The Charlie Kirk Show - November 23, 2020


The Mathematical Impossibility of a Biden Victory with Darren Beattie


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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Dr. Darren Beatty joins us with a very important analysis connecting the attempted and possible color revolution with what we re seeing in our country. Join us as we discuss the parallels between the attempted color revolution in the United States and what we ve seen in Eastern Europe.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:01.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Darren Beatty joins us with a very important analysis connecting the attempted and possible color revolution with what we're seeing in our country.
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00:00:27.000 Darren Beattie is here.
00:00:28.000 Buckle up, everybody.
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00:02:16.000 And welcome to the show, Darren Beattie.
00:02:18.000 Thanks for having me.
00:02:19.000 So you were calling early for a potential color revolution against President Trump.
00:02:24.000 You said that, not calling for it, but you were trying to expose it.
00:02:27.000 You were saying that this might be happening.
00:02:30.000 Did we see it in a different way in this voter fraud, cutting of corners, the big theft?
00:02:37.000 Well, we saw it in a somewhat modified fashion.
00:02:41.000 And so, as I mentioned in the last time we talked, color revolution has two chief characteristics.
00:02:49.000 The first characteristic is an engineered contested election scenario.
00:02:54.000 And the second is massive mobilized protests and demonstrations.
00:02:59.000 The bottom line here is we were guaranteed to have a contested election scenario with mail-in ballots.
00:03:06.000 Mail-in ballots were sure to open up the door for all kinds of weird irregularities, fraud, everything like that.
00:03:14.000 Where the color revolution would really come into play is if Trump is actually successful in overturning this steal, then they will say that Trump is a usurper, he's illegitimate, and then they'll vamp up the framework that they use in Eastern European countries by saying he's an authoritarian.
00:03:35.000 We need to take to the streets and so forth.
00:03:37.000 So the stage that we're at now is simply a fraudulent election.
00:03:43.000 What looks to be the case with severe irregularities in a number of states, which you've been pointing out very forcefully and very effectively.
00:03:52.000 So I want to congratulate you on your efforts there.
00:03:57.000 But it looks like just your typical steel that was engineered according to the machine politics of various municipalities of the United States. 0.66
00:04:09.000 But if we're successful, if we win, if our efforts to expose this steel prove successful and Trump is inaugurated, that's when you're going to see the color revolution take effect.
00:04:23.000 So you tweeted on November 4th, time for the president to see this, when you were talking about the regime change. 0.88
00:04:29.000 I'm making the comparison that what they were willing to do to execute a color revolution is very similar to what they probably pulled off in some of these cities unless we expose them and we're able to overturn some of these results. 0.71
00:04:43.000 You are actually a mathematician, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:04:46.000 You have a background in mathematics.
00:04:49.000 Can you build out the mathematical impossibility of what the media is telling us here?
00:04:54.000 Because I feel that we have not talked enough about the statistical modeling, how impossible it is that Joe Biden allegedly achieved what they say he did.
00:05:04.000 Right.
00:05:04.000 Well, on that issue, I mean, that would require, you know, someone very familiar with the actual numbers.
00:05:11.000 And while I've paid, you know, attention to the various states, I don't feel qualified to address the numbers specifically.
00:05:18.000 But I think people, your audience are curious about this.
00:05:21.000 I think the populist pundit Richard Barris has done a very good job, very conversant with the numbers of laying out a case for fraud, really.
00:05:31.000 There's no other way to put it in these various states.
00:05:34.000 They're so suspicious.
00:05:35.000 And I think in a way, it's important to drill down on the actual numbers.
00:05:40.000 And every day I'm getting a new case for, oh, some statistician here, some statistician there.
00:05:46.000 I think at this point, the case for fraud is fairly dispositive.
00:05:53.000 And now it's just a question of whether the people in position to do so will do the right thing.
00:06:00.000 That's really the issue, whether the state governments, the respective state legislatures will do the right thing and refuse to certify unless it's clear that the election was actually legitimate.
00:06:13.000 And it's looking increasingly like it was illegitimate.
00:06:17.000 And so looking at this, and you run Revolver.news.
00:06:20.000 I want to encourage everyone to check that out for one of your primary news sources, Revolver.news.
00:06:25.000 Looking at this through your lens, through a strategic, you know, strategically thinking, what are the next steps that are needed for President Trump and his team?
00:06:34.000 What do you think needs to be done?
00:06:36.000 A lot of people watch this program, a lot of people that have a lot of influence.
00:06:41.000 What steps do you think need to be taken in what sequence in order to achieve a second term for President Trump at this point?
00:06:48.000 Well, I think they need to have a strategy in each individual state.
00:06:52.000 I think message discipline is very important.
00:06:55.000 And I think at this stage, it really is important to understand that the mechanism by which the president formally becomes president first requires certification at the state level.
00:07:09.000 Then they have to seat electors.
00:07:11.000 Then the electors vote in December.
00:07:13.000 And then that is ratified by the House of Representatives.
00:07:17.000 So you have to tell yourself a narrative, how does Trump get to 270?
00:07:22.000 How does he get to inauguration day?
00:07:24.000 And really focus on every single step necessary toward that end.
00:07:28.000 And Revolver.news and I and many others have been saying a crucial aspect of this is understanding that it's actually the state legislatures that seat electors.
00:07:40.000 And I think that's profound leverage that actually the states are not using to great effect, which is actually disappointing because many of these states are Republican controlled.
00:07:50.000 It's not surprising, though.
00:07:52.000 Weak Republicans seem to be something that is far too common.
00:07:58.000 It does seem, though, that Republicans are the only shot that we have to actually get a second term of President Trump, especially considering the stakes of all of this.
00:08:09.000 The Democrats are not acting like winners.
00:08:12.000 The left, they're not acting in a former fashion as if they won this election.
00:08:16.000 Joe Biden just relaunched his donation portal.
00:08:20.000 You and I have been around many elections where it's pretty well known that you lost, it's over.
00:08:26.000 This has felt so artificial, so forced, so quick that they're creating lists of enemies almost instantaneously.
00:08:39.000 Can you help unpack what we can learn from how the left has responded from this and also some action steps of how we can pressure state legislatures?
00:08:49.000 Well, look, what you see is a highly coordinated effort here.
00:08:54.000 And months ago, they preceded this narrative that there would be something like a red mirage, but the mail-in ballots would overcome the difference.
00:09:04.000 They've seeded these narratives and they've actually prepared for a case in which Trump actually was the winner.
00:09:12.000 Then they have a contested scenario, and that would be the color revolution.
00:09:15.000 So that's the case in which we actually get Trump to the inauguration.
00:09:19.000 But I think we really need to be sober and honest about the fact.
00:09:23.000 When we say the legitimacy of Joe Biden as president-elect, to question Joe, the legitimacy of Joe Biden's election is to question the legitimacy of America's democratic system as such.
00:09:38.000 You can't separate the two.
00:09:40.000 And if we continue to have elections along these lines, and again, a lot of the work needs to be done by Republicans because they're frankly screw-ups at the state level in many of these states that allowed this to happen.
00:09:53.000 We knew there would be something like this down the pipeline simply by nature of the mail-in ballots bill.
00:10:00.000 You know, A.G. Barr, of whom I've been critical, he correctly stated this is unprecedented.
00:10:06.000 It's bound to result in controversy.
00:10:09.000 And so if we continue to have elections like this, where there's like a nominal election on election day, and then you just indefinitely count mail-in ballots with no authentication, no, you know, signature due diligence, nothing, we're not, we're not, we're in a sham democracy.
00:10:28.000 And so I think it, you know, there's a partisan dimension of this because Joe Biden and the Democrats did, you know, it looks like steal this election.
00:10:37.000 But I think there's a trans partisan aspect as well is that if we continue to have elections along the lines of what we just saw, it's not just Biden's legitimacy, it's legitimacy of the American system that's fake here.
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00:12:02.000 You had the Chamber of Commerce come out today and they said, sit down and shut up, Trump. 0.99
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00:12:08.000 You know, open the borders, get us our visas back.
00:12:11.000 You know, give us our power back.
00:12:14.000 Do it quickly or else we're going to punish you.
00:12:16.000 What they don't realize, and maybe they just don't care, is that there might not be a country to even make products in very soon.
00:12:23.000 Is that this is how countries disintegrate?
00:12:25.000 Is that the ties that bind us together are actually a lot more fragile than what people realize.
00:12:32.000 One of those is pretty obvious, which is, do you have a government that you consent to?
00:12:37.000 Do you have a government that actually has representative, you know, either democratic institutions through a republic?
00:12:44.000 But the most important thing is this, and this is what happens in the Banana Republic, when they just don't believe the results of the election.
00:12:51.000 Don't be surprised when all of a sudden decent people that have a lot to lose start getting to get very mad and very angry and very rebellious.
00:13:00.000 And then all of a sudden, things start going in a sequence that no one wants to live through.
00:13:04.000 Can you talk about how high stakes this actually is?
00:13:07.000 Because I feel that some people that are commenting on this just think this is about an election.
00:13:11.000 It's actually much bigger than that.
00:13:13.000 Right.
00:13:13.000 Well, look, I mean, the stakes don't get any higher than the very status of the United States as a nominally free country in which we hold democratic elections.
00:13:26.000 I mean, the left has paid lip service to the importance of this status by, you know, the Washington Post's own moniker where, you know, democracy dies in darkness.
00:13:36.000 All of the enemies of democracy have consistently invoked democracy as a pretext to destroy our democracy.
00:13:44.000 That's an important thing to understand.
00:13:47.000 And once once the, and I think the notion that America is a democracy, a free country, and, you know, frankly, one can, you know, drill down and ask whether that's really the case.
00:13:59.000 But even if it's an illusion, the illusion is more important to the functioning of the United States than it is to other countries.
00:14:08.000 The idea of ourselves as somehow a real democracy.
00:14:13.000 Once that disintegrates, whether it's a reality or an illusion, you have a lot of problems down the pipeline because it was so instrumental to our own self-concept of who we are as Americans and what America is as a country relative to others on the world stage.
00:14:30.000 So I think what we can see is, you know, with the Donald Trump's presidency, you saw the delegitimization of the media.
00:14:39.000 We've seen the delegitimization of these institutions that many conservatives are typically favorably disposed to.
00:14:47.000 The national security state, the FBI, all these other organizations that I think a lot of big conservatives say these are great organizations.
00:14:54.000 They should be.
00:14:55.000 And they feel so betrayed because of the corruption that's been exposed.
00:15:00.000 This is another delegitimization in a long line of cases in which the illusions that underpin our countries have been exposed.
00:15:10.000 Our country has been exposed.
00:15:11.000 And I think that's a very dangerous thing.
00:15:14.000 That is such a good point.
00:15:16.000 What hasn't been delegitimized in the last decade?
00:15:19.000 Corporate America has been delegitimized.
00:15:21.000 Right.
00:15:21.000 Professional sports, our government, our legal institutions.
00:15:27.000 And what you're saying, Darren, I completely agree with this, is that the country can only endure so much delegitimization until there's a spiral of events that has an unlimited amount of just an unlimited amount of casualty or byproduct that really no one wants to live through that.
00:15:45.000 The question is then, what is the remedy?
00:15:47.000 Right.
00:15:47.000 And so the remedy would be a second term of President Trump.
00:15:51.000 But what else do you see on an even bigger picture than that?
00:15:54.000 How do you fix this almost erosion of the civilization?
00:15:59.000 Right.
00:16:00.000 Well, I think, you know, the delegitimization is a double-edged sword.
00:16:04.000 It's, you know, it's profoundly enervating from a kind of national strength standpoint. 0.84
00:16:11.000 But in some ways, the clarification is a positive thing from the point of view of patriots who at least know that they're getting screwed. 0.57
00:16:18.000 They at least know what the scam is.
00:16:21.000 And having a clear picture of what's actually going on, who your friends are and who your enemies are, at least positions you to strategize going forward.
00:16:32.000 I think one thing we really need to focus on, and you've been good on this, is if we don't have a free and open internet, if we don't have some type of distribution channel for information, we just have, we have no shot.
00:16:48.000 And there are certain things that could happen irrespective of whether Trump is inaugurated.
00:16:53.000 I've been pushing really hard for the confirmation of Nathan Symington to the FCC.
00:16:59.000 And he's been a strong advocate of open internet, free internet.
00:17:03.000 But those are the sorts of things we're going to have to focus on and really get down to strategy assessment and say, how do we preserve open distribution channels for information?
00:17:13.000 Because as we've seen, censorship has been part of this coup.
00:17:17.000 It's inconceivable that you look at the president's timeline on Twitter and like five out of seven tweets of his are censored by Twitter.
00:17:27.000 And the idea that you have a president of the United States who he can't silence Twitter.
00:17:33.000 He can't censor Twitter can censor him.
00:17:36.000 That is a very dangerous position to be in for this country where the media has that kind of power.
00:17:44.000 And the media really arrogates to itself the power to decide the president because Joe Biden is the president-elect, ostensibly, because the media said so.
00:17:56.000 And so this is a very dangerous development.
00:17:59.000 People complain about a state-controlled media, like in dictatorships, but actually what we have is arguably worse and more sinister.
00:18:08.000 We don't have a state-controlled media.
00:18:10.000 We have a media-controlled state.
00:18:12.000 That's exactly what we're doing.
00:18:14.000 And unless we really have a robust and fearless and effective strategy to address that problem, we're going to be in for a very, very dystopian 21st century.
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00:19:20.000 Well, and the way that this is headed, and you've played a big role in this, and Tucker's played a big role in this, is that we, you know, in the conservative kind of programming, and there's nothing incorrect about this.
00:19:31.000 I still hold this sort of skepticism, but we were only skeptical of government power, right?
00:19:36.000 Government spying on you, government taking your weapons.
00:19:39.000 I still hold those beliefs.
00:19:41.000 But there was never any conversation at all whatsoever of the concentration of corporate power.
00:19:46.000 It was like, stop, you know, don't mention that.
00:19:48.000 They're on our team no matter what.
00:19:49.000 And now we're now at a moment where the corporate power is actually way more creepy, way more technologically sophisticated, and far more unchecked than the government power.
00:19:59.000 You know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people will listen to this conversation unless somebody in Menlo Park pushes a button and that just disappears.
00:20:09.000 Exactly.
00:20:10.000 Now, if the Federal Bureau of Investigation walked into your room or my room right now and arrested us because they didn't like what we were saying, we would have to comply in the moment, but then we could counter sue, probably win a lot of money, and they'd have to give us a reason as to why we're being arrested.
00:20:25.000 We have a bill of rights with our government.
00:20:27.000 At times, it could be clumsy, it could be messy, but it's still there.
00:20:30.000 It's enforceable, right?
00:20:31.000 And say what you want.
00:20:33.000 We still have a pretty good justice system in that sense.
00:20:36.000 There is no rights with Silicon Valley.
00:20:39.000 None, nothing.
00:20:40.000 We have no bill of rights.
00:20:42.000 We have no rights to due process.
00:20:43.000 We have no representation.
00:20:45.000 Instead, if you dare even question it, then you have your whole life ruined.
00:20:50.000 So, Darren, I want you to comment on it's bad enough that the Menlo Park people existed, but now the Menlo Park robber barons are now going to be given unfettered access to our government if Joe Biden puts his hand up and actually gets sworn in as president.
00:21:06.000 We are now going to be talking about something that's actually even more dangerous than what we saw in the early 1900s, because what we saw in the early 1900s was J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and they had far too much corporate power.
00:21:18.000 And I think Teddy Roosevelt actually deserves a lot of credit.
00:21:22.000 Some conservatives think I'm nuts by saying this, but I think they're wrong because he made sure that the transition from the farms to the factories was not one that resulted in the Russian Revolution, which was bad for everyone.
00:21:32.000 He actually preserved some form or fashion of American capitalism.
00:21:35.000 But the problem is that now you're going to see the multi-trillion dollar corporations and the multi-trillion dollar government become one.
00:21:42.000 Talk about how dangerous that is.
00:21:44.000 Well, I think it's extremely dangerous.
00:21:46.000 And I think you make an absolutely important point here.
00:21:51.000 It's a very important insight to understand that really this distinction between the private and public sector doesn't really exist at the highest levels.
00:22:01.000 When you look at how a major corporation like Google is so intertwined with the government, and I think it's also important at a level of something like Google and the federal government, these are so monolithic that actually you need to think about networks within.
00:22:19.000 And so Google is very much connected to networks within our government, within our national security apparatus.
00:22:28.000 Any company at Google's level is going to do contracts with the federal government and so forth.
00:22:34.000 And so I think when you get to the top of the power structure in the country, this distinction between public and private doesn't really exist in practice.
00:22:44.000 It's all just kind of one kind of ruling structure that exists.
00:22:51.000 Exactly right.
00:22:52.000 And people flow from government back to Google and back and forth.
00:22:56.000 In fact, one of the kind of underreported stories of how we got to this position where the internet of 2015 doesn't exist now is a lot of the people, the veterans from Obama's State Department, rolled over into the trust and safety boards of the respective tech companies.
00:23:14.000 And now we're in a situation where you may have seen this.
00:23:19.000 Your viewers should absolutely be aware of this.
00:23:22.000 A man called Rick Stengel, who identified himself as Obama's chief propagandist in the State Department and who has called for a reimagining of the First Amendment so as to make hate speech illegal.
00:23:37.000 And of course, they would consider this conversation to be hate speech, I guarantee.
00:23:42.000 And so Rick Stengel, Obama's chief propagandist who wants to reimagine the First Amendment, he's now on Biden's transition team.
00:23:52.000 And I think the dynamic that people should be aware of is, yes, these big tech companies are bad, but a lot of the pressure for censorship, in many cases, Google is an exceptional case because it's simply an evil company.
00:24:05.000 But in a lot of these tech firms, you have fairly indifferent people at the CEO level, a lot of pressure from woke people at the mid to high level, tremendous amount of pressure from NGOs.
00:24:19.000 And what you're going to be seeing now, if Biden is inaugurated, you're going to see the government pressuring these tech companies to fully consolidate their censorship regime.
00:24:30.000 And your viewers might know that a lot of conservatives have invoked this Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
00:24:40.000 I think one thing to point out is Section 230 is a leverage tool.
00:24:44.000 And leverage tools are by their nature neutral and can be used by either side.
00:24:50.000 And I anticipate if Biden becomes president, his administration will use Section 230 as a leverage tool, not to prevent censorship, but rather to bully the censoring more.
00:25:04.000 So that we're in for a very, very dangerous ride here.
00:25:07.000 But the negotiating position should be, we're going to break you up, and we're going to start from that as our opening shot.
00:25:14.000 Well, again, that's also a leverage point.
00:25:17.000 So the tech companies were actually scared of all the politicians. 1.00
00:25:24.000 The politician that the tech companies were most scared of was Elizabeth Warren. 1.00
00:25:29.000 Because Elizabeth Warren was calling for using antitrust. 1.00
00:25:33.000 I'm not opposed to using antitrust, but again, that's just a leverage tool. 1.00
00:25:37.000 And the tech companies considered the threat to be most credible coming from Elizabeth Warren breaking up the tech companies for left-wing reasons.
00:25:46.000 And we have to remember, as much as we hate Facebook, the left hates Facebook because they blame Facebook for the election of Donald Trump still.
00:25:54.000 So it's a complicated situation.
00:25:57.000 And we are going to have to reevaluate our strategy, I think, to some degree if horrifically Biden ends up being inaugurated as president, because it will be the government in this case putting additional pressure on these tech companies to snuff out what's left of a dissenting voice on the internet.
00:26:18.000 And it's probably one of the most important issues of our time.
00:26:22.000 You don't have natural rights in the former fashion that you and I grew up in when all of a sudden you can't access 90% of the population.
00:26:29.000 It's just not, all of a sudden, your natural rights are being violated by definition.
00:26:34.000 So revolver.news, anything that we didn't touch on that you want to communicate to our audience?
00:26:41.000 Well, we'll have to save that for the next talk.
00:26:44.000 I hope you'll have me on next time.
00:26:46.000 I'd love to talk about the role of the National Security State in all of this.
00:26:50.000 But until then, I encourage your listeners, go to revolver.news.
00:26:55.000 The president endorsed it as the alternative to the Drudge Report.
00:26:59.000 We're covering the election fraud. 0.89
00:27:01.000 We're covering the color revolution.
00:27:03.000 We're covering big tech.
00:27:04.000 So be sure to go to revolver.news.
00:27:06.000 Well, Darren, keep up the good work.
00:27:08.000 Stay focused.
00:27:09.000 And we'll have you on very soon.
00:27:11.000 Thanks so much.
00:27:11.000 You too.
00:27:12.000 Thank you.
00:27:13.000 You bet.
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