The Charlie Kirk Show - The Karmelo Anthony Aftermath

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00:01:19.000 It is June 10th, 2026.

00:01:22.000 We are here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona, on the nine month anniversary marker of losing Charlie.

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00:02:07.000 Blake, lots of news to get to.

00:02:09.000 Lots of news, but one big story.

00:02:11.000 One huge story.

00:02:12.000 And we fretted about it yesterday.

00:02:15.000 They were going to jury deliberations.

00:02:18.000 We were worried could anything happen?

00:02:19.000 Could they settle for manslaughter?

00:02:21.000 Thankfully, they did not.

00:02:22.000 Very quickly, about three hours, that's quick for a modern trial.

00:02:26.000 The trial in the Carmelo Anthony murder of Austin Metcalf, the jury came back guilty and pretty much immediately sentenced to 35 years in prison.

00:02:38.000 So the real story we have today.

00:02:41.000 Is really what the reason this has taken off because sadly there are thousands of murders in America every year.

00:02:48.000 Some of them we get justice, some of them we don't.

00:02:51.000 But this has caught fire because of how it got viral attention, how many people were defending Carmelo Anthony's actions, defending the indefensible, and continuing to do so, and in fact, getting worse since this verdict came down.

00:03:06.000 Yeah.

00:03:06.000 So, what we really want to do today is dive into those reactions.

00:03:10.000 And candidly, we said it before the show.

00:03:14.000 Our commentary probably can't add a whole heck of a lot because the way that they talk, the things that they say, says it all.

00:03:22.000 So we're just going to start playing the clips and let us know what you think.

00:03:25.000 Send us an email at freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:03:28.000 Let us know what you think about the reaction to a 35 year sentence for a murder.

00:03:36.000 Defending the indefensible, that's what we're seeing.

00:03:38.000 Sot 21.

00:03:39.000 Former prosecutor, this was a legal lynching that happened in this slaughterhouse.

00:03:48.000 This is a slaughterhouse.

00:03:50.000 This is not a courthouse. 1.00

00:03:52.000 This courthouse is designed when you will come here and you look like us to slaughter you. 1.00

00:04:01.000 She calls it a slaughterhouse. 0.99

00:04:02.000 It was a legal lynching. 1.00

00:04:04.000 And she said, You look like us, if you have black skin, well, it's a slaughterhouse for you. 0.99

00:04:11.000 That's interesting. 0.99

00:04:11.000 You know, the slaughterhouse was Carmelo Anthony stabbing Austin Metcalf for no reason. 0.99

00:04:19.000 You know what's interesting about this, too, by the way?

00:04:21.000 We'll keep playing the clips, but just how lies work on the internet in this new modern age that they really believe that he was acting in self defense despite eyewitnesses, despite the video.

00:04:33.000 They believed it was self defense.

00:04:34.000 They believed he was.

00:04:35.000 Some people were saying he was set upon by a mob.

00:04:38.000 He was surrounded, that they would have murdered him if he had not immediately defended himself.

00:04:42.000 We've seen some really outrageous ones.

00:04:46.000 And we've got some of their supporters.

00:04:48.000 They were being interviewed outside the courthouse afterwards.

00:04:50.000 And they were, again, saying things that are practically unbelievable.

00:04:55.000 How about we get this one?

00:04:56.000 What do I tell my children, number 23?

00:04:59.000 What do you want us to do?

00:05:02.000 What do you want us to do at this point?

00:05:04.000 What?

00:05:05.000 I'm lost for it.

00:05:06.000 I don't know what to do.

00:05:07.000 I got five boys.

00:05:08.000 I don't know why.

00:05:09.000 I ain't got nothing to tell him no more.

00:05:11.000 You can't walk away no more.

00:05:13.000 Rest in peace, Trayvon Martin.

00:05:14.000 You can't walk away.

00:05:16.000 He didn't walk away.

00:05:17.000 He stabbed Austin Metcalf.

00:05:20.000 You could walk away.

00:05:21.000 He could have walked away.

00:05:23.000 If he would have walked away, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.

00:05:26.000 I saw a dark joke that, you know, when he's in prison at some point, Carmel Anthony is going to be told by a guard or another prisoner to move, and he's going to do it, and then it will click in his head.

00:05:37.000 It was this easy the whole time.

00:05:38.000 Yeah.

00:05:39.000 Yeah.

00:05:40.000 I mean,.

00:05:41.000 Probably true. 1.00

00:05:43.000 Dominique Alexander, one of his attorneys and a family representative, said that black lives don't matter in Collin County. 0.89

00:05:52.000 It's also absurd. 0.92

00:05:53.000 SOT 24. 0.98

00:05:55.000 But what this process did is shown that black lives do not matter in Collin County. 0.76

00:06:02.000 It showed us that time and time in American history, it has shown us to remove emotions from yet the law.

00:06:10.000 This trial showed that it put emotions over the law.

00:06:16.000 After Trayvon Martin and so many countless names, it has shown us that black life is not safe in Collin County.

00:06:26.000 He's sort of doing his best MLK impersonation there, and it's not working.

00:06:31.000 I mean, it just keeps going on.

00:06:33.000 We have so many.

00:06:34.000 How about this one?

00:06:36.000 Just keeps getting more vile.

00:06:38.000 Clip 25. 0.91

00:06:40.000 Sources have told me that they found Carmelo Anthony guilty of killing that white boy.

00:06:43.000 And honestly, Chet, you can't really expect much in America.

00:06:46.000 I didn't think you would get found guilty, but I'm not surprised by this.

00:06:48.000 When you know what the criminal justice system is and what it's really meant to do, you don't get surprised at outcomes like this. 0.78

00:06:52.000 They'll let that Rick Chow out, but they won't free Carmelo Anthony, a man who actually had his life threatened by two big white boys. 0.67

00:06:58.000 It was me, I've stabbed both of them, but free Carmelo Anthony, man. 0.52

00:07:02.000 He ain't doing nobody. 0.99

00:07:04.000 If you couldn't pick that up, he was swearing multiple times there, insulting Austin Metcalf, insulting his brother, saying, he said there, I would have stabbed both of them. 0.88

00:07:15.000 And that was not an isolated sentiment, actually.

00:07:18.000 Another supporter said that. 0.96

00:07:21.000 They should have also killed Austin Metcalf's twin brother. 0.84

00:07:24.000 Let's have clip 27. 1.00

00:07:39.000 Both of them should have been dead. 0.99

00:07:41.000 Both brothers, if you ask me, if you couldn't quite make that out. 0.99

00:07:45.000 And I think you could hear some people were agreeing with that.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:49.000 And real classy stuff.

00:07:51.000 Real classy stuff.

00:07:52.000 And, you know, it never ceases to amaze me in how many instances somebody gets victimized.

00:08:00.000 A family is brutally and tragically forever changed and altered by the loss of their firstborn son.

00:08:07.000 And somehow they become the villain of the story for some people.

00:08:12.000 Now, I don't think this is widely held, but listen, even some elected officials are talking this way.

00:08:20.000 Cue up the gem, Jasmine Crockett, SOT 30.

00:08:26.000 If a 300 pound man is beating me, like on top of me and beating me down, I'm not limited to fists.

00:08:36.000 You know, I would argue that even the only time we go into things like people's hands being considered deadly weapons is typically like if they're a professional boxer or that kind of stuff.

00:08:46.000 But I think by the time you start getting to like football player, good argument.

00:08:53.000 Good freaking argument.

00:08:54.000 We're not talking about like the golfers. 0.97

00:08:57.000 We're talking about football players, right?

00:08:59.000 Like, This is what they are trained to do is to inflict like serious physical contact.

00:09:05.000 None of that is at all relevant to this instance.

00:09:09.000 At all.

00:09:10.000 That is an elected representative that was within a hair of being the Democrat nominee for Senate in the state of Texas.

00:09:18.000 Oh, we'd have been so lucky if that happened.

00:09:20.000 Literally talking out of arrear.

00:09:22.000 None of that was at all relevant.

00:09:25.000 At all.

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00:12:12.000 So, Blake, give us the backdrop of the Belfast riots.

00:12:18.000 100%.

00:12:19.000 So, a few days ago, we had yet another heinous crime in the UK. 0.94

00:12:24.000 This used to be something that maybe would happen once a decade in the old Britain, but in the new Britain, the UK, as they call it online, they have mass migration. 0.82

00:12:33.000 They're having crimes that I would say we got used to in the US a little while ago, and now they're in Britain where they never needed to have them. 0.89

00:12:41.000 And so, the most recent viral one, A clip and attempted beheading by a recent person granted asylum from Sudan. 0.96

00:12:49.000 Da Sudan.

00:12:51.000 And he tried to decapitate someone. 0.95

00:12:53.000 Very gory video.

00:12:54.000 The person did survive.

00:12:56.000 Well, because they rushed up.

