 And we at Public Square want to help you do that.

00:16:37.000 Michael Seifert from PublicSquarePublicSQ.com, download the Public Square app.

00:16:41.000 If you want to fight back against what's happening in this country and the trends we're seeing, download the app and then purchase through the app and use it as a tool.

00:16:49.000 Michael, thanks so much.

00:16:50.000 And make those short sellers wrong.

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00:17:59.000 So we talk, we're talking, you know, some people are emailing us and they're saying, hey, Charlie, how does this impact America?

00:18:04.000 We're talking about Israel a lot.

00:18:05.000 It impacts us a lot.

00:18:06.000 Okay.

00:18:07.000 There's so many lessons from the college campus fight to the wokeism flight to fight sleeper cell global day of jihad open borders.

00:18:14.000 There's so much stuff there.

00:18:15.000 But we must acknowledge, and it's a hard thing to swallow, that we are an infiltrated country as well as infiltrated bureaucracies.

00:18:25.000 Joining us now is Benjamin Weigarten.

00:18:27.000 Ben, thank you so much for joining the program.

00:18:30.000 We are an infiltrated country and we really haven't talked much about Middle Eastern infiltration for a couple of years, right?

00:18:35.000 We've talked about Chinese Communist Party infiltration, woke infiltration, but this is a big thing. 0.91

00:18:40.000 So walk our audience through the administrative state, the bureaucracies, the Biden regime, and how our universities are captured by radical Islamists.

00:18:48.000 Well, I think you can see this in the personified in Rob Maui, the State Department envoy to Iran, who has been sidelined, had his security clearances suspended, is under FBI investigation, allegedly for mishandling classified documentation and appears by all accounts to have led, in effect, an Iranian spy ring from the highest levels of the national security and foreign policy apparatus,

00:19:15.000 which has also implications for the Defense Department because one of his apparent colleagues who he brought in serves as the chief of staff for the Pentagon's counterterrorism office.

00:19:27.000 And Rob Malley, to me, personifies the Western globalist progressive elite who fundamentally hold a worldview.

00:19:37.000 And you can see this, obviously, many links in this chain from here to the 1619 project kind of perspective in the world to the broader progressive view of the U.S. as an imperialist, colonialist, occupying civilization responsible for all evil in the world.

00:19:55.000 And so global social justice demands turning the world on its head, essentially affirmative action for those who would engage in the beheading of babies, the raping of women, hostage taking of the elderly, including Holocaust survivors. 0.63

00:20:12.000 There's a consequence to that.

00:20:13.000 And the consequence is that at the top of our elite institutions, from first the Obama-Biden administration and now to the Biden administration, to our elite college campuses, which have celebrating throngs for these barbarians in the very institutions that are supposed to represent the pinnacle of Western civilization, to our cultural influencers in Congress, like Ilhan Omar, for example, on the squad. 0.77

00:20:40.000 And I wrote the book on this that tried to raise the flag, the warning on this issue several years back, American ingrate Ilhan Omar and the progressive Islamist takeover of the Democratic Party, precisely because the consequence is they contribute to a world where they create the conditions, as one former mayor in the U.S. talked about, for people to destroy. 0.90

00:21:01.000 They create the conditions that aid and enable the likes of Iran's proxies and other adversaries around the world to grow ascendant and for the West to imperil itself. 0.91

00:21:14.000 And there are many manifestations of this.

00:21:16.000 And as you note, one of them is on open borders, which essentially says that having borders is racist, that we have no right to defend our sovereignty.

00:21:24.000 Everyone has a right to America.

00:21:26.000 It doesn't matter if they hold anti-American views and want to fundamentally transform that society and do damage to its most fundamental institutions, which are descended from Judeo-Christian values and principles.

00:21:40.000 And as a consequence, you have basically an Islamic supremacist veto over policy or potential veto over policy in Europe, given massive immigration from Muslim-majority countries with almost no vetting. 0.78

00:21:53.000 And the same thing that's occurred in the U.S., although mercifully to a lesser degree, but still more than 2 million people have immigrated since 9-11, which was primarily viewed as an immigration failure from Muslim-majority countries without sufficient vetting for Sharia supremacist ideology.

00:22:10.000 And now we see the impact of that, the impacts of the influx of dollars from Qatar and Saudi government-related officials, individuals, and entities that contribute to Middle Eastern department studies departments on college campuses that fuel the kind of sick displays that we have seen.

00:22:28.000 And that money has even more corruption when you count the impact on think tanks and these institutions more broadly.

00:22:34.000 So we've imported essentially, in many cases, our adversaries' ideology and in some cases, the adversaries themselves.

