00:00:00.000Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, The Great Conflation, how the media is conflating peaceful Trump supporters with people that did things that, quite honestly, we have denounced and that no one supports.
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00:00:47.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:53.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:05.000With the Turning Point USA movement, I have the honor of traveling to college campuses and engage in rigorous debate with the next generation.
00:01:13.000When you talk to as many students as I do, there are several familiar themes.
00:01:17.000I see disillusionment with the media, a lack of hope in their job prospects, and I hear them claim that they're victims and deserve better.
00:01:23.000Whether college students realize it or not, they are forming ideologies that will affect the way they think and treat others for a lifetime.
00:01:29.000I like to recommend a great book to any young person in this time of life.
00:01:32.000It's called Reflections on the Existence of God by the best-selling author Richard Simmons III.
00:01:37.000This guy doesn't shy away from the hard questions of life.
00:01:40.000Reflections on the existence of God is a collection of short essays that tackle the biggest questions of all.
00:03:00.000But Pelosi has made it very clear in a letter to her members that if Pence refuses to act, Democrats will immediately move to force Trump from office for his role in, quote, inciting violent riots at the Capitol on Wednesday.
00:03:14.000They repeat it three times in just the first couple paragraphs here.
00:03:17.000And so what we've seen here is now that House Democrats have given an ultimatum of sorts.
00:03:22.000They have said that if Vice President Pence does not enact the 25th Amendment, which the Vice President can enact with the agreement of cabinet officials to remove the President of the United States, then she will have an impeachment vote on the House floor.
00:03:39.000This would not be the first impeachment fight, as many of you know.
00:03:42.000The first impeachment fight was nine, about a year ago, when Adam Schiff and the crew decided to impeach President Donald Trump over a simple phone call.
00:03:55.000And so a lot of this is around the inciting of violence.
00:04:00.000Now, what does that exactly mean to incite violence?
00:04:02.000That is something that is really open for interpretation.
00:04:08.000I want to get into the incitement timeline.
00:04:11.000But first, I want to get, because there's a lot wrong with how the Democrats have been portraying this.
00:04:17.000But first, I want to read from this great piece in the Wall Street Journal from Jeffrey Scott Shapiro.
00:04:25.000House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of, quote, incitement to insurrection.
00:04:32.000Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is, quote, looking at all actors here and anyone that had a role in the Capitol riot.
00:04:41.000Some reporters have constructed that as including Mr. Trump.
00:04:45.000But it continues by saying the president didn't commit incitement or any other crime.
00:04:50.000As the Washington prosecutor, I earned the nickname, quote, protester prosecutor, from the anti-war group Code Pink.
00:04:57.000In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt.
00:05:04.000In another, I convicted a Code Pink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at the then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room and incited the audience to seize the Secretary of State physically.
00:05:16.000In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard of incitement.
00:05:23.000Hostile journalists and lawmakers have suggested Mr. Trump incited the riot when he told a rally that Republicans need to, quote, fight much harder.
00:05:30.000Mr. Trump suggested the crowd walk to the Capitol, quote, we're going to cheer on brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you'll never take back your country's weakness.
00:05:43.000Now, Josh Shapiro continues by saying, in D.C., it's a crime to, quote, intentionally or recklessly act in such a manner to cause another person to be in reasonable fear, or, quote, to incite or provoke violence when there in a likelihood that such violence will ensure.
00:06:29.000You know, I find it interesting Congress is spending the day and potentially the next few weeks focused solely on this issue of impeaching President Trump when they could be working on a million other things to actually benefit the lives of the American people.
00:06:42.000We're still in the midst of an ongoing pandemic that's negatively affecting millions of people in this country who are out of work, who've been forced to close their businesses, who can't go back to school.
00:06:51.000And I find it interesting that instead of catering to those needs and providing for the American people through, I don't know, a better stimulus package or allowing people to reopen their businesses from the federal level, instead we're sitting around debating whether or not the president of the United States is directly responsible for insurrection, which we clearly know he's not.
00:07:08.000So let's go to cut 16, where the president says clearly he wants people to march peacefully and patriotically.
00:07:55.000But yeah, we've seen a very coordinated effort from across the industry and social media and just social networking sites with podcasts and music and movies to ban the president of the United States from engaging in those platforms.
00:08:06.000Let's go to cut 10 of Pelosi saying the president is guilty of inciting an insurrection.
00:08:55.000Dozens of Secret Service members hurt.
00:08:58.000Was that not an attack on our democratic institutions?
00:09:02.000Was that not an attack on the fabric of our country?
00:09:07.000When the BLM activists were reprehensibly attacking the White House, just as the people last week were reprehensibly attacking the Capitol, was that not an attack on our institutions?