00:12:58.000 Because bystanders hit him with a shovel. 0.96

00:12:59.000 Hit him in the head with a shovel.

00:13:00.000 Interceded. 0.99

00:13:01.000 God bless those people for doing that.

00:13:03.000 But heinous crime, regardless.

00:13:05.000 And this is Belfast.

00:13:06.000 For those who don't remember, Belfast is in Northern Ireland.

00:13:09.000 This is a place where they had the sectarian Catholic versus Protestant divide for decades.

00:13:14.000 And what this means is this is a place where.

00:13:17.000 You have ordinary British people who have more history than the rest of the British Isles with anti violent anti government demonstrations and for lack of a better term, low level insurgency behavior.

00:13:31.000 And they're flexing that muscle again. 0.97

00:13:32.000 They're livid and they started to let's be frank, they started to riot and they know how to riot unlike most native Brits. 1.00

00:13:40.000 Yeah, well, let's go ahead and play a report here that'll sum it all up for you. 1.00

00:13:44.000 SOP 53.

00:13:45.000 There was mayhem on the streets of Belfast, Northern Ireland last night.

00:13:50.000 With a very anti immigrant bent.

00:13:53.000 Masked and hooded men burning families out of their homes, setting on fire stores and other businesses, torching numerous vehicles, including buses, and attacking police.

00:14:02.000 All sparked by the brutal stabbing by a 30 year old Sudanese man, Hali Aludid, of a 44 year old resident of Northern Ireland.

00:14:10.000 What has spurred the violence is the suspect made his way to Northern Ireland from Ireland, a member of the European Union, and was on a five year visa seeking asylum.

00:14:19.000 Critics complain the anger is due to lax policies here.

00:14:23.000 And in other European countries regarding immigration amid calls for a tightening up of who gets into the country.

00:14:29.000 There was a new call from officials for locals not to take to the streets again tonight, along with a doubling up of police deployments to try to maintain calm.

00:14:38.000 So, what he says there with them burning homes, specifically what they were doing is they're all masked up, they know to do that, and they're going after what are called HMOs, which we have those in the U.S., it's a health insurance thing.

00:14:50.000 HMO in the U.K. is House in Multiple Occupation, which is basically a bunch of unrelated people. 0.99

00:14:56.000 Packed into a home because they're migrants, they're asylum seekers. 0.98

00:15:01.000 And so imagine an apartment in your community and they just move four unrelated, you know, young military aged men, as Charlie would like to say, into a home next door because they're asylum seekers like this guy. 1.00

00:15:13.000 And they're torching those. 1.00

00:15:14.000 Yeah.

00:15:15.000 Well, and we have those. 1.00

00:15:16.000 I mean, I used to live in Los Angeles and all the illegals would live four or five families deep into an apartment complex. 0.94

00:15:22.000 31 people in one exile. 0.70

00:15:23.000 Exactly.

00:15:24.000 So this is a common tactic. 0.72

00:15:27.000 Used throughout the world, it turns out, at least throughout the developing world, developed world, when we have migrant crises like this. 1.00

00:15:33.000 So, yeah, they are torching these. 0.97

00:15:34.000 Listen, I'm not calling for violence, so I don't condone or support torching buildings.

00:15:40.000 But here's the deal.

00:15:43.000 When I walked into the office this morning, I said, Good, somebody needs to be upset about this stuff.

00:15:48.000 Like, the UK is so limp wristed and so scared of its own shadow.

00:15:55.000 They need to see real men really pissed off.

00:16:00.000 They need to see that.

00:16:00.000 And guess what?

00:16:01.000 They're going to villainize these men, these are the bad guys.

00:16:04.000 And this is not a clip from the UK, but it's Commonwealth, and it's going to show you exactly the Western progressive mindset when it comes to this stuff.

00:16:15.000 They are more mad at these men that are rightfully and righteously indignant and angry than they are at this Sudanese migrant that tried to behead somebody on the street.

00:16:27.000 Okay? 0.59

00:16:28.000 Let's just show this.

00:16:29.000 They're blaming Elon Musk for this in Australia.

00:16:30.000 52.

00:16:32.000 A violent knife attack by a Sudanese asylum seeker in Belfast on Monday led to a night of riots.

00:16:39.000 And vehicles set alight in the city.

00:16:41.000 Video of the horrific knife attack, which we've chosen not to show, was posted online.

00:16:46.000 Far right agitators then shared the material, using it to stoke racial tensions and push for violent retribution.

00:16:54.000 The UK regulator has powers directing tech companies to remove violent posts and control racially charged responses.

00:17:02.000 But Elon Musk chose instead to double down on inciting rhetoric on his platform. 0.99

00:17:08.000 You are such a fraud. 1.00

00:17:10.000 Whoever that lady is. 1.00

00:17:11.000 So, oh, it's Elon Musk's fault that your cucked politicians invite millions of foreigners from the third world that like to behead people in the streets. 1.00

00:17:22.000 That's Elon Musk's fault. 0.99

00:17:24.000 Oh, and it's also the native born Brits' fault and Northern Irish's fault for getting upset that you've done this to them, that you've transformed their society over the course of a couple of years.

00:17:36.000 Up yours, lady.

00:17:37.000 Seriously. 1.00

00:17:39.000 Listen to yourself. 0.96

00:17:41.000 The liberal mind is a freaking marvel, honestly. 0.96

00:17:46.000 I don't know how she said all those words together and didn't catch herself. 0.98

00:17:52.000 That's Elon Musk's fault that he was trying to behead this Northern Irishman in the streets.

00:18:00.000 Absolutely infuriating.

00:18:01.000 But this is what's happening across the West.

00:18:03.000 This is what we're dealing with.

00:18:05.000 Our societies have been absolutely transformed through mass migration, invasion levels of migration.

00:18:12.000 And Blake's the history student here, but I can't help but think of the Viking invasions of the Isles and what they put up with and what they mounted to fight off the invaders.

00:18:22.000 And then you compare that to this.

00:18:23.000 I mean, Britons, they fought off Hitler, they fought off Napoleon, they fought off every attempt to conquer them for a thousand years, going back to the Battle of Eusten.

00:18:32.000 And now they say, invade me harder, Daddy.

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00:19:51.000 We have a great guest on the show now.

00:19:54.000 It's one of Charlie's favorite guests.

00:19:56.000 And that is Vince Everett Ellison.

00:19:58.000 He is the author of The End of Tolerance.

00:20:01.000 He is a, I believe, a real civil rights leader in this country.

00:20:05.000 Vince, welcome back to the show.

00:20:07.000 It's great to see you.

00:20:08.000 Andrew, it's so good to see you again, brother.

00:20:10.000 How are you doing?

00:20:11.000 I'm doing great.

00:20:12.000 You know, it's nine months since we lost Charlie, so a little bit somber in that way, but it's wonderful to see your face.

00:20:20.000 And you helped me remember all the good times and when you came on the show with Charlie, and you guys would get in some trouble together, which was always a lot of fun.

00:20:32.000 I got a lot of fun, man.

00:20:33.000 You remember when I last saw Charlie?

00:20:36.000 You were with me.

00:20:37.000 And he told me you had my back, but nobody else did.

00:20:40.000 So we don't back down, Andrew.

00:20:43.000 Me, you are, Charlie.

00:20:44.000 We don't back down.

00:20:45.000 That's right.

00:20:46.000 Well, listen, I mean, there's a lot of stuff in the news that made me think about you this morning.

00:20:51.000 And obviously, first and foremost is the Carmelo Anthony verdict.

00:20:55.000 We spent the whole first segment, Vince, playing these deranged reactions to the verdict.

00:21:02.000 And I just couldn't believe it.

00:21:03.000 It was like they are reading.

00:21:05.000 A different script.

00:21:07.000 They're reading different facts.

00:21:09.000 They all think that this was self defense, that these huge, you know, 300 pound football players were trying to kill him and he tried to run away and he accidentally impaled himself on a self defensive weapon.

00:21:22.000 But some have been saying, We wish both of the Metcalf brothers had been killed.

00:21:27.000 We have a clip, it's a minute long.

00:21:28.000 We could play it if we want, but it's they're bullying his family as they leave the courthouse.

00:21:32.000 As they're leaving the courthouse.

00:21:34.000 Yeah.

00:21:35.000 Yeah.

00:21:35.000 Let's get your reaction first and then we'll play that clip.

00:21:37.000 Vince, what do you make of this?

00:21:39.000 I mean, it's like two different realities.

00:21:41.000 Andrew, it's one of the saddest things I've ever seen.

00:21:43.000 I remember when I was with you guys about two months ago, we were down in Phoenix.

00:21:48.000 I was talking to a lot of the people there, and a lot of them were my peers.

00:21:51.000 We're about the same age.

00:21:52.000 And we were aghast.

