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00:00:00.000Today on The Charlie Kirk Show, we have James O'Keefe joins us about a very powerful new movie, Lying in the Sand, and we ask a provocative question about the Border Patrol.
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00:01:43.000I don't even want to play any of the trailers or anything until James is here.
00:01:47.000Let's go to some of the latest news here out of Israel.
00:01:50.000Right now it is clear that Iran has launched ballistic missiles into the They did this in coordination with a mass shooting event that might have left about 10 people dead in Israel, in Jaffa.
00:03:42.000And I think it shows people something they've never seen.
00:03:44.000I mean, it's like, it's called Line in the Sand because it's about the border, but it's not really about the border.
00:03:51.000It's about people doing things they don't want to do to earn a living.
00:03:56.000And you contrast a lot of the cowardly people with some of the brave people at the end of the film that blow the whistle on the Border Patrol, and it's really inspiring, and I think it will create a movement of people to blow the whistle.
00:04:06.000Well, let's play some of the sound here and some of the tape.
00:04:10.000Let's play cut 40 from your new movie, Line in the Sand.
00:04:13.000In the film, Line in the Sand, coming out October 10th, a Border Patrol agent blows the whistle and made reference to people like Aaron, who get retaliated against for speaking up.
00:04:25.000And when agents speak up, they're buried in management.
00:04:29.000I know a few whistleblowers that got toasted.
00:04:32.000They tried to do what's right, laughed at, ostracized.
00:04:48.000And he's talking about girls under the age of 14, they don't take their biometrics, and he sends children off to places they don't know where these unaccompanied children are going.
00:04:57.000So a lot of these guys really can't live with themselves.
00:05:00.000It weighs on them very heavily and it's a crisis of conscience.
00:05:07.000There's one scene where I'm actually, I'm standing face to face with the cartel and they're cutting through the steel beam, the Trump wall in California.
00:05:16.000And I'm standing there, they're cutting through the beam, they're threatening me, and the Border Patrol agent is just standing there watching.
00:05:22.000So I think it looks at the crisis through a different kind of lens.
00:05:27.000A lot of times we talk about these issues, but to actually be there and see it, I think it's very shocking.
00:05:35.000So are you telling me that the American government, aka Border Patrol, are told to help facilitate young girls to go into sex slavery, potentially?
00:05:52.000The government's also funding these unaccompanied child centers in Texas.
00:05:58.000Southwest Key, these other NGOs are being paid for by Health and Human Services, getting billions of dollars of funding to house these people.
00:06:06.000And my takeaway in the film is everyone's making money off of this.
00:06:10.000Everyone's enriching themselves off of this.
00:06:12.000Unfortunately, a lot of it is simply just about money.
00:06:15.000And that's why I was told this is not going to end, because you have to take away all these people's money for it to end.
00:06:22.000And I don't think people need to experience it to fully understand it.
00:06:26.000I also rode the freight train, it's called the Beast Train, in Mexico.
00:06:31.000My colleague was kidnapped by the cartel.
00:06:34.000I was detained by the Mexican army, and I secretly recorded all of this, so it's quite a... What part of Mexico?
00:07:29.000And that may not shock you, but you know, the thing about video, the thing about films is that I think that it's important to show things through a different lens.
00:07:38.000I think we see things, we talk about things retrospectively, but to actually live it, to actually journey with the illegal immigrant, I mean I actually rode the train With the Venezuelans.
00:07:50.000And I think the film, it's, I took all politics out of the film, Charlie.
00:07:56.000It's just about, it's a humanitarian issue.
00:07:59.000And to see these, you have to experience this.
00:08:01.000I see these women with babies strapped to their chest, climbing aboard a moving freight train.
00:08:06.000I mean, you have to be inhuman to not care about, and they throw the babies on the train, and this is gruesome and horrific, but sometimes the beast train has no floor, and people get mutilated, And they say this is a humanitarian thing to have all these people come across the border.
00:09:15.000And you're talking about... I mean, listen, this is a harder question.
00:09:19.000Listen, I'm the first one to come out and say, you guys need to do the right thing.
