00:00:00.000Hey, everybody, Mark Robinson joins the program, and then producer Andrew helps me unpack all the Robert Her news as it was happening while we were live on air.
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00:03:28.000And they're seeing that dissatisfaction.
00:03:30.000But in my case, what they really see is they see a candidate that is able to reach out to those folks, bring common sense solutions to the problems that they face.
00:03:40.000And then they see someone who looks like them.
00:03:42.000And ultimately, what happens there is we get into office and their success.
00:03:46.000And all of a sudden, voting dynamics in North Carolina are changed for decades.
00:03:50.000And quite it starts across the nation.
00:04:08.000You know, they might think Trump is going to win.
00:04:11.000They're already trying to think of what comes next.
00:04:13.000And they cannot have an articulate, passionate, patriotic, conservative black man be a popular governor in a state as important as North Carolina, right?
00:04:25.000North Carolina is critical to their redefining goals.
00:04:30.000So the money coming in is they're trying to stop your career, stop the movement, because I'll be honest, you know, if Trump wins, which we pray he does in November, you're a top list if you become governor to be really a continuation of this movement.
00:05:23.000When I was in the seventh grade at junior high school back, I can remember taking the social studies class.
00:05:31.000In social studies, we learned history.
00:05:33.000And I remember being taught about the Holocaust.
00:05:36.000I remember the first time I saw the images of survivors of Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen and Buchenwald and those death camps.
00:05:46.000I remember seeing photographs of human bodies being stacked like pork wood.
00:05:53.000The savagery that the Holocaust represents.
00:05:57.000I saw that from the time I was a young teenager and have studied it extensively up until now.
00:06:03.000And for someone to say that I don't believe what I've seen with my own eyes is completely ridiculous.
00:06:10.000Not only that, not only that, Charlie, I also stood in Israel with the Israeli people one month after the worst attack on Israel since the Holocaust.
00:06:23.000I saw the dreadful after effects of outright murder against women and children.
00:06:29.000I stood on those grounds and I witnessed those things.
00:06:32.000And for somebody to make those accusations to me is completely unfounded and just quite frankly ridiculous.
00:06:38.000I want to play the tape here because I think I was one of the first people to find this and put it on social media only because I was in the car listening to MSNBC.
00:06:54.000When you have to say the Holocaust was real and Hitler was evil, both in a primary ad, you know that this is not a normal primary year, but Mark Robinson is not a normal primary winner.
00:07:07.000He will be the Republican nominee for governor in North Carolina.
00:07:10.000He has, in fact, called the Holocaust hogwash.
00:07:17.000He says the moon landing in 1969 may have been fake.
00:07:20.000He says the civil rights movement in the 1960s was, quote, crap and that Martin Luther King was a communist.
00:07:27.000He also says there is a secret ruling cabal that is part reptile, meaning part human, part reptile.
00:07:35.000Now, I don't want to waste our valuable time of you going through that nonsense, but I want you to just riff on the Holocaust one because that is the one that they're going to try to use against you.
00:07:58.000Or more to the point: how a weak leftist government set up gun control in a way that a punk like Hitler could use it to take to victimize people.
00:08:09.000Look, these folks know exactly what I mean.
00:08:14.000But the bottom line is this: they want to talk about everything else under the sun except for the issues.
00:08:20.000And why do they not want to talk about the issues?
00:08:23.000Because whether it's the border, whether it's our economy, whether it's education, doesn't matter what it is, they lose on every single solitary substance issue out there.
00:08:35.000They don't have one single solitary win.
00:08:37.000So, what they want to do is smear the windshield with a bunch of garbage so that folks can't see what's going on and can't get a glimpse into the future under conservative leadership.
00:08:47.000But I guarantee you, we're going to claim that windshield off, push past all this mud, and move forward and give people a vision they can believe in.
00:09:18.000And plus, you have plans to make North Carolina a new Florida in the best possible way.
00:09:25.000Competitive for business, safe for kids to go to school.
00:09:28.000About one minute in this segment, Mark, talk about some of your vision for North Carolina and contrast that with the failure of the Democrats in your state.
00:09:35.000Oh, well, so I'll put it this way and just make it short.
00:09:38.000Someone asked me what makes me different from my opponent on the Alpha Saturday Island.
00:11:09.000They know that 90% of permanent change comes from the mind, and they work on eliminating the reason you gain this weight in the first place.
00:11:15.000There's no shortcuts, pills, or injections, just solid, science-based nutrition and behavior change.
00:11:19.000And finally, probably most importantly, I lost 30 pounds.