00:22:41.000 And you can see this in any number of prosecutions and foiled jihadist attacks.

00:22:46.000 And I fear successful jihadist attacks to come in the West.

00:22:50.000 So talk about this red-green axis even more about how the American left and the Islamists are co-sponsors in the destruction of the West. 0.95

00:22:59.000 Yeah, well, if you look back at the history, and I talk about this in large part in my book, the quote-unquote anti-Zionist sentiment that pervades in the Islamic world was really seeded and fomented and fanned the flames of in large part by actually the Soviet Union going back to the 60s.

00:23:18.000 And so, if you look at the backgrounds of Mahmoud Abbas, for example, or Yasser Arafat, or even Saddam Hussein and others, there are myriad ties, deep, inextricable links to the Soviet Union.

00:23:29.000 They took the Soviet kind of propaganda and also tactical training in terrorist tactics, and that was an import to the Middle East.

00:23:37.000 The Jew hatred has been there for centuries, but the manner in which they have sought to advance their cause and actually align with progressives throughout the West is really something that was in large part fanned the flames of by the Soviet Union.

00:23:53.000 Why is it that the left and the Islamists are allies? 0.91

00:23:58.000 Well, essentially, they have a shared adversary, and that adversary is the Judeo-Christian West. 0.83

00:24:05.000 You can see this manifest itself in just the fact that, as we've seen, our FBI today targets conservative, patriotic Americans, in many cases, U.S. veterans, as the premier domestic terrorist threat, while at the same time aiding, abetting, and enabling Iran and its proxies, Iran being the world's leading state sponsor of jihad. 0.65

00:24:27.000 That in a nutshell summarizes it.

00:24:29.000 Americans are the enemy to be targeted as purported domestic terrorists.

00:24:33.000 Actual terrorists are to be aided, abetted, and enabled.

00:24:37.000 And so, the deep-seated aspect of this is shared adversary, ultimately, shared desire to overturn our institutions.

00:24:45.000 And they both have a totalitarian scope and drive and ideology to them.

00:24:50.000 In the case of Islam, to make the world submit to a totalitarian Sharia law-based ideology, which brooks no dissent, has speech codes, forces people who will not agree to either die or live as third-class citizens. 0.98

00:25:05.000 And in the West, we have something like a social credit system with American characteristics that's been developing over time.

00:25:12.000 But it's a similar ideology of total power for whoever those who desire power is.

00:25:18.000 In Islam, it is the theocrats. 1.00

00:25:22.000 And in the West, it's our elites.

00:25:25.000 So they make common cause, even though our elites live in their own lifestyles, lives that are completely anathema and antithetical to the Islamic supremacists and that the Islamic supremacists would clearly abhor, but they are okay making common cause with them because they have a shared adversary.

00:25:43.000 And ultimately, that's the West.

00:25:45.000 So, Ben, are you starting to see some schism?

00:25:49.000 I mean, we're seeing this with some Jewish donors that are saying they're pulling all their money from these universities because secular Jews and elite Jews have been, I think, turning a blind eye to the, let's just say, clandestine and subterranean Jew hatred and anti-West philosophy by pumping money into some of these institutions. 0.54

00:26:09.000 And what is so important is this red-green axis is that they're at total odds at some fundamental values.

00:26:16.000 I mean, the most obvious one, which is hilarious to isolate, is like the gay lobby and the Hamas. 0.94

00:26:22.000 They're not exactly, they don't see the world the same way. 0.76

00:26:26.000 Let's just put it that way.

00:26:27.000 And so, are you starting to see because of this massacre and this butchery, some form of a response from decent-minded Jews, Westerners, of what these institutions have become? 0.91

00:26:43.000 Well, to your point, among Jews, sort of the less religious that you go, the more and more secular you are, the more generally speaking, I'm speaking in high-level generalities here, but there's a view that essentially Judaism's principles are the principles of the left and that there's an equivalence, a consonance or harmony between them.

00:27:05.000 And so, you know, they associate leftism and Judaism.

00:27:09.000 And there are political and historical aspects of this as well.

00:27:12.000 And the more religious you get, the more conservative, politically conservative you get.

00:27:17.000 I am pleasantly surprised to see that you have seen prominent individuals in the academy, in the private sector, and beyond influential heavy hitters, voices that people listen to, who cannot turn away at the savagery and are aghast at what they, I think they realize now they have supported in some instances or they have ignored and been willfully blind to, and that it's unacceptable.

00:27:45.000 And that the way you change institutions that become bastions of anti-civilizational, anti-Western Jew hatred and hatred of Judeo-Christian civilization is you defund those institutions, you pull out your support for those institutions publicly, and you make them change.

