The Charlie Kirk Show - April 06, 2023


The Media Burns Down Camelot, and Dems Burn Down Chicago with Alina Habba

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Charlie Kirk running for president Robert Foy. Kennedy Jr... politics
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Running Donald Trump Brandon Johnson Bobby Kennedy Jr. Lori Lightfoot Rush Limbaugh Marianne Williamson Sleep Breakthrough Kennedys Pfizer John F. Kennedy Alvin Bragg Joe Biden Vallis Mitt Romney John Fitzgerald Kennedy Turning Point USA Joseph Kennedy Peter Strzok Bernie Sanders and 16 more
The Worst Indictment Ever? With Alan Dershowitz The Republican National Clown Committee with Robby Starbuck and Kash Patel

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, a Kennedy running for president that has me excited.
00:00:04.000 That's right.
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00:01:16.000 I want to talk about somebody running for the presidency as a Democrat.
00:01:20.000 And no, it's not Marianne Williamson.
00:01:23.000 It's somebody that, quite honestly, I'm thrilled he's running for the presidency.
00:01:27.000 He's been a guest on this show.
00:01:29.000 We obviously disagree a lot politically.
00:01:31.000 But if I would have told you in the 1990s or early 2000s that a Kennedy was running for the presidency, I would guarantee you that 60 Minutes would do interviews and you would have these long documentaries on kind of the B-roll of John F. Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy and the hearkening back to Camelot.
00:01:51.000 And you would have a front page article on the New York Times and it would say, is Camelot back or Camelot 2.0?
00:01:59.000 Does the Kennedy legacy live on?
00:02:01.000 You know, for some of the younger viewers out there, and I never lived to this, but I've studied it, it's hard to even capture the media's infatuation with the Kennedys.
00:02:11.000 It was the American equivalent of the royal family.
00:02:15.000 They could do no wrong, even from Chappaquittic to the adulterous affairs that John F. Kennedy participated in as president.
00:02:23.000 I mean, they could do nothing wrong.
00:02:25.000 They would cover up for them.
00:02:26.000 They would lie.
00:02:28.000 They would mislead. 0.59
00:02:30.000 The Kennedys were, and they were supposed to be, the American ruling class. 0.65
00:02:34.000 It was the closest thing to American royalty that we have seen for quite some time.
00:02:40.000 And of course, tragically, you know, Joseph P. Kennedy, who was not a good guy, he was a bad person.
00:02:46.000 He had several sons.
00:02:49.000 His first son died at war, Joe Jr., if I'm not mistaken.
00:02:52.000 And then obviously, John Fitzgerald Kennedy became president and tragically was assassinated under mysterious and I believe, let's just say clandestine circumstances.
00:03:03.000 Bobby Kennedy also assassinated. 0.98
00:03:05.000 Ted Kennedy, who was a scumbag and really helped destroy the country legislatively and other ways, got away with his nonsense at Chappaquittic. 0.98
00:03:13.000 But Bobby Kennedy had a son, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 0.98
00:03:18.000 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been an advocate for many decades of being a lawyer against overwhelming corporate interests.
00:03:25.000 Now, that's not really my thing.
00:03:27.000 I'm not always big into trying to sue every company.
00:03:29.000 I generally like markets and I like private property rights.
00:03:33.000 But Bobby Kennedy has decided to focus on a particular aspect of the machine.
00:03:38.000 He's decided to ask questions, figure out what's really going on.
00:03:42.000 He's decided to really put his entire career questioning whether or not the cartel of the pharmaceutical companies running our country is making us healthier.
00:03:51.000 That's basically his life's work.
00:03:54.000 His life's work, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has been focused on the question of as we are now taking more vaccines, we are taking more pharmaceuticals.
00:04:04.000 We have more kids on antidepressants.
00:04:06.000 We have more kids on pharmacological addictive substances, more kids on benzodiazepines, more kids on Zoloft, more kids on Prozac, more kids on SSRIs.
00:04:17.000 We have more people taking medication than ever before.
00:04:20.000 Are we healthier?
00:04:21.000 That's basically his life's work.
00:04:23.000 And of course, he then talks about vaccines.
00:04:25.000 He asks questions about vaccines.
00:04:28.000 Are they safe?
00:04:28.000 Are they effective?
