The Charlie Kirk Show - February 28, 2024


The Latest Case for Never Apologizing


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In this episode, Andrew and I riff about a transgender issue in Virginia regarding Lt. Governor Danica Rohm and the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, Winsom Sears. We talk about populism and how it is spreading across the globe in this very crisp and fire episode.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, Andrew and I riff about some transgender issue in Virginia regarding Winsom Sears and the lieutenant governor of Virginia.
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00:01:25.000 So we want to talk about Winsome Sears.
00:01:27.000 Now, I don't know if you saw the recent development in the story, though, because there was an apology.
00:01:32.000 Yeah.
00:01:32.000 Five Winston Sears.
00:01:34.000 So she basically just.
00:01:34.000 Yeah.
00:01:35.000 Well, no, she said, I'm not here to upset anybody.
00:01:37.000 I'm here to do the people's business that you elected me for.
00:01:40.000 Okay, well, let's go through the whole story.
00:01:41.000 And maybe that I think there is an apology that she just recently said three times.
00:01:45.000 I apologize, I apologize, I apologize.
00:01:46.000 But okay, let's go through the story here.
00:01:48.000 So, what happened in Virginia?
00:01:50.000 So, the original, I mean, we'll play the video here, but the original clip is that you know, she's Virginia's lieutenant governor.
00:01:57.000 She came to office in that, you know, 2022.
00:02:02.000 The only wave we've had, which was Virginia, 2021.
00:02:04.000 That's right.
00:02:05.000 Glenn Young.
00:02:05.000 They do office.
00:02:06.000 By the way, that was the closest thing to a wave we've seen.
00:02:08.000 That's it, right?
00:02:09.000 It's because it was a local, local election.
00:02:11.000 The RNC wasn't involved.
00:02:12.000 So, Virginia Lieutenant Governor Winsom Sears refers to transgender state senator Danica Rohm as sir.
00:02:20.000 And then basically, chaos ensues.
00:02:23.000 He storms out of the room, and the Senate went into two recesses.
00:02:26.000 So, let's go ahead and play cut 64.
00:02:29.000 Senator May state it, Madam President.
00:02:31.000 How many votes will be what it takes to pass this bill with the emergency clause?
00:02:35.000 That would be four-fifths, Senator.
00:02:38.000 And what would be the exact number for that, Madam President?
00:02:41.000 Yes, sir.
00:02:42.000 That would be 32.
00:02:50.000 The question is: shall the bill pass?
00:02:52.000 Those in favor of that motion will record their votes.
00:02:54.000 Aye, those opposed, no.
00:02:55.000 Are the senators ready to vote?
00:02:57.000 Have all the senators?
00:02:59.000 Okay, and then I think it continues in cut 65, right?
00:03:01.000 Yep, 65.
00:03:03.000 I am not here to upset anyone.
00:03:06.000 I am here to do the job that the people of Virginia have called me to do, and that is to treat everyone with respect and dignity.
00:03:17.000 I myself have at times not been afforded that same respect and dignity.
00:03:26.000 But in this body, and as long as I am president of the Senate, and by the grace of God, I will be treated with respect and dignity, and I will treat everyone else with respect and dignity.
00:03:42.000 So, that was a pretty triumphant deal.
00:03:44.000 She has now since backed off, and in three different times, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize.
00:03:51.000 When you watch the clip, it's actually she's she's it seems like she does it subconsciously because this trans person presents very masculine. 0.92
00:04:01.000 I mean, just to be honest.
00:04:03.000 And I think she, Winsom Sears did it sort of inadvertently.
00:04:08.000 So it doesn't surprise me that she kind of like backed off it.
00:04:10.000 But it sort of speaks to the ridiculousness of the whole notion where you have people that are pretty masculine features, they're built.
00:04:21.000 And we all are sort of forced to pretend.
00:04:23.000 But it is a man.
00:04:24.000 That's a man.
00:04:25.000 That's a man.
00:04:25.000 That's why Winsom Sears said, sir.
00:04:27.000 But you could tell she wasn't even thinking about it.
00:04:29.000 She just kind of was grabbing for papers and said, sir.
00:04:32.000 So it's actually kind of a humorous clip.
00:04:34.000 But I don't think, I'm kind of disappointed.
00:04:36.000 Winsome Sears never should have apologized.
00:04:38.000 Misgendering.
00:04:39.000 It was an accident.
00:04:40.000 But misgendering isn't a real thing, right?
00:04:43.000 Yeah.
00:04:44.000 Yes, right.
00:04:44.000 I mean, that's a whole.
00:04:45.000 If I called you a lady, then that would be misgendering. 1.00
00:04:47.000 That would be misgendering. 0.99
00:04:48.000 Right.
00:04:49.000 That's the only thing.
00:04:51.000 The only misgendering is.
00:04:52.000 That's really funny.
00:04:53.000 That's the only misgendering.
00:04:55.000 That's the point.
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00:06:00.000 So I instantly went back to this Mark Robinson clip, which is basically one of the more base clips that you'll ever hear in church or in politics or anywhere for that matter.
00:06:12.000 But he's the lieutenant governor of North Carolina.
00:06:14.000 So you got Virginia, North Carolina, neighboring states, lieutenant governors, lots of misgendering going on.
00:06:20.000 Cut 56.
00:06:21.000 Here's something else I'm not supposed to say. 0.59
00:06:24.000 Ain't but two genders. 0.99
00:06:26.000 Two genders. 0.99
00:06:28.000 Ain't nothing but men and women. 1.00
00:06:31.000 You can go to the doctor and get cut up.
00:06:34.000 You can go down to the dress shop and get made up.
00:06:37.000 You can go down there and get drugged up.
00:06:40.000 But at the end of the day, you were just a drugged up, dressed up, made up, cut up, man or woman.
00:06:50.000 You ain't changed what God put in you, that DNA.
00:06:53.000 You can't transcend God's creation.
00:06:57.000 I don't care how hard you try.
00:07:00.000 Well, I think I love it.
00:07:01.000 Yeah, what we saw in Virginia was just an example of that.
00:07:04.000 And by the way, to be fair to Winsom Sears, it's a purple state at best.
00:07:09.000 It's a blue state. 0.97
00:07:10.000 But she's not up for re-election. 0.99
00:07:12.000 Remember, it's a one-stop.
00:07:13.000 But the whole state is trying to, you know, sort of act like, you know, yes, we're Republicans, but we're reasonable.
00:07:20.000 We're not those Steve Bannon conservatives or whatever.
00:07:23.000 So it's a little bit different of a political dynamic.
00:07:27.000 I think that if there, I'll be, I'm contrarian, obviously.
00:07:31.000 I think if there's a hill to die on, it's calling a man a man.
00:07:35.000 It's reality.
00:07:36.000 Yeah, I know.
00:07:37.000 Let's be real.
00:07:38.000 And it's the way she could have owned it is like, okay, in a chamber, I guess I might have, you know, called you what you want to be called, but you look like a dude.
00:07:48.000 You are a dude.
00:07:49.000 Stop taking this so seriously, dude.
00:07:50.000 If she would have said that, it would have been hilarious.
00:07:52.000 Well, I mean, at the very least, Winsom Sears could have said, I apologize for that position on it.
00:08:02.000 I'm saying at the very least, maybe a middle ground would have been like, hey, sorry, you know, I'm reacting to what my eyes see.
00:08:10.000 It was a subconscious thing I said.
00:08:14.000 You know, I'm just saying.
00:08:15.000 Or what you could have said is my intent wasn't to make you upset.
00:08:18.000 You should have enough strength in your own identity that if someone calls you sir, you just kind of laugh it off.
00:08:23.000 Yeah.
00:08:23.000 But obviously, you're a fragile.
00:08:28.000 You could just refer to the person like their last name.
00:08:32.000 You see that?
00:08:32.000 I'm trying to behave.
00:08:34.000 Fragile.
00:08:35.000 Just use the last name instead of just leave the pronouns completely.
00:08:40.000 I mean, listen, there is a part of me, and maybe this is just because, you know, maybe I'm showing my moderate strength part of my thinking here, a moderate streak.
00:08:51.000 But I do want to sort of, in a better world, if, you know, for example, somebody changes their name because they don't like their birth family or they have a falling out.
00:09:02.000 Maybe they change their first name, whatever.
00:09:04.000 That happened.
00:09:05.000 I have a cousin.
00:09:06.000 That's different.
00:09:07.000 Exactly.
00:09:07.000 But I want to respect that person's choice of a new name.
00:09:10.000 So there's this part of me that wants to be respectful.
00:09:13.000 But then it comes with all this baggage about how they're imposing it on our children.
00:09:18.000 And we have to get these constant news reports of like first trans woman to be elected into the state senate in Virginia.
00:09:25.000 But also, the Virginia Democrats immediately said the apology wasn't accepted.
00:09:29.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:09:30.000 Because they're petty little. 0.98
00:09:31.000 Yes.
00:09:32.000 But then also they break quorum over this.
00:09:34.000 Yeah.
00:09:35.000 Over misgendering.
00:09:36.000 Yeah.
00:09:37.000 I mean, it's a total.
00:09:38.000 And by the way, again, if you saw somebody making, it was an accident.
00:09:42.000 Winston Sears, that was an accident.
00:09:44.000 If you saw that happen, you would think people could be a little bit more gracious towards one another.
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00:11:05.000 So I'm going to ask you, Andrew, you know, you live in a ruling class enclave.
00:11:09.000 Where is the trans thing amongst kind of like super rich people by the beach?
00:11:14.000 I'm actually curious.
00:11:14.000 I'm not kidding.
00:11:15.000 Like, where do they fall on this?
00:11:17.000 I mean, I think in Santa Barbara is what you're referring to.
00:11:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:11:20.000 Kids off limits, but live and let live, probably.
00:11:22.000 Yeah, I would think so.
00:11:23.000 Like, for example, if they started pushing that on children in my sphere, I would feel completely comfortable in Santa Barbara to say, hey, this isn't okay.
00:11:33.000 And I would fully expect I'm going to have some backup there.
00:11:38.000 But I mean, yeah, I mean, Santa Barbara's probably left of center, but it's more conservative than a lot of places.
00:11:44.000 Because this issue, it's probably like too much for the kids.
00:11:47.000 But if I see a man addressed, be respectful, yeah, we just, you know, whatever.
00:11:50.000 And then privately, we all talk about it and laugh about it.
00:11:53.000 Oh, is that right?
00:11:54.000 Oh, yeah.
00:11:54.000 Oh, yeah.
00:11:55.000 I mean, it's no different.
00:11:55.000 I mean, that's what's so funny about it.
00:11:57.000 Even liberals probably like, you know, I don't know.
00:11:59.000 Yeah, a lot of orthodoxy.
00:12:01.000 Listen, I'll be, I mean, I'm not hanging out with died-in-the-wool ideologues.
00:12:01.000 I'm not talking.
00:12:06.000 I mean, but a lot of my friends, yeah, they vote Democrat.
00:12:11.000 And then, you know, but I bring this up and they kind of go, that's a good point.
00:12:14.000 And I've had a few of them go, like, you know, during COVID, I'm like, you voted for this.
00:12:17.000 And they're like, I didn't vote for this.
00:12:18.000 I'm like, yes, yes, you did.
00:12:20.000 And there's actually been some lights that have come on.
00:12:22.000 But, you know, Santa Barbara's got a moderately conservative mayor.
00:12:27.000 I'm just curious that if it isn't as far as we would be on the trans thing, but it's not. 0.97
00:12:32.000 But my kids go to a conservative Christian school, and if they tried that crap there, I mean, I'd be turning over tables. 0.95
00:12:39.000 Do you think the trans lobby is losing momentum? 0.99
00:12:42.000 Actually, you know, it's funny.
00:12:42.000 Yeah.
00:12:44.000 I had a dinner with a reporter.
00:12:48.000 I don't know if our audience knows that's what I do with the other part of my day.
00:12:51.000 I constantly working with press and meeting.
00:12:56.000 But I actually like some of them.
00:12:57.000 And, you know, we've talked about how the New York Times is not nearly as bad as the Washington Post.
00:13:02.000 I think the Washington Post is actually trying to change that a little bit.
00:13:06.000 AP is by far the worst outlet I've ever worked with.
00:13:09.000 So completely dishonest hacks.
00:13:12.000 Happy AP.
00:13:13.000 Yeah, completely.
00:13:15.000 Anyway, so I'm having dinner in D.C. with a New York Times reporter from New York.
00:13:21.000 He happened to be in D.C.
00:13:22.000 And he told me, he said, all my friends, we're all sort of like old school Democrats.
00:13:28.000 He's like, yeah, I hate Trump, but this is what's getting insane.
00:13:31.000 He's like, I'm telling you, if Republicans want to win, make the trans issue part of the central messaging.
00:13:38.000 And he told me that because in New York, he was saying, we're all getting sick of it.
00:13:42.000 All my, like, kind of, you know, the.
00:13:44.000 What element of it?
00:13:44.000 The kids part?
00:13:45.000 Just the kids part, just the in-your-face, the constant drumbeat of it, just the psychological, you know, everybody feels inundated by this, right?
00:13:54.000 And so he was noticing it in New York and seeing that like a lot of his bougie friends were getting sick of it. 0.99
00:14:00.000 And he was just like, listen, somebody needs to speak sanity into this craziness because it's going off the rails.
00:14:05.000 And this was like three years ago.
00:14:07.000 And so I remember thinking then that if this guy's telling me this, and this is a Pulisar Prize-winning New York Times reporter.
00:14:17.000 And, you know, it's stuck with me ever since.
00:14:19.000 But I think it's a winning issue.
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00:15:17.000 In every democracy around the world, we are seeing a rising movement of either authoritarian populism or skepticism about democracy itself.
00:15:26.000 I would love to have them define democracy, Andrew.
00:15:29.000 That is a term they use so much.
00:15:30.000 It's kind of like racism.
00:15:32.000 Here it is perfectly.
00:15:33.000 Thank you, Ryan.
00:15:34.000 Let's play Cut 45.
00:15:35.000 But I will say that in all of our democracies, in every democracy around the world, we are seeing a rising movements of uh either uh authoritarian populism uh, or uh skepticism about democracy itself.
00:15:54.000 Uh, and we all need to recommit ourselves to standing up not just for Ukraine but, through standing up for Ukraine, to the very principles that make our countries strong and free.
00:16:07.000 I remember when Canada used to be this really decent, boring country.
00:16:10.000 Make, make Canada boring again, used to be so boring and like fun to visit yeah, and now it's like nice, it's like beta Nazism. 0.90
00:16:19.000 Well, what it's?
00:16:20.000 What this whole thing reminds me of is the Mike Benz interview which, by the way if um obviously, he did an interview with Tucker that went mega viral uh, but then he came on this show like two days after it released really well, yeah it.
00:16:20.000 You know?
00:16:33.000 No, it did, it did phenomenal.
00:16:34.000 So if you haven't, if you haven't seen that episode, by by all means, look at it again.
00:16:37.000 But he talks about this timeline of basically, 2014.
00:16:42.000 Uh, you know the Crimea, seizure of Crimea by the Russians uh, went into where they sort of realized tweets, not tanks, was the new power.
00:16:50.000 Um, so they, so the intel agencies and our NATO PART AND Partners started this uh, censorship regime.
00:16:59.000 It really started in earnest then in 2016 um, with the rise of Brexit and then Donald Trump, and they started seeing this populist wave and they they basically started treating populism um as the same as they would treat the rise of Pro-Russian ideologies from in Eastern Europe, right?
00:17:20.000 So they started using it and treating them the same and using censorship the same upon both of these.
00:17:26.000 And all of these three-letter agency personnel scattered to the wind, all these NGOs to sort of censor this.
00:17:31.000 And so what Trudeau is really doing here is he's sort of confirming Mike Benz's thesis that Western elites that now control the levers of power in our representative democracies view populism as an existential threat.
00:17:47.000 But you have said really clearly on this show that if you want to get populism, do two things.
00:17:53.000 You mass immigrate and then you mass print. 0.99
00:17:55.000 And you mass print.
00:17:57.000 So the West is guilty of both of those. 0.91
00:17:59.000 I think any other show says it the way we say it.
00:18:00.000 No, it's super simple.
00:18:02.000 If you want a rise of populism, you know, just tell your citizens that you don't have any borders anymore and your currency is going to be worse and correct.
00:18:10.000 And then all of a sudden, a country as powerful and as wealthy as America, all of a sudden, the everyday citizens are like, I'm living paycheck to paycheck under Biden.
00:18:18.000 So I want to focus on us.
00:18:20.000 I want to focus on our border.
00:18:21.000 And that's what's so interesting about what's playing out is you've got Mike Johnson meeting with Schumer, McConnell, and Biden at the White House today.
00:18:30.000 And Schumer comes out and says, hey, history's looking at you.
00:18:34.000 Then Johnson comes out and says, actually, I'm looking at America.
00:18:38.000 So, yeah, I mean, tough luck here, guys.
00:18:41.000 I'm not going to pass some Ukraine $60 billion funding bills.
00:18:44.000 They're really squeezing him right now.
00:18:45.000 They're squeezing him big.
00:18:46.000 And he deserves our appreciation, admiration, and prayers because he's standing alone.
00:18:51.000 He has said that there will not be a government shutdown.
00:18:55.000 But the question is, will he fund Ukraine?
00:18:57.000 And are we going to get another CR?
00:18:59.000 I mean, yeah, that's my one beef with Johnson.
00:19:02.000 I want him to be okay with shutting down the government.
00:19:05.000 Like, put that on the table.
00:19:07.000 Look, guys, Biden has all the executive authority he needs in order to close this border and secure it.
00:19:13.000 Trump showed us that.
00:19:15.000 So if you want a funded government, if you want to fund Ukraine, play ball and really play ball.
00:19:20.000 And if you're not, if you're not willing to, which all indications are that Joe Biden is not willing to close this border down, then sorry, you don't get any of these nice, shiny things.
00:19:29.000 So it should be on the table.
00:19:30.000 It's my one beef with him, but the fact that he's standing with him on Ukraine, the country's with him on a border wall.
00:19:36.000 The country's with him.
00:19:37.000 I mean, he is the, yes, he has a slight majority, but he actually has a very powerful people's majority of the country.
00:19:43.000 100%.
00:19:44.000 Yeah, and that's what we've learned with Trump.
00:19:46.000 If the people are with you, you are indestructible.
00:19:50.000 We've learned this with attacks that you've experienced, you know, Bannon's experience, Trump's experience, even that Matt Gates' experience when he first took McCarthy out.
00:19:58.000 The people were with him.
00:19:59.000 The grassroots, we've learned this with Rana.
00:20:02.000 When the people are with you, you have power.
00:20:04.000 And it's sort of a question of whether or not you're willing to stand in the gap and take the slings and arrows because the media is going to be vicious on him.
00:20:11.000 Can you imagine living in DC day in and day out and having to deal with this type of military-industrial complex coming down on your back?
00:20:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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