The Charlie Kirk Show - The "Media Literacy" Trojan Horse with Ben Weingarten and Libby Emmons

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, Tan the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Libby Emmons joins us from the Postmillennial and Human Events to talk about the trans issue. 1.00

00:00:06.000 And also, Ben Whitgarten from Real Clear Investigations to talk about a new threat to our children. 1.00

00:00:12.000 You can add it to the list.

00:00:14.000 Email us directly, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:17.000 Subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:00:19.000 Open up your podcast app and type in Charlie Kirk Show and get involved at Turning Point USA Today at tpusa.com.

00:00:27.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:28.000 Here we go.

00:00:29.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:31.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:33.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:36.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:40.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:41.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:42.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:44.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:00:49.000 Turning point USA.

00:00:50.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:59.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:02.000 Brought to you by my friends, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage, 888, 888, 1172, or Andrew and Todd.com.

00:01:13.000 Welcome back.

00:01:14.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:01:18.000 With us now is Ben Whitgarten from Real Clear Investigations.

00:01:22.000 It's a very important story.

00:01:23.000 You're not going to hear it anybody else.

00:01:26.000 And it's seemingly innocuous, seemingly very below the radar and just kind of boring.

00:01:31.000 But no, this is important.

00:01:32.000 Ben Whitgarten has revealed and he's reporting that there is a rise of taxpayer-funded media literacy education.

00:01:42.000 It is an effort through K through 12 education to teach young people on what media sources to trust and not trust.

00:01:50.000 And Ben joins us now.

00:01:52.000 Ben, tell us about this.

00:01:54.000 Well, thanks for having me, Charlie.

00:01:56.000 And, you know, to set the context for this, as we've talked about before, there's a war on wrongthink that's gone on in this country.

00:02:05.000 And we've seen a mass public-private sector censorship regime imposed upon us under the guise of protecting health and public safety.

00:02:17.000 And so that's extended from the national security apparatus and the public health authorities to big tech companies, corporate media, and beyond.

00:02:27.000 And in media literacy, among folks whom I interviewed and based upon my examination of relevant materials, documents, and the groups behind the media literacy push, it should certainly be seen at very minimum as part and parcel responsive to this moral panic over misdis and mal information as the powers that be define it.

00:02:52.000 And it's being embedded within schools across the country through growing legislation and oftentimes more and more robust legislation.

00:03:02.000 I talk about in this article in particular, New Jersey, which is mandating media literacy education in its K-12 curriculum.

00:03:10.000 And media literacy education is defined as...

00:03:13.000 So Orwellian.

00:03:14.000 Keep going.

00:03:16.000 It's defined in the most vague and innocuous, as you noted, anodyne, neutral, apolitical kind of terms.

00:03:24.000 Basically, it's you should be able to discern fact from fiction as a student.

00:03:29.000 And media literacy education is going to give you the critical thinking tools to determine the veracity of information and the credibility of the sources behind it.

00:03:41.000 And those who are the biggest purveyors of this, promoters of this, will tell you this isn't about teaching you what to think.

00:03:47.000 It's about teaching students how to think.

00:03:49.000 And it's imperative for our democracy, our democracy, for students to have these skills.

00:03:56.000 So set aside for a moment the fact that we know that this has been used, this kind of rhetoric has been used as a Trojan horse for suppressing and censoring ideas that the authorities don't like and promoting the ideas that they do like.

00:04:10.000 When you actually dig into the groups behind media literacy, what you find is that within media literacy, there's a subspecialty called critical media literacy.

00:04:20.000 And it is a Marxian lens, just like critical race theory, through which to deconstruct the media, which means looking at every story through the prism of race, sex, class, equity, et cetera.

00:04:34.000 One of the biggest organizations behind media literacy education, which is funded including by the federal government, but also big tech companies and corporate media and the like, they actually did an entire annual conference in 2021 devoted to media literacy and social justice.

00:04:51.000 And so it's baked right in.

00:04:53.000 If you look at the materials that are produced by promoters of media literacy education, some of it is, you know, ask basic questions about who is this source?

00:05:03.000 Who funds this source?

00:05:04.000 Who's being interviewed in connection with the story?