00:12:48.000And my mother was largely responsible for my upbringing.
00:12:52.000My mom had a big choice when my dad died.
00:12:54.000She could have sat home and accepted the gifts of the government, so to speak, welfare, or go to work.
00:13:01.000If my mom went to work, and I watched my mom as a young kid, I watched my mom walk to work to the university to go to work as a custodian to provide for us.
00:13:12.000And it set a standard in my life that let me know that it's up to me.
00:13:15.000It's not up to the federal government.
00:13:17.000It's not up to the state government, county government.
00:13:19.000It's up to me to take care of my family because that's exactly what my mom did.
00:13:24.000I spent a little bit of time in the United States military in the Army Reserves.
00:13:29.000I was what's called a medical specialist in 91A10, part of an ambulance company out of Winston-Salem.
00:13:34.000That was a great time in my life, but I didn't choose to make the military career.
00:13:38.000I was honorably discharged around 1990, 91, somewhere around there.
00:13:44.000And then I went into furniture manufacturing.
00:13:47.000I spent about a total of 20 years in furniture manufacturing altogether, three different places.
00:13:53.000Two of those places I had first place I had to leave because of NAFTA.
00:14:01.000The second place I went, I worked for about 10 years and NAFTA struck again and shut that place down and it moved down south down to Mexico.
00:14:11.000And then I was at the final place where I worked, which that's where I gave that speech in front of the city council.
00:15:44.000We're the number one business destination in the nation, two years running.
00:15:48.000Everybody wants to come here to North Carolina to do business.
00:15:51.000We're firing on all soons, but we have a grand opportunity right now to really grow our economy, to supercharge it, to make ourselves into the economic superpower we can be.
00:16:03.000And I think that's one of the reasons why this thing is going to be focused on in this race because we're at a crossroads.
00:17:02.000We had last month saving babies with pre-born by providing ultrasounds.
00:17:06.000And we're doing again this year what we did last year.
00:17:08.000We're going to stand for life because remaining silent in the face of the most radically pro-death administration is not an option.
00:17:13.000As Sir Edmund Burke said, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing, and we're not going to do nothing.
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00:18:01.000Joining us now to help me understand the Robert Hur saga, because I haven't had a chance to watch it as we've been live on air, is producer Andrew.
00:18:08.000Andrew, what's been going on here, reminder audience?
00:18:10.000Who is special counsel her and why is it significant?
00:18:14.000Yeah, so special counsel Robert Hurr was appointed to investigate the classified documents handling thereof of President Joe Biden.
00:18:26.000And he was a former U.S. attorney in Maryland appointed by Donald Trump.
00:18:34.000And Merrick Garland appointed him to look into the classified documents scandal of Joe Biden.
00:18:42.000And obviously, he issued a long report where he did not pursue charges against President Joe Biden and basically said that he was an elderly man that had memory issues.
00:18:57.000And this became a massive, massive story that we basically have an official DOJ document authorized from the very top of the DOJ that says that our sitting president has memory issues, that he's an elderly man with mental acuity problems and memory lapses.
00:19:16.000And this then led to a whole bunch of other questions.
00:19:19.000And so now he's testifying before the House.
00:19:27.000But one of the more intriguing parts of this, Charlie, is that just hours before testifying, Robert Hur resigned from the Department of Justice.
00:19:41.000So he's represented by a private attorney that's sitting alongside him.
00:19:45.000Why that's important, and people need to understand this, is that if he was still an employee of the Department of Justice, he would have had to get his testimony approved by the DOJ before his test before testifying.
00:19:59.000So, what this means is he's essentially completely green.
00:20:04.000He has a green light to say whatever he feels is the truth, and he's not going to be corralled by his handlers at the Department of Justice.
00:20:13.000That is obviously Joe Biden's Department of Justice.
00:20:16.000So, we're getting a pretty unvarnished look at what Robert Hurt actually thinks.
00:20:21.000Now, here's the other rub: both sides are unhappy, right?
00:20:26.000The Republicans wanted Joe Biden to be prosecuted, similar to the way that President Trump has been prosecuted by Jack Smith in Florida over his documents and his handling of classified documents.
00:20:49.000And so, the Republicans are not happy about that.
00:20:51.000Now, Democrats are not happy about it either because they just said that the sitting president, the leader of the free world, has is so mentally challenged, has such a mental acuity problem that he's not fit to be prosecuted.
00:21:07.000So, obviously, that raises the question: if he's not fit to be prosecuted, then he's not fit to be president.
