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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 Andrew Colvet, executive producer of this show.

00:01:14.000 I now am joined by Blake Neff, our not so secret weapon.

00:01:18.000 And uh we're honored to have uh somebody that maybe this audience wouldn't expect us to have on the show, but it's for a very important conversation, and that is Chris Cuomo, host of Cuomo on News Nation, a show that I had the uh pleasure of going on last night and talking about some really important things.

00:01:35.000 And uh, we talked after the show, and he agreed to join us right here on this show as well.

00:01:40.000 So, Chris, welcome to the show, and thank you for making the time.

00:01:43.000 Hey, Andrew, appreciate uh being with you.

00:01:45.000 Thank you for being on News Nation.

00:01:47.000 And I'm very sorry uh for the loss of your friend, Charlie.

00:01:52.000 Thank thank you for that.

00:01:53.000 And I know that I know that you are, um, because you've expressed it to me personally and you've gone out of your way to do so.

00:02:01.000 And I think that uh, you know, deserves credit to where it's due because a lot of people, you know, the f the first things they reached out to are all about business.

00:02:09.000 It's all about what does this mean?

00:02:11.000 And and uh when people come and their first their first comment is, I'm sorry for your loss, and uh, you know, I feel for you, and and you have nice things to say about Charlie, who I know we we you and he and we disagree about the politics of it all.

00:02:25.000 We have a lot of different opinions and all that stuff.

00:02:27.000 Um, but one thing that I noticed about you, Chris, and we talked about it a little bit last night is you know, there it there can be a lot made of the who.

00:02:37.000 You know, uh who who did this, what you know, but we can agree that the what is much more clear.

00:02:44.000 We know what killed Charlie.

00:02:46.000 What killed Charlie was people, and I said this on your show, excuse me, and you reiterated it, was that somebody or maybe a group of people were still waiting on some of the details there candidly, and we want the answers, but somebody decided to pick up a gun when Charlie Kirk hit what he was about was picking up a microphone.

00:03:05.000 And it's a great line.

00:03:06.000 Uh, and it is a a perfect encapsulation of an evolving fundamentalism in our country and uh the extremism that we see that is uh turbocharged by social media that is monetized uh within our politics and digital media that is capitalized on by this toxic two-party system.

00:03:29.000 Uh, this is bad directionally, and what scared me most uh after the the personal feelings about the loss of such a young man who was followed by so many, and what it meant to his wife and his babies.

00:03:48.000 Uh once I could get past that, what scared me the most, Andrew, was the yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but is really frightening when it comes to a moral analysis.

00:04:03.000 Okay.

00:04:04.000 Uh yeah, look, it's wrong to kill somebody, but no, no, no, no.

00:04:09.000 No butt.

00:04:10.000 No butt.

00:04:11.000 You want to talk about Charlie's ideas, fine.

00:04:14.000 Nobody wanted to do that more than Charlie did.

00:04:16.000 And more than most, he did it with decency.

00:04:21.000 And I'm not saying I agree with everything that he said.

00:04:23.000 Charlie and I uh were very plain about our disagreements.

00:04:27.000 Uh, but uh not Attacking him personally, not attacking how he tried to present himself.

00:04:34.000 Uh, and the idea of his murder is an absolute low for us, and that's all it can ever be seen as it can never be mitigated, it can never be qualified.

00:04:46.000 Yeah, well, it's well said, Chris, and the yeah, but was really terrifying.

00:04:51.000 I mean, Blake and I were obviously we were shell-shocked, we're watching the whole world uh change Blake, you know.

00:04:58.000 I I think about this often with Blake that that he was there, uh, a few feet away from Charlie.

00:05:03.000 And you know, imagine our world and Blake's world as well.

00:05:07.000 Uh especially imagine what we're seeing in those few hours, days after it happened, and you're seeing Congress getting into shouting matches about a prayer.

00:05:17.000 You're getting you're seeing you're seeing what we saw celebration.

00:05:20.000 We saw this the yeah, but what it really manifested was this immediate race I have by a lot of people that I have to find a reason I can feel okay with this.

00:05:31.000 I have to find a reason actually I can decide this is a good thing.

00:05:35.000 And they would fixate on the smallest you know the stuff we debunked in the episode the following week, where oh, well, actually, he said this thing about the second amendment, so you can actually dunk on Charlie for dying, or he said this thing about affirmative action.

00:05:50.000 So actually, it's fine to think it was good that he was shot.

00:05:52.000 And there that happens so often, and that's not even getting into the darker stuff.

00:05:56.000 I mean, I got I got messages from people I personally know who were gloating in my face about it.

00:06:03.000 Yeah.

00:06:04.000 Well, and you know how many pictures of the president's ear I've gotten where people say his ear is fine, there's no way it healed like this.

00:06:14.000 There's another and my point is look, you bring me proof that they faked it, and I'll be all over it.

00:06:25.000 But short of that, that would have been I don't I don't I don't even want to think about what would have happened in this country had the president been seriously injured, let alone assassinated as Charlie was.

00:06:41.000 And I actually reached out to Trump right after that and said exactly that.

00:06:47.000 Now, of course, the media and a lot of your friends wound up immediately weaponizing it and saying, I apologize to Trump for the media.

00:06:57.000 I apologize, like I was somehow responsible for what had happened with that um evil assassin.

00:07:06.000 And that's where we're at.

00:07:08.000 And that's why, you know, one of the reasons I reached out a little protectively, Andrew, uh, with you, is I see that people are using the opportunity of Charlie's assassination to promote agendas that not only weren't his, but are kind of shameless and disgusting.

00:07:30.000 I mean, even the Israel thing.

00:07:31.000 I mean, yeah, fine.

00:07:32.000 I'm um paid off by APAC, you know, whatever silly conspiracy somebody wants.

00:07:37.000 Um Israel did it. 0.97

00:07:39.000 I mean, to weaponize it that way, to use you guys that way, is just cheap and part of the problem.

00:07:46.000 And it worried me.

00:07:48.000 So I wanted to make sure that you guys were getting the own your own narrative, you know.

00:07:52.000 Well, yeah, I mean, listen, we're you know, we just announced that we're gonna be doing the all-American halftime show.

00:07:57.000 We've got this tour coming that's continuing where you know, we've got thousands and thousands of students at all of these arenas.

00:08:04.000 We've got Amphest that's gonna be the biggest it's ever been.

00:08:08.000 We've got huge announcements coming up, even just next week, and so the work continues.

00:08:12.000 And Chris, I said this on your show last night.

00:08:15.000 It's we we have a sacred duty to live up to the legacy of Charlie, who I believe is a modern day founding father.

00:08:23.000 He was somebody that called us back to our national ideas, uh ideals of debate and dialogue.

00:08:29.000 That's how I feel.

00:08:30.000 Uh, and you know, listen, we have a sacred duty to to live up to that to harness all of this outpouring of energy of enthusiasm for patriotism, for faith, and what I believe can be a revival in this country, especially with young people, and that's what we have to do.

00:08:46.000 We can't get bogged down by the the controversies.

00:08:49.000 We can't get dragged down these these rabbit holes online and the the you know, and again get fixated on the who.

00:08:56.000 The who is important.

00:08:57.000 We want justice, and we want to make sure everybody involved is Brought to justice.

00:09:00.000 So believe me, we are working on that.

00:09:02.000 And when we are silent, does not mean that we do not care.

00:09:04.000 That was the other thing I told you.

00:09:06.000 I think I repeated myself as a matter of fact.

00:09:08.000 Because in that silence, there is a there is an opportunity for a vacuum and a void to be created where other people will rush in.

00:09:15.000 But we, especially Blake being a a witness, uh, but me and my role, we cannot negatively impact an ongoing investigation.

00:09:24.000 So do not conflate or confuse silence on a very important matter for uh complacency or laziness or lack of caring.

00:09:33.000 We care.

00:09:33.000 If you think you care, we care more.

00:09:36.000 Let me just assure you.

00:09:38.000 Go ahead.

00:09:38.000 Um, what you have any questions for me?

00:09:40.000 Yeah.

00:09:41.000 I always thought it would be fun, and I'll come back another time if you want, brother.

00:09:44.000 Uh and for you guys to like show me where we disagree.

00:09:48.000 Um where you think that I'm so different.

00:09:51.000 No, no, no.

00:09:52.000 Listen, I listen, I know that you have charted your own course after the CNN days, and I've I've been really excited to see it, especially with COVID.

00:10:00.000 Uh, and you're you're you know, you say that conversation is a cure.

00:10:03.000 I think Charlie would agree with that.

00:10:05.000 You guys uh Charlie never actually got to go on your show.

00:10:08.000 We were we were working on it behind the scenes, and I'm sad that that didn't happen, but you did get to be on with him at uh the Patrick Bet David for hours.

00:10:16.000 Yeah.

00:10:17.000 So and he by the way, he came he came away from that, Chris, and he said, No, Chris is a really like he's a really decent guy in person, like I really enjoyed meeting him.

00:10:24.000 And uh so I mean it was all all positive, positive vibes.

00:10:28.000 But Chris, I'm gonna keep you.

00:10:29.000 I like that, you know.

00:10:30.000 I didn't I I didn't agree with some of his things.

00:10:32.000 The one thing I wish Charlie had had the chance to say here what he told me when I was with him with Pat.

00:10:40.000 I was like, you know, how can you think that the Civil Rights Act was a mistake?

00:10:45.000 Oh well.

00:10:46.000 And he said, Yeah, and he said to me, and I've said this, I I've I've said this now.

00:10:51.000 People think I'm lying, but whatever.

00:10:53.000 Um, he said to me, that's not what I meant.

00:10:56.000 Because I know you can show me clips of that.

00:10:58.000 That's not what I meant.

00:10:59.000 Of course, minorities needed to have the right to vote.

00:11:02.000 That's not it.

00:11:03.000 It's that the DEI that was embedded in the DNA of that legislation wound up being used in a way uh that has been bad for the country, and that that's what he was talking about.

00:11:15.000 That's what he meant, even if he didn't say it that way.

00:11:17.000 And I accepted it.

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00:12:29.000 My experience with racists, okay.

00:12:31.000 You got three kinds, okay?

00:12:33.000 You got dummies, okay.

00:12:35.000 Um, right, people who are ignorant, uh, didn't get exposed to diversity or or they're just dummies, okay.

00:12:42.000 That's one.

00:12:43.000 Um the second kind are the people who aren't aware that their behaviors or their words are both um are suggestive of a prejudice.

00:12:54.000 That uh it's it's implicit and that they're not trying to be that way, but that's how they're raised, that's just how they think, and it's correctable.

00:13:03.000 Then you have the third one, okay, which is the real problem.

00:13:08.000 Racists who are proud to tell you that they are.

00:13:11.000 And in my experience, if someone's a racist, they will tell you because they believe they have very good reasons for it.

00:13:19.000 Um, and I see it being abused now, just like calling people on uh Nazis or saying that Trump is Hitler.

00:13:28.000 You cheapen the profound nature of the world.

00:13:31.000 Well, to be fair though, Chris, just to be to be fair, people have been mislabeling people as racist for, you know, i basically as long as I've been an adult, uh probably much more before that.

00:13:41.000 Sometimes it ran and a lot of times they're not.

00:13:44.000 It ramped up a lot in the last I would say ten, fifteen years.

00:13:48.000 A lot.

00:13:48.000 And you can see that by some of those charts and graphs that were the Wall Street Journal, how many times they brought up racism or rage.

00:13:54.000 There's no weaponized.

00:13:56.000 You are right.

00:13:57.000 You are right.

00:13:58.000 And what matters or should matter, it did actually doesn't matter enough, is why?

00:14:05.000 The reason it's ramped up is because we're going down a road of fundamentalism.

00:14:08.000 We are getting into extreme ideas and extreme belief systems.

00:14:14.000 And I believe it is fed by our system, the two party system specifically, and amplified by design for profit by social media.

00:14:25.000 So that now it's not that like I would love for you guys to pepper me with like, or what do you think about the you know, guns or whatever it is where you think that we disagree?

00:14:35.000 And I think I think it's a really great exercise.

00:14:38.000 Um we we don't want to do that.

00:14:41.000 Instead, I want to say, oh, that Andrew is a cuck, and you know, that blade is soft, and I destroyed them, and you know, I destroyed them, and I did this and I did that.

00:14:53.000 And then I put it out in the clips, and that's how it is.

00:14:57.000 That is it's so toxic, and people don't get it.

00:15:01.000 And I say to them, just think about I say to people all the time, you think you'd say that if you were standing in front of me right now.

00:15:07.000 And it's funny, Chris.

00:15:09.000 I'm saying, yeah, I would.

00:15:11.000 Yes, no, you wouldn't.

00:15:12.000 I you know what's funny.

00:15:13.000 I I have this.

00:15:13.000 I I don't know if this is bad to bring up, but one of the images of you in my head uh was you know, somebody came at you in in public.

00:15:21.000 It was in real life, and it I think the clip went viral for a little bit, and and you got this guy's face.

00:15:26.000 Like you, you know, I remember thinking like, well, you don't want to mess with Chris.

00:15:30.000 I'll give you the truth.

00:15:31.000 You want the truth, Andrew?

00:15:32.000 Here's the truth.

00:15:33.000 The unspoken truth.

00:15:35.000 One, I almost got fired for that.

00:15:38.000 And a big reason that it almost happened was the president.

00:15:43.000 The president saw the clip or was told about the clip and used it to make the point that people say his supporters are violent.

00:15:54.000 Look at this guy.

00:15:56.000 And he's and he went another step and was like, and I know him.

00:16:00.000 And these guys got lucky.

00:16:03.000 And I'll tell you what, he's right.

00:16:05.000 They did get lucky, and I'll tell you why, Andrew.

00:16:08.000 What you don't know is they didn't stop me.

00:16:11.000 They stopped my nine-year-old daughter and said, Is it okay if we take a picture with Fredo?

00:16:19.000 And as I was walking up the store stairs, I heard this, and I said, Did you just call me Fredo to my nine-year-old daughter?

00:16:27.000 And the guy was like, Yeah, like that.

00:16:30.000 Oh, yeah, you don't do that.

00:16:32.000 You don't do that.

00:16:32.000 I and and that's disrespectful, Chris.

00:16:34.000 Of course.

00:16:35.000 And we I'm sorry you had to go through that.

00:16:37.000 All right, Chris, I want to show you a graphic, and I'm gonna have you reply to it.

00:16:41.000 Um, because it is concerning.

00:16:43.000 After and I saw, by the way, so go ahead and throw up 265.

00:16:47.000 And we've talked about it on the show before, and the question was posed, and then remember, this is September 12th through the 15th.

00:16:53.000 Don't worry, I'll walk you all through it if you can't read it.

00:16:55.000 Says the question was so this is this is two days after it happened.

00:16:59.000 Okay.

00:17:00.000 Is it ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goal?

00:17:05.000 And this is the res the percentage of responding yes.

00:17:09.000 And look at that really standout node right there at the beginning.

00:17:13.000 Age 18 through 39.

00:17:15.000 If you're liberal, 30% of them, just about, maybe just under, maybe it's 29%, said yes, that it's justified to resort to violence to achieve political goals.

00:17:25.000 There is something going on with young progressives that they think violence is somehow okay.

00:17:31.000 What do you make of that?

00:17:32.000 A few things.

00:17:34.000 One, I think it's not that that is true as a standalone.

