The Charlie Kirk Show - The Left’s America: No Border, No Dollar, No God — LIVE at Harvest Church Miami

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00:00:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:16.000 Hey, everybody, thank you.

00:01:17.000 Thank you.

00:01:22.000 Welcome to the 305.

00:01:24.000 This is amazing on such short notice.

00:01:24.000 Thank you.

00:01:27.000 It was on, I think, Friday our team reached out to you.

00:01:30.000 Yeah.

00:01:31.000 And I don't sit still well.

00:01:33.000 I have a whole week here planned in Florida.

00:01:36.000 And I noticed that I had an empty evening.

00:01:39.000 So I could just kind of be sitting around or I could be, you know, talking about current events.

00:01:43.000 And unfortunately, tragically, very fitting to be in a synagogue right now, considering what happened over the weekend.

00:01:51.000 So honor to be here, blessed to be here, and lots to go over.

00:01:54.000 And if we have time, we'll do some questions from the audience.

00:01:56.000 Well, we thank you.

00:01:56.000 That's right.

00:01:58.000 And I think those applauses mean just a fraction of what you mean to all of us, being so brave and courageous and speaking the things that resonate true with us.

00:02:08.000 And we can stand with you because we know that you stand for what is true and what is right.

00:02:14.000 And in this church, we proclaim the word of God.

00:02:18.000 And so one of the things that I think would be great to kind of open up our conversation is this idea, I think as a pastor, I would assume the responsibility that the reason why the darkness is so dark and why the contamination is so spread so much is it's the fault of the church being engaged in our civic duty in places of influence.

00:02:46.000 Could you speak a bit about that and to kind of warm us up into the conversation?

00:02:51.000 Why is your voice so necessary today more than ever?

00:02:54.000 Well, yeah, and it's, I don't even consider it to be my voice.

00:02:58.000 I'm not a pastor.

00:02:59.000 I'm not a theologian.

00:03:00.000 I'm just a Bible-believing church attending Christian who loves Jesus, loves the country, loves liberty, and is sick and tired of seeing all those things under attack every single day from our government And from within, perfectly honest.

00:03:14.000 And I also hate evil.

00:03:15.000 I hate what we saw this last weekend.

00:03:17.000 I hate the evil we're seeing in our own country.

00:03:20.000 And we have to do a much better job of repudiating evil in this country.

00:03:24.000 And so I got my career started organizing on high school and college campuses.

00:03:29.000 And never did I imagine that I would be kind of working in the church space.

00:03:34.000 But COVID really opened my eyes to a lot of different things.

00:03:36.000 I was so shocked and surprised when I saw churches completely and totally locked down.

00:03:43.000 When I saw churches kind of go along with the local government or state government or federal government mandates, when we had an opportunity for one of the greatest revivals and harvests in our country's history, you know, we saw suicides go up and alcoholism go up and isolation and loneliness go up.

00:04:01.000 And the church just kind of laid locked down, laid over and locked down.

00:04:05.000 And I was speechless when I saw the church, which is the light of the world, become an extension of a tyrannical secular government saying that, you know, Romans 13, we're not allowed to be open.

00:04:19.000 And then on top of that, we saw all the race politics that occurred in the summer of 2020 when we burned down our country due to a lie from the pit of hell that we're systemically racist.

00:04:30.000 And the church is, the church needs to continue to be the moral light and the moral corrective tool of a society.

00:04:39.000 When the church is silent, then who is to say what is right or wrong?

00:04:44.000 And we, you know, Alexander Solshenitsyn, who's one of my favorite authors, he wrote a book called the Gulag Archipelago.

00:04:50.000 He basically summarized what happened in the Soviet Union: 60 million people killed.

00:04:55.000 And that sounds like just a number, but then you watch the videos of what just happened in Israel this last weekend, you realize these are moms and dads and daughters and sisters, the brutality and the horror.

00:05:06.000 And he said, all of this happened.

00:05:08.000 All of the tragedy of the Soviet Union can be summarized because people forgot God.

00:05:13.000 That's right.

00:05:13.000 All of it.

00:05:14.000 And if you listen to what happens on college campuses, so I go to campuses so you don't have to, or if you listen to what happens in popular society, they're always telling us that religious fundamentalism is the worst thing that could happen.

00:05:29.000 If I go to a campus, they say there's nothing worse than someone being too extreme in their religion.

00:05:34.000 And never once do they ever talk about being too extreme in their secularism.

00:05:40.000 Being too extreme in your godlessness has actually killed more people than being extreme in your religion.

00:05:47.000 And the Soviet Union, Mao's China, Nazi Germany. 0.66

00:05:51.000 And we as Christians must understand the Western world was largely built by Christians for the free society that we all enjoy, Judeo-Christian values that we talk about.

00:06:02.000 And we're seeing it collapse from within itself right now. 0.78

00:06:06.000 And, you know, Nietzsche said in the late 1800s, God is dead.

00:06:09.000 He did not say that in a celebration way, by the way.

00:06:11.000 You've heard that phrase, God is dead.

00:06:13.000 He was lamenting.

00:06:14.000 He said, oh my, Western civilization is about to fall.

00:06:18.000 This is the late 1800s, that Western civilization is about to fall apart because when you lose that belief in a higher power, what replaces it?

00:06:27.000 You know what replaces it? 0.65

00:06:28.000 LGBT, Black Lives Matter, the cult of Anthony Fauci. 0.81

00:06:34.000 People replace it with these fake pagan religions, which I think is a really important thing to talk about because it's something that Jews and Christians have in common, which is there's some differences between Jews and Christians, but Jews and Christians both believe in ethical monotheism and rejecting the fake paganism that the Torah was written to repudiate. 0.50

00:06:56.000 Egypt was a cult of death that believed in polytheism and paganism. 0.53

00:07:01.000 We live in a monotheistic society that is increasingly becoming pagan. 0.95

00:07:06.000 If the church remains silent, you will be ruled not by the golden calf, but by the purple-haired jihadists that calls themselves an accepting trans person that forces you to use their pronouns while they castrate your kids. 0.76

00:07:18.000 That's right. 0.95

00:07:20.000 Well said.

00:07:22.000 You know, my concern is something I often fight is this idea, you know, Matthew 24, it has to get worse before it gets better.

00:07:31.000 And this interpretation, what we see looks like end time signs.

00:07:36.000 But this idea of letting it go so it gets worse, so it can get better, such a terrible interpretation of scripture.

00:07:45.000 I often say this, you know, the church of the time hid the gospel, the Roman church, and the dark ages came and Christ did not come back.

00:07:58.000 And so the assumption that by my negligence, by my complacency, he's going to provoke the return of Christ is such a fallacy.

00:08:06.000 And I think a lot of Christians live under that enchantment and just, they'd rather be afraid and do nothing and let everything that you just said than react and be the salt and the light.

00:08:19.000 Yeah, so with what happened in Israel this last weekend, there has been a spike, because I monitor all this, in pastors increasing their chatter saying that these are the end times. 0.94

00:08:30.000 Now, they might be right. 0.94

00:08:31.000 We might be living through the birth pains before the tribulation.

00:08:34.000 I understand that.

00:08:35.000 However, the wrong way to look at that is to say we must do nothing because God's plan is falling into place.

00:08:44.000 We must be very humble about the end times.

00:08:46.000 Correct.

00:08:47.000 They thought the end was in the year 1000, 1400, 1630, 1850, 2000, and 2011.

00:08:55.000 Yes, maybe it's going to come on the feast day in 2030.

00:08:58.000 Or maybe it's going to come in a thousand years from now.

00:09:01.000 Or maybe it's going to come in 2,000 years from now.

00:09:04.000 And I don't hear that kind of humility enough from some people that only talk about the end times.

00:09:10.000 And dare I go a step further?

00:09:14.000 Some people are almost wanting the end times to come because it's going to bail them out of a very dark world.

00:09:24.000 How do I say this?

00:09:26.000 They could be right.

00:09:27.000 There are some verses that might suggest that.

00:09:30.000 But the overarching truth of the Bible is usually God is going to test our obedience in the face of evil.

00:09:39.000 God can end any evil if he chooses, but he gives us some form of a free will to test our love of him, our duty to him, and our obedience.

00:09:48.000 I got, you know, in a conversation with a pastor this morning, and he said, Charlie, the end times are here.

00:09:53.000 You know, we're going to be zapped up next Thursday.

00:09:58.000 And they might be right.

00:09:59.000 I don't even mean, I do believe that Jesus is going to come back on his throne.

00:10:02.000 I do believe that.

00:10:03.000 But I am certainly not, I am not prideful enough to declare when Jesus said the hour and the day is unknown.

00:10:13.000 That's right.

00:10:14.000 That I somehow have that answer.

00:10:16.000 Instead, I emphasize on what we do.

00:10:20.000 And to give credit to my Jewish friends, they do a much better job of focusing on what you must do. 0.92

00:10:28.000 Now, if I were to, and this is Dennis Prager's chick, I'm just kind of taking it from him.

00:10:33.000 He says, Jews are too this world focused.

00:10:36.000 Christians are too next world focused.

00:10:39.000 And I don't necessarily agree with that. 1.00

00:10:41.000 I think you can get too focused on the next world where you allow evil to spread in this world.

00:10:46.000 And I've seen it happen. 0.82

00:10:48.000 I've seen certain Christians say, why should I donate?

00:10:51.000 Why should I have children?

00:10:53.000 I have pastors that are now actively saying it is better to not have children because we are definitely in the end times.

00:11:00.000 I believe that's evil.

00:11:02.000 Believe is using your pulpit as a pastor to tell people not to do something that is biblically commanded and holy because you're so certain that this is the end of the world, you are misleading your flock.

00:11:14.000 In fact, it should be the opposite.

00:11:16.000 Occupy till he comes.

00:11:18.000 Take as much terrain as possible and occupy that until Christ's return.

00:11:25.000 If Christ is coming back on his throne, hallelujah.

00:11:28.000 But if it's from a long time from now, I'm going to try to make this world a little bit better.

00:11:33.000 Psalm 97:10 says, If you love God, you must hate evil.

00:11:40.000 And if I may, this last weekend, what happened in Israel, the worst terror attack on Jews since the Holocaust.

00:11:48.000 800, maybe even 1,000 Jews.

00:11:50.000 And I don't think the media is doing a good enough job talking about this.

00:11:54.000 And I'll be very, I mean, this was not as if these savage animals came in and started firing on military targets.

00:12:02.000 This was not a military operation.

00:12:04.000 This was bloodthirst of civilians.

00:12:07.000 It's a completely different thing.

00:12:09.000 We have not seen anything like this in quite some time.

00:12:11.000 Maybe in Israel you'll see a bus being bombed, right?

00:12:14.000 Or you'll see a building here or there.

00:12:17.000 This was five or six hours of door by door, kibbutz by kibbutz, going and finding Jews, taking them out of their homes, kidnapping the women, over a hundred hostages still. 0.55

00:12:28.000 And there's lots of takeaways. 0.62

00:12:29.000 We'll talk about Israel, I'm sure, as we go.

00:12:31.000 But the one takeaway that I had is: I said, I sure hope that it wakes people up that when you sit and you do nothing, there are some very evil forces in this world.

00:12:42.000 Like unspeakably evil.

00:12:44.000 And there's no rationalizing with them.

00:12:47.000 There's no middle ground.

00:12:49.000 It is demonic bloodthirst. 0.98

00:12:51.000 And they come back and they are welcomed as heroes in Gaza.

00:12:56.000 They are welcomed as if they did some sort of military battle.

00:13:00.000 When they go door by door and no one even fights, they're begging for their life.

00:13:05.000 It's not as if they survived some sort of conquest and it was tough.

00:13:09.000 They had to experience artillery fire.

