The Charlie Kirk Show - October 02, 2024


The Line in the Sand ft. James O'Keefe

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James O'Keefe joins us to talk about his new movie, "Line in the Sand" and we ask a provocative question about the Border Patrol. Charlie and Tucker also discuss Iran's latest missile attack on Israel, and the recent mass shooting in Jaffa, Israel, which may have left about 10 people dead. And we ask the question, who are the brave people who blow the whistle on the border patrol? Who are the ones that get retaliated against for speaking up against the overworked, overpaid, overworked Border Patrol agents? And why do they do what they do? And how do they deserve to be compensated for their courage in speaking up about the overburdened border patrol agents who get bullied by those who speak up against them? And when they speak up, are they ostracized by those in management? And what do they get to do to make a name for themselves in the eyes of the public, other than get ridiculed and ridiculed by the people who dare to speak up about what they are really trying to do? What is he trying to expose? And why does he do what he does? This is a very powerful movie, and it's coming out on October 10th, and we can't wait to see it! Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and physical delivery of precious metals. That's where I buy all of my gold. That is Noble Gold Investments at Noble Gold. It's website. It s where I Buy All of my Gold Investing. It is where I'm where I BUY ALL OF my Gold. I Buy all my Gold, I buy it. I'm a Noble Gold Investor Investments. I'll Tell a Friend, I Buy It All of My Gold. That s Where I Buy My Gold Invested In It, I'll Give You A Copy Of My Gold? That's Where I Can Tell You How Much I Can Protect My Gold I Can I Can Help Protect My Wealth, I Will Tell You That I'm Safe, I Can't Say That I Can Buy It, That's My Gold Is Safe, That s My Story, I ll Tell You What I Can Do That, I'm Not Safe, And I'm Gonna Tell You Can I Have It, and I'll Send You A Message I Can Say That, And That's How I Can Talk About It, & I'll Let You Can Help You Do That?

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00:00:00.000 Today on The Charlie Kirk Show, we have James O'Keefe joins us about a very powerful new movie, Lying in the Sand, and we ask a provocative question about the Border Patrol.
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00:01:34.000 In just a second here we will have James O'Keefe in studio joining us about his new film Line in the Sand.
00:01:42.000 It is terrific.
00:01:43.000 I don't even want to play any of the trailers or anything until James is here.
00:01:47.000 Let's go to some of the latest news here out of Israel.
00:01:50.000 Right now it is clear that Iran has launched ballistic missiles into the They did this in coordination with a mass shooting event that might have left about 10 people dead in Israel, in Jaffa.
00:02:08.000 So let's play a piece of tape here.
00:02:11.000 This is live footage, just a couple moments ago, of rockets being fired into the interior of Israel here.
00:02:20.000 Missiles, I should say. 0.67
00:02:21.000 Play cut 65.
00:02:26.000 So this is a live development here and understand this is the world under Kamala Harris.
00:02:40.000 Right now you have dock worker strikes, you got Russia-Ukrainian war, you got Israel-Iran, you have widespread chaos.
00:02:47.000 Chaos is everywhere right now.
00:02:49.000 Mass shooting in Israel.
00:02:51.000 Half the ports in the country are closed in a long shoreman strike costing America billions every single day.
00:02:58.000 North Carolina is still underwater with a death toll over 130 and hundreds more still missing.
00:03:05.000 October is full of surprises and this is just the first day of October.
00:03:09.000 And Kamala Harris, if she were to become president, will cripple the Western world as we know it. 1.00
00:03:14.000 And now joining us is the legendary James O'Keefe.
00:03:18.000 James, how we doing man?
00:03:20.000 We are live on air.
00:03:21.000 Nice to see everyone.
00:03:22.000 James is here to talk about his new documentary, and James is a great American, and you're doing this with Tucker, is that right?
00:03:29.000 That's right.
00:03:30.000 So tell us about it, Lion in the Sand.
00:03:32.000 Well, this is a very unique film, Charlie.
00:03:34.000 It follows the journey of the illegal immigrants from their origin to their final destination. 0.96
00:03:39.000 And it took me a year to make.
00:03:42.000 And I think it shows people something they've never seen.
00:03:44.000 I mean, it's like, it's called Line in the Sand because it's about the border, but it's not really about the border.
00:03:51.000 It's about people doing things they don't want to do to earn a living.
00:03:56.000 And you contrast a lot of the cowardly people with some of the brave people at the end of the film that blow the whistle on the Border Patrol, and it's really inspiring, and I think it will create a movement of people to blow the whistle.
00:04:06.000 Well, let's play some of the sound here and some of the tape.
00:04:10.000 Let's play cut 40 from your new movie, Line in the Sand.
00:04:13.000 In the film, Line in the Sand, coming out October 10th, a Border Patrol agent blows the whistle and made reference to people like Aaron, who get retaliated against for speaking up.