00:04:29.000 Are they necessary?
00:04:31.000 Are they causing other things in society?
00:04:33.000 And I don't take any strong opinions on that stuff.
00:04:35.000 I'm open-minded.
00:04:36.000 I ask questions.
00:04:37.000 I think it's interesting.
00:04:38.000 Certainly on the COVID vaccine, it's something that we spoke out about, and it's more of like an mRNA gene-altering shot.
00:04:45.000 But Bobby Kennedy has had the courage, I should say, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., to challenge the consensus.
00:04:53.000 And now this is so fascinating, everybody, where in the 1980s, if he was running for the presidency or the 90s or the early 2000s, the media would have done everything they possibly could to just platform him, to celebrate him.
00:05:09.000 The Kennedys are back.
00:05:11.000 Now look at how the media treats the Kennedys and how much things have changed.
00:05:15.000 Fascinating.
00:05:16.000 Play cut 63.
00:05:17.000 This just into CNN, anti-vaccine quack Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission to run for president as a Democrat in launching his presidential bid.
00:05:30.000 Kennedy is the latest in a long line of family members to enter politics.
00:05:35.000 So far, only Marion Williamson, who last month launched her second long shot campaign, has entered the Democratic primary against Biden. 0.80
00:05:41.000 Kennedy is such a healthcare menace.
00:05:43.000 In 2019, even his cousins wrote an op-ed criticizing his anti-science views on life-saving vaccines. 0.95
00:05:52.000 I mean, it's hard to even put into words just how silly that entire broadcast is. 0.94
00:06:00.000 Anti-vaccine quack. 0.95
00:06:02.000 I mean, he asked questions.
00:06:03.000 I don't know if my views are the same as Bobby Kennedy on every single vaccine.
00:06:07.000 I don't know, but he's willing to ask questions.
00:06:09.000 You see, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a pretty solid argument that Jake Tapper would never err, which is this, which is why are we allowed to sue most companies, but we're not allowed to sue the major vaccine manufacturers.
00:06:25.000 Now, I am not saying this next clip is something that I agree with completely, but the question is actually legitimate.
00:06:32.000 It's a legitimate question.
00:06:33.000 Are you allowed to ask questions anymore?
00:06:35.000 No, CNN will smear you.
00:06:36.000 You know why?
00:06:36.000 CNN receives millions of dollars in advertising from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson.
00:06:44.000 For those of us that watched March Madness or you watched some of the NFL football games a couple months ago, every other commercial was Pfizer, Paxlovid, and all these different drugs, or ask your doctor about Ozembic, enough.
00:06:56.000 We are, our propaganda channels are subsidized by the pharmaceutical companies.
00:07:02.000 And so if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as a Democrat wants to try to build a movement asking the question, why are we taking so many drugs in our country?
00:07:10.000 God bless you.
00:07:11.000 Never thought I'd say that about a Kennedy because I'm not exactly a fan of a lot of things their family did.
00:07:16.000 But here's a question.
00:07:18.000 Robert F. Kennedy says, listen, autism has exploded.
00:07:22.000 He has an opinion as to why, but I think the question needs to be asked.
00:07:27.000 Play cut 64.
00:07:28.000 The vaccine schedule began exploding in 1989.
00:07:33.000 And you'll see autism four and a half years after the vaccine.
00:07:39.000 Oh, by 1995, we started seeing an explosion in autism.
00:07:43.000 And we went, you know, we've gone now from autism being one in 10,000 Americans to one in every 34 children.
00:07:52.000 So crazy.
00:07:53.000 It began exploding in 95, and the CDC itself said this could be the vaccines.
00:07:59.000 These women, the mothers are reporting it's the vaccines. 0.98
00:08:03.000 Other people are reporting, doctors, etc.
00:08:05.000 We're seeing it all over.
00:08:07.000 Let's look.
00:08:08.000 So, we don't know why autism has now increased so dramatically, but at least Kennedy is willing to ask the question.
00:08:16.000 We're just supposed to take it like, Yeah, it's perfectly normal.
00:08:19.000 It used to be one in 10,000, now it's one in 34.
00:08:23.000 Something changed.
00:08:24.000 Open for any ideas.
00:08:26.000 No.
00:08:26.000 Does the media care?