00:17:39.000 It's the ands, okay.

00:17:42.000 One, they may call themselves progressives, they may not.

00:17:45.000 I think the labels don't apply the way they used to.

00:17:48.000 And it's not just people on the left, it's young people in general.

00:17:54.000 But Chris, but Chris, one second.

00:17:56.000 I just want to say, look at the conservative node there.

00:17:58.000 It's in the other color.

00:18:00.000 It is I see it.

00:18:01.000 Young conservatives are actually self-described.

00:18:03.000 Yeah.

00:18:03.000 Self-described.

00:18:04.000 Are less likely than even you know 60 plus year old conservatives.

00:18:09.000 Yes.

00:18:09.000 And I think there's a reason for that right now, which is the radiometer has swung the pendulum, right?

00:18:17.000 Everything is pendular in our politics.

00:18:19.000 Why?

00:18:19.000 Two choices.

00:18:20.000 The binary nature.

00:18:22.000 So the rage was on the right.

00:18:25.000 That's what launched and birthed MAGA.

00:18:27.000 Uh, was the president tapping into a legitimate set of grievances?

00:18:33.000 Legitimate set of grievances.

00:18:36.000 And there was outrage.

00:18:38.000 Now it has swung, and there's reaction formation to MAGA.

00:18:42.000 The Demsox, I call them, the Democratic Socialists.

00:18:46.000 And they have the outrage.

00:18:49.000 They have the grievance of Trump as a fascist and of affordability and of uh perceived cultural victimization.

00:19:00.000 Um, which they grab onto in Gaza as well as as here in America.

00:19:05.000 Like that's the level of surrogacy they have for this righteousness, whether or not it applies to them or not.

00:19:11.000 That's what's driving it.

00:19:12.000 Well, and it is really dangerous.

00:19:14.000 How do we fix it?

00:19:15.000 Here's how you fix it.

00:19:16.000 Okay.

00:19:16.000 I've been giving this a lot of thought.

00:19:18.000 Usually I say, I don't know.

00:19:19.000 I'm not in the answers business.

00:19:21.000 But here's the answer.

00:19:22.000 There's no way that news nation and every other media platform that you like or dislike has a level of responsibility for what it puts out there, and the richest, most powerful media people with the largest platforms have zero fix it.

00:19:39.000 Hmm.

00:19:40.000 Interesting.

00:19:41.000 Yeah, and I I would say that you know, uh, to Charlie's credit, because Charlie gets lumped in with this Charlie Kirk destroys Lib and all this stuff, and I get it.

00:19:49.000 There, those videos are out there on social media.

00:19:52.000 But 90%, Chris, of his interactions on campus were calm, patient.

00:19:58.000 One of the most common things that we saw, especially as he got older, because he started looking at the students as like younger, younger siblings.

00:20:04.000 He had the older brother role.

00:20:06.000 And he was infinitely, nearly infinitely patient with so many, so many of these kids.

00:20:11.000 And that was became the most common comment that we would see on social media.

00:20:15.000 Like, Charlie, how do you as well?

00:20:18.000 And me as well.

00:20:19.000 That's that's why I found to your point.

00:20:21.000 To your point, those didn't always go as viral as the is the fiery exchanges.

00:20:26.000 And that's never that's something that's cooked into our our basic wiring.

00:20:31.000 Floor is yours to finish it, finish this up.

00:20:33.000 Never.

00:20:33.000 I mean, it's it's not one thing, it's everything.

00:20:36.000 Okay.

00:20:37.000 And I get that most people don't get this because most people don't live social media the way they amplify the magnified minorities do, minority populations.

00:20:48.000 So they don't really get it, but it is infecting everything they do get.

00:20:53.000 And you have to stop allowing the algorithms to reward rage baiting.

00:21:00.000 Yeah, it's that's I'm not allowed to do that.

00:21:02.000 If I were to do that, there would be so much scrutiny of wow, all this guy does is like give you reasons to hate people.

00:21:09.000 We got all we gotta, we gotta wrap it up, Chris.

00:21:12.000 Uh that was that was a really interesting conversation.

00:21:14.000 Thank you so much.

00:21:15.000 Good to be with you.

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00:22:21.000 So, uh, you know, I used to always notice this when uh Charlie would get to like certain segments, and he just could was like, hey, I don't even know anything about what I'm talking about here, but You guys do, so and he would like love it because it was not on him.

00:22:33.000 So we're gonna be talking about uh pop culture, controversies, Taylor Swift, uh Zach Bryan, all the things, but first Mikey McCoy uh has some news for us.

00:22:44.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 So obviously we announced the halftime show today.

00:22:47.000 Halftime, the all-American halftime show.

00:22:51.000 And so that uh initially there's a little bit of confusion because they were like, is this you know the Force Frank Corey's Asbury halftime show?

00:22:58.000 Is this is this the same thing?

00:23:00.000 People were a little bit confused.

00:23:01.000 And I think originally Daisy, we had announced it, and then Corey also announced it.

00:23:06.000 And so yeah, everyone just kind of talking about their ideas.

00:23:09.000 I mean, I do I do just want to say really quick.

00:23:12.000 The the the original seed of the idea came from a joke from Jack Basobic.

00:23:17.000 I just want to say that does Jack does sort of get the to claim first dibs here.

00:23:21.000 But anyways, continue.

00:23:22.000 Anyways, so we posted that this morning.

00:23:24.000 Some people were asking questions.

00:23:26.000 So just to put you know, for clarity's sake here, I about literally ten minutes ago I just jumped off a call with Corey, and um it was a great phone call.

00:23:34.000 He's an amazing guy, great follower of Christ, does so much to bring people back to the Lord.

00:23:41.000 And it was an amazing phone call, 30 minutes long, and our desire is to partner.

00:23:45.000 Our desire is to proclaim the name of Jesus.

00:23:49.000 Collaborate.

00:23:50.000 Yeah, collaborate.

00:23:51.000 Yeah.

00:23:52.000 And so that is our desire.

00:23:53.000 And so it sounds like we're gonna be building a bridge there.

00:23:56.000 Oh, well, we can't get a hold of ourselves.

00:24:00.000 But listen, the good news is is that like people that love Jesus, people that are concerned about the things of the Lord, um there is no friction.

00:24:08.000 Okay.

00:24:09.000 There is only only linking arms and um I mean, that has been Erica's one guiding principle.

00:24:16.000 Well, there's been a few, but like one of the main ones is that we want to make heaven crowded, we want to see revival, we want to see uh the name of Jesus made great in our land again.

00:24:25.000 And so that was a really positive step.

00:24:27.000 Good job.

00:24:28.000 I think I knew nothing about that.

00:24:30.000 I knew nothing that there was like like competing things.

00:24:33.000 I think I was complet I was w wonderfully oblivious.

00:24:36.000 What's most important is that it wasn't even anyone's specific ideas was the American public saying we want something different than what we're given, and a lot of amazing people from turning point events, Corey, what whatever they're trying to put on, a lot of amazing people are trying to make that happen, and we all want to do it together.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, and I think this goes back to the fact that Bad Bunny was just a bad choice.

00:24:57.000 Um a lot of people that really love this country, like Blake Neff was like, I'm not gonna stream Bad Bunny music.

00:25:05.000 Or maybe you do.

00:25:06.000 Do you secretly?

00:25:08.000 I have literally never heard of Bad Bunny until and I'll just add this A Court of Three Strings isn't easily broken.

00:25:13.000 And so the more of us that partner together, you know, to to fight for what we believe in, is the stronger we are.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, and listen, this doesn't have to be a partisan thing, this doesn't have to be a political thing.

00:25:23.000 This is just like there is a sense of what America is, there's a sense about what faith family and freedom mean to people, and we just want to we want to do that.

00:25:29.000 That's the way we want to do family freedom, less booty cheeks on a halftime show, more believers, less sexual anarchy, booty cheeks believers. 0.99

00:25:37.000 Yeah, we're more on this side.

00:25:39.000 That's really the division here.

00:25:40.000 It's also a perfect transition.

00:25:42.000 I was gonna say, okay, so what are we talking about?

00:25:44.000 Let's get this.

00:25:44.000 Let's take so uh Raina.

00:25:47.000 So Daisy is of course a Taylor Swift fan.

00:25:50.000 I also would like to say I do have some other interests.

00:25:52.000 I know I really only come on the show to talk about Taylor Swift, but I'm not sure.

00:25:56.000 I do have to do that.

00:25:57.000 I feel like I only ever talked to her about Taylor Swift.

00:25:59.000 But this is obviously a recurring thing.

00:26:01.000 Uh Charlie had very strong thoughts on Taylor Swift's celebrity and her relationship with that, you know, the Pfizer guy.

00:26:08.000 Travis Kelsey.

00:26:10.000 That but now she has a new album out, and uh Daisy's going to tell us there's like very interesting developments in how the Swift is.

00:26:17.000 Well, we did talk about this once already.

00:26:18.000 So she talks about just wanting to have the white picket fence in the family.

00:26:21.000 Well, so that's which we thought was good.

00:26:23.000 That was the day after it had come out.

00:26:25.000 And so the online chatter hadn't really started yet.

00:26:30.000 But since then, that's been uh almost it's been a week since it came out, almost a week since we had that conversation, and she is getting cancelled by her own side.

00:26:41.000 She people have found a lot of different lyrics that are microaggression, microaggression.

00:26:47.000 This reminds me this reminds me of when uh that Z gal from uh the Unf America tour uh was trying to like counter Charlie and Turning Point, and then she got canceled by her own team for microaggressions. 1.00

00:27:00.000 Exactly.

00:27:00.000 So there are a couple things that are going on.

00:27:02.000 One people are upset saying that Taylor is uh one of the quotes that I saw was that she has given the alt-right their conservative agenda on a silver platter.

00:27:13.000 Because she's talking about how she wants to get married and have kids.

00:27:16.000 People use that term like in the most idiotic ways.

00:27:19.000 And then separately, she's getting uh slammed for her racist. 1.00

00:27:22.000 And what's the what's the black rock?

00:27:25.000 So okay.

00:27:26.000 Okay, topaz.

00:27:27.000 Let's show some of the clips just so we can set the one of those set up.

00:27:30.000 We have a montage of the left cancel.

00:27:32.000 We have let's let's just start with uh this is a couple of um, let's do one eighteen.

00:27:37.000 I want to have your white babies, and I actually want our entire neighborhood to be racially homogenous. 1.00

00:27:45.000 She went through this entire thing with Trump, right?

00:27:48.000 About how she and her families did not like being called uh childless cat ladies.

00:27:53.000 And and now Taylor is calling y'all childless cat ladies.

00:27:58.000 So either the life of a showgirl is one big racist homophobic dog whistle, or everyone has lost their absolute minds. 1.00

00:28:05.000 Apparently, singing about your new fiance is endorsing eugenics now. 1.00

00:28:10.000 And the song cancelled is a MAGA anthem.

00:28:14.000 The Hamlet character Ophelia, a happy ending instead of a tragic one is an endorsement of the patriarchy.

00:28:19.000 The song Opalite is a white supremacist anthem for I don't know why.

00:28:24.000 And it's also homophobic too.

00:28:27.000 And also racist while we're at it.

00:28:29.000 The question is is a dog whistle really a dog whistle if only the offended party can hear it.

00:28:35.000 So that person sounds like she was defending Taylor, but going to the city.

00:28:41.000 So there's there's a couple things that are going on.

00:28:43.000 One, there's a song called Oatpalite.

00:28:45.000 Travis Kelsey's very public ex-girlfriend was a black girl. 0.86

00:28:52.000 Taylor's lyric says you were sleepless in the onyx night, now you're seeing Opalite, something like that.

00:28:58.000 And people are saying that this is racist because Onyx is black.

00:29:03.000 Opalite.

00:29:04.000 One of the articles I read said that Taylor represents Opalite because she's translucent and white. 0.97

00:29:09.000 I I I just have to say I Taylor, you're finally getting a taste of what Charlie had to deal with for so long.

00:29:17.000 Yeah.

00:29:17.000 Out of context, people taking your words and twisting them and we have- I think that happened a few times with Charlie talking about Taylor.

00:29:24.000 Yeah, we are getting twisted.

00:29:25.000 We have a clip of I think one of those complaints, by the way.

00:29:28.000 Let's play 124.

00:29:30.000 Taylor Swift has revealed herself to be resentful of black women, or at least deeply insecure when it comes to comparing herself to black women.

00:29:38.000 In the song Opalite, Taylor is referencing Travis Kelsey's ex-girlfriend Kayla Nicole.

00:29:42.000 The lyrics of Opalite include you were dancing through the lightning strikes, sleepless in the onyx night.

00:29:48.000 But now the sky is opalite.

00:29:49.000 So Taylor is not only using the lyrics in the song to talk about how she is so much better for Travis than his ex-girlfriend is, but she is choosing to do that using the imagery of Onyx, which is typically black, and opalite, which is typically white.

00:30:04.000 This is Yeah.

00:30:05.000 So it it gets even it gets even worse, Taylor's apparent racism because she has in Wish list, the song that we talked about last week, she says she wants to have a bunch of kids with Travis and have the whole block looking like you, which is clearly Taylor saying that she wants her entire block to look white and not obviously not her saying she wants to have so many kids with her fiance who she's in love with that she wants a bunch of mini mini themes running around.

00:30:30.000 But no, she's very clearly being racist by that one. 0.99

00:30:33.000 Another one which was took me a lot longer to understand.

00:30:36.000 I still don't really understand that.

00:30:37.000 In her song Eldest Daughter, she says, I'm not a bad B. We can interpret what that means.

00:30:43.000 I'm not a savage, which that is a microaggression.

00:30:46.000 I think we're showing pictures up on the screen of people responding to that saying that Taylor is showing her racism by saying that because those are she is comparing herself to his ex again, who we know is black.

00:31:00.000 So I'm just saying.

00:31:02.000 Blake Blake, how many times do does a progressive need to get burned by the insane progressive people before they learn that the you do not make common cause?

00:31:14.000 Evidence I've seen from when I have investigated this is unfortunately it is infinity.

00:31:19.000 Some people can like just be humiliated over and over, like massively hated, and they'll just they'll never quite.

00:31:26.000 But how did I know that you were never like that in?

00:31:29.000 So it's also what I think is so crazy about this because in in her song Cancelled, which one of the videos mentioned, it's about how she likes her friends better being canceled.

00:31:35.000 It's widely speculative that's about Brittany Mahomes who has been associated with conservative principles, the alt-right movement.

00:31:46.000 We should and Well, speaking of the alt-right move, or do you have a sorry I didn't remember?

00:31:50.000 Well, I was just gonna say I think this is so crazy that people are saying that Taylor is so MAGA coded in this album because Taylor is every single election has come out and endorsed a Democrat.

00:32:01.000 She is very publicly against Trump.

00:32:04.000 Just I just because she wants to get married and have kids does not mean that she is a Republican.

00:32:09.000 There is a real dimension to this.

00:32:10.000 There's a real dimension to this where like it really makes them come out and you realize they just can't stand normal people.

00:32:16.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 Not to mention she this album is incredibly raunchy, like not kid friendly.

00:32:22.000 What's this?

00:32:26.000 She wants to get married. 0.98

00:32:27.000 Maybe she'll get cancelled so hard that it'll actually push her to the right.

00:32:31.000 Well, then Charlie AD Vance.

00:32:36.000 It's getting fulfilled.

00:32:37.000 Yeah, it are in our midst.

00:32:38.000 We should play 123, though.

00:32:39.000 This is this is a critique of her uh album being Republican coded.

00:32:44.000 123.

00:32:48.000 Because it's it obviously is.

00:32:50.000 And if you can't realize that, you're a victim of the media literacy crisis.

00:32:53.000 If only for the song cancelled, where she the billionaire paints herself as the victim of cancel culture. 0.99

00:32:59.000 People rightfully pointed out the person she was dating did a racist thing. 1.00

00:33:03.000 But beyond that, I mean, that's enough.

00:33:05.000 That's obvious.

00:33:06.000 Making number one that, and number two, an album about like an idealized form of like what is a typical American family, ideally, of like living in a suburb, being in a monogamous relationship, getting peace and joy, and basically just kind of being a housewife.

00:33:20.000 Those are Republican virtues.

00:33:22.000 Those are Republican virtues.

00:33:24.000 We'll take them.

00:33:25.000 I'll take them.

00:33:26.000 We'll take it as well.

00:33:27.000 American families.

00:33:28.000 That's all just like that.

00:33:29.000 If she if she can go on a tour and if she announces that she is going to go on tour as Taylor Kelsey, I think the dream is coming true.

00:33:39.000 Her fan base will explode. 0.99

00:33:41.000 I uh I just want to apologize to the audience for playing that young man.

00:33:45.000 I'm sorry.

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00:34:57.000 My sincerest apologies to you all.

00:35:01.000 I know that was appalling for you.

00:35:02.000 I just can't get over you said peace and joy.

00:35:05.000 These are obviously Republican governments.

00:35:08.000 You know those Republicans.

00:35:09.000 They like kids and family.

00:35:12.000 I hope this isn't like a downer.

00:35:15.000 But Blake and I's last text exchange with Charlie was about monogamy.

00:35:19.000 And we're talking about how it's very advanced civilizational tech, how good it is for culture, how it directs male energy towards the building of families, the building of businesses, the uh building of civilization.

00:35:31.000 Uh it's just a when when I heard him say monogamy, Republican value, I was like, how did how did like obviously good things become partisan things?

00:35:42.000 Well, it would become a partisan thing if one of the sides was against good things and like things because they were disgusting and bad.

00:35:49.000 It's never been more clear that they are just they're saying from this Taylor Swift album, which I think is crazy, that's where they're coming to this conclusion from that they are against settling down and having a faith.

00:35:59.000 I think we should do an experiment where like you take really left-wing insane people and you just do exposure therapy, like hook them up to some devices to measure them, and then just show them like a photo of a nuclear family with two children under age five and just see if like if they have this like visceral disgust reaction.

00:36:17.000 Because at this point I suspect you would, and I think we need to research this.

00:36:20.000 We should bring back wife swap, but it's like a complete conservative normal trad wife family with some blue haired, blue-haired 20-year-old girl living in the city. 1.00

00:36:34.000 This is normalizing uh patently insane people and we need to actually return to the t taboo culture of yesteryear.

00:36:43.000 All we want, we don't want handmaid's tale, we just want the nineties.

00:36:46.000 That's all we want.

00:36:47.000 Yeah, the nineties, which maybe is a good inspiration for our halftime show.

00:36:50.000 But it is remarkable that normal things are now Republican coded.

00:36:54.000 I think that's a win for the country.

00:36:56.000 In the short term politically, because how are you supposed to win if monogamy is like a partisan issue?

00:37:02.000 Like I'm pretty sure Democrats don't want to be cheated on either, you know?

00:37:06.000 Uh I wouldn't want to assume.

00:37:10.000 Okay.

00:37:11.000 All right, we have more pop culture controversies, including Zach Bryan.

00:37:15.000 Uh what's the neck what's the next controversy we need to be educated on?

00:37:19.000 Zach Bryan posted a snippet of a song and he captioned it, The Fading of the Red, White, and Blue.

00:37:26.000 And in this song, his lyrics are an ice is going to come bust down your door, try to build a house, no one builds no more, but I got a telephone.

00:37:36.000 The kids are all scared and all alone.

00:37:39.000 So Zach Bryan already is just not a good guy.

00:37:43.000 I I think that's pretty well known.

00:37:45.000 I think we talked about this.

00:37:47.000 I've also never heard of Zach Bryan until this week.

00:37:49.000 He's a massive country singer.

00:37:51.000 Incredibly talented.

00:37:53.000 Daisy, Daisy King.

00:37:54.000 What what happened with him and Brianna Chicken Fry?

00:37:57.000 Yes.

00:37:57.000 So he publicly dated Brianna.

00:37:59.000 That was his former girlfriend. 0.70

00:38:00.000 Chicken Fry's not actually her last name.

00:38:02.000 That's what we call it.

00:38:04.000 It goes by Brianna Chicken Fry.

00:38:05.000 They publicly dated for a long time.

00:38:07.000 Then messy, messy breakup.

00:38:09.000 She came out, said that he treated her incredibly terribly.

00:38:12.000 Very, very, very bad stuff about him.

00:38:18.000 Do we trust her?

00:38:19.000 Um in this story, yes, she I like I don't think she's a fan of us in any way, but she very publicly has said that he offered her twelve million dollars to go away to never talk about him publicly again.

00:38:31.000 That's just an extortion right now.

00:38:33.000 Also took the same deal.

00:38:36.000 Not 12 million dollars, but he's been married to he was um in the military, was married, got divorced, and is now a very successful country singer, but Brianna Chicken Fry did not take the money and has been speaking or has spoken about everything they're turning down twelve million dollars to publicly hate on someone is some pretty nuclear level hatred.

00:38:57.000 Yes.

00:38:57.000 A woman scorned, Blake, a woman scorned.

00:39:01.000 So Daisy knows it.

00:39:02.000 He and he's always been pretty liberal, especially after all the Bud Light stuff happened.

00:39:06.000 I want to say that he the uh the we were conservatives were canceling Bud Light, and I think he pretty publicly said Bud Light was going to be the soul beer he drank on his tour.

00:39:17.000 I'm I'm 90% sure.

00:39:20.000 He's about five five in person.

00:39:22.000 I actually don't get mad.

00:39:23.000 My wife bought me a ticket.

00:39:25.000 Sure.

00:39:25.000 I went to the concert.

00:39:28.000 Oh, this is how it's gonna be.

00:39:30.000 All right.

00:39:30.000 She bought it for me for the table.

00:39:34.000 I did not go to a chair.

00:39:35.000 Can we rush print a Zach Bryan number one fan shirt for Andrew?

00:39:39.000 I I do not have that.

00:39:41.000 I told you how to make it the first thing that I saw when I so I enter the arena and uh he's it's kind of done in the round, so he kind of moves around, he kind of points to all directions.

00:39:53.000 And uh the first thing I noticed is that he had heels like on his shoes.

00:39:58.000 Of course, like this, like there were like bono heels he used to do that too.

00:40:01.000 Uh and he's legit, he's just a very tiny person.

00:40:05.000 He pro I mean five, four, five five.

00:40:07.000 Was it hard to see him from the crowd?

00:40:10.000 Even with the stage.

00:40:11.000 So why do we think he's a bad person?

00:40:13.000 I don't understand.

00:40:14.000 Well, I just could the women be extorting him. 1.00

00:40:18.000 I don't know that I trust this stuff.

00:40:19.000 I'm just being honest.

00:40:20.000 I know.

00:40:21.000 I think there's enough uh there's clearly weren't extorting him because they turned down the money.

00:40:25.000 Yeah.

00:40:26.000 Um he always starts fights with cops when they're literally being so chill with him.

00:40:30.000 He Morgan Wallin?

00:40:32.000 No, Zach Sorry.

00:40:33.000 No, no, Zach Bryant.

00:40:34.000 Oh, he got He got arrested for interfering with a traffic stop, and he told the officer, I'm just 20 uh I'm just a twenty-seven-year-old kid, man.

00:40:42.000 Uh, okay.

00:40:43.000 Yeah, he I think he it's pretty well known that he's not the best guy.

00:40:47.000 He's also pretty uh liberal.

00:40:49.000 Yes.

00:40:50.000 And so I also have Christine Ohm responding to it.

00:40:55.000 That's 114, if we want to play that.

00:40:58.000 I hope he understands how completely disrespectful that song is, not just to law enforcement, but to this country, to every single individual that has ever stood up and fought for our freedoms.

00:41:08.000 He just compromised it all by putting out a product such as that.

00:41:12.000 That attacks individuals who are just trying to make our streets safe.

00:41:17.000 So Zach, um, I didn't listen to your music.

00:41:20.000 Um I'm happy about that today.

00:41:21.000 Today that makes me very happy that I never once gave you a single penny uh to enrich your lifestyle if you truly believe what that song stands for.

00:41:28.000 But I am gonna go out and probably download some Jason Aldean songs, John Rich songs, so party, kid rock, any of those guys, those guys know what it means to stand up for Freedom.

00:41:41.000 Okay.

00:41:42.000 You can't say the same thing that Christine Ohm said, that she's never given a penny to Zach Bryan to support him.

00:41:47.000 I can't say it.

00:41:48.000 But Zach Bryan.

00:41:49.000 My wife say all of you are less pure than me because you had heard of Zach Bryan.

00:41:53.000 That is true.

00:41:54.000 No, he is incredibly talented.

00:41:56.000 I can't believe you guys will just go.

00:42:00.000 My wife is like, we're going to a country we're going to a country concert. 0.88

00:42:04.000 That's what I thought.

00:42:05.000 He's very famous for a reason.

00:42:06.000 He's really, really an amazing person.

00:42:09.000 So he responds, though.

00:42:10.000 He responded and said that this song is actually about his love for the country, and anyone that's using it as a weapon proves how divided we all truly are.

00:42:17.000 He posted it.

00:42:18.000 Well, that's that's the end of our pop culture power half hour.

00:42:22.000 Let us know what you think about Zach Bryan.

00:42:24.000 Freedom at Charlie Kirk.com and send us who you want to see at the halftime show, the all-American halftime show.

00:42:30.000 I don't think Zach Bryan will wanna.

00:42:31.000 I don't think Zach Bryan's gonna make it.

00:42:33.000 Talk to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 10, 2025

The Left Turns on Taylor Swift?

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