The Charlie Kirk Show - The Justice System's War on Whites with Helen Andrews and Kane

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00:01:19.000 You know, I got asked the other day by somebody, they said, Charlie, where do you get your news from?

00:01:23.000 I said, I have a new addiction.

00:01:26.000 And, you know, when Drudge went woke, I was like, where do I get my news from and all this?

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00:02:00.000 Citizen Kane from Citizen Free Press.

00:02:02.000 Citizen Kane, how are you doing today?

00:02:04.000 Doing great, brother.

00:02:05.000 Man, I can't help but laugh.

00:02:07.000 I love the intro.

00:02:08.000 It's like you do some of the best commercials that you fit in into your podcast.

00:02:15.000 And I think you do a better, you just did a better one for me than you've done for anyone else.

00:02:21.000 So yeah, so I'm here.

00:02:22.000 I'm ready to win.

00:02:23.000 I'm pissed off, ready to crawl across some broken glass.

00:02:27.000 And so let's get to it.

00:02:28.000 So Kane, yeah, you are on the pulse of the grassroots.

00:02:32.000 Citizen Free Press has millions and millions of page views of people that love their country and they're afraid they're losing it.

00:02:38.000 Kane, I'm going to let you riff here.

00:02:40.000 The Republicans are playing baseball games.

00:02:42.000 They can't even get votes together to censure Adam Schiff.

00:02:44.000 Meanwhile, Donald Trump is facing a 37-count indictment in federal court.

00:02:48.000 Do we have an opposition party here, Kane?

00:02:50.000 I'm fired up.

00:02:51.000 You're fired up.

00:02:52.000 The audience is fired up.

00:02:53.000 Why are Republican leaders not fired up?

00:02:56.000 Kane, your reaction.

00:02:58.000 You know, yeah, let's start with that Adam Schiff vote.

00:03:01.000 You know, not only are they not, are they, they don't seem to be an opposition party.

00:03:06.000 They can't even come together ahead of time and make sure that they've got a bill that they have them, you know, that they have the majority votes that can pass it.

00:03:15.000 You know, I'm a little bit upset with how that entire situation turned out yesterday, and I feel like it's a lack of communication.

00:03:23.000 I saw Anna Paulina Luna communicating with Thomas Massey through Twitter.

00:03:28.000 You know, there should have been meetings.

00:03:30.000 This was a big deal.

00:03:31.000 This got delayed from last week.

00:03:32.000 They had plenty of time in the last seven days to put together a plan, something that they could have gotten those 20 votes off the bench and pass.

00:03:42.000 So, you know, I don't really want to get into the weeds there.

00:03:45.000 You know, Thomas Massey knows the Constitution better than I do, but just on a spiritual level, it pisses me off and it really pisses off the base.

00:03:54.000 There's been stuff going on all day regarding that congressional baseball game.

00:03:59.000 You know, in the past, I've loved to cover that game.

00:04:02.000 You know, I've never forget how it occurred pretty quick, just a couple days after the shooting back several years ago.

00:04:13.000 And anyway, I love covering it.

00:04:14.000 And I didn't even know what happened, actually.

00:04:17.000 Your producer had to remind me right before I came on that that was last night.

00:04:22.000 All right.

00:04:22.000 Yeah.

00:04:22.000 So let's talk about Miami a couple days ago.

00:04:25.000 What, you know, what was noticed there?

00:04:27.000 It was Vivek.

00:04:28.000 You know, Vivek is the man.

00:04:30.000 He's, I feel like, and the base feels like he's moving himself up in the vice presidential possibility ranking here.

00:04:39.000 He's, you know, he's the Andrew Yang of our party.

00:04:41.000 He's, he's, he's an amazing communicator.

00:04:44.000 He has sort of Kerry Lake communication skills, and he goes right into the belly of the beast, goes right into CNN, and blows up Dana Bash.

00:04:52.000 And so I loved, I absolutely loved what Vivek was doing.

00:04:56.000 And you know what?

00:04:57.000 There was no one else.