00:09:22.000The protests in what was called Black Lives Matter Plaza resulted in the Secret Service becoming so uncertain at the chain of events that the President of the United States was forced to go to the bunker, the nuclear bunker, just because they were not sure whether or not there was going to be a storming of the White House gates.
00:09:49.000Thankfully, the Secret Service did their job.
00:09:51.000And remember what happened after that?
00:09:52.000The Attorney General of the United States, Bill Barr, cleared out the plaza with tear gas, and the Attorney General was attacked for doing such tactics, for clearing out people that were trying to storm the gates of the White House.
00:10:09.000Now, Isabel, you've been in the White House many times.
00:10:11.000With that many people, they could have been successful.
00:10:15.000Let's not forget that during President Obama's second term, an individual actually was successful in climbing over the fence to the White House and made it in the front door, which was a very clear security threat to the residents of the president and the vice president working there, obviously, the first lady living there, and clearly had nefarious intentions in mind.
00:10:34.000And yet, at the same time, we look at an incident like that and what happened last Wednesday, and you can't even compare them in today's media climate.
00:10:41.000Yeah, and so there were attempts to try to breach the White House walls.
00:10:46.000This was never described by the activist media or by anyone in leadership as insurrection.
00:10:52.000It was never treated as insurrection by any law enforcement officials.
00:10:56.000More than 60 Secret Service officers were hurt when this attempted attack came on the White House.
00:11:05.000And so we denounced that and we denounce the capital violence.
00:11:08.000Why is that the left believes that certain forms of violence are acceptable and okay and others are not?
00:11:15.000Well, that is simply because they believe that in the power struggle that they see America, they believe that the rioters for BLM Incorporated are they have a license to do such destruction.
00:11:30.000And yet when they see anyone that is not of their political persuasion doing that, and not even of my political, if you resort to political violence, you are not of my political persuasion.
00:11:41.000Then all of a sudden, they start to say that it's an insurrection.
00:11:49.000Making sure big government and big brother not spying on you is very important.
00:11:54.000With some leadership changes that seem to be coming very, very soon, your data is not safe at all.
00:12:01.000But when you anonymize your connection, you could surf the internet freely without wondering who will get a hold of your search history or viewing habits or what they will do with that information.
00:12:09.000Do you want the government to be reading over your shoulder every time you go online?
00:13:32.000What actually happens if you try to go to Parlor right now?
00:13:35.000It just says that basically the website doesn't exist, interestingly, because the server that hosted the domain for parlor.com is owned by Amazon.
00:13:43.000And yesterday they decided to completely shut down access to the website after the Google App Store and the Apple App Store decided to do the same thing.
00:13:51.000So these are three trillion-dollar companies, Apple, Google, and of course Amazon, or near trillion-dollar companies that have colluded to try and eliminate and destroy a free speech competitor to Twitter.
00:14:06.000This is the closest thing I think we've seen in our lifetime to the burning of books.
00:14:12.000And honestly, it resembles fascism in very scary ways that I never expected to see, especially in a free country like the United States of America.
00:14:37.000I was one of the first users on Parlor.
00:14:39.000And what ended up happening, now what's ended up happening is that because of what happened last week and the misrepresentation and what happened last week, which is what we're going to do in the next segment, we're going to break down piece by piece this intentional mob inflation conflation by the activist media to try to conflate every single human being that was wearing a MAGA hat in the Washington DC zip code as if they were involved in assaulting a police officer, which is not true.
00:15:08.000And I'm going to go through the geography of it.
00:15:09.000I'm going to go through the timeline of it because this is critically important.
00:15:13.000But if you look at now, the fallout from this controversy has now resulted in millions of people unable to receive information.
00:15:32.000So I don't know where the hell the Department of Justice is at right now or the FBI.
00:15:38.000This is clearly a violation of antitrust, civil rights, the RICO statute.
00:15:45.000There should be a racketeering investigation on all the people that coordinated this attack on not only a company, but on all of those like us, like me, like you, Maria.
00:15:58.000And so, Isabel, what's the excuse they're giving for doing this?
00:16:01.000They're saying that the speech policies they have are lightly moderated.
00:16:06.000From what I can tell, the justification, at least from Apple's side of things, on why they took it off the app store was that speech wasn't monitored heavily enough on the Parlor app.
00:16:15.000They're saying that there were numerous instances where people directly incited violence on the app and that was reported but not taken care of.
00:16:22.000I've experienced the opposite on the Parlor app, like you.
00:16:25.000I have an account there, and if there is a very clear violation of their terms of service, those posts get taken down almost immediately.
00:16:33.000So it sounds to me that that's sort of an excuse for covering up speech that they just don't like.
00:16:38.000Yeah, and so here's something that we've been talking about on this program for quite some time, which is if the government were to shut down Parlor, you would be able to sue almost instantaneously and win.
00:16:52.000If the government shut down Parlor, it would be illegal and you would get Parlor back.
