00:00:53.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:27.000I'm Tom Schatz, the president of the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste, which, by the way, was created along with Citizens Against Government Waste following the release of the Grace Commission report under President Ronald Reagan.
00:02:00.000Well, S1339 would regulate pharmacy benefit managers who are used by 275 million Americans who save about $1,040 every year through the lower drug prices that the PVMs help negotiate on behalf of plan sponsors who are employees, unions, and governments, state and local.
00:02:26.000And Bernie wants to use his legislation to further increase government control over healthcare, one of the few areas of healthcare that's saving money.
00:02:35.000And of course, we know what government control over healthcare does.
00:02:47.000What is his argument to try and change this?
00:02:49.000Well, he's claiming that the PVMs don't save money, that they're out there to, you know, as quote-unquote middlemen, which they're not.
00:02:57.000They just negotiate these arrangements in a large volume, which is harder to do for smaller businesses.
00:03:05.000He would simply get into the middle of this whole process that involves the pharmaceutical manufacturers, the PVMs, the insurers, the employers, pharmacies.
00:03:18.000They set it up because it was the best way to save money.
00:03:21.000Been around since the 1960s, very popular.
00:03:24.000And it's his way of pushing more government control to eventually full government-run healthcare.
00:03:29.000And some Republicans are with him, unfortunately.
00:03:31.000And so Bernie Sanders wants the government to control more of your health care choices.
00:04:18.000So instead of lowering the cost of prescription drugs, the reform bill would raise prices on the very same people that they claim to represent.
00:04:29.000What can the people do before it is too late?
00:04:33.000Well, go to lowermydrugprices.com and you can help by sending an email to your senator.
00:04:41.000You can contact them directly, however you wish, and just let them know that you oppose S-1339.
00:04:48.000Fiscal conservatives should not be voting for anything that increases government control over health care and would raise rather than lower drug prices.
00:04:56.000You know, it's a lot like the other efforts being made to, you know, quote unquote, help people in the country, Obamacare, Inflation Reduction Act.
00:05:30.000Well, they are, for example, mail order.
00:05:33.000That's something that smaller operations can't do.
00:05:36.000And by the way, there are, I think, 65 or so PBMs around the country.
00:05:41.000There are three fairly large companies that a lot of people are familiar with.
00:05:45.000But a lot of times a drug that might not be available on your healthcare plan could be made available through the PBMs because of their large network.
00:05:54.000Some specialty drugs are involved in this.
00:05:57.000So some independent pharmacies are unhappy about this because they're not part of the network.
00:06:02.000Of course, if you have a network, everybody has agreed to abide by the same rules and take advantage of the savings.
00:06:08.000And that's exactly why these networks are set up.
00:06:22.000Help the taxpayers and help yourself by signing up and letting your senator know to oppose Bernie's bill.
00:06:28.000And just in closing, also tell us more about the Citizens for Government Waste, kind of your charter, your mission, the things that you're focused on.
00:06:36.000Citizens Against Government Waste and our lobbying on the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste, which was lobbying in this legislation, we were founded by J. Peter Grace and Jack Anderson after the release of the Grace Commission report under President Reagan, who I have the honor to meet at one of the events related to the Grace Commission and CAGW.
00:06:57.000And it's really every day that we think about carrying out the mission that he provided for CAGW and our more than 1 million members and supporters.
00:07:05.000We're taxpayers and we'd like the government to stop wasting our money and be more efficient.
00:07:24.000People are saying, Charlie, what's this whole thing with Speaker Johnson and Paul Ryan?
00:07:27.000There's been a lot of questions about that.
00:07:28.000Okay, so yesterday, before the NDAA bill, which I'm getting lots of text messages on because I texted a lot of members of Congress, Speaker Paul Ryan and Speaker Johnson were hanging out in the speaker suite.
00:07:40.000No, look, I don't want to overly fault by guilt by association.
00:08:17.000Like, it might be some technical stuff.
00:08:19.000So I'll cut him some slack here, but it doesn't look good.
00:08:22.000The day after you meet with Paul Ryan, you do exactly what Paul Ryan did when he was there.
00:08:26.000And by the way, would a phone call have sufficed?
00:08:29.000Speaker Johnson, can you just say, hey, you know, Paul, here you are walking out of the speaker's balcony, and it makes you wonder who's actually speaker of the house.
00:08:39.000Is Paul Ryan speaker or is Speaker Johnson speaker?
00:09:08.000So I'm supposed to believe after all this time off, we're going to get this triumphant consensus to cut spending within six days of January 9th to January 15th.
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00:11:29.000Speaker Johnson's buddy, Paul Ryan, play cut 100.
00:11:33.000Historically speaking, all of his tendencies are, you know, basically where narcissism takes him, which is whatever makes him popular makes him feel good at any given moment.
00:11:42.000And he doesn't think in classical liberal conservative terms.
00:11:46.000He thinks in an authoritarian way, and he's been able to get a big chunk of the Republican base to follow him because, you know, he's the culture warrior.
00:11:56.000That's Paul Ryan riffing against Donald Trump.
00:11:59.000By the way, that's just a taste of what he said on CNN.
00:15:15.000If we look at these polls too much, they're going to sneak up on us and they're going to get their low-prop voters out.
00:15:19.000This very well might also be an agenda by the news media, less about Trump and more about the Democrat base to try to get the Democrat base to go give more money, try to get the Democrat base off the sidelines.
00:15:30.000Nothing unifies or animates the Democrat base more than opposition to Donald Trump.
00:15:35.000It is the connective tissue of the American Democrat Party.
00:15:40.000I'd love to hear from you guys, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:15:43.000Do you think that Trump is up 10 points?
00:15:44.000And we're supposed to believe Bloomberg News is poll all of a sudden.
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00:19:37.000What does that do to his electability?
00:19:40.000Yeah, and just to preface this, They are telling me that this means the trial is not going to happen before the election.
00:19:48.000But, you know, my job as a pollster is to just decide what people are telling us, you know, it would do.
00:19:55.000Honestly, Charlie, his lead right now, and there's a big question about whether it's overinflated, and that's a whole other separate conversation.
00:20:03.000But his lead right now is big enough where it would basically make the popular vote very close, but it would still give him the edge in the Electoral College.
00:20:11.000And I don't want to give anybody, you know, I don't want to give anybody false hope, whatever you want to call it.
00:20:19.000But the fact is, presidential elections are A-B tests, and people are going to decide whether or not Joe Biden made their lives better.
00:20:27.000And when you ask as a pollster a question like that, it's really tainting.
00:20:35.000But when they go to the voting booth or when they send in their ballot, they're going to vote for the person they think is a better president because they have two people who served as president and have records.
00:20:45.000And that's where Joe Biden is in trouble.
00:20:47.000That's why he's, even with a felony, that's why he's in trouble.
00:20:50.000So, yeah, just to be clear, I don't mean to nitpick on words, Rich.
00:21:38.000When it comes to the cases, the DC case was the one that was politically most damning or most had the potential to be most damaging.
00:21:49.000We've asked people this before, and they tell us, you know, some people do think that they didn't like what happened on J6 and they do hold the president somewhat culpable to what happened.
00:22:02.000Whether it's fair or not, you know, is irrelevant.
00:22:25.000I mean, that's what most people think.
00:22:27.000You know, the January 6th issue, though, Charlie, does bother some people.
00:22:31.000Whether or not, you know, they'll change their mind as more evidence gets aired, as it has.
00:22:35.000You know, I mean, people, when we first polled that question, when January 6th was fresh in people's minds, it was really ugly for Republicans in the president, period.
00:22:44.000And then as time went on, it started to get more mixed.
00:24:49.000I think, you know, it's funny because after Bob Vanderplatz said that, I got a call from somebody and they told me, look, Never Back Down was supposed to build a better organization.
00:25:26.000I just think, you know, how much is up for debate?
00:25:30.000But there is, you said something that is one thing that sticks in my mind.
00:25:34.000Trump's support, he is doing great with caucus goers who have attended a caucus before, but he's romping it with people who have never been to a caucus and plan on attending a caucus.
00:25:44.000If those people are telling the truth, it's going to be historic turnout.
00:25:48.000And Trump actually could outperform because he's in the 60s with this group.
00:25:52.000If they don't show up and it's cold, folks, or if you don't know how an Iowa caucus goes, it could be snowing.
00:25:57.000It likely will be snowing in many parts.
00:26:08.000The problem that other candidates have, and I actually think there's a potential that DeSantis could bottom out in some of these suburban areas because Nikki Haley's people are going to make the case.
00:26:19.000And she just doesn't have organization to make it as well as she could, but they're going to make the case that he's doing really badly in these other states.
00:26:26.000And some of these caucus goers, Charlie, tell us they want to win.
00:26:30.000So, you know, even people who were looking for an alternative to Trump, what has helped him is this feeling or this general, you know, sense that, oh, he is electable after all.
00:26:40.000So that hurt a lot of the non-Trump candidates that were making that case.
00:26:46.000So, you know, every demographic he led by, there just didn't seem to be a lot of room.
00:26:51.000You need lower turnout if you're a non-Trump person.
00:26:54.000You need lower turnout and you need, you know, traditional caucus goers to really, you know, be the large, large segment of the caucus electorate.
00:27:05.000Even, you know, even talk brought up Bob Vanderplatz, evangelicals are just not listening to him.
00:27:10.000They're not listening to faith leaders.
00:27:12.000They want who they want and they want Donald Trump.
00:28:49.000It's a strange, it sounds like bluster.
00:28:54.000Okay, Kirk fans, I need you to stop and pay attention to this.
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00:32:04.000But there is something that's kind of accelerating here, Charlie.
00:32:07.000And it's becoming this urban rural coalition, which four years ago, I was just saying this, four years ago, I never would have thought possible.
00:32:16.000I would have told people, and I did tell people that a Republican presidential candidate is probably not going to win the popular vote for a long time.
00:32:23.000The battle will be the Electoral College, but it's not Republicanism.
00:32:58.000And that, you know, that strong partisan connection to the Democratic Party with some of these voting groups that we, you know, have not been able, Republicans just have not been able to break through that is starting to fracture and crack.
00:33:10.000And there is, you know, you can see it anecdotally, but we can see it in the polls, Charlie.
00:33:30.000I really do think, and some people disagree, but when it comes to black voters, younger black voters, I really think these indictments made Donald Trump relatable to some of these people.
00:33:39.000They've been looking at an unjust system for many years.
00:33:42.000And a lot of us didn't pay attention to it because it doesn't impact us.
00:33:45.000And now that it happened to him, they feel like they have something in common or they have or at least a common enemy, right?
00:33:51.000And then with Hispanics, this really is, to me, it's the simple answer.
00:33:57.000The Hispanics really do care about the economy.
00:34:00.000And again, as generations get older and new generations enter the political system, they have different rational policy choices and they're looking back.
00:34:31.000So one of the things I've been trying to warn about is actually how Republicans and Trump are underperforming with 70 plus voters or 65 plus voters.
00:35:37.000I always try to be fair with them, but they grew up in a very different world and have this feeling that, you know, the United States is always going to be the strongest country.
00:35:46.000It's always going to be the fairest country.
00:36:00.000They don't want, even if, even if real change requires unrest or turmoil or some kind of period of pain to change the status quo, they don't want that.
00:36:11.000They want their social security, they want their retirement, and they want to be left alone.
00:36:17.000And just a warning out there to Republicans, all of these new trends are great for you, but they're also, it's turned the world upside down.
00:36:29.000Some of the other voting groups that Republicans are doing well with now used to be Democratic voting groups and Democrats needed to make effort to get them out.
00:36:37.000So when turnout was high, they were happy because they knew they did that.
00:36:40.000Now higher turnout is going to benefit Trump, but you guys have got to get them out.