00:04:58.000 It was crickets, as I'm sure you've been talking about for the last two days.

00:05:02.000 There was no one else there.

00:05:03.000 And I think Vivek really stood out.

00:05:05.000 You know, as for Mike Pence, you know, other than raising money for his PAC, what the heck is he doing?

00:05:12.000 You know, does he like, is he a, is he a, you know, does he enjoy cruelty?

00:05:17.000 Because if he reads any message boards, you know, he's not going to like what he sees.

00:05:23.000 And I, you know, I liked Mike Pence.

00:05:27.000 I, you know, and I know Mark Short a little bit, and these are good people, but I just don't understand what he's, you know, what he's doing.

00:05:35.000 Two separate occasions, sort of going after going after Trump.

00:05:40.000 He's just, it's not, it's not working well.

00:05:43.000 I need to take a breath here, so I'll let you throw something in.

00:05:46.000 No, so, so, Kane, I want to, I want to emphasize one of the things that you mentioned here.

00:05:50.000 So, what a missed opportunity for these candidates not to come down to Miami.

00:05:54.000 First of all, missed opportunity for the country.

00:05:55.000 It would have showed a really powerful response against this indictment, unified, and the administrative state doesn't run the country.

00:06:03.000 Secondly, you look at these candidates that allegedly want to be president.

00:06:06.000 I really doubt some of these people want to be president because if they want to be president, they'd be running different types of campaigns.

00:06:11.000 Maybe they just want to appease donors and not offend people and have long-term corporate board seats.

00:06:16.000 I mean, you could take one at a time, but let's take the most obvious one: Governor DeSantis in his home state could have come in a couple hours.

00:06:23.000 There were 1,000 cameras there, Kane, right?

00:06:26.000 According to Ben Berquam from the Great Real America's Voice, he said he's never seen so much press at a single thing.

00:06:31.000 I mean, that's maybe an exaggeration, but meaning it's like state of the union style press coverage, right?

00:06:36.000 Everyone's there, Reuters, AP, international news agencies, they're all there.

00:06:40.000 They have nothing to do for three hours.

00:06:41.000 They're literally like, you know, playing, you know, playing solitaire on their phone, basically, right?

00:06:46.000 Trying to burn time in the humidity.

00:06:48.000 And any presidential candidate could have worked the sticks and they could have said whatever they want.

00:06:52.000 Okay, I don't like Trump.

00:06:53.000 I don't like this, but this is bad.

00:06:54.000 This is wrong.

00:06:54.000 This is terrible.

00:06:55.000 I just, Kane, I don't understand the calculus.

00:06:57.000 Again, I'm not here to actually give them free political advice because everyone knows my leanings and my affiliation.

00:07:02.000 I'm more concerned, though, outside of the political fumble and blunder and missed opportunity.

00:07:08.000 I don't think it was good to only have Vivek and Trump there.

00:07:12.000 It made it seem as if the administrative state was on to something, right?

00:07:17.000 And it's either the candidates are all afraid of Trump and it shows or they hate Trump so much and they want to hide away from him.

00:07:23.000 Kane, it showed to me that some most any Republican that wasn't there either missed an opportunity and or they're basically in an alliance with the uniparty.

00:07:33.000 Yeah, it's a you made so many great points there.

00:07:36.000 You know, names that pop out, Tim Scott should have been there.

00:07:40.000 You know, Trump likes Tim Scott.

00:07:42.000 Trump welcomed him into the race.

00:07:44.000 You know, Tim Scott is trying to make inroads with the MAGA, with the MAGA crowd.

00:07:50.000 He should have been there.

00:07:51.000 DeSantis, absolutely.

00:07:53.000 You know, that would have been, you know, it would have been an opportunity for DeSantis to really, you know, because, right, there's been a lot of controversy as the two sides have been attacking each other, right?

00:08:04.000 And the DeSantis people feel as though Trump has sort of unfairly personally attacked him, etc., etc.

00:08:11.000 What an opportunity it would have been for him to show, hey, I'm the bigger guy.