00:04:25.000 And when agents speak up, they're buried in management.
00:04:29.000 I know a few whistleblowers that got toasted.
00:04:32.000 They tried to do what's right, laughed at, ostracized.
00:04:35.000 Very.
00:04:35.000 Really?
00:04:36.000 So what is he talking about here?
00:04:38.000 What is he trying to expose?
00:04:39.000 So that's Zack in the Border Patrol, and it's very rare you see a Border Patrol agent in uniform like that.
00:04:45.000 It's against policy to do that.
00:04:48.000 And he's talking about girls under the age of 14, they don't take their biometrics, and he sends children off to places they don't know where these unaccompanied children are going.
00:04:57.000 So a lot of these guys really can't live with themselves.
00:05:00.000 It weighs on them very heavily and it's a crisis of conscience.
00:05:04.000 So you see that in the film.
00:05:05.000 You see Border Patrol agents.
00:05:07.000 There's one scene where I'm actually, I'm standing face to face with the cartel and they're cutting through the steel beam, the Trump wall in California.
00:05:16.000 And I'm standing there, they're cutting through the beam, they're threatening me, and the Border Patrol agent is just standing there watching.
00:05:22.000 So I think it looks at the crisis through a different kind of lens.
00:05:26.000 It's very immersive.
00:05:27.000 A lot of times we talk about these issues, but to actually be there and see it, I think it's very shocking.
00:05:35.000 So are you telling me that the American government, aka Border Patrol, are told to help facilitate young girls to go into sex slavery, potentially?
00:05:43.000 That's how they feel.
00:05:44.000 That's what they're telling me.
00:05:47.000 So we're subsidizing, potentially, Border Patrol agents?
00:05:52.000 The government's also funding these unaccompanied child centers in Texas.
00:05:58.000 Southwest Key, these other NGOs are being paid for by Health and Human Services, getting billions of dollars of funding to house these people.
00:06:06.000 And my takeaway in the film is everyone's making money off of this.
00:06:10.000 Everyone's enriching themselves off of this.
00:06:12.000 Unfortunately, a lot of it is simply just about money.
00:06:15.000 And that's why I was told this is not going to end, because you have to take away all these people's money for it to end.
00:06:22.000 And I don't think people need to experience it to fully understand it.
00:06:26.000 I also rode the freight train, it's called the Beast Train, in Mexico.
00:06:31.000 My colleague was kidnapped by the cartel.
00:06:34.000 I was detained by the Mexican army, and I secretly recorded all of this, so it's quite a... What part of Mexico?
00:06:40.000 This is in Iropuato, Mexico. 0.94
00:06:41.000 Man, they could have killed you, man. 0.99
00:06:42.000 Yes. 1.00
00:06:43.000 I was told, when I was in Iropuato, the locals said, you're crazy, you're going to get ransomed. 0.79
00:06:49.000 But we were fortunate.
00:06:50.000 We were lucky.
00:06:51.000 So help me understand, and the audience understand, the configuration of how the border works.
00:06:57.000 Who's in charge?
00:06:58.000 The cartel.
00:06:59.000 But I thought they just care about drugs.
00:07:02.000 Well, I was just in Ajo yesterday.
00:07:05.000 I interviewed a second border patrol agent.
00:07:06.000 I think there's going to be dozens of people blowing the whistle.
00:07:09.000 And he said, the cartel runs this border.
00:07:12.000 If they want to send 1,000 people across, then we process 1,000 people.
00:07:17.000 They've become a processing organization, no longer a law enforcement organization.
00:07:22.000 And they're very discouraged.
00:07:24.000 And the only reason they're doing it is because of the pension and the money.
00:07:28.000 That's what they tell me.
00:07:29.000 And that may not shock you, but you know, the thing about video, the thing about films is that I think that it's important to show things through a different lens.
00:07:38.000 I think we see things, we talk about things retrospectively, but to actually live it, to actually journey with the illegal immigrant, I mean I actually rode the train With the Venezuelans. 0.79
00:07:50.000 And I think the film, it's, I took all politics out of the film, Charlie.
00:07:54.000 There's no politics in the film.
00:07:56.000 It's just about, it's a humanitarian issue.
00:07:59.000 And to see these, you have to experience this.
00:08:01.000 I see these women with babies strapped to their chest, climbing aboard a moving freight train. 1.00
00:08:06.000 I mean, you have to be inhuman to not care about, and they throw the babies on the train, and this is gruesome and horrific, but sometimes the beast train has no floor, and people get mutilated, And they say this is a humanitarian thing to have all these people come across the border.
00:08:22.000 It's just, it weighs on people.
00:08:24.000 And that's what the film is really about.
00:08:26.000 It's about drawing the line in the literal sand and making a decision about whether we want to participate in this.
00:08:33.000 So you say that the cartel does whatever they want on the border.
00:08:36.000 So our government is subservient to a foreign drug gang? 1.00
00:08:39.000 That's what the Border Patrol agents tell me.