00:21:54.000 You know, a lot of them were white men, and, you know, I'm a black guy. 0.55

00:21:57.000 We were aghast at the racial tension because we kind of started going to school during the time when schools were integrated back in the late 60s, early 70s.

00:22:06.000 And we talked about how we just got along fine, how we played football together, how we played basketball together.

00:22:12.000 Now there was very little racial strife in the community then.

00:22:15.000 And people were thinking that we were going to be the ones fighting and hurting each other, but we weren't.

00:22:19.000 And we're amazed that our grandchildren have more racial strife than we had 50 years ago. 0.62

00:22:26.000 They've gendered up.

00:22:28.000 And you remember when it started happening after Barack Obama, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, every incident they could find, they used it to tell this new American generation that they were in a racist nation, that white Americans hated them, and it's really nothing.

00:22:45.000 That we can do on this side, it might be something, but it's but every time we try to try to try to reconcile, try to bring people together under this banner of Americanism and Christianity and love, they're going to find something the smallest thing that they can find to throw gasoline on a fire and they're going to gaslight people and lie to people because the only thing they have is hatred, envy, and strife.

00:23:08.000 This is all they have.

00:23:10.000 They have to make the people believe that in America they're hated to keep them in fear, keep them in envy, keep them in strife.

00:23:17.000 That's their game.

00:23:18.000 Ever since the Civil War, that's been the left and the Democrats' party's game, and they haven't stopped playing it for the last 150 years.

00:23:25.000 Man, I just, you speak with such moral clarity, Vince.

00:23:29.000 It's refreshing.

00:23:31.000 So, this is what you're talking about.

00:23:32.000 This is a clip of this, and we will play the harassing the family clip in just a second, but SOT 32.

00:23:39.000 Collin County, Dallas, Texas, Arlington, Grand Perry, Irving, Downward, Plano, Denton, Keller. 0.82

00:23:47.000 It ain't safe for none of you white folks to come out this weekend. 0.97

00:23:51.000 I'm giving y'all a fair warning right now. 0.91

00:23:53.000 And guess what?

00:23:54.000 It's going to be a bunch of.

00:23:56.000 Outside that look like me, and we ain't out there with no pocket knives.

00:23:59.000 We out there with these.

00:24:00.000 I guarantee y'all, y'all gonna pay for what that judge just did to Carmelo.

00:24:05.000 If you don't believe me, bring y'all bold out this weekend and put on your Austin Macau shirts and see what happened to you. 0.99

00:24:13.000 So there's a black man just openly threatening all white people. 0.99

00:24:20.000 All white people don't come out of your house, it's not safe. 1.00

00:24:22.000 They're gonna inflict bodily harm or worse. 0.99

00:24:27.000 And so that's that's That's the vibe in certain segments of the internet right now, Vince. 0.88

00:24:32.000 That is so disgusting.

00:24:34.000 It is weird to watch this, Andrew, because I can recall, I can't recall, I'm reading history, and we all see the old grainy black and white footage of the Civil Rights Movement and how the old KKK and the old racist Democrats were back then, and how we want to try to elevate and change that. 0.97

00:24:53.000 It looked like America did a very good job at doing that, but it's like there's a part of the black community that's turned into what we've hated. 0.96

00:25:01.000 This racist, ignorant, violent group of people who look at everything through the prism of race. 0.96

00:25:08.000 It's like a boomerang effect where it is this class of African Americans, mostly on the left, who mirror exactly who the old racist Democrat KKK was back before 1970 in the South. 1.00

00:25:24.000 Hatred, envy, strife, anger, vitriol. 0.85

00:25:31.000 Everything through the prism of race and extreme violence.

00:25:35.000 So we've gotten a culture, and I think that this hip-hop music and this gangster rap has kind of pushed it and kind of permeated it. 0.90

00:25:45.000 And when you see Sharpton and Ben Crump and Pastor Bryant and a lot of these black preachers, they push this ideology of hatred, envy, and revenge. 0.68

00:25:58.000 And they talk about violence, hurting people. 0.99

00:26:03.000 Taking revenge, killing people.

00:26:06.000 It'll come from the pulpit. 0.97

00:26:08.000 In my first book, The Iron Triangle, I talk about how this black liberation theology in the church wants to use the black church as a political arm, which, as you and I both know, that when you talk about politics, you're talking about violence by the barrel of a gun. 0.60

00:26:21.000 That's all politics is, it's force. 0.69

00:26:23.000 So they want to now turn the black community to cannon fodder again for them to go out in the streets and call racial strife to make the world believe that America is this racist, evil nation, something that it's not.

00:26:36.000 We have black people in America live better than any other black group in the world in the history of the world We have more money have more freedom have a better education of greater of greater incomes But they have led us to believe in large segments of the American population that we've been discriminated against We've been hurt and we'll be maligned It's difficult to see that when everybody we have an obesity problem in the black community, right?

00:27:00.000 Everybody has an iPhone Everybody has housing and everybody has cars everybody has free medical care Everybody has an EBT card.

00:27:07.000 You have what you want, but you're still angry.

00:27:09.000 Where does that come from?

00:27:11.000 It's a satanic influence, and it comes from the left.

00:27:14.000 I love that, Vince.

00:27:15.000 I love that line.

00:27:16.000 I've used it myself that we should look at it.

00:27:19.000 Black Americans live better than blacks anywhere else in the world, in Africa, in the rest of America.

00:27:27.000 And it's a remarkable achievement. 1.00

00:27:29.000 And I really like that point about the cultural rot because I think about how it's led to this horrible tragedy in Texas.

00:27:35.000 As we've said, it's so unnecessary, but it's a pattern that we have seen that what Carmelo Anthony did is he went into a situation to essentially create trouble.

00:27:46.000 He went where he wasn't supposed to be, and when he was asked to leave, he Refused and immediately escalated to maximal violence.

00:27:53.000 And I just thought how we see that we play that we see that play out on subway cars, on buses, when someone is playing music really loudly when they're not supposed to, or maybe they're smoking weed in a train car and you're not supposed to do that, doing something and almost daring someone to ask you to stop.

00:28:14.000 And then they escalate and we get horrific violence.

00:28:16.000 And that's a cultural rot problem.

00:28:18.000 We need to communicate, and that would start.

00:28:20.000 From parents, it would start from religious leaders, and it would start from community leaders to say, This is unacceptable behavior.

00:28:27.000 And if you do this, you will be shamed, you will be shunned, and if you lash out, you will be arrested. 0.79

00:28:35.000 And that will, in the long run, save lives and it will keep black men out of prison. 0.93

00:28:41.000 It will improve their lives.

00:28:44.000 Well, Andrew, you and I both are believers, and we read our Bibles and we live our lives by it.

00:28:50.000 And one of the things our Bible tells us, us is that uh, God hates pride. 0.87

00:28:54.000 Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, but right now, in june, they we have a whole month celebrating what gay pride uh, we have. 0.71

00:29:02.000 We'll walk around, talk about black pride, and it's a, it's a sin that God hates. 0.98

00:29:07.000 But they use it in a in, in a way, and you know, Satan is crafty right, he'll take something that's negative and make it a positive. 0.91

00:29:15.000 So he, he's taken pride, which is something that God hates, and he's made it a positive in the black community and, i'm sure, in the gay community also.

00:29:22.000 Black pride, gay pride, and these men walk around proud, You know, and what's the opposite of pride?

00:29:30.000 It's humility, it's humbleness, it's manners, it's de escalation.

00:29:36.000 It's what I've learned as a man growing up, and I know that you do too.

00:29:39.000 That if, you know, I'm not going to argue with you over a parking space.

00:29:42.000 If I'm pulling in and you say, hey, man, that's my space, I'm saying, hey, brother, it's yours.

00:29:47.000 Anything I get, are we okay?

00:29:49.000 Yeah, we're fine.

00:29:50.000 I'm not going to argue with you about a seat on a bus.

00:29:53.000 If you want it, I'll get them to say, brother, you can have it.

00:29:55.000 Are we all right?

00:29:56.000 Yes, we're okay.

00:29:57.000 Okay.

00:29:58.000 If I bump into you, I'm going to say, hey, man, I'm sorry.

00:30:01.000 I apologize.

00:30:02.000 Is there anything I can do to make it right?

00:30:04.000 Deescalate.

00:30:05.000 Be humble, but they don't want to do it.

00:30:06.000 It's because you have a right view of theology, of your faith.

00:30:10.000 You understand your relation to your heavenly father and you come under him.

00:30:14.000 You understand that.

00:30:16.000 And that's the problem. 0.98

00:30:17.000 You talk about the progressive church, the black church.

00:30:20.000 A lot of these bad ideas are getting spun up there, but there's more.

00:30:23.000 I just got to play one other clip here, Vince.

00:30:27.000 And because, you know, we talked about the family getting harassed.

00:30:31.000 So let's go ahead and play the family getting harassed, actually, first.