00:08:16.000 None of these attacks mean anything.

00:08:18.000 It's just politics, and I'm here to stand up for what's right.

00:08:22.000 And there's no way they should put, you know, they should be attempting to put our candidate, the leading candidate, the highest polling candidate, the candidate who's beating Biden by six points, why they should be putting, attempting to put this guy in jail for the rest of his life.

00:08:40.000 Or as I think you said in your earlier segment, until he's 175 years old.

00:08:45.000 So you're absolutely right.

00:08:46.000 It would have been a fantastic opportunity.

00:08:49.000 It would have earned points with Trump.

00:08:50.000 It would have earned points with America first base.

00:08:55.000 And I think DeSantis blew it.

00:08:57.000 I think Tim Scott blew it.

00:08:58.000 I think Vivek was the huge winner.

00:09:01.000 I think Marjorie probably should have been there.

00:09:04.000 I think there's a lot of people that should have been there, but Tim Scott and Ron DeSantis blew it.

00:09:10.000 There will be more indictments likely.

00:09:12.000 You and I have talked about Georgia for quite some time.

00:09:14.000 And we talked about how Alvin Bragg.

00:09:16.000 I just want to give Kane a shout out here.

00:09:18.000 Kane called me like six weeks ago, and it was like 1 a.m. or something.

00:09:22.000 He said, Charlie, I see it now.

00:09:23.000 He's going to be facing four indictments by Labor Day.

00:09:26.000 I was like, all right, that might be.

00:09:27.000 He was totally right.

00:09:28.000 This is what happens when you consume the news 18 hours a day and you live it.

00:09:32.000 You start to see trends and patterns.

00:09:33.000 Kane, Trump facing more indictments.

00:09:35.000 Yes.

00:09:36.000 And if so, what other indictments came?

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:38.000 And you sell yourself sure.

00:09:40.000 And that 1 a.m. phone call, you were right on it with me.

00:09:43.000 You had been thinking the same thing because we both devour this stuff.

00:09:47.000 So, yeah, there's an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution this morning with a response from Fannie Willis's office in Fulton County commenting on the Letitia James comment in the Pod Save America program yesterday, where she said that she thought all the state cases would have to be put on hold.

00:10:04.000 Fanny Willis's offices said, not so fast, Letitia.

00:10:08.000 So obviously they're not planning it.

00:10:11.000 They're not planning to slow down anything.

00:10:13.000 That indictment is coming in August.

00:10:15.000 She's told the Atlanta police to be ready.

00:10:18.000 So yeah, we've seen that one coming.

00:10:19.000 And then there's probably one more from Jack Smith.

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00:11:35.000 Citizen Kane, I found the clip you were mentioning.

00:11:37.000 It's an extraordinary clip.

00:11:38.000 It's Letitia James, who's the Attorney General of New York, saying that unfortunately, we're going to have a scheduling conflict.

00:11:45.000 And what immediately comes to mind is the obvious thing.

00:11:49.000 Wait a second.

00:11:50.000 I thought justice is justice regardless of scheduling.

00:11:52.000 You guys aren't complaining about scheduling conflicts with January 6th prisoners who are rotting in prison and pretrial detention.

00:11:58.000 You guys are perfectly fine with scheduling errors.

00:12:01.000 This is the key.

00:12:02.000 Letitia James, if you listen carefully, it takes a slight inference.

00:12:05.000 What she is saying is basically, I want the credit for taking Donald Trump off the chessboard before the 2024 election.

00:12:12.000 Is that, is it going to be Fannie Willis?

00:12:14.000 It's going to be federal government.

00:12:15.000 She's saying, unfortunately, we're going to have to table this.

00:12:18.000 Hold on a second.

00:12:19.000 Why does scheduling matter?

00:12:21.000 It's because it's nakedly political.

00:12:23.000 Play cut 77.

00:12:24.000 So in all likelihood, I believe that my case, as well as D.A. Bragg and the Georgia case, will unfortunately have to be adjourned pending the outcome of the federal case.

00:12:39.000 So it all depends upon the scheduling of this particular case.