00:09:23.000But, and Charlie, as I speak, there are dozens of agents that are on the fence, willing almost, but they've got kids, they've got mortgages, they've got wives who tell them not to do it.
00:09:34.000And this is why the film is called Line in the Sand, because you have a couple agents who are insanely brave.
00:09:39.000A guy named Aaron Vecchi, just yesterday, I sent this video to you and your producer, blew the whistle on the Ajo facility.
00:09:46.000And he said, you know, it's going to get to a point where my granddaughter is going to ask me, what did you do?
00:10:05.000But just to be clear, Border Patrol, they are knowingly processing girls into sex slavery, and they don't want to stop it because they want to make sure they get paid.
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00:12:12.000I just, I want everyone to understand that, you know, when James and I talk down to some of these Border Patrol agents who are basically co-sponsors of sex slavery, look at what James has gone through.
00:14:05.000So it's some pretty riveting stuff, and I think it'll wake people up.
00:14:09.000So, James, the Why is it that most conservative media and no left-wing media has done this obvious reporting?
00:14:19.000I mean, this is the human rights issue of our time.
00:14:23.000You and I grew up in the conservative movement always being lectured by left-wingers about how we're an evil country because we had chattel slavery in the 1600s, 1700s, 1800s, which we agree.
00:14:38.000And is it fair to say, James, that this is a form of slavery?
00:14:42.000I think the unaccompanied children aspect of this, the half a million children in three years, people don't realize unaccompanied migrant immigrant children are being housed in facilities that no one has ever heard of.
00:15:36.000You get sued, you might get jailed, you might get shot.
00:15:40.000For all these aforementioned reasons, people choose not to do it, but we did it.
00:15:44.000And I think the film is... I think this one is gonna be... I think this might change things.
00:15:49.000How do people... so explain the Tucker partnership.
00:15:52.000Yeah, I mean, so we made the film and Tucker, TCN, which is... and I think Tucker's got a massive presence and a massive name.
00:16:00.000He's going into long-form programming, so, you know, much like in Netflix, so...
00:16:05.000TuckerCarlson.com slash line in the sand is where you can stream the film and we have an exclusive deal with him for 60 days So that's where you can watch the film and then it'll go wider wider after that We have a premiere next next Tuesday and in in Los Angeles and we'll have a few theatrical events around the country But right now it's through Tucker exclusively and for independent and swing voters.
00:17:01.000But I saw it as a humanitarian issue, and I think if people understand the nature of the issue, And I think that it'll affect people who are on the left.
00:17:11.000I mean, there's going to be extreme forms of people, but I think on the peripheral aspects, I think it'll affect and change hearts and minds.
00:20:47.000That was one of the guys in New York City who has given fake residencies out to illegal immigrants and making money off of it, making $1,100 per individual.
00:20:56.000And the individuals that he was taking advantage of in the film come forward from Ecuador and tell us he's a fraud.
00:21:03.000So we caught some people on hidden camera doing some illegal things in this movie.
00:21:07.000And it's pretty, it actually is shocking.
00:21:10.000I wouldn't say it's surprising, I think it's shocking.
00:21:13.000So how much money is being made on this?
00:21:30.000Trillion-dollar agency funding all these facilities to house all these children.
00:21:35.000And the people in the movie tell me, it actually kind of is surprising they say these, maybe I'm really good at my job, maybe I got lucky, I don't know.
00:21:43.000We need the children to keep coming so that we can keep making money.
00:22:51.000The Roosevelt Hotel near Times Square, I went in there, they gave us this bracelet with a number And in a post 9-11 America, a guy can just walk in there, get a free flight.
00:23:02.000They even gave us, you know, our facility in New York City, Randall's Island, they even gave us an ID.
00:23:07.000So it's like, I mean, it's one thing to talk about it, it's another thing to see it.
00:24:16.000See, people think there's this big conspiracy, and there might be, but the bottom line is that at the end of the day, it's all about money.
00:25:20.000It seems as if in the trailer you really pinpoint this and I want the audience here to email me freedom at charliekirk.com your thoughts and your opinions.
00:25:28.000Do you think that the majority of Border Patrol agents are good and admirable people when they say I'm just doing my job and they're processing how many hundreds of thousands Oh, God.