00:30:34.000 And that is 48.

00:30:35.000 48.

00:30:36.000 I'm glad Austin did.

00:30:49.000 I want you guys to know that I am six foot even.

00:30:53.000 My phone is at my head.

00:30:55.000 And the guy in the back is his brother.

00:31:02.000 Carmelo Anthony was five feet nine, five feet eight, something like that.

00:31:09.000 So you had two of those people standing over him.

00:31:13.000 You said at nine o'clock.

00:31:16.000 You said at nine o'clock.

00:31:19.000 Everybody is pressed.

00:31:20.000 You have freedom of press.

00:31:21.000 It's the First Amendment.

00:31:26.000 They said, I'm glad Austin's dead. 1.00

00:31:30.000 Your son was a bully. 0.68

00:31:32.000 And we don't have a video of this, but we've heard reports that the family was targeted by swattings multiple times.

00:31:39.000 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 And, you know, his father, Jeff, just said, you know, I forgave you day one, but, you know, you have basically ended the man that I was. 0.99

00:31:51.000 That man no longer exists because you can't look me in the eye, but you can kill my effing son. 0.97

00:31:57.000 And really tragic. 0.98

00:31:59.000 And then for them to be hurled all this abuse upon them, it's just heartbreaking to watch.

00:32:05.000 I got to get your reaction here, though, Vince, on Jasmine Crockett. 0.98

00:32:09.000 Because you were talking about this victim mentality, and nobody exhibits this more profoundly, I think, and dumbly, stupidly, than Rep Crockett. 0.98

00:32:21.000 Okay? 0.98

00:32:22.000 31. 1.00

00:32:24.000 Black women, especially black women who have black male. 0.99

00:32:30.000 Children live in fear and agony every single day. 0.99

00:32:38.000 A fear and agony that I promise you the Metcalfe's probably never spent a day living that way.

00:32:47.000 And we're going to have to have just some real conversations about race in this country.

00:32:51.000 So that is, I don't know.

00:32:53.000 Vince, your reaction.

00:32:55.000 Well, as a Christian, Charlie, I know my Bible says 365 times in it for every day of the year to fear not.

00:33:01.000 It's not a suggestion, it's a commandment.

00:33:04.000 If you say that you're walking around the United States of America in fear, you're not a Christian because you're disobeying God.

00:33:09.000 It's a commandment that we fear not.

00:33:11.000 And as a man, I'm not going to walk around in my country being afraid of anyone.

00:33:16.000 Fear is a state of mind.

00:33:18.000 And what they do is they put these artificial barriers in front of you.

00:33:22.000 They tell you to be afraid of things that do not exist.

00:33:26.000 They walk around white Americans believing that every white person they see is sitting there saying, it is my goal in life to make Tyrone Johnson's life a living hell. 0.99

00:33:35.000 That you guys are sitting around like the Legion of Doom plotting to destroy every black man that you see. 0.99

00:33:41.000 It is an imaginary. 0.99

00:33:42.000 It is a narcissism. 1.00

00:33:44.000 It is ridiculous. 0.99

00:33:45.000 Nevertheless, when you're told from the pulpit, when you're told from all these civil rights groups, and when you're told from black politicians, the highest people in our society, that this is what's going on, to a people that are isolated in these segregated black districts, in these segregated schools, in these ghettos. 0.99

00:34:06.000 Amongst all of these race-baden cowards that make me sick, this is what they hear. 0.98

00:34:12.000 It is in their music, it is in their culture, it is in their churches. 0.97

00:34:15.000 And this is why TPUSA is so important.

00:34:18.000 You want a few organizations out there that are putting people out there like me to go out there every day and tell the truth about this.

00:34:27.000 You know, we go out there and we tell the truth.

00:34:31.000 You give people like me platforms to go out there and tell the truth.

00:34:35.000 And because of this, we are changing the whole conversation.

00:34:39.000 You saw what happened in the past election.

00:34:43.000 Our side doubled our percentage of the African-american vote and even though our president is losing support in most of America, he's gaining it on the black side.

00:34:53.000 Why?

00:34:54.000 Because you guys are giving people like me a platform to go out there and talk to the masses and tell the truth, and they're responding to it.

00:35:01.000 See, we tell the truth and they lie, and when we tell the truth, their lies have to dissipate.

00:35:07.000 So in America you can have anything that you want.

00:35:10.000 If you're willing to work for it, if you're willing to be honest and if you're willing to go out there and compete, you'll be fine.

00:35:16.000 They don't want you to believe that.

00:35:17.000 If you don't believe that, they're done.

00:35:19.000 Well said, my friend, and God bless you for that.

00:35:22.000 I'm tempted, I had to play this clip.

00:35:24.000 I've been going back and forth on it.

00:35:25.000 This is from the SBLC hearing yesterday with Alvita King.

00:35:30.000 She asked about a question.

00:35:31.000 I figured it's a little full circle moment for us here.

00:35:35.000 Sop 47.

00:35:36.000 You knew Charlie Kirk and his work, didn't you?

00:35:39.000 I did know Charlie Kirk.

00:35:40.000 And his work, like your work, was about love, people getting along.

00:35:47.000 But it was also about teaching of the benefits of faith, wasn't it?

00:35:50.000 I was able to make some peace with Charlie before he was killed because he said some bad things about my uncle.

00:35:56.000 I didn't like it.

00:35:57.000 I was upset and I said, Charlie, but one of the last things Charlie said to an African American young man, he says, Our DNA makes us the same, not this skin.

00:36:05.000 Charlie actually said that and he publicly apologized at a meeting where I was.

00:36:11.000 So Charlie was not an angel.

00:36:12.000 I'm definitely not an angel.

00:36:14.000 President Trump, Biden, Obama, angels, please raise your hand right now.

00:36:19.000 If you're out there, I need to meet you.

00:36:22.000 I actually thought that was a gracious moment from Alvita King, you know, because obviously Charlie had some strong opinions about MLK.

00:36:31.000 You shared some of those events, but so that would be a very personal moment for Alvita.

00:36:38.000 I understand that, but she was gracious about it.

00:36:41.000 Floor is yours, my friend.

00:36:42.000 Well, you know, Charlie just told the truth, just like I do. 0.88

00:36:45.000 And what we do is we look at the black community, and we're looking at things like this that happen in the black community where we've turned ourselves over. 0.98

00:36:53.000 To savages to educate our children. 0.99

00:36:56.000 You and I both know you don't turn your children over to the state to have your children educated, Christian children educated, because the state is secular and it's going to teach you their secular ways. 0.74

00:37:05.000 And because of that, our children now are in a public educational system that teaches them that they're victims, that teaches them this intersectionality that Charlie talks about, that teaches them that America is a racist nation, that teaches them that in the nation of your birth, you are less than, that this nation is irredeemable.

00:37:25.000 That when you go out and try your best, you still can't make it.

00:37:28.000 And all of that is a lie. 0.90

00:37:30.000 Instead of putting together government programs that control the black community and control America, we should have been telling government to step back and turn us over to Christ, turn us over to our churches, turn us over to our synagogues. 0.83

00:37:42.000 This is where we want to go.

00:37:43.000 Turn us over to family.

00:37:45.000 Instead, we have a group of people who are controlling the black community and are telling them every single solitary day, every single solitary day, that they don't have their boot list.

00:37:56.000 They're discriminated against. 0.99

00:37:57.000 They're hated.

00:37:58.000 And that to turn to government for everything that they need and to not turn to God.

00:38:05.000 That is why Charlie Kirk said what he said about the civil rights movement.

00:38:07.000 And that's why I say it today.

00:38:09.000 And I'm glad that many other people started to catch on because of Charlie Kirk and because he was so brave to tell the truth.

00:38:14.000 Now you'll see the cottage industry.

00:38:16.000 And we're going to move on.

00:38:17.000 Thank you for joining us today.

00:38:19.000 So good to see you, my friend.

00:38:21.000 We'll see you soon.

00:38:21.000 God bless you.

00:38:22.000 Hell me back anytime.

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00:40:04.000 We've got a great guest in store for you, and she is now going to be advancing to the runoff election for the next governor of South Carolina, and that's Pamela Evett.

00:40:15.000 She wins this very Crowded field of a race in South Carolina.

00:40:21.000 She's joining us now.

00:40:22.000 Pamela Evitt, welcome to the show.

00:40:23.000 Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt.

00:40:25.000 Well, thank you so much for having me.

00:40:28.000 It was a great night last night, and you're right, it was a crowded field.

00:40:33.000 But, you know, we did a lot of grassroots, something that I know Charlie Kirk did really well.

00:40:39.000 You know, getting out, we got to all 46 counties between July and December of last year, shaking hands, talking to people, having great dialogue.

00:40:48.000 And the rural counties came out for me, and And so we're going to do as much as we can in the next two weeks.