00:12:44.000 I know there's going to be a flood, a flurry of motions, motions to dismiss discovery issues, all of that.

00:12:49.000 So it really all depends.

00:12:50.000 Are you concerned about that?

00:12:52.000 I think everyone is concerned about that.

00:12:54.000 Everyone is concerned about scheduling.

00:12:56.000 Citizen Kane, your reaction.

00:12:58.000 Yeah, well, when, you know, when virtue signaling is the most important thing among Democrats, this is how it works.

00:13:07.000 These people want to be seen.

00:13:08.000 They want their cases.

00:13:09.000 I think you and I talked about originally several months ago about how Fannie Willis, you know, not sure she could get a conviction in Fulton County.

00:13:18.000 And I put up the demographics.

00:13:19.000 It's, you know, but still she wants the attention.

00:13:22.000 She's going to be a hero on or a heroine on MSNBC and liberal media for a year.

00:13:29.000 Hey, I want to point out something really quick.

00:13:32.000 So there probably aren't that many guests who are posting updates to their websites while they're on the air with you.

00:13:38.000 But I want people to know you mentioned that op-ed you wrote for David Carler about how Trump's numbers continue to grow despite the indictment.

00:13:48.000 Here's why.

00:13:48.000 So I didn't realize you wrote that.

00:13:50.000 I found that on a daily caller during break.

00:13:52.000 I have a link to it.

00:13:53.000 So if your readers want to read that, go to citizenfreepress.com right now.

00:13:58.000 And the very first link at the top will take you directly to Charlie's story straight away.

00:14:03.000 So back to Fannie and, you know, Fanny and what's going down.

00:14:08.000 Obviously, you know, Jack Smith, you know, who are the, these are egos involved, right?

00:14:13.000 We've got Letitia.

00:14:14.000 She wants credit because she was going after Trump two years ago.

00:14:17.000 We've got Alvin Bragg.

00:14:19.000 We've got Jack Smith.

00:14:21.000 We've got Merrick Garland, who popped his head into the arena yesterday.

00:14:25.000 And then we've got Fannie Willis.

00:14:27.000 And I think they all know that they're heroes and they're loving every bit of the attention.

00:14:33.000 And they all want to have the credit for taking out Trump.

00:14:37.000 And so, Kane, I want to ask, you know, the timeline here is, you know, Donald Trump, I think, is solidifying his support in the primary election.

00:14:49.000 It's perplexing to some people.

00:14:51.000 The article we just talked about here.

00:14:53.000 General election, what does this look like?

00:14:55.000 How can Donald Trump use this to benefit him in a general election?

00:14:59.000 Kane, final thoughts?

00:15:01.000 Yeah, that's you, you laid it out perfectly.

00:15:05.000 We've seen the evidence now.

00:15:06.000 One more indictment from Jack Smith or a bogus Rico indictment from Fannie Willis is not going to make a difference.

00:15:13.000 Trump is going to cruise to the primary victory.

00:15:16.000 So what does it mean for the general, right?

00:15:19.000 So there's where you get out the sort of the Ouija board and you put on your Carnac costume from Johnny Carson as your older listeners will remember.

00:15:28.000 You try to see the future, you know, see how independents are reacting to this.

00:15:32.000 And we're going to know more from polls probably in the next month.

00:15:36.000 But my reaction is that, you know, and I'm not blowing smoke here.

00:15:43.000 I think this has not hurt Trump with independence.

00:15:48.000 And I think, if anything, it's a plus, a plus one, plus two, plus three.

00:15:53.000 Because independents have shown themselves in so many of these different types of polls over the last year.

00:15:59.000 And you and I read every single one of them.

00:16:01.000 They've shown that they, you know, surprisingly, they are independent thinking.

00:16:06.000 And I'm often surprised by stuff I'll see, you know, in results from Raspeson or something on the way that independents are viewing an issue.

00:16:13.000 And I honestly believe that they're going to see this as persecution.

00:16:17.000 They're going to see this as a documents mess and that Biden himself has this same document problem.