00:28:02.000 And you use whatever tools you have with whatever skills you can bring to bear to change them.

00:28:07.000 Now, I will caution, however, let's see what happens in the coming days as the world turns against Israel, as Israel does what it feels it must to defend its national threat. 0.87

00:28:17.000 Yes.

00:28:17.000 And beyond that, there's a generational issue here, too.

00:28:22.000 And the generational thing is that if you look, older Jews, including more liberal Jews and less religious Jews, still take a generally more pro-Western.

00:28:33.000 And in the past, it would have been kind of anti-communist and generally pro-Israel and broadly, again, pro-Western, liberal, truly liberal position.

00:28:43.000 But the younger generations of Jews and tablets done some great work on this are infinitely more progressive and I think infinitely more hardened in their beliefs. 0.99

00:28:52.000 This may cause psychological shock to some of the useful idiots in this, but I'm curious to see. 0.96

00:28:59.000 I'm pessimistic about, but let's see what happens in the days ahead when world opinion instantly turns and the elites go back and forget what happened in the news cycle, you know, a week later. 0.99

00:29:09.000 Ben, excellent work.

00:29:10.000 And check out his book on Elon Omar.

00:29:12.000 It's Elon the Ingrate, right?

00:29:13.000 It's called American Ingrate, Elon Omar, and Progressive Islamists Take Over the Democratic Party. 0.93

00:29:18.000 Elon Omar should be deported from the country and she never should have been let in. 1.00

00:29:22.000 She is an ungrateful anti-American sleeper cell in the American Congress.

00:29:26.000 Thank you so much, Ben. 0.64

00:29:27.000 We appreciate it.

00:29:28.000 Thank you.

00:29:31.000 You know, we still don't have a speaker.

00:29:33.000 We still don't have a speaker in the house.

00:29:35.000 It might be Jim Jordan, everybody.

00:29:38.000 Looks like there's some consolidating forces here.

00:29:41.000 Sources are telling us.

00:29:43.000 That Jim Jordan is looking like the favorite.

00:29:45.000 Steve Scalise is out of the picture.

00:29:48.000 Kevin McCarthy is now backing Jim Jordan for speaker.

00:29:51.000 So his block is looking like it's going towards Jordan.

00:29:56.000 Matt Gates is backing Jim Jordan.

00:30:00.000 This would be a big win, everybody.

00:30:02.000 This would be a very good, this would be a good step.

00:30:05.000 This would be a serious step in the right direction.

00:30:09.000 We've just been so distracted with the Israel news.

00:30:11.000 Understandably, forget we don't have a speaker.

00:30:14.000 Let me tell you, they've got to get this sorted out.

00:30:17.000 I give them till Monday before I start to really lose patience.

00:30:20.000 Come on, guys.

00:30:21.000 We got oversight hearings, running out of time.

00:30:22.000 We've got continuing resolution.

00:30:23.000 We've got a wide open border.

00:30:25.000 Got Jack Smith, Administrative State.

00:30:27.000 You've had your fun.

00:30:27.000 It's about almost two weeks.

00:30:29.000 You got to sort it out.

00:30:30.000 Start cutting deals.

00:30:31.000 You can't get everything you want.

00:30:32.000 Can't let this go on for a month, two months.

00:30:34.000 Give me a break.

00:30:35.000 Okay. 0.99

00:30:35.000 We have political power. 0.99

00:30:37.000 Fine.

00:30:37.000 You got rid of Kevin.

00:30:38.000 Whatever.

00:30:39.000 Get somebody.

00:30:40.000 Jim Jordan.

00:30:40.000 He's a leader.

00:30:41.000 Suck it up. 1.00

00:30:41.000 Get it done. 1.00

00:30:43.000 Get it done.

00:30:44.000 And once you get it done, if it's Jim Jordan, then let's, hey, let's fulfill the mandate.

00:30:48.000 Let's do 12 different continuing resolutions.

00:30:50.000 Let's start pumping them out.

00:30:51.000 No vacations, no weekends.

00:30:53.000 Sorry, guys.

00:30:53.000 You got to work weekends.

00:30:54.000 No more fundraising tours.

00:30:56.000 Jim Jordan is going to have to raise a bunch of money.

00:30:58.000 I think he can.

00:31:00.000 And honestly, good for Kevin McCarthy for getting behind Jim Jordan.

00:31:03.000 And Kevin, I think, is going to work with Jim to raise capital so that we can keep the house.

00:31:06.000 That's great.

00:31:07.000 Kevin is a prolific fundraiser.