00:08:27.000 The CNN asked the question, no.
00:08:30.000 And they say, oh, it's just because they diagnose it more accurately. 1.00
00:08:33.000 That is garbage. 0.92
00:08:34.000 Now, I'm not saying it's assuredly the vaccine, but I'm also saying, I'm not even willing to say that you can disqualify it, right? 0.99
00:08:34.000 It's false. 0.99
00:08:42.000 I'm not saying you could prove it, nor can you disprove it, but it's worth exploring and pondering why is it that Americans, in America, we used to have a 1 in 10,000 autism rate, and now it's 1 in 34 in children.
00:08:56.000 That's worth asking the question.
00:09:00.000 What is causing it?
00:09:01.000 But do you know also why they hate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.?
00:09:04.000 He wrote a fabulous book called The Real Anthony Fauci.
00:09:09.000 He went right after Fauci.
00:09:12.000 He did it effectively.
00:09:14.000 He did it persuasively.
00:09:16.000 And so Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now filing as a Democrat and more power to him.
00:09:22.000 If he's going to actually have a Democrat candidacy that could potentially get on a debate stage as a Kennedy going after the pharmaceutical companies, I mean, that is one of the most important presidential campaigns I think that could happen right now.
00:09:36.000 Forget all of his other issues.
00:09:37.000 You know, I'm sure he has perspectives on the, you know, gay marriage and abortion that I don't have and all this.
00:09:43.000 I don't, that's not the point.
00:09:45.000 It seems as if his life's work has been about asking the question: why is it the more drugs we take, we actually get sicker?
00:09:52.000 Probably an important question that no one's able to answer.
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00:11:41.000 So let's just talk about how this is going to impact the Democrat primary, which I find to be very interesting.
00:11:45.000 Whether Biden ends up being the nominee or attempts to be the nominee, he's going to have a challenge.
00:11:49.000 He's going to have a challenge from a Kennedy, not just the chakra woman, the yoga, the crystal person, the be one with the universe, the Gnostic Hermeticist, whatever thing.
00:11:58.000 You know, the just sit and meditate and get to a higher plane of existence.
00:12:02.000 Okay, great.
00:12:02.000 That's Marianne Williamson.
00:12:03.000 She's trying to become president.
00:12:07.000 By the way, Marion Williamson's welcome on this program anytime.
00:12:07.000 Not going to happen.
00:12:10.000 Mr. Kennedy is welcome on this program.
00:12:12.000 In fact, we're trying to book him.
00:12:13.000 I would love to have Joe Biden on the show as well.
00:12:15.000 Anybody running for the presidency is welcome on this show.
00:12:17.000 You'll get uninterrupted time to talk, and then we'll ask you tough questions.
00:12:22.000 And so, Bobby Kennedy Jr., by the way, we don't even know if they're going to hold debates, but this will at least create noise in the Democrat primary.
00:12:32.000 And noise is helpful, actually, because currently the Democrat Party is a Chicago-style Stalinist machine.
00:12:40.000 It's like the Borg.
00:12:41.000 Resistance is futile.
00:12:43.000 You cannot defect.
00:12:44.000 You cannot challenge.
00:12:46.000 You cannot question.
00:12:47.000 That's all Robert F. Kennedy Jr. does is question.
00:12:52.000 He's made a career out of it.
00:12:54.000 He says, why is it that way?
00:12:55.000 Why can't I sue?
00:12:56.000 What if so many kids have autism?
00:12:58.000 Can't ask that question.
00:12:59.000 You're anti-science if you ask why now one in 34 kids have autism.
00:13:04.000 Okay, well, maybe it's the vaccine.
00:13:06.000 Maybe it's not.
00:13:06.000 But what other explanation do you have?
00:13:08.000 We diagnose it better.
00:13:10.000 And that's not the only thing he talks about, by the way.
00:13:12.000 He talks about the deep state.
00:13:13.000 He talks about the unelected bureaucrats.
00:13:17.000 It's not the only thing that is part of his political repertoire.
00:13:22.000 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is one of the most articulate and thoughtful political activists going after the administrative state in the fourth branch of government.
00:13:31.000 And I would say this right here: I would vote for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for president over Mitt Romney any day.
00:13:37.000 I would vote for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for president over Lady Graham any day.
00:13:43.000 Against Donald Trump?
00:13:44.000 No, I'd vote for Donald Trump, obviously.
00:13:46.000 But I think it's really helpful all of a sudden where you have a conservative that I am, and that many of you are, that we're saying, hey, there's somebody in the Democrat Party that even though we have fundamental political differences, that might actually be trying to go on a virtuous and a righteous crusade to fight for the forgotten man and woman to go after the administrative state.
00:14:07.000 Let me actually read this here.
00:14:09.000 He says this: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says, sounds better than actually Willard Romney.
00:14:15.000 Quote, if I run, my top priority will be to end the corrupt merger between state and corporate power that has ruined our economy, shattered the middle class, polluted our landscapes and waters, poisoned our children, and robbed us of our values and freedoms.
00:14:34.000 Together, we can restore America's democracy.
00:14:36.000 Okay, the polluted our landscapes and waters, I think, is a little overblown, but you got to do the environmentalist thing.
00:14:41.000 We could just say, okay, fine.
00:14:43.000 Don't like that use the word democracy, prefer it would be a republic.
00:14:47.000 But that's my only feedback.
00:14:48.000 The rest of it I love.
00:14:49.000 Shattering the middle class. 0.90
00:14:51.000 Heck yeah, that's what they've done.
00:14:52.000 Ruined our economy.
00:14:53.000 You better believe it.
00:14:54.000 Robbed us of our values and freedoms.
00:14:57.000 Yes.
00:14:59.000 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is raging against left-wing fascism.
00:15:06.000 Good for him.
00:15:08.000 By the way, he's very open as to why his family members had to be killed.
00:15:12.000 He says that.
00:15:13.000 That's his words, not mine.
00:15:15.000 He's criticizing the corrupt merger between corporate America and the state, this creation of a new Leviathan.
00:15:23.000 So how successful will he be in the Democrat primary?
00:15:26.000 I have no idea.
00:15:27.000 But now that he's an active candidate, he's able to raise money.
00:15:30.000 He's able to ask questions.
00:15:31.000 He's able to build consensus.
00:15:33.000 As a Kennedy, he already has a built-in name ID advantage, obviously.
00:15:37.000 He's going to be able to go on television programs.
00:15:39.000 That'll be the question, though.
00:15:41.000 The media is only going to be able to ignore him so much.
00:15:44.000 Hilariously, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Running for the presidency as a Democrat will be much better received on conservative programming such as this one than left-wing programming because they're all purchased by the pharmaceutical industrial complex and they are cult-like believers in the fake religion of scientism.
00:16:08.000 One of the best aspects or one of the most important aspects of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s work is he is not a disciple of the religion of scientism.
00:16:18.000 He does not believe that we should seek out and change nature in our image.
00:16:22.000 He believes that unelected private groups of mad scientists can wreak havoc on a society and a civilization.
00:16:28.000 You see, he got his start as a plaintiff lawyer against corporate power.
00:16:34.000 I think some of those people are really bad actors.
00:16:36.000 I think some of those people do a good job.
00:16:38.000 But the fact that he's decided to wage a battle against the pharmaceutical companies, whoo, that is the third rail, the third rail.
00:16:46.000 You're not allowed to do that.
00:16:47.000 You are not allowed to ask questions against Pfizer, Johnson, and Johnson.
00:16:51.000 Just take your drugs.
00:16:52.000 Stop asking questions.
00:16:54.000 In some ways, it's like Genesis 50, 20, what man meant for evil, God will use for good.
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00:18:17.000 This is a week that many people will not forget.
00:18:19.000 An indictment of a former president.
00:18:21.000 Joining us now is President Trump's attorney, Alina Haba.
00:18:25.000 Welcome to the program, Alina.
00:18:26.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:18:27.000 How are you?
00:18:28.000 I'm doing well.
00:18:29.000 So I have several questions, but first, what is kind of the attitude the president has right now?
00:18:36.000 Give us some insight into his resolve, his, you know, where his head's at after this ridiculous indictment that we've seen come out of the Manhattan DA's office.
00:18:47.000 Sadness primarily for the country.
00:18:51.000 Definitely not for himself.
00:18:52.000 I think he keeps saying this is unbelievable.
00:18:55.000 This is unbelievable.
00:18:56.000 This shouldn't happen in America.