00:08:42.000 And I mean, they're making $10,000 a head.
00:08:44.000 Cartels.
00:08:45.000 Yes.
00:08:46.000 $10,000 per person.
00:08:47.000 And that's what I was told.
00:08:49.000 And they threatened me, by the way.
00:08:51.000 They said, you know, they're cutting through and they say, you have to let us finish this work. 1.00
00:08:55.000 As the border patrol agent stands there and watching, I'm a layman and I'm thinking, why don't you just shoot those guys? 0.99
00:09:00.000 They're cutting through. 0.99
00:09:01.000 Yeah, why doesn't the U.S. 0.99
00:09:02.000 Border Patrol take out weapons and kill the cartel? 0.89
00:09:04.000 Why don't they arrest them or something?
00:09:07.000 They arrest me, so... Why doesn't the Border Patrol do their job?
00:09:11.000 They want their pension so badly?
00:09:13.000 It's all about the pension.
00:09:14.000 It's all about the money.
00:09:15.000 And you're talking about... I mean, listen, this is a harder question.
00:09:19.000 Listen, I'm the first one to come out and say, you guys need to do the right thing.
00:09:23.000 But, and Charlie, as I speak, there are dozens of agents that are on the fence, willing almost, but they've got kids, they've got mortgages, they've got wives who tell them not to do it.
00:09:34.000 And this is why the film is called Line in the Sand, because you have a couple agents who are insanely brave.
00:09:39.000 A guy named Aaron Vecchi, just yesterday, I sent this video to you and your producer, blew the whistle on the Ajo facility.
00:09:46.000 And he said, you know, it's going to get to a point where my granddaughter is going to ask me, what did you do?
00:09:53.000 I just want to make sure I'm clear. 0.56
00:09:58.000 And again, I'm not here to attack rank-and-file people because most people are cowards, right?
00:10:03.000 That's just the country we live in. 0.54
00:10:05.000 But just to be clear, Border Patrol, they are knowingly processing girls into sex slavery, and they don't want to stop it because they want to make sure they get paid.
00:10:15.000 Yes.
00:10:16.000 Yeah, no, that makes total sense by the way. Like that's the story of America is that I care far more about my
00:10:22.000 paycheck, girls into sex slavery don't care, rape the 13 year old, I 1.00
00:10:28.000 want my money. 1.00
00:10:29.000 But it's tearing them apart. It's tearing their conscience apart.
00:10:34.000 Obviously, why don't you quit and disgrace?
00:10:36.000 I don't understand. 0.99
00:10:37.000 Go become a priest or something.
00:10:41.000 Who are these people, actually?
00:10:42.000 They're struggling in the deepest parts of themselves.
00:10:46.000 I hear this a lot, though.
00:10:47.000 It makes perfect sense how the evils of the 20th century happen now.
00:10:53.000 Because, I mean, you have right here, people say, oh, you know, how is it that, you know, the gulags happen under Stalin?
00:10:58.000 You have these American border patrol, great guys, and they say, oh, here you go, 12-year-old girl.
00:10:58.000 I mean, look right here.
00:11:03.000 Yeah, no biometrics. 1.00
00:11:04.000 Go be raped. 1.00
00:11:06.000 But at least I get a paycheck. 1.00
00:11:07.000 That's exactly what's happening.
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00:12:03.000 So James, how are you doing?
00:12:05.000 Busy.
00:12:06.000 Busy.
00:12:07.000 I mean, you've had an interesting year and a half.
00:12:09.000 Yeah.
00:12:10.000 And you're still slugging, man.
00:12:12.000 Yeah.
00:12:12.000 I just, I want everyone to understand that, you know, when James and I talk down to some of these Border Patrol agents who are basically co-sponsors of sex slavery, look at what James has gone through.
00:12:21.000 You've given it all.
00:12:23.000 And I haven't given everything, but you and I can kind of talk from authority here.
00:12:28.000 We know what it's like to not have the easy life and to go do difficult things.
00:12:32.000 I don't have a lot of sympathy for people that do evil for money.
00:12:34.000 I just don't.
00:12:35.000 It's tough.
00:12:36.000 There's a part of me that sympathizes.
00:12:38.000 There's a part of me that has to empathize.
00:12:41.000 But what happened with me, and you're talking about the Veritas thing, the company I founded, I lost everything.
00:12:48.000 They escorted me out of the building that I built with my sister, and it was very hard.
00:12:52.000 But I think God had a plan, and maybe I didn't know what that plan was.
00:12:57.000 I spent a year making this film.
00:12:59.000 I spent a couple months on the border.
00:13:02.000 I spent three months in post-production.
00:13:04.000 I'm the director.
00:13:05.000 I didn't delegate it to somebody.
00:13:07.000 I actually was in that Los Angeles edit room for four months.
00:13:13.000 So I would not have been allowed the opportunity to do that.
00:13:16.000 Had I not been fired from Veritas.
00:13:18.000 This is your first film.
00:13:19.000 Yeah.
00:13:20.000 It's a movie.
00:13:20.000 It's a theatrical movie.
00:13:21.000 It's like the thing you'd see in movie theaters.
00:13:23.000 Now, Charlie, a lot of people say, well, we already know the border is broken.
00:13:26.000 We already know this.
00:13:27.000 I say, no, you know, most films either hire actors or they're retrospective.
00:13:33.000 Most docs, documentaries are, they're commentaries.
00:13:38.000 They interview people.
00:13:38.000 There is no, no, no, no.
00:13:39.000 The film starts with me embedded with the cartel.
00:13:42.000 So this is a very unique film, and I'm grateful that I was able to make it.
00:13:47.000 It's my vision.
00:13:48.000 I had to fight a lot of storytellers who told me to do it a different way, but I did it the way that I wanted to do it.
00:13:54.000 Like I said, I rode the beast, the freight train with the Venezuelans. 1.00
00:13:57.000 I was detained.
00:13:59.000 My colleague was kidnapped by the cartel.
00:14:00.000 They put a hood over his face, took a crowbar, destroyed his cameras.
00:14:04.000 We escaped with the SD chip.
00:14:05.000 So it's some pretty riveting stuff, and I think it'll wake people up.
00:14:09.000 So, James, the Why is it that most conservative media and no left-wing media has done this obvious reporting?
00:14:19.000 I mean, this is the human rights issue of our time.
00:14:23.000 You and I grew up in the conservative movement always being lectured by left-wingers about how we're an evil country because we had chattel slavery in the 1600s, 1700s, 1800s, which we agree. 0.99
00:14:32.000 Slavery is evil.
00:14:34.000 But this is slavery, is it not?
00:14:36.000 Why is no one covering this?
00:14:38.000 And is it fair to say, James, that this is a form of slavery?
00:14:42.000 I think the unaccompanied children aspect of this, the half a million children in three years, people don't realize unaccompanied migrant immigrant children are being housed in facilities that no one has ever heard of.
00:14:55.000 Sunny Glen facility, Southwest Keys.
00:14:58.000 Most people don't know these places even exist.
00:15:00.000 They're secret.
00:15:00.000 We actually snuck into these places, Charlie.
00:15:03.000 Snuck in.
00:15:04.000 And you might say, why isn't anybody else doing that?
00:15:07.000 Well, it's dangerous.
00:15:11.000 Maybe my colleagues are either brave or insane or both.
00:15:16.000 I don't know.
00:15:17.000 Lawyers cautioning us you might get prosecuted.
00:15:20.000 So it's scary work.
00:15:22.000 It's dangerous work.
00:15:23.000 People don't want to shake the apple cart.
00:15:25.000 And also, Charlie, journalism, by and large, there's not a lot of money in it.
00:15:30.000 It's tough.
00:15:31.000 Investigative work, you take months to do this work.
00:15:34.000 There's no really reward in it.
00:15:36.000 You get sued, you might get jailed, you might get shot.
00:15:40.000 For all these aforementioned reasons, people choose not to do it, but we did it.
00:15:44.000 And I think the film is... I think this one is gonna be... I think this might change things.
00:15:49.000 How do people... so explain the Tucker partnership.
00:15:52.000 Yeah, I mean, so we made the film and Tucker, TCN, which is... and I think Tucker's got a massive presence and a massive name.
00:16:00.000 He's going into long-form programming, so, you know, much like in Netflix, so...
00:16:05.000 TuckerCarlson.com slash line in the sand is where you can stream the film and we have an exclusive deal with him for 60 days So that's where you can watch the film and then it'll go wider wider after that We have a premiere next next Tuesday and in in Los Angeles and we'll have a few theatrical events around the country But right now it's through Tucker exclusively and for independent and swing voters.
00:16:28.000 Why is it important?
00:16:29.000 They see this film?
00:16:30.000 I think the first step is recognizing that there is a problem and the nature of the problem.
00:16:36.000 And I don't think this film is a political film, Charlie.
00:16:40.000 I'm an artist and I focus on telling a story through a different type of lens.
00:16:46.000 I don't think this film is... if anything, it comes from a bleeding heart perspective.
00:16:51.000 Like, when I was with the Venezuelans, I was... it changed me. 1.00
00:16:57.000 It's... I think there needs to be a secure border.
00:16:59.000 I think they need to go in legally.
00:17:01.000 But I saw it as a humanitarian issue, and I think if people understand the nature of the issue, And I think that it'll affect people who are on the left.
00:17:11.000 I mean, there's going to be extreme forms of people, but I think on the peripheral aspects, I think it'll affect and change hearts and minds.
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00:18:25.000 Let's play the trailer here.
00:18:26.000 Anything you want to say before we play the trailer, James?
00:18:28.000 No, go ahead and play it.
00:18:29.000 It must speak for itself then.
00:18:31.000 Play cut 66.
00:18:34.000 We got an unaccompanied minor right here, guys.
00:18:37.000 This is heartbreaking right here.
00:18:39.000 See the handcuffs?
00:18:41.000 Those criminals are being put with the kids?
00:18:42.000 Yep.
00:18:43.000 They're putting the criminals with the kids.
00:18:48.000 Does sacrificing your value system and integrity to feed your family make you a bad person?
00:18:54.000 They're putting blinders on right now to stop us from seeing what's happening.
00:18:58.000 There seemed to be an internal struggle between doing what people perceived as the morally right thing and pursuing their livelihood.
00:19:06.000 You can't move 500,000 children in three years if you're asking a lot of questions.
00:19:13.000 Maybe it's all just human nature.
00:19:16.000 Every single agent knows deep in his heart what's going on is wrong.
00:19:20.000 Where are you going? You're very upsetting. Get right there!
00:19:23.000 Get down! We're in a secret facility right now. It's just all about money. There's a cut right there. They've got ladders.
00:19:31.000 It's not about people. How much money are you making off of this crisis? A billion dollars. Every single agent knows
00:19:39.000 deep in his heart what's going on is wrong. I know you're just trying to do your job. We're taking children
00:19:45.000 We're then delivering them to people who they don't even know.
00:19:55.000 What's happening inside that facility?
00:19:58.000 They all protect each other.
00:20:02.000 The NGOs.
00:20:03.000 They got some spotlight on us.
00:20:04.000 The federal government.
00:20:05.000 This is dangerous.
00:20:06.000 I don't think we can trust anybody.
00:20:09.000 America, we made it!
00:20:10.000 I'm the king of the world!
00:20:12.000 Follow the journey of the immigrants.
00:20:14.000 I can't do this, guys.
00:20:15.000 The journey of the children.
00:20:17.000 Oh, this is big time.
00:20:19.000 We're in a cartel tunnel now, dawg.
00:20:20.000 We're in a cartel tunnel.
00:20:23.000 And the journey into human nature.
00:20:26.000 Some things can't be read in a book or a newspaper.
00:20:29.000 They must instead be lived. 0.97
00:20:32.000 There's nobody here to stop this.
00:20:34.000 There's nobody.
00:20:38.000 Wow.
00:20:38.000 Any thoughts there, James?
00:20:40.000 I have lots of questions.
00:20:42.000 Go ahead with the questions, and then we'll get into it.
00:20:44.000 Someone said they're making a million dollars off of this?
00:20:45.000 What was that all about?
00:20:46.000 Yeah.
00:20:47.000 That was one of the guys in New York City who has given fake residencies out to illegal immigrants and making money off of it, making $1,100 per individual.
00:20:56.000 And the individuals that he was taking advantage of in the film come forward from Ecuador and tell us he's a fraud.
00:21:03.000 So we caught some people on hidden camera doing some illegal things in this movie.
00:21:07.000 And it's pretty, it actually is shocking.
00:21:10.000 I wouldn't say it's surprising, I think it's shocking.
00:21:13.000 So how much money is being made on this?
00:21:16.000 I mean, big, big money.
00:21:19.000 For example, in Texas, Health and Human Services is a trillion-dollar agency.
00:21:24.000 I know you know that, but maybe your audience doesn't know the extent of it.
00:21:27.000 Tara Rodos is a whistleblower at HHS.
00:21:30.000 Trillion-dollar agency funding all these facilities to house all these children.
00:21:35.000 And the people in the movie tell me, it actually kind of is surprising they say these, maybe I'm really good at my job, maybe I got lucky, I don't know.
00:21:43.000 We need the children to keep coming so that we can keep making money.
00:21:48.000 They actually say this.
00:21:49.000 It's like, but don't you have a conscience?
00:21:51.000 Like, don't you worry?
00:21:52.000 It's like, no, we need the people to keep coming across.
00:21:55.000 And we're talking bus companies, Damaris company, GS4.
00:21:59.000 I never even knew these companies existed.
00:22:01.000 So many companies.
00:22:02.000 One company in California making $100 million transporting all these illegal immigrants. 1.00
00:22:07.000 So I wanted to name names.
00:22:09.000 And the guy in New York there, in Astoria, stamping forms.
00:22:14.000 I went undercover as a Ukrainian immigrant.
00:22:17.000 Stamp in the form, James O'Keeffe, here's your free residency, here's your free bracelet.
00:22:23.000 On the American side?
00:22:24.000 This is in New York City.
00:22:26.000 I went into Roosevelt Hotel, which is in Manhattan, and they gave us a free bracelet, a free plane ticket.
00:22:31.000 This is a joke.
00:22:34.000 This is a national disgrace.
00:22:36.000 Wait, let me just pause you.
00:22:38.000 So you pretended to be a Ukrainian immigrant and you got a free hotel room and free flights. 0.66
00:22:44.000 Like Borat.
00:22:45.000 But Americans couldn't go on vacation this summer because things are too expensive.
00:22:50.000 That's right.
00:22:51.000 The Roosevelt Hotel near Times Square, I went in there, they gave us this bracelet with a number And in a post 9-11 America, a guy can just walk in there, get a free flight.
00:23:02.000 They even gave us, you know, our facility in New York City, Randall's Island, they even gave us an ID.
00:23:07.000 So it's like, I mean, it's one thing to talk about it, it's another thing to see it.
00:23:15.000 So we trace the origin in the film.
00:23:17.000 My vision was to go from origin, that's Iroquois to Mexico, that's where they all come, get on the train, the freight train.
00:23:24.000 All the way to New York City.
00:23:26.000 We cross with them.
00:23:27.000 We go to San Diego into the parking lot.
00:23:29.000 When you cross with them, did you cross as an American? 0.82
00:23:32.000 This was the people I rode the train with.
00:23:34.000 We put cameras on them and they went through the fence.
00:23:36.000 How did you cross?
00:23:37.000 Well, I was detained by the Mexican army and I put a hidden camera in my watch and recorded all of it.
00:23:44.000 Some of this you gotta watch the film.
00:23:45.000 But did you claim asylum when you came across?
00:23:47.000 Well, eventually my cover was blown, and I'm from the Estado Unidos, so I was detained by the Mexican authorities.
00:23:54.000 And I could have been killed.
00:23:57.000 And what they crossed in El Paso, in the New Mexico area, actually through a graded wall.
00:24:03.000 Charlie, we put audio devices on the fence to listen to the cartel talking to each other.
00:24:09.000 You actually get to hear what they say.
00:24:12.000 What did they say?
00:24:13.000 They talked about how they need to make money.
00:24:15.000 Yeah, of course.
00:24:16.000 See, people think there's this big conspiracy, and there might be, but the bottom line is that at the end of the day, it's all about money.
00:24:27.000 And we're talking big, big money.
00:24:29.000 Tens of billions.
00:24:30.000 And how are we going to take all that money away from people?
00:24:32.000 In Mexico, they assassinate people if they try to hold the cartel accountable.
00:24:37.000 I think in this country they use leverage against people if they try to hold anybody
00:24:41.000 accountable.
00:24:42.000 So it requires extreme courage from a select few.
00:24:46.000 And that's what the film is really about.
00:24:47.000 And when you get to the ending of the film you better bring your Kleenex because you're
00:24:49.000 going to cry when you do see the men who stand up.
00:24:55.000 Very brave people.
00:24:56.000 And it makes you question the purpose of life and the purpose of materialism.
00:25:02.000 The line that we all have to draw, as Scholz and Eatson said in Gulag Archipelago, where
00:25:10.000 do you draw the line?
00:25:11.000 Do you choose your conscience or do you choose your livelihood?
00:25:14.000 These are very deep questions that I explore.
00:25:18.000 So this is important.
00:25:19.000 I hope you get this.
00:25:20.000 It seems as if in the trailer you really pinpoint this and I want the audience here to email me freedom at charliekirk.com your thoughts and your opinions.
00:25:28.000 Do you think that the majority of Border Patrol agents are good and admirable people when they say I'm just doing my job and they're processing how many hundreds of thousands Oh, God.
00:25:39.000 I mean hundreds of thousands. Hundreds of thousands of girls and young kids into prostitution. 0.99
00:25:45.000 Is the Border Patrol blameless? Should we hold them accountable? Should we treat them,
00:25:51.000 you know, nicely? Email me freedom at charliekirk.com. Are they victims? Are they just
00:25:58.000 bystanders or bystanders? Or should we hold them higher?
00:26:01.000 James, I'm guessing in the documentary, it seems that that is a theme that you kind of laced into, is, okay, yes, we can blame the cartels, but why are American Border Patrol who swear an oath, why are they getting a free pass?
00:26:15.000 In many ways, it's human nature.
00:26:17.000 Like you said, people are followers.
00:26:20.000 There's one scene in the film that really struck me.
00:26:23.000 Where there's a Portuguese guy standing, he's got tatted up, dangerous looking guy, and he's standing right in front, about 100 meters in front of a border patrol car, with two guys sitting in it, and they're just sitting there watching him. 0.59
00:26:36.000 And I say, and the guy goes, and he says in Portuguese, I got a translator, he says, I want to be detained.
00:26:41.000 I want to be caught.
00:26:42.000 You want to be caught.
00:26:43.000 So I bring him over to the border patrol car, and the guy's like, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.
00:26:50.000 And they get out and detain him.
00:26:53.000 And I said, he was standing there like a statue in front of you.
00:26:56.000 Why didn't you detain him?
00:26:57.000 And he goes, oh yes, thank you for letting us know he was there.
00:27:02.000 It just seemed like, I'm like, why are our tax dollars paying for all?
00:27:07.000 What is going on?
00:27:08.000 And I think these guys, what they tell me is, they just need that paycheck.
00:27:13.000 And I think that what we can do is create a movement.
00:27:16.000 I think we're gonna create a movement of 50 to 100 Border Patrol agents in lock, step, blowing the whistle.
00:27:21.000 We have a group called Citizen Journalism Foundation, which pays their legal bills, covers their attorney fees.
00:27:27.000 My vision is to get a bunch of these guys to step forward, because they can't destroy them all if they step forward.
00:27:34.000 Yeah, but where's Congress?
00:27:36.000 Why is Congress not giving whistleblower protections to all these Border Patrol agents for being... I'm not gonna name names, but you know, so I'm not naming names on the record, but some of these senators and congressmembers have told me point-blank, face-to-face, James, there's nothing we can do.
00:27:48.000 Republicans?
00:27:49.000 Yes.
00:27:49.000 Yeah, of course.
00:27:53.000 Somebody said something in the trailer that I think was the most powerful line.
00:27:57.000 You can't get 500,000 kids into the country without help.
00:28:02.000 So, Tara Rodis said in the film, mic drop moment, you can't move 500,000 unaccompanied immigrant children in three years if you're asking a lot of questions.
00:28:17.000 Her point was, and we talk about this in the film, it's a liability for the Biden administration They don't poke around this issue.
00:28:29.000 They're putting unaccompanied children into sponsors' homes.
00:28:33.000 What is a sponsor?
00:28:34.000 Unlike the system we have for children in America, they don't even ask if these people are criminals.
00:28:44.000 They don't ask if they're legal.
00:28:46.000 So these kids are being raped, they're being pimped out, and you can't ask questions about it, Charlie, because it slows the process down.
00:28:53.000 But the Border Patrol agents don't ask questions either?
00:28:56.000 They're processing people.
00:28:56.000 They can't.
00:28:58.000 All they do is process people.
00:28:59.000 There's nothing they can do.
00:29:00.000 They can resign.
00:29:01.000 So basically they are facilitating... Facilitators.
00:29:04.000 The sex trade.
00:29:06.000 Yes. 0.72
00:29:07.000 Yes.
00:29:09.000 I think more highly of Border Patrol than that.
00:29:11.000 It's so sad.
00:29:12.000 Well, maybe you should rethink that after watching this movie.
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00:30:20.000 I am curious.
00:30:23.000 Should we, how do we morally gauge, judge, if you will, a person who is facilitating evil for a paycheck?
00:30:32.000 Let's play cut 41 from James O'Keefe's film.
00:30:34.000 Border Patrol agent Aaron Vecchi has been in the Border Patrol for over 19 years in Tucson sector in Ajo, Arizona.
00:30:42.000 He witnessed atrocities of immigrant children burning up in the desert heat under a makeshift canopy at the Border Patrol station at 150 North Highway in Ajo.
00:30:53.000 He witnessed children freezing in the winter.
00:30:56.000 He even captured never-before-seen videos that he provided to us, which we are publishing here.
00:31:02.000 So what's going on in those videos, James?
00:31:03.000 And then we have the interview with him, too.
00:31:05.000 Yes, that was actually not from the film.
00:31:07.000 That was the interview I did in Ajo.
00:31:08.000 That was a Border Patrol agent that blew the whistle yesterday as a result of a Border Patrol agent, Zach, who's in the film.
00:31:16.000 And this is in Ajo, Arizona, about two hours southwest of here, and he witnessed atrocities, these Illegal immigrants a humanitarian issue and his patrol agents his supervisors told him they put a boot on his neck and said you got to go do this anyway and follow our orders and he said I can't good conscience do this he blew the whistle he went to OSC they sent him a cease and desist letter
00:31:39.000 Zach, the corporate agent of the film, Charlie, has also just been sent a C-synthesis letter for appearing in the film.
00:31:45.000 So my vision is to have 20, 30, 40, 50 agents step forward, all in lockstep.
00:31:52.000 I think the only way this changes is if people all stand up together, whistleblowing in tandem.
00:31:57.000 That's what I think needs to happen.
00:31:58.000 I think it will happen.
00:31:59.000 Let's see Agent Vecchi from the Tucson Sector, play cut 42.
00:32:03.000 And what's important to me Is that when my granddaughter's old enough, and she's in high school, and she comes to me and says, Grandpa, Tata, Tata, Aaron, she says, what were you doing?
00:32:16.000 Weren't you in the border patrol back then?
00:32:19.000 I can look at her with a straight face and say, baby girl, I was trying.
00:32:24.000 I tried.
00:32:25.000 I fought and I tried.
00:32:26.000 I did my best.
00:32:28.000 You know?