00:21:12.000And so, President Biden has denied the framing of his memory and his mental acuity.
00:21:19.000Everybody's going to be pointing to the State of the Union speech where they say he was 10 out of 10 on fire after they shot him up with whatever they shot him up with.
00:21:28.000And so, that then begs the question: well, if he is mentally sharp, as the Democrats say, then why not prosecute him?
00:21:35.000Because one of the things we learned here was that he Robert Hurr says that he absolutely is not exonerating President Biden.
00:22:04.000So, this lengthy, expensive, and independent investigation resulted in a complete exoneration of President Joe Biden.
00:22:10.000For every document you discussed in your report, you found insufficient evidence that the president violated any laws about possession or retention of classified materials.
00:22:20.000I need to go back and make sure that I take note of the word that you used, exoneration.
00:22:25.000That is, I'm going to continue with my questions.
00:22:29.000I'm going to continue with my questions.
00:22:30.000I know that the term whether sufficient evidence existed such that the likely outcome of the conviction.
00:22:45.000And I just, so can we speculate why did he resign from the DOJ?
00:22:49.000Just that he wanted to be able to give a truthful testimony?
00:22:52.000And is it possible that her wanted to bring this case forward, was afraid that it would either lose with a DC jury or that the powers at B would squash you from DOJ?
00:23:02.000I mean, I'm getting those vibes from her.
00:23:04.000Well, so here's their, I think the Democrats are assuming that he is a partisan actor and that he wanted to resign from the DOJ so that he could essentially really go for the jugular here.
00:23:18.000And there are a few other clips that we need to play that would suggest that the Democrats and their suspicions could be at least partly right.
00:23:26.000I think Hur has taken so much criticism for this report.
00:23:30.000I would think he wanted the unvarnished truth.
00:23:32.000He wanted the opportunity to say what was really what he believed is the truth.
00:23:37.000And that's that, you know, essentially, he did not pursue charges because Joe Biden is not fit to be prosecuted.
00:23:44.000I think that is genuinely his only leg to stand on.
00:23:47.000And so he needed a clear lane to defend his reputation and say, hey, this is the facts.
00:23:55.000And there's also more damaging information that we're learning now today.
00:24:00.000And that's in this Cut 53 in this exchange with Jim Jordan, where he says that the ghostwriter that's responsible for the transcription of the interview with Joe Biden attempted to destroy the interview, the audio from the interview.
00:24:16.000So these are the types of, and we can play this clip 53, it's powerful, but these are the types of, you know, pieces of evidence that you wonder, would you have heard if he was being controlled by the upper echelon at the Department of Justice?
00:24:40.000Mr. Hur, what did that ghost writer do with the information Joe Biden shared with him on his laptop?
00:24:46.000What did he do after you were named special counsel?
00:24:50.000Chairman, if you're referring to the audio recordings that Mr. Zwanitzer created of his conversations with his recycled bin on his computer.
00:25:06.000Tried to destroy the evidence, didn't he?
00:25:13.000So the ghostwriter that was basically getting those interview, the audio from the interview with Joe Biden, he tried to, so when they were having the preliminary conversation with Joe Biden about these documents, and again, this is the evidence that leads Robert Hurr ultimately to say he had poor memory.
00:25:33.000This is at least part of the evidence.
00:25:35.000The ghostwriter tried to delete and destroy the evidence.
00:25:38.000So, you know, they, so Blake's got a note here.
00:25:43.000The narrative of Hurr's report in this hearing is that Biden kept classified docs so that he could make his memoirs better.
00:25:50.000So that's going to be the counterpoint from the Democrats.
00:25:54.000That's why he was keeping classified documents.
00:25:58.000And Robert Hurr is saying, well, you did keep classified documents.
00:26:03.000And you did it intentionally as a private citizen, but I'm not going to prosecute you because of your poor memory.
00:26:09.000But this evidence that's been, that was attempted to be deleted is part of what is now being subpoenaed.
00:26:18.000They want to get that entire transcript because it's going to underscore Robert Hurd's findings, presumably, that Joe Biden has a poor memory and he's lacking sufficient mental acuity to be prosecuted.
00:26:30.000So this is that central tension in this question.
00:26:33.000Either way, it's a massive PR loss for Joe Biden.
00:26:36.000And I think, you know, if you're a cynic, then you would say Robert Hur knows that prosecuting a sitting president is probably a fool's errand, but telling the world that he's lacking mental acuity is probably the biggest shot across the bow you could have in a short amount of time before November.
00:26:52.000And also, isn't it basically the argument that Hurr thought that Joe Biden could have won at trial because he could have just claimed mental problem, like mental acuity issues, essentially?
00:27:13.000It's like this wouldn't succeed because he's an old elderly man who can't remember anything.
00:27:18.000So that's, but I, but, but I'm, I'm sort of looking between the lines here.
00:27:22.000And if you're Robert Hurr, if you are a partisan, if I'm being a cynic, then this could be the most damage you could inflict upon Joe Biden in a short term.
00:27:31.000But we have no reason to think that Robert Hurr is that partisan as the Democrats are making him out to be.
00:27:37.000You know, he's he seems to be a man of integrity, an honest broker here, but the Democrats certainly want to paint him as a partisan actor in all of this.
00:27:46.000Yeah, I mean, I guess you can't have it both ways.
00:27:48.000You can't say, you know, too old to stand trial, but not too old to be president, right?
00:27:53.000You can't have it both ways, I suppose.
00:27:56.000Yeah, that's the central tension here.
00:27:57.000But I mean, it's there's a couple other clips that I think that are really telling in all of this, if we have enough time.
00:28:05.000The basically Cut 50 is probably the whole case laid out if we want to play that.
00:28:13.000My team and I conducted a thorough, independent investigation.
00:28:17.000We identified evidence that the president willfully retained classified materials after the end of his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.
00:28:26.000This evidence included an audio-recorded conversation during which Mr. Biden told his ghostwriter that he had, quote, just found all the classified stuff downstairs, end quote.
00:28:37.000When Mr. Biden said this, he was a private citizen speaking to his ghostwriter in his private rental home in Virginia.
00:28:45.000We also identified other recorded conversations during which Mr. Biden read classified information aloud to his ghostwriter.
00:28:59.000No, and so you see that you see the two-tier justice system at play here.
00:29:03.000Trump is getting is facing 700 plus years in federal prison, meanwhile, Joe Biden gets off scot-free with having a poor memory.
00:29:10.000Now, again, you know, it's a PR disaster for the Biden White House because it plays into a narrative that all of us can see with our own eyes that he's lost his edge.
00:29:20.000He's lost his ability to properly run the country.
00:29:23.000But it's also infuriating, and you can see why both sides are upset because he should be prosecuted.
00:29:29.000He knowingly handled classified documents and shared them with his ghostwriter of a memoir.
00:29:35.000So it's pretty infuriating either way you look at it.
00:32:28.000I'm not advocating for universal health care, but we have so many private actors that are making billions of dollars on the mutilation of children.
00:32:42.000We had the Attorney General of Tennessee on yesterday.
00:32:46.000They're now gathered 16 states to sue the state of Maine, but Maine is being really creative.
00:32:51.000They're making it so that if you're sort of, you could be now liable in a legal sense if you're not prescribing or treating gender dysphoric youth with some of these what they call gender-affirming care practices.
00:33:08.000So Maine is making it so that we're now liable in other states outside of Maine.
00:33:12.000Well, why don't we flip the script and start suing some of these states for mutilating kids?
00:33:20.000State AGs need to start protecting innocent kids.
00:33:23.000And then you need to start suing the states like California and Maine that are getting a little bit too out over their skis.
00:33:29.000And I think eventually you create so much liability in the system that the health providers are going to start feeling a little bit cautious about treating minors with this stuff.
00:33:41.000If you look at, you call it the sexual culture war, you look at the sexual revolution, gay marriage, abortion.
00:33:47.000This is the first time we're really starting to see massive backlash against one of these issues, especially with children.
00:33:57.000And I think President Trump should embrace it.
00:33:58.000Joe Biden is all in on the mutilation of children, on the castration of kids.
00:34:04.000I mean, that would be a, if they end up debating, it would be a very powerful debate moment for Donald Trump to say that you are okay, Joe Biden, with stuff that the United Kingdom is not even okay with, which is castrating kids, sterilizing them, puberty blockers.
00:34:18.000I think it's a winning political issue.
00:34:31.000You should make it so painful and expensive to even set foot in this area of medicine that we really get some wins and that they'll just be more reticent to even try it to begin with.
00:34:42.000And I think you could get 80% of the way there just with lawfare.
00:34:46.000There's a new wing at Mayo Clinic for just mutilating children.
00:34:50.000There's a lot of money to be made, but the message needs to get out.
00:34:52.000If you mutilate kids, you will go to jail and it will be retroactive.
00:34:55.000Doesn't matter if it was legal at the time.
00:34:57.000They need to go to jail if you touch and chop off kids' parts.