00:16:58.000But now you have massive multi-trillion dollar companies that are acting as if they are the government, that they are coming in as the centralized command structure to do what the government maybe wish they could do.
00:17:13.000But this is part of the scary and dangerous reality of the new kind of corporatist environment that we're living in in our country, where these massive multi-trillion dollar companies headquartered in Menlo Park and Seattle have more institutional power than the NSA, than the Department of Justice.
00:17:36.000Even if Congress passed a law to say that we don't like Parler and we don't want it to exist, it would get, unless you change the First Amendment, which would not exactly be popular, and it would take two-thirds of states to change the First Amendment, it would fall flat on its face.
00:17:51.000But now the Democrats and the left realize that they are able to destroy and they are able to punish and bully and quite honestly make certain platforms disappear without an act of Congress, without government actually getting involved.
00:18:10.000And for those of you that are saying, well, we just have to let the market play itself out.
00:18:18.000When you have an incumbent institutional advantage, like Facebook does, like Google does, like Amazon does, and Apple does, on a weekend, you say that your speech policies are too lightly moderated.
00:18:30.000Look, what I found to be so interesting, and I was on Steve Hilton's show last night talking about this, is that Apple came out and they said, well, you have to go change your speech policies.
00:18:59.000This segment is going to be one of the most important segments that I think I have done in recent memory.
00:19:06.000The media is on a diabolical, pathological campaign to conflate two independent events into one, make everyone guilt by association, deplatform, investigate, bully, target, cancel, and destroy at all costs.
00:19:27.000What happened last week is a lot more nuanced than how the media is covering it.
00:19:34.000What happened is around 7 a.m., There was the beginning of the allowance for people to go participate in a constitutionally permitted rally with the President of the United States at the ellipse right near the White House.
00:19:54.000Turning Point Action, our political vehicle, participated as a sponsor of this event.
00:20:02.000This is a constitutionally permitted event on voter integrity, on supporting the President of the United States for all that he's done for our country.
00:20:12.000This event was the only event that many people came to visit.
00:20:19.000This event is the only event that we at Turning Point Action promoted.
00:20:24.000It is the only event that we plan to have our students attend.
00:20:28.000About a 31-minute walk away, two miles, Isabel?
00:22:19.000However, the media is not happy or satisfied with that.
00:22:24.000You see, they're trying to create this overarching, massive, reckless, sloppy, and dare I say, evil indictment that every single human being that was in the zip code of Washington, D.C., that supports President Trump, they're all terrorists.
00:22:42.000That is so beyond reckless, it must be stopped and confronted directly.
00:22:48.000Now, there are some people that came here that went to Washington, D.C. for the sole purpose of trying to go make shenanigans and cause trouble at the Capitol.
00:22:59.000In fact, they didn't even stay for the entire president's speech.
00:23:02.000Some people started to leave a little bit early.
00:23:06.000This was not the hundreds of thousands of people that were there.
00:23:11.000Look at this short clip from Vice News where they show that some people started to leave the Capitol early, started to leave the President's remarks early and go to the Capitol.
00:23:21.000So before I play this tape, how could the President be responsible for incitement when the people at the front of the Capitol shenanigans weren't even there to hear what the president had to say?
00:23:57.000Right, people started to leave, and then all of a sudden they show the barricades.
00:24:00.000The way that this event has been portrayed is as if the president spoke at the east end of the National Gallery of Art and pointed at the Capitol and told everyone to go.
00:24:11.000When in reality, some groups, like ours at Turning Point Action, wanted nothing to do with the Capitol.
00:24:21.000And there were many other groups that were alongside us.
00:24:23.000We said, we're not going to get near the Capitol.
00:24:25.000We're here to support the president independently.
00:24:31.000So the walk from, depending on where you start at the ellipse all the way up to Capitol Hill, where people were demonstrating, is a little over two miles.
00:24:38.000To suggest that people two miles apart are somehow all connected in some plot of insurrection to violently overthrow the government is beyond the paleocrat.
00:24:53.000It's exactly like saying people at the Empire State Building and people at the One World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan are all connected in some plot to do something nefarious.
00:25:03.000And so you have a two-mile distance, and Vice even admitted, I'm going to play the entire Vice clip in a second, but I wanted to stop it because all of a sudden, Vice did a little bit of a trick.
00:25:12.000So they said people started to leave, and then all of a sudden they show these barricades.
00:25:16.000So the impression that you get is as if the barricades are just right down the street.
00:26:05.000Instead, the activist media is just focusing on, they want to create this incredibly sloppy, reckless narrative that it's all looped in together.
00:26:16.000So now let's get into this even further, okay?
00:26:19.000And so I want to play this entire Vice clip.
00:26:22.000This clip, in my opinion, has some very good footage in it right up front of what started to happen.