00:16:23.000 I just think there are too many optics issues for DOJ in this to get a clean sort of public relations victory.

00:16:30.000 And we know they're not, we're not really going to pull Democrats, right?

00:16:33.000 So it's really just about independent voters.

00:16:36.000 And yeah, I don't think it's clean enough, and I think it helps Trump.

00:16:40.000 I agree.

00:16:41.000 Citizen Kane from citizenfreepress.com.

00:16:44.000 Thank you so much.

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00:17:51.000 Joining us now is Helen Andrews, who has a very important piece for the American conservative, Why Jake Gardner Died.

00:18:00.000 White defendants accused of racially sensitive crimes can't assume that the legal system will treat them fairly.

00:18:08.000 I agree completely.

00:18:09.000 She's the senior editor of the American Conservative, and Helen Andrew joins us now.

00:18:13.000 Andrew Andrews joins us now.

00:18:14.000 Helen, welcome to the program.

00:18:15.000 Tell us about your piece and the argument that white defendants can't get a fair hearing in the modern justice system.

00:18:23.000 Thanks, Riley.

00:18:24.000 Just this week, we've seen a grand jury indict Daniel Penny, the young Marine who held Jordan Neely, a threatening mentally ill drug addict, in a chokehold on a New York subway in an attempt to save his fellow passengers from a potential attack from Jordan Neely.

00:18:43.000 This was a young man who was acting as a Good Samaritan, trying to help other people, and he's now being indicted on, we believe, manslaughter charges.

00:18:52.000 So you do the right thing and you get punished by the courts.

00:18:55.000 It seems absurd, but there are echoes of this recent event, the Daniel Penny-Jordan Neely confrontation, in a big story from 2020.

00:19:05.000 And that was Jake Gardner, who was a bar owner in Omaha, Nebraska, who in a similar situation exercised his right to self-defense and caused a young black man called James Skurlock to die.

00:19:17.000 He too was indicted after a very politicized investigation.

00:19:23.000 And he tragically committed suicide on the day he was to hand himself over to police.

00:19:29.000 He did not have any faith in the justice system's ability to treat him fairly.

00:19:33.000 And considering the flimsiness of the indictment that was eventually hammered through against him, you can hardly blame him.

00:19:43.000 So that was a wonderful or a very illustrative story out of 2020, the Jake Gardner tragedy, which is seeing unfortunate echoes just this week with Daniel Penny.

00:19:55.000 So we're seeing this as a pattern and a theme.

00:19:58.000 So talk about the cultural influences here, though.

00:20:01.000 You know, the argument you make is white defendants accused of racially sensitive crimes can't assume that the legal system will treat them fairly is basically the argument you're making that is if you're white and you're involved in any form of altercation against a person of color, that a prosecutor very well might reluctantly indict you.

00:20:21.000 That's exactly right.

00:20:22.000 And that's precisely what happened in Jake Gardner's case when the Douglas County attorney investigated the circumstances of the confrontation between Gardner and James Skurlock.

00:20:36.000 He eventually concluded that there was no reason to file charges against Jake Gardner.

00:20:42.000 The encounter was captured by camera from multiple angles.

00:20:47.000 So it's not as if what happened that night was in dispute.

00:20:50.000 It was clear that Skurlock was attempting to put Gardner in a chokehold.

00:20:56.000 He was probably trying to get his gun, the gun that Gardner had on him.

00:21:01.000 And so the Douglas County Attorney Prosecutor concluded that there was no reason for Gardner to be prosecuted.

00:21:07.000 The reason why a special prosecutor was eventually appointed and a grand jury indictment eventually obtained against Jake Gardner was purely political.

00:21:20.000 There was a lot of social media outcry, a lot of allegations that Jake Gardner was a white supremacist who had gunned down an unarmed black man, a lot of hysteria, and actually a lot of genuine misinformation, to use that term correctly.

00:21:36.000 A lot of lies were spread online about Jake Gardner and his past and his motivations.