00:32:29.000 And I don't, fire me, you know?
00:32:32.000 Maybe they will.
00:32:33.000 Maybe after this they will.
00:32:34.000 You know, but my conscience will be clean.
00:32:37.000 It's powerful stuff there. He's saying, fire me or retire me. He's currently employed.
00:32:42.000 He's been in the Border Patrol for 19 years. He's a tracker.
00:32:46.000 He's an amazing tracker.
00:32:47.000 Very fast walker. It's hard for me to keep up with him.
00:32:49.000 And he's saying, I care about my conscience more than my pension.
00:32:53.000 Hold on, I gotta interrupt.
00:32:54.000 Sorry, we're running out of time here.
00:32:55.000 According to the federal government, there's whistleblowers.gov, which is a congressionally chartered law that allows whistleblowers.
00:33:05.000 Have these guys gone through that process?
00:33:07.000 Yes, he has.
00:33:08.000 He was sent a cease and desist letter.
00:33:08.000 And they're ignored?
00:33:10.000 From the Border Patrol?
00:33:13.000 From the Border Patrol.
00:33:14.000 So Mayorkas sent a cease and desist letter. 0.97
00:33:18.000 He's the commander in chief.
00:33:19.000 Yes.
00:33:20.000 He's the CEO of that agency.
00:33:22.000 But I just, I have to wonder, like, where are the Republican leaders then stepping in and saying, we're going to protect you?
00:33:28.000 The system is systemically corrupt.
00:33:30.000 Everything is broken.
00:33:31.000 And the only way to fix it is for people to do what these guys are doing.
00:33:35.000 That's what they're telling me.
00:33:36.000 They went to the Office of Special Counsel.
00:33:37.000 They were still sent a cease and desist letter.
00:33:39.000 The only solution that I can see is for all of these border patrol agents to come forward, be courageous.
00:33:46.000 We're all going to die.
00:33:47.000 The question is, what is your price?
00:33:50.000 And at the end of the day, you've got a few brave men here leading the way.
00:33:53.000 And I think other people will follow.
00:33:55.000 The emails are overwhelming here.
00:33:57.000 The audience says you are not innocent if you are participating in this, and I think that's really the through line of your film, is to try to prompt everyday Americans to no longer be okay with just cashing a check while seeing evil.
00:34:11.000 Is that fair?
00:34:12.000 That's exactly right.
00:34:13.000 And that seems to be a pattern of your life's work.
00:34:14.000 That's a pattern of my life's work.
00:34:16.000 That's what I've had to live through.
00:34:17.000 That's what I've witnessed.
00:34:18.000 I haven't faced it the way they have faced it in different ways.
00:34:21.000 And your price has to be your life.
00:34:22.000 If your price is not your life, then I guess you're for sale.
00:34:25.000 And are you okay with being for sale?
00:34:27.000 Is your integrity for sale?
00:34:28.000 Where do you draw that line?
00:34:29.000 These are tough questions.
00:34:31.000 These are the questions I explore in the film.
00:34:33.000 And I think it's going to shake people awake.
00:34:35.000 And I know there will be more Border Patrol agents like Aaron, Becky, and Zach.
00:34:39.000 Stay tuned.
00:34:40.000 I was only doing my job, is what many people will say.
00:34:43.000 That's what they say in the film.
00:34:45.000 Yeah, that's a biblical concept right there.
00:34:48.000 That's a tale as old as time.
00:34:50.000 And this is the crossroads in American history right here, right now.
00:34:53.000 There's no place you'd rather be.
00:34:55.000 And this is my braveheart speech.
00:34:57.000 When you have your pension many years from now, and you're tucked in your bed, and you're nice and comfortable, what would you give for just one chance to go back to October 2024?
00:35:05.000 and stand up and, oh, I have children, I have grandchildren.
00:35:08.000 I respect that.
00:35:09.000 Maybe your children will respect you more if you were a man and you did the right thing.
00:35:13.000 Maybe your children would actually respect you more.
00:35:16.000 I'm not even sure you're gonna have grandchildren the way this country is headed, Charlie.
00:35:19.000 Yeah, and God willing, we win the election in November and all these guys then could be directed
00:35:23.000 to do virtuous things.
00:35:25.000 That's right.
00:35:26.000 That's possible too.
00:35:27.000 And I think a lot of them are banking on that.
00:35:29.000 I think a lot of them are hoping and praying that Trump wins and that they'll be empowered to do the right thing.
00:35:34.000 You gotta praise if it depends on God and act if it depends on you.
00:35:38.000 Okay everybody, what a great film.
00:35:39.000 Line of the Sand.
00:35:40.000 Check it out.
00:35:41.000 Tell your friends.
00:35:41.000 James, God bless you.
00:35:42.000 We're behind you 100%.
00:35:43.000 Thanks so much for listening everybody.
00:35:45.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:47.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:35:49.000 God bless.