00:26:29.000And so, however, you're talking about a couple dozen people that should be arrested, whether they were agitators, whether they were Antifa, whether they were far-right, you know, National Socialist worker supporters, okay?
00:27:38.000So this journalist goes from the National Mall to the Capitol.
00:27:42.000Now, interestingly, this journalist was ahead of the curve.
00:27:45.000You know, maybe he had a sneaking suspicion that something was going to happen there.
00:27:49.000But this is the really important part point here, which is that there is understandable outrage out there for people to be held accountable.
00:27:58.000However, the rush to not just judgment, but the rush to try and punish people is against the Western tradition of how we do law in this country.
00:28:16.000And so the peaceful assembly with President Donald Trump right on the ellipse, most of those people went home afterwards.
00:28:24.000Now, let's go to the even bigger point of nuance.
00:28:27.000All the people that then went to the Capitol, okay?
00:28:29.000Now, we sent our students home on our buses and they left.
00:28:34.000However, some people went to the United States Capitol and just decided to kind of sit there and watch and look and wave flags.
00:28:43.000Perfectly permissible with First Amendment rights.
00:28:46.000Now, a lesson that my parents taught me early on is as soon as you see trouble, go the other way.
00:28:51.000I do not think it was good judgment for people that started to see things happen and they're all this and they rush to the...
00:28:59.000Now, that's just, here's a good rule of life.
00:29:02.000You start to see trouble, just go the other way, okay?
00:29:05.000Unless you feel as if your independent action can save an innocent person, okay?
00:29:49.000Just because you do something stupid does not mean you're Timothy McVay.
00:29:55.000Just because you do something that is regrettable does not mean that you're planning an armed insurrection against the United States government.
00:30:03.000Now, the guy that had the zip ties, I hope he goes to jail.
00:30:06.000That's just weird, creepy, wrong, evil, okay?
00:30:09.000The guys that were assaulting police officers, jail.
00:30:13.000But the guys that were just kind of there waving flags and they're walking up the steps, and I'm sure that they regret it.
00:30:21.000I'm sure that a lot of them have said that.
00:30:23.000In fact, in a lot of these arrests, a lot of these people say this was the worst decision of my entire life.
00:30:28.000That doesn't exactly talk like a domestic terrorist trying to overthrow the government, okay?
00:30:32.000That talks like someone that got excited in the heat of the moment that did something dumb.
00:30:44.000So all of a sudden, we went from hundreds of thousands to 15 or 20,000.
00:30:47.000So we're dealing with an independent 10% body of who is there in Washington, D.C.
00:30:52.000The media makes it seem as if every person raised their right hand and said, I will storm the Capitol today, never giving the credit, the nuance, or the factual context to say, you know what, I actually don't want to go do that.
00:31:26.000Okay, because incitement is just such a loose term of in the legal world, most of it's protected under free speech, and everyone is basically and almost always responsible for their own actions, okay?
00:31:39.000You can't say, well, he meant this, that's not going to stand up in a court of law, okay?
00:31:43.000And so, but you look at this picture, I'm sorry, one more time, and that's right near the Washington Monument.
00:31:49.000That's the most important part of the picture, believe it or not.
00:31:57.000Can we get a picture of all the people on the Capitol?
00:32:00.000At the very most, estimates range of 10,000 people that were in the Capitol area and 2,000 people that were on the Capitol.
00:32:08.000Okay, so you go from a rally that has 250 to 300,000 people to 15,000 people surrounding the Capitol to 2,000 people that stormed the Capitol.
00:32:17.000So all of a sudden, whoa, you have everyone that goes to the Trump rally, then all of a sudden people maybe started to walk over and like, something doesn't feel right about this.
00:32:25.000Do they get any credit from the media?
00:32:28.000Do they get any credit from anyone that maybe there was hundreds of thousands of people that were like, I don't know if I want to go to the Capitol?
00:33:56.000I would say at max, a few thousand people right there on the steps.
00:34:00.000I mean, obviously, the picture is only so wide, and the Capitol building is huge if you've never been to Washington, D.C., but that can't be more than a few thousand people.
00:34:10.000And so, and then on top of that, a couple hundred go into the building, okay?
00:34:14.000And so a lot of people, such as our organization, Turning Point Action, we were there simply for the president's speech.
00:34:22.000Other people were there for something at the Capitol.
00:34:24.000There was supposed to be an event where some members of Congress spoke at the Capitol, which is perfectly constitutionally permitted, by the way.
00:35:08.000You're talking at most a couple dozen people that would have sprinted, sprinted like a United States Olympic triathlete, two miles, 40 degrees outside, Running to the Capitol.
00:35:26.000And then you have to make the accusation that they were the ones that were breaking the windows.
00:35:31.000Vice admits that there were some people that were already at the Capitol before the president even started speaking.
00:35:37.000There were some people that were there for the Capitol.
