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00:02:00.000I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, but still a great attachment to the city, and it's completely changed.
00:02:05.000So obviously, I got to ask you about this early, this Trump indictment thing.
00:02:09.000Now, even if you're blue as can be or purple or green, you have piles and piles of things with Biden, Biden's kid, and you're going after Trump with Stormy Daniels.
00:02:20.000Yeah, I mean, it's an unbelievably weak case, and we have yet to see kind of how it's going to play out.
00:02:25.000You know, as of we're talking right now, Trump is set to be arraigned in the next couple hours.
00:02:30.000So we're still talking a little, you know, speculatively.
00:02:32.000But no, this is an absolute outrage to the Constitution, to precedent.
00:02:36.000And the true crime that Donald Trump committed was winning the 2016 election.
00:02:41.000They had a party and a celebration planned at the Kravitz Center right there in New York, and he robbed them of that night.
00:02:48.000And, you know, there's a lot of psychological literature I think that could be instructive here because when you go through a traumatic event, it then defines you.
00:02:55.000And if you don't go through the healing process of a traumatic event, you can end up a very broken and bitter person seeking revenge at all times.
00:03:03.000And we've probably been around people like that a lot.
00:03:06.000There's kind of an archetype of kind of the scorned woman.
00:04:00.000They had this glass ceiling that was going to break.
00:04:03.000I don't think we understand how humiliating that was.
00:04:06.000And by the way, we played into it for good reason.
00:04:09.000The memes, the videos, I mean, we didn't just stick the knife in.
00:04:12.000We just and it was one of the great delights ever in American politics, right?
00:04:17.000Here you have this unbelievably craven, corrupt woman who should not be president, who's married to someone who's close with Epstein and has done other really nasty and awful bimbo squad, all that stuff, right?
00:04:31.000Yeah, everyone commits suicide in their orbit.
00:04:34.000And she was supposed to be president, and they did not take Trump seriously at all.
00:04:39.000She didn't campaign, and it happened like that.
00:04:42.000And so this indictment, I think, hinges on the lack of healing of a very broken people from a traumatic event in 2016.
00:04:50.000There's other elements too, obviously.
00:04:51.000But I don't think we should forget that.
00:04:53.000That makes a lot of sense with the trauma.
00:06:04.000There's plenty of counter arguments to that.
00:06:06.000And I think they're trying to take the player off the chessboard before votes are ever counted and/or administered.
00:06:12.000Now, obviously, he's going to take it to trial.
00:06:14.000Let's say he wins, which I think he should win, but of course it's in New York.
00:06:18.000They have so much money and so much power.
00:06:21.000And then even when it goes to 2024, and but you know, he runs blah, blah, blah, even if he wins fair by the numbers, how is it going to be fair?
00:06:32.000They have so much money, so much power.
00:06:35.000And so, but despite that, it goes to show they're still worried that there's a sliver of a chance that Donald Trump could become president again.
00:06:43.000And so here's the operating hypothesis that I have: the presidency comes down to three states.
00:06:48.000So every 10 years, you reorganize the census.
00:06:51.000And because of that, the electoral map can change a little bit.
00:06:55.000For example, Florida gains electoral votes, Texas, California, New York, New York decrease.
00:07:00.000So the map is actually a little bit different than it was in 2020.
00:07:04.000So you no longer need to kind of win the 271 plus a seat in Omaha, Nebraska, Or Maine, you can get to 270 electoral votes as a Republican by winning all the regular Republican states, plus Florida, which whoever the nominee is will win, plus Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa.
00:07:22.000So those four, I think, are pretty solid.
00:07:24.000And then all you have to do, and it's not all, but is win Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona.
00:07:29.000Those three states can and should go for the Republican nominee in 2024.
00:07:35.000So they're very worried, and they should be.
00:07:43.000But if we have a banking collapse or a currency collapse, and if Republicans get smart about legal ballot chasing and I think ethical early voting, which we can talk about, I think that there's some room for improvement there, especially my home state of Arizona, where Carrie Lake should be governor, and they completely railroaded her and obliterated her campaign through a sabotage campaign from the Maricopa County Recorder's Office, amongst other things.