00:13:11.000 They were unopposed for hours, like savage beasts in the wild. 0.77

00:13:16.000 And they come home to the thrill of the Gazan women with their, you know, the Islamic, like they as if they won some sort of big battle, saying, Aluch Akbar, these people must be eliminated from the face of the earth that did this against these Jewish, against these people in Israel. 0.83

00:13:35.000 There is no middle ground. 0.96

00:13:37.000 And so, yeah, evil exists, and it is happy-talk modern Christianity that acts as if there is no evil in this world, or we can find some middle ground. 0.81

00:13:49.000 And they very well might be coming here soon, or they might already be here. 0.81

00:13:53.000 Romans 12 says, hate evil.

00:13:56.000 You must hate evil.

00:13:57.000 Yes.

00:13:57.000 Abort it and retain what is good.

00:14:00.000 You know, if I can share with you briefly the kind of actions that all of us can take. 0.74

00:14:07.000 You know, at the beginning of this year, we shared the biblical citizenship class.

00:14:12.000 And this older couple in their 70s, at the end, I said, church, this cannot be about texting memes to one another and complaining about how bad it is.

00:14:22.000 We must do something.

00:14:24.000 We prayed.

00:14:24.000 This elderly couple just went to their nearby village here.

00:14:29.000 They found out that they were about to have an election.

00:14:31.000 They knocked on 60 doors, held a block party.

00:14:35.000 They just began to, they selected three of the candidates and made it to the news and Fox News, Miami Shores.

00:14:42.000 They unseated people that do not need to be in charge of our village. 0.91

00:14:46.000 And I think the trouble is that too many Christians, too many good people are too busy between church activities and tennis and watching sports on TV.

00:14:55.000 And while we're doing that, living our good life that we plan for, there are a few players locally that have no interest in doing any of that.

00:15:03.000 And they're occupying places of influence, and the church is asleep.

00:15:08.000 And it's time to act.

00:15:10.000 And this just happened in our town a few months ago.

00:15:13.000 So the kind of action that we're calling to church and friends that are visiting, these things are possible now.

00:15:19.000 The battle is not lost.

00:15:20.000 It is time to act, and it is time to open our eyes to find out what's going on in your local government and act.

00:15:26.000 Amen.

00:15:29.000 Awesome.

00:15:30.000 Well, you already made you went really quickly into the woke and trends and all those things.

00:15:37.000 What are some things you travel extensively?

00:15:40.000 You know what the landscape looks like nationally.

00:15:43.000 What are some things that the church can do to prevent the infiltration?

00:15:48.000 In which subtle ways do you see it most effectively so that the church may be aware of how these ideologies permeate into church?

00:15:59.000 Yeah, so there's, let's go back to that kind of idea of the paganism, right?

00:16:04.000 So we are wired as religious beings.

00:16:09.000 So you have a God-sized hole in your heart that you have to fill with something.

00:16:13.000 There's really no such thing as a godless society.

00:16:17.000 When we say godless, we just mean the Christian God or the Jehovah is no longer the God of America. 0.99

00:16:25.000 They'll place it with some small G God. 1.00

00:16:27.000 It's a great example in the book of Exodus, right? 1.00

00:16:30.000 Moses basically says, hey, be right back.

00:16:33.000 God wants to talk to me, right?

00:16:35.000 And give me something pretty important.

00:16:37.000 So he goes up on the mountain. 0.90

00:16:39.000 And God's chosen people, after all the miracles that they've seen, delivered from Egypt, the parting of the Red Sea, they couldn't wait to get back to idol worship and paganism. 0.75

00:16:52.000 It's one of my favorite lines of the entire Bible. 0.88

00:16:54.000 Moses comes down, he just got delivered the Ten Commandments straight from God.

00:17:00.000 And of course, Aaron, he goes to Aaron, Aaron, what's going on here?

00:17:04.000 You know, they're having like a rave party, and you know, they have this golden calf.

00:17:09.000 And the rabbi would know the Hebrew, but it basically, Aaron was like, I threw the gold in the fire and out came the calf.

00:17:16.000 And it was like, it's like one of the worst excuses in the history.

00:17:20.000 It's like, yeah, I hate when that happens, right?

00:17:23.000 When I just throw the gold in the fire and up comes this big calf, right?

00:17:27.000 The calf is not insignificant, by the way.

00:17:28.000 The calf is a very common idol. 0.88

00:17:31.000 But here are people that saw God's goodness, God's deliverance, and they couldn't help themselves to get back to idol worship and paganism. 0.92

00:17:42.000 It's a reason why God says, by the way, you shall have no other gods before me. 0.89

00:17:47.000 And it's actually the Ten Statements in Hebrew, not the Ten Commandments.

00:17:51.000 But it goes through and it says, remember, I'm the Lord your God that delivered you from Egypt. 1.00

00:17:54.000 Like, just in case you forgot, I brought you numbskulls out of that place. 0.99

00:18:00.000 And there's a second lesson there that we'll get to later. 0.76

00:18:04.000 But if the church is not careful, the church very well might be introducing pagan golden calves into the holy.

00:18:13.000 And you might say, oh, we would never do that. 0.81

00:18:15.000 Well, there are fake religions that are no different that are now dominating society.

00:18:20.000 One, for example, is the religion of tolerance.

00:18:24.000 And a lot of Christians, they bow at the altar of tolerance over worshiping Jesus, where they believe we must be tolerant of evil.

00:18:34.000 And they say, well, we must be nice. 0.65

00:18:35.000 Nice is never found in the Bible.

00:18:37.000 Now, I'm not advocating being mean or be cruel, but this idea that you must win favor by compromising or watering down the word of God is nowhere to be found.

00:18:49.000 And so, you know, the cult of tolerance, they will tell you that you must do nothing while evil marches throughout your society.

00:18:57.000 That you must do nothing when tens of thousands of kids are chemically castrated and medically mutilated in the name of transition surgery.

00:19:07.000 That you must do nothing as the southern border remains wide open because diversity is our strength.

00:19:13.000 And this idea of the cult of tolerance is really built on bad theology, is what it is.

00:19:19.000 We're called to repudiate evil because we love God.

00:19:23.000 And modern Christianity has been abysmal at confronting evil and more specifically, naming evil.

00:19:30.000 We're afraid that someone might walk out of our church or someone might call us a bad name.

00:19:35.000 The church needs to continue to be the moral guide of the society.

00:19:41.000 Another one is, and this is one that's not talked about enough, is if there's one thing that Genesis does so clearly is that it denounces worship of the earth.

00:19:55.000 And almost every civilization prior to the Jews, they worship the river, the star, the suns. 0.69

00:20:02.000 Egypt did this, right? 0.86

00:20:03.000 They had, okay, we worship, you know, Ra, the sun god, or worship the Nile. 0.90

00:20:09.000 The separation that was laid out in Genesis 1 through 11 is God spoke nature into existence.

00:20:15.000 That we do not worship nature.

00:20:16.000 And you might say, oh, we're long past that.

00:20:18.000 The environmentalist movement in America are no better than the earth worshipers 5,000 years ago.

00:20:25.000 They are pagan earth worshipers that believe we as human beings are contaminating nature, that we are the invading force.

00:20:34.000 They outright talk about depopulation.

00:20:37.000 And you would be shocked at how many churches are now like, well, you know, we have to embrace this green energy agenda.

00:20:44.000 Nature is there for our purpose, to take dominion over the earth.

00:20:49.000 Nature is there so human beings can flourish, not that we worship nature because, you know, we think that some tree is going to give us some sort of ancestral power.

00:21:00.000 There's also, there is the cult, and I could call it a cult, or the pagan heretical belief of the blurring of distinctions.

00:21:09.000 So if you want to kind of distill a lot of the Old Testament, especially Genesis 1 through 11, you could say God created distinctions and God created order.

00:21:19.000 He created order out of chaos, right?

00:21:22.000 And chaos was the state of being before God comes. 0.65

00:21:25.000 Think about all the order that God created between light and darkness, the separation of good and evil, the separation of man and female, the separation of man and nature, holy and profane, the separation, all these separations, every single one, the modern Marxist left and weak Christians are trying to abolish. 0.99

00:21:47.000 That's what the trans movement is all about. 0.96

00:21:49.000 That's right. 0.96

00:21:50.000 Is obliterating the distinctions and the order that God naturally set up for us.

00:21:55.000 If you have no orders and you have no distinction, you have no civilization by definition.

00:22:01.000 The blurring of good and evil, release the prisons and defund the police.

00:22:06.000 No borders, no distinctions.

00:22:08.000 This is actually a Hermetic idea, but that's a little bit wonky.

00:22:12.000 We can get into that if you guys want.

00:22:13.000 But it's an ancient, weird Egyptian belief that the way that we get to oneness of the world is we iron out all differences and that we become a oneness of being.

00:22:25.000 So there's no male or female, there's no good or evil.

00:22:27.000 We all have like one group collective consciousness.

00:22:30.000 It comes from the Egyptian god Hermes, actually.

00:22:33.000 We get the idea of Hermeticism.

00:22:35.000 But the God of the Bible.

00:22:37.000 A dead God that was never God, Hermes. 0.83

00:22:39.000 And when I say God, I mean I say pagan God, right? 0.94

00:22:39.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.94

00:22:42.000 I'm using the word God and Jehovah or Adonai, right, or Yahweh interchangeably, right? 0.68

00:22:48.000 Just to be clear, I mean fake God, small G, right?

00:22:52.000 And where we are in society today is this very troubling pattern where the church is not standing for the moral order that God created.

00:23:06.000 We believe that church is nothing more than just raising your hand at a rock concert, wearing skinny jeans, and hoping people are going to give 10%.

00:23:16.000 When in reality, church is about creating disciples.

00:23:20.000 But church now needs to be correcting error and bringing truth to the world.

00:23:27.000 And we have lost that completely because we are living in a society that is morally and culturally and societally chaotic, and only the church can correct it.

00:23:36.000 This state of reprobate mindset, really.

00:23:39.000 Romans 1, as it says.

00:23:41.000 Well, you see it in the church, for example, the Andy Stanley situation, how with one side of the mouth stands for orthodox statements of biblical truth, and then in practice stands for something that opposes that.

00:23:55.000 That duplicity of mind, it's really concerning, and I think it needs to be denounced.

00:24:02.000 But if we don't do it in the church, who are we waiting to do that work?

00:24:05.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:24:07.000 And so are we going to wait on some local secular group to all of a sudden stand for righteousness?

00:24:13.000 And it is an uncomfortable truth for some Christians to hear because Christians have sat idly by on the inheritance of prior generations of courageous Christians. 0.59

00:24:24.000 I'm going to say a quote here. 0.53

00:24:26.000 I want you to imagine most Christian, you know, pastors saying this: Marxism is Satan's religion. 0.58

00:24:31.000 That's right.

00:24:31.000 Okay?

00:24:32.000 You know, Billy Graham said that?

00:24:34.000 That was Billy Graham.

00:24:36.000 The agreeable, the positive.

00:24:38.000 There is a sermon you should watch tonight or whenever.

00:24:41.000 Listen to Billy Graham on communism.

00:24:43.000 He went around the world saying that communism and socialism and Marxism are straight out of the pit of hell.

00:24:49.000 Every characteristic of Marxism is what Lucifer would want: envy, greed, pride, lust.

00:24:55.000 It is all rooted in Marxism.

00:24:57.000 If Billy Graham could talk about how Marxism is from the pit of hell, why don't our modern pastors?

00:25:03.000 Because you know what they say?

00:25:04.000 Well, I don't want to be political.

00:25:06.000 What they're saying is they don't want to be biblical.

00:25:09.000 That's what they're saying.

00:25:11.000 They're saying they don't want to be biblical, that they don't want to believe in.

00:25:16.000 And you should lovingly challenge them.

00:25:18.000 Well, then, do you not believe in Esther, Mordecai, Daniel, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, or Joseph?

00:25:22.000 Was Joseph wrong to counsel the king?

00:25:25.000 Was Daniel wrong to engage in politics?

00:25:29.000 Was Mordecai wrong?

00:25:31.000 Was Esther wrong?

00:25:33.000 God, throughout the scriptures, has elevated people as heroes to be counselor to the king, to be the moral compass of a society.

00:25:42.000 The founding fathers quoted Deuteronomy, Moses' farewell address, Deuteronomy, second laws, more than any other book, secular or religious, in the composition of the American founding documents, the Declaration of the Federalist Papers, of the Constitution.

00:25:57.000 You read Deuteronomy, you realize you could set up a government when you read Deuteronomy.

00:26:02.000 Justice, justice you shall pursue, as it says.

00:26:05.000 So that's a pretty good statement.

00:26:07.000 The American founders saw that.

00:26:08.000 They said, we must have justice as a bedrock principle.

00:26:11.000 The American trinity, e pluribus unum, liberty, in God we trust, comes directly out of the truths of the Bible.

00:26:19.000 You don't get them ex nihilo out of nothing.

00:26:21.000 You don't just draw them from Machiavelli and Edmund Burke.

00:26:24.000 The Bible built everything that you enjoy.

00:26:28.000 The lack of the Bible is destroying everything that you enjoy, and only the Bible can save everything that you want your children to enjoy.

00:26:36.000 That's right.

00:26:44.000 Well, as you're speaking, I think we all know Miami is largely a Hispanic Latin population, and many of us come from a socialist struggle.

00:26:59.000 And I, on top of being the pastor of Harvest Church, I lead an organization internationally where we plan churches, but we integrate the same type of harvest church with the four pillars and all of that.

00:27:12.000 We integrate a discipleship that informs us on how to be active citizens of our city and of our nation.

00:27:21.000 It's called Gospel Echo, Echo, EKO, Ecclesia, Church, Ki Bernesi's Government, O Oikos.

00:27:28.000 And so we trying to raise this sense. 0.96

00:27:32.000 So if I can maybe touch the nerve of some of our audience this evening, many of us come from a lost plight, a lost fight in our Latin American countries.

00:27:46.000 Speaking about Nicaragua, Cuba, Chile, etc. I think there's hope for America because the story of those nations is different.

00:27:56.000 What would you say in a hopeful way?

00:28:00.000 Why should we fight again?

00:28:02.000 Those of us who've made it here, seeing our nation.

00:28:06.000 My father just came back from Cuba.

00:28:07.000 He says, Abiyo, Cuba is just two days away from becoming Haiti.

00:28:11.000 It's just regressing. 1.00

00:28:12.000 You turn on the TV and the Yoruba religion dominates. 0.99

00:28:16.000 It's just the Orishao, the Santeria is just predominant in the culture. 1.00

00:28:22.000 It's regressing to the obscure, to darkness.

00:28:26.000 What could you say?

00:28:27.000 How is America different?

00:28:28.000 What is the fabric in us that will cause us to believe again and to fight together?

00:28:33.000 Yeah, it's funny.

00:28:34.000 I was recently flying back from the Caribbean and they allow you to fly over Cuba now at 40,000 feet.

00:28:39.000 And I was with one of my team members and I was tracking the flight.

00:28:42.000 And I said, hey, look out the window.

00:28:43.000 What do you see?

00:28:45.000 He said, nothing.

00:28:45.000 It's darkness.

00:28:47.000 I said, what do you think we're flying over?

00:28:48.000 He said, oh, over the Caribbean.

00:28:50.000 He said, no, we're flying over a country.

00:28:53.000 I said, it's a perfectly clear night.

00:28:56.000 He said, you're flying over a country.

00:28:58.000 He said, look closer.

00:28:59.000 You could barely see a light where Havana is, barely.

00:29:03.000 It's like, yeah, that's the ballgame.

00:29:08.000 You want to radicalize a young, you're not radicalize, or open up the eyes of a young 20-year-old college student who thinks socialism is a great answer?

00:29:17.000 Just fly over Cuba at night.

00:29:21.000 Look, socialists can be broken into two major categories, okay?

00:29:27.000 The first is psychologically much harder to explain and unpack, but probably more important, which are very, very rich people that want to redesign society in their making and their liking, and they want to be oligarchs of a socialist society.

00:29:43.000 They want to be the Castros. 0.79

00:29:45.000 They want to be the Mussolinis and the Mao's. 1.00

00:29:48.000 We could focus a lot of attention on them because they're a very, very evil group of people. 1.00

00:29:54.000 The second group of people, to put it lightly, are people too lazy, too dumb, too stupid to ever make a dollar in the market, so they want to take other people's stuff. 1.00

00:30:02.000 That's right. 1.00

00:30:03.000 So that's based, and people driven by resentment and greed and envy.

00:30:08.000 That's who's in the second bucket. 0.90

00:30:09.000 And the masters of the universe, the puppet class, they use the resentment of the lower class to mobilize to keep themselves in power, even though the underclass never get any richer and more powerful. 0.88

00:30:22.000 And this cycle repeats itself over and over again. 0.78

00:30:25.000 So one of the main reasons, and this is why I wish every church would just preach the Bible, because you could obliterate Marxism in one sermon if you just open up your Bible.

00:30:35.000 One sermon.

00:30:36.000 You need to ask the question, are human beings naturally good?

00:30:41.000 It's a very simple question.

00:30:43.000 And the answer is, of course not.

00:30:46.000 But let's look at what the scriptures have to show us about the Hebrews.

00:30:49.000 Here's how I know the Bible is true: God took the Jewish people and built them into a great nation.

00:30:55.000 Pretty impressive. 1.00

00:30:56.000 No offense, but they complain all the time.

00:30:58.000 They're constantly lying. 1.00

00:30:59.000 You know, it's pretty impressive how you take the Jewish people and you build them into something great. 1.00

00:31:03.000 You could do it with them, you could do it with anybody. 1.00

00:31:06.000 And so they leave Israel.

00:31:08.000 And not only are they doing the golden calf thing and all that, within a couple days, they're complaining. 0.63

00:31:12.000 God blows coil off course, manna from heaven.

00:31:16.000 Literally, in the book of Numbers, it says the Hebrews complain that they didn't have cucumbers, melons, leeks.

00:31:24.000 And they said, Bring us back to Egypt because at least we had better food and we had meat.

00:31:32.000 Bring us back to slavery.

00:31:34.000 We would rather be taken care of than to be free.

00:31:40.000 And you think about that.

00:31:42.000 I never, by the way, I heard that message eight years ago.

00:31:47.000 Okay?

00:31:48.000 And I read it in my Bible, and I remember going up to my pastor and I said, No, no, no, no, people want to be free.

00:31:54.000 I fought him.

00:31:55.000 I said, No, no, no, this is a different place, different time.

00:31:58.000 Then I lived through COVID.

00:32:02.000 People do not want to be free.

00:32:04.000 They don't.

00:32:06.000 If you have a society that embraces freedom, you have something very, very rare.

00:32:11.000 It's a value.

00:32:13.000 You have a temptation to naturally want to sit at home and get stuff for nothing and want what your neighbor has.

00:32:20.000 What was the first murder in the Bible?

00:32:22.000 Socialism.

00:32:26.000 The first murder in the Bible was socialism.

00:32:29.000 How often do you have a pastor tell you that?

00:32:32.000 Two sacrifices.

00:32:34.000 God likes one of them, doesn't love one of them.

00:32:37.000 Resentment, murder.

00:32:41.000 All throughout the scriptures, you see envy.

00:32:45.000 I want somebody else's stuff.

00:32:47.000 I don't have it as good.

00:32:49.000 Drive you to very evil and dark places.

00:32:51.000 So if you think human beings are naturally great, then you think you can create heaven on earth.

00:32:59.000 And that is the promise of socialism.

00:33:02.000 That you can create a place of perfection.

00:33:04.000 For those of you that grew up in Cuba, how often do they talk about viva la revolution?

00:33:08.000 Just one more year, one more decade, we're going to bring in the greatest thing ever.

00:33:13.000 And then you say, well, why don't we have any food?

00:33:14.000 It's the Americans' fault.

00:33:16.000 Right? 1.00

00:33:17.000 Because they're blockading us. 0.96

00:33:19.000 Yeah, but you keep on shooting people. 0.81

00:33:21.000 Ah, no, no, no, no, forget it. 1.00

00:33:22.000 It's the Westerners' fault. 1.00

00:33:25.000 Now, let me connect some big dots for you. 0.85

00:33:28.000 The unclean spirit of blaming other people for your problems.

00:33:31.000 It's the blockade.

00:33:33.000 It's an apartheid state. 0.79

00:33:36.000 It's the same through line of BLM in this country, Hamas in the Middle East, and the socialists and the communists all throughout South America. 0.72

00:33:45.000 Which is we're never going to govern through an idea of we take responsibility for our own actions.

00:33:52.000 We're going to try to improve our life.

00:33:54.000 It's somebody else's problem.

00:33:56.000 Because it comes from a flawed perspective where they think human beings are naturally great, and anything wrong in the world is because of the structure or the system.

00:34:07.000 Capitalism, xenophobia, you know, homophobia, all these reasons why the world is so bad.

00:34:14.000 And this explains why when I go to a college campus and I'm debating a brat who hasn't showered in two weeks, smells, unshaven, no job, you know, reeks of marijuana, telling me that America is the problem. 0.72

00:34:38.000 When in reality, someone needs to say, you're the problem.

00:34:41.000 That's right. 0.95

00:34:41.000 The biggest problem is you. 0.95

00:34:44.000 How about you stop smoking weed, wake up earlier, start taking responsibility for your life, but that's a cop-out.

00:34:51.000 It's a cop-out for a generation that does not want to say the biggest problem in the world is me.

00:34:59.000 They would rather blame some other external problem for it.

00:35:02.000 Marxism preys on these people.

00:35:05.000 They weaponize them and they fill them with backwards ideology.

00:35:10.000 So you might be wondering, why fight here?

00:35:12.000 Well, first of all, God wants you to fight tyranny in all of its forms.

00:35:16.000 If pastors were honest to the Bible, they would say something very clearly.

00:35:20.000 God does not want humanity to live in authoritarianism.

00:35:23.000 He delivered the Jews from Egypt that lived under slavery and lived under tyranny.

00:35:28.000 Jesus says in John 10, 10, one of my favorite verses, it summarizes good versus evil better than anything as close.

00:35:35.000 The enemy has come to lie, steal, cheat, and destroy.

00:35:39.000 I have come to give life and life more abundantly.

00:35:41.000 Boom.

00:35:42.000 Which side are you on? 0.83

00:35:43.000 Lying, cheating, stealing, or destroying, or life more abundantly. 0.99

00:35:47.000 In Cuba, they are not living with life or life more abundantly. 0.56

00:35:51.000 It is oppressive.

00:35:53.000 If you've never visited a Marxist country, you should.

00:35:57.000 It is a different spiritual dynamic.

00:35:59.000 It is heavy.

00:36:00.000 And if you're not, just go to Portland.

00:36:01.000 It feels exactly the same.

00:36:04.000 New York City feels the same.

00:36:05.000 Boston feels that way now.

00:36:07.000 Seattle feels that way now.

00:36:09.000 Philadelphia feels that way now.

00:36:11.000 San Francisco feels that way now.

00:36:15.000 Chicago, where I grew up, feels that way now.

00:36:18.000 Where the citizenry feel hopeless.

00:36:21.000 And then you made a very, very important point.

00:36:24.000 They get into the occult because they need some way to try to figure it out, right? 0.91

00:36:30.000 So they get into the witch doctors or the tart card, tarot card readers, or the kind of like Oprah Winfrey book club thing where it's like, yeah, we're going to kind of like be one with the universe, like this kind of Eastern Buddhist thing that so many Christians are now embracing. 0.90

00:36:48.000 And it brings darkness upon your land.

00:36:50.000 And it makes you respect and just admire the goodness of God of what the Word of God has done for civilization.

00:36:59.000 Nothing has come even close to liberating people to live a decent life.

00:37:06.000 Nothing.

00:37:06.000 And I don't think we as Christians talk about the fruit of the Bible enough.

