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00:01:52.000I want to get right to our guest, someone who I have an amazing amount of respect for.
00:01:57.000I read basically everything he puts out.
00:01:59.000If there's an op-ed by this man, I read it.
00:02:02.000He's kind of the senior professor of the conservative movement, and we are honored to have this great patriot with us today, Newt Gingrich.
00:02:08.000Mr. Speaker, welcome back to the program.
00:02:28.000Well, we've been working on a project that Bernie Marcus launched back in 2018, looking at the question of could you find an American majority that would be large enough and stable enough that you could really get the big things done we need to get this country back on the right road.
00:02:47.000And because of my background, both working with Ronald Reagan and then with the contract with America in creating the first Republican House majority in 40 years, we had sort of an instinct for how to do this.
00:02:59.000What's happened, of course, is that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, I mean, let's be fair, they all work together.
00:03:07.000They've created such a bad performance record at levels people feel.
00:03:13.000There was a brilliant article the other day by Selena Zito, who's one of the great students of American politics.
00:03:21.000And she said she was interviewing people in small towns in Western Pennsylvania who said to her, Look, I can't find baby formula without going to four or five stores, and I can't afford the gasoline to go to four or five stores.
00:03:36.000So Joe Biden is hitting me in every possible way.
00:03:39.000And I think what all that's doing is we have to remember, African Americans are as pocket sensitive as Latinos or Asian Americans or for that matter, Caucasians.
00:03:51.000And they're looking out there that's saying it ain't working.
00:03:54.000And the stories and the arguments are getting thinner and thinner.
00:03:58.000And they're watching more and more effective, competent African Americans rise.
00:04:04.000And so the old battle cries of the left-wing Democrats work less and less well.
00:04:10.000And I think what you've got is that you have real opportunities with probably a third to 40% of the black community, a real opportunity with 50 to 60% of the Latino community, and a real opportunity with somewhere between 60 and 80% of the Asian American community.
00:04:29.000And it's now also beginning to affect younger voters.
00:04:32.000People who initially idealistically may have thought of themselves as belonging to the Democratic Party, now they're looking at all the expenses, the lack of their ability to buy a house, the difficulty of finding a job that pays enough, et cetera, the rising crime rates.
00:04:48.000You know, if you live in a big city governed by a Democrat, the odds are pretty high that life has gotten more dangerous in the last three years at a rate that's been amazing that returns us to the 1970s.
00:05:00.000So all these things are coming together, and it does begin to create a new American majority, very much like the Reagan and Nick's majority in 1984.
00:05:10.000And I have a couple other theories that I think play into this.
00:05:12.000I think social media is also helping us a lot, where a lot of black and Hispanic voters otherwise would have been just kind of listening to very like propaganda radio or television, but they're exposed to new and exciting voices like Candace Owens or Brandon Tatum, where they're getting the other side of the story for the first time, maybe 20 or 30 years ago.
00:05:41.000And there is that kind of narrative that is seeping in, such as look at Detroit before and after Democrat rule.
00:05:46.000I mean, in certain, you've seen those pictures where almost Nagasaki has done better post-atomic bomb than Detroit under Democrat rule.
00:05:54.000And then finally, and I'd love your thoughts on this.
00:05:56.000I think Republicans are doing better at candidate selection and asking for the vote.
00:06:01.000It's almost like there's this new sense of confidence thanks to President Trump where we're going to go and ask for the vote, such candidates like Herschel Walker and others.
00:07:15.000You look at the border getting controlled under Trump.
00:07:18.000You look at the chaos in the border now.
00:07:20.000You look at the crime rate under Trump.
00:07:22.000And Trump, I think, by now, would have very aggressively gone after these George Soros-elected district attorneys who are refusing to prosecute criminals.
00:07:31.000So I think people see the big difference.
00:07:33.000The other part of that, I think, that's really important is younger African Americans are looking around thinking, you know, there's got to be a better future than what the black caucus and the Democratic side is offering me.
00:07:47.000And they're watching people who are rising, who are succeeding.
00:07:51.000And I think as a result, You look at a Tim Scott, for example, or as you point out, you look at a Herschel Walker, all of a sudden, you're seeing people who make sense, are very competent, and represent a totally different worldview from the left-wing Democrats in a sense that big government socialism has failed.
00:08:27.000Georgia is going to be a little tricky coming up.
00:08:29.000You wrote an article where you said that David Purdue probably overcounted on the Trump endorsement and maybe didn't work the state the way he should have.
00:08:45.000Well, first of all, I think that we don't know yet because the Trump vote is always a hidden vote because of the suppression.
00:08:52.000The Atlanta Journal Constitution has spent weeks attacking Purdue.
00:08:56.000The governor went out intelligently, legitimately, and raised a huge amount of money as a governor, spent about $16 or $17 million attacking Purdue, didn't run any positive commercials because people don't like Kemp as a person, but he just pounded away at Purdue, and Purdue didn't have the money to respond.
00:09:13.000So the question is: what percent of that poll number is people who actually are for Purdue but don't want to say it because the environment's been so poisonous?
00:09:22.000Trump did a telephone town hall meeting last night.
00:09:26.000I know that we've had a number of people come in the state for Purdue.
00:09:36.000I would say there's at least a 30% possibility that they'll end up in a runoff, that in fact, Kemp will not be able to win without a runoff.
00:09:43.000And I think he'll have a tremendous problem.
00:09:46.000On the other hand, my greatest fear was that a very weak Kemp candidacy would, in fact, cripple us and would hurt Kershaw Walker.
00:09:56.000But with Stacey Abrams having said that Georgia is the worst state in the country to live in, I think she may have just killed her own campaign.
00:10:32.000So I want to just kind of recap a little bit more of what's happening in Georgia.
00:10:35.000I think it's interesting from a political standpoint.
00:10:37.000I want to also brace you from some of the headlines.
00:10:39.000So there's Governor Brian Kemp, who I'm not a fan of, who is the incumbent governor of Georgia, and he is being primaried by David Perdue, who is the former senator there.
00:10:49.000Now, Brian Kemp, to his credit, he's a clever man.
00:10:52.000He has run a surprisingly formidable incumbent race.
00:11:00.000I mean, he really wants to continue to be governor of Georgia.
00:11:03.000Now, I put a lot of blame On Brian Kemp.
00:11:07.000In fact, I put all the blame on Brian Kemp as to why we lost the United States Senate.
00:11:12.000Brian Kemp did not do the right leadership decisions that were necessary to prevent widespread mail-in ballot fraud.
00:11:20.000He did not use the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to go after criminally the mules that we knew were happening in Atlanta.
00:11:27.000Brian Kemp defeated Stacey Abrams in 2018, only to then settle with Stacey Abrams with a consent decree in the spring of 2020.
00:11:36.000So Brian Kemp oversaw the defeat of Kelly Loeffler and the election of John Ossif and Raphael Warnock, which also tilted the balance of the United States Senate, which allowed us to not be able to have any negotiating power with Katanji Brown Jackson, whether it be Biden's nominees, whether it be the potential ratification of WHO treaties.
00:12:34.000But it definitely is a patronage system in Georgia.
00:12:39.000Now, some states, that really isn't the case.
00:12:42.000I could tell you right now, Arizona is not a good old boys' network.
00:12:45.000There is that kind of McCain group in Arizona, but in Arizona, if you haven't lived here, if you just kind of moved here, you can kind of upstart and you can kind of run.
00:12:55.000Now, of course, there's an establishment.
00:13:03.000You know, were you able to take care of the right people?
00:13:06.000So Brian Kemp made a brilliant political move where he basically metaphorically neutered David Perdue, where he put the more powerful Purdue, which was Sonny Purdue, I believe his name, which I think they're relatives, I'm not mistaken.
00:13:23.000And he appointed him to some sort of university board, which all but basically destroyed the fundraising ability of the entire Purdue network.
00:13:32.000So Kemp took care of a fellow Purdue in the family, which kind of, let's say, thwarted a lot of David Perdue's ability to be able to continue to raise capital.
00:13:44.000Now, David Perdue made a decision not to run for the United States Senate.
00:13:47.000That looks like it's going to be the great Herschel Walker.
00:13:52.000Kemp was able to maximize corporate donations.
00:13:56.000There's a lot of powerful corporations in Georgia.
00:14:00.000CNN, obviously, is headquartered in Atlanta.
00:14:03.000I don't think they gave money to Purdue.
00:14:04.000Coca-Cola is headquartered in Atlanta.
00:14:06.000At least they said they hated Brian Kemp.
00:14:08.000Home Depot was headquartered for quite a while in Atlanta.
00:14:12.000Delta Airlines, for a while, was headquartered in Atlanta.
00:14:16.000There's a lot of companies that have a significant presence in the state of Georgia.
00:14:21.000It's always kind of prided itself on being a quote-unquote pro-business state to a fault, by the way, where Georgia invited Hollywood liberals for years via this phony and crony tax credit system where you bring in the Will Farrells and the Kevin Harts of the world, where they become like pseudo-citizens of Georgia and they overly finance these elections.
00:14:42.000One of the many reasons why Georgia has become a battleground state, which never should have become a battleground state.
00:14:48.000But a lot of this was under the tutelage and the leadership of Brian Kemp.
00:14:52.000Now, Brian Kemp, if he survives tonight, which he looks like he will survive based on the polling, is going to then now face Stacey Abrams.
00:15:01.000David Perdue might have a massive amount of pent-up support, but the problem is this, is that yes, I think David Perdue was a good senator.
00:15:09.000He was loyal to the Trump base, but he is not like a Doug Collins or a Marjorie Taylor Greene in Georgia, where they really would have been able to inspire and motivate the base.
00:15:20.000There's a lot of Purdue skepticism in the base of the Republican Party in Georgia.
00:15:26.000He tried to turn this into a referendum on Kemp, which was smart, except it was not enough.
00:15:32.000Only probably 40% of voters are ready to recall a sitting governor.
00:15:37.000What he needed to do was give the extra 10 to 15% of people a reason to then vote for him.
00:15:44.000There might be a hidden Purdue Trump vote, but the media is going to try to blame this on Trump tonight if it goes the way of Kemp, which I think would be unfair and not the right way to cover it.
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00:17:38.000We had this back and forth, but I'm no fan of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:17:41.000I believe the CCP is the great evil of our generation.
00:17:45.000I believe the CCP is moral equivalents of the great evils of the 20th century, whether it be the National Socialist Workers' Party in the 1930s, whether it be the USSR, whether it be any of these mass totalitarian movements.
00:17:57.000The extension of Mao Sedong into the CCP is the great evil.
00:18:00.000And I believe that China is a far greater evil to American well-being and to the future of the West than Russia.
00:18:09.000In fact, if our leaders were smart and prudent, we would have come up with some sort of neutrality clause with Russia, never have them invade Ukraine, and we would have allied our forces, allied our forces against the true evil, the Chinese Communist Party.
00:18:23.000We've been consistent on this, by the way, throughout every one of these engagements about how Russia should not be the main focus of our energy or concern.
00:19:06.000I say, you've got to be kidding me, that somehow this is some sort of foreign policy conflict.
00:19:11.000Now, I could actually make an argument that Taiwan does have some national security implications for America.
00:19:19.000Creation of semiconductors, microchips, its geopolitical significance to America.
00:19:24.000I think that Taiwan, if you were to say what's in the best interest of America, I'm not totally there.
00:19:30.000I'm not making the argument yet, but you cannot, and this is one of my problems with both kind of pathological isolationists and pathological neoconservatives.
00:19:39.000I just want you to be prudent and open-minded.
00:19:42.000So, the people that are like, we must send money to Ukraine no matter what, you obviously haven't thought it through.
00:20:20.000I'm against this kind of nation-building project.
00:20:22.000But I don't ever want to get in a position where we are so committed to the inverse ideology that we are paralyzed and we can never act if it actually is in the best interest of America.
00:20:34.000And so, if you come from the belief that America is the strongest nation in the world, and you believe that China is quickly becoming not just a competitor, but an enemy in opposition to our national, international dominance, we have to ask ourselves a series of questions, which is what is our current relationship with China?
00:20:54.000What should our relationship with China be?
00:20:56.000And what are we willing to do if they were going to try an incursion when it came to Taiwan?
00:21:04.000Now, again, I have to think pretty deeply about this because my gut instinct is: you know what?
00:21:10.000However, I look at the ramifications of what that might mean, and the current commander-in-chief, and the current military leadership, and also about how we are now engaged in a proxy war against Russia.
00:21:24.000And now I have more restraint where I say, wait a second, are we now in a position, whether it be a position kind of from a national morale standpoint, from a financial standpoint, from a military standpoint, military standpoint, to go fight this battle?
00:21:45.000Now, if we wouldn't have gotten involved at all in Ukraine, and we instead kind of would have understood that the true test would have been in Taiwan, my answer might be a little different.
00:21:55.000But to get involved in two separate proxy wars against the two other global powers in two areas very far from America, you got me really pausing here.
00:22:06.000You have me pausing to really consider whether or not this would be prudent.
00:22:13.000So, Joe Biden has come out and he has said the following: He said that the commitment we have made is that we will militarily defend Taiwan against China's potential invasion.
00:23:07.000Ukraine has now become a proxy war of the American regime to the tune of $55 billion against the Russian Federation.
00:23:17.000So, it's very similar to some of these proxy wars that were fought in the 1980s through the Contras and through our intervention in Nicaragua or in other South and Central American countries.
00:23:30.000To give an idea, Russia only spends $65 billion a year on their military.
00:23:37.000In 12 weeks, we've basically matched their spend in a proxy conflict against a country that very well could have been a partner against the Chinese.
00:23:51.000Now, so then Biden was asked about Yellen's comments about tariffs on China.
00:23:55.000So, Joe Biden says we might militarily go after China, but we're also going to remove tariffs.
00:24:03.000Secretary Yellen said recently that some of the tariffs on Chinese imports impose more harm on consumers and businesses and aren't very strategic.
00:24:47.000Taiwan is far less corrupt than Ukraine.
00:24:54.000Taiwan is fighting against a legitimate existential evil where if I worry about my grandkids and future generations, it's going to be the Chinese Communist Party threat, not the Russian threat.
00:25:05.000Instead, we've kind of provoked and created the Russian threat because of the insanity and the idiocy of our current leadership class.
00:25:15.000Now, by the way, the White House has walked back the Taiwan claim, saying that we're actually not going to defend Taiwan militarily, completely contradicting the statement.
00:25:28.000As the president said, our policy has not changed.
00:25:31.000He reiterated that our one-China policy and our commitment to peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait.
00:25:35.000He also reiterated our commitment under Taiwan Relations Act to provide Taiwan with the military means to defend itself.
00:25:41.000What's so interesting, though, is that they talk a game against standing good against China, but they don't want to put the economic sanctions or tariffs on China that would actually help the American worker because that would actually hurt the American financing class.
00:25:58.000For those of you that are worried about China, the only peace of mind I can give you is that the American business class, which helps run parts of our government, they are not going to let anything happen with China.
00:26:16.000But make no mistake, the military-industrial complex with Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, and Lockheed Martin, they love nothing more than a kinetic conflict against China.
00:26:24.000That would boost their stocks like you wouldn't believe.
00:26:26.000And let me just, how perverse is it that you have companies that their profit motive is war?
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00:27:42.000Turnout in the Republican primary in Georgia is way up.
00:27:47.000Republicans lead Democrats by 113,360 votes in early voting.
00:27:51.000Georgia early voting trends are the following: Republicans have a near seven-point advantage, seven-point swing towards Republicans.
00:28:01.000These are all early indicators that November is going to be a catastrophic bloodbath for the Democrats.
00:28:09.000That remember, if the whole premise of 2,000 mules is that this was done on the margins, and if they were able to run enough negative attack ads against Trump, able to gin up enough COVID hysteria, the ballot trafficking was just, trafficking was just enough to be able to get it over the edge.
00:28:28.000Because remember, Chris Cuomo and the CNN people, they always say, of course, there's voter fraud, but it isn't enough to turn an election.
00:28:35.000It isn't a, that's kind of the repeated incantation.
00:28:39.000However, if you're talking about an election like Arizona that's determined by 10,000 votes or a Senate election in Georgia that's determined by 1,800 votes, that sort of shenanigans on the margins ends up being the deciding factor.
00:28:52.000What is now percolating and bubbling up is great because I don't think we've made the necessary changes for ballot drop boxes or mail-in ballot reform.
00:29:00.000Is that this is not going to be an on-the-margins race in Georgia in November?
00:29:06.000If all goes according to plan, which it looks like it's trending that way, and the Democrats' window to change sentiment is changing very, very, it's closing.
00:29:15.000Do you think gas prices are going to go down by early voting?
00:29:18.000Because remember, our early voting starts like October 1.
00:29:21.000So we're talking about the month of June, July, August, September.
00:29:24.000There are four months left for Democrats to try to convince people they aren't terrible.
00:29:33.000I mean, for all the kind of protests and nonsense besides the paid agitators, I have to tell you, I was, I am blown away at the lack of interest people have to protest that.
00:29:47.000Yeah, I mean, there's some people here and there, but I was expecting like Floyd stuff.
00:30:52.000Record turnout, record turnout, record turnout.
00:30:55.000Where the Democrats are going, they are close to hitting the point of no return.
00:31:01.000They are very close to hitting the point where they are not going to be able to turn this ship around under any circumstance at all, whatsoever.
00:31:14.000The numbers are showing that Democrat approvals are in the gutter.
00:31:21.000And ABC News has just come out, AP News.
00:31:25.000Biden approval dips to lowest level of presidency.
00:31:29.000Even if Joe Biden goes up by two or three points, only two in 10 adults say the U.S. is heading in the right direction or the economy is good.
00:31:39.000I wonder if they removed Silicon Valley and the suburbs of Washington, D.C., if that two in 10 would still.
00:31:45.000If two in 10 Americans think America's heading in the right direction and eight out of 10 Americans say it's not, that's going to be a catastrophe.
00:31:56.000This is where Republicans, I think, we need to start to dig in and we need to reach for more.
00:32:01.000Districts and states are Senate races that otherwise might have seemed inconceivable for us to win.
00:32:07.000We have to field candidates in every district, in every state.
00:32:11.000We're going to be surprised like Ed Durr in New Jersey, where he unseated the New Jersey Senate president, or they almost defeated Governor Murphy.
00:32:20.000I'm telling you that this is, we need to have the best candidates we can have in every corner of the country because we are just, there are going to be some races like, wow, I didn't see that one coming.
00:32:32.000And that all seems to be bubbling up in all this early data.
00:32:35.000And the Democrats, they are pulling the fire alarm.
00:32:38.000Expect them to get even more desperate because they're getting to the place where they know they're going to be displaced from power for how long?