00:05:06.000 Obviously, things that you should do if you're critically examining anything that's put out because everything has a message and there's always a voice behind that message.

00:05:15.000 However, then when you get into what are the actual sources, reference materials that they promote, it's sources like from Howard Zinn's, the Howard Zinn project.

00:05:26.000 It sources from PBS around ways to understand the insurrection, quote unquote.

00:05:31.000 It is math through a social justice prism.

00:05:35.000 So this looks like it's presented as civics education.

00:05:40.000 Know how to understand these sources and you'll be a better citizen as a consequence of understanding how to break down the media.

00:05:46.000 But in practice, it seems to slant in one direction.

00:05:49.000 And as I noted, it's increasingly being embraced in states across the country.

00:05:54.000 It's being promoted by the federal government and in federal legislation.

00:05:57.000 And the most Orwellian and potentially disturbing part of this, which we've discussed before, is that the national security apparatus itself has baked media literacy into the Biden administration's national strategy for countering domestic terrorism, which essentially equates wrongthink with a danger to the homeland.

00:06:16.000 And that is the context that's so critical for understanding anything that's promoted by authorities around combating misdis and malinformation.

00:06:26.000 Well, there's a lot there to unpack.

00:06:28.000 I'm curious, Perugo, any further, how did you find out about this?

00:06:32.000 Was this a tip or a lead?

00:06:34.000 Because this is awfully orchestrated.

00:06:36.000 It's multi-states.

00:06:38.000 It seems as if it's centralized.

00:06:40.000 What led you to report on this?

00:06:43.000 Yeah, so there was a big civics bill, federal civics bill, presented as such that was put forth a year or two ago.

00:06:51.000 It's been reintroduced, as well as a regulation, a proposed regulation put forth by the Biden Education Department.

00:07:00.000 And when you actually started to peel back the layers on civics education, it also looked like a Trojan horse for left-wing indoctrination.

00:07:10.000 And always embedded in these civics bills were these lines about the importance of media literacy.

00:07:17.000 Fast forward to this year and just after the dawn of the new year, New Jersey passed this legislation, which was touted as, and the governor signed into law this legislation, touted as the most expansive media literacy education bill in the country.

00:07:31.000 And the rhetoric around that bill got me interested in the story.

00:07:35.000 This was a bill that was passed with broad bipartisan support, including by senators, the people in New Jersey, state senators, the people in New Jersey consider to be pretty conservative.

00:07:45.000 And the state senators were saying this is an anodyne bill.

00:07:48.000 It's bipartisan.

00:07:49.000 It's apolitical.

00:07:50.000 about having a smart and independent, you know, discerning consumers of news with K through 12 students.

00:07:57.000 But two days after that bill was passed, January 6, 2023, Governor Murphy came out and he touted this bill in context of combating essentially future violent insurrections, in his words, that this was about defending our democracy.

00:08:13.000 The not-so-veiled link being that if you hold the wrong ideas, that might make you a domestic terrorist or liable to be a domestic terrorist down the road.

00:08:23.000 And so that got me down the rabbit hole of what is media literacy education?

00:08:27.000 Why would Governor Murphy in New Jersey be talking about it?

00:08:31.000 And what other states and other authorities are looking into it?

00:08:34.000 And I found out that even NATO is funding these massive white papers around media literacy as imperative to defending the transatlantic alliance.

00:08:45.000 Well, the transition.

00:08:46.000 I don't know what the transatlantic alliance, but yeah, keep going.

00:08:49.000 Right.

00:08:50.000 So you see, you start to view it in context of this broader moral panic that I would argue over missed, dis and malinformation.

00:08:59.000 And then all the ways that manifests itself as a pretext towards censoring, moderating, so-called regulating wrongthink.

00:09:08.000 And so even with the best intentions and even with the most neutral language is setting aside that obviously public school teachers skew overwhelmingly left.

00:09:18.000 The librarian organizations who are behind this might skew even more left than the members of the teachers unions that are so powerful in many of these states.

00:09:27.000 You have to view it in this broader context of missed diss and malinformation combating it and the way that has been used to eviscerate our most fundamental liberties.

00:09:37.000 And so that got me really attuned to this, put it on my radar, and I thought it was worth reporting on because there's so much focus on these various aspects of schools as indoctrination centers.