00:31:09.000 He recruits candidates.

00:31:12.000 Jim Jordan would be a massive win.

00:31:14.000 It'd be terrific.

00:31:16.000 And then we have the whole Ukraine situation.

00:31:18.000 We have the stuff bubbling up in the Middle East and Israel.

00:31:21.000 We got a lot going on.

00:31:22.000 And we just don't have a speaker.

00:31:24.000 I think that's it's my patience is waning.

00:31:28.000 Let me put it that way.

00:31:29.000 Like enough, guys.

00:31:29.000 Okay.

00:31:30.000 Get behind Jim.

00:31:31.000 He's obviously the frontrunner.

00:31:32.000 Let's go.

00:31:34.000 And it seems as if there's consolidation.

00:31:38.000 My sources are telling me that it looks like Jim is going to squeak this one out.

00:31:42.000 No guarantee.

00:31:44.000 But it looks like we're going to squeak this one out.

00:31:46.000 Now, and by the way, when I mean by squeak one out, I mean like 217 votes, okay?

00:31:53.000 And just remember, we have a three or four seat majority, okay?

00:31:55.000 The only way you get this is by squeaking one out.

00:31:58.000 And the Democrats are enjoying there not being a speaker.

00:32:01.000 And look, just let's just mark down the date.

00:32:07.000 Six months from now, 99% of Americans will forget that there was a motion to vacate in the speaker fight.

00:32:13.000 Okay.

00:32:13.000 No one's going to remember this.

00:32:15.000 They're just not.

00:32:16.000 Okay.

00:32:17.000 If this continues into Christmas, they'll remember it.

00:32:19.000 What they will remember is whether or not Republicans fought for spending cuts, a closed border, a reformed and deconstructed administrative state.

00:32:34.000 That's what they will remember.

00:32:37.000 So it's time to unite.

00:32:38.000 Honestly, good for you, Steve Scalise, for stepping out.

00:32:42.000 He said, look, health issues, don't have the votes, stepped out.

00:32:46.000 And Jim Jordan's the guy I think that can unite the tribes.

00:32:49.000 And you know what I love about Jim Jordan becoming speaker?

00:32:53.000 Jim Jordan's plan was never to become speaker.

00:32:56.000 I think that's really cool.

00:32:58.000 I think it's refreshing to have someone to become speaker who did not make it their life's goal to become speaker, a reluctant leader, almost like the order of Cincinnatus that George Washington was from.

00:33:11.000 Cincinnatus was a Roman general.

00:33:14.000 I don't know if he was counselor or not.

00:33:16.000 Blake would know.

00:33:17.000 In fact, the city of Cincinnati is named after Cincinnatus, fought in the war and then went home to his farm.

00:33:24.000 He was a dictator.

00:33:25.000 Thank you.

00:33:26.000 But dictator meant something different back then.

00:33:28.000 Absolute power, and then he resigned it.

00:33:31.000 Point is servant leadership.

00:33:32.000 George Washington was the closest thing to the Order of Cincinnati.

00:33:35.000 He was part of it.

00:33:36.000 It was actually a club, a group called the Order of Cincinnatis.

00:33:39.000 And he resigned, went back to his home, at Mount Vernon.

00:33:41.000 He's like, I'm done.

00:33:43.000 He's going back.

00:33:45.000 Jim Jordan has that kind of vibe.

00:33:49.000 But now, obviously, Jim Jordan wants the speakership because he's stepping up.

00:33:52.000 He wants it for his country.

00:33:53.000 He wants it for the right reasons.

00:33:54.000 I think that's really cool. 1.00

00:33:56.000 Nancy Pelosi has wanted power for power's sake.

00:33:58.000 Jim Jordan did not want power for power's sake.

00:34:00.000 You would have told Jim Jordan a year ago, you're going to be speaker of the house.

00:34:02.000 He'd be like, What kind of mushrooms have you been eating? is what Jim Jordan would say.

00:34:08.000 A year ago, you tell Jim Jordan, he's going to be speaker of the house.

00:34:12.000 He'd say, What are you?

00:34:13.000 Are you kidding me?

00:34:14.000 How about Emmer or Scalise, Kevin?

00:34:18.000 So you're going to almost have someone who becomes Speaker by mistake, someone with humility and grit and hustle.

00:34:25.000 That might be the breath of fresh air the Republican Party really needs in Congress.

00:34:31.000 I am eager with anticipation.

00:34:33.000 Get this done, cut a deal, and make Jim Jordan speaker.

00:34:39.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:40.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:43.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 13, 2023

The Islamist Infiltration of America with Michael Seifert and Ben Weingarten

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