00:18:59.000 That's really a summation of where he's at.
00:19:02.000 In terms of spirit, he's so resilient, Charlie.
00:19:05.000 I mean, he did his speech.
00:19:08.000 He had dinner.
00:19:09.000 We all got up and, you know, saluted the flag.
00:19:13.000 And he's just patriotic through and through.
00:19:16.000 And this does invigorate him and make him want to fight even harder the more that they come after him.
00:19:22.000 Because like he says, they're not after me.
00:19:25.000 They're after you.
00:19:25.000 I'm just in the way.
00:19:27.000 And the way that they've come after him is very clearly a result of his political success.
00:19:32.000 So can you explain how on earth they're able to delay all the proceedings till December?
00:19:38.000 I mean, this is an extraordinary, this is obviously election interference.
00:19:41.000 And so is it really true the next hearing is going to be in December?
00:19:46.000 Yes, right before the Iowa caucus.
00:19:48.000 That's right.
00:19:49.000 So we have December.
00:19:51.000 We have a date in, I think they discussed having the trial sometime before the election.
00:20:00.000 And I could tell you, as somebody who has many other cases, as you know, that all of my cases seem to have this same timing urgency that I've never seen in New York courts, right?
00:20:12.000 So New York court system, I have some cases for other clients that I've been waiting two years on a motion to dismiss to get heard.
00:20:19.000 These are in the commercial division in the same courts, if not higher level courts than the ones I'm in for Donald Trump.
00:20:26.000 But if you're Donald Trump and you are in the middle of a campaign frenzy and you're ahead in the polls, they are timing them so that everything is done before 2024.
00:20:37.000 That's election interference, in my opinion, right?
00:20:40.000 It doesn't make sense to me that I have so many clients.
00:20:42.000 My practice is almost entirely New York, and I've never seen any cases move to be done, frankly, before 24.
00:20:51.000 I know it sounds like a long time, but if you think about it, and we have backlog for years in New York, it's actually not.
00:20:57.000 They're speeding them up so that they hit certain pivotal points in the campaign.
00:21:02.000 So I want to play a piece of tape here.
00:21:04.000 I'm just confused how on earth you could say that the indictment is about covering up a crime, but you do not mention what the crime actually is.
00:21:12.000 It's Kafka-esque.
00:21:14.000 We can't tell you what you're being charged with.
00:21:14.000 You're on trial.
00:21:16.000 It's a dialogue between this reporter and Alvin Bragg.
00:21:20.000 It's a longer clip.
00:21:21.000 I want to play this and then have your reaction.
00:21:23.000 Play Cut 48.
00:21:24.000 And they were done to conceal another crime, but the indictment does not specifically say what those crimes were.
00:21:31.000 We are assuming, perhaps, that they might be election related.
00:21:34.000 I wonder if you can specify what laws were all struggling.
00:21:39.000 So let me say as an initial matter, the indictment doesn't specify that because the law does not so require.
00:21:44.000 The first is New York state election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to remote a candidacy by unlawful means.
00:21:54.000 But why weren't there those crimes charged?
00:21:56.000 Why weren't we charged with those crimes?
00:21:58.000 Well, I'm not going to go into our deliberate process on what was brought.
00:22:03.000 The charges that were brought were the ones that were brought.
00:22:05.000 The evidence in the law is the basis for those decisions.
00:22:09.000 How is this possible?
00:22:10.000 Have you ever seen an indictment where you say it's a covering up a crime?
00:22:14.000 We can't tell you what crime?
00:22:16.000 How about New York state election law?
00:22:20.000 Elections of presidents are governed by the FEC and federal, federal law.
00:22:26.000 So the FEC already looked at this, already determined years and years and years ago that this was a null issue.
00:22:34.000 There was no case.
00:22:36.000 The federal prosecutors looked at this and decided there was no case.
00:22:41.000 Alvin Bragg did not put details because the details would likely show that this is the exact same case that was debunked twice over seven years and that it is politically motivated.
00:22:52.000 That is what I hear.
00:22:54.000 And I've never heard, look, I'm not a body language expert, but I can tell you that when somebody speaks with a lack of confidence, it's very evident and clear.
00:23:03.000 And that's what I saw when I watched that press conference.
00:23:06.000 It's extraordinary.