00:40:55.000 Our runoff cycle is pretty tight, but it works good.

00:40:59.000 Talking to people and asking for their vote works.

00:41:02.000 Yeah, this is amazing, though.

00:41:03.000 I mean, look at this field that you were up against.

00:41:08.000 Alan Wilson, right?

00:41:09.000 Of course, who's going to be in the runoff with you.

00:41:11.000 Ralph Norman, a lot of people know and love Ralph.

00:41:15.000 Nancy Mace.

00:41:16.000 I mean, this is so when people look at that and it was, you got almost 30% of the vote.

00:41:22.000 Is a crowded field with a lot of heavyweight power, and you pulled it off.

00:41:26.000 You actually secured President Trump's endorsement, so congratulations on that.

00:41:31.000 Why do you think ultimately you were able to get that endorsement from President Trump, turn to an action?

00:41:37.000 What set you apart here, Pamela?

00:41:39.000 Well, you know, the president getting his endorsement was such an honor and incredibly humbling, but he said it really well.

00:41:46.000 He said, You know, you're a businesswoman, you've been with me from the beginning, and you're the only one in this field.

00:41:53.000 He said, I know all the people running.

00:41:54.000 And you're the only one that can bring the American First agenda and keep it alive and well in South Carolina, eliminating state income tax, getting rid of useless regulations, making sure our judges are elected the right way.

00:42:08.000 He said, You have the business sense, you have the political sense.

00:42:12.000 And he called me last night and said, You know, great job, and that he was going to do everything he could to get me over this finish line.

00:42:20.000 We were going to win the runoff and win big.

00:42:22.000 Wow.

00:42:23.000 I mean, that's a huge deal, especially in such a crowded.

00:42:26.000 Field here.

00:42:28.000 So tell the audience that maybe is still getting to know you for the first time here, what is your backstory?

00:42:33.000 You mentioned businesswoman.

00:42:35.000 Tell us a little bit about your origin story here.

00:42:38.000 Obviously, you're the lieutenant governor currently, but.

00:42:41.000 Yeah, that's just the smallest part of my life.

00:42:44.000 You know, I said I've held a lot of titles over my life.

00:42:46.000 Being a mom and a wife is the best title I've ever had.

00:42:50.000 But, you know, I'm an accountant by trade, I'm an entrepreneur at heart.

00:42:54.000 I started a payroll HR company from an office in my home and grew it into a national company.

00:43:00.000 I was just really excited about President Trump jumping into the arena when it came to being president.

00:43:09.000 I started supporting him right away because I.

00:43:12.000 We didn't need any more career politicians.

00:43:14.000 We needed a business person who could come in and understand what we were going through.

00:43:18.000 And that's how Governor McMaster and I met.

00:43:21.000 Also, a longtime supporter of the president.

00:43:25.000 I'm the first lieutenant governor ever elected with a governor here in South Carolina.

00:43:30.000 And so the governor called me one day and asked me to come and talk to him.

00:43:34.000 And when I asked him why he wanted me to be his running mate, he said, because I want a business person, somebody who has signed the front of paychecks, who understands when government gets too big and too bloated.

00:43:45.000 Gets too deep into people's lives, it's really bad.

00:43:49.000 And he goes, and I want you out there telling me what we're doing good and what we're not.

00:43:53.000 And so that's what I've done for eight years.

00:43:55.000 I've only been in political office.

00:43:58.000 This is my eighth year.

00:44:00.000 And I've loved it.

00:44:01.000 I've loved helping people.

00:44:03.000 I've loved fighting for school choice.

00:44:05.000 I've loved fighting for medical freedom.

00:44:07.000 I mean, all the things that are important to me as a mom, I got to bring with me to this office.

00:44:13.000 And I got to bring all the business knowledge that I acquired from starting and growing my own business.

00:44:19.000 It has really been an honor to serve the people of South Carolina.

00:44:24.000 I love that.

00:44:25.000 And it just seems like you're kind of a common sense, you know, somebody that's built something from the ground up.

00:44:32.000 That's so refreshing there.

00:44:34.000 You talked earlier about the grassroots part.

00:44:36.000 Obviously, that's near and dear to us at Turning Point Action.

00:44:39.000 That's what we do day in and day out, right?

00:44:42.000 We're out there chasing votes, we're out there trying to get people registered.

00:44:46.000 Explain how important that was for you.

00:44:49.000 And I think people also kind of, and this was Charlie's.

00:44:52.000 The secret sauce actually, because he was constantly interacting with people.

00:44:56.000 What that does to you, the candidate, like it changes you, it changes how you message, it changes how you are interpreting their needs, wants, concerns of real people, real voters on the ground.

00:45:07.000 So you're absolutely right.

00:45:09.000 You know, I went to between July and like up to two weeks ago.

00:45:14.000 So from July last year to now, not quite a year, I had my team go back.

00:45:19.000 We did over 200 meet and greets, town halls.

00:45:25.000 And forums all over the state.

00:45:28.000 And it was good.

00:45:28.000 I mean, I've been to all those counties many times as lieutenant governor, but just to sit down with the people.

00:45:33.000 And I didn't just go to Republican strongholds.

00:45:38.000 You know, I had people say to me when I was going to Hampton County, like, are there 25 Republicans in Hampton County?

00:45:43.000 Like, why are you going there?

00:45:45.000 And I had a packed room because people were just, nobody ever came to talk to them.

00:45:50.000 And they wanted to know, like, what did I think?

00:45:54.000 And they wanted to tell me what they were thinking and how they wanted to see their little part of heaven here in South.

00:45:59.000 Carolina, how that should grow.

00:46:01.000 And so it was eye opening for me and it gave me an even deeper respect for our farmers because their life is not easy and they're so resilient that they never complain.

00:46:12.000 And so everybody just kind of takes for granted that everything's going well and it's not.

00:46:17.000 And I've, you know, I've promised our agriculture community and our forestry community that I would put a liaison right in the governor's office so that we could work with President Trump to handle their problems and issues in real time and not.

00:46:31.000 Waiting, you know, till they boiled up to us.

00:46:33.000 And it just gave me a whole new insight of where I need to focus my attention as governor and how do I better serve the people.

00:46:43.000 I love that story.

00:46:43.000 Wow.

00:46:45.000 And what you said about the farmers, they're so resilient.

00:46:48.000 So everybody thinks it's going great.

00:46:48.000 They never complain.

00:46:50.000 I mean, those are the people that we should be in their corner, you know, that we need to have their backs.

00:46:56.000 And I love that you are a candidate that sounds like you got a ton of support from rural South Carolina, right?

00:47:03.000 And those are the.

00:47:05.000 Heartbeat of our country.

00:47:06.000 I mean, the rural Americans get forgotten about and left aside so often.

00:47:14.000 Pamela, just again, I'm trying to introduce you to our audience here, our national audience.

00:47:19.000 Rattle off the top three or top five issues that you're going to address as governor.

00:47:23.000 So, first and foremost, on day one, we're going to eliminate state income tax because we need to put money back in the homes of hardworking South Carolinians.

00:47:32.000 And we're going to lower property taxes because nobody should ever be able to be taxed out of their home.

00:47:37.000 We're going to work on regulations here in South Carolina, a bright red conservative state.

00:47:42.000 We have over 80,000 regulations in our state.

00:47:45.000 It was one of the things that energized me to saying yes to the governor and leaving my business to come here and serve, was because we have too many regulations and it's too hard on businesses and it makes it hard for them to be profitable.

00:47:58.000 So we're going to get rid of them and judges.

00:48:01.000 We're only one of two states that allows the General Assembly to elect our judges.

00:48:07.000 Perception is reality.

00:48:09.000 And if people feel that justice is not being delivered fairly, then they get very skeptical of it.

00:48:14.000 And it's one thing we can't have happen here in South Carolina or in this nation.

00:48:20.000 So I am saying that I think the governor should appoint the General Assembly, can confirm.

00:48:25.000 We need to keep them term limited because it's a powerful position.

00:48:29.000 And we need a review process.

00:48:30.000 So if we have judges that are going off the rails, we have a mechanism to take them off the bench.

00:48:35.000 Well, that all sounds great. 0.99

00:48:37.000 And I want everybody to get behind her campaign.

00:48:41.000 So, what's the date of the next runoff?

00:48:44.000 June 23rd is the runoff.

00:48:46.000 So, 13 days from today, we need to see a big turnout.

00:48:51.000 And, you know, you guys are wonderful.

00:48:53.000 I told a story, a very personal story.

00:48:56.000 My son is 19, he's in a college, he goes to college here in South Carolina, and just how much Charlie had shaped his life and the life of his friends.

00:49:05.000 It was, I mean, he was the first call I got.

00:49:10.000 When Charlie was shot.

00:49:12.000 And he was so tore up, something you don't often see in an 18 year old.

00:49:17.000 But it is, it meant the world.

00:49:20.000 Thank you for that.

00:49:21.000 That means the world to us to hear that.

00:49:23.000 It's nine months since we lost him today.

00:49:25.000 So God bless you.

00:49:26.000 We're behind you 100%.

00:49:28.000 Go out and win it.

00:49:29.000 Thank you.

00:49:32.000 All right.

00:49:32.000 So give us the bad news out of South Carolina.

00:49:35.000 Pamela, what's the good news?

00:49:36.000 And what's the bad?

00:49:37.000 Well, as you know, this was also primary night for another lawmaker. 0.99

00:49:43.000 It was Lindsey Graham facing the voters again in South Carolina.

00:49:46.000 We had multiple candidates on who challenged him.

00:49:48.000 We had Mark Lynch on several times.

00:49:50.000 We had Paul Dans on before he dropped out.

00:49:52.000 We urged you all to, you just had to keep him below 50%.

00:49:56.000 Unfortunately, not enough of South Carolina was able to get us over that threshold.

00:50:01.000 Yeah.

00:50:01.000 He romped.

00:50:02.000 He got well over 50%, almost 57% of the vote.

00:50:06.000 Yeah.

00:50:07.000 So he's probably headed back to the Senate for another term.

00:50:09.000 He's definitely headed. 1.00

00:50:10.000 But we got six more years of Lady Graham. 0.99

00:50:13.000 And.

00:50:14.000 What can I say?

00:50:15.000 We tried, okay?

00:50:17.000 We tried.

00:50:18.000 And listen, I don't know what's going on in South Carolina, to be perfectly honest.

00:50:24.000 There's like a weird political streak.

00:50:27.000 It's hard to explain.

00:50:28.000 It's like a warp in space time where it's still 2011 or something.

00:50:34.000 The number one issue is we have to remain firm on the Afghan and Iraq wars. 0.74

00:50:39.000 We still have to arm the Taliban, train up. 0.96

00:50:42.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:50:43.000 I don't know what the heck's going on.

00:50:44.000 Anyway, so that's disappointing, but there's some good news out of South Carolina.

00:50:47.000 We wanted to highlight that.

00:50:49.000 And Turning Point Action has endorsed Pamela. 1.00

00:50:52.000 So get behind her campaign. 1.00

00:50:53.000 She's a good one. 0.99

00:50:57.000 There is other news.

00:50:58.000 I mean, there was one good news.

00:51:02.000 I'm trying to find the good news in some of the electoral map.

00:51:05.000 Okay, so Spencer Pratt obviously got gamed.

00:51:07.000 In the DSA, folks went and ballot harvested and chose Nithya Rahman to get rid of Spencer Pratt.

00:51:15.000 But the also good news is that Tom Steyer is not going to be in the top two for the governorship.

00:51:20.000 That goes to our friend Steve Hilton, who has secured that second spot next to Javier Becerra.

00:51:27.000 And here's the other good news Tom Steyer burned through $215 million in cash for a second time and still couldn't get over the threshold to get into the run.

00:51:37.000 I like seeing left wing billionaires.

00:51:41.000 Set money on fire.

00:51:42.000 When Bloomberg did that in 2020, he spent, he blew $300, $400 million, I think, on the primary race.

00:51:49.000 And he was guaranteeing everyone a full salary all the way till election day.

00:51:54.000 He was buying, I think he bought the last words of Kirk Douglas.

00:51:58.000 Yeah.

00:51:59.000 And he was like, you know, Bloomberg can get it done, shuffles off the mortal call.

00:52:03.000 He set a lot of money on fire in that race, and it made me happy when it failed.

00:52:06.000 Well, so to put that in context, so he spent $209 million flooding the airways.

00:52:12.000 Of California with political ads.

00:52:14.000 That's about two thirds of all ad spending in the entire governor's race, including dozens of candidates and outside groups.

00:52:21.000 So if you looked at the governor's race in California, there were dozens of candidates.

00:52:26.000 You know, we focus on, you know, Bianco and Hilton and Becerra, and there was Swalwell for a time, so that's included in it. 0.98

00:52:34.000 Potato, Miss Potato, Miss, what is it, Katie Porter was in there.

00:52:39.000 So it was a flooded list.

00:52:40.000 He spent two thirds of all the money.

00:52:45.000 On the airways.

00:52:46.000 Becerro was the second highest spending candidate on ads who spent 11.7.

00:52:52.000 So he spent 11.7 million on ads.

00:52:55.000 Steyer spent 209 million on ads.

00:52:58.000 Six years ago, Steyer used a similar strategy in his bid for president, giving his campaign more than 300 million, 318 million in contributions, and another 24 million in loans, according to the campaign.

00:53:09.000 So he just lit all his money on fire.

00:53:12.000 God bless him.

00:53:13.000 God bless him.

00:53:14.000 All right.

00:53:14.000 And we have, so we're going to be bringing on Brandon Gill in the next segment.

00:53:17.000 It's an important thing.

00:53:18.000 He's got a lot of updates from Brandon on the SPLC and some different hearings that he's chairing and working on.

00:53:25.000 But, Blake, you have to tell us about worms.

00:53:28.000 And this is a, this is a.

00:53:29.000 Oh, you want to talk about the worms?

00:53:30.000 Yeah, we got to talk about the worms.

00:53:32.000 Have you guys heard about this? 0.98

00:53:33.000 They're screw worms. 1.00

00:53:34.000 They're called screw worms. 1.00

00:53:34.000 Screw worms. 1.00

00:53:36.000 They're a parasite. 1.00

00:53:37.000 They affect livestock. 0.68

00:53:40.000 And they're very ominous because most parasitic flies, they'll, oh man, we're talking about parasitic flies on this show.

00:53:47.000 We're going downhill.

00:53:48.000 But, They'll infest dead flesh.

00:53:50.000 So if you get ill, if you get rotting flesh, that will be infested by flies.

00:53:56.000 But there's also this screw worm.

00:53:58.000 What's so terrible about it is it infests healthy flesh.

00:54:01.000 You get these flies, they'll land on you, they'll lay your eggs, and it starts rotting, and they affect livestock.

00:54:06.000 You get them in your cattle, and you've got to cull the cattle herd.

00:54:09.000 Hugely economically destructive.

00:54:11.000 So, how did we get here, Blake?

00:54:13.000 Well, how did we get here is we eradicated this fly from the U.S. In the 80s and 90s.

00:54:21.000 In the 80s and 90s.

00:54:22.000 We spent millions of dollars on wiping this out, drove it all the way to Panama.

00:54:26.000 We wiped it out of Mexico and Central America too, drove it to Panama.

00:54:29.000 It's still in, we're not going to get it out of the Amazon.

00:54:31.000 But we drove it to Panama, and there it was for years.

00:54:35.000 And then, and we spent trivial money, like $10, $15 million a year to maintain that barrier upkeep.

00:54:42.000 And then in 2022, the screw worm got through Panama, and it got back into Central America.

00:54:48.000 We're showing it there.

00:54:49.000 That's the fly that lays in that screw worm.

00:54:50.000 Ooh, there we go, the maggots.

00:54:52.000 It gets through.

00:54:53.000 And what was going on in 2022 that might cause parasites to get through Panama?

00:54:57.000 We don't know for sure how it happened, but.

00:55:01.000 I will note that was a period where literally millions of human beings and sometimes animals, I bet some of them had pets, they were streaming through the Darien Gap, that jungle that's supposed to be almost impenetrable.

00:55:11.000 We were letting millions of people through, and what were they doing?

00:55:14.000 They were coming all the way up to the US.

00:55:16.000 And right around that time, this pest, the screw worm, got through, started getting on animals, started spreading up Guatemala, Mexico.

00:55:24.000 It's been detected in Texas.

00:55:27.000 The Trump administration was aware of this threat when they took office.

00:55:30.000 They are ramping up spending.

00:55:32.000 To reignite the eradication effort.

00:55:35.000 But we're going to spend hundreds of millions, probably billions of dollars, trying to re eradicate this thing that we'd gotten rid of with inferior technology, inferior know how decades ago. 0.99

00:55:46.000 That is the decline that you see for mass immigration and everything else. 0.56

00:55:50.000 Yeah, the Darien gap.

00:55:52.000 So, this is one of the suspected reasons that the screwworm has now started to harass Texas ranchers and cattle farmers.

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00:57:24.000 Okay, Brandon Gill is joining us now.

00:57:27.000 Brandon, there's two sort of like through lines that I want to talk with you about.

00:57:32.000 You were on the SPLC hearing, you were in the room yesterday, and I thought you had this just.

00:57:38.000 Amazing moment where you really just, I mean, I don't know how they would sit there and defend what they've done or who they are or what they believe, but you had this great exchange, and I want to play it 37.

00:57:50.000 40% of abortions nationwide are of black babies.

00:57:54.000 Blacks represent about 13% of the population. 0.70

00:57:57.000 Does that sound like something a white supremacist would oppose?

00:58:04.000 What I would say again is that SPLC supports reproductive.

00:58:08.000 Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge, isn't it?

00:58:13.000 I mean, I would think you would be able to defend that if your organization says that.

00:58:17.000 You clearly seem unable to.

00:58:20.000 Mr. Gill, I'm not sure why you would think I'm unable to do anything.

00:58:24.000 You're the president of the SPLC, which labels pro lifers as racists.

00:58:30.000 Well, does your organization just hurl around epithets like that without any justification?

00:58:34.000 Mr. Gill, what we do is I'm giving you the opportunity to just.

00:58:37.000 Mr. Chairman, what's he referring to?

00:58:39.000 And can he let the witness answer the question?

00:58:42.000 This is outrageous.

00:58:43.000 Allow him to speak.

00:58:43.000 No, it's not.

00:58:47.000 I know you don't like my question.

00:58:49.000 That was a great question.

00:58:51.000 I mean, he was stuttering away, he had no answers for you.

00:58:51.000 You got him.

00:58:55.000 Yeah, you know, it's crazy that groups like the SPLC will hurl, I mean, just really abominable epithets against conservatives, against pro lifers, in this case, saying that pro lifers are somehow have an ideology that is rooted in white supremacy because they believe, I guess, that the nuclear family itself is white supremacist and abortion helps to undermine that, which seems to be the goal of the SPLC.

00:59:25.000 But to call a group of Pro lifers, white supremacists, I think is a very serious thing to say.

00:59:31.000 It's something that can really harm somebody's reputation, certainly harm the reputation of that group.

00:59:36.000 And if you're going to say that, you ought to be able to defend it.

00:59:39.000 And I didn't really ask him anything very difficult.

00:59:42.000 I just basically asked him, why do you believe pro lifers are white supremacists?

00:59:46.000 And the reality is that, as we just saw, 40% roughly of abortions in the United States are black babies, despite black people being about 13% of the population.

00:59:57.000 So abortion massively disproportionately affects.

01:00:01.000 The black population in the United States.

01:00:04.000 And I would think that if pro lifers are white supremacists, then they wouldn't be pro lifers to begin with.

01:00:11.000 And that seems pretty basic.

01:00:13.000 And I think that if you're going to be the SPLC and you're going to say these things, you've got to be able to defend it a little bit.

01:00:21.000 Well, you should.

01:00:22.000 And there were so many amazing moments out of this hearing.

01:00:26.000 And sometimes hearings are like, whatever, okay.

01:00:28.000 But this is so important because what the SPLC has been accused of doing.

01:00:34.000 Is essentially ginning up images of hate, images of, and what they've, it's, you know, to sort of evoke the classic, you know, burning crosses, widespread, and then to find out they're funding the burning crosses, to find out they're buying KKK merch, basically, so that they can expose it, and then smearing like normal conservatives, mainstream conservatives, as hate groups to just get donations from credulous donors.

01:01:02.000 If hate group and like hate speech has any meaning, it really is what.

01:01:07.000 The SPLC does, which is to lie about what groups of people they dislike do and believe. 0.83

01:01:14.000 That they're going around and saying, there are all these hateful white conservative Christians in America that you should be afraid of. 0.95

01:01:22.000 Here's all these things they're doing, and they are faking it. 0.98

01:01:25.000 They are paying for it.

01:01:27.000 They have agent provocateurs engineering this so that they can then take those fake hate groups and smear people like Charlie Kirk as linked with those groups.

01:01:38.000 And I'm going to play this clip for you.

01:01:41.000 Congressman Gill here and get your reaction.

01:01:44.000 Stop 45.

01:01:45.000 With respect to Charlie Kirk, have you all taken any position since Charlie Kirk to.

01:01:52.000 Vice Roy, we unequivocally condemned the murder of Charlie Kirk.

01:01:56.000 What about the listing of Charlie Kirk?

01:02:02.000 It is our position that TPUSA expresses views and vilifies other people based on immutable characteristics, exposing them to our listing.

01:02:15.000 Lies. 0.99

01:02:16.000 Absolute garbage lies, Congressman. 0.99

01:02:19.000 Yeah, I mean, the thing about the SPLC is not simply that they'll slander TPUSA or Moms for Liberty or any other group. 0.98

01:02:29.000 It's that the FBI and government agencies have used that to go after these groups, to go after conservative organizations.

01:02:38.000 So it's far more impactful for the left than just saying mean things about Turning Point.

01:02:44.000 Now, going back to that, I'd love to hear him actually explain where is.

01:02:49.000 Turning Point USA maligning somebody for immutable characteristics.

01:02:54.000 I have a feeling that he can't really justify that at all.

01:02:58.000 No.

01:02:58.000 You know, it's really easy to just say that, to put that into the ether, to demonize a group like Turning Point than it is to actually substantiate it.

01:03:08.000 Yeah, and they bring up the Black Pilot. 0.63

01:03:09.000 Jasmine Crockett did this. 1.00

01:03:11.000 Oh, the Black Pilots. 0.99

01:03:12.000 And just for the thousandth time, and by the way, Charlie was using this to demand equal treatment of all Americans and all people. 0.98

01:03:20.000 And that's the only way that.

01:03:22.000 You actually eradicate racism and discrimination.

01:03:25.000 Well, and Wesley Hunt had a great clapback to this because he was actually a black pilot, a military pilot, and he was saying, You are so.

01:03:33.000 I mean, what are you saying? 0.79

01:03:34.000 That they need like lower standards?

01:03:37.000 They need special quota systems?

01:03:39.000 Because you can't.

01:03:40.000 How insulting is that to somebody like Wesley Hunt?

01:03:43.000 But just for the thousandth time, Charlie, when he said black pilots, was reacting to the CEO of United Airlines saying he was going to mandate a 50 50 quota system.

01:03:54.000 Pilot class 50% minority and women and 50% white.

01:03:58.000 For whatever reason, pilots in this country are predominantly white men.

01:04:03.000 I don't know why. 1.00

01:04:05.000 It's just the way it works, okay?

01:04:06.000 It's about 92% of new pilots tend to be white men. 0.70

01:04:11.000 White men just like to fly. 0.96

01:04:12.000 I don't know why. 0.99

01:04:13.000 So if you're going to mandate 50% minority pilots in a class, can you guarantee me that the standards are going to remain high, that the safety of the passengers is going to remain paramount? 1.00

01:04:25.000 Or are you going to start Forcing through pilots that aren't qualified. 0.99

01:04:29.000 I mean, it's just disgusting top to bottom because they're going to bring this up until the end of time and then they're going to get behind Tofu Taurico in your state of Texas who says, I have a virus in me because I have white skin.

01:04:42.000 And they're going to get behind every form of institutional discrimination in America, whether it's DEI in government, discrimination in college admissions.

01:04:51.000 They endlessly do this sort of innate discrimination.

01:04:57.000 Discriminate based on innate traits against people because they're male, because they're the immutable characteristic haters. 0.96

01:05:02.000 Yes, they are the racist. 0.96

01:05:04.000 They are, period. 1.00

01:05:05.000 Congressman, just despicable.

01:05:08.000 It is, and the funny thing is that the pilot example is such a perfect distillation of what DEI means.

01:05:14.000 And, you know, anybody with a brain can listen to what Charlie was saying and know exactly the point that he was making.

01:05:21.000 I mean, it's not a complicated thing.

01:05:23.000 But if you ask anybody in the country, regardless of what race they are, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever, and you ask them, Do you want your pilot to be the most qualified pilot whenever you hop on your next American Airlines or United flight?

01:05:37.000 Or do you want them to be chosen in any sense because of their race?

01:05:42.000 And everybody will tell you, I want the most qualified pilot.

01:05:46.000 I don't care about any of this stuff.

01:05:47.000 I just want the guy who's going to make sure the plane doesn't crash.

01:05:51.000 And for the SPLC to contort that into evidence that Turning Point is a hate group, I think that's the kind of thing that normal people should be able to look at and say, SPLC has zero credibility.

01:06:04.000 This is an organization that nobody, much less the United States government, should listen to in any sense.

01:06:11.000 But this is the kind of stuff that they've used to weaponize these conservatives.

01:06:14.000 And that's the key thing to emphasize here.

01:06:16.000 This is not just a left wing group that campaigns that has a hate map.

01:06:21.000 This was a group that, within very recent memory, it was treated like this neutral arbiter of facts.

01:06:28.000 That the New York Times, any of these news publications would say, Oh, this group is labeled as a hate group by the SPLC, which means they probably are.

01:06:35.000 The FBI brings them in to train agents.

01:06:38.000 Our government agencies use their databases like their official record.

01:06:43.000 And one of the most important triumphs of the MAGA era, the Trump era, is.