00:25:39.000I mean hundreds of thousands. Hundreds of thousands of girls and young kids into prostitution.
00:25:45.000Is the Border Patrol blameless? Should we hold them accountable? Should we treat them,
00:25:51.000you know, nicely? Email me freedom at charliekirk.com. Are they victims? Are they just
00:25:58.000bystanders or bystanders? Or should we hold them higher?
00:26:01.000James, I'm guessing in the documentary, it seems that that is a theme that you kind of laced into, is, okay, yes, we can blame the cartels, but why are American Border Patrol who swear an oath, why are they getting a free pass?
00:26:20.000There's one scene in the film that really struck me.
00:26:23.000Where there's a Portuguese guy standing, he's got tatted up, dangerous looking guy, and he's standing right in front, about 100 meters in front of a border patrol car, with two guys sitting in it, and they're just sitting there watching him.
00:26:36.000And I say, and the guy goes, and he says in Portuguese, I got a translator, he says, I want to be detained.
00:27:36.000Why is Congress not giving whistleblower protections to all these Border Patrol agents for being... I'm not gonna name names, but you know, so I'm not naming names on the record, but some of these senators and congressmembers have told me point-blank, face-to-face, James, there's nothing we can do.
00:27:53.000Somebody said something in the trailer that I think was the most powerful line.
00:27:57.000You can't get 500,000 kids into the country without help.
00:28:02.000So, Tara Rodis said in the film, mic drop moment, you can't move 500,000 unaccompanied immigrant children in three years if you're asking a lot of questions.
00:28:17.000Her point was, and we talk about this in the film, it's a liability for the Biden administration They don't poke around this issue.
00:28:29.000They're putting unaccompanied children into sponsors' homes.
00:30:23.000Should we, how do we morally gauge, judge, if you will, a person who is facilitating evil for a paycheck?
00:30:32.000Let's play cut 41 from James O'Keefe's film.
00:30:34.000Border Patrol agent Aaron Vecchi has been in the Border Patrol for over 19 years in Tucson sector in Ajo, Arizona.
00:30:42.000He witnessed atrocities of immigrant children burning up in the desert heat under a makeshift canopy at the Border Patrol station at 150 North Highway in Ajo.
00:30:53.000He witnessed children freezing in the winter.
00:30:56.000He even captured never-before-seen videos that he provided to us, which we are publishing here.
00:31:02.000So what's going on in those videos, James?
00:31:03.000And then we have the interview with him, too.
00:31:05.000Yes, that was actually not from the film.
00:31:08.000That was a Border Patrol agent that blew the whistle yesterday as a result of a Border Patrol agent, Zach, who's in the film.
00:31:16.000And this is in Ajo, Arizona, about two hours southwest of here, and he witnessed atrocities, these Illegal immigrants a humanitarian issue and his patrol agents his supervisors told him they put a boot on his neck and said you got to go do this anyway and follow our orders and he said I can't good conscience do this he blew the whistle he went to OSC they sent him a cease and desist letter
00:31:39.000Zach, the corporate agent of the film, Charlie, has also just been sent a C-synthesis letter for appearing in the film.
00:31:45.000So my vision is to have 20, 30, 40, 50 agents step forward, all in lockstep.
00:31:52.000I think the only way this changes is if people all stand up together, whistleblowing in tandem.
00:31:59.000Let's see Agent Vecchi from the Tucson Sector, play cut 42.
00:32:03.000And what's important to me Is that when my granddaughter's old enough, and she's in high school, and she comes to me and says, Grandpa, Tata, Tata, Aaron, she says, what were you doing?
00:32:16.000Weren't you in the border patrol back then?
00:32:19.000I can look at her with a straight face and say, baby girl, I was trying.
00:33:57.000The audience says you are not innocent if you are participating in this, and I think that's really the through line of your film, is to try to prompt everyday Americans to no longer be okay with just cashing a check while seeing evil.
00:34:57.000When you have your pension many years from now, and you're tucked in your bed, and you're nice and comfortable, what would you give for just one chance to go back to October 2024?
00:35:05.000and stand up and, oh, I have children, I have grandchildren.