00:23:07.000 And so I want to just zero in on something, though.
00:23:09.000 The timing.
00:23:10.000 Who do you think is actually then coordinating the timing?
00:23:12.000 And is there any way to push back against this?
00:23:14.000 Is there any way to challenge it?
00:23:17.000 Yes.
00:23:18.000 There are ways to challenge it.
00:23:19.000 Unfortunately, I've hit these roadblocks myself.
00:23:22.000 You know, it's incredibly difficult to get a fair hearing in the state of New York when you represent Donald Trump.
00:23:28.000 I've had some success, shockingly, but it's difficult.
00:23:32.000 And politics is 100% influencing some of our benches.
00:23:37.000 It scares me as an attorney.
00:23:39.000 It scares me for my profession, but it really scares me as an American.
00:23:43.000 So what we need to do is, you know, and I can't divulge any privileged information in terms of strategy, but we have a very strong team.
00:23:51.000 They know what they're doing.
00:23:52.000 There are motions and avenues that need to be made at the appropriate time.
00:23:56.000 They will be made.
00:23:58.000 But as of now, you know, the first decision in terms of timing just seems way too coincidental.
00:24:05.000 Yeah, it's not just coincidental.
00:24:06.000 It's nefarious and it's intentional.
00:24:10.000 And so my fear now is that there's going to be other kind of just ridiculous prosecutions.
00:24:17.000 Do you have any insight into the latest movements of DOJ, Jack Smith, or Georgia, Fulton County?
00:24:23.000 Yeah, any insight I have would be privileged and I can't really talk about that.
00:24:26.000 I can tell you that I have the same concern that you do.
00:24:30.000 I think that we are, you know, use my client's word in a witch hunt.
00:24:35.000 This truly is a witch hunt.
00:24:37.000 It's madness.
00:24:38.000 It's maddening.
00:24:39.000 There's real crime happening in all these states, but most importantly, New York.
00:24:44.000 We have a situation where people with DUIs, it used to be 5% dismissal rate.
00:24:49.000 Now we're at 50-something percent under this DA.
00:24:51.000 But his entire speech was that he takes crime seriously, record-keeping crime. 0.78
00:24:57.000 And he had to spend the better part of his speech actually, Charlie, going through and explaining how many times he prosecuted people for business records because his case is so ridiculous. 0.82
00:25:08.000 So let's see.
00:25:11.000 I hope that this will look the reaction of the American people should really make people think twice about bringing weak cases for the sake of politics.
00:25:19.000 And I hope that that permeates through some of these other cases.
00:25:23.000 It is for the sake of politics.
00:25:25.000 And I want to play another longer piece of tape here about Rush Limbaugh predicting this.
00:25:29.000 He said they're going to try to do everything they possibly can to use power to destroy the political strength of Donald Trump.
00:25:35.000 Play cut 53 of the great Rush Limbaugh.
00:25:37.000 One of the last pieces of commentary he did, he did before his death.
00:25:41.000 I know they desperately want Trump gone, and I know that they desperately want it codified that Trump cannot run again, because make no mistake, they remain scared to death of you and they remain scared to death of Trump.
00:25:55.000 Trump 75 million, 80 million votes.
00:25:59.000 And I'm going to tell you, you're not going anywhere.
00:26:03.000 Even if Trump does, you're not.
00:26:06.000 They can't separate you from Trump.
00:26:10.000 And more importantly, they can't separate you from the ideas.
00:26:17.000 They can't separate you from MAGA.
00:26:19.000 They can't separate you from Make America Great Again, which I think remains one of our big campaign strengths going forward.
00:26:30.000 They believe that they can destroy this bond that exists between you and Trump if they somehow make Trump look bad, make Trump look like a reprobate, embarrass you about Trump.
00:26:44.000 They can't do it because you came before Trump.
00:26:48.000 Alina, closing thoughts.
00:26:49.000 The great Rush Limbaugh predicted this, your reaction.
00:26:53.000 He predicted it.
00:26:54.000 And more importantly, I take it a step further.
00:26:56.000 I mean, Rush Limbaugh is dead on accurate, but what we are seeing right now with the movement with, you know, he always says MAGA is Make America Great.
00:27:05.000 It's not a cult.
00:27:06.000 It's a movement of caring about this country and being scared of what's happening to the country.
00:27:11.000 So I'm with Rush.
00:27:12.000 They can't really, they can persecute and push him, but it's only making the base and not just the base, new people come into this Make America Great movement in terms of caring for our country, protecting the Constitution and the judicial system.
00:27:27.000 There just shouldn't be selective prosecution.
00:27:29.000 There shouldn't be persecution of a candidate.
00:27:31.000 This is third world stuff.
00:27:32.000 And I think he called it right.
00:27:34.000 But hopefully if we fix our elections, if we get things in order, we'll be able to fix this and stop this in 24.
00:27:42.000 I pray.
00:27:42.000 Alina, keep up the great work.
00:27:43.000 Hope to have you on soon again.
00:27:45.000 Thank you so much.
00:27:46.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:27:48.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.
00:27:49.000 This is how they're reacting to this.
00:27:52.000 Everything with the left is race, which is a great segue to the decline of my hometown, my home city, Chicago.
00:28:01.000 Everything's about race.
00:28:02.000 Race is a veneer.
00:28:04.000 The idea of race is to try to distract you.
00:28:07.000 Keep your eye off the ball. 0.99
00:28:08.000 This is MSNBC, white guilt liberals living a miserable existence. 0.98
00:28:12.000 This is how sloppy, how one-dimensional, how shallow their thinking is. 0.98
00:28:17.000 Play cut 56.
00:28:18.000 And it may or may not be coincidental, but both the DA and the judge are people of color, or the judge, as Judge Kiro was, was ethnically Hispanic, I believe, Latino.
00:28:31.000 And of course, the DA is black.
00:28:34.000 So they have certainly become targets of his in any case and their families. 0.97
00:28:39.000 I mean, this is just so outrageous.
00:28:41.000 As if Donald Trump does not attack or does not criticize people that are also white.
00:28:49.000 Peter Struxtras, Merck, James Comey.
00:28:52.000 I mean, give me a break.
00:28:53.000 Michael Cohen.
00:28:55.000 This is just the resorting back to sectarianism and tribalism is so damaging to our republic.
00:29:04.000 Makes people act in strange and bizarre ways, neurotic ways.
00:29:11.000 Okay, there was some disappointing news, obviously, this week in Chicago.
00:29:16.000 I had a glimmer of hope.
00:29:17.000 You know, they got rid of Lori Lightfoot, and I thought maybe they would put Vallis in.
00:29:21.000 And Vallis is a reasonable guy.
00:29:23.000 He's a Democrat.
00:29:24.000 He wanted to increase funding for the police, public safety, but he lost.
00:29:29.000 The next mayor of Chicago is a Marxist by the name of Brandon Johnson.
00:29:34.000 Brandon Johnson, endorsed by the Chicago Teachers Union.
00:29:38.000 Brandon Johnson was endorsed by all the left-wing socialist working organizations.
00:29:42.000 He has said before he wants to defund the police.
00:29:45.000 He does not care about public safety.
00:29:46.000 He'll be owned and operated by all the same special interests in Chicago.
00:29:50.000 He's worse than Lori Lightfoot on paper.
00:29:52.000 Now, will he actually be technically worse than Lori Lightfoot?
00:29:55.000 I have no idea.
00:29:56.000 But he ran the race card.
00:29:57.000 That's what he did. 0.91
00:29:58.000 He said, oh, yeah, we need a black mayor.
00:29:59.000 As if that matters. 0.89
00:30:00.000 It doesn't matter what the skin color is at all. 0.90
00:30:04.000 And he says, look, I want to build a stronger Chicago. 0.98
00:30:06.000 Just listen to how ridiculous this is.
00:30:08.000 He says, and I will take it from all of us, from working families to immigrant families to our LGBTQ siblings to people in all corners of our city to work and be partners for the change that we need. 0.81
00:30:18.000 He's a revolutionary Marxist.
00:30:20.000 And it really makes you wonder.
00:30:22.000 It makes you think and wonder, why did Chicago do this?
00:30:26.000 Why did Chicago reject a rational and sane voice of Vallis, who would have increased funding for the police and would have pushed back against the teacher unions and not been radical when it comes to economic policy?
00:30:38.000 Why did they go to the direction of Brandon Johnson?