00:09:47.000 New Jersey in particular, as you would imagine, is a progressive state, has incorporated environmentalist kind of education, gender ideology in the classrooms, and of course was very draconian with its coronavirus related policies.

00:10:00.000 And these very same people are the ones touting, combating missed, diss and malinformation.

00:10:04.000 And so I think that should spark the radars of everyone across the country, particularly because these bills are passing in red states and blue states and being proposed in state legislators across the country at an increasing rate since 2016, of course, when Donald Trump rose and was elected.

00:10:22.000 This is just, you think you have all the different threats identified to our republic, and then we have you come on our show.

00:10:29.000 You're like, no, actually, there's this incredibly well-funded international effort on a very specific issue that's in, you just add it to the list, right?

00:10:37.000 Oh, okay.

00:10:37.000 So not only do we have critical race theory, open borders, tech censorship, trans stuff, outright anti-Christian behavior, but just add it to the list.

00:10:50.000 I want to talk about relieffactor.com.

00:10:52.000 I want you guys to check out relieffactor.com, 100% drug-free, knee pain, back pain, joint pain, elbow pain.

00:10:57.000 Check out Relief Factor Energy.

00:10:59.000 Help makes your body make nutrients readily available.

00:11:03.000 Relief Factor Sleep.

00:11:04.000 I know a lot of you are probably having trouble sleeping.

00:11:06.000 Relief Factor Sleep could be the best solution for you.

00:11:09.000 Everybody goes to bed.

00:11:10.000 Not everybody sleeps.

00:11:12.000 We're all about helping people live lives that are filled with connection, exploration, passion, and emotion.

00:11:17.000 That is what his life is all about.

00:11:18.000 Make sure you guys are sleeping well.

00:11:20.000 It's a major part of life.

00:11:22.000 Check it out right now, relieffactor.com, relieffactor.com.

00:11:28.000 So I'm curious.

00:11:31.000 Often I'm confronted by sometimes donors and they say, Charlie, we need to bring civics back into education.

00:11:38.000 Ben, sometimes is it Republicans pushing for that?

00:11:42.000 That actually is not a good idea is what you're saying.

00:11:43.000 No, you're saying, wait, hold on.

00:11:45.000 If you're going to agree with civics, you actually might get critical race theory Marxist civics, right?

00:11:52.000 Yeah, you know, this is how the left works when they take over institutions. 0.74

00:11:58.000 And let's note that, of course, of all the institutions for the future, obviously the public schools are probably the most imperative of them all, which is why you noted before the break, we have myriad threats and we're fighting a thousand front war, if not a 10,000 front war.

00:12:14.000 But the schools are obviously ground zero.

00:12:16.000 One of the reasons, by the way, that I think the Biden administration went out and labeled critical parents domestic terrorists and sick counterterrorism authorities on them precisely to chill that opposition, because this is the key point.

00:12:31.000 This is ground zero.

00:12:32.000 This is the core nerve center for perpetuating the regime's ideology and then ultimately its power.

00:12:40.000 So, yes, civics, of course, while everyone likes the concept of civics.

00:12:44.000 Everyone believes that schools should be about preparing citizens to ultimately go out and contribute to their country.

00:12:51.000 Obviously, the left has a very different view of what that should look like.

00:12:55.000 And they've actually pioneered a concept called action civics.

00:12:58.000 And action civics, of which media literacy is a part because it's geared at the end of the day towards quote unquote democratic action, what action civics is about is ultimately shown to be agitation, protesting, social justice activism, and the like.

00:13:15.000 So it's looking at American history, our Constitution, our core documents, our entire Republican system through the favored lens of the left.

00:13:26.000 But obviously, because it has civics in the name and it's pushed as educating citizens so they can be productive members of our democracy, that's used as a wedge, as a Trojan horse.

00:13:37.000 And again, media literacy oftentimes falls as a subcategory, a bucket beneath these sorts of civics bills.

00:13:44.000 And I'd urge everyone to check out Stanley Kurtz's writings on this because he's done deep dives on these otherwise very dry and dense materials, which show themselves to be thinly veiled, essentially CRT-focused guidebooks under the guise of preparing for a vibrant civics.

00:14:04.000 Based on your research, how many Republicans are going along with this?