00:37:10.000 I think we do a good job of speaking about heaven and the afterlife.

00:37:14.000 But look at the goodness that the Bible has given the world.

00:37:17.000 We have a Christian inheritance.

00:37:19.000 You want to know what people are like left to their own devices? 0.71

00:37:21.000 Hamas is what they're like.

00:37:25.000 We call it uncivilized or barbarism for a reason.

00:37:28.000 Well, what is civilized? 1.00

00:37:29.000 The Bible civilized society. 1.00

00:37:32.000 You go in that direction, they rape, they take kids. 1.00

00:37:35.000 There's nothing wrong with it. 0.99

00:37:36.000 They celebrate it.

00:37:37.000 Who's to say that is wrong? 0.99

00:37:38.000 Absent a Christian worldview, that is considered great. 0.99

00:37:42.000 30 Harvard organizers in the last 24 hours came out and signed an open letter saying it is wonderful what happened in Israel. 1.00

00:37:52.000 Harvard, Columbia University, something very similar. 0.93

00:37:57.000 They are the most godless institutions.

00:38:01.000 Remember, they have some other God that replaces it.

00:38:04.000 You might say they have no wisdom, of course, because the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

00:38:10.000 And that's why one of the reasons they believe all the stuff they believe.

00:38:13.000 So look, if you're sick of fighting Marxism, you're in the wrong country.

00:38:16.000 You are now living in one of the most, I think, high-stakes battles in the history of humanity.

00:38:23.000 And God wants us to defeat these Marxists because I believe the ideology is from the pit of hell.

00:38:28.000 That's right.

00:38:29.000 I believe so.

00:38:32.000 You know, you mentioned that the first murder was because of socialism.

00:38:38.000 The first socialist to make it to the new world was actually Christopher Columbus.

00:38:43.000 This is Columbus Day.

00:38:44.000 Exactly.

00:38:47.000 When he left, he didn't know where he was going.

00:38:48.000 When he landed, he didn't know where he was.

00:38:51.000 And he did the whole thing with other people's money.

00:38:53.000 That's why he's a great socialist.

00:38:55.000 That was a joke.

00:38:58.000 This word, great reset, and you were kind of touching on these powers and all of that.

00:39:03.000 What should Christians, how should we think we believe in cataclysmic events that God controls?

00:39:12.000 Such a term, you know, has a certain impact on Christians.

00:39:16.000 What would you say of this great reset that brings chills up spines of certain people?

00:39:23.000 Yeah, I mean, I could talk at it at length.

00:39:26.000 I mean, they have an agenda.

00:39:28.000 They want to change the globe by 2030.

00:39:31.000 You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. 0.78

00:39:33.000 They'll plug you into machines and you'll be a transhumanist robot. 0.93

00:39:37.000 They are already doing a great job of obliterating the currency, which is a big part. 0.98

00:39:42.000 You must destroy the U.S. dollar, keep the borders completely and totally wide open.

00:39:46.000 And you might say, Charlie, what is driving this?

00:39:48.000 How could people be this evil?

00:39:50.000 Well, thankfully, we as Christians do not have to answer that question.

00:39:53.000 It's very simple. 0.51

00:39:55.000 The last story told before the first Jew, Abraham, is exactly what is going on. 0.91

00:40:01.000 It is Genesis 11 playing itself all over again. 0.87

00:40:04.000 The reconstruction of the city of Babel.

00:40:06.000 That's all that it is.

00:40:08.000 To create a one-world government.

00:40:08.000 That's right.

00:40:10.000 It's Nimrod in its own way.

00:40:12.000 By the way, I could do a two-hour speech on the profundity of Genesis 11.

00:40:21.000 Let us make a city for our name, the pride that takes, not the name of God.

00:40:25.000 Nimrod says, we want to do it for us, in our name.

00:40:29.000 God sees this.

00:40:30.000 He's like, whoa, this is not going to end well.

00:40:35.000 That was an attempt at a one-world government.

00:40:39.000 That was the World Economic Forum.

00:40:41.000 That was Klaus Schwab.

00:40:42.000 That was the UN. 0.80

00:40:44.000 What if I told you the Bible created the idea of borders? 0.82

00:40:48.000 Separation.

00:40:50.000 The idea of a sovereign nation is a biblical idea.

00:40:54.000 So it should make sense as the world becomes less biblical.

00:40:57.000 They don't want sovereign nations.

00:41:00.000 They want oneness.

00:41:01.000 And we've kind of allowed this to slowly drip in.

00:41:04.000 And I'm not even saying this was a bad idea, but the European Union project was largely an idea of eroding sovereignty.

00:41:11.000 It's just, you know, you have one currency.

00:41:13.000 They speak more English than they speak their native languages now in Germany because it's just kind of the way that all the countries can communicate with one another.

00:41:21.000 And there's some positives and negatives to that.

00:41:23.000 But you look at all these transnational alliances.

00:41:27.000 There's one thing that stands, really two things that stand in the way.

00:41:29.000 Israel stands in the way too, but that's why they're going after it so hard.

00:41:32.000 And by the way, any sympathy you see for Israel, wait one week, everyone's going to be against Israel, okay?

00:41:37.000 Don't be fooled. 0.59

00:41:38.000 One week, mark it right now.

00:41:40.000 Every international organization is going to say, look at they're bombing hospitals and schools.

00:41:44.000 Just wait.

00:41:44.000 Give it one week.

00:41:45.000 Public opinion will flip on its head.

00:41:47.000 Guarantee it.

00:41:48.000 The second part, though, is America.

00:41:51.000 America is the country that should not exist in the eyes of the satanic Genesis 11 globalists.

00:41:57.000 We're too strong.

00:41:59.000 We're too free.

00:42:00.000 We're too unified.

00:42:01.000 We're too willing to fight evil.

00:42:03.000 And the reason why Joe Biden, who's a traitor to the United States, by the way, the reason why Joe, and he's an active traitor, he's not like he betrayed us once.

00:42:12.000 He is betraying us on an hourly basis.

00:42:15.000 Okay?

00:42:16.000 Hourly.

00:42:20.000 The reason why he keeps the border completely and totally wide open is that he must destroy American sovereignty.

00:42:29.000 No borders, no America.

00:42:31.000 You could bring in a one-world type government.

00:42:34.000 There is an important theme I want to introduce to you, though, and we as Christians can understand.

00:42:40.000 So, we have this idea of the escaton.

00:42:43.000 The escaton is the world that Christ will govern when he returns.

00:42:49.000 The 1,000-world reign, right?

00:42:52.000 The left believes in their own escaton, in their own heaven on earth.

00:42:58.000 They think they're doing the right thing. 0.62

00:43:03.000 And I want to just, this is a Jewish belief more than a Christian belief.

00:43:07.000 And I want to just challenge people because people say, Charlie, it's all about intentions.

00:43:12.000 Only thing that matters is intentions.

00:43:15.000 And I don't believe that.

00:43:18.000 And you don't believe it either.

00:43:19.000 Intentions can matter in certain situations.

00:43:22.000 Okay?

00:43:22.000 Let me prove it to you.

00:43:23.000 That if my wife tells me to take out the garbage and I forget versus my actively not defying her and not taking out the garbage, those are two different situations.

00:43:35.000 Would you agree?

00:43:36.000 Me forgetting versus me saying, I'm not doing it out of spite.

00:43:41.000 Big difference.

00:43:42.000 But when we look at the revolutionaries, should we cut them slack because they think they're creating heaven? 0.98

00:43:51.000 Some Christians say we should.

00:43:54.000 They say they think they're doing well, so they're not doing evil.

00:43:58.000 You know, most evil people never think they're doing evil.

00:44:03.000 More evil has been done in the name of good than anything else. 0.57

00:44:06.000 Hitler thought he was doing good. 0.86

00:44:08.000 He did not wake up every day and say, you know what? 0.59

00:44:10.000 I'm going to go do some evil.

00:44:13.000 Very, very few people believe that.

00:44:17.000 And so what I'm trying to tell you is that the people we're fighting, they think we're evil, and we think we know they're evil.

00:44:27.000 But they've convinced themselves they're doing something good that makes them much harder to defeat.

00:44:34.000 Much harder.

00:44:35.000 Because you might say, Charlie, how could they possibly?

00:44:37.000 Because they think they're creating nirvana.

00:44:39.000 They think they're going to be able to get rid of the borders, get rid of private property, get rid of America, get rid of colonialism, get rid of homophobia, and we're going to live in John Lenin's world.

00:44:49.000 And everyone will get along and roll into the hills.

00:44:52.000 And more people have died under this false promise of heaven on earth than almost any other idea in the last 100 years.

00:45:00.000 I was at a Christian university, and a young man came up and he said, Charlie, I think you're too nasty towards the intentions of other people.

00:45:07.000 And I say, the intentions are irrelevant.

00:45:10.000 It is the evil that we must judge.

00:45:13.000 I'm sure they've convinced themselves they're doing good, but they are destroying the nation and their actions themselves are evil.

00:45:21.000 That's right.

00:45:22.000 That's right.

00:45:28.000 It is in this age of information when we know what is right on paper and the actions that follow.

00:45:38.000 It's the same thing that I mentioned before, the church, how it happens.

00:45:44.000 You see European nations that do not fully declare themselves socialists, but they include enough of that.

00:45:50.000 It is a slow war.

00:45:52.000 And if we're not that radical, I appreciate you, and we all do, it's because you have the courage to cut it clear and clean because the consequences of not doing that is the whole frog warming up, you know, the effect of gradually when we wake up, it's too late.

00:46:12.000 My concern, again, for the church, who is the hope of the world, I believe is that we are waiting for something to happen to us personally to then react, and it might be too late.

00:46:24.000 And there are too many Cubans and Venezuelans and too many people from other nations that can tell all of us and America at large that it could happen.

00:46:33.000 And if we don't act now, when we find out personally, it might be too late.

00:46:38.000 Can I say, yeah, go ahead.

00:46:40.000 And I hate to be the downer here, but I think it's already here.

00:46:46.000 My whole career, I've said Marxism is near.

00:46:50.000 In the last three weeks, I now say it has arrived and it has captured the country.

00:46:58.000 And I can prove it to you. 0.88

00:47:01.000 I have no explanation other than a captured Marxist country where we have crime going up in every major city and Donald Trump faces 700 years in federal prison. 0.83

00:47:12.000 January 6th defendants is, I think the January 6th defendants are no different than the political prisoners in Havana during Castro's revolution. 0.75

00:47:21.000 They are no different in my eyes.

00:47:24.000 No different. 0.82

00:47:26.000 When I see Donald Trump's assets might be taken from him in New York, that's something that Castro would do.

00:47:34.000 He'd say, you're the billionaire former president.

00:47:36.000 I don't like you. 1.00

00:47:37.000 I'm going to call you a fascist. 1.00

00:47:38.000 I'm going to take all your hotels. 0.99

00:47:40.000 Maduro would do that.

00:47:42.000 Chavez would do that.

00:47:44.000 You guys know exactly of what I speak.

00:47:46.000 And then I'm going to just kind of, I think we're going to do questions in a second, right?

00:47:49.000 But there is a boy, this is not exactly a fun topic.

00:47:57.000 Don't believe that things will naturally turn around just because they get so bad and people will wake up. 0.74

00:48:05.000 Israel example, obviously, that happens.

00:48:08.000 People say, oh, whatever. 0.95

00:48:09.000 You know, go Palestine.

00:48:12.000 I will tell you one story that I think will open your eyes to how insidious this ideology is. 0.99

00:48:19.000 Young couple at 3.51 a.m. is sitting on a park bench in Brooklyn, New York.

00:48:24.000 A black man crosses them and they get in some sort of a conflict.

00:48:28.000 Now, both of these people are to the left of Joseph Stalin, right? 0.95

00:48:31.000 There is, and I don't wish death upon my enemies.

00:48:33.000 I don't do that, okay?

00:48:35.000 But they're about defund the police and all that, okay?

00:48:37.000 This young man gets in some sort of an argument. 0.96

00:48:40.000 His throat is slit by this young black guy, and he dies.

00:48:44.000 Weirdly enough, his girlfriend doesn't apply first aid.

00:48:47.000 It's a very strange thing, right?

00:48:50.000 But it gets sicker.

00:48:53.000 The young girlfriend, the police come, and they say, hey, you know, describe to us who did this.

00:48:59.000 And she says, well, I'm not going to tell you the race because I don't want to perpetuate racism.

00:49:05.000 Of course, obviously at that moment, you know, it's a black person, right?

00:49:08.000 So it's like, okay, thanks for telling us who did it. 0.94

00:49:11.000 You're not exactly going to hold back the race if it's a Scottish guy, right?

00:49:15.000 So, but hold on a second.

00:49:18.000 Understand how sick this is.

00:49:20.000 She just saw her boyfriend get murdered in the streets, and she's more worried about people thinking racist thoughts than justice for the killer.

00:49:30.000 Okay?

00:49:32.000 How do you defeat that?

00:49:35.000 I mean, that is a religion.

00:49:39.000 That is adherence to something that is fanaticism.

00:49:42.000 I'll tell you another example. 0.94

00:49:43.000 In Germany, a young lady was gang raped by six Arabs.

00:49:48.000 Arab refugees, because diversity is our strength, right? 1.00

00:49:51.000 So just bring in as many people from the third world as possible. 1.00

00:49:53.000 By the way, not a joke, there's sleeper cells all over the country. 1.00

00:49:56.000 I pray they don't go off and Americans don't die.

00:49:58.000 They have, because we've allowed 10 million people to come into our country, okay?

00:50:02.000 So buy guns and walk around with one because this is about to get really hot really soon.

00:50:06.000 I pray I'm wrong. 0.99

00:50:07.000 Anyway, six Arabs go into Germany, gang rape a girl. 0.99

00:50:10.000 The police, you know, she goes in and she says, she's traumatically, what could be worse for a female than six men gang raping her? 0.99

00:50:17.000 Apparently something is worse.

00:50:19.000 They say, describe who did this. 1.00

00:50:21.000 And she said, six white Germans raped me. 0.99

00:50:24.000 So they go on a manhunt for six white Germans. 0.99

00:50:27.000 And after a couple weeks, you know, they have nothing but dead ends. 0.99

00:50:30.000 They go back to her.

00:50:31.000 Turns out, they interview her and she said, well, I didn't want to continue the anti-immigrant hatred in Germany.

00:50:38.000 She was protecting her rapists for ideology. 1.00

00:50:42.000 I don't even know how to think about that, to be honest. 0.93

00:50:45.000 A young lady gets gang raped and she wants to protect them because she's afraid that other people might think negatively of immigration from the Arab world.

00:50:55.000 We're not dealing with rationality here, people. 0.86

00:50:58.000 This is spiritual warfare.

00:51:01.000 This is straight from the pit of hell.

00:51:03.000 This is Lucifer himself that is manifested in cult-like ideologies that the college industry launders and repurposes.

00:51:11.000 There's no reasoning with these people.

00:51:13.000 There's no finding middle ground.

00:51:14.000 If you see your boyfriend's throat get slit and you're worried about describing that person because of racism, you're not dealing with something where you can all of a sudden find a middle ground.

00:51:25.000 We must defeat these people.

00:51:26.000 It's the only option.

00:51:33.000 Turn it over to you now, everyone.

00:51:36.000 Chip Moore, he's the regional director for TPUSA in Florida.

00:51:39.000 Will you wave high, applaud.

00:51:43.000 Great job here.

00:51:50.000 Yeah, and I do believe.

00:51:53.000 There we go.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, we'll do some questions.

00:51:54.000 I do want to try to talk a little bit more about the Israel situation as well.

00:51:58.000 And so if anyone has a question about that, I would love to lead with that in the first couple questions.

00:52:02.000 I know I peppered that in, but I think there's a lot of takeaways there.

00:52:07.000 So anyway, so anyway, the number one turning point USA high school leader in the country right here does a great job.

00:52:17.000 Number one in the whole country.

00:52:19.000 All right, what's your question?

00:52:21.000 All righty, Charlie.

00:52:22.000 Thank you.

00:52:23.000 So my question is based around what's happening in Israel, but I wouldn't want to say, and I've had a lot of my friends in school who are Muslim bring it up to me. 0.51

00:52:33.000 And they're obviously defending, in this case, Palestine, right?

00:52:37.000 They don't look at it much of a Hamas type of thing because that's not the narrative that the left is pushing, right?

00:52:44.000 But I do want to maybe entice another topic into it and see if you could tackle it.

00:52:51.000 So Genesis 9, 6 says, whoever sheds the blood of man by man, shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.

00:53:02.000 So considering that, apart from the fact that war is something that is always occurring and something that is inevitable, should capital punishment be something that is legal in the U.S. as a whole?

00:53:22.000 And how do you think that we as conservatives should sort of avoid the negative stereotype against Muslims who aren't terrorists? 1.00

00:53:32.000 Yeah, no, that's fair.

00:53:34.000 I mean, let me first start with the first one. 0.95

00:53:37.000 I have not seen an adequate amount of outrage by quote-unquote peaceful Muslims about what's happened here. 0.82

00:53:42.000 This was not like a stroll in the park or a military base. 0.72

00:53:46.000 You know, let me just tell you, when I woke up on Saturday morning, I turn off my phone.

00:53:49.000 I do a Jewish Shabbat.

00:53:50.000 It's great.

00:53:51.000 I recommend it.

00:53:51.000 It's amazing.

00:53:52.000 And yet I was watching college football.

00:53:54.000 It's the one thing that I give an exception for, right?

00:53:56.000 And I'm flipping the channels.

00:53:57.000 And this sounds bad, but when I saw the news reports of war in Israel, battle in Israel, I feel like I'm used to it, right?

00:54:04.000 Rockets go back and forth.

00:54:06.000 Unfortunately, a couple dozen people die, and it kind of simmers down.

00:54:10.000 And I start going back to the channel throughout the day, and they're like, 200 people dead.

00:54:14.000 I'm like, what?

00:54:14.000 300?

00:54:15.000 I'm like, whoa, And they're talking about kids.

00:54:18.000 Like, no one gets kidnapped in Israel.

00:54:20.000 That's a big deal.

00:54:21.000 I hope you understand.

00:54:22.000 That is a big deal.

00:54:24.000 The last time that there was an Israeli kidnapping was like 2005, right?

00:54:28.000 2001?

00:54:30.000 It's like 20 years ago, right?

00:54:32.000 So they have 100 people.

00:54:34.000 This is not normal, right?

00:54:37.000 But I don't want to generalize because I think that's sloppy intellectually.

00:54:43.000 But it is a fact that when these people returned home, the quote-unquote peaceful people of Gaza treated them like heroes.

00:54:53.000 It's a fact that in Turkey, a NATO member, by the way, why that ever happened, I don't know.

00:54:59.000 They're celebrating.

00:55:00.000 Celebrating.

00:55:01.000 In Qatar, they're celebrating.

00:55:04.000 So spare me the lecture about how wonderful and how peaceful you guys are, okay? 0.99

00:55:09.000 Like you're institutionally defending this crap. 0.97

00:55:13.000 And I need to see the goods, to be perfectly honest with you, right? 1.00

00:55:18.000 And when I see like Saudi Arabia, they're like, well, we need to de-escalate. 1.00

00:55:22.000 Easy for you guys to say, Saudi Arabia, okay? 1.00

00:55:25.000 Like if you had a bunch of somebody come into Saudi Arabia and go into nurseries, I don't mean to like bother your day, but sometimes you have to talk about the evil.

00:55:33.000 They dismembered 18-month-year-old babies on Saturday for sport and live streamed it.

00:55:39.000 This is not a military operation. 0.61

00:55:42.000 This is a mini Holocaust, okay? 0.66

00:55:45.000 And I do not use that language lightly, okay?

00:55:48.000 I am not a person to call people Nazis.

00:55:50.000 I get called a Nazi all the time.

00:55:52.000 It sickens me when people cheapen that language. 0.90

00:55:54.000 This is the closest thing.

00:55:56.000 In fact, it is the closest thing to the Holocaust we've seen in 80 years.

00:55:59.000 And I have to be told by Harvard that it's the beginning of a great liberation.

00:56:03.000 And Colombia.

00:56:07.000 It really baffles the mind. 1.00

00:56:08.000 So I don't know how to reason with your Muslim friends. 1.00

00:56:12.000 Tell them to go reform their religion and then we'll get back, you know, get back to us, honestly. 1.00

00:56:16.000 Like, I've lost patience with them, to be perfectly honest. 1.00

00:56:19.000 I'll believe it when I see it.

00:56:21.000 To the second part, capital punishment.

00:56:24.000 Yes, morally, I believe in capital punishment. 0.94

00:56:26.000 Our country is so screwed up, though, because of how litigious we are. 0.62

00:56:30.000 We kill the wrong person far too often, so that's a real thing. 0.87

00:56:34.000 So my belief is we need to be very careful when we use capital punishment because there have been about 40 people that have been wrongfully executed in the last 30 years.

00:56:43.000 I think that's a great injustice.

00:56:45.000 But yeah, like, for example, when I see the guy in Bemidji, Minnesota, who was the leader of a gang rape of an 11-year-old, I think we should have a quick and speedy trial and publicly execute these people.

00:56:59.000 And I know that sounds medieval and extreme, but I believe that for certain crimes of depravity so heinous, the killing should be done in public, it should be done quickly, and it should be done as a sign as a deterrent.

00:57:16.000 We give way too many concessions to these animals.

00:57:19.000 Now, if there's DNA, like there's this case in Oklahoma where this guy's on death row and it's like he hired somebody for it and they don't have DNA evidence, they should just take that off of the death row case, life in prison.

00:57:30.000 Like, we don't exactly strengthen our case when we go to the suspect cases.

00:57:36.000 That's my personal opinion.

00:57:36.000 I'll be very honest.

00:57:38.000 But when it's clear-cut, admission of guilt, right, and you could see it, the Bible is morally clear about it.

00:57:45.000 And I changed my opinion.

00:57:46.000 I used to not believe that a couple years ago.

00:57:49.000 But then I studied my Bible more closely and started to love the Old Testament more.

00:57:55.000 Yes?

00:57:57.000 First of all, thank you so much for everything you do.

00:57:59.000 My name is Jerry Newcomb.

00:58:00.000 You interviewed me once, and I appreciate that.

00:58:03.000 About six months ago, it was in reference to the...

00:58:06.000 I remember that.

00:58:07.000 You do?

00:58:07.000 I actually have the program that we showed an excerpt from.

00:58:11.000 I'd like you to have these.

00:58:12.000 But anyway, just real fast, I wanted to ask you about the issue of abortion.

00:58:16.000 Because lately, what the left is doing is they're spending millions and millions and millions of dollars in these different states for referendums, and then they're coming up with the liberal votes, and now the narrative is basically, well, if you're pro-life, abortion is a losing issue.

00:58:35.000 And I know the other side of that is, well, okay, look at Ron DeSantis.

00:58:39.000 He did pretty well, and he was very strongly pro-life.

00:58:41.000 But still, you know, I'd like your thoughts on that.

00:58:45.000 Yes, so I'm 100% pro-life, even so that I lose people on my advocacy.

00:58:50.000 I don't waver when it comes to the defense of the unborn.

00:58:54.000 And so I don't even believe in exceptions for rape and incest.

00:58:58.000 That's how morally clear I am on it, just so we're very clear.

00:59:02.000 With that being said, I'm not, my principled moral teaching, which is 100% clear, is different than what I would give political advice on.

00:59:12.000 So there's three different categories, okay?

00:59:14.000 So you have principles, and then you have political power.

00:59:17.000 And the only way you can get your principles in to effect is with political power.

00:59:22.000 And then comes the messy and uncomfortable middle ground where a lot of Christians don't like ever talking about, which is politics, right?