00:08:09.000What's happening in New York at the indictment of Trump is, yes, scorned trauma, but also pure 2024 politics.
00:08:16.000That they want to try to reduce any sort of probability that this man might become president.
00:10:07.000Now, the federal crime and the felony thing, they're running out of time on that where just a regular federal trial with someone that has money, they can string it out for a couple of years.
00:10:33.000Obama, Jarrett, Soros, all these people, but there is a conductor behind this.
00:10:39.000And so Alvin Bragg, who kind of fires the first shot, it was done so intentionally, in my personal opinion, to start a legal strategy, a lawfare strategy to obliterate the political chances of Donald Trump into 2024.
00:13:53.000We have Turning Point Academy, Turning Point High School, Turning Point College, our big events, which you might see pictures from of thousands and thousands of students that attend.
00:14:01.000We have one coming up in Palm Beach in July.
00:14:06.000So look, our philosophy at Turning Point USA is we believe Western civilization is the greatest project in self-government, specifically America and the American Constitution and the promise of the American founding.
00:14:17.000We believe we've largely lost our way because we no longer teach our kids what it means to be an American.
00:14:23.000We want to live in a free society, but at Turning Point USA, we're very aggressive in the way we go about doing it.
00:14:29.000We're long-term thinkers with hyper-urgent immediate action.
00:14:32.000And so we have more high school chapters and college chapters.
00:14:36.000We're about to hit our thousandth high school chapter, which is an amazing accomplishment.
00:14:40.000We have hundreds of people on our full-time staff.
00:14:42.000I personally visit more college campuses than almost anybody else.
00:14:45.000Maybe Shapiro might have more than me because he's been doing it.
00:14:48.000You know, he's 10 years older than I am.
00:14:50.000But I visited well over 135 and spoke all across the country.
00:14:54.000I have a really good pulse on what is being taught and not being taught in the next generation.
00:14:59.000And everybody kind of has their place in the movement where they want to make the biggest impact.
00:15:05.000My place is to try to make sure that this next generation understands the values we care about of a strong America, of a constitutional republic, of dialogue, of separation of powers, of why do borders matter.
00:15:17.000And then we get even to more fundamental questions of what is truth.
00:15:20.000You know, this trans stuff has just is a social contagion destroying the next generation.
00:15:25.000So we're kind of on the leading edge of that.
00:16:03.000Her project is now back part of Turning Point USA and God bless America.
00:16:08.000God bless Candace Owens for what she's done for America.
00:16:11.000So yeah, look, what I'll say is this: it's a multi-dimensional fight.
00:16:16.000The curriculum is part of it, but our biggest focus is on the students themselves.
00:16:20.000We understand the institutions are not going to be saved easily.
00:16:23.000And so I'm less focused on trying to save the institution and more focused on trying to save the heart, mind, and soul of your kid and grandkid.
00:16:32.000When did you notice the whole woke thing, which then turned into the BGLQA, however many letters they have now?
00:16:38.000If you haven't heard Brandon Mom, you got to have Brandon Tatum.
00:18:09.000They actually make some things and some claims on society that are interesting if you have a fully developed philosophical and cogent worldview.
00:18:16.000It is absolute ideological arsenic if you feed this to young people without a classical base that understands how to think and process the world.
00:18:25.000And so the woke stuff, you know, I get asked all the time, Charlie, how do you define woke?
00:18:29.000Because that was trending on Twitter a couple weeks ago.
00:19:01.000Because the claim that the alphabet mafia makes is when I go to these college campuses, I always say, if you disagree, you can go to the front of the line.
00:19:09.000We can have dialogue and discourse and disagreement.
00:19:13.000And I'll say, so the claim they'll always make is, Charlie, how does a man in his own living room, in his own private quarters, who wears a dress impact you?
00:19:21.000And I say, other than a total affront on truth, it really doesn't impact me.
00:19:30.000The issue is that that man who wears a dress wants me to reaccommodate and reconfigure all of society when he's not in his private quarters, but when he's in public.
00:20:32.000And this is exactly why Gramsci in his letters from prison, written in the 1920s, early 1930s, came up with the term cultural Marxism, which Marcuse took and then brought it to America, which was the traditional Marxist dialectic.
00:20:47.000So it's coming from Hegel, Marx and Engels, they weren't wrong with a lot of what they wrote.
00:20:52.000It's garbage implemented, but effectively they were making a broader critique of capitalist industrial society, saying that if you forget labor completely, you're going to have an unsustainable civilization.
00:21:05.000You can see a foundation to what they were saying then.
00:21:10.000But then they went, I mean, that's like chapter one.
00:21:12.000And then chapter two, three, four, five, six gets into total garbage, right?
00:21:15.000But the fundamental Marxist critique is: hey, you know, the bourgeoisie, right, if they are left unchecked, will not make a good world for the proletariat.
00:22:22.000Because when the Marxists at Occupy Wall Street were saying, close down the banks and all this, I was actually sympathetic.
00:22:27.000I think a lot of those fraudsters should be in jail.
00:22:29.000But then they kept on talking and they're like, get rid of all private property.
00:22:32.000And like, okay, actually, most middle-class workers enjoy the fact that they can get wealthier and they want to try to get to a nicer life.
00:22:59.000And then, of course, since we're actually a rather decent country, there's a supply and demand problem for scumbag white people in part of society.
00:23:42.000They should have picked a big, better puppet.
00:23:44.000Oh, I mean, Christine Balza Ford and Michael Avenatti and Julie Swetnick, and you've got all these people that are just flat out lying about Kavanaugh, right?
00:24:28.000Lockdown, the society never should have done it.
00:24:30.000George Floyd occurs, and the entire society loses its mind.
00:24:34.000A new religion basically gets implemented, the religion of anti-racism, and largely driven by anxious, secular, miserable upper-middle-class wine moms that do not have a grounded.
00:25:46.000But the entire movement is driven by hyper-educated white liberals that do not know how to cope with being called a racist all the time.
00:25:57.000And so through almost a quasi-pagan religious exercise, they go through the BLM kind of the BLM movement and the BLM actions of, okay, you have original sin.
00:26:11.000They took this from Christianity, by the way.
00:26:13.000You have original sin because you're white, and you must pay a tithe because you're white, and you must relentlessly apologize because you're white.
00:26:20.000And the consequence of this is you have basically a race movement against white people that is being financed and mainly driven by white people.
00:26:51.000I encourage people to do they mix somehow together.
00:26:56.000Actually at odds with one another, but they're happy partners in destroying the West because they both the at the at the core of the Blm movement is that you have an identity that matters, that you can't change, and that's race.
00:27:11.000At the core of the Trans movement is, you have an identity that you can change right, and that does matter.
00:27:16.000So that has never been actually hashed out or reconciled, but they're partners, and they're partners because and this is called uh, intersectionality.
00:27:25.000It's a term that is used a lot by Marxist revolutionaries.
00:27:28.000It's exactly how the Islamists are able to be partners with the Marxists.
00:27:33.000And Elon Omar, who's a devout Muslim, who's arguing for gay stuff in the Congress, even though the Islamic world is far harsher towards the homosexuals?
00:27:44.000Remember they used to hang people, they still do.
00:27:48.000Or Akadi Majah used to say, in Iran, we do not have gay people in Iran like, not exactly welcome an opening and they don't because they throw them off the building.
00:27:57.000But intersectionality the best way I could describe intersex, intersectionality is, the enemy is so we hate the enemy so much.
00:28:05.000We're willing to be partners with people we might disagree with, to destroy the enemy, but the.
00:28:09.000The one thing that does unify the Trans movement and the Blm movement is tribalism and that is part to that part of that one-dimensional man.
00:28:18.000He wrote in the book One Dimensional Man, Herb Markuza, which is in this postmodern, post-structuralist world, that what matters is your group.
00:28:26.000The West was built an idea on, an idea that your group does not matter, that you as an individual are made in the image of God.
00:28:33.000You're in the made the image of the divine.
00:28:35.000You have a soul, you have agency, you have action, you are accountable for you.
00:28:49.000Accountability matters from the community.
00:28:51.000We're still going to have elements of that, but it's you that are going to have to be accountable if you murder somebody or you steal something.
00:28:59.000In tribal, postmodern politics they don't believe that.
00:29:03.000They believe that the white person must be accountable for all other white people.
00:29:08.000And the reason why the West has worked, the reason why we have all this wealth and all this prosperity and why we're the envy of the world there's a lot of reasons, but largely is that we rejected tribalism and so all throughout the first five books of Moses.
00:29:21.000We don't have to talk about too much religion if you don't want to, but basically our whole civilization is based on these ideas.
00:29:26.000The first five books of Moses Genesis Exodus Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy there's a constant refrain, to love the stranger, to love the stranger and to reject always being in your tribal group.
00:29:38.000Right, so it was this tension of God's chosen people, of the Hebrews, the nation of Israel, but that you are not necessarily better than anybody else.
00:29:46.000You might be the messengers of the lord, because people always want to just go back to sectarianism.
00:29:51.000Right, and the West has worked because we say okay, I don't care about your sect, I care about your character and your action and your soul, your leadership.
00:30:02.000The left wants to destroy all of that.
00:30:57.000And the answer is that there is now a currency.
00:31:00.000There is a way to get up in life if you check the box of the lineage that correlates with oppression, alleged oppression, versus oppressor.
00:31:43.000We're made in the image of the divine.
00:31:46.000And to your point of kind of the college selection, we've now made an incentive structure where you actually get a benefit from playing into this identity politics, which is why you have people faking being black.
00:32:00.000And this is how you know there's no white privilege, is that people want to stop being white.
00:32:26.000It's self-hatred, but it's self-mutilation.
00:32:29.000And so this is why, I mean, I'm a very proud Christian and I'm happy to talk about it as much as you guys are comfortable not trying to proselytize.
00:32:36.000But when you get rid of Christianity as at least a default, a default worldview, something stupid is going to take it in its place.
00:32:45.000So you might not believe that Jesus is the king of the world.
00:32:48.000You might not believe in everything in the Bible.
00:32:50.000But you're being intellectually dishonest if you don't at least acknowledge that the world is better when Christianity is at least somewhat within the moral fiber.
00:34:25.000So you have that group, that group, that group.
00:34:27.000Now you have all of this racism, basically, just in different ways, which we never had before.
00:34:33.000Then it's getting shoved down people's throats with TikTok, like I said, all this other stuff, the news, you know, because big pharma is behind that, politics are better than that, so on and so forth.
00:36:26.000They get to administer them antidepressants for the rest of their life: benzodiazepine, Zola, opiates, Xanax, yeah, all sorts of different SSRIs, serotonin disruptors.
00:36:37.000And I think 20 years from now, when there's a million problems, boom, you have to go back in.
00:36:41.000So that's an annuity for the pharmaceutical companies.
00:36:43.000Not to mention, so the rough estimates that it's about a million dollars per kid per year of pharmaceutical profits of everyone they're able to chop off their parts, right?
00:38:28.000They were not him, that we are not him, and they want to inquire the natural world.
00:38:32.000That was the tradition up until the 1800s, early 1900s, where something changed.
00:38:37.000Instead of looking into the natural world to seek to know, to seek to wonder, to seek to understand, the new science, the new left, the scientism, they seek to change nature.
00:38:48.000They seek to change the order of the cosmos.
00:38:51.000That's behind the trans movement, is that we are actually going to change the chromosomal makeup itself.
00:38:56.000We're going to use human will and exert our human will over the designed.
00:39:01.000Now, does them sealing all of Tesla's stuff play into that as well?
00:39:10.000I mean, I think there's some misinformation.
00:39:13.000I think Edison actually was pretty cool, but that's a separate issue.
00:39:17.000Yeah, look, there is a pretty substantial theory that Nikola Tesla had a plan to power the world and that it very well might have been covered up.
00:39:52.000But if you really believe that these people are sinister and he had a low-cost, basically free way to power the world, then he would run away from it.
00:40:01.000Yeah, well, these people are far more evil than we could ever imagine.
00:40:04.000Well, it looks, I mean, why else would you seal it?
00:40:08.000Because as you said, it goes all the way back.
00:40:09.000And we talk about Soros and Gates, even though we saw Gates on the name with the whole COVID thing that started in 09.
00:43:04.000And I was quickly drawn to the belief that if we do not have more people in the streets capturing the truth, we're going to constantly be fed what the media wants us to believe.
00:43:16.000So it just basically started with a very simple premise: public displays of anarchy and chaos.
00:43:23.000We need to be capturing everything that's happening there.
00:43:28.000Not just the clip that they want you to see.
00:43:30.000Hours and hours and hours of footage, right?
00:43:33.000And so we started Frontlines as a way to be literally on the front lines to capture what is happening from the Roe versus Wade stuff.
00:43:41.000We were there and we had the most viral footage to them trying to storm the Phoenix Capitol to some of the BLM stuff we've seen recently to the Antifa stuff in Georgia.
00:43:52.000And so that's we're not doing what Veritas, when James used to be there, what James O'Keefe, forget Veritas, what James O'Keefe, you know, used to do.
00:44:03.000Instead, we're doing something that is far more simple, which is we're going to be in the streets capturing these big high-profile events, whether it be Trans Day of Vengeance, we were there, the Detransitioner riot in Sacramento.
00:44:18.000Almost every day, we have motivated guerrilla journalists that are simply doing the work of being on the front lines and giving millions of people the truth of what's actually happening.
00:44:29.000And we think that's really helpful and really important to capture the essence of what's actually happening and to educate the population on it.
00:46:11.000And so if it wasn't for our frontlines project, the riot and when they were trying to come into my speech at University of California, Davis, with weapons never would have been publicized.
00:48:09.000Our hope and our desire is that through capturing all this footage, we can make it less likely for the other side to do absolutely to do a Fed surrection.
00:48:51.000They're taking red-eye flights, you know, flying coach, you know, landing, grabbing their gear, dressing in all black, and staying in, kind of trying to stay in the shadows to capture what's happening so the rest of the world can see the next police firebombing training center that we saw in Antifa, right?
00:51:18.000He said, you need to do prudent action, not act as if the rules are right, but try to win over as many hearts and minds within the totalitarian parameters to point towards liberation.
00:51:30.000And so I say that with, there's some people, for example, that will intentionally defy YouTube's rules and then they'll complain that they get banned.
00:55:21.000They have like 12 people that work in the podcast division, and they're all kind of like civil libertarian types, free speech types.
00:55:29.000And they don't, I mean, unless it's blatant, like unless they get a ton of complaints and somebody is doing something so insane, then they might censor it.
00:55:40.000But there's some pretty strong content on there that hasn't been touched.
00:58:02.000Yeah, I mean, look, the Lord has blessed me significantly, and I'm just an instrument for his will, and I don't say that lightly of a great team, and things really fell into place.
00:58:13.000But there's nothing like a decade-long overnight success story.
00:58:17.000So, people, you know, I get some critics, and they say, Oh, Charlie, you know, you're just you kind of fell in, and you haven't done anything.
00:58:24.000Look, in the last 10 years, I've traveled.
01:00:15.000But also, I have to make sure it's clear.
01:00:17.000I mean, if I were to thank the people that catapulted me, and this is one of the main reasons I support him in 2024, I would not be in the professional or organizational position I'm in if it wasn't for the generosity of President Trump.
01:00:37.000They said, why do you support him in 2024?
01:00:39.000I said, well, look, despite the fact he was a great president and that I think he'll win again, I have a personal debt to him and a loyalty because he was so magnanimous to me.
01:01:34.000And I was his bodyman, which is funny because I always tell people, I say, I know what it takes to be a good bodyman because I was one for 100 days.
01:01:42.000And you wake up before he does, you wait for him in the lobby.
01:01:45.000And it wasn't that official because there was no campaign.
01:01:49.000They accused us of colluding with Russia.
01:01:51.000We couldn't collude to order a pizza, right?
01:01:54.000We would confuse Cincinnati with Columbus, with Cleveland all the time.
01:02:57.000But it gave us an opportunity to build an infrastructure, raise more money, use the notoriety for good.
01:03:04.000And so whenever I tell the story, I just hope everyone understands that without President Trump, my own personal success, whatever that might be, and the success of the turning point machine now wouldn't be possible without President Trump.
01:03:50.000And I'll never forget, you know, here I am, a kid that doesn't go to college, sitting in the outer oval with the president for an hour and a half, two hours, getting invited on Air Force One.
01:04:00.000I mean, yeah, I owe something to that man.
01:04:16.000And I literally wrote the book MAGA Doctrine.
01:04:18.000But I hope people understand this is a good man.
01:04:21.000This is a man that has helped create movements bigger than himself.
01:04:24.000Well, you didn't see any war problems.
01:04:26.000You didn't see Putin making any moves.
01:04:28.000You didn't see North Korea shooting missiles whenever they wanted, whenever they felt like it.
01:04:32.000No, and I mean, and here's the thing is that I tell people about Trump all the time, and I've had a great opportunity to spend a lot of time with him, is that I hear nothing but the negatives.
01:04:42.000But do we ever talk about the virtues of Trump?
01:04:46.000Okay, if you're intellectually honest about any being that is larger than life, okay, can you, with an equal footing, say, okay, yeah, he's a narcissist, all that.
01:05:06.000And that he believes in other people and he's creative and he's funny and he's endearing and that he's got more energy than any single human being I've ever come across.
01:05:45.000All of a sudden they talk all this shit on him.
01:05:48.000But I think the most fucked up part with it all is when in any party, a Democrat or Republican, when they go after kids and the family, leave them alone.
01:05:57.000Like his son, his son has nothing to do with him.
01:06:25.000President Trump raised some great kids.
01:06:28.000Those are, they are some of the best people that I've ever met.
01:06:31.000They're honest, they're ethical, they're loyal, and they're helpful to me and to the country.
01:06:36.000So, anyway, I don't mean to riff too much on the Trump thing.
01:06:38.000I just think he gets such a negative rap.
01:06:40.000And as someone, I call him a friend, I'm all in.
01:06:44.000And I just think anybody with a brain, I don't care what you're for, if you take away the he's not presidential, I look at their president.
01:06:50.000You mean nuts, you mean that the country was better or worse?
01:07:36.000Now, you're always at the top of Twitter.
01:07:38.000I think Trump is the only one that's ahead of you, right?
01:07:40.000As conservative, he's the piece of that huge on Twitter.
01:07:42.000Yeah, it's I used to be kind of one of the, I was the third biggest Twitter account, according to Axios, most engaged, not biggest, by followers, or fourth.
01:11:43.000My working hypothesis, and I want to be very clear, Facebook, out of all the social media companies, Facebook is probably not the easiest to work with, but they're not as tyrannical as Twitter was.
01:12:42.000And so, look, I think Zuckerberg was...
01:12:44.000I think Zuckerberg was approached by somebody in 2020 with a threat because Facebook was being investigated by the Federal Trade Commission, the FTC.
01:12:58.000And it very well could have broke up the entire company.
01:13:00.000And knowing the way the left operates, what I believe happened is somebody came to him and said, wow, you know, it probably wasn't this blunt, but it was probably close.
01:13:08.000You know, that FTC investigation is really dangerous.
01:13:12.000You know, there's a big need for a $400 million cash infusion for private Dropboxes in the Battleground States.
01:15:01.000I think they might, what they're trying to do medically looks interesting as far as doctors could help other doctors in surgery rooms and operating rooms and actually be there.
01:15:13.000But I don't know how that's any different than just having a live camera.
01:15:58.000I mean, I have a lot of complaints about it.
01:16:01.000But the regime in DC is using the hatred of TikTok as basically an excuse to be able to ban any speech they do not like, to control the entire internet.
01:16:13.000They've introduced this bill, the Restrict Act, which would create absolute Soviet tyranny on the internet.
01:16:18.000So Twitter, Rumble, Telegram, all because they have foreign partners, they could use this act to completely shut down those applications, which are used mainly by right-wing actors.
01:17:11.000If you go back to YouTube, YouTube Shorts and Instagram Reels, YouTube and Instagram have compiled, Google and Instagram, Google and Facebook, let me be even more specific, have combined a very secret alliance that no one's talking about right now, where they have thousands of lobbyists where they're trying to ban TikTok because it will help their company.
01:18:34.000Don't you see the same, and this is on the same set of lines there.
01:18:37.000Don't you see the same thing happening with the banks that they want all these banks to fail so they have, whether they're Bank of America, Wells, Fargo, four major, whoever those are, four major, and then they can control that also.
01:19:51.000So basically, and this is what I'm a big free market guy, but we're actually seeing the hyper-corporatization of the country where you're getting three or four select politician-favored companies that control every sector.
01:20:11.000So America was free because we had community banks.
01:20:15.000The more we've had hyper Wall Street culture with the repeal of Glass Steagle, never should have happened, which was the convergence of investment banks and commercial banks.
01:20:23.000We've seen this whole kind of new leviathan set in.
01:20:26.000And so they want to get rid of community banks.
01:20:28.000And the same way they want to try to only have a couple social media companies, a couple banks, couple soft drink companies.
01:21:11.000And then you look and you say to yourself, also, when I was seeing that, I was saying, okay, well, the reason why you want to ban TikTok is because Instagram, Facebook, blah, blah, blah, they're all doing the same thing.
01:22:21.000Try to have, and it's called like Project Texas or something, where you have some American companies buy it and onshore all the data, where therefore you have at least some form of a precedent that if you are owned by a bad foreign actor, you have to onshore the asset, and you cannot then ban Rumble, Telegram, Twitter.
01:22:44.000Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, AOC, would love nothing more than to be able to get rid of Twitter, Rumble, and Telegram.
01:22:52.000The American right lives on Twitter, Rumble, and Telegram right now.
01:25:30.000When you start thinking about the third, I just, that popped in my head because, sure.
01:25:33.000Yeah, but it's more than the border, get the votes, do whatever.
01:25:37.000It's for labor and it's also for an increased consumer base.
01:25:40.000And so the oligarchs that run America, there's like four or five of them, they benefit tremendously from an increased consumer base using dollar bills, specifically Walmart and Amazon.
01:25:51.000So, for example, there's something called remittances, where if you cross the border, you work here as a maid, you send money back, you remit money back to Mexico, Nicaragua, El Salvador.
01:26:09.000And that's just one example of thousands I could come up with, right?
01:26:13.000Not to mention low-wage labor for the hotel industry in Texas and Arizona.
01:26:17.000You know, the low-wage labor for the Construction and Development Agency industry in Arizona, where I live, is a big thing.
01:26:24.000But also, the more people exchanging in dollar bills in the low-wage kind of consumer goods area, it's really good for Amazon, really good for Walmart, really bad for middle-class America.
01:28:41.000Bitcoin is just as valuable as we believe it to be, similar to the dollar.
01:28:45.000But I am a believer in the philosophy of decentralized blockchain technology that is transparent, that is public, that has a ledger that you can check and you can see all the transactions.
01:28:57.000I think that builds faith in the currency itself.
01:30:58.000The world order that was put in post-World War II, the kind of neoliberal order has its problems.
01:31:03.000But we've become super rich in this country because we are the world's reserve currency.
01:31:07.000It kind of is our secret weapon, if you will, the secret sauce.
01:31:11.000Now, they're going to have trouble getting off the dollar as the world reserve currency for a lot of reasons.
01:31:16.000There are countries that the two major countries that backstop us is Germany and Japan.
01:31:21.000And the only benefit of our hyper involvement in this stupid war in eastern Ukraine is that Germany's not going to get off the dollar anytime soon as their world reserve currency.