00:14:07.000 I mean, or is that finally waking up?

00:14:10.000 Because I know a lot of Republican donors, efforts that have given millions of dollars to try to get civics in our schools, and they've probably just been funding hatred of America.

00:14:20.000 We'll put it this way: in Texas, there was a huge high-profile battle over civics legislation that was considered there.

00:14:29.000 And while the worst parts of it from the perspective of progressive indoctrination were ultimately carved out of it, the fact that there was such a huge battle in a place like Texas, I think,

00:14:41.000 is illustrative of the fact that it's very easy for people, including well-intentioned Republicans and even conservatives, to be hoodwinked by this and to not look into the materials that are actually being advocated for in connection with civics and the groups behind those materials as well.

00:15:01.000 And so it's incumbent upon Republican lawmakers when they hear civics as a buzzword being brought up in legislation to know that that can be used as a Trojan horse.

00:15:12.000 And like everything else with the progressive left, whatever the stated intent of it is, whatever the title of the bill is, usually it actually means the opposite.

00:15:21.000 But take, for example, this, the notion of a TikTok ban, for example, which has been bandied about, but which we know when you actually go into the legislation, well, this is actually about far more than TikTok.

00:15:31.000 And you know that this could be used and weaponized against nearly anyone under the sun.

00:15:35.000 And what happens when the government says, well, you take the wrong line on a particular national security or foreign policy issue?

00:15:41.000 You're an agent of the Russians or the Chinese, et cetera.

00:15:44.000 And then they use that as a pretext to go after moderating so-called your speech here.

00:15:49.000 There are analogs to be found in every single one of these areas.

00:15:53.000 And it shows you the battle when you have every institution that's controlled by people who fundamentally want to change the country and eviscerate and completely alienate and marginalize.

00:16:04.000 People are revolutionaries.

00:16:05.000 They do not stop.

00:16:06.000 And Ben, I'm glad you exposed it, but I'll just reinforce what I said earlier.

00:16:09.000 You know, you think you have every single threat identified, right? 0.99

00:16:11.000 The Chinese Communist Party, lockdowns, vaccine, debt deficit, inflation, the stupid war that we're involved in in eastern Ukraine. 0.98

00:16:22.000 And you're like, oh, actually, no, there's also a very strategic effort to teach your kids how to watch the news through a Marxist lens. 0.98

00:16:30.000 Ben, great job.

00:16:31.000 Thank you so much.

00:16:32.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.

00:16:37.000 I want to tell you guys about my friends, Andrew and Todd.

00:16:39.000 I'm actually been working with Todd on a project here, something that we're trying to get done.

00:16:43.000 And he's so responsive.

00:16:44.000 He's so amazing.

00:16:45.000 Everybody, I refer to Andrew and Todd for mortgage needs.

00:16:48.000 They are overwhelmingly happy.

00:16:50.000 Look, dealing with most banks is a total pain.

00:16:52.000 I can tell you from experience, I am not a fan when you have to fill out all those mortgage documents.

00:16:57.000 It is a pain.

00:16:59.000 Andrew and Todd make it personal, fun.

00:17:00.000 They love the Lord.

00:17:01.000 They're patriots.

00:17:02.000 They're lighthearted.

00:17:03.000 They're whimsical.

00:17:04.000 I really enjoy working with them.

00:17:06.000 And I can say from personal experience, I have gone through the process with them and they are fabulous.

00:17:11.000 So, look, if you're knowing somebody to relocate, upsize, downsize your current home, and look, it might almost be a buyer's market.

00:17:19.000 Yes, I know interest rates are high.

00:17:20.000 You could refinance in the future.

00:17:21.000 But look at some of these prices.

00:17:23.000 You could get a bargain.

00:17:24.000 For those of you that are the Zillow hunters out there that are constantly saving things in your Zillow profile, I'm not telling you to buy, but I'm seeing a 20% price reduction in certain neighborhoods, 15% price reduction, 10% price reduction.

00:17:37.000 It might get to the place where all of a sudden you're like, hey, I got to move my family into a home.

00:17:42.000 We got to stop renting.

00:17:43.000 We want to own.

00:17:44.000 I know interest rates are high, but you can always refinance.