00:21:42.000 But those lies snowballed to the point where the officers of the law felt it necessary to appoint a special prosecutor.

00:21:52.000 So the racial hysteria that caused the Jake Gardner-James Skurlock incident to be misrepresented actually had real world consequences, the real world consequences of having charges brought against Gardner that even the prosecutor himself thought should never have been brought.

00:22:12.000 So I was a little unclear as I was prepping for this segment, but I actually added some, I'm 100% clear now, Helen, and it's all fitting.

00:22:21.000 So there's Daniel Penny, who was just indicted in Manhattan, white guy, black individual who died.

00:22:31.000 There's also Daniel Perry, who is in Texas, who got sentenced to 25 years for killing an Austin protester, and he should be pardoned by Greg Abbott.

00:22:43.000 So it's important that there's Daniel Perry and Daniel Penny in unusually similar type stuff.

00:22:48.000 But let's talk about the Manhattan case in particular, Helen.

00:22:51.000 And you've touched on this.

00:22:53.000 Even the mayor of New York is coming out right now and is saying that this probably goes too far.

00:22:58.000 A New York grand jury has indicted Daniel Penny for the death of Jordan Neely.

00:23:04.000 And, you know, what let me ask it this way.

00:23:11.000 If Daniel Penny was a white person, was a black person, do you think this would be news at all?

00:23:18.000 Absolutely not.

00:23:20.000 And you can tell because in restraining Jordan Neely, Daniel Penny was assisted by two other passengers on the same subway car.

00:23:31.000 They can be seen in the video helping him put Neely in a chokehold and then a bear hug.

00:23:37.000 And one of those individuals is a person of color.

00:23:40.000 And no one has fixated on him as the villain.

00:23:43.000 Everyone's looking at Daniel Penny, and it's purely because of the racial optics.

00:23:48.000 There's no question about that.

00:23:50.000 And, you know, we're seeing this in multiple instances.

00:23:53.000 Helen, does this make you less trusting of the American justice system?

00:23:58.000 Because Mike Pence, for example, came out and he said, well, we must just trust our justice system.

00:24:02.000 I don't trust our justice system.

00:24:04.000 I think that if you're a white male and you get into a messy, unclear altercation with a person of color, that the justice system is going to treat you differently.

00:24:15.000 Am I right in thinking that, Helen?

00:24:17.000 Well, of course.

00:24:17.000 And this is the same Manhattan DA who indicted Donald Trump as well.

00:24:21.000 So he's clearly got a very politicized office there.

00:24:25.000 But it's really disheartening to see that once race enters the picture, all rules seem to go out the window.

00:24:31.000 I was reading the New York Times article describing the Daniel Penny indictment published just in the last 24 hours.

00:24:39.000 And the New York Times states, as a matter of record, that Jordan Neely was behaving erratically, but quote, there was no evidence that he had physically attacked anyone.

00:24:50.000 Now, that's simply not true.

00:24:52.000 Daniel Penny describes Jordan Neely throwing his jacket at another passenger.

00:24:56.000 Other people have talked about Neely throwing trash at other passengers.

00:25:00.000 So there clearly was physical confrontation.

00:25:03.000 In addition, of course, to Jordan Neely saying, I don't care if I die, I'm going to kill somebody and other threatening language like that.

00:25:10.000 So the New York Times is misrepresenting one of the most crucial questions of this case, which is did Jordan Neely attack anybody in the minutes before Daniel Penny felt it necessary to restrain him.

00:25:23.000 So it's absolutely, it's infuriating.

00:25:26.000 And if the New York Times feels okay about misrepresenting the facts, I don't see how you as a defendant in that scenario can trust the system to give you a fair trial.

00:25:36.000 And remember, Jordan Neely was also convicted of attempted kidnapping of a seven-year-old, punching a grandma, also on the subway.

00:25:44.000 So, Helen, but you believe you must go on PR offensive on these things.

00:25:48.000 That if you are a white individual that happens to get into one of these messy altercations and there is quote unquote a race card that can be played, that you should go on the PR offensive.