00:30:40.000 And it seems as if the emerging secret sauce is you run somebody who's black, who has ideas like Bernie Sanders, and you just run on a pure race politics campaign. 0.66
00:30:53.000 You get all the socialist type energy, plus the self-hating whites, plus the ethno-narcissists. 0.96
00:31:01.000 And then they just outvote ordinary people who are desperately trying to stop Chicago from sliding into oblivion.
00:31:07.000 It's really a tragic series of events.
00:31:09.000 And Chicago has decided, and it pains me.
00:31:14.000 I love Chicago.
00:31:14.000 I love Illinois.
00:31:15.000 I love what it was.
00:31:16.000 By electing Brandon Johnson and removing Lori Lightfoot and replacing with this maniac, they're just saying, like, yeah, we don't care.
00:31:23.000 We're going to become a third world city. 1.00
00:31:25.000 And it's already on that way.
00:31:26.000 Mag Mile is obliterated.
00:31:28.000 People are leaving Chicago in, you know, record numbers, record rates.
00:31:34.000 And they just don't seem to care.
00:31:36.000 The people of Chicago want to continue to commit suicide.
00:31:40.000 Chicago is now going to continue its downward trajectory in an unrecognizable direction.
00:31:48.000 It's so sad.
00:31:49.000 It's so tragic.
00:31:50.000 And they don't, it doesn't bother them for them.
00:31:52.000 It's all about political power.
00:31:53.000 It's all about control.
00:31:55.000 I mean, I did an event at University of Illinois Chicago.
00:31:57.000 We had a packed house.
00:31:58.000 We had a lot of people there.
00:32:00.000 And we had some great conversations.
00:32:01.000 And people knew they were losing their city.
00:32:04.000 Chicago used to be one of America's and the world's greatest city.
00:32:07.000 Now it's just a joke.
00:32:08.000 It's a joke for crime. 0.95
00:32:10.000 It's a joke for, and Brian Johnson, he doesn't talk about putting black fathers back in the home. 0.99
00:32:15.000 He doesn't talk about stopping black on black crime. 0.99
00:32:18.000 No, it's all about like fighting white supremacy. 0.98
00:32:20.000 Oh, really?
00:32:20.000 Where's the white supremacy in Chicago?
00:32:24.000 It's really interesting and it's sad and it's tragic and it is telling.
00:32:28.000 It's telling the power of the cult of diversity and the religion of anti-racism and the religion of diversity, equity, inclusion.
00:32:38.000 Chicago is one of many cities that were once great.
00:32:40.000 San Francisco has also completely fallen apart.
00:32:42.000 And tragically, yesterday, a really wealthy guy in San Francisco who was a BLM supporter, and it's too bad he died by the sword that he defended.
00:32:52.000 It's really too bad.
00:32:53.000 BLM, anti-police type guy, Bob Lee, no one deserves this type of punishment.
00:32:58.000 He was killed.
00:32:59.000 He was stabbed in San Francisco.
00:33:00.000 The founder of the Cash App, tech executive, wealthy guy, stabbed to death in San Francisco.
00:33:06.000 I don't know if they've arrested who did that yet.
00:33:09.000 And so San Francisco's unrecognizable.
00:33:11.000 New York is unrecognizable.
00:33:12.000 Chicago's unrecognizable.
00:33:14.000 And they're doing it to themselves. 0.72
00:33:17.000 Historians are going to look back at this and they're going to scratch their heads and they're going to say, why is it that people wanted the place that they live to become crummy and crappy and awful?
00:33:32.000 Why is that?
00:33:33.000 Why is that people are continually going in the direction?
00:33:36.000 Why did the most powerful nation ever squander its wealth and its property so quickly and willingly?
00:33:44.000 A historian 100 years from now will write, why didn't they fight harder?
00:33:48.000 Why didn't they care more?
00:33:50.000 Why did they go along with this?
00:33:53.000 And they'll write it probably in Chinese, by the way.
00:33:57.000 Some Chinese historian will write, why did America, which was so strong, decide to be weak?
00:34:04.000 These idea pathogens that we've been fighting, they have significant geopolitical implications.
00:34:10.000 And it's just tragic.
00:34:11.000 The once great city of Chicago made a decision to be weak.
00:34:18.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:19.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:22.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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