00:17:48.000 And in fact, ask Andrew and Todd about trying to avoid a pre-payment penalty, which means there's no downside, except that you might have a high interest rate for a short period of time.

00:17:57.000 But that's not an excuse not to get into the market as prices are falling.

00:18:01.000 If it's right for you, and if you're doing something else, by the way, if you're relocating, upsizing, downsizing, taking equity out of your home, they have the answers.

00:18:08.000 You go to andrewandtodd.com.

00:18:10.000 They're your loan problem solvers and solution providers with decades of experience to know how to create the perfect plan for you.

00:18:16.000 And I'll be very honest.

00:18:17.000 I once did a mortgage with one of the big, bad, woke banks.

00:18:21.000 I'm never doing that again.

00:18:22.000 Stop doing mortgage business with people who hate you.

00:18:26.000 I went through that whole thing.

00:18:27.000 It's a disaster.

00:18:28.000 It's a catastrophe.

00:18:29.000 I don't like it.

00:18:30.000 I know you don't either.

00:18:31.000 So if you have any mortgage needs, make a promise to yourself that you're going to use a mortgage company with somebody who sees the world the way you do.

00:18:39.000 They share your values.

00:18:40.000 They have a worldview that is consistent.

00:18:42.000 They love America.

00:18:44.000 They're not woke. 1.00

00:18:44.000 They don't believe any of that crap. 1.00

00:18:45.000 So go to AndrewandTodd.com and fill out the quick form. 0.99

00:18:49.000 Call them at 888888 1172.

00:18:51.000 That's AndrewandTodd.com, 888, 888, 1172.

00:18:55.000 When I was working with them on a project and trying to get something done, they text you back almost immediately.

00:19:01.000 How many bankers, when you deal with something, are actually able to text you on the weekends, nights?

00:19:06.000 Personal touch is everything, and they're great people.

00:19:09.000 AndrewandTodd.com.

00:19:10.000 Check it out.

00:19:10.000 AndrewandTodd.com.

00:19:15.000 Joining us now is Libby Evans, Human Events and the Postmillennial.

00:19:18.000 She's one of the clearest thinkers on the trans issue.

00:19:21.000 Libby, welcome back to the program.

00:19:24.000 What a terrible couple days and what a disappointing news cycle that has followed of sensitivity to pronouns and trans people, but not to dead children.

00:19:35.000 Libby, before we dive into it, just the floor is yours, your thoughts, and we'll go from there.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, I was as stunned as you were, Charlie, when I saw on Monday that there was another school shooting.

00:19:45.000 And it was even more shocking to see that it was carried out this time by a young woman.

00:19:50.000 And that it turns out that that young woman actually believed that she was a male and used pronouns that were male pronouns.

00:19:58.000 It was really a surprise to see that.

00:20:00.000 And in the days that followed, in the hours that followed, even more surprising and horrifying to well, perhaps not more horrifying, but pretty surprising was that mainstream media outlets started advocating for the use of these he/him pronouns and were prioritizing the use of pronouns over discussing the you know victims and the children that were killed and things like that.

00:20:28.000 So it was it was pretty surprising.

00:20:30.000 Also, then we saw on Twitter, Twitter started banning people who were talking about this other thing, which is upcoming on Saturday in Washington, D.C. Several networks, some of them Antifa affiliated, all of them trans advocacy groups, are organizing what they are calling a trans day of vengeance outside of the Supreme Court.

00:20:53.000 And what is this even about?

00:20:54.000 They're talking about bringing buddies wearing masks as though they think it's still the summer of 2020 out there.

00:21:00.000 And they're still going ahead with this despite the shooting.

00:21:04.000 And the other thing, too, as I was looking into this this morning, this day of vengeance, which actually the post-millennials' Twitter account was locked yesterday for reporting on this.

00:21:15.000 Our senior editor, Andy No, his Twitter account also locked for reporting on this, as was that of Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:21:25.000 Her Twitter account locked, temporarily suspended, simply for reporting that this is happening.

00:21:32.000 And if you go to the website for Trans Action Network, you can see that they're still fully advocating for this day to go forward.

00:21:43.000 You can see that there's t-shirts that have, you know, rifles on them that say, you know, trans day of vengeance and all of these kinds of things.

00:21:53.000 It's pretty surprising to see where we're headed as a society when these people who advocate for child sex changes can have impunity on social media for planning violent demonstrations in our nation's capital.

00:22:13.000 So I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:22:15.000 I want to go to this one.

00:22:18.000 These are bloodthirsty people, some of them. 1.00

00:22:20.000 The trans world is full of some of the most violent, vile, nasty people. 1.00

00:22:25.000 They totally get away with it, incredibly radical. 0.99

00:22:28.000 And then I'd say every person who thinks they are a different sex suffers from this, but this community has a violent undercurrent that is very, very scary.

00:22:41.000 Don't believe me?

00:22:42.000 Watch this one, Play Cut 74.

00:22:44.000 And people like JK Rowling need to stop because my people are dying because of her.

00:22:50.000 She is killing us. 1.00

00:22:52.000 Oh, but there's one more good thing about this book.

00:22:54.000 J.K. Rowling dies. 1.00

00:22:57.000 Yeah, Gretchen had the nerve to kill off the queen of the turfs, and it is glorious. 1.00

00:23:02.000 I only wish that scene could have been even more brutal. 0.92

00:23:05.000 More brutal, fantasizing the death and the slaughter of J.K. Rowling.

00:23:09.000 I'm going to play another piece of tape here. 0.79

00:23:11.000 This is some trans activist.

00:23:14.000 The video goes on for a while calling for the death, the beating, and the slaughter of police officers and people they disagree with.

00:23:21.000 Play Cut 73. 0.52

00:23:23.000 Trans people in Tennessee, it's time to fight. 1.00

00:23:26.000 You're going to die anyways. 1.00

00:23:27.000 We're going to die anyways. 1.00

00:23:29.000 It's time to exist. 0.98

00:23:31.000 Fight them. 0.99

00:23:32.000 Hurt them. 1.00

00:23:33.000 Carry a weapon at all times. 0.99

00:23:36.000 And yes, you have to attack the police officer.

00:23:39.000 And if they lock you in prison, up the guards.

00:23:44.000 I'll tell you something.

00:23:45.000 If a police officer put his hands on me for trying to be who I am, I don't care if I got shot.

00:23:50.000 I've taken a couple of trans folks with me.

00:23:52.000 And I suggest you do the same.

00:23:54.000 The time for debate is over.

00:23:56.000 It's a waste of time. 0.96

00:23:59.000 Human events article, the trans vengeance movement has led to a series of assaults and now the murder of Christian children. 0.52

00:24:05.000 Libby, your thoughts. 0.99

00:24:07.000 I thought that person was very scary, and I certainly hope to never encounter someone like that walking down the street.

00:24:15.000 You know, as a woman, I find violent men in dresses to be frightening and disturbing. 1.00

00:24:22.000 Yeah, so we see this trans vengeance movement. 0.95

00:24:26.000 We see it heading along into the weekend and we see them being upheld by mainstream media outlets, the New York Times, USA Today, both dealing with the whole pronoun thing instead. 0.67

00:24:40.000 And what I find really amazing also is that this trans day of vengeance is being organized on the basis that there is a huge amount of hate directed at trans people and that there is some sort of trans genocide going on.

00:24:56.000 The fact of the matter is that there is not a trans genocide going on at all.

00:25:02.000 If you look at the numbers of people who have died violently, who are transgender, it is a very small number of people.

00:25:11.000 Last year, it was under 40 people.

00:25:14.000 The year before, it was also under 40 people.

00:25:17.000 There's no genocide.

00:25:18.000 And for the most part, when you look up the names of the individuals who are trans, who were victims of homicide, which of course is a terrible thing for them, obviously, and for their families.

00:25:29.000 But when you look up their names, you are not seeing hate crimes charges.

00:25:34.000 You are not seeing hate crimes allegations.

00:25:37.000 You are seeing issues of drug deals gone bad.

00:25:40.000 You are seeing issues involving sex work.

00:25:44.000 You are seeing domestic violence, domestic partner violence, and this sort of thing is what is going on.

00:25:50.000 There are not roving gangs of genocidal maniacs going around killing men who are wearing dresses or women who, you know, pretend that they're men.

00:25:59.000 That's just not happening in this country.

00:26:02.000 And a lot of the ideas that there was a trans genocide came from a report out of Brazil a few years ago, where sex workers who are men who identify as women or dress as women or what have you were being killed in Brazil, not in the U.S.

00:26:21.000 So these numbers are just entirely fabricated in order to uphold this horrifying ideology.

00:26:28.000 And also, when you look at what they're talking about when they say that there is hate directed at trans people, they specifically call out legislation that is either newly on the books or being proposed in many states across the country.

00:26:43.000 And this legislation is opposed to child sex changes.

00:26:48.000 So you have people saying that we hate them because we do not want our children to be medically mutilated in service to a lie.

00:26:56.000 Does that make sense at all?

00:26:57.000 That's not hate.

00:26:59.000 That is wanting children to grow up whole and healthy. 0.52

00:27:02.000 And somehow that has been transmogrified into hate by these people who are, you know, taking an awful lot of cross-sex hormones, which I can't imagine is good for the brain.

00:27:13.000 Yeah, I mean, so that let's talk about that.

00:27:16.000 These are people that are already unstable, and that's a fact.

00:27:20.000 And we're making them more unstable by pumping them with testosterone replacement therapy and in some cases, Lupron.

00:27:28.000 And it depends on what side they're going to, right?

00:27:31.000 What you're going, or estrogen.

00:27:33.000 Both are bad, right?

00:27:34.000 And by the way, it screws up your body's own ability to regulate your hormones, can make you hyperaggressive.

00:27:40.000 It can make you very depressed.

00:27:42.000 And then these doctors, who really aren't doctors, they're butchers.

00:27:45.000 Then they'll just say, oh, just take some benzos or take some Zoloft or take some Xanax as just a way to cover up for it.

00:27:52.000 And then they might gain a bunch of weight and they got to get on some other drug for that. 0.63

00:27:56.000 Oh, Zempec. 0.99

00:27:56.000 Yeah, Zembec. 0.99

00:27:58.000 Isn't that the new one? 1.00

00:27:59.000 Yeah.

00:27:59.000 And so then it creates this cascade of interventions and maybe even violence.

00:28:04.000 Is that fair to talk about, Libby?

00:28:07.000 I think that is fair to talk about.

00:28:09.000 And we have seen reporting over the last year, even coming out of the New York Times, about the unhealthy cocktails of drugs, antipsychotic drugs and antidepressants and all of these things that are being described to children and teenagers.

00:28:25.000 They are being prescribed off-label, in term, not off-label, what's the term?

00:28:30.000 They're not recommended by the FDA for these purposes.

00:28:34.000 And children are being prescribed these.

00:28:36.000 We've seen a lot of the children that are being prescribed, these massive cocktails of drugs, are young boys in foster care who are trying to, they're trying to control these kids.

00:28:48.000 They're giving them lots of drugs. 0.78

00:28:49.000 And now we have children who are taking puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

00:28:56.000 And a lot of these kids also are dealing with other mental and emotional issues.

00:29:02.000 The young woman who was killed on Monday after taking the lives of three people at the school that she once attended was also reportedly dealing with emotional distress, was being treated for that, was also reportedly high-functioning, autistic, and was dealing with that.

00:29:21.000 And then on top of that, had this other thing going on.

00:29:24.000 There has not been any conclusive report that she was taking cross-sex hormones.

00:29:32.000 But, you know, that's certainly a possibility.

00:29:35.000 And it's unclear if that's what was going on.

00:29:37.000 But clearly, she had other issues as well.

00:29:41.000 Libby, tell us about some of the other violence that has been occurring.

00:29:45.000 There's been so much.

00:29:47.000 There has been a lot under the guise that it is hate to protect children from child sex changes or hate to say that women's sports should be for women only or hate to say that women should have sex segregated bathrooms.

00:30:01.000 There has been an outstanding amount of violence committed by trans advocates.

00:30:06.000 Now, these people do not represent the entire community of people who have alternative sexual identities or people who identify as the opposite sex from what they actually are.

00:30:20.000 But they are an incredibly vocal majority amount of people.

00:30:25.000 I don't know if it is necessarily the majority.

00:30:27.000 We'd have to check that out.

00:30:28.000 But there has been a lot of violence.

00:30:30.000 Kelly J. Keen, who also goes by Posey Parker, was doing a Let Women Speak tour.

00:30:37.000 She's done this in the UK and the US.

00:30:39.000 She was in Australia and she was in New Zealand.

00:30:41.000 There was some violence at the Melbourne event when a trans-identified male stormed stage, grabbed the microphone, pushed women aside, and was taken down by two very large Burley security guards.

00:30:53.000 But when Keene went to New Zealand, things really heated up.

00:30:58.000 There was a petition prior to her arrival in the country suggesting that she not be allowed into the country at all.

00:31:06.000 And her tour, what she does is she tells local women, hey, why don't you come speak up about this? 1.00

00:31:11.000 It's easier to do this in numbers.

00:31:12.000 And so local women showed up to speak in New Zealand as well.

00:31:17.000 And there was an elderly woman who was head-butted and punched by a man.

00:31:22.000 There was a mom who was there with her 10-year-old daughter. 0.98

00:31:26.000 And she reported that a man came up to them, lifted up his shirt, and started fingering his nipples, demanding that they recognize his breasts. 0.97

00:31:36.000 So that was one thing that happened. 0.91

00:31:38.000 This mom and 10-year-old were also surrounded by activists and they feared for their safety.

00:31:46.000 When Kelly J. Keene showed up herself, she ended up being doused with tomato juice. 1.00

00:31:52.000 She was terrified for her life and she was escorted out of the area directly to the airport.

00:31:57.000 This all because she was speaking up for the rights of women and girls to have their own sex segregated spaces where they can be free from interference by men who may be predators. 0.98

00:32:09.000 That's suddenly unreasonable.

00:32:12.000 You gave a talk at UC Davis, and we saw that activists showed up there.

00:32:19.000 They were very violent.

00:32:20.000 They broke windows.

00:32:21.000 They assumed that because you speak out against child sex changes, and we need to be very clear that that's what this is: child sex changes.

00:32:30.000 The idea that a child can change sex or that this should be advocated for is, of course, absolutely absurd.

00:32:37.000 Yet there they were believing that you were in some way violent yourself because you are in favor of children not transitioning to the opposite sex.

00:32:47.000 So we saw that.

00:32:48.000 We've seen leaders of universities come out and say that anyone who opposes child sex changes is in some way violent themselves when really the violation is against children, it's against nature, and it's against humanity and our future.

00:33:04.000 And so final question, Libby. 0.81

00:33:06.000 Why are so many women going along with this? 1.00

00:33:10.000 We ask the question all the time: where are the feminists? 1.00

00:33:12.000 Any update there?

00:33:13.000 We found them yet?

00:33:15.000 Yeah, no, I think that it's important to remember, and as someone who has identified in the past as a feminist, as someone who believes in women's equal rights, which we, of course, have in this country, which exist in the UK and Australia and New Zealand.

00:33:34.000 But looking around, I do think it's important to remember that it's very easy for men to push women around.

00:33:40.000 This happens all the time. 0.97

00:33:42.000 That's the trans movement, though. 1.00

00:33:43.000 That's what's so bizarre about all of this. 1.00

00:33:48.000 Yeah, it's the same old misogyny, only now it's dressed up in heels and little dresses, and men fingering their nipples, demanding that we call them breasts. 0.99

00:33:57.000 I wonder where the women are. 0.99

00:33:59.000 Even more, though, I wonder where the men are.

00:34:02.000 Why aren't there more men speaking up for women?

00:34:05.000 Why aren't there more men speaking up for children? 0.96

00:34:08.000 Why aren't there more men saying this is not right?

00:34:11.000 You know, and the men who do speak up for it are vilified not only by trans activists, but by women who call themselves feminists and claim to be speaking up for a women's train.

00:34:21.000 I'm not avoided for even asking the question, Libby, of where the men are.

00:34:24.000 Can't say that.

00:34:25.000 You just have to kind of just remain beta and subservient.

00:34:28.000 Libby, thank you so much.

00:34:29.000 Check out Human Events and also the Postmillennial.

00:34:31.000 Thank you so much.

00:34:32.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:34.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:37.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:34:43.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 30, 2023

The "Media Literacy" Trojan Horse with Ben Weingarten and Libby Emmons

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript