The Charlie Kirk Show - The Live Free Tour Santa Barbara—LIVE from UCSB with Q&A

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00:00:27.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:29.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:31.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:34.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:38.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:39.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:40.000 His spirit is love of this country.

00:00:41.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:48.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:57.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:00.000 Thank you, everybody, for being here.

00:01:01.000 And we actually had to turn people away, and that's a bad thing.

00:01:06.000 But honestly, you know, they say there's no conservatives on college campuses, but we've got to get a bigger room next time.

00:01:12.000 So that's a big deal.

00:01:17.000 I want to thank the university.

00:01:19.000 I make, let me just put it this way.

00:01:22.000 I have a tendency to be rather harsh on colleges.

00:01:27.000 And UCSB has been welcoming and has been helpful.

00:01:30.000 And they deserve, well, I'm being very fair.

00:01:36.000 And thank you guys for the help that you've offered.

00:01:38.000 And we're here tonight.

00:01:39.000 So they deserve applause for that, okay?

00:01:46.000 And the second thing, before we get to my main contention, and we can have fun, and anyone who disagrees can go to the front of the line, and we'll have lots of questions, and it'll be great.

00:01:57.000 I want to comment on the time I spent out in the main quad area today.

00:02:02.000 I appreciated the respect of most of the students that were there.

00:02:04.000 For those that don't know, set up a table there for two hours, talk to students.

00:02:08.000 Very smart kids, I have to say.

00:02:10.000 Some of the smartest actually that I've had a chance to talk to.

00:02:14.000 Misled on a lot of topics, and maybe that'll manifest tonight, but generally very respectful.

00:02:19.000 It gave me hope that people can see the world completely differently.

00:02:22.000 Started a little bit heated, and then from there, it was interesting to kind of explore a lot of different ideas and topics, especially things you're not allowed to talk about.

00:02:33.000 And my goodness, you know, you got the apparatchiks outside.

00:02:36.000 By the way, they're more than welcome to come inside and ask questions and have dialogue.

00:02:40.000 But it's really interesting as they, you know, heckle at themselves and make themselves feel good while we actually are trying to find things we agree on or at least have clarity over agreement, right?

00:02:50.000 Clarity would be nice.

00:02:52.000 The way what they want for America, yeah, that's going to destroy the country.

00:02:56.000 Speech, even albeit with disagreement, this is what makes America the greatest nation ever to exist in this world.

00:03:07.000 And isn't it telling?

00:03:11.000 It's, you know, they say fascism and all that stuff.

00:03:14.000 It's hilarious.

00:03:15.000 You know, the last time I checked, the people that are a fascist are usually the ones that spend their evenings trying to prevent other people to speak.

00:03:23.000 If our ideas were so terrible and did not resonate and were so bad, why do you have to spend your time screaming like a crazy person outside?

00:03:32.000 Maybe you should just pull up a chair and you might learn something.

00:03:35.000 But obviously, at the root of radical left-wing activism, at the root of radical left-wing activism, albeit at age 18, 19, or 20, is complete confidence you figured out the world.

00:03:48.000 And that's what they have, right?

00:03:50.000 They have figured it out.

00:03:51.000 I know right from wrong.

00:03:52.000 If there isn't even right for wrong, I'm right, and this person's totally evil.

00:03:56.000 And that actually creates, that robs you of all joy.

00:04:00.000 Now, there are things that are true.

00:04:01.000 We're going to talk about them tonight.

00:04:03.000 But you should also just be immensely curious in life.

00:04:07.000 And American colleges have gone away from this in some sense.

00:04:12.000 And I think it's still a fringe minority.

00:04:14.000 I sure hope so, because I have a lot of hope, especially based on the conversations I had today.

00:04:19.000 But when you're 18, 19, 20, or 21, obviously it's predominantly liberal with the professors and the curriculum and all that.

00:04:25.000 But if a conservative comes on campus, if your default position is to go get a microphone and just scream, then that is the death of all curiosity.

00:04:34.000 Maybe you aren't as smart as you think you are.

00:04:36.000 Maybe.

00:04:38.000 There might be something you hear, and if not, then you'll be only reconfirmed how smart you actually are and how much you figured out the world.

00:04:46.000 But it's very interesting, and I want to just shout out our amazing Turning Point USA students because, and they deserve so much credit.

00:04:53.000 They really do.

00:04:57.000 Our Turning Point USA students, they have to go through something every day that most liberals do not have to do.

00:05:05.000 They have to actively defend their position as being an ideological minority in a hostile environment.

00:05:13.000 Some liberals have to do that to their credit.

00:05:15.000 Not all.

00:05:16.000 Most do not.

00:05:17.000 Most are able to be comfortable in their arrogant political positions.

00:05:23.000 What I have found is that young conservatives, because they're in the ideological minority, they have to be really good at defending their arguments.

00:05:31.000 They have to know the counter-arguments.

00:05:33.000 They have to know the nuance.

00:05:34.000 They have to be able to cite the studies.

00:05:36.000 And I actually think that is a really good thing for the health of the long-term conservative movement.

00:05:42.000 Now, minus numbers, like, okay, there might be more young people on the left, totally.

00:05:46.000 But I can say this: that the young patriots of Turning Point USA, or just young conservatives in general, you are more prepared to be able to defend your positions, to be able to go into a world where you're not always going to be accepted for your worldview.

00:06:01.000 That means you're tougher.

00:06:02.000 And that's a good thing.

00:06:04.000 If you graduate college as a tougher person than you entered, then that's great.

00:06:09.000 But the question should be: are the people outside going to graduate tougher than they entered?

00:06:13.000 No, they're going to graduate more fragile.

00:06:16.000 And if you allow young people to stay fragile, they will not just be unhappy, but they're constantly going to be looking for somebody to shut up and somebody to blame, or some institution, some movement, some ism to blame. 0.55

00:06:34.000 And there is some people to blame in society for sure.

00:06:37.000 However, the most important lesson, and I wish it was taught in every college repeatedly, is the biggest person to blame for your problems is yourself.

00:06:45.000 Is that it's your decisions, your agency.

00:06:48.000 Yes, things, bad things can happen to you, but you will end up leading a much better life and flourish if you end up realizing that I am going to take responsibility for my own actions.

00:06:59.000 If I'm not happy, it's because of something I'm doing.

00:07:02.000 It's not because of capitalism or whatever nonsense.

00:07:05.000 Okay, so the sign I had out today was interesting.

00:07:09.000 It definitely attracted attention.

00:07:10.000 It's true, and I believed it, and I still believe it.

00:07:13.000 But it got me thinking of what do I want to talk about tonight.

00:07:16.000 And the sign I had is that transgenderism is a delusion. 1.00

00:07:20.000 And that was my sign.

00:07:22.000 And do we still have the sign somewhere?

00:07:26.000 I'm happy to sign it, by the way.

00:07:31.000 And it's totally true, obviously.

00:07:32.000 I mean, just thinking you are something because you wish it to be does not make reality change or comport to your will, unless you're an unbelievable egotistical narcissist and you think everything should realign because you suddenly wake up and think, I want nature to change.

00:07:48.000 Like, yeah, you actually didn't create nature, and maybe you should get back in alignment with biological reality.

00:07:53.000 Despite that, though, I was actually really curious of what is the Merriam-Webster definition of a delusion.

00:08:03.000 Because I use that word, and I think we could all kind of come up with our own definition.

00:08:07.000 A delusion is a false belief or judgment about external reality held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, occurring especially in mental conditions.

00:08:23.000 And I think we have a lot of delusions in America right now.

00:08:27.000 Not just delusional people, that is true, but delusions that we are believing, where despite incontrovertible proof, despite what is in front of us is so clear, we believe something that is the opposite.

00:08:41.000 Now, there's a lot of reasons why that happens.

00:08:43.000 And the number one reason why this happens, which is why I decide to go to places that I'm not always welcome, is one of the reasons why we are allowing delusions to be institutionalized is because people who know different do not speak out against this obvious mirage, this veneer, this falsehood.

00:09:03.000 Is that one of the things I hope to do tonight is to inspire you to be able to say that's not true.

00:09:10.000 That's not true.

00:09:12.000 This is what is true.

00:09:13.000 I believe at my core, a vast majority of Americans think it is preposterous that men can become pregnant.

00:09:22.000 I know that most Americans don't believe that.

00:09:25.000 Now, most kids that you see at this school, I have no idea.

00:09:28.000 I bet it would be a coin flip probably in one direction.

00:09:30.000 They say, well, it depends if it's translated.

00:09:32.000 Honestly, you're overthinking it, okay?

00:09:36.000 Way overthinking it.

00:09:38.000 College, where you go to pay a bunch of money and go into debt to overthink the obvious.

00:09:43.000 More wisdom in the American plumbing community than most PhDs in America.

00:09:46.000 That is true.

00:09:47.000 Not knowledge, wisdom.

00:09:50.000 Big difference.

00:09:53.000 What is the difference?

00:09:54.000 Knowledge is a bunch of facts.

00:09:55.000 Wisdom is the knowledge of things that do not change.

00:09:58.000 Wisdom is how you build a decent and good society.

00:10:03.000 Knowledge, you can have all the knowledge in the world.

00:10:05.000 Really evil societies have a lot of knowledge, but they generally don't have a lot of wisdom.

00:10:09.000 The most important thing of wisdom that I think you can have societally is that there is a God and you are not him.

00:10:15.000 Pretty simple, pretty obvious.

00:10:16.000 You could build a whole civilization around that.

00:10:19.000 So, under this premise that we're living under a false belief or judgment on external reality, held despite incontrovertible evidence, to the contrary, occurring especially in mental conditions.

00:10:32.000 What are some delusions that we should talk about?

00:10:35.000 I mean, I'll talk a little bit about the trans one if you guys want.

00:10:37.000 It seems to really animate people.

00:10:39.000 It's very simple.

00:10:40.000 I don't think we need to overthink it, but I'm happy to.

00:10:45.000 But one that caught people's attention today that I think is really important is this delusion, this lie, that America is somehow systemically racist.

00:10:54.000 And we've allowed this cancer, this idea pathogen, to go so far into our institutions.

00:11:02.000 Not only is this not true, the opposite is the truth.

00:11:06.000 We are the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:11:17.000 And the evidence is so over, again, incontrovertible evidence.

00:11:23.000 Well, Charlie, what's your evidence?

00:11:25.000 If America was so unbelievably systemically racist, why do so many racial minorities want to do whatever they possibly can to come into this country? 0.96

00:11:33.000 There are more blacks that have immigrated to America since 1980 than were ever brought immorally in the slave trade, just since 1980.

00:11:42.000 If you have a question, there will be an ample opportunity for you to speak your mind.

00:11:45.000 And I didn't understand a word you said, but I'm glad you're here tonight.

00:11:48.000 You might learn something.

00:11:49.000 Thank you.

00:11:50.000 So which is America is the only, this is so important, we're not the only multiracial, multi-ethnic, multilingual country.

00:12:04.000 We are the only one that has a core idea that the melanin content in your skin does not determine your moral worth.

00:12:13.000 And in fact, and in fact, there are people trying to change that.

00:12:22.000 The people trying to change that are largely, they have infested our major institutions and come from college campuses. 1.00

00:12:30.000 And you could call it critical race to code whatever you want.

00:12:33.000 We could talk about that later.

00:12:34.000 However, the promise of America as being fulfilled when I was a kid, and many of you remember a country, we didn't talk about race all the time.

00:12:42.000 And here's the one thing that I do want to just mention on this whole race topic that I think is so important.

00:12:47.000 Again, not only are we not systemically racist, we're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world, is that the people that are doing a lot of damage to our society would love nothing more than for us to talk about fringe racial ideology all day long, rather than why is it harder than ever for college kids to be able to own homes.

00:13:09.000 That's a serious question, right?

00:13:11.000 The reason is that there's a legitimate class war happening in America.

00:13:15.000 And this should resonate with some of the lefties if they're honest in this room.

00:13:18.000 But they want to try to throw a smokescreen grenade to have you talk about race all the time instead of the fact that BlackRock is going and purchasing single-family homes to rent it back to you.

00:13:30.000 That's not good.

00:13:35.000 In fact, it is not just a distraction.

00:13:38.000 It's an excuse for these corporations to get away with it. 0.77

00:13:42.000 BlackRock thinks they're untouchable because they have 300 black lesbians in some diversity, equity, inclusion department or whatever they have, and they give money to the right social justice warrior causes when in reality, they're making anybody under the age of 30, it will be nearly impossible for you to achieve the same American dream of owning a home and building material wealth. 0.67

00:14:03.000 They're not the only one to blame, but boy, I would love to have bipartisan hearings on that instead of systemic racism, police brutality, nonsense.

00:14:11.000 How about this?

00:14:12.000 The fact that young people can't own stuff anymore, that's a crisis.

00:14:16.000 Systemic racism is numbered.

00:14:26.000 And it's so bad because when you actually dive into it, it comes down on a lot of different ways where it tries to disempower people from either taking responsibility for their own actions.

00:14:40.000 And you're talking about the fact that fathers are no longer present in many black homes in America.

00:14:46.000 75% now are in single-family homes or single mother homes, which is a tragedy.

00:14:52.000 And instead, we talk all of our time talking, we spend a lot of our time talking about, at least in the propaganda networks and social media and the corporations, on things that actually disguise us from what keeps America bound together.

00:15:09.000 And this is really important.

00:15:10.000 Like, I mean, Klaus Schwab from the Great Reset says, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

00:15:14.000 And I just want to make sure I emphasize this, that America will cease to be a country that you want to live in when you no longer have a middle class that owns stuff.

00:15:26.000 And I know it sounds so materially obvious, but they're trying to get away from self-ownership of goods and into rideshare services or communal living.

00:15:35.000 And what that really is, is a permanent corporate oligarchy under their fake woke pagan religion where you no longer have the autonomy or the agency to build intergenerational wealth.

00:15:47.000 And instead, we have to have non-stop narrative, non-stop narrative, because these corporations love it.

00:15:53.000 And by the way, the CCP loves it too, because then we take our eyes over the fact that we're actually being taken over by a foreign adversary.

00:15:58.000 Separate issue, but actually equally important, which is that young people right now, whether it be this bitter lie that you must go to college to succeed, it's not true, that you have to borrow all this money to go to college to get a job.

00:16:12.000 There's a ton of response that I have in my book, and I'm happy to talk about it.

00:16:16.000 But despite all that, obviously, you guys are in college.

00:16:19.000 I don't want to bash the college thing too much, but good luck.

00:16:24.000 So, yeah, is they're using these delusions to distract us.

00:16:32.000 And any one of the young people, either in this room or outside, that are actively promoting these delusions are not just doing harm to America, they're doing harm to themselves.

00:16:46.000 And that's where I actually have a little bit of compassion: is that, and look, driving around Santa Barbara, I can understand why kids get so into these kind of like really weird liberal ideas.

00:16:57.000 You kind of, if you live here for a little bit, I bet you can start to think that this is heaven on earth.

00:17:02.000 It's a brave new world.

00:17:02.000 This is amazing.

00:17:04.000 And it's so naturally beautiful and it's sunny every single day.

00:17:07.000 I mean, people are complaining about the weather today, like, really?

00:17:10.000 Like, it's 55 and it's raining.

00:17:12.000 And wow, that's Santa Barbara privilege, not white privilege.

00:17:18.000 That's something.

00:17:20.000 Jeez.

00:17:28.000 But I do have some compassion, which is: look, life is harsh.

00:17:32.000 Life is tough.

00:17:32.000 We know that.

00:17:34.000 We know that.

00:17:35.000 And if we're honest about actually passing down a good country to the next generation, this ideological subversion campaign that is happening in real time in our country and the people that are pushing it need to be confronted.

00:17:50.000 And the corporations know this.

00:17:52.000 Not all of them, but most of them.

00:17:53.000 It's definitely Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Goldman Sachs, BlackRock, all of them.

00:17:58.000 They know that there's actually a populist movement, probably in both sides of the political spectrum, that is ready to bubble up and ready to actually hold these people accountable and say it's probably not a good thing that we're about to enter into economic collapse.

00:18:16.000 People own nothing and are owning less and less.

00:18:19.000 Young people are in this kind of form of indentured servitude to their college. 0.91

00:18:24.000 And the biggest thing that we have to focus on is one or the other is systemic racism or the trans thing or environmentalism, right?

00:18:33.000 We talked about this today.

00:18:34.000 Happy to take questions on this.

00:18:35.000 Look, you could believe that the world is ending because of climate change.

00:18:37.000 If you do, you're more religious than I am, because that is a fascination with the unknown.

00:18:42.000 That at least I have a Bible to base my beliefs on.

00:18:45.000 Geez.

00:18:47.000 The idea of a looming apocalypse is a perfect recipe for a dictator, a despot.

00:18:52.000 Think about it.

00:18:53.000 The world's about to end.

00:18:54.000 Give me a bunch of power.

00:18:55.000 Give me a bunch of power.

00:18:55.000 World's about to end.

00:18:56.000 Remember, bad people need a crisis to be able to take your liberty away.

00:19:01.000 We learned that during COVID.

00:19:03.000 And you can believe that.

00:19:04.000 That's fine.

00:19:05.000 We'll talk about it.

00:19:06.000 97% of scientists agree.

00:19:08.000 Yeah, that's great.

00:19:09.000 And I'm curious about the 3%. 0.91

00:19:11.000 You could believe all those things, but you must equally admit, you must admit with equal time and equal footing that there's a cost to all things in life.

00:19:18.000 And if you decide all of a sudden to shut down something that works, which is the extraction and utilization of hydrocarbons that have lifted more people out of poverty than any other energy source in human history, then you're more worried about an environmental green pagan agenda than actually helping people that are in poverty and need to be able to flourish and succeed.

00:19:41.000 And that's fine, if that's your position.

00:19:44.000 They're distractions, they're delusions, and I understand people believe them with a lot of fervor.

00:19:51.000 Okay, here's what we're living through in a couple nuts and bolts, and then we'll get to some questions: is that ideology is very dangerous.

00:19:58.000 Alexander Solshenitsyn wrote the Gulag Archipelago, which was the book that brought down the Soviet Union, and he said that the atrocities, the horrors, the murders, the concentration camps of the Soviet Union was, quote, all thanks to ideology.

00:20:11.000 Bad ideas must be confronted, and they must be confronted clearly and passionately and publicly.

00:20:17.000 This is not the time to shy away from it.

00:20:19.000 I am not exaggerating or engaging in hyperbole when I say that these idea pathogens will do far more damage to America than COVID-19 ever could.

00:20:28.000 It will destroy everything that we love and that we care about.

00:20:35.000 So these are delusions.

00:20:36.000 So one of the ways that we must do it is we must confront it.

00:20:39.000 Okay, so I kind of bounced around here a little bit.

00:20:41.000 We'll get to some questions, but let me say this in closing.

00:20:45.000 I'm thankful for the ability to have dialogue and discourse.

00:20:48.000 As we get to questions here, we obviously have a fair amount of conservatives here, which I'm really pleased to see.

00:20:54.000 And Santa Barbara, I'm really pleased to see that.

00:20:59.000 But let me ask something out of the conservatives here.

00:21:04.000 If somebody who does not agree with you comes up to the microphone and says something you would deem to be preposterous, outlandish, do not boo them.

00:21:12.000 Do not throw scorn at them.

00:21:14.000 Instead, thank them for coming to an event where they can have their question hopefully answered, and hopefully do so respectfully.

00:21:20.000 I get angry when the left treats conservatives, let's say, not so well, or they act like infants, of which is a leftist, so I repeat myself.

00:21:31.000 Don't do that instead.

00:21:34.000 Instead, allow them to ask the question, thank them for being here, and maybe their mind and somebody else's mind can be changed.

00:21:42.000 The final point I'll say is this: as somebody asked me earlier, they said, Charlie, do you think you are being the most persuasive that you can be by saying transgenderism is a delusion?

00:21:52.000 I say, I don't know.

00:21:53.000 Time will tell.

00:21:55.000 But I don't just say things to be persuasive.

00:21:58.000 I say them because the spoken truth is a moral good for all to hear.

00:22:05.000 And I believe that over the last decade, watering down, cutting corners, taking the easy way out, trying to compromise with absolute institutional insanity has not brought us closer to a free society or a decent society.

00:22:23.000 In fact, I think the truth tellers having to self-censor themselves over the last decade has brought us further away from that.

00:22:30.000 And that's exactly why I'm here.

00:22:32.000 And based on the murmurs, the smirks, the condescending elitism from 20-year-olds that think they know everything, I can't wait to hear what they have to say.

00:22:39.000 Let's do some questions.

00:22:54.000 Okay, so if you have questions, line up here.

00:22:57.000 If you disagree, go to the front of the line.

00:22:59.000 Based on all of that, you guys, welcome.

00:23:01.000 You know, the most brave one of you, come to the front of the line.

00:23:04.000 Act as courageous as you seem to be.

00:23:07.000 Okay.

00:23:11.000 Okay, what's the first question?

00:23:14.000 I'll start you off with an easier one.

00:23:16.000 I just want to know: like, since you've become a father recently, has this changed at all what you are most passionate about promoting to the turning point organization and the public?

00:23:27.000 Well, first of all, thank you for mentioning that.

00:23:29.000 And by the way, if you disagree, go to the front of the line.

00:23:29.000 Yes.

00:23:32.000 They'll work on that.

00:23:33.000 So, yes, I mean, becoming a father has radicalized me.

00:23:39.000 And in the best way possible, by the way.

00:23:41.000 And it's made me, first of all, understand that what I'm fighting for is beyond even yourself, which is so important.

00:23:50.000 Secondly, it also makes me very fired up at anybody, any institution, any movement that would dare try to corrupt our children.

00:24:01.000 And it's a source of immense joy and meaning and beauty.

00:24:11.000 And it's also a source of motivation and purpose.

00:24:14.000 I encourage more young people to get married and have kids and reject hookup culture.

00:24:18.000 You'll be happier because of it.

00:24:22.000 The next question.

00:24:26.000 Hey, Charlie, how you doing?

00:24:28.000 How are you?

00:24:28.000 Good.

00:24:29.000 Good, good.

00:24:30.000 I kind of have two questions, if that's okay with you.

00:24:32.000 So the first one, I don't know if you heard this, a Florida state legislature just introduced a bill to completely cancel the Democrat Party in Florida.

00:24:40.000 I kind of want your input on it.

00:24:42.000 And second, as a film student at Cal State Long Beach, I'm kind of having thoughts about working in the film industry in Hollywood because they're all woke and stuff.

00:24:50.000 So what advice would you give for me as a film major?

00:24:53.000 So I'm not familiar with the first bill.

00:24:55.000 What was the specifics of the bill?

00:24:57.000 I just heard about it last night.

00:24:59.000 A Florida state legislator introduced a bill to completely cancel the Democratic Party in Florida.

00:25:04.000 Well, I think they're doing a pretty good job of canceling themselves in Florida.

00:25:09.000 They're in the vast minority and can't win a statewide election and seem increasingly irrelevant.

00:25:13.000 So I don't know if that's necessary, albeit comical.

00:25:17.000 As a film student and as a film student, we need you.

00:25:24.000 We need more conservatives who love America to get into the arts.

00:25:29.000 And we do.

00:25:31.000 One of the young people that have an appreciation for beauty.

00:25:39.000 And beauty is that which is perfected in being.

00:25:42.000 And one of the things that is unfortunately taught in colleges and is believed is that beauty is subjective.

00:25:52.000 Some beauty can, but there is such a thing as objective beauty.

00:25:56.000 And objective beauty, in my opinion, and in the opinion of any thinking and reasonable person, is the celebration of the divine.

00:26:06.000 It's a celebration of the abstract of love and justice and mercy and grace and forgiveness.

00:26:13.000 The best art has come from somebody realizing there's something more powerful than they are.

00:26:18.000 The worst art has come since the 1920s when secularists are either angry or ignore God.

00:26:25.000 So keep that in mind.

00:26:27.000 Thank you.

00:26:35.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:26:37.000 First of all, I want to thank you for speaking here.

00:26:38.000 I think it's important to be exposed to differing ideas, even if you don't necessarily agree.

00:26:44.000 I think that's how consensuses are reached.

00:26:46.000 So moving into my question, you mentioned that you don't think there's any institutional racism left in this country.

00:26:52.000 And I think that's a pretty strong statement that I don't necessarily agree with, especially in our justice system where the United States Sentencing Commission actually contends that black men are 19% more likely to be sentenced, have longer sentences for similar crimes.

00:27:06.000 And that's when every other demographic factor is accounted for, like age, income, I guess, area within society.

00:27:12.000 So I was wondering what you think about that, particularly because there is that imbalance, and I would regard that as institutional.

00:27:20.000 Is the quality of their legal representation factored into the study?

00:27:24.000 I'm actually, I can't speak to that because I don't know.

00:27:26.000 It's not.

00:27:28.000 So for example, if LeBron James committed a crime, he'd have pretty good lawyers, right?

00:27:33.000 Most likely, yeah.

00:27:34.000 So maybe it's an income and or legal quality point, not a race point, right?

00:27:34.000 Yeah.

00:27:41.000 Here's my contention.

00:27:43.000 My contention is the following: there are other reasons to blame disparities other than discrimination a lot.

00:27:50.000 And one of my biggest learning moments today on campus is how almost everything gets attributed to racism or discrimination.

00:27:57.000 There's a fabulous book I encourage all of you to read, it should be required reading by black economist Thomas Soule called Discriminations and Disparities.

00:28:06.000 It might be the other way around.

00:28:07.000 Disparities, whatever.

00:28:08.000 I think it is discrimination and disparities.

00:28:09.000 And he makes the argument there are hundreds of other potential explanations for not just racial groups, but smaller than racial groups, how you go locally, linguistically, and all this.

00:28:18.000 So I encourage you to look at that.

00:28:20.000 And you have to factor that in.

00:28:22.000 I don't think for a second, then you wouldn't either, that Oprah Winfrey, who has a house right down the street, if she committed a crime, that somehow she would not be able to get the best legal help.

00:28:32.000 It's not about skin color as much as it is income, which is not about race.

00:28:38.000 It's about other choices, such as is there a father in the home?

00:28:41.000 For example, if a black has a mom and a dad present, that family and that child has a higher chance of all objective facts of success, college attendance, low likelihood of committing crimes, than a white child that has just a single mother. 0.79

00:29:00.000 You see, fatherhood transcends color lines.

00:29:05.000 And what we have learned through massive macroeconomic studies is that when blacks have fathers around, not only do they succeed as much, they succeed even more sometimes than white families.

00:29:18.000 And that is my contention.

00:29:20.000 Thank you for being here.

00:29:26.000 Thank you.

00:29:27.000 I recognize you from earlier, right?

00:29:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:30.000 I kind of want to continue the conversation about climate change.

00:29:33.000 First of all, thanks for coming to UCSB.

00:29:36.000 And I was just wondering: given that you believe human beings are exacerbating climate change, shouldn't you agree that we ought to transition away from fossil fuels?

00:29:45.000 Well, no, I don't agree with that.

00:29:46.000 My contention is I don't know.

00:29:48.000 I do believe global temperatures are rising.

00:29:50.000 I'm not willing to say definitively it's anthropogenic, meaning it's human activity.

00:29:55.000 But if you connect the two, I asked the question I asked earlier: how much?

00:29:58.000 Are there any other contributing factors to rising global temperatures other than human activity?

00:30:03.000 If so, what are they, and to what degree do they factor into rising global temperatures?

00:30:07.000 But sure, you want to follow up on that?

00:30:09.000 Yeah, I was wondering how you not know whether climate change is happening when a recent survey of 88,125 climate-related studies done by Institutes of Physics cites that more than 99.9% of peer-reviewed scientific papers agree that climate change is caused by human activity.

00:30:27.000 How much?

00:30:28.000 So, how much of the global temperature rising is because of human activity?

00:30:32.000 No.

00:30:32.000 What percentage?

00:30:33.000 Is it 70%, 80%, 85%, 5%, 1%?

00:30:36.000 Because that's not what the study said.

00:30:37.000 They're saying that human activity is contributing to part of the increase.

00:30:40.000 What part?

00:30:41.000 They don't know.

00:30:41.000 That's debated.

00:30:42.000 Can I add to that?

00:30:43.000 Sure.

00:30:44.000 So, like, there's actually a statistics or a study done that suggests that climate-related disasters are eight times more likely than in the 1980s.

00:30:55.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:30:56.000 You know that we have less people dying because of quote-unquote climate-related disasters thanks to fossil fuels.

00:31:01.000 We have less people dying because of extreme exposure to cold, hurricanes, because of the advancements we have thanks to fossil fuels.

00:31:09.000 You know, this idea, it's very interesting in modern society.

00:31:12.000 We take for granted the idea of having widespread shelter, heating, or air conditioning in extreme climates thanks to hydrocarbons.

00:31:20.000 We take for granted that used to be a leading cause of death of human beings up until the 1850s.

00:31:25.000 Now, if I posit your contention, climate-related catastrophes, even though, according to peer-reviewed studies, that climate-related catastrophe death is actually at all-time low, the question is then for you, which is what would you get rid of when and what would the cost of that be?

00:31:42.000 That is the question, so please answer that.

00:31:44.000 Well, I was just wondering, like, you know, you didn't really answer my question, but I was, obviously, I can't give you like exact percentage of numbers, but I do think that we ought to transition away from fossil fuel, right?

00:31:56.000 Like, I'm not against growth or development.

00:31:59.000 I obviously agree with you that, you know, the Industrial Revolution, like, economic growth is good.

00:32:04.000 It's lifting people out of poverty.

00:32:06.000 That's obviously good, right?

00:32:07.000 But in developed countries today, where we have the ability to not damage our economy, but also benefit the environment, shouldn't we do that?

00:32:15.000 Okay, so give me an example.

00:32:16.000 What specifically would you ban?

00:32:17.000 You're king for a day.

00:32:18.000 What would you ban?

00:32:19.000 Would you ban liquid natural gas?

00:32:21.000 Would you ban nuclear?

00:32:23.000 Would you ban fracking?

00:32:24.000 Would you ban what kind of hydrocarbons would you ban?

00:32:27.000 Give me the examples, and you're king for a day.

00:32:29.000 What would you do?

00:32:30.000 Well, see, I wouldn't like straight up ban something, right?

00:32:32.000 So I'm not advocating for like, you know, just like fossil fuels.

00:32:37.000 We end fossil fuels like immediately.

00:32:39.000 That's a mature answer.

00:32:40.000 Good for you.

00:32:40.000 No, I mean that.

00:32:41.000 Because the radicals don't always say that.

00:32:43.000 Please continue.

00:32:44.000 So I'll argue for like market-based solutions, a transitional way.

00:32:44.000 Right.

00:32:48.000 Like, for example, I think in 2020, like the government funded $5.9 trillion to fossil fuel companies.

00:32:57.000 I would say that instead of investing this money, $5.9 trillion to fossil fuel companies.

00:33:02.000 That doesn't sound right.

00:33:02.000 But you might be in tax credits, maybe, or tax breaks.

00:33:06.000 Subsidies.

00:33:06.000 That doesn't sound like it.

00:33:07.000 No, that's $5.9 billion, probably not trillion.

00:33:07.000 Subsidies.

00:33:09.000 There's no way.

00:33:10.000 It's trillion.

00:33:11.000 Yeah, well, the federal budget was $3.8 trillion.

00:33:14.000 So there's no way we spent more than our federal budget.

00:33:16.000 But I'm going to help you out.

00:33:17.000 It's probably billion.

00:33:18.000 Did you say trillion or billion?

00:33:20.000 It's trillions.

00:33:20.000 Done by the International Monetary Fund.

00:33:22.000 And probably it's not...

00:33:23.000 It's not possible.

00:33:24.000 I mean, I'm sorry to...

00:33:25.000 I'm not saying just in the United States.

00:33:27.000 Oh, okay, worldwide.

00:33:28.000 All right, then that might be conceivable.

00:33:30.000 So, I mean, yeah, but anyway, so I would say instead of subsidizing these fossil fuels companies, I would say that take these subsidies to renewables and other forms of cleaner energy that would be beneficial to the environment while still pertaining to the coalition.

00:33:43.000 Fair enough.

00:33:44.000 So where do we get the cobalt to make the batteries and what do we do with them?

00:33:44.000 Last question.

00:33:51.000 No, I'm asking, where do you recommend we get the cobalt to make the batteries?

00:33:57.000 Wait, can I answer?

00:33:59.000 So like your argument is about this mining argument, right?

00:34:01.000 Like no, I'm not making, I'm asking a question, dude.

00:34:04.000 Like where do we get it from?

00:34:08.000 Yeah, so then how about this?

00:34:11.000 How and where should we dispose of the incredibly acidic, sometimes radioactive batteries that electric vehicles use?

00:34:19.000 Where should we dispose of them?

00:34:21.000 But that argument, you see, it's a straw man because you can't.

00:34:24.000 Answer the question.

00:34:25.000 I am answering question.

00:34:30.000 I am answering.

00:34:31.000 I am literally answering your questions, right?

00:34:34.000 So you're arguing about this renewable energies and their batteries and how they cause environmental harm, right?

00:34:40.000 I've asked a question.

00:34:41.000 I'm not making an argument.

00:34:42.000 What should we do with the batteries once we use them?

00:34:46.000 That's a straw man because you can't.

00:34:48.000 Strawman question.

00:34:49.000 I've never been accused of a straw man question.

00:34:49.000 That's a first.

00:34:52.000 You have an underlining premise in your question that renewable energies exist in a vacuum, but you can't do that.

00:34:58.000 That's not comparative analysis.

00:34:59.000 You have to compare renewables for fossil fuels with fracking effects.

00:35:05.000 All right, pal, how about this?

00:35:07.000 How about this?

00:35:09.000 You can't answer the question because deep down you know that cobalt-powered batteries are worse for the environment than liquid and natural gas and nuclear power.

00:35:19.000 So, you come up on here to try to virtue signal.

00:35:22.000 I love the environment, but as soon as you ask me about the incredibly environmentally inefficient, destructive, animal-killing, acidic-producing batteries, you're a strong man.

00:35:34.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

00:35:34.000 You're out of time.

00:35:36.000 Next question.

00:35:40.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:35:50.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:35:51.000 How are you doing?

00:35:52.000 I just wanted to reiterate: I think it's good that you're on campus.

00:35:56.000 I think dialogue and discourse is sort of the only way we move forward in a society.

00:36:02.000 So, before I ask my question, I just wanted to know your stance on abortion.

00:36:10.000 Yeah, life begins at conception, and that life should be protected.

00:36:16.000 So, a little bit about myself.

00:36:21.000 I'm a first-generation immigrant to America.

00:36:23.000 Welcome to the India, and in a lot of ways, considering civil rights and civil liberties, I think our constitutions speak the same.

00:36:38.000 We believe in giving people the power.

00:36:42.000 Regarding abortion in America, and you and I can disagree about when life begins.

00:36:49.000 And frankly, I don't care when you think life believes, when you think life begins, but taking a woman's right from her to choose what she wants to do with her body, when you go around campuses with the live-free banner, how guys, please, I warned you about this. 0.91

00:37:08.000 Be respectful.

00:37:09.000 Please continue.

00:37:10.000 When you tour around with a live-free banner, you are taking one of the most essential freedoms of a person from them.

00:37:17.000 And how do you respond to that?

00:37:20.000 Yeah, the baby is not free if it's murdered.

00:37:28.000 So every human being deserves a right to live free, and therefore, stronger, more developed people should use their power to protect the pre-born so that they're able to live.

00:37:43.000 But please respond.

00:37:46.000 So, my interpretation of when life begins and what life is, is the experiences that people live through.

00:37:56.000 Is it not a burden to bring a child into this world when a parent or a single mother or an expecting mother is not ready for it? 0.94

00:38:06.000 I don't think it does society any good.

00:38:08.000 I know I don't have any religious baggage to support a pro-life sort of stance, but how do you think society can benefit, can in any way benefit from bringing a child into this world who has no one to look after, who doesn't have teachers to look after?

00:38:28.000 If you were to guess, I don't want to put you too much, you're coming from a good place.

00:38:30.000 How many abortions do you think there are in America every year?

00:38:33.000 What do you think?

00:38:38.000 I go 20,000.

00:38:39.000 Yeah, about a million.

00:38:41.000 Right. 1.00

00:38:41.000 A million abortions. 1.00

00:38:42.000 So, just so everyone understands the scale of what's happening, and that's okay.

00:38:46.000 How many people are currently on the adoption waiting list in America?

00:38:53.000 You can go ahead, Anne.

00:38:54.000 So, there's twice as many people waiting to adopt than abortions we have every year.

00:38:54.000 Two million.

00:38:59.000 So, the idea of an unwanted pregnancy is not true.

00:39:04.000 Is that there's two million families waiting to adopt right now a baby that unfortunately is going to be terminated in an abortion zone? 0.66

00:39:19.000 Does that make sense?

00:39:22.000 I mean, we could stand here all night and disagree, but I think a woman or a man, I think everyone's right to choose what to do with themselves and their bodies trumps anything and everything. 0.69

00:39:37.000 So let me add, but do you admit that the baby is not her body?

00:39:42.000 It's not like getting a haircut or getting a cosmetic improvement.

00:39:47.000 There's a separate being involved, yes?

00:39:51.000 And that boils down to your and my interpretation of what that separate being is and when its life and when its life begins.

00:40:01.000 The child is inside the mother's body, and the mother needs to have the right to choose whether she wants to go through. 0.97

00:40:08.000 Why does the location of the being matter to its moral worth?

00:40:13.000 We're not going to get anywhere if we can't agree on when the being comes into existence.

00:40:18.000 You believe that the child is born when it's conceived.

00:40:23.000 I believe a child is born when it's born, when it lives experiences.

00:40:28.000 That is a.

00:40:29.000 Lives experiences.

00:40:30.000 Wait a second.

00:40:31.000 When my baby was 26 weeks old, it would kick in familiarity to my voice, listen to music.

00:40:38.000 So experiences, I mean, and why would you draw that line?

00:40:42.000 Why not at the creation of the deoxorbonucleic acid, the DNA, when the new being's process into full and complete adult human development begins?

00:40:56.000 I wouldn't like to say that you got me dumbfounded, but I think this conversation is essential to what America is.

00:41:09.000 I agree with you.

00:41:10.000 And to see what's happened at the Supreme Court and to see how it's affected young people on my campus, young people around America, young people around the world who resoundingly disagree with what you say.

00:41:23.000 So I believe I'm not going to stand here and change your mind about this issue, but I think we're going to have to agree with you.

00:41:30.000 Yeah, just so we're clear, the Supreme Court sent it back to the states.

00:41:33.000 So how the heck did it impact anybody here at Santa Barbara?

00:41:38.000 I didn't.

00:41:39.000 I mean, abortion is not just legal, it's now a constitutional right in California.

00:41:45.000 So I'm not really tracking on that.

00:41:47.000 Secondly, I'll just say this.

00:41:50.000 You're right.

00:41:50.000 A lot of people think abortion should be legal.

00:41:54.000 Just because a lot of people think something does not make it right.

00:41:57.000 God bless you.

00:41:58.000 Thank you for being here.

00:42:04.000 I remember, is that my scene correctly?

00:42:06.000 Were you there earlier?

00:42:07.000 Yes, I was.

00:42:08.000 Welcome back.

00:42:11.000 Smart kid.

00:42:12.000 Thank you.

00:42:13.000 So I have two questions.

00:42:16.000 So I guess we'll start with the first one.

00:42:18.000 And maybe this clip was taken out of context.

00:42:20.000 Probably, but go ahead.

00:42:22.000 Like a clip on Twitter that I watched.

00:42:25.000 I actually watched the clip because most of the people who talk about it just usually they just like see a screenshot of it and then the description.

00:42:32.000 But so what you said, so you were talking about Leah Thomas undressing in a locker room in front of other swimmers.

00:42:42.000 And you were talking to one of the swimmers who was there.

00:42:45.000 Yep.

00:42:45.000 And one of the things you said was someone should have taken care of it like in the 50s or 60s.

00:42:51.000 I did say that.

00:42:52.000 To me, it kind of sounds like an incitement to violence.

00:42:56.000 Maybe that's not in the 50s or 60s, the sheriff would have gone in and arrested that pervert.

00:43:06.000 It's not a call to violence.

00:43:07.000 I don't support violence.

00:43:09.000 People decided to lie about my words.

00:43:11.000 In the 50s or 60s, the men, the fathers of those daughters, wouldn't have been able to get there fast enough because the local DA would have already indicted that philandering person for exposing himself to women for his own egocentric narcissism, weird fetish, to pretend he's something he's not.

00:43:36.000 Do you have a follow-up?

00:43:37.000 No, I think that's fair.

00:43:37.000 Yeah.

00:43:39.000 So, can I go to my next question?

00:43:40.000 Really quick, because we got a voter.

00:43:43.000 So, in relation to the study at the beginning, someone was saying that you were saying that it didn't control for quality of representation.

00:43:52.000 But if it controlled for income, which he said that it controlled for income, shouldn't that by consequence also?

00:43:59.000 Potentially, that's a good counter.

00:44:01.000 Okay.

00:44:02.000 Thank you.

00:44:03.000 Thank you.

00:44:10.000 Mr. Charlie.

00:44:12.000 Welcome.

00:44:13.000 So my question is a pressing matter. 0.99

00:44:18.000 What even is a clitoris? 0.91

00:44:22.000 Is this something proposed by the liberal media? 0.94

00:44:24.000 A fallacy.

00:44:26.000 Could you just let me know?

00:44:30.000 You represent your university exactly like I thought you would.

00:44:33.000 You've held up the reputation.

00:44:35.000 Next question. 0.99

00:44:38.000 Cocky, arrogant, and not very funny. 0.99

00:44:42.000 University of California, Santa Barbara. 0.98

00:44:44.000 Lacking wisdom, but a lot of gusto behind it.

00:44:47.000 Next question.

00:44:50.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:44:51.000 So in December.

00:44:52.000 Oh, by the way, you'll be very famous on the internet very soon, my friend.

00:44:56.000 Next one.

00:44:56.000 Thanks.

00:44:58.000 Ready?

00:44:59.000 So, in December of 2020, you tweeted that the amount of evidence is overwhelming to show the 2020 election was stolen through voter fraud.

00:45:08.000 Yep. 0.93

00:45:09.000 Now, given that Trump's own Attorney General, Bill Barr, said that the DOJ was unable to find any evidence of widespread fraud and that Trump's claims were, quote, bullshit, do you still stand by that claim? 0.97

00:45:22.000 Yes. 0.96

00:45:23.000 Why?

00:45:26.000 Well, which category do you want to dive into?

00:45:29.000 How about this one?

00:45:30.000 We know the FBI was meeting with Twitter actively to suppress stories on the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:45:35.000 Is that the way fair elections are conducted?

00:45:40.000 The word stolen implies an injustice, and I will stand by that.

00:45:43.000 Let me ask you the question.

00:45:44.000 I would like your thoughts.

00:45:46.000 Is it fair when the Federal Bureau of Investigation meets with the largest social media company, not the largest, one of the largest social media companies, to actively try to suppress a story that would hurt the Bidens and your answer?

00:45:56.000 Charlie, I'm asking you a specific question about a statement you made.

00:45:59.000 Yes.

00:45:59.000 You said the 2020 election was illegally stolen through voter fraud.

00:46:03.000 Is that true or is that a lie?

00:46:05.000 Voter fraud via social media companies, Zuckerboxes, $400 million from the Center for Technology and Civic Life, mass mail-in ballots, relaxed signature verification thresholds, an unconstitutional change to mail and balloting provisions in Pennsylvania, Maricopa County taking eight days to count ballots, Georgia having a suspicious, leaky faucet to count ballots.

00:46:05.000 Yes, it is.

00:46:27.000 Yes, I stand by the contention, and I could go deeper if you wish, but please continue.

00:46:32.000 Bill Barr, Trump's attorney general, Trump's cybersecurity chief, 42 out of 50 Republican senators, multiple conservative Republican governors, all certified Biden is the winner.

00:46:42.000 Are they all in on the conspiracy too, or are you lying?

00:46:44.000 Well, it's interesting. 0.99

00:46:47.000 I think some of them are cowards. 0.95

00:46:48.000 I think some of them hate Trump, but that actually doesn't prove or disprove your argument. 0.94

00:46:53.000 What I'm trying to get at is that the 2020 election was a drive-by shooting of the United States Constitution.

00:46:58.000 Period.

00:46:59.000 End of story.

00:47:00.000 We decided to upend traditional, bipartisan past election standards because of COVID, where we did mass mail and balloting.

00:47:08.000 We relax the singer verification thresholds.

00:47:10.000 And then, on top of that, Mark Zuckerberg illegally funded $400 million of ballot drop boxes in key battleground states that has now independently been shown that it was in 87% Democrat-controlled areas.

00:47:23.000 On top of that, we were not allowed to talk about on social media, myself included, about the smoking gun of a story that, oh, yeah, by the way, Joe Biden's own son is not just doing business with the Chinese Communist Party, but also with Ukraine, does some really weird personal stuff.

00:47:38.000 I'll just leave it at that.

00:47:39.000 That's direct election interference. 0.99

00:47:41.000 You could use every word you want.

00:47:43.000 Stolen, injustice, not fair.

00:47:46.000 Yes.

00:47:47.000 Final thought.

00:47:48.000 The media not covering stories you do not like is not voter fraud.

00:47:51.000 You made specific claims.

00:47:52.000 No, hold on.

00:47:54.000 That's not the media not covering it.

00:47:56.000 That's Twitter not allowing you to say it.

00:47:58.000 That's a completely different thing.

00:48:00.000 Just to be clear, you agree that all of the Republican senators who voted to certify the election are all in on the conspiracy?

00:48:09.000 Not in on the conspiracy.

00:48:10.000 I think some of them are gutless wonders. 1.00

00:48:11.000 I think some of them are cowards. 0.97

00:48:13.000 Some of them don't even know what they're voting for. 0.99

00:48:15.000 Look what they're doing half the time in Congress.

00:48:17.000 Here's what I will say: the American people, especially the American right, know what happened in 2020.

00:48:22.000 There was a grassroots movement that was bubbling up in the key battleground states despite COVID and all these measures, and they needed to try to put as many mail in ballots as they possibly could through the system.

00:48:32.000 They had an infrastructure due at Center for Technology and Civic Life.

00:48:35.000 And the final thing is that well over 20% of Joe Biden's swing voters said they would have changed their vote if they would have known about the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:48:44.000 You can thank Yo Roth and the Federal Beer of Investigation for the fact that that never happened.

00:48:49.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:48:51.000 Thank you.

00:48:57.000 Hi, thank you for being here tonight.

00:48:59.000 First off, I told my dad I was here and I told him I would tell you hello from Bakersfield, California.

00:49:05.000 Secondly, what advice would you give a student who is considering possibly dropping out of school?

00:49:12.000 So I'm not, look, I, as not a fan of college, you be careful because if you are you going to drop out with debt?

00:49:19.000 Are we talking about you or somebody else?

00:49:21.000 In general.

00:49:22.000 Okay.

00:49:22.000 Well, be careful because it could be the sunk cost fallacy.

00:49:26.000 But at the same point, if you're a junior and you're that close, you've already dedicated all that time.

00:49:31.000 So might as well get the piece of paper and hope it works for you, right?

00:49:35.000 So, but look, just be careful.

00:49:37.000 I'm not here to give specific advice to specific people, you know, because everybody's career path is different.

00:49:43.000 But also, if you're not studying something that you think is going to be, you know, have a lot of market viability, and if you're a freshman or sophomore, then that might be the right choice, it might not be.

00:49:52.000 But if you have a lot of passion and a lot of zeal for a very specific, you know, for a very specific industry or a very specific thing or a skill, then go for it.

00:50:02.000 College is not for all people, but it is for some people.

00:50:06.000 Thank you.

00:50:11.000 Hello.

00:50:12.000 Mr. Kirk.

00:50:12.000 Hi.

00:50:15.000 I am welcoming Booze as saying I am a Marxist.

00:50:19.000 I'm very left-leaning, but I'm here to find some common ground with you.

00:50:23.000 Your critiques of the monopolistic tendencies of multinational corporations align very closely with my beliefs as viewing the world through a class lens as being the major axis of inequality in this country.

00:50:36.000 My question is: as a member, a leader of a conservative organization that really condemns large government, how do you address this ever-growing power and these monopolistic tendencies without using the federal government and big government?

00:50:51.000 I just would love to hear that.

00:50:52.000 That's a good spirited question.

00:50:54.000 You have read your marks.

00:50:55.000 Good for you, because some people say they're Marxists and they haven't.

00:50:59.000 So, look, I think the Marxists are wrong on a lot.

00:51:01.000 We could talk about that in a second.

00:51:03.000 But the Marxists, their fascination with class is not wrong.

00:51:08.000 And there is a place where class warfare is legitimate and ugly and cruel, and that powerful people are trying to stomp on people that don't have as much as they have.

00:51:17.000 Do I think it's as plain and simple as Marx and Engels put out?

00:51:20.000 No, obviously.

00:51:21.000 That's not my position.

00:51:22.000 But I do think that a bipartisan diagnosis of kind of class issues is something that's very interesting.

00:51:30.000 I'd be curious to get your thoughts as a Marxist of why we talk about race all the time, because that will tell me what kind of Marxist you are.

00:51:37.000 But not right now.

00:51:38.000 So to answer your question, the answer, the answer needs to be to try to pursue market-based solutions.

00:51:44.000 Not be afraid to use the government to break up big monopolies like Google.

00:51:50.000 Not be afraid to use antitrust authority.

00:51:52.000 However, understand that sometimes more regulation can actually be a boon and a gift to those mega corporations.

00:51:58.000 For example, when Facebook goes and they say, hey, we want more regulation for data privacy.

00:52:03.000 No, they don't.

00:52:04.000 They want regulation that only they can afford.

00:52:06.000 So the next social media company like Rumble is not able to pay the same that they're able to pay for that sort of data hosting, lawyer fees, and all that sort of stuff.

00:52:14.000 So look, I think we can both agree, though, crony capitalism or cronyism is awful and wrong, and that entrepreneurial, bottom-up focused solutions is a beautiful thing.

00:52:26.000 Where we will disagree, though, is that if you are a Marxist, and you seem too sweet to be a Marxist, so I'll put that aside.

00:52:32.000 But is do you believe by definition in the entrepreneurial activity will result in exploitation and will result in the concentration of one person benefiting from the other?

00:52:43.000 This is where I disagree.

00:52:45.000 I think a portion of American economic activity, yes, is big companies exploiting or lying to people.

00:52:51.000 But the vast majority of economic activity happening in America is beautiful.

00:52:55.000 It's voluntary exchange of both parties benefiting.

00:52:58.000 It's the local small business serving a meal to somebody in Santa Barbara.

00:53:03.000 It's the local hotel that is able to have somebody with a great experience.

00:53:06.000 It's somebody that starts a taxicab company to be able to provide for their families.

00:53:11.000 So I think that we bash markets way too over generally.

00:53:16.000 And I would love your thoughts on that.

00:53:18.000 Do you agree that most economic activity in America is probably done voluntarily and is actually beneficial?

00:53:25.000 Not anymore.

00:53:26.000 I think because so much industry has gone overseas with certain trade agreements, usually like very large corporations that dominate employment in America.

00:53:37.000 So I don't think small businesses are doing very well, especially after the pandemic.

00:53:41.000 No, that's true.

00:53:41.000 I don't think they're doing well.

00:53:42.000 But I think still the volume of economic activity is largely not rooted in exploitation right now in America.

00:53:50.000 What do you think about that?

00:53:51.000 I agree to disagree.

00:53:53.000 Okay, got it.

00:53:54.000 So think about that, because I do think that exploitation happens, but largely, I think that there still is this amazing foundation of goodness in our markets of most people that are not trying to game somebody, but instead offer a service, and most people that are willing to trade their value, their time for that other service.

00:54:15.000 And I don't want to lose that.

00:54:17.000 And the Marxists, in its most pure sense, at the eradication of private property, we would lose that.

00:54:23.000 So let me just ask: can we agree on one thing as we close this question out?

00:54:26.000 Break up Google.

00:54:27.000 Yes?

00:54:28.000 All right, we got an agreement.

00:54:28.000 Definitely.

00:54:29.000 Thanks, Arby.

00:54:38.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.

00:54:39.000 How are you doing?

00:54:41.000 I was going to start by saying I am in my early 20s.

00:54:44.000 I don't know everything.

00:54:45.000 You're correct about that, but I know a little bit about some things.

00:54:48.000 One of those things is the climate crisis.

00:54:50.000 And so I know that commonly you want to talk about the climate hoax.

00:54:53.000 And so.

00:54:55.000 I don't know if I used that word tonight, but I probably have previously.

00:54:58.000 Yeah, I heard it tonight, but I've seen it previously for sure.

00:55:00.000 Okay, fine.

00:55:01.000 All right.

00:55:02.000 Anyways, what I was curious about is the varying studies that you refer to.

00:55:08.000 You name a lot of studies, not by name, but you reference them, saying that a lot of things show that climate is not related to anthropogenic results.

00:55:16.000 I was curious, because I know a lot of studies that are related to that, do you think that more should be looked into?

00:55:21.000 Like, we should maybe focus on this a little bit because the climate is changing.

00:55:24.000 You know, we're getting forest fires, places where there's rain.

00:55:26.000 You know, Europe's starting to cool down with the AMOC slowing, et cetera.

00:55:30.000 Yeah, I mean, we should have research in the pursuit of truth always.

00:55:33.000 But let me tell you my concern.

00:55:36.000 My concern is that people that are quote unquote in the scientific elite community, they have a pretty bad track record the last couple years.

00:55:44.000 And the people that told us that it was science to go jogging outside with a mask, or that it was science to lock kids and not put them in schools, or that it was science that the mRNA gene-altering shot they call a vaccine was safe and effective.

00:56:00.000 So that's my concern.

00:56:02.000 Maybe you can relieve me of that concern with robust, peer-reviewed, actually transparent studies and people disclosing their government funding that might be conflicting, right?

00:56:12.000 But no, and I mean that non-sarcastically.

00:56:14.000 But I do not profess to have comprehended every study out there.

00:56:20.000 I will ask the same question I asked earlier: what do you think should be done?

00:56:25.000 My answer is more exploration of hydrocarbons and more using of them, not less.

00:56:31.000 So I just asked that question.

00:56:32.000 What do you think should be done?

00:56:35.000 First things first, I would like to reference what you just said about the running with Max, et cetera, like that.

00:56:39.000 Sure.

00:56:40.000 Those are different fields of STEM fully.

00:56:42.000 I'm talking about geophysics.

00:56:43.000 Well, that's interesting because, at least from what I've seen, this kind of protection of the elite seems to have infected the entire body politic of science.

00:56:56.000 So maybe you're right, but please continue.

00:56:58.000 Meaning, it seems to have gone from epidemiology to psychology to any part of the sciences seems to kind of be in harmony of the same sort of mantras, if you will, of what I would call wokeism.

00:57:11.000 But please continue.

00:57:12.000 Yeah.

00:57:13.000 Wokeism aside, I was more just focused on the principles of physics.

00:57:17.000 If I put my hand in front of my face and I blow on it, I can feel it coming back.

00:57:21.000 And that's the same thing that fossil fuel do when they burn, release the greenhouse effect, you know.

00:57:25.000 Cause and effect, sure.

00:57:26.000 Cause and effect, exactly.

00:57:27.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:57:28.000 Anyways, as to what I think should be done, I'm 22.

00:57:33.000 Yeah.

00:57:36.000 I really respect your humility.

00:57:38.000 I wish more people had that.

00:57:40.000 Thank you.

00:57:42.000 Thank you.

00:57:46.000 Hi.

00:57:47.000 We have a joint question.

00:57:48.000 Okay.

00:57:49.000 Where is they continue to uphold the reputation of UCSB, which is to publicly make fools of oneself in front of millions of people on YouTube? 0.93

00:58:04.000 Yanks.

00:58:07.000 What did they say?

00:58:08.000 They said something that shouldn't be repeated.

00:58:10.000 But it just goes to show the juvenile, narcissistic nature because they know they can't win a debate.

00:58:17.000 So they got to go straight to sophomoric tactics and try to go to all of that.

00:58:22.000 Next question.

00:58:25.000 Hey, Mr. Kirk, hope you've enjoyed the beautiful scenery we have at Samuel.

00:58:29.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:58:29.000 I am enjoying it.

00:58:30.000 Mine isn't really a question.

00:58:33.000 Mine really isn't really a debate.

00:58:34.000 It just is a question to see what type of man you are.

00:58:38.000 I just want to know what your top five values in life are: like God, money, success, family, friends, all that.

00:58:45.000 Yeah, God, marriage, family, country, and from there, I mean, that's four or five, right?

00:58:52.000 And then probably duty, duty to other people, community would definitely be in there.

00:58:57.000 Yeah.

00:59:03.000 Okay, and following that, you said duty to your country is pretty important, and you have a pretty big following here and all around the U.S. Do you ever have any intentions of going into office with that?

00:59:15.000 No, not right now.

00:59:16.000 I'm having way too much fun doing what I'm doing right now.

00:59:19.000 And I'm told when you run for office, you have to watch your mouth, so I'd be terrible at that.

00:59:25.000 Thank you.

00:59:31.000 First of all, Mr. Kirk, thank you for being here tonight.

00:59:34.000 It's great to meet you and see you.

00:59:37.000 As a student, as a student leader here in this community and a leader with something big, and I think this is a good question for a lot of other people here.

00:59:48.000 What do you, Mr. Kirk, think the best way to practice leadership and do leadership is?

00:59:56.000 It's a great question.

00:59:59.000 Be open to criticism, which obviously you could say whatever you want to me tonight, and I think that's important.

01:00:06.000 And work harder than the people that you are trying to work harder than the people you are leading.

01:00:13.000 So be the first one in, last one out.

01:00:15.000 Try to lead by example.

01:00:17.000 George S. Patton said, lead, follow, get out of the way.

01:00:20.000 For those of you in leadership positions, the best way I had leadership described to me is the ability to effectively judge is the wrong word, but effectively be able to read people and organize them effectively.

01:00:31.000 That's what a leader is able to do.

01:00:34.000 And then tell the truth.

01:00:37.000 Tell the truth.

01:00:39.000 God bless you.

01:00:43.000 How's it going, Charlie?

01:00:44.000 Good, thank you.

01:00:45.000 I'm going to read this to you if you don't mind.

01:00:46.000 It's a question.

01:00:48.000 It seems this event is fueled on polarity on a polarity planet, which I'm a fan of.

01:00:53.000 But this question is about your intent towards the trans narrative.

01:00:57.000 I'm curious your take on the theory that the rise in gay and trans communities might be associated with the great poisoning of our physical environment, which has systematically created imbalances in testosterone and estrogen. 0.98

01:01:10.000 The chemical astrazine has been proven to turn male frogs into female frogs.

01:01:13.000 Could it be that we are intentionally being polarized and weaponized when the actual people, politicians, corporations, and institutions that have profits and toxins on their hands are laughing at the theatricality of this distraction between the religious right and the woke-wing left?

01:01:29.000 Can this divide ever be bridged?

01:01:32.000 Yes, it can.

01:01:35.000 I don't know if there's an intentional poisoning campaign going on.

01:01:38.000 What you have said is true, though, is that testosterone rates are down 80% over the last 30 years. 0.98

01:01:43.000 And to dismiss toxins is foolish.

01:01:48.000 The food we eat is not the food we ate 30 years ago. 0.95

01:01:51.000 The clothes we wear is not the clothes we wore 30 years ago.

01:01:53.000 The shampoo, the deodorant, there's a lot of toxins, aluminum, mercury hidden in our products that would just blow people away.

01:02:01.000 That shouldn't even be a political issue.

01:02:02.000 And yes, the water too.

01:02:04.000 So I don't know.

01:02:05.000 We do know that a new study just showed that blue-collar workers have 50% higher sperm counts than people that work desk and office jobs.

01:02:13.000 That's interesting, right?

01:02:15.000 So that goes to solve the fertility crisis in some ways.

01:02:22.000 So your question is: how do we go about healing it, right?

01:02:25.000 Or I'm sorry, what was your specific?

01:02:26.000 You made a smart point, but what was the question?

01:02:28.000 The question is: this polarity that's created, it doesn't seem to heal.

01:02:33.000 Polarities, you mean polarity?

01:02:36.000 Yes, not plurality.

01:02:37.000 I'm sorry.

01:02:38.000 The polarity that's being built to the forum, the polarity between men and women, the left and the right.

01:02:38.000 I misheard you.

01:02:45.000 Could this revelation of environmental toxins build empathy?

01:02:50.000 Oh, interesting.

01:02:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it should build anger, though, man.

01:02:55.000 Like, if we find out that there has been a campaign of not telling the truth and producing products to young people and all people that have incredible damaging effects to your hormones, empathy, sure, let's get mad at the people that did it.

01:03:14.000 Follow-up?

01:03:15.000 Yeah.

01:03:15.000 Yeah, basically saying that would that direct some of that anger away from the trans people who are screaming outside towards the actual people who are committing the atrocities.

01:03:25.000 Yeah, look, again, you got quite a theory here.

01:03:27.000 It might be right, might not be right.

01:03:29.000 Here's what I do know: we have to find points of widespread agreement against people that are treating us very poorly.

01:03:37.000 And I think that, I don't know, the idea that you should be able to own a home in America by the time you're 30 is something that I think 80 to 90 percent of Americans should be able to agree on.

01:03:47.000 That's what I kind of said with the BlackRock example.

01:03:49.000 But I'd have to think more deeply about your theory.

01:03:51.000 Appreciate it.

01:03:51.000 Thank you.

01:03:57.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:03:58.000 I just want to say, before I say my question, thank you for being here.

01:04:02.000 Thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak.

01:04:04.000 Sure.

01:04:05.000 You mentioned BlackRock has caused a housing crisis.

01:04:07.000 What is your solution under a conservative perspective, and why do you think liberal ideologies threaten the solution?

01:04:13.000 Without mentioning the issues of transgenderism, race, or climate change.

01:04:17.000 Okay.

01:04:18.000 So without mentioning those.

01:04:19.000 Okay, yeah.

01:04:20.000 So why do liberals threaten that?

01:04:24.000 No, what is the conservative?

01:04:26.000 Oh, yeah, okay, sure.

01:04:27.000 I think a prudent, moderate law should be if you're managing over a trillion dollars in assets, you shouldn't be able to buy single-family homes.

01:04:34.000 Like, that's pretty simple.

01:04:35.000 I mean, BlackRock controls $10 trillion, so they have purchasing power that nobody else has.

01:04:41.000 So they swoop into communities like Santa Barbara or into Oxnard or they go into Scottsdale, and they don't just buy 10 homes.

01:04:48.000 They'll buy 5,000 homes.

01:04:50.000 And it immediately increases the price, which increases your real estate taxes.

01:04:54.000 But yeah, it might increase your property value temporarily, but that also makes it harder for everybody else to go buy homes.

01:05:00.000 And then they'll rent them back.

01:05:01.000 Like, well, you might not be able to afford a mortgage or a down payment, but we'll rent it to you for $3,200 a month.

01:05:08.000 Thank you.

01:05:09.000 Or $5,000 a month.

01:05:10.000 Yes, thank you.

01:05:10.000 Sorry.

01:05:11.000 Got it.

01:05:12.000 Get my talking points.

01:05:13.000 Afflation adjusted.

01:05:15.000 Yes.

01:05:16.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:05:18.000 So I have a question on infrastructure.

01:05:20.000 Sure.

01:05:21.000 What are your thoughts on urban sprawl and failing infrastructure?

01:05:24.000 Is urban sprawl sustainable?

01:05:26.000 Or do you think roads and pipes will continue to fail and drain our city's budgets?

01:05:30.000 Is there a pattern of development of cities that you endorse?

01:05:33.000 Great question.

01:05:34.000 Thank you.

01:05:35.000 I got mocked and ridiculed last year when I said that we should stop building tall, tall buildings that are cloistered in urban centers and that we should encourage young people to go out into the farmland, into the rural areas, and build a life.

01:05:49.000 I was mocked relentlessly by the left where they said the cities are the best thing ever.

01:05:53.000 I disagree.

01:05:54.000 I think city life might be for you.

01:05:56.000 It isn't for me.

01:05:57.000 But I think stuffing people into urban cities actually, we do know it does increase depression.

01:06:03.000 We know that.

01:06:04.000 We know it increases anxiety.

01:06:05.000 We know you're less likely to own.

01:06:07.000 We know you're less likely to actually build equity in a home.

01:06:10.000 And I actually think it makes you further disconnected from the land.

01:06:13.000 And so three things that are kind of my politics that are really simple, which is more young people should get mortgages, get married, and have kids.

01:06:21.000 I think those three things would make America a much more conservative country.

01:06:24.000 And if you live in downtown LA or downtown San Francisco, yes, you can buy a home, but most young people, young professionals, they're not able to build together the down payment necessary for that, let alone the mortgage payment or the cost of living.

01:06:40.000 Their paycheck effectively disappears.

01:06:43.000 Delayed gratification and wealth creation is a moral good for all of society.

01:06:47.000 My fear is this generation is going to be the first one in recent memory that is going to be so out of grasp, and they are going to be a nation of renters, not a nation of homeowners or property owners.

01:06:59.000 And that creates a lot, creates bad politics, bad economics, and in some ways it paves the way for really, really radical Marxist ideas.

01:07:06.000 Because if you have a generation that owns nothing, they're not going to feel very guilty about taking everything away from people that do.

01:07:12.000 And I'm really afraid of that.

01:07:14.000 Thank you.

01:07:18.000 Okay, we'll do a couple more.

01:07:20.000 So the chancellor put out a call for people to inform on someone who would have written some statements on a blackboard.

01:07:30.000 And I know you're very, very pro-Israel, and these statements were critical of Israel.

01:07:35.000 Not only am I pro-Israel, I'm pro-Jew.

01:07:38.000 So I'm both.

01:07:39.000 But yes, go ahead.

01:07:40.000 Well, I can find you Jews. 0.97

01:07:43.000 I can find you Jews who are pro-Jew who would also share these same, or some of these statements that were written, from the river to the sea, meaning equal rights for everyone between the Mediterranean and the Jordan, not a faith-based theocracy that was founded on top of Christians and Muslims that were indigenous.

01:08:02.000 So that's an opinion.

01:08:04.000 Just the question.

01:08:04.000 But we don't have to agree.

01:08:05.000 No, I know, but do you know?

01:08:06.000 My question is.

01:08:06.000 You know the second part of the phrase, though, from the river to the sea.

01:08:10.000 Palestine will be free.

01:08:12.000 Yes, their idea of freedom is the obliteration of Israel. 0.93

01:08:16.000 Well, so it's not exactly free.

01:08:18.000 If Israel is an apartheid state, yes. 0.98

01:08:20.000 Equal rights for everyone.

01:08:22.000 But that's a side issue.

01:08:24.000 You can talk Israel if you want.

01:08:25.000 That's the side issue.

01:08:26.000 The question is: the chancellor asked people to inform if they knew who wrote these statements.

01:08:33.000 And whoever wrote these statements on a bullet whiteboard in a classroom, which I consider chilling.

01:08:40.000 And the sheriff's office asked for information about people passing out leaflets that were claimed to be, they were never claimed to be threatening in any way.

01:08:50.000 Like they were claimed to be hateful.

01:08:52.000 But again, who gets to be?

01:08:53.000 But hold on.

01:08:54.000 Just so we're clear, that statement is largely repeated by Hamas during death campaigns against Israel.

01:09:01.000 It's not some sort of benign slogan that is on a bumper sticker. 0.97

01:09:05.000 Just so we're clear, that Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority, is a corrupt thug. 0.98

01:09:12.000 They train this to their children and they train this to their suicide bombers. 0.98

01:09:16.000 And so I see it both ways.

01:09:17.000 I understand the free speech element, but you're just...

01:09:19.000 Please ask your question.

01:09:20.000 I want to get to it.

01:09:21.000 Yeah.

01:09:21.000 Well, I can't.

01:09:22.000 Please don't flick me off.

01:09:23.000 It makes you look bad.

01:09:24.000 Don't do that.

01:09:24.000 I'm not doing that.

01:09:25.000 Not you. 0.97

01:09:25.000 She did that. 0.97

01:09:26.000 I'm not doing that.

01:09:26.000 You're welcome to ask the question.

01:09:28.000 I can find you rabbis who agree with that statement.

01:09:30.000 Yeah, and I can find you pastors that don't believe in the divinity of Christ.

01:09:33.000 That doesn't mean anything, all right?

01:09:34.000 So you're generalizing.

01:09:36.000 We're generalizing based on someone you don't like in your characterization.

01:09:40.000 And Netanyahu is a very nice man, I'm sure.

01:09:42.000 But the point is: is this not chilling if they don't like the position and then they call for students, faculty, I don't know enough about the situation, but you have not won me over because that particular phrase is an incantation of direct Jew hatred that is used repeatedly of violence against Israel.

01:10:02.000 So you have not persuaded me to the contrary.

01:10:04.000 You just haven't.

01:10:05.000 If I concede your point, which I don't, but if I gave it to you, is it okay then for the university?

01:10:11.000 I don't know.

01:10:12.000 I don't even know the situation.

01:10:13.000 It sounds like an overreach, probably, like, but I don't know the situation.

01:10:17.000 But you haven't won favor with me with that statement because I happen to know that when rockets are descending over the Holy Land, that is repeated time and time again.

01:10:28.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:10:30.000 Thank you.

01:10:30.000 Well, we'll get to the next question.

01:10:33.000 Last question.

01:10:35.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:10:36.000 How are you?

01:10:36.000 Good, how are you?

01:10:38.000 You discussed this at last year's Western Regional Conference, but I haven't heard you talk about it since.

01:10:44.000 You gave a refreshing eye-opening take on self-love versus self-respect.

01:10:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:48.000 Can you reiterate what you said?

01:10:50.000 Because I think we'd all benefit from it, especially being part of a generation culture that's immersed in the self-love mantra.

01:10:56.000 I wish they would stick around for this.

01:10:57.000 It would be so helpful for them to hear.

01:10:59.000 Yes, the fascination with loving yourself is Gnostic narcissism. 0.59

01:11:06.000 You should have respect for yourself, not love for yourself.

01:11:09.000 You should have love for your God and love for your wife.

01:11:12.000 This idea, I read these self-help phrases sometimes where they say, my imperfections make me perfect. 0.92

01:11:21.000 Like, that's the silliest.

01:11:22.000 I mean, if you actually go through Pinterest and you read some of this stuff, instead it should be, I'm not all who I could possibly be.

01:11:29.000 Maybe it should be a challenge to oneself, not a non-stop romantic love campaign with yourself.

01:11:35.000 In fact, I think it creates more misery and more depression the more people think that they're in a romantic relationship with themselves.

01:11:43.000 You should have respect for yourself, but you should have respect enough to say that I could be more than I am today, and I'm going to delay my own immediate gratification.

01:11:52.000 And you should have love instead for the divine or for the creator, more specifically, in my view, the creator that took human form, Jesus Christ, that allows you to live forever.

01:12:03.000 And so there are, let me be clear, there's a lot of good people that are into the self-help, self-love thing.

01:12:13.000 I hope it works for you.

01:12:15.000 I have seen it do great damage to a lot of young people.

01:12:18.000 I'm going to tell you why.

01:12:19.000 When I was in seventh grade, I saw a sign that was posted all throughout our school, and it said, you are perfect the way you are.

01:12:27.000 And I asked my teacher, then I said, then why am I in school?

01:12:32.000 Why would you go to school if you were the perfect the way you are?

01:12:36.000 Instead, it should be, you have great potential.

01:12:39.000 It's a much, much better message to tell a young person.

01:12:43.000 Because as soon as you say you're perfect the way they are, they know they're not.

01:12:46.000 They put more pressure on themselves.

01:12:48.000 They're harder on themselves.

01:12:50.000 Instead, it should be a pursuit and a journey towards development.

01:12:54.000 That I am not there, but I'm going to keep on trying to either lose weight or improve my diet, stop lying, get better friends, find faith, and then maybe I can be a better version of myself.

01:13:04.000 The West was built on that.

01:13:06.000 The West was not built by a bunch of people on the Mayflower Compact saying I'm in deep love with myself.

01:13:12.000 The Declaration of Independence was not signed by 56 people that were into self-love.

01:13:18.000 It was signed by people who loved the Lord, loved their family, and loved their country.

01:13:23.000 I encourage you to do the same.

01:13:24.000 God bless you guys.

01:13:25.000 Thank you for having me here tonight.

01:13:26.000 Thank you.

01:13:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:13:33.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:13:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

01:13:41.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 05, 2023

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