01:06:47.000 We are cutting that down.

01:06:49.000 We are not going to allow this to pass anymore.

01:06:51.000 Yeah, we're building up antibodies to it.

01:06:53.000 I just want to remind the audience three months and 19 days after the SPLC put Charlie and Turning Point and our students on their hate map, he was gunned down by an assassin who said, Some hate just can't be negotiated out.

01:07:08.000 So, did the SPLC kill Charlie?

01:07:10.000 No, I'm not saying that.

01:07:11.000 Did they directly impact what happened to Charlie?

01:07:14.000 Absolutely.

01:07:15.000 They injected this venom.

01:07:19.000 Where hate could be used as a pejorative to smear any conservative as unhuman, as beneath contempt.

01:07:26.000 And so, yes, they are culpable in an indirect way.

01:07:29.000 Absolutely.

01:07:30.000 And I'm very comfortable saying that.

01:07:34.000 All right.

01:07:34.000 So, there are a number of different news stories that are percolating right now.

01:07:41.000 So, there's this Act Blue hearing, which I feel like we need to talk about because Charlie was really.

01:07:52.000 Like a dog with a bone when it came to Act Blue.

01:07:55.000 He smelled fraud a mile away when it came to Act Blue.

01:07:58.000 And their CEO, their sort of new CEO, is on the Hill testifying before Congress and it's not going so well.

01:08:05.000 Takes the fifth on every single question that she was asked.

01:08:09.000 That doesn't automatically mean you're guilty.

01:08:10.000 I want to note that because Charlie, of course, also.

01:08:13.000 No, but listen, the nature of the questions were listen, listen this.

01:08:18.000 These are the questions that she was asked.

01:08:20.000 All right.

01:08:22.000 How much fraud is too much fraud?

01:08:23.000 I plead the fifth.

01:08:25.000 How many foreign contributions did ActBlue accept?

01:08:28.000 I plead the fifth.

01:08:29.000 How much money did ActBlue accept from Russia?

01:08:32.000 Yeah, there's like, you know, upwards of 40,000 alleged donations from Russia that have been tracked to Russia.

01:08:40.000 Why did your entire legal team quit?

01:08:42.000 Your in house legal team?

01:08:43.000 I plead the fifth.

01:08:45.000 Did your legal team quit because of reduced fraud standards?

01:08:49.000 I plead the fifth.

01:08:50.000 Did you weaken your fraud standards to help Democrats?

01:08:54.000 Yeah, did not go well.

01:08:58.000 So, the CEO published an article saying, Why I Use My Fifth Amendment Rights Before Congress Today, silence in response to bad faith action is not retreat.

01:09:09.000 It is a bedrock American right.

01:09:12.000 Okay.

01:09:13.000 Yeah, way to spin that, I guess. 1.00

01:09:16.000 So, good for you, lady.

01:09:20.000 So, it's obvious that Act Blue will be treated the same way.

01:09:24.000 This is a proceeding designed to build an illegitimate criminal case against us.

01:09:28.000 I cannot and will not let my words be misused in that way.

01:09:32.000 Or your organization is shady and you need to cover your tracks.

01:09:38.000 And you don't want to just answer legitimate questions.

01:09:41.000 So there's that too.

01:09:43.000 That's one option.

01:09:44.000 I want to remind people because this is a story from a few months ago.

01:09:47.000 A lot of this kicked off because obviously we warned about them for a long time.

01:09:52.000 Charlie warned about them for a long time.

01:09:53.000 But the New York Times, a left leaning newspaper for sure, they actually are the ones who did a very detailed report on them a couple months ago.

01:10:03.000 If you want to go read it, it's ActBlue may have misled Congress on vetting foreign donations.

01:10:08.000 And it's because when they're the CEO who's pleading the fifth, Regina Wallace Jones, she had said that they'd carried out detailed, multi layered screenings to root out foreign corrupt illegal donations.

01:10:21.000 And their law firm said this presents a substantial risk for Act Blue.

01:10:26.000 And they said that a criminal investigation might find that they had tried to conceal facts about its efforts to prevent foreign contributions.

01:10:34.000 And it says the memos instigated a meltdown at the highest levels of Act Blue, one of the Democratic Party's.

01:10:41.000 Most vital financial organs, a series of top officials resigned in quick succession.

01:10:48.000 So that's what's going on.

01:10:50.000 And I would note, we saw something very similar like this with the SPLC six whole years ago, where there was misconduct involving Morris Dees.

01:10:59.000 Suddenly, all the rats jumped off the ship.

01:11:01.000 They brought in a former staffer for Michelle Obama to do a very detailed investigation that was never heard from again.

01:11:07.000 And suddenly, now we see all of this misconduct at the SPLC.

01:11:11.000 I think we're going to find something very similar at ActBlue.

01:11:13.000 Well, so just so you know, like, The little number on the back of your credit card where you have to put your CVV code or whatever, they don't require that, or at least they didn't.

01:11:22.000 I wonder why.

01:11:22.000 Why would you need that?

01:11:23.000 That's a security measure that is in place to root out fraudulent donations.

01:11:29.000 I mean, there are many allegations against ActBlue, but it was completely, in my opinion, a money laundering organization for the Democrat Party.

01:11:38.000 Now they're in pure retreat, and it's beautiful.

01:11:40.000 So she goes on these attacks are part of a much bigger trend of retaliation and retribution. 0.96

01:11:45.000 See what she's doing here? 1.00

01:11:47.000 See what she's doing here?

01:11:48.000 I'm the victim.

01:11:49.000 Okay, we were defrauding the political system, actually, in the United States, but we're the victim.

01:11:55.000 It was universities, it was law firms, then civil rights organizations like the SPLC had it coming.

01:12:03.000 Now it is a platform that helps people participate in democracy.

01:12:07.000 If those behind this scheme succeed, they will go further against other causes, other service providers, other candidates, and ordinary American citizens whose only offense is disagreeing with this administration.

01:12:20.000 That is all from the words of Regina Wallace Jones, who's the president and chief executive of ActBlue and a total fraudster.

01:12:27.000 Okay?

01:12:27.000 That's how I feel.

01:12:28.000 All right.

01:12:29.000 I got to play.

01:12:30.000 We got one more story here we're going to get to.

01:12:32.000 And as we know, Blake, the FIFA World Cup is going to be coming to the United States.

01:12:38.000 Oh, don't remind me.

01:12:39.000 Canada and Mexico.

01:12:40.000 Okay, but the United States is getting most of them.

01:12:42.000 A Somali man posing as a referee was denied entry into America. 0.89

01:12:47.000 Let's play the story.

01:12:47.000 56.

01:12:49.000 Rebecca, a Somali referee.

01:12:51.000 Is not going to be able to officiate the World Cup after being denied entry into the United States over what officials have said are vetting concerns.

01:12:59.000 I think he was denied a visa, but I think he was gained an opportunity to sort of highlight what America has become, which is a shame.

01:13:09.000 Yeah, okay, so this guy has like apparently known ties to terrorist organizations in Somalia, and so they denied him.

01:13:17.000 And then he goes back, by the way, I don't think we have this clip, but he goes back to Somalia when he's denied, and he gets like a hero's welcome.

01:13:25.000 Like, You know, good for you. 0.97

01:13:28.000 We know you're a terrorist. 0.99

01:13:29.000 You're one of us, I guess. 0.78

01:13:32.000 So, did he return bearing suitcases filled with Medicaid money?

01:13:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:13:38.000 He was smuggling some of the money to Al Shabaab.

01:13:42.000 By the way, I just love this.

01:13:43.000 By the way, hold the line.

01:13:45.000 The administration, you're doing a great job.

01:13:47.000 This guy has no business being in the country.

01:13:49.000 I don't care if he's here for the FIFA World Cup.

01:13:51.000 We have standards, and it's called we have the rule of law.

01:13:55.000 So, see you later. 1.00

01:13:57.000 You know, enjoy Somalia. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Enjoy whatever other dumb country is going to let you in. 0.99

01:14:02.000 If you have ties to terrorists, I'm sorry. 1.00

01:14:04.000 No good.

01:14:05.000 No visa for you. 1.00

01:14:07.000 And by the way, that should go for all Somalians right now. 1.00

01:14:10.000 We have a big Somalia population in this country, and it ain't going so well. 1.00

01:14:14.000 A bunch of pirates. 1.00

01:14:16.000 So I love that story.

01:14:17.000 Good for the admin.

01:14:18.000 And there's a lot of good stuff happening, by the way, on the immigration front.

01:14:21.000 We're going to highlight it some in coming episodes.

01:14:23.000 That said, I'm not watching the World Cup.

01:14:25.000 I'll probably watch it a little bit.

01:14:27.000 I can't help but cheer for America.

01:14:34.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 10, 2026

The Karmelo Anthony Aftermath

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