00:01:02.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:10.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:02:09.000Thank you for putting this together and for working so hard.
00:02:13.000And I think that's some Aztec art or something out there.
00:02:18.000I was going to do a whole speech about the Aztecs, but I don't need that.
00:02:21.000You guys know enough about it, or maybe you don't.
00:02:23.000Anyway, so I'm going to just talk about one thing super briefly, and then we're going to spend as much time as we can on question and answer.
00:02:31.000People have questions, and that's really why you're here, right?
00:02:35.000Come on, I want to see you talk to some people.
00:02:37.000So, I think it's actually a perfect thing to open up about, which is the most common question I get when I do change my mind, not this portion, but change my mind, which is, Charlie, why are you here?
00:03:01.000It's taxpayer-funded, you know, and if anything, it's all the students' campuses, you're right, it's not your campus.
00:03:07.000But it becomes this radical thing where a conservative comes on a campus and you want to have a conversation.
00:03:14.000And we truly believe at Turning Point USA, and why we're here tonight is the spirit of this, which is that free speech is the only thing that's going to keep us from permanent and severe and disgusting radicalism in this country.
00:03:28.000And we're going to have differences of opinions tonight.
00:03:30.000We did today, and I think we had some really great conversations.
00:03:57.000And that's what it's all about, to have differences of opinion and to try to go in the pursuit of truth.
00:04:02.000I always am interested, though, when they say, but why are you really here?
00:04:07.000As if there's like some sort of alternative agenda.
00:04:09.000So let me tell you what my agenda is, first and foremost.
00:04:11.000It's to support our amazing Turning Point USA students that are under assault every single day for their conservative views on college campuses, every single day.
00:04:19.000And they it is not easy to be a conservative on campus.
00:04:26.000And maybe it is at this campus, but you could tell me differently.
00:04:32.000Well, then it's like almost every other campus.
00:04:34.000The second thing is to give those of you that are not involved with Turning Point USA, you kind of look to your left and look to your right, you're like, whoa, there's a lot more conservatives and at least people that are open-minded these ideas on campus than I ever would have imagined.
00:04:46.000You see, one of the tricks of the left is they try to cast the spell of isolation, that you're the only one, that you don't have community.
00:04:55.000And the left, to their credit, they're really good at this.
00:04:57.000They constantly have marches and parades and they take over entire months of the calendar.
00:05:03.000And like we as conservatives, we kind of just are like, yeah, we have our viewpoints.
00:05:08.000And this is one of the reasons why, and we could talk about this later, why Trump rallies became so popular, is because it was like, oh my goodness, I'm not alone and I share my values with thousands of other people.
00:05:17.000And the third thing is this, which is I learned stuff by going to these campus events and we open up the mic and we have different conversations.
00:05:25.000And maybe those of you that are on the left that are here tonight, maybe you'll learn something too.
00:05:30.000And I will say that the people that hope to destroy this country, they do not believe free speech is a fundamental value.
00:05:49.000But it's also that if you have a very strong opinion and you're not willing to debate about it, then it's actually probably a really fragile opinion.
00:05:59.000You might believe it strongly, but it's a fragile opinion.
00:06:02.000And this is why long term, beyond just in the next five or ten years, why I think conservatives and young conservatives in particular, why we're ultimately going to be successful, is because in order to be a conservative on campus, you constantly have to be defending your belief system.
00:06:15.000You constantly have to know your facts and know how to respond to people always around you.
00:06:20.000Whereas if you're a libertarian just kind of fit in, you're like, okay, great, that's terrific.
00:06:23.000And you might be challenged here or there, but it's not heterodox to the norm of what the academy believes.
00:06:30.000And, you know, look, my job more than anything else is to try to speak to the next generation, speak to all people, and, you know, there's all ages here tonight, but is to try to point a different, try to paint a different picture of what does a conservative actually believe?
00:06:43.000What do we believe at Turning Point USA?
00:06:46.000And we might agree on part of it or disagree on other parts of it.
00:07:23.000Young people are the most depressed, suicidal, alcohol-addicted, and drug-addicted generation in history.
00:07:28.000And maybe we should start talking about why.
00:07:31.000Maybe it would be more interesting to me to find out why so many young people are committing suicide than systemic racism.
00:07:36.000I think that's probably a better national conversation to have.
00:07:38.000I guarantee every single one of you lost a friend or someone you know in your immediate circle to suicide in the last year or two years, or at least somebody that you're generally aware of.
00:07:45.000Like that's an actual national crisis that's happening.
00:07:47.000110,000 people drug overdose in our country every single year.
00:07:51.000And so I guess that kind of begins to answer the question of, why are you here?
00:07:54.000Well, I'm here to continue and hopefully reignite an American tradition, which is that no place is off-limits for conservatives to go and speak.
00:08:02.000And you will see that we're not afraid of any sort of different ideas.
00:08:04.000You guys can bring any sort of perspective you want, and we can have at it.
00:08:09.000And I will say that the side that is most willing to engage in debate, robust discussion, is one that is going to be willing and being able to build large consensus over a period of time.
00:08:20.000And I want to say this, you know, to the credit of the students on the campus today where we had a conversation.
00:08:41.000But so I want to get to some questions, but I'll kind of reiterate this point: we as human beings are the speaking beings.
00:08:48.000It's our ability to make reason of a very confusing world.
00:08:53.000And as soon as we stop speaking, we are going to get into some sort of very dark chapter here in America.
00:08:59.000And there is an assault on free speech, unlike anything we've ever seen in the West right now.
00:09:02.000Whether it be restriction of speech on social media, praise God for Elon Musk for purchasing Twitter.
00:09:08.000I can never call it X. It'll always be Twitter to me.
00:09:11.000And opening it up so that people can speak freely.
00:09:14.000And especially, you know, I got my Twitter account back, so I'm kind of biased.
00:09:17.000I was banned under the prior regime and dictatorship that we had there.
00:09:22.000But it's also, you might learn something.
00:09:24.000You might have your boundaries pushed.
00:09:25.000And if we have any hope of saving this country, it will be able to go to a place where you're not in the ideological majority, having a difference of opinion, seeing some common ground and having clarity and not necessarily agreement.
00:09:37.000Okay, with that, let's get to why you guys are all here.
00:09:39.000Let's get right into question and answer.
00:10:14.000So with that being said, if someone who is on the left or someone who is a liberal comes up and asks a question, it is tempting to want to mock them or laugh or they might say something silly.
00:10:44.000And so I wanted to ask you today: how can we help today's first-time voters understand the importance of protecting the rights of the individual, especially our children, which here in our own state of California are trying to get the Protect Kids California initiative on the ballot?
00:10:59.000I think the Protect Kids initiative is here, isn't it?
00:11:02.000Just so everyone knows, this is one of the most important things that's happening in the country.
00:11:06.000Here in the state of California, you can undergo hormone replacement and quote-unquote transgender care without even notification of your parent.
00:11:36.000Amazingly, the alphabet mafia, which is the transgender jihadis, they don't want this to go on the ballot because the party of democracy is really worried that people might vote against their special interests.
00:11:50.000But it turns out that the vast majority of people do not believe that 13-year-olds should be on puberty blockers.
00:11:56.000The vast majority of people do not believe that 14-year-olds should have hysterectomies or breast replacement removal surgeries.
00:12:03.000Chloe Cole here, she was here earlier.
00:12:05.000I encourage you guys to look at Chloe Kohl's social media content.
00:12:21.000She was someone that was sold the lie of the trans poison and the trans agenda and regrets it and is now an advocate to try to warn children about how much damage that could be done by the trans agenda.
00:13:04.000First of all, thank you to your family for coming here legally.
00:13:07.000We need more of that and that needs to be the standard.
00:13:10.000Yeah, I mean, people that come into this country illegally are line cutters, border jumpers, and they're squatting in our country and they should all be deported and sent back to their country of origin.
00:13:34.000Oh, yeah, I'm claiming asylum from China or Azerbaijan or Russia.
00:13:37.000Over 115 countries are represented now on the invasion happening on the southern border.
00:13:42.000Just so we're clear, anywhere between 10 to 15,000 people are walking into this country without DNA testing right now, without background testing.
00:13:49.000We know at least well over 1,500 people on the Department of Homeland Security terror watch list have walked across the southern border.
00:13:55.000Praise God, Border Patrol was able to find one person three days ago that was walking across the border and he said, hey, I want to go bomb New York City.
00:14:03.000Thankfully that flags somebody like, hey, maybe we should ask this guy some more questions.
00:14:06.000Praise God for Border Patrol for actually doing their job and finding this guy.
00:14:10.000He said it, a quote, I want to go bomb New York City.
00:14:12.000But I think it's reprehensible and disgusting that your families waiting in line, filling out the paperwork, and waiting your turn and paying fees is somehow a moral equivalent with someone that flies to Mexicali, goes to a bus to the Yuma-Mexico border, claims asylum, and cuts in line while you guys had to do it the right way.
00:14:35.000We're a nation of laws, we're a nation of order, and every single person who breaks our immigration law should be returned to their country of origin.
00:14:51.000I'm the president of University of San Diego College Republicans.
00:14:54.000My question is, with growing security state and most media becoming blatant propaganda, a lot of people feel like they're the small individual.
00:15:29.000Inflation is the continual slow-motion suicide of the U.S. dollar.
00:15:33.000And this is going to sound, you know, it's going to be taken out of context, but I don't care.
00:15:37.000I think that anyone who's serious about self-sovereignty should own weapons and know how to use them and own them responsibly.
00:15:42.000And I think that what we're seeing right now is We're seeing a rise in crime across the country while they're simultaneously trying to take our weapons away from us.
00:15:53.000And it's not about fear-mongering, but the standard norm of human history is chaos, bedlam, war, division, strife, civil conflict.
00:16:01.000We're all born into kind of a very stable country in a sense, and we're seeing it destabilize in front of our eyes.
00:16:32.000You can run for office, support those that do, support the petition signatures.
00:16:36.000And I'm optimistic because there's so much fight left in the American people.
00:16:40.000We are being pummeled right now by this regime every single day.
00:16:44.000They are trying to destabilize the country.
00:16:46.000There is a theory called the Cloward Piven political strategy or political theory that was introduced by political theorists back in the 1960s, 1970s.
00:16:54.000And they said the way that we are going to get left-wing domination, the way that we are going to get Marxist politics, is by three things: building a permanent deep state bureaucracy in Washington, D.C., borrowing so much money that we'll never be able to pay back, and bankrupting the country, and having mass migration of people from all over the world and flooding the citizen immigration.
00:17:12.000I wonder what those three things would ever look like if they came into practice.
00:17:27.000They're trying to overload the system so they can break it, so then they can build whatever comes next.
00:17:32.000And if we have anything to say about it, we're going to say no and keep on building something that's bold and beautiful and hopefully rooted in traditional conservative American values and principles.
00:17:47.000My name is Peyton Clyden, and I am the treasurer for the San Diego State Turning Point Chapter.
00:17:52.000I have a quick question about what happened last week with the Ken Buck situation.
00:17:57.000And obviously, I listened to your show.
00:17:59.000I listened to a couple other shows where they said that Lauren Boebert, who is the current sitting representative in I think the 4th Colorado District, she was going to be moving to the 3rd district to replace Ken Buck eventually when he retired or not retired, but got a CNN position at the end of his term.
00:18:19.000So I've heard from you and then particularly Dan Bongino.
00:18:23.000I listen to him a lot, but they're mentioning that Boebert has to run or she can't run in the primary and in the runoff for the seat that Ken Buck is vacating.
00:18:47.000So, just everyone knows the House of Representatives, the House of Republicans now have a one-seat majority because Ken Buck has now inexplicably resigned to go work for CNN.
00:18:55.000So, long story short, Lauren Boebert can't run for the new seat.
00:18:59.000This was basically a coup by Colorado center-right, center-left Democrats, very, very far-left Democrats, and people that call themselves Republicans in Colorado.
00:19:07.000Without getting too deep into the weeds, it's just bad news across the board, basically, for Republicans.
00:19:11.000And hopefully, we'll be able to sort it out in November.
00:19:13.000But Lauren Boebert has to stay in the harder-to-win, more competitive seat in a different part of the state.
00:20:53.000But being fit and having more energy is way better than eating what you want all the time.
00:20:58.000And we are a chronically obese country.
00:21:00.000Heart disease is the number one killer of Americans, followed by all sorts of liver failure, kidney failure, things that happen because of obesity.
00:21:08.000And I think we have to reject this idea that, well, you're perfect the way you are.
00:21:12.000Some people naturally put on weight more than others, but being obese is a choice.
00:21:18.000Outside of a chronic medical condition, I might have come across one where you're like dehabilitated in a bed for like years on end.
00:21:24.000Even then, I don't know if you have to become obese.
00:21:26.000Being obese is a choice, and we have done way too much pandering to try to accommodate society for what quite honestly is a lifestyle choice.
00:21:36.000And we are one of the fattest countries on the planet.
00:21:39.000What we are feeding our kids is a disgrace, high-fructose corn syrup to the highly processed foods, to the cereal, to the Twinkies, to all that nonsense that we give our kids.
00:21:51.000And not to mention what we are drinking all the time from the caffeinated, not just the caffeinated beverages, the energy drinks across the board.
00:22:01.000So yeah, I think that the conservative movement should stand for a restoration of everybody being the best version of themselves, which is, you know, hey, maybe you need to lose 10 or 15 pounds.
00:22:10.000And that is actually a loving thing to say because if you lose that 10 or 15 pounds, you're going to feel better.
00:22:43.000I'm just going to start off and say that I disagree with you on a lot of things.
00:22:46.000And specifically, I'd like to ask about how you and the people you associate with, the people you provide a platform for, often say things that are a lot of rhetoric that's definitely against the LGBT community, like the comedian on here earlier who was making fun of a trans person.
00:23:01.000And I'm just wondering how you feel that this kind of rhetoric, pushed primarily by the right, maybe influences the phenomenon that are observed, such as LGBT people having higher rates of suicide.
00:23:10.000How do you think that that might play into the not at all?
00:23:20.000Are a bunch of Christians committing suicide because of all the anti-Christian films, music, and jokes that have permeated Hollywood the last 30 years?
00:23:32.000You cannot watch a Simpsons episode, a Family Guy season, a Netflix special, Hulu special without, you know, oh, this pastor is unfaithful, one-off joke about the hypocrisy of the church, or, oh, this Catholic priest is a pedophile, or oh my goodness, they're covering for their licentiousness.
00:24:35.000I can't hear you when they're clapping.
00:24:37.000It's because people, I mean, society in general, you mentioned earlier that bill about making it so that a school will not have to tell parents about the kids being trans.
00:24:45.000That's because many people live in a household in which they would not be accepted for that.
00:25:07.000If you come home and say, as a 15-year-old boy, and say, I think I'm a girl, you need someone to say, I love you enough not to accept your lie.
00:27:51.000So it's saying like this, for example, in a normal human being, you're born with two arms and two legs.
00:27:55.000If someone's born without a leg, we don't say, oh my goodness, you know, that changes the entire human species.
00:28:01.000And it's an exception to the rule, not the rule itself.
00:28:04.000And so intersex is a deformity of a rule.
00:28:07.000And the rule is very clear that there is male and female.
00:28:10.000Even intersex people will either have the capacity to procreate from male with you know with semen or with women with an egg.
00:28:18.000So the question I will remain go back to: biologically, socially, culturally, environmentally, whatever you want to call it, what other categories besides male and female in the animal kingdom of homeo sapens are there?
00:28:30.000Biologically, you could say that there are essentially no more, but that's biologically.
00:28:34.000And if you think about social media, so now we're getting somewhere else.
00:28:37.000If you identify as a man or woman, that is a choice of how you want to employ yourself in society.
00:29:15.000Let's just say differences of male and female differences of needs, wants, desires, attitudes, traits.
00:29:22.000Why is it that females like certain musical artists and men gravitate more towards the UFC?
00:29:28.000Why is it that a Taylor Swift concert is 99% female and a UFC event is 99% male?
00:29:34.000Were they told from a young age, you must like combat sports and you must like pop singers that only sing a certain way?
00:29:41.000Or is it that maybe there's something biological that resonates more with what Taylor Swift is presenting and more with the honestly brutal hand-to-hand combat that you'd see at the UFC?
00:29:51.000How can you not recognize that any of this is social?
00:29:54.000Pop music, all music is a social phenomenon.
00:30:04.000Can you point to a single instance of when there was a controlled variable study of when a child was given a different gender than the sex one than what they were given at sex and they were able to live a full, mature and flourishing life?
00:30:18.000Meaning that they, meaning, for example, do you know about the John Money experiment where they had identical twins and one of the kids tragically had basically his genitalia seared off and John Money?
00:30:33.000You're just barely dipping into the waters of the trans toxicity, my friend, which is John Money is the New Zealand 1950s, 1960 theorist who came up with this idea of gender.
00:30:45.000So before John Money, there was sex and personality.
00:30:50.000So for example, we have two sexes, zero genders, unlimited personalities.
00:30:55.000John Money said, no, no, gender is this whole new concept and anybody can pick their gender at any time.
00:31:00.000And so what he did is there was twins.
00:31:02.000One of the kids seared off his genitalia, said, I'm going to raise this kid as a girl.
00:31:08.000And the kid had whole life had higher testosterone rates.
00:31:12.000Wanted to always play with trucks and was saying, no, no, you're a girl.
00:31:16.000And despite all the social phenomenon, he ended up being told at age 16, you actually were a biological boy.
00:31:22.000Said it was the most important thing anyone ever told me because I knew I was a boy my entire life and everyone was telling me I was a girl.
00:31:28.000And that John Money experiment, the guy who came up with the idea of gender itself, participated in the greatest clinical self-own in scientific history, where even he could not get a Tabula Rasa, a blank slate of a child who was saying, Hey, you're a girl, we're going to raise you as a girl.
00:31:44.000Turns out that boys will be boys and girls will be girls, regardless of how much you try to change them.
00:32:00.000And I'd like to point out that you mentioned this idea of feeling like they were trapped in the wrong gender's body, which is how millions of trans youth throughout the world.
00:32:18.000Because it's not correlated with their biological reality.
00:32:21.000For example, they believe that, oh my goodness, I'm really a boy, I'm really a girl.
00:32:26.000Okay, well, where's the evidence of that?
00:32:28.000And by the way, the majority of young people that say that they're quote-unquote trans are autistic, they have behavioral type issues, they have underlying health conditions, depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety.
00:32:38.000To go back to your original question, why do so many trans people end up A, either committing violence or B, committing suicide?
00:32:44.000Number one, they don't get the actual watchful waiting type treatment that is necessary that's been proven successful by clinicians like Dr. Miriam Grossman over the last 30 years.
00:32:54.000Instead of acting as if puberty is the problem, puberty is the solution.
00:32:57.000When a 15-year-old girl says, oh my goodness, I feel I'm a boy, we say, okay, let's wait it out.
00:33:02.000Let's wait nine months, and maybe you might feel differently.
00:33:05.000Every girl in this audience will tell you there was a time when they were growing up where they did not feel comfortable in their body, but they grew through it.
00:33:11.000And praise God, we did not give every girl in this audience testosterone because they felt uncomfortable with their body.
00:33:20.000Secondly, secondly, on top of that, the idea that somehow we're going to give a false hope to a 16-year-old, that chemicals are going to make you feel better, and then just another surgery, and then just another intervention.
00:33:33.000It leads you down this rabbit trail where you are a shell of a human being, where you no longer have the parts you were born with.
00:33:39.000God forbid, if you have regret, like Chloe Cole, who's just right behind you, by the way, who was sold that lie, and she may never be able to have children again because of what the trans industry has done.
00:33:48.000And Chloe, I hope you sue them for a billion dollars and put them all in prison for what they did for you.
00:34:07.000However, that is a strong moral agreement.
00:34:10.000You're making a little straw man here.
00:34:11.000You're assuming that the majority of these cases are young people who are being forced to transition either through surgery or hormones.
00:34:19.000In the vast majority of these cases, that's not what it is.
00:34:22.000It's people either as an adult transitioning or when they're young, they're choosing to identify differently, to dress differently, to present themselves differently.
00:34:29.000Not necessarily to go through a surgery or hormones.
00:34:52.000Dress as Cinderella, dress as a wolf, not the problem.
00:34:56.000The issue is when you storm the HR department and say, Sam used the wrong pronouns, and I think they should be disciplined for that.
00:35:03.000And now we all have to use these pronoun markers in our bio to cater to a fringe minority that's so fragile, that is so weak that you can't possibly tolerate the idea of somebody mispronouning you or misgendering you.
00:37:15.000It's been an honor to be here, by the way, and I have a lot of respect for you.
00:37:18.000Watching your videos helped me learn how things really are in America and helped me make a lot of friends.
00:37:24.000However, I can't agree with all of the things you said.
00:37:27.000I agree with 90% of the things you said, but there's one or two things I have to disagree with, or maybe I've just misunderstood it for now.
00:37:35.000I apologize if you didn't say this, but I've heard you say that you want to limit legal immigration in this country.
00:37:42.000And I think President Trump seems to also stand for removing the H-1B program, which allows international students to work legally after they graduate.
00:37:51.000For me, it just doesn't make sense because international students mostly come with engineering degrees, medical degrees, nurses, a lot of valuable things that can be very productive for this country's economy.
00:38:34.000That the students here that are American-born, American-raised, and been American-invested in, that are studying to become nurses and engineers, they should be given priority above foreigners.
00:38:44.000And I don't mean this as an insult because you seem like an American-loving, great person.
00:38:48.000And honestly, if we had a real working immigration system, we should have more people like you, regardless of the H-1B system, that would come to this country.
00:38:55.000And I'm somewhat torn because you're a great ambassador of someone who loves the country and wants to continue this tradition.
00:39:01.000Unfortunately, we don't see as much of that as we would like.
00:39:04.000But the biggest thing is this, is that we have a social contract to American-born citizens, as almost any industrialized country does, right?
00:39:12.000Which is first and foremost, if the people in this room, one metric I'll give to you, it's harder and harder to own a home in this country.
00:39:19.000Prior to COVID, it was average annual salary of $59,000 a year to own a home four years ago.
00:39:25.000Now, according to Zillow.com, the average needs to be $106,000 a year to own a home.
00:39:31.000And it's much higher here in California, by the way.
00:39:33.000It's about $135,000 to $140,000 a year, okay?
00:39:37.000So in economics, you have to make decisions.
00:39:39.000And we fully acknowledge that when you restrict the labor supply, you're going to see higher wages because of the restriction of the labor supply.
00:39:48.000So my perspective is that we have had this flooding of the system of both illegal and legal immigration, and we need a slowing and cooling off period where we can start to put the young people of this country that no longer are able to have the same very basic promises their parents are able to have, buying homes, owning property, having a family.
00:40:08.000And I'm not saying that immigration is necessarily always the problem.
00:40:11.000There are immigrants that contribute beautifully to this country.
00:40:14.000But when it comes specifically with the H-1B1 issue, H-1B is indentured servitude.
00:40:18.000I don't know how much you know about this or not, but you're not allowed to leave the company that you work for, basically.
00:40:23.000It is lobbied by the tech companies for the tech companies.
00:40:41.000You are the toughest case to try to push back against because we kind of made the decision, I'm not saying for better or for worse, to bring you into the country to educate you.
00:40:49.000And then you say, hey, I'm here, I want to stay.
00:40:52.000It's very difficult to build political consensus to say, hey, go back to your country of origin, right?
00:40:56.000So I'm not trying to overly personalize the policy here, but I will say, though, that absent some sort of a normalization of our legal immigration process, our own computer engineering students, our own data scientists, our own American workers are going to have to compete with foreigners that never had to be invested in at the same level.
00:41:20.000The reason America is such a great country is because it allows people from everywhere in the world to have a fair battleground where they can...
00:41:31.000I mean, my father served 20 years for the U.S. government as well while not being a U.S. citizen.
00:41:36.000I don't want to get in too much detail, but I think when you allow people from all the countries to come here legally and give them that equal opportunity, I think it gives birth to people like Elon Musk, who is also a legal immigrant.
00:41:48.000Elon's a great example of how immigration could be a net asset.
00:42:11.000You want to make something of your life.
00:42:13.000However, my immediate concern is native-born Americans of all different races, by the way.
00:42:19.000This goes black, Hispanic, Asian, it's not a race thing, that are consistently put second and third in line for the needs, wants, and interests of either bigger corporate profits, you know, a maximized global experiment, or quote, esoteric economic growth.
00:42:32.000I want to see 18 to 30-year-olds see real wage growth, be able to own property and flourish a little bit, and then we can start to consider opening up the legal immigration parameters a little bit more.
00:42:57.000And often I noticed that wrestling with males growing up made me stronger against females.
00:43:03.000Now, where would you put that divide between equality and obviously gender differences in athletics and in sports?
00:43:13.000Yeah, so can I ask you a question in wrestling in, let's just say, age category of like collegiate female wrestling and collegiate male wrestling.
00:43:24.000Could the best female collegiate wrestler compete with like an average male wrestler at the same weight class?
00:43:39.000If a female XX chromosomes wants to compete against men, like more power to them.
00:43:45.000My bigger concern, though, is XY chromosomes coming into XX chromosome competitions and trying to use their inherent muscular advantage, their bone density advantage, cardiovascular ability to then basically cheat their way to a championship.
00:44:01.000And the most famous example, of course, is Mr. Thomas from University of Pennsylvania.
00:44:06.000Mr. Thomas, for those of you keeping score at home, that cheated and decided he wanted an NCAA championship, and he was a mediocre swimmer before he went into the female competition.
00:46:08.000No, let me just contribute this as a fellow brother in Christ.
00:46:12.000When we as Christians go to Israel, we are celebrated and treated like the most amazing you could ever imagine, okay?
00:46:18.000So I'm positive that there are radical, you know, Hasidic sects that believe certain things as are written in parts of the Talmud where they have anti-Christian beliefs.
00:46:30.000That is not my experience with mainline Israeli belief or mainline Judaism.
00:47:09.000And it convicted me in the clearest possible terms that the Bible is real, the Bible is true, and it showed me, it made it come to life for me.
00:47:33.000I do not put up with the persecution of holy sites, and I stand up for my religion.
00:47:39.000But I will say this: that I've always been treated very decently and very well when I went to Israel, and access to my holy sites and access to the archaeological truth of the Bible is something that I believe is not just a good for America, but for the world.
00:47:53.000And being able to prove that the Bible is true, be able to see that the little coins of King Hezekiah, to be able to go to Mount Carmel and see, like, oh my goodness, that's where Elijah threw it down with King Ahab.
00:48:03.000To be able to go to Mount Sinai and say, that is where God delivered the greatest moral app in human history, the Decalogue, right?
00:48:11.000That the Western civilization is built upon.
00:48:39.000My name is Chloe, and I am a detransitioner from the San Joaquin Valley of California.
00:48:45.000And I would like to ask, how can organizations like Turning Point continue to partner with detransitioners like myself to make real tangible social and legislative change?
00:49:17.000I get threats all the time just for doing my work and my advocacy.
00:49:21.000I am a formerly trans-identified teen, and I went through the process of going through a medical gender transition and miraculously coming back out of it all before the age of 18.
00:49:32.000I started calling myself a boy at 12 years old after years of dealing with undiagnosed neurodivergence, body image issues, and early puberty, and simply just growing up as a tomboy with normal feelings of distress around my body.
00:49:46.000And yet at 13 years old, I was fast-tracking the process of medical transitioning.
00:49:50.000So I was put on Lupron to suppress my puberty.
00:49:53.000Just a few months later, they put me on my first shot of testosterone to masculinize my body.
00:49:57.000And at 15 years old, I underwent my first and only surgery during this time, which was a radical double mastectomy to remove my breasts.
00:50:04.000And this was the summer after my sophomore year of high school.
00:50:08.000Less than a year later, I realized that I regretted every single part of this, that I wanted to grow into a woman, that I wanted to become a mother, and that no matter what I did to my body, no matter what these doctors did to my body, it would never actually make me into a boy.
00:50:25.000And Chloe, first I'll give it up for her.
00:51:01.000There is no such thing as being born in the wrong body because the way that we're made, whether we're male or female, old or young, sick or healthy, our life, our body, is a gift.
00:51:14.000And our sex, our roles in society are to be celebrated.
00:51:43.000So I do kind of similar things to Chloe, and I'm very proud that this year I'm actually releasing a memoir about how I survived the transgender cult.
00:52:00.000So, my question is: you know, there's a lot of D-transitioners that I know who obviously have severe psychological damage, PTSD, and that damages their ability to trust groups or to move on.
00:52:11.000And so, a lot of D-transitioners that I know are skeptical of the rights and the rights' motives because basically they worry about falling into another manipulation, just like they did on the left.
00:52:23.000So, my question is: how can conservatives provide assurance to de-transitioners that it's safe to find community on the right and that they won't be swept under the rug once we succeed in fighting gender ideology?
00:53:24.000They definitely use intimidation and name-calling.
00:53:27.000And so, you know, I would just say also judge us by our fruit.
00:53:31.000Judge us by how, over a long period of time, detransitioners are treated at turning point.
00:53:37.000I think we treat everyone with respect, and I've just been so inspired to learn from Chloe first and foremost.
00:53:43.000And that's the last thing I'll say: is that we more have a posture of we want to learn from you, not tell you.
00:53:49.000I've learned more from Chloe Cole about the intricacies of all of this than almost anybody else because she was in the operating room going under general anesthesia from the transgender cult.
00:53:59.000So I hear the skepticism, I hear the concern.
00:54:03.000And the more detransitioners that ever want to come to our event, that ever want to speak out, they're always welcome.
00:54:09.000And, you know, this is a safe organization for them that will celebrate them and help them recover from the trauma they experienced.
00:55:06.000Like, you're guaranteed a spot in the College of Your Dreams.
00:55:09.000And I've been told that by many of my teachers.
00:55:12.000And I wanted to ask you what you thought about it because I refuse to believe that I'm going to be accepted into the College of My Dreams due to the color of my skin or the underrepresentation of my people.
00:55:34.000Affirmative action always puts one person above another based on characteristics that I don't think are important.
00:55:40.000And you have just beautifully isolated what is so deeply morally wrong about affirmative action, which is you've studied really hard, I imagine, right?
00:55:50.000You've applied yourself, and your teachers are looking at you as a skin color.
00:55:54.000They're not looking at you as someone with good character, good test grade, someone that shows up and does all the extra homework.
00:56:00.000They're obsessed with your skin color.
00:56:35.000They're not going to assume that you had good grades, that you could have gotten in on your own merits, which, based on how articulate you ask the question, you probably could.
00:56:43.000Then all of a sudden you're going to have this hanging over your head of people that might say, is she there because of affirmative action?
00:56:48.000Is they she there because of these policies?
00:56:51.000We want a society based on how hard somebody works, how hard they apply themselves, the content of their character, not just what they look like.
00:56:59.000And so I'm glad to see the Supreme Court that came in and say that parts of affirmative action are unconstitutional, and I think we need more of it.
00:57:06.000And I think that you're a great example of that because you want to be judged by your work, not just the underrepresentation of your people.
00:57:32.000Since meeting you a few short hours ago, I've already had numerous people remove me on Instagram and tell me they can no longer be my friends because I'm here at a free event learning both sides of the spectrum.
00:57:43.000Anyway, oh, and I also forgot to tell you my pronouns.
00:59:14.000And I might not agree for some of the lifestyle choices that some people make, but of course not.
00:59:19.000And if someone said, Charlie, what's your view on marriage?
00:59:21.000I'd say, I believe marriage is between one man and one woman.
00:59:24.000But if you ask me, do I have hate in my heart for somebody that doesn't choose the lifestyle that I believe that God laid out in the scriptures?
01:01:18.000Inflation is when you have more of a currency and fewer goods and services, and when the currency or the dollar or the money is outpacing or is more than the goods and services, when that balance goes out of whack, when you have more dollars than people know what to do with it.
01:01:33.000That's why you see the stock market creeping up to 40,000 points, even though it's not correlated to economic growth.
01:01:38.000It's not correlated with robust consumer confidence.
01:01:47.000Well, neither political party in D.C. is serious about fixing it, unfortunately.
01:01:50.000And the way we need to fix it is we need to dramatically cut federal spending, dramatically cut federal spending.
01:01:56.000We need to come together, both political parties, and balance our budget because we are stealing money from future generations.
01:02:02.000And the normal things that are in front of you that would have been in front of your parents' generation are coming more and more out of reach for all of you.
01:02:09.000So cut federal spending, and then we need to audit the Federal Reserve because the Federal Reserve is a criminal enterprise.
01:03:38.000BDS, just so you know, is Boycott Divestment Sanctions, which is a Jew hatred movement to try to blockade Israel by misrepresenting Israel as an apartheid state.
01:04:16.000So my question is, sorry, I'm nervous.
01:04:22.000How is the best way to solve homelessness and crime in America?
01:04:28.000Because it has, I come from Tijuana, and when I got here, I always hear about America being the greatest nation where no one is poor, you know?
01:04:41.000And then when I got here, I remember the first time I went to San Diego downtown, it was horrible.
01:05:26.000For example, if you go to a local hospital between 1 and 5 a.m., I guarantee there'll be two to three homeless people every night that run into traffic.
01:05:51.000And so we need to do what we once did in this country, which is we love you.
01:05:55.000We're not going to allow you on the streets.
01:05:57.000We're going to nicely and kindly pick you up and we're going to bring you to a homeless shelter.
01:06:00.000And if you come back again, we're going to bring you back to the homeless shelter.
01:06:03.000And I, for one, do not want to raise my child in a country where I have to tell her what to do when she's playing in a playground if she encounters a hypodermic needle.
01:06:12.000That is literally there are guidelines in Seattle and Portland public schools of what kids, what to do if you're a seven or eight-year-old, if you come across a hypodermic needle.
01:06:21.000And that is the excesses of allowing a fringe population to basically manipulate the standard of living of the rest of us.
01:06:40.000I come from the northern part of San Diego.
01:06:43.000I have a question alongside with a fun question.
01:06:46.000So question is, what's your message for our generations who are very anxious from issues ranging from elections or future elections to family issues?
01:06:59.000And then the fun question is, I was wondering if you're a Star Trek fan, is there a Mr. Spock on board?
01:07:26.000This is not the official position of Turning Point USA, but I sure hope that Donald Trump wins in November, and I think all of you agree, okay?
01:07:34.000And if he wins, if he wins, I think it will be a lifeline for the country.
01:07:43.000But don't act like your life is going to be amazingly better just because someone wins an election.
01:07:48.000You might still, you still need to get married.
01:09:09.000I just wanted to ask you, well, with everything that's going on with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and how he has been trialed as almost like criminal and sent to re-education, and they're wanting to revoke his license and censor him and not let him speak.
01:10:50.000And over these past 40 years, from barely graduating high school to not even being able to afford college, he's been able to build himself up and he's been able to live the American dream, which is something that I'm very proud that he's been able to do.
01:11:02.000What we've able to see here, especially at SDSU, I go to USD, is the lack of hatred for America from students that live here who haven't gone to any other countries, where they talk down about it, saying America is a colonizing country, that we need to do this, this, and this to help all these people because we're such a bad country and just hating it in general.
01:11:27.000So what would your solution be for us conservatives to fix that, as well as how can we fix ourselves as a country to be more to put God first?
01:11:36.000Because three years ago, I'm part of the College of Republicans at USD.
01:11:43.000When there was a lot of protests, there was students saying that it's very bad to say, but that God raped Mary, that a lot of bad and a lot of derogatory stuff towards Jesus and God.
01:11:53.000And this is a private Catholic university.
01:12:14.000We know the type in the evangelical world, too.
01:12:18.000This is what drives me nuts, is that historians are going to look back on America and wonder why so many millions of people had it so great and they decided to hate the country that gave them so much.
01:12:30.000It is the sociological question of our time.
01:13:06.000And this is why President Donald Trump is so successful right now, and I hope he continues to be.
01:13:10.000Because he's the only one right now that says, hey, maybe we should stop hurting ourselves and start being Americans again and rebuild our country from within.
01:13:34.000There've been multiple people talking about it, including that last guy.
01:13:36.000So I think I can answer your question as someone who was once suicidal about why people feel like that.
01:13:44.000During those suicidal times, I felt very alone and in the sense of like not having that community like has been mentioned before, you know, community, whether that be within the Catholic community or then or amongst friends or just amongst the general public area.
01:14:03.000So and then amongst that, also, like was mentioned before, I have been fired for discrimination just the moment people find out I'm Catholic, they find any type of complaint to go against me and then and the way that they write it up on papers, I can't really fight it.
01:14:20.000So my question is how to, what is the best, in your opinion, what is the best approach to reach out to people that like used to be me that were suicidal but don't feel like that feeling of loneliness and they just drag themselves deeper into that pit of feeling alone.
01:14:37.000First of all, thank you for your testimony.
01:14:40.000Can you just repeat the question exactly that you want me to answer because there's so much there?
01:14:45.000What do you suggest for how can people reach out more to those who have that feeling of loneliness?
01:15:26.000Your friends might not be able to reach you.
01:15:27.000They might have to go, I don't know, knock on your door and find you like the way it was, you know, in a different time, in a different place.
01:15:33.000And so, yeah, that's what I honor the Sabbath and keep that day holy.
01:15:42.000I think it would solve some, not all, of the mental health issues that some people are facing.
01:15:46.000And then finally, we have a crisis of isolation.
01:15:50.000We need more young people to get married and have families.
01:15:52.000We need more people to be part of faith communities.
01:15:55.000And finally, I also, I know this might sound a little, I don't know, like hippie, but I really believe they're poisoning us with a lot of the food that we eat in this country.
01:16:04.000And I think you have to be very careful with what you eat and what you consume.
01:16:10.000At least do a little more research about, you know, macros and micros.
01:16:14.000There's only three types of food, fats, proteins, and carbohydrates.
01:16:17.000You don't need any carbohydrates to live, and they actually might be hurting you.
01:16:20.000I'm not here to give like wide-sweeping nutritional advice, but at least for me, when I cut out basically all carbs, it was like a great thing for me.
01:16:26.000My body just doesn't handle it well and lost a bunch of weight and have a lot of energy.
01:16:32.000But the way that it currently is, we eat almost all carbohydrates, the bad types of fats, and not enough protein.
01:16:40.000And so we end up getting super overweight, and our blood work is terrible, and we get type 2 diabetes and heart disease and all that other stuff.
01:16:46.000So anyway, I just live a deliberate life and live with intentionality.
01:16:50.000And for those of you that are doing great, find someone who isn't and try to be their friend and try to be there for them.
01:16:56.000Because we're living through a major mental health crisis.
01:17:32.000Human beings, in my belief and in any sort of observation of human nature, are viciously self-interested, and they will not act communally, whether ever given an opportunity to do so otherwise.
01:17:45.000So we are not communal social creatures, as postulated by either Rousseau or Marx.
01:17:50.000In fact, we're far more self-interested and sinful in our disposition.
01:17:55.000And that is why communism has never worked and will never work, unless you have an example you can point to.
01:19:17.000So your idea is, because I want to take every idea seriously, is we nationalize the meth industry and it will be so poorly run, no one will get their meth on time.
01:19:29.000And there'll be like TSA waiting lines to get your meth.
01:19:37.000They'll like take every possible federal holiday off and people will stop doing meth because the delivery mechanism and the production, they'll be like 10 years delayed in making meth and people will just give it up.
01:20:53.000I do want to see the messages for myself so I could speak precisely, because I don't believe the media, when they say they're racist messages, I want to know exactly what they are.
01:21:01.000This is a group of 16-year-olds, right?
01:21:06.000That's a group of 15, okay, 14 and 15-year-olds.
01:21:09.000They were in a group chat, some as young as 13, that were posting, let's just say, gross things in a private group message that the media is telling us is racist.
01:21:21.000Let's pretend it's as vile and as racist as it gets.
01:21:24.000They are now going to face criminal penalties under incitement of violence and hate crime laws.
01:22:21.000I want to see the charging documents and the indictment.
01:22:24.000But based on everything that I have learned, it is one of the grossest overreaches of government power.
01:22:29.000And this is going to come after everybody then.
01:22:33.000If you now make an off-color text message, things I said in this speech, I say, you're inciting violence because of all this, I find it to be awful, and I hope that they lose on appeal.
01:22:44.000And I hope these kids don't kill themselves.
01:22:46.000Because, I mean, could you imagine all of a sudden you're now a national news story because you were posting stuff in a bunch of group chats that you now regret, and you're 13 years old?
01:22:57.000We're now going to hold people as their moral worth for the rest of their life for what they do when they're 13 years old.