00:25:58.000 What do you mean by that?

00:26:00.000 For years, it has been standard procedure for a defendant in a high-profile case to stay quiet for the duration of a trial.

00:26:09.000 And that rule existed for very good reasons.

00:26:12.000 You don't want to try your case in the court of public opinion.

00:26:16.000 You want to leave the justice system to work itself out dispassionately on the basis of the facts and not through some kind of crazy media storm.

00:26:25.000 That was the way to behave responsibly as a defendant up until about 2020.

00:26:33.000 I think the summer of George Floyd really changed the rules.

00:26:38.000 And I now think if you're a defendant in a case like this that's turning into a media circus, you can't just stay silent and trust the system to work itself out because then you're leaving social media and mass media to be dominated by people who are interested only in stirring up hatred against you,

00:26:59.000 in using you as a tool for advancing their left-wing political agenda, and who are basically, to be very blunt about it, quite willing to lie about you and what happened on the day in question in order to accomplish those goals.

00:27:14.000 So the old rule of staying quiet during a trial made a lot of sense, but I don't think it makes sense anymore.

00:27:20.000 I think that's really wise.

00:27:22.000 And I mean, there was somebody that tested that theory as separate, not involving with race.

00:27:27.000 It's Matt Gates.

00:27:29.000 Matt Gaetz was not under indictment, but he was under very serious investigation by the Department of Justice.

00:27:35.000 And Matt Gates ignored all of his lawyers' advice, and he went on a PR offensive, and he was not indicted.

00:27:42.000 Helen, great job.

00:27:43.000 The American conservative, the war on white people continues, and we're seeing it play out in this terrible case in New York City where a white Marine decided to do the right thing against a black mentally ill criminal.

00:27:58.000 And he wasn't looking at things through race.

00:28:01.000 He doesn't have a racist bone in his body.

00:28:03.000 But if it was just two blacks fighting, it would have just been whatever.

00:28:07.000 We know that as a fact.

00:28:08.000 Why do we know it's a fact?

00:28:09.000 Because there are hundreds of blacks that kill other blacks every single month in this country, and no one cares.

00:28:17.000 But if a white person gets in an altercation with a black person, everyone loses their mind.

00:28:21.000 And now he's facing 15 years for second-degree manslaughter.

00:28:25.000 Helen, thank you so much.

00:28:26.000 Great work.

00:28:27.000 And thank you for your courage to call it out what it is, which is an outright war on white people.

00:28:31.000 Thank you.

00:28:33.000 I'm about to speak to our group of teachers here at the Turning Point Academy Educator Summit about wisdom.

00:28:40.000 You cannot be a good person without wisdom.

00:28:43.000 If you were to ask 100 kids at Harvard, I would love to do this video.

00:28:47.000 Go to Harvard and ask 100 kids, what is wisdom?

00:28:50.000 I would be so curious to hear their answer.

00:28:53.000 Or Stanford, what is wisdom?

00:28:55.000 Wisdom is very simply the knowledge of things that do not change.

00:28:58.000 It is the understanding of things that are eternal.

00:29:01.000 The Declaration was written on principles of wisdom.

00:29:04.000 Laws of nature and nature is God.

00:29:06.000 What is a human being, good and evil?

00:29:09.000 What is the best thing a person can do?

00:29:10.000 Is there a hierarchy to the good?

00:29:12.000 What is courage?

00:29:13.000 What is joy?

00:29:14.000 What is prudence?

00:29:15.000 What is temperance?

00:29:16.000 What is self-control?

00:29:18.000 Is there a God?

00:29:18.000 Are you a God?

00:29:19.000 These are very important questions that people steeped in wisdom can properly answer.

00:29:26.000 How do you get wisdom?

00:29:28.000 Some people say, I get it through life experience.

00:29:29.000 You can get some wisdom through life experience, or you can read and study the texts that lay it all out for you, that answer life's most important, pressing, and eternal questions.

00:29:41.000 One of the most shocking and stunning clips that I've seen on this recently, it's one that I had to rewatch it time and time and time again last night.

00:29:51.000 I'm a big Jeopardy fan.

00:29:52.000 I grew up watching Jeopardy with my grandmother, and I loved it.

00:29:55.000 And I'm not necessarily that good at it.

00:29:58.000 I'm sure Blake could run circles around me with it, but I'm competitive.

00:30:01.000 The problem is the speed, to be able to get it that quick.

00:30:04.000 But so here you have a piece of Jeopardy tape, which I think perfectly captures where we are as a society.

00:30:12.000 We know a bunch of facts, but we have no wisdom.

00:30:18.000 Bunch of facts, but no wisdom.

00:30:20.000 Those are college campuses.

00:30:21.000 Why is there no wisdom on campuses?

00:30:23.000 Because the Bible tells us very clearly that wisdom begins with the fear of the Lord.

00:30:27.000 No God, no wisdom.

00:30:29.000 So here in this Jeopardy clip, it's very short.

00:30:33.000 It's three brainiacs.

00:30:34.000 These are obviously very smart people.

00:30:38.000 They know a lot of facts.

00:30:40.000 They probably have high IQs.

00:30:42.000 But are they wise?

00:30:45.000 I'm not willing to say they're wise or not wise, but it shows a window into probably that they're not wise.

00:30:50.000 By the way, to get on Jeopardy is super hard.

00:30:52.000 I could not get on Jeopardy.

00:30:53.000 Okay.

00:30:53.000 You have to go through testing and you have to, just to get on the stage on Jeopardy is a massive accomplishment.

00:30:59.000 And they deserve credit for that.

00:31:01.000 But here's a question that was, actually, it's not a question.

00:31:03.000 Here's an answer that was presented, and they had to then float the question of which Jeopardy goes.

00:31:08.000 Which, if you would have had 100 people lined up in the 1950s, I'd say 99 of them would know this answer instantaneously.

00:31:20.000 But here you have three brainiacs that know about sub-Saharan African species, or they know about gay activists from the 1960s, or they could spout off poems that no one's ever heard of.

00:31:36.000 But do they know the Lord's Prayer?

00:31:40.000 They probably know Zeus from other Greek gods.

00:31:44.000 I don't know my Greek gods very well.

00:31:45.000 Hades, but I thought Greek god.

00:31:47.000 They probably know Norse theology and okay, Zeus from Athena.

00:31:52.000 Thank you.

00:31:53.000 But do they know the Lord's Prayer?

00:31:55.000 Play cut 78.

00:31:57.000 Matthew 6:9 says, Our Father which art in heaven, this be thy name.

00:32:03.000 Hallowed be thy name.

00:32:05.000 You godless heathens, what is hallowed?

00:32:09.000 Here you have three people that are obviously as bright as you can get.

00:32:14.000 This is the Olympic competition.

00:32:17.000 And they don't know the Lord's Prayer.

00:32:20.000 Yeah, that's a good picture of where we're living through.

00:32:25.000 Why do we have Pride Month?

00:32:26.000 Why do we have all this crap?

00:32:27.000 Why do we have all this nonsense?

00:32:29.000 Your intellectuals don't even know the roots that built the entire civilization.

00:32:33.000 They don't know the basis of your entire existence.

00:32:39.000 When you look around your country and wonder why it's so screwed up, why do kids think that they could be girls when they're boys and boys and they girls?

00:32:47.000 Why do they think men can give birth?

00:32:49.000 Why is it that there's anarchy in the streets?

00:32:52.000 And why is it that just reference this clip where you have three of the quote-unquote smartest people that are in a monetary competition around knowledge and fact spewing?

00:33:06.000 And they are flummoxed, not flummoxed on physics, and they're not confounded by questions of the Greek gods, but on hallowed be thy name.

00:33:16.000 Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

00:33:22.000 I may not have gone to college, but I do know the Lord's Prayer.

00:33:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:30.000 Email us your thoughts.

00:33:31.000 As always, freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:33:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:33:38.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 15, 2023

The Justice System's War on Whites with Helen Andrews and Kane

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