00:59:32.000 And politics is the art of the possible.

00:59:35.000 And I'm not saying we should ever waver in our belief, but we also have to understand that my 100% belief on no exceptions for abortion is not where the country is at.

00:59:46.000 It's just not.

00:59:47.000 And so when certain candidates say I will run on an eight-week ban, I think that's a step in the right direction.

00:59:54.000 I think incrementalism is something that we should embrace 100% and then win over people and win over hearts and minds and be there for young women that are in distress.

01:00:02.000 So all those things can be simultaneously true.

01:00:05.000 And we must also speak another truth.

01:00:09.000 If the 2024 election is only about abortion, we will lose.

01:00:13.000 And I say that as a pro-life warrior who debates this topic and goes to crisis centers and raises money for them and debates planned parented maniacs.

01:00:23.000 And so that you might say, well, Charlie, you're contradicting yourself.

01:00:26.000 I'm actually not.

01:00:27.000 I'm saying what I believe.

01:00:29.000 I want to get to a place where abortion is illegal in all 50 states and every life is protected.

01:00:35.000 Okay?

01:00:36.000 And I also know that I believe it's the modern-day moral equivalent of slavery.

01:00:42.000 And decoupling from slavery was very difficult.

01:00:46.000 The incrementalists actually won the slavery debate over time.

01:00:51.000 So you have to win consensus, win where you can legislatively, debate, win in the culture war, have people like Candace Owens, like what we're doing at Turning Point USA, you know, go viral on the topic.

01:01:02.000 And so as long as we're moving in the right direction, I think that is okay.

01:01:08.000 So when President Trump comes out, people say, oh, he's caving on abortion.

01:01:12.000 Or is he trying to make politics, which is the art of the possible, be in political power and understand that, look, we do not live in a pro-life country.

01:01:12.000 Is he?

01:01:23.000 You can hope we live in a pro-life country.

01:01:24.000 We just don't.

01:01:25.000 The fact of the matter is the majority of the country, especially suburban housewives, they want abortion on demand in case their 16-year-old daughter, who's sleeping around too much, gets knocked up and they don't want to have that kid around.

01:01:37.000 That's not a speculation.

01:01:38.000 It's a fact, okay?

01:01:40.000 The driving force for abortion politics are suburban housewives that want abortion as a last measure to preserve their daughter to be able to go to college. 1.00

01:01:49.000 Okay?

01:01:50.000 We have to win those people over eventually while understanding that there is a variety of issues that we will have 0% say in if we do not win a presidential election, right?

01:02:04.000 If we do not win a presidential election, and here's another part.

01:02:07.000 I could tell you, in certain states, when it is only about abortion, we get nothing when it comes to about abortion because we lose.

01:02:15.000 So, you know, people are going after Trump.

01:02:17.000 By the way, he put people on the Supreme Court that reversed Roe versus Wade.

01:02:21.000 George W. Bush didn't do that.

01:02:23.000 George H.W. Bush didn't do that.

01:02:26.000 And so that's a very complicated answer.

01:02:29.000 I hope it made sense.

01:02:30.000 But all those things can be simultaneously true.

01:02:33.000 While we're not wavering on the moral clarity of what it is, which is a genocide and a slavery of our time.

01:02:40.000 And we must never waver on the moral importance and prerogative of that.

01:02:46.000 Hi, Dorne, Charlie.

01:02:48.000 God bless you, man.

01:02:48.000 I'm Rob.

01:02:49.000 I go to a church here at Miami Beach.

01:02:51.000 I found out about this event through an Instagram post.

01:02:55.000 And coincidentally, I know this brother.

01:02:57.000 He's a man of God, so praise God for that.

01:03:01.000 And so the timing of this meeting could not be more perfect.

01:03:05.000 My church just had a meeting with all the leaders, and he wanted to talk about the whole issue with trans and LGBTQ and all that stuff. 0.97

01:03:13.000 And he said, in this church, we will not allow people to practice what they do here in the church.

01:03:20.000 In other words, if a man comes as a woman, dressed as a woman, that person will go to the men's bathroom. 0.98

01:03:26.000 If they want to go to the woman's bathroom, we will escort them out. 1.00

01:03:29.000 And with love, if they want to sit and hear the sermon, praise God, we believe God could change them. 1.00

01:03:35.000 Okay? 0.97

01:03:36.000 Now, I believe many churches have become trans themselves, transparent. 0.99

01:03:43.000 Because they avoid talking about this. 0.99

01:03:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:03:47.000 How can we make the churches, you know, talk about this situation?

01:03:51.000 We have to let them know that this is a sin.

01:03:53.000 It's wrong.

01:03:54.000 Well, yeah, it's more than a sin.

01:03:55.000 It's actually called an abomination by God in Deuteronomy. 0.99

01:03:59.000 If a man shall dress as a woman, it is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

01:04:04.000 So here I am at a church service, right? 0.98

01:04:06.000 I pull out my Bible, which, you know, many pastors don't read in America.

01:04:11.000 And it's just true, especially Andy Stanley.

01:04:13.000 And I say, well, we should talk about that.

01:04:16.000 What he did recently is so sick.

01:04:18.000 He will be judged for what he did.

01:04:20.000 And I say, I think it's Deuteronomy 20 or something. 0.73

01:04:23.000 And it says that if a man shall dress as a woman or in woman's garments, that is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. 0.98

01:04:32.000 And he shall be. 0.91

01:04:33.000 Beggity shot. 0.56

01:04:34.000 Beggity shot. 1.00

01:04:36.000 A man cannot wear a female garment, right? 1.00

01:04:39.000 Because, and there's plenty of explanations. 0.99

01:04:41.000 God wants the separation. 1.00

01:04:42.000 He doesn't want a man masquerading as a woman. 0.99

01:04:44.000 And so what happens is the media says Charlie thinks that trans people are an abomination to God. 0.95

01:04:51.000 I was like, no, no, no. 0.96

01:04:52.000 God thinks they're an abomination to himself.

01:04:55.000 I'm just the messenger.

01:04:56.000 Doesn't matter what I think.

01:04:58.000 I'm just reading the scripture.

01:05:00.000 So look, we need to be way more morally clear on the trans thing.

01:05:04.000 I'm called a radical on the issue.

01:05:06.000 Radical means to the root.

01:05:07.000 I am a radical, okay?

01:05:09.000 I refuse to acknowledge somebody's mental disease because you dress. 0.93

01:05:14.000 I don't care what you think you are. 0.54

01:05:17.000 And I'll give you a great example that really blows the minds.

01:05:20.000 And I actually got it from Candace Owens.

01:05:22.000 So Candace Owens had a schizophrenic stalker who believed that he was married to Candace Owens.

01:05:33.000 Why is he wrong?

01:05:36.000 It's his truth, right?

01:05:38.000 He believes that he's married to her.

01:05:40.000 Don't we honor people's truth?

01:05:42.000 He feels it.

01:05:44.000 He knows it.

01:05:45.000 It's who he is.

01:05:47.000 How is that any different than a man who thinks and believes that he's a woman?

01:05:53.000 No, reality must triumph over somebody's mental delusion, which is exactly what this is.

01:05:59.000 This is a crisis of a delusion that has infected our entire society.

01:06:04.000 Look, God created man and female, period. 0.96

01:06:08.000 And God, God created order and separation for a reason, and the church must be clearly speaking.

01:06:13.000 So, what did Andy Stanley do?

01:06:15.000 Andy Stanley had a conference where he said we must have LGBTQ plus. 0.68

01:06:19.000 He used their language. 0.87

01:06:20.000 Can you believe it? 0.95

01:06:21.000 The LGTQ.

01:06:23.000 He had two people that claimed they're not married.

01:06:26.000 Okay, let me be very clear.

01:06:27.000 They say they're married.

01:06:28.000 They're apostates.

01:06:29.000 But they say they're married, which is not a thing. 0.97

01:06:31.000 You can't be married to a man. 0.99

01:06:32.000 You can't be married to a woman if you're a woman. 1.00

01:06:34.000 It's not possible. 1.00

01:06:35.000 You might be lusting.

01:06:36.000 You might be having sex with that person, but it's not marriage. 0.98

01:06:38.000 You can appropriate it all you want. 0.59

01:06:40.000 I'm a stickler for words, okay? 0.79

01:06:41.000 Marriage is the attraction of opposites to create a whole, okay?

01:06:45.000 You know why it's so important?

01:06:47.000 If you don't stand for marriage, that means you don't believe in the relationship between Christ and his church.

01:06:52.000 Think about that.

01:06:53.000 Marriage is the same thing as Christ with his bride.

01:06:55.000 Okay, so Andy Stanley has two of these men speak at his conference at a church. 1.00

01:07:01.000 Open homosexuals saying that we need to do a better job as a church or else we're going to lose attendance. 0.99

01:07:08.000 Look, first of all, he's wrong, but honestly, I'll be happy to lose attendance as long as we're speaking the truth. 0.66

01:07:14.000 I don't care.

01:07:15.000 Yes, next question.

01:07:19.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:07:20.000 How are you?

01:07:20.000 My name is Jorge Galicia.

01:07:22.000 I am from Venezuela.

01:07:23.000 I came to this beautiful nation four years ago, and I'm actually right now the TPUSA field rep for South Florida.

01:07:30.000 And thank you.

01:07:34.000 Actually, if you're in college and you want to start a chapter, reach out to me.

01:07:37.000 But my question is basically about Iran.

01:07:41.000 What should we do about Iran? 0.99

01:07:43.000 I know we have really good reasons to believe that they were the ones behind the recent attack that we saw in Israel. 1.00

01:07:50.000 Iran is all over Venezuela. 0.94

01:07:51.000 They basically kidnapped one of the kidnappers of our nation, and they're all over our Western hemisphere. 0.99

01:07:58.000 How do we deal with that?

01:08:00.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

01:08:01.000 So I actually find myself for once in a position of moderation, which is actually fun because usually I'm like on the extremes of things.

01:08:10.000 I'll be honest, I don't trust the national security apparatus in D.C. I'm an outspoken critic of sending aid to Ukraine.

01:08:17.000 I think we should find peace in this war of Ukraine and Russia.

01:08:21.000 It's not America's responsibility, especially as our own border remains completely and totally wide open.

01:08:28.000 And you heard my passion.

01:08:30.000 Somebody asked me today, they said, Charlie, what should America do for Israel?

01:08:33.000 Let Israel defend itself.

01:08:35.000 They can handle this one.

01:08:36.000 They got it.

01:08:37.000 You know what we can do?

01:08:38.000 Stand up for them at the UN and create media cover.

01:08:42.000 Israel has this plenty.

01:08:44.000 It's not going to be a military issue.

01:08:47.000 I think we should also be very skeptical of some of the hawks that got us into no-win war situations in Afghanistan that might be trying to drag us into another no-win war in the Middle East. 0.73

01:08:58.000 I think both can be simultaneously true.

01:09:00.000 That's where I find myself in kind of like a position of moderation. 0.89

01:09:03.000 I think sanctions back on Iran makes sense.

01:09:05.000 Having the traitor Joe Biden kicked out of the White House and freeze the $6 billion in assets that were sent into Iran, which is pathologically insane, would be one thing.

01:09:17.000 And honestly, you want to really stick it to Iran?

01:09:20.000 Do everything you can to preserve the Israeli-Saudi Arabian peace deal that just got interrupted. 0.95

01:09:25.000 That would really stick it to Iran. 0.99

01:09:27.000 Blessed are the peacemakers, right? 0.83

01:09:29.000 So let Israel be Israel and then have America come in and say, okay, let's make that Israel-Saudi Arabian deal happen. 0.73

01:09:39.000 Here's my personal calculation, okay? 0.63

01:09:41.000 Just going to be honest with you, I find it very, very hard to believe that Netanyahu was not double-crossed here, okay?

01:09:49.000 I've been to the Gaza Strip.

01:09:51.000 I've been to that border wall.

01:09:53.000 You go to coffee, there's like six IDF guys with machine guns, okay?

01:09:57.000 Took six hours to mobilize a response.

01:10:00.000 The whole thing is very, very weird, very suspicious, okay?

01:10:03.000 I'm not saying that the government knew about it.

01:10:05.000 I'm saying that the government probably was double-crossed by people within the Israeli government that gave them bad information.

01:10:12.000 And Mossad screwed this up so royally.

01:10:14.000 I was talking to a guy high up in IDF, and I'm not the only one with that belief, okay? 0.87

01:10:19.000 But I think, why would Iran do Iran?

01:10:22.000 I was watching CNN before this because I hate myself. 0.59

01:10:25.000 And I was watching CNN.

01:10:28.000 I felt like throwing a rock. 1.00

01:10:29.000 I felt like an Arab where they just, you know, they do nothing but destroy. 0.73

01:10:36.000 Biden administration, colon, no evidence of Iran behind the Hamas attack. 0.87

01:10:40.000 I'm like, really? 0.91

01:10:42.000 I'm supposed to believe this crap that Iran was not involved in the training and the planning of an 800-person invasion of Israel. 0.96

01:10:50.000 Oh, no, we, Iran, have nothing to do with it. 0.98

01:10:54.000 I don't believe that for a second.

01:10:55.000 And so the response should be very simple. 0.95

01:11:00.000 Let Israel do what Israel does, which is unfortunately going to be not unfortunately, but it is what it is. 0.98

01:11:05.000 It's just life. 0.99

01:11:06.000 A lot of people are going to die, and it will send a message for the next 200 years.

01:11:09.000 It's like the ultimate FAFO type situation.

01:11:12.000 And if you know what that means, you know what it means.

01:11:15.000 And yeah, everyone's whispering to their husband, what does that mean exactly?

01:11:19.000 It's not church appropriate.

01:11:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:11:22.000 Yeah, it's church.

01:11:25.000 And then try to make the peace deal happen. 0.97

01:11:29.000 That would be a blow to Iran. 0.90

01:11:30.000 And honestly, there's one really simple solution. 0.90

01:11:33.000 We got to get a new president.

01:11:35.000 This is unsustainable.

01:11:38.000 We are playing with fire here, folks.

01:11:41.000 We got a border invasion. 1.00

01:11:42.000 We got this stupid thing with Russia and Ukraine. 1.00

01:11:44.000 Only by God's grace are we not going to be in a world war very soon. 1.00

01:11:48.000 And I'm not exaggerating.

01:11:49.000 I don't do hyperbole.

01:11:51.000 We are at like the razor's edge of us being in an irreversible conflict with China or with Russia.

01:11:59.000 Boy, I hope God gives us grace and we get a new president because we need it.

01:12:04.000 Trump would solve this thing in an afternoon and then finish his McDonald's burger.

01:12:11.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:12:13.000 So I met you two years ago, a really long time, and I'm homeschooled.

01:12:20.000 My name is Natalia Subay.

01:12:22.000 And I wanted to ask you, what is your message to us kids?

01:12:29.000 Well, first of all, thank you for being here.

01:12:31.000 That's not easy to do, so give it up for her.

01:12:33.000 That's really great.

01:12:35.000 So, first of all, I love Moms for Liberty.

01:12:38.000 They do a great job.

01:12:39.000 Look, you're going to have to grow up quicker.

01:12:44.000 And that's a sad reality.

01:12:48.000 I'm a big believer in letting kids have a childhood.

01:12:51.000 The left doesn't believe in that, right?

01:12:54.000 They're full of contradictions.

01:12:55.000 But yeah, they want to do strip shows in front of eight-year-olds, right? 0.94

01:12:58.000 This drag queen stuff, which is just so unbelievable.

01:13:01.000 But here's the reality: we live in very troubling times. 0.99

01:13:05.000 I don't come with hopium, guys, which is hope and opium.

01:13:07.000 You mix it together, it feels good, but it's really bad for you.

01:13:11.000 This is a really dark time.

01:13:13.000 I'm just going to be honest, right?

01:13:14.000 You must remain happy and joyful, but I got nothing but bad news, to be honest.

01:13:19.000 It's really bad.

01:13:21.000 And so, what does that mean for kids?

01:13:23.000 You must be joyful in the Lord, but you have to fight.

01:13:27.000 And we need people of every age.

01:13:29.000 Start turning point groups.

01:13:30.000 Convince your friends.

01:13:31.000 Get involved in politics.

01:13:33.000 And this is going to take a multi-generational mobilization.

01:13:37.000 That's exactly what Turning Point USA is doing.

01:13:39.000 I believe we can win, and I believe we can get it better.

01:13:43.000 But, you know, I'll say that I don't mean to scare you before you go home.

01:13:47.000 This is the most troubled I've ever felt about my country.

01:13:50.000 And I thought I felt troubling during Obama.

01:13:53.000 I mean, and I do this for a living.

01:13:55.000 And this is really, really sick.

01:13:59.000 But guess what?

01:14:00.000 We can make it better.

01:14:01.000 You're what, 11 years old?

01:14:03.000 You can live in a better country, and I want you to.

01:14:05.000 That's why I do what I do.

01:14:07.000 And I do not believe that we have to just let this place fall apart.

01:14:12.000 Salt and light change the environments that you come in contact with.

01:14:16.000 Next question.

01:14:16.000 That's right.

01:14:17.000 Yeah.

01:14:17.000 Do you mind if I please tell you?

01:14:19.000 I'm sorry.

01:14:19.000 Yeah.

01:14:20.000 Yeah.

01:14:20.000 Who is that sweet girl?

01:14:23.000 How awesome that God hears your prayers.

01:14:28.000 And He's always with you.

01:14:31.000 And you never have to fear because He's greater and stronger than all these things.

01:14:37.000 These troubles have always been here.

01:14:39.000 They intensify at certain times, then they go away, they're less visible.

01:14:43.000 But the trouble is in the heart of man.

01:14:45.000 But God has won the battle.

01:14:47.000 So He hears your prayers.

01:14:56.000 It's way more beautiful when it comes from other people than rather the parents.

01:15:00.000 It's always they hear the parents.

01:15:03.000 But thank you so much for the words for my daughter.

01:15:07.000 This is my two young ones.

01:15:11.000 I came from Colombia legally 13 years ago.

01:15:15.000 I have four children.

01:15:17.000 My oldest one is this is the fifth year she's president of Turning Point Chapter.

01:15:26.000 And even my children came with me when you are not so far here in Palm Beach.

01:15:33.000 They love you.

01:15:34.000 They support you.

01:15:36.000 And I think if this is the example that we have to do to our children, show that it's not only moms that they are telling the truth, but we are the big majority. 0.74

01:15:49.000 And this is the great thing because here the LGBTQ is less than 5% of the population. 0.92

01:15:55.000 But here they talk about democracy. 1.00

01:16:00.000 What is democracy?

01:16:01.000 It's half plus one.

01:16:04.000 We are the majority.

01:16:06.000 So we decide what we want.

01:16:08.000 And talking about that elections, I am from Moms for Liberty, the national director.

01:16:16.000 And here are my other Moms for Liberty from Brower. 0.97

01:16:24.000 And we are taking seriously this, not only with our own children that I homeschool, and there is no other solution, immediately, solution for our kids right now.

01:16:36.000 But I think it's a duty for moms and dads to realize that they are being educated by the enemy in public school.

01:16:48.000 So I have two little questions.

01:16:49.000 One, if this is very personal.

01:16:53.000 I think when this globalization starts, I don't know, 50 years ago, I don't realize exactly when they start, but they start taking the woman out of the house and God out of the schools.

01:17:10.000 So actually, schools are good, or we just return to that time where children are being educated at home, because I find it's a little overwhelming homeschooling, but it's beautiful.

01:17:26.000 And my relationship even with my children.

01:17:28.000 I'm sorry, can you just get to the question?

01:17:30.000 Because we're running really short on time.

01:17:31.000 So do you think schools are the solution or to return to the time?

01:17:38.000 I'm a big fan of homeschooling, big time.

01:17:40.000 And I think...

01:17:42.000 Let me isolate one thing you said, though.

01:17:45.000 If you were to guess what is the most loyal liberal demographic in America, you might say black voters.

01:17:51.000 Nope. 0.90

01:17:52.000 Not even female black voters. 0.99

01:17:54.000 You know what the most loyal Democrat group in America is?

01:17:57.000 College-educated women who are single and live in urban areas and earn more than $100,000 a year. 1.00

01:18:08.000 We live in the tyranny of unhappy feminist college grads. 1.00

01:18:15.000 And this is a real problem because their biggest anxiety is not going to get solved.

01:18:22.000 And they're very, because they want kids and their windows closing, right?

01:18:25.000 They're 32, 33, 34.

01:18:27.000 They got a couple years left.

01:18:29.000 And if they don't find a man, which they probably, many of them probably won't, they're going to become out of control.

01:18:36.000 And they want abortion on demand. 1.00

01:18:38.000 They want free sex. 0.80

01:18:39.000 They do not want commitment.

01:18:41.000 And I know I'm generalizing, but you know, we have more single 30-somethings than married 30-somethings for the first time in the history of the species. 0.90

01:18:51.000 This is a nuclear bomb for society.

01:18:54.000 And you can't blame these young ladies, right?

01:18:56.000 They did everything they were told.

01:18:57.000 Go get the piece of paper.

01:18:58.000 Go become a partner at Deloitte.

01:19:00.000 Go to the law firm.

01:19:02.000 Go get the apartment in downtown Miami or go get the apartment in Atlanta.

01:19:06.000 Just have birth control.

01:19:07.000 Sex is nothing more than just a physical contact.

01:19:10.000 It's not about emotional binding and all that.

01:19:12.000 And they end up 33 years old with cats.

01:19:15.000 And am I right?

01:19:22.000 Thank you.

01:19:24.000 That's my church.

01:19:28.000 I just got redeemed.

01:19:29.000 You have no idea.

01:19:31.000 Go ahead.

01:19:34.000 And we wonder why they're so resentful.

01:19:39.000 And it's half their fault, half not their fault.

01:19:42.000 And when you talk to them, and they'll never admit it publicly.

01:19:45.000 But they want a man. 0.73

01:19:47.000 They want what God designed them for.

01:19:50.000 And the left took them out of it.

01:19:52.000 Gloria Steinman, who wrote The Feminine Mystique, wrote The Feminine Mystique, one that took women out of the home and said they're oppressed, they're all this. 0.98

01:20:01.000 If you actually talk to women in the 1960s, they were really happy.

01:20:04.000 This is a small portion of women that were just kind of, they had mental problems, honestly. 0.80

01:20:10.000 And they weaponized that and they turned now women as the expectation. 0.75

01:20:14.000 And I tell this to young ladies all the time.

01:20:16.000 The media comes after me all the time.

01:20:17.000 They say, you know, why do you tell young ladies to get married young?

01:20:19.000 It's like, because once they get to be 32, they're not that attractive to most men.

01:20:22.000 I'm sorry.

01:20:23.000 It's just true.

01:20:24.000 And you could laugh all you want, but like, men get better with age. 1.00

01:20:28.000 Young women don't. 1.00

01:20:29.000 And, you know, women get really angry with me when I say that. 1.00

01:20:32.000 Except for my wife. 0.55

01:20:33.000 No, it's fine, but you don't become, I'm sorry, when you're 33 years old and your counterparts are 33, they're going to want to marry the 22-year-old.

01:20:44.000 And there is something that all the good ones are gone.

01:20:49.000 And they're like, well, you know, I'm a partner at a law firm and I have all this stuff and I have all this.

01:20:54.000 All right, well, you know, go travel the world, but you're not going to have kids.

01:20:58.000 And that's really sad.

01:20:59.000 And I feel for these young women.

01:21:00.000 People think I'm being cruel and awful, but they bought into the modern lie to put their career first and to wall themselves off from seriously dating in their early 20s.

01:21:11.000 And secondly, free sex, I know there's a lot of kids here, but sex impacts young ladies much differently than young men. 0.91

01:21:20.000 Okay? 0.95

01:21:20.000 Hookup culture is bad for men for different reasons. 0.95

01:21:23.000 It is detrimental for young women. 0.92

01:21:27.000 When young women have multiple sexual partners, it literally screws with their head.

01:21:33.000 And that's not a joke.

01:21:35.000 It's actually clinically proven.

01:21:37.000 They have bonding and attachment with the male they're with.

01:21:41.000 They release pheromones where they're not designed to have 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 partners.

01:21:48.000 And they end up being 30 and they wonder why they have to spend so much time with their therapists and their antidepressants.

01:21:53.000 And I feel for them because they bought in this lie that they're just like men and they're not.

01:21:57.000 The brains are wired differently.

01:21:58.000 It's bad for men too. 0.68

01:21:59.000 It's not even good, it's not good for men, but it's much worse for young women.

01:22:02.000 And so we have a serious problem.

01:22:04.000 I want to try to have a renaissance of young ladies who want to be at home are celebrated as heroes to get married young and have children and be the guardians of society.

01:22:15.000 So we got to get to another question.

01:22:17.000 Yeah, but really quick.

01:22:18.000 My last question is: in Mas for Liberty, we love to get into action.

01:22:23.000 Now we need to get local election.

01:22:26.000 We need to get into the votes to the people.

01:22:30.000 What is exactly what we have to do when you don't trust anymore the GOP?

01:22:37.000 So let me.

01:22:38.000 How many of you are precinct committee men?

01:22:39.000 Anybody raise your hand?

01:22:40.000 This is why we lose.

01:22:41.000 Every hand should be up.

01:22:42.000 It's really simple.

01:22:43.000 You're in charge of your neighborhood.

01:22:44.000 It's a thousand voters.

01:22:45.000 That's it.

01:22:46.000 We lose because we don't organize.

01:22:48.000 We go to rallies, we buy merchandise, we complain, but we don't organize.

01:22:53.000 Every hand at every church in America should be raised that I'm a precinct committeeman.

01:22:56.000 It's not hard.

01:22:57.000 It's a thousand.

01:22:58.000 You're responsible for a thousand voters in your neighborhood.

01:23:01.000 So that's the answer.

01:23:03.000 Every single person should raise their hand to become a precinct committee woman. 1.00

01:23:06.000 God bless you.

01:23:06.000 Or man.

01:23:07.000 Thank you so much.

01:23:08.000 Yes, two more questions, then I have to go.

01:23:09.000 Yes.

01:23:10.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm 29 as well.

01:23:11.000 Happy early birthday.

01:23:13.000 You'll be 30 on Saturday.

01:23:14.000 It's a real crisis, actually.

01:23:16.000 So I'm getting too old for this stuff.

01:23:19.000 I'm going to try to make this quick.

01:23:20.000 People in my age bracket, and I guess your age bracket have a hard time keeping faith and staying positive, at least on social media and public, having Christian and conservative views.

01:23:29.000 So as a young white male, you know, when people my age find out my political and religious views, I'm scrutinized or given like a kind of like a negative label.

01:23:38.000 Even career-wise, I work a county government job.

01:23:41.000 I feel like I have to tiptoe around topics or risk getting kind of unfairly screwed, reprimanded.

01:23:47.000 So what kind of advice would you have for people in that situation?

01:23:50.000 You work for the government?

01:23:51.000 I work, I'm a Miami-Aid firefighter.

01:23:53.000 Yeah.

01:23:54.000 Look, it's tough at work.

01:23:56.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:23:58.000 If you are a white male and you, for example, come out against BLM, they could report you for harassment.

01:24:04.000 And not only could you get fired, you could get sued because they're like, oh, he's racist.

01:24:08.000 It's a real problem.

01:24:10.000 And I don't have good advice for that, honestly.

01:24:12.000 Here's my heart for you: to find a career or find a job where you can be the same person in public that you are in private.

01:24:20.000 And that job is waiting for you out there.

01:24:21.000 There are great employers and there are great entrepreneurs that would love to hire somebody that can be where you could be who you are in all scenarios.

01:24:31.000 And so I wish I had better advice, but honestly, here's what I will say: pray on this.

01:24:36.000 If you have to pretend to be somebody you're not, that's a form of torment and torture.

01:24:41.000 Try to get out of that as quickly as possible.

01:24:44.000 It will impact your marriage.

01:24:45.000 I don't know if you're married or not, or your future relationships, or your kids.

01:24:49.000 So try to find yourself in a place where you don't have to put on a costume when you go to work.

01:24:55.000 That's not good for anybody.

01:24:57.000 Thank you.

01:24:58.000 This will be the final question.

01:25:00.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:25:02.000 I'm 15 years old.

01:25:04.000 My parents are Ukrainian Jews, and I'm currently a college student in America, but definitely like the opposite of what you've described us as.

01:25:12.000 So my question is: Biden gave $6 billion to Iran, which was later given to Iran by Iran to Hamas to help fund this war.

01:25:20.000 Then Biden's Office of Palestinian Affairs posted a tweet, which they later deleted, asking Israel to maintain peace and stand down without fighting back.

01:25:29.000 And yet, why do you still think that 77% of American Jews still continue to support the Democrat Party? 0.69

01:25:35.000 What is the reasoning for that when they continually, time and time again, betray us? 0.92

01:25:40.000 I've heard from multiple Jewish college students who justified from the attack from Palestine and Hamas because they said that their land was taken in 1946, which is why this attack is justified from Jewish college students. 0.74

01:25:52.000 Where does all this stealth hatred stem from? 0.86

01:25:55.000 And from the same people who claim that they're religious.

01:25:58.000 I'm sure our rabbi friend deals with this every day.

01:26:04.000 I'm going to give you the mic.

01:26:05.000 Can we have the mic for the rabbi in a second?

01:26:06.000 I'm going to just say this. 0.99

01:26:07.000 From my experience, reform and moderate Judaism is the most suicidal worldview I've ever encountered. 1.00

01:26:15.000 Is that a fair statement, Rabbi? 1.00

01:26:18.000 Absolutely. 1.00

01:26:19.000 And the answer to your question is complete stupidity. 1.00

01:26:22.000 It makes absolutely no sense. 1.00

01:26:25.000 I'll tell you, I have only been voting Republican, but I'm still a registered Democrat because when I was born, God forbid, my mother would have disowned me.

01:26:38.000 You have to be a Democrat.

01:26:40.000 Now, I have not voted that way.

01:26:42.000 See, but by staying a Democrat, I get to vote for the ones who I don't want to win.

01:26:47.000 So you use it the other way.

01:26:50.000 But I must tell you, I've spoken with so many really competent rabbis in the Orthodox world.

01:26:59.000 We don't understand.

01:27:01.000 We don't understand.

01:27:03.000 Just makes no sense.

01:27:04.000 I think it's a question of wanting to be accepted.

01:27:08.000 The conservative and reform are moving so far to the left, so far away from what our traditions teach, that they want to be like the rest.

01:27:18.000 And then they're going to lose who they are.

01:27:20.000 So it's a shame.

01:27:22.000 Yeah, and that's beautifully said. 0.99

01:27:25.000 I will add to that: the less religious the Jew, the more likely they are to be in secularism. 0.96

01:27:34.000 And what's a shame is that most Jews believe in any ism except Judaism. 1.00

01:27:43.000 They are the ones that gave us Marxism. 1.00

01:27:45.000 They give us environmentalism. 1.00

01:27:47.000 They give us transgenderism.

01:27:51.000 They will fly the banner of any social cause imaginable. 0.98

01:27:56.000 Yes, scientism, that's right.

01:27:57.000 No, that's exactly correct.

01:27:59.000 And I say it's suicidal for a reason, because it absolutely is. 1.00

01:28:04.000 And what is, you know, my number one critics are Jews, right? 1.00

01:28:09.000 Vicious, right? 1.00

01:28:10.000 Secular, like ADL.

01:28:11.000 They come after me.

01:28:12.000 They want to destroy my life, right? 1.00

01:28:15.000 It doesn't stop my heart for the Jewish people because I'm not going to say they're not Jews, but they're not acting very, you know. 1.00

01:28:21.000 They're not acting like the Torah would say. 1.00

01:28:22.000 They're definitely not acting Christ-like, but they don't believe in that.

01:28:27.000 And so I see it. 1.00

01:28:29.000 And the number one pushers of globalism are secular Jews. 0.98

01:28:33.000 Do me a favor. 0.98

01:28:34.000 It's just a fact.

01:28:37.000 So I guess your question is, why do I think that is?

01:28:40.000 It's suicidal.

01:28:42.000 And honestly, it's going to be a very interesting coalition. 0.97

01:28:45.000 The only defenders of Israel left will be Torah-believing Jews and evangelical Christians. 0.70

01:28:51.000 That's it. 0.97

01:28:51.000 It's going to be the only ones left. 0.97

01:28:54.000 The very community that comes under such criticism.

01:28:57.000 I get attacked every day.

01:28:58.000 You're a Christian nationalist. 0.96

01:29:00.000 You know, these Jewish groups come after me. 1.00

01:29:02.000 It's like, yeah, okay.

01:29:03.000 I'm the one that's actually going to make sure you still have a holy land.

01:29:06.000 And they attack us viciously.

01:29:09.000 God bless you, Baro Kashem.

01:29:11.000 Thank you.

01:29:12.000 So just a couple things I want to make sure I share everybody.

01:29:14.000 First of all, thank you guys for coming on such short notice here.

01:29:17.000 That really blesses me and it was great to be able to speak to you.

01:29:21.000 I want to try to ask you guys if you would consider subscribing to our podcast by taking out your phone.

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01:29:44.000 We do three podcasts a day, three podcasts a day.

01:29:49.000 And so we would love to earn, it's my favorite word in the English language, earn an opportunity to be your daily news source, always from a biblical worldview.

01:29:58.000 I'll close with this.

01:29:59.000 And by the way, thank you for hosting us.

01:30:00.000 Just amazing.

01:30:01.000 And Rabbi, it's terrific.

01:30:03.000 In the book of Deuteronomy, it tells us something very clearly that you found the right page.

01:30:14.000 That to, if you guys could keep that up, that'd be great.

01:30:16.000 Thank you.

01:30:17.000 To despair is to sin.

01:30:20.000 It's a big teaching when you think about it.

01:30:23.000 We must actively know that if we are despairing, we are rebelling against God.

01:30:28.000 Every day we must be thinking and praying, God, use me.

01:30:33.000 Our prayer should not be, God, save this for me.

01:30:37.000 God, use me as a vessel for salt and light.

01:30:41.000 Use me as a vessel to fight for goodness.

01:30:45.000 We must have a prayer that we must be active in the fight for God's plan.

01:30:51.000 I have no idea how this is going to end up, but there has never been a nation like America in the history of the world.

01:30:57.000 For those of you that are from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, you know of what I speak.

01:31:01.000 And guess what?

01:31:02.000 As someone who is, I don't know, 11th generation American, 16, 20, my family came over.

01:31:09.000 For those of you that are first or second generation American, I'm asking you, I'm telling you, we need you because us, many generation Americans, are not fighting because we don't know.

01:31:18.000 I know, but the people around me, they say, oh, how bad can it get?

01:31:22.000 We need the Venezuelans and the Cubans to wake us up and to fight for liberty against Marxism.

01:31:28.000 We need you so badly right now because our country is falling apart and this is a spiritual war.

01:31:34.000 Do not despair.

01:31:35.000 If you love God, you must hate evil.

01:31:39.000 The victory is ultimately God's and Jesus Christ.

01:31:42.000 We must pray that He uses us in the meantime.

01:31:44.000 God bless you guys.

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01:31:47.000 Round of applause for Charlie Kirk.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 15, 2023

The Left’s America: No Border, No Dollar, No God — LIVE at Harvest Church Miami

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