01:31:31.000The Euro is going to be backed by the dollar.
01:33:25.000The big question is, why the heck are we allowing Saudi Arabia to do this, right?
01:33:29.000I'm no fan of Saudi Arabia, but the petro dollar basically with the House Assaud, we built this whole project back in the 50s or 60s when we realized we're going to need a lot of oil.
01:33:40.000We realized that Americans are driving more.
01:33:42.000We realize that we need fossil fuel-based and Saudi Arabia and America came to kind of an agreement and we came up with OPEC, right?
01:34:06.000We should try to get to Russia to have not gross to China.
01:34:09.000And the obligation number one of the American ruling class should be to protect the dollar as the world reserve currency.
01:34:15.000Now, you might say, well, Charlie, what does the world reserve currency mean?
01:34:18.000Here's the best way I can explain it: it's that if you acknowledge the dollar as the world reserve currency, you have to change your home currency to dollars in order to trade, which therefore makes our currency more valuable.
01:36:15.000They make the planes that we're sending over there.
01:36:17.000And Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and Raytheon is the other one.
01:36:19.000Those are the big defense contractors.
01:36:22.000But yeah, I mean, look, it's less about who makes a bunch of money, and it's more about why are we involved in this in the first place?
01:36:31.000And it's a series of bad mistakes and kind of a comedy of errors that all kind of comes back to a false premise that Russia is the great evil.
01:37:29.000And the consequence is Russia, after we slap on all these sanctions, Russia said, okay, fine, I'm going to go grow close to your great enemy, China, which has happened.
01:38:00.000And so they're trying to backstop their economy.
01:38:03.000And the issue, so a lot of people say, oh, Charlie, if we stop trading with China, it would crash our economy.
01:38:09.000It would be hard to get some products.
01:38:11.000The biggest problem with China is that they own our elites.
01:38:15.000That's the biggest problem: they've captured our powerful people, whether it be the head of the National Basketball Association, head of the banking cartel, the head of Hollywood, they make so much money off of the Chinese Communist Party personally.
01:42:18.000And what would America look as if, what would America look like if 90% of kids actually didn't go to college?
01:42:24.000And so I make that argument in the book.
01:42:25.000And when you're writing this book, not all of it, just give me three things that shocked you, even knowing what you knew that factually shocked you.
01:47:18.000In fact, I think it's a chance to flourish.
01:47:21.000I think it's a chance to become an entrepreneur or to go intern and go be mentored by somebody or to go travel, which I think really enriches somebody's soul and their worldview.
01:47:32.000So, yeah, I mean, just because they don't go to college, you can also just say, all right, well, then you get six months at home, then you got to find a job and pay rent.
01:47:39.000That's way better of an education for them than actually going to college.
01:47:43.000Because the problem with college, again, I talk about this in the book, is it's so removed from reality.
01:47:51.000Every meal is provided for them, right?
01:47:53.000You have this awful hookup culture where they are completely detached from, I think, strong sexual ethics that actually make people happier and more joyful.
01:48:02.000So it's just the men especially get all messed up on their view of women and women get super depressed, right?
01:48:33.000So I make the argument in the book, again, I think rather soberly, I could have went even harsher, that it's a scam and scams should be closed and shut down and held accountable.
01:48:44.000And from my research, I'm one of the few people that's actually making that argument.
01:48:50.000Do you think, real quick, I know you have much time left.
01:48:52.000Do you think that they're pushing kids?
01:48:54.000You know, you see with the whole, we'll pay for your college tuition.
01:49:41.000The next book I might write, I have like three books I'm working on at once.
01:49:45.000I got to figure out which one I'm actually going to proceed with.
01:49:47.000But a book I will write in my life is: I believe that keeping the Sabbath is one of the most important things a human being can do.
01:49:56.000Having a day of rest, I think it's a gift from the Lord.
01:49:59.000And I think fully shutting down, turning off your phone, turning off all the technology for a 24-hour period would make America less depressed, less suicidal, less anxious.
01:50:07.000I do it Friday night to Sunday morning, no phone, no TV, no news, just books, family, walking, food.