00:35:40.000So, really, what that goes to show is how many people actually went from the ellipse to the Capitol.
00:35:44.000I'm sure that there were, I'm sure there were some.
00:36:25.000This is happening in real-time play tape.
00:36:27.000House Resolution 21, resolution calling on Vice President Michael R. Pence to convene and mobilize the principal officers of the executive departments of the cabinet to activate Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to declare President Donald J. Trump incapable of executing the duties of his office and to immediately exercise powers as acting president.
00:36:51.000For what purpose does the gentleman from West Virginia rise?
00:37:58.000And we have to, we have to, this is such an important thing, everybody.
00:38:02.000I'm telling you right now, we got to get the truth out, or else they're going to use this as an excuse to pass wide-sweeping legislation that will spy on you, that will monitor you.
00:38:13.000And this is what Glenn Greenwald warred about on Tucker Carlson last week.
00:38:17.000Let's see if we can get some tape from that.
00:38:19.000Our team's getting some other eclipse right now.
00:38:22.000But it's so important that we clarify this.
00:38:25.000I have denounced what happened last week.
00:38:27.000I have to say this every segment, or else people have amnesia.
00:38:31.000However, to say that this is the birth of a domestic terrorist movement is nonsensical.
00:38:44.000And Isabel, can you help build that out?
00:38:46.000Yeah, so we saw a very small percentage of the total number of people that were there at the ellipse to hear from President Trump march to the Capitol building.
00:38:54.000Estimates of the number of people that were in the region of the U.S. Capitol building were about a few tens of thousands, maximum about 20,000 people.
00:39:02.000And then the number of people that actually stood on the steps, maybe a few thousand, with a few hundred of those individuals actually entering the United States Capitol building.
00:39:11.000Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of people are still scattered throughout Washington, D.C., most of whom are about two and a half miles away at the Ellipse, which is a park run by the National Park Service right in front of the White House to hear from President Trump.
00:39:24.000To suggest that President Trump, who told people if they were going to Capitol Hill to peacefully and patriotically show their support for this president and for our country, not once using any sort of violence inciting language in that speech, and the 300,000 people in attendance to hear this individual speak, our president of the United States, are somehow directly responsible for what's happening two and a half miles away at roughly the same time as the speech was concluding, to me is intellectual sloth.
00:39:54.000It's painting this blanket picture of anyone in Washington, D.C. with a red hat.
00:39:58.000And beyond that, as now we're seeing with some of this big tech suppression of what was happening last week, anyone who's ever worn a red MAGA hat in this country or tweeted anything in support of our president as being directly responsible for what happened on the steps of the Capitol.
00:41:15.000And so what we do know, though, is that a lot of people have been calling for massive investigations into this and almost the increase of the surveillance state.
00:41:39.000You know, Ed Luce, you know your history much better than I do, but during the rise of Hitler, you had - yeah, by the way, we can draw the analogies.
00:41:53.000As far as we can talk about this being 1933, we can do that.
00:42:07.000Because that's much more resemblant to the state of affairs that we're living in right now in the United States of America.
00:42:13.000This narrative is so important, though, because to me, it resembles the same pattern of behavior we've seen from congressional Democrats in the media since the day this president took office.
00:42:22.000It's always been the extreme hyperbole of somehow this authoritarian president, which by the way doesn't align whatsoever with President Trump's agenda in office or the conservative movement, trying to make sure that we're all falling into line in lockstep with whatever this president wants to do.
00:42:40.000It doesn't resemble at all any of the things that this president has done in the last four years and just follows this same pattern of accusatory behavior from the left saying, oh, you colluded with Russia, proven wrong.
00:42:52.000You're having an illegal phone call with Ukraine, proven wrong.
00:43:06.000And this is not a small thing for us to push back against, because again, this is going to be used as massive justification to really increase the security state and to try to restrict speech in our country.
00:43:18.000And so this is something that I think, you know, we are kind of like not fighting back against enough this, right?
00:44:32.000But breaking right now, Antifa is marching through the streets of Manhattan with shields demanding that Trump and Pence leave the White House now.
00:44:45.000So, but we have a set of circumstances here where the president does not have access to his Twitter account and the Democrats, well, it's completely eliminated.
00:45:06.000But German Chancellor Angela Merkel blasted Twitter's decision to ban U.S. President Donald Trump.
00:45:13.000This is from Glenn Greenwald's Twitter feed.
00:45:16.000It says here that what makes Merkel's comments particularly striking, apart from her well-reported acrimony with Trump, is that Europe generally and Germany specifically have far less permissive free speech traditions than the U.S. Yet even Merkel finds this alarming.
00:45:33.000Amazingly, so does the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, which is pretty notoriously a leftist organization these days.
00:45:41.000But I'm glad to see that they're standing to their principles of free speech for everyone.
00:45:45.000They had a spokesperson say, we understand the desire to permanently suspend him now.
00:45:51.000But it should concern everyone when companies like Facebook and Twitter wield the unchecked power to remove people from platforms that have become indispensable for the speech of billions, especially when political realities make those decisions easier.
00:46:05.000I don't think I could have worded that better myself.
00:46:07.000These platforms really are indispensable.
00:46:41.000Well, one thing I think that we're clearly seeing is the initiation of a new war on terror, which I don't say lightly.
00:46:47.000I say that because the Biden administration, what will be the Biden administration in about a week, is saying explicitly that they want, first of all, a new law to further criminalize domestic terrorism, even though every act that constitutes domestic terrorism is already criminalized.
00:47:06.000What they want to do is increase their power to monitor political groups, to infiltrate them, to criminalize activities that currently are not criminalized, nor should they be, whether it be advocacy of speech or other things.
00:47:19.000They're saying they want a new law, similar to the way that the 9-11 attack and the emotions surrounding it was instantly seized upon to institute a whole series of new laws that endure to this very day.
00:47:32.000And so, Glenn Greenwald is spot on here by saying that all of the domestic terrorism laws are already on the books.
00:47:39.000What they want is they want to criminalize being a Trump supporter.
00:47:44.000They want to make it illegal to support President Trump.
00:47:48.000And, you know, this is another thing that I think we have to understand: that no one here supports domestic terrorism.
00:47:57.000But very few people that were in Washington, D.C. that were Trump supporters, supported any form of what happened on the Capitol there.
00:48:05.000And even the people that were on the Capitol.
00:48:06.000And so, to all of a sudden, act as if we need a new set of laws because of some of the activities that happen through groups that, by the way, have already been profiled as far-right white identitarian groups, as agitator and instigator groups, then that is in every single way a total disgrace.
00:48:26.000Do we have COP 26 of Representative Crow?
00:48:48.000But they, look, the left always needs a problem to justify the increase of their own power.
00:48:57.000And so by saying it's never going to go away, well, that is fear-mongering, okay?
00:49:02.000But be very specific about what do you mean is not going away?
00:49:05.000Do you mean that there will always be professional agitators and white identitarians that are going to try to hijack movements?
00:49:12.000How many times do we had to hear from the media that Joe Biden is not represented by Antifa?
00:49:17.000Antifa claims Joe Biden, but Joe Biden does not claim Antifa.
00:49:21.000And to be very consistent here, why is it that BLM Incorporated was trying to breach the walls of the White House, which we'll get some clips on in just a second, when they were trying to breach the walls of the White House over the summer, they were never called insurrectionists and they were never called terrorists.
00:49:39.000But the consequences of how we describe this, how we talk about this, will be so incredibly consequential.
00:49:46.000Do you know there's already 52 domestic terrorism laws on the books?
00:49:51.000What's another one going to do except maybe go outside of the bounds and attack Trump supporters and conservatives?
00:49:58.000I think that we can all agree that attacks against government buildings is something we don't support.
00:51:51.000She said, this gives Facebook slash tech slash Zuck the most power.
00:51:56.000If he can shut the president up, at least she mentions he's the president, up off, he can shut any of us up or off, the pregnant star tweeted on Thursday.
00:52:04.000My concern is that this gives big tech the opportunity to shut down left extremists who are important political organizers.
00:53:06.000And so the biggest kind of takeaway from what we've been talking about here is the conflation, right?
00:53:11.000Is that every single person that was in Washington, D.C. is somehow conflated with the thugs that were attacking police officers.
00:53:18.000And let me say it in very clear and simple terms.
00:53:20.000If you attack a police officer and you're a BLM incorporated person, I call you a thug.
00:53:25.000If you attack a police officer and you're wearing a hat of a political candidate that I support, you're also a thug.
00:53:31.000I don't really think that is a hard thing to be able to build out.
00:53:35.000However, if you just went to the United States Capitol and watched from afar, that is a huge difference than the people that were miles and the people that were actually in the building and the rotunda.
00:53:46.000So there's like four kind of categories here.
00:54:02.000But still, if you just walk to the rotunda and then you walked back in, foolish, probably illegal, you're going to get arrested.
00:54:09.000You're not necessarily a domestic terrorist.
00:54:11.000Now, if you went from the ellipse to the Capitol, into the Capitol, and you have zip ties, and all of a sudden you're kind of caravening down this, like that one guy who looks like he's doing some form of a Tom Clancy intervention.
00:55:18.000So they're using every opportunity to misrepresent us.
00:55:21.000Even those of us that made the conscious decision to not get near the Capitol, they're like, you're still awful because you were breathing the same air, and therefore you're both awful and you wear the same hat and I hate you and go away, right?
00:55:42.000And so they're, but some people were calling for extra support, weren't they?
00:55:47.000We're hearing just now from our team that the Capitol police chief there at the Capitol building sought the D.C. National Guard's help before the riots even started, knowing that they could be facing some sort of a problem there on Capitol Hill.
00:56:10.000Isabel did some great work with them and continues to.
00:56:14.000Dennis Prager, who's also on the Salem Radio Network, Isabel, do you remember the analogy that he used to use when he said, if I walked onto an airplane with the Wall Street Journal and you kicked me off the airplane, we would consider that to be absurd.
00:56:26.000Do you remember him talking about that?
00:56:28.000And we were like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's terrible.
00:56:29.000Like, if you walked onto an airplane with the Wall Street Journal or with, you know, a Trump book and they kicked you off, we'd be like, that would be a bridge too far.
00:56:38.000Well, women have been kicked off planes now for just talking about Donald Trump.
00:56:46.000They are going to restrict banking access.
00:56:49.000They're going to restrict phone access.
00:56:51.000And at some point, you just have to ask them, like, do you want us in your country?
00:56:55.000Like, how far are you willing to take this?
00:56:58.000And what exactly are we, what exactly are, how are we supposed to exist in this country if you can't have access to social media, can't communicate, you can't have access to transportation, and they're already restricting, they're already talking about restricting PayPal and processing access.
00:57:15.000And so a very, like, very simple question is, how are we supposed to actually live in the same country together?
00:57:25.000Because you are, and the media is doing this.
00:57:28.000The media has been so sloppy and so reckless.
00:57:30.000And they are the ones that are going to incite further problems in this country by looping everybody into this.
00:57:36.000And I mean, they're trying to go after yours truly right now because we sponsored buses of students to go to a First Amendment rally that was miles away and hours before, hours after our students were even there.
00:57:51.000However, in the rage, right, the madness of the crowds, as Douglas Murray would say, no, you're in the same zip code.
00:58:00.000And really what this goes to show is the left, and it really saddens me to say this, they find they have no reservations whatsoever to say that we don't want to live in the same country as you.
00:58:15.000Well, they're trying to create an America that's not America anymore.
00:58:18.000And to quote the great Dennis Prager once more, you can't love something that you want to change.
00:58:23.000The left loves to say, America's great, it's the greatest country in the world.
00:58:26.000It scores them a lot of political points on the campaign trail.
00:58:29.000But then, as soon as they're elected into Congress, as soon as they're elected into the White House, they want to fundamentally change everything about our society.
00:58:36.000Banning people from tech companies and from PayPal and from airplanes that just happen to disagree with you and vote a different way is not the United States of America.
00:58:45.000And I think eventually we're going to come to a point here in the next few months where we have to legitimately ask ourselves, is this America that you want to live in or is this something completely different in its entirety?
00:58:56.000And so now what we have seen, and the tech side is now just the latest frontier of this.
00:59:00.000I want to get to some sound here of this.
00:59:02.000It's kind of this new kind of silicon curtain.
00:59:05.000You know, kind of how there was the Iron Curtain.
00:59:07.000Now we have the silicon curtain that has been created where you are not allowed to actually use the platforms if you do not espouse all of their views.
00:59:19.000Why did Nicole Hannah-Jones, the founder of the 1619 project, why didn't she lose her Twitter account when she justified destruction and terrorism?
01:00:43.000Tens of thousands of people that have contacted us that went to the ellipse there peacefully and didn't even get near the Capitol steps.
01:00:49.000And the way the media has been building this narrative, which we have to push back against, and I encourage all of you to do this to all your friends, is two events and pull out a map for goodness sakes.
01:00:59.000Show how far away these things are and how few people actually went from the ellipse to the Capitol.
01:01:05.000Even the people that did, I know some people that just kind of stood there and watched and were saying, this is terrible.
01:01:12.000There's nothing against the law to walk over there and say this is terrible.
01:01:14.000But as we said in the other hour, look, as soon as you started to see things get heated up and you didn't leave, probably unwise, but not illegal, okay?
01:01:24.000There's a lot of unwise things you could do legally in this country.
01:01:28.000However, the left is now making this very dangerous argument that every single person that attended was part of this collective Borg, you know, resistance is futile and they were all feeding each other at all costs and they were all messaging each other secretly and privately saying, this is our chance to stage a coup.
01:02:38.000Diane emailed us, and I do want to get to this because I said this in the other hour, and I think I actually supported her, and I just want to make this very clear, but it's a good email.
01:02:47.000I'm writing to you because what you say on live stream today was incorrect.
01:02:50.000You weren't even at the Capitol, so I'm not sure how you could be sure of so many of your misstatements.
01:02:57.000I was 2,000 miles away here in Arizona, but I do want to make clear what was happening here.
01:03:03.000And just anyway, I just want to read her email because I think she missed what I said earlier, and that's good.
01:03:07.000She said, most of the tens of thousands who peacefully walked to the Capitol, which is about a mile away from the ellipse, two miles, went for a rally and speakers there, like Brandon Stracha, who were scheduled to speak, to show our objection to election fraud.
01:03:33.000Most of us had no idea the chaos that was going on inside.
01:03:36.000I was by the Peace Memorial, had no idea I got home until even hours later.
01:03:39.000Even people who were up close and saying they didn't know we had no internet because signals were jammed.
01:03:44.000No, that's the point I made in the earlier segment.
01:03:47.000What I am saying, though, is that as soon as kind of flash bang grenades started to get detonated, the people that ran to the trouble, I mean, come on, like that's, you know, you know better than that.
01:03:57.000But there were a lot of people that still, that was the nuance I was making, is that the activist media first didn't even cover the enormity of the ellipse, then didn't show the smaller crowd to the Capitol, but then even show why people were going to the Capitol in the first place, which was for constitutionally protected speech.
01:04:11.000We made the decision at turning point action not to send our kids to the Capitol.
01:04:15.000We got them back on their buses and got them out.
01:04:17.000But the people that did go to the Capitol that wanted to hear from Brandon Stracha, in fact, they were actually scheduled to hear from Congresswoman Lauren Boebert and other people that were scheduled to go outside and speak to them.
01:04:26.000And some people that were just kind of there and seeing and watching.
01:04:29.000And the Peace Memorial is quite a ways from the actual interior of the Capitol.
01:04:34.000The Peace Monuments on the northern side and the James Abram Garfield Memorials on the south side.
01:04:40.000And so, Diane, I appreciate your question, freedomatcharliekirk.com.
01:04:43.000What I am saying, though, is that some people that have now been arrested saw the trouble going on in the Capitol.
01:04:49.000They saw the barricades be broken and they ran towards it.
01:04:53.000And I can tell you that some people got caught up in this, that some people got caught up in this, I think, incorrectly, and I think regrettably is really what I mean.
01:05:04.000They regretted getting up, getting involved in all that.
01:05:34.000And I was like, no, he's not going to speak.
01:05:36.000And this is part of just kind of, once after January 20th, I'm just waiting and I'm just planning.
01:05:44.000Post-January 20th, I'm going to do a comprehensive lockdown of a lot of the fake information that really good people like yourselves are being sent.
01:05:51.000I'm not going to do it until after January 20th, but I could tell you that the president was never scheduled to speak over the weekend.
01:06:49.000RSBN should have it, or did they take it down, Isabel?
01:06:53.000I'm not sure if they've taken it down.
01:06:54.000Our team is saying that they might have the full version here, but good luck finding the full version, especially on mainstream media outlets.
01:07:01.000It took us 45 minutes with our team the other day as we were sitting in here broadcasting for you guys to find one specific clip of his statement saying that the demonstrations at the Capitol would be peaceful and patriotic.
01:07:12.000And so RSBN, Rightside Broadcasting Network, is always a good place to watch all of those.
01:07:16.000So I encourage you guys to check it out.
01:07:20.000You know, I have a lot on my mind, Charlie, and my hope is that people will be able to find real truth this week more than anything.
01:07:29.000I think what I was so frustrated about last week in the midst of everything happening on Capitol Hill and the days that followed was just the sheer enormity of lies that I saw on my social media feeds when I watched television, when I started reading newspapers, even newspapers that I've generally trusted over the last few years.
01:07:46.000And this idea that conservatives are all being conflated to be these violent, radical, insurrectionist, domestic terrorists is so disheartening to me because there's such an interesting cultural moment happening because of those allegations.
01:08:00.000All of a sudden, conservatives are being encouraged to be kicked off social media platforms.
01:08:04.000People are saying that we should be put on no-fly lists.
01:08:07.000That's trending on Twitter right now as we speak.
01:08:09.000And I've seen lots of familiar names on that Twitter feed right there.
01:08:13.000People are saying that no longer should conservatives have access to the Second Amendment because we are violent insurrectionist terrorists and therefore it's an imminent threat to why we have the Bill of Rights.
01:08:24.000This is exactly why we have the Bill Browns.
01:08:26.000Moments like this where everyone's like, no, no, actually, I was 2,000 miles away.
01:08:32.000Even if you were at the Capitol and you were watching from afar, you still have the right to free speech and to own a firearm, despite what David Hogg wants to say on Twitter, okay?
01:08:40.000Well, and already the First Amendment was under attack for several years, and we've been talking a lot about this with Turning Point USA for a very long time.
01:08:48.000Last year, 51% of millennials wanted to rewrite the First Amendment completely because it has no protections and clauses for quote-unquote hate speech, whatever they want to call that.
01:08:58.000But that fight is just beginning now with all of these allegations.
01:09:01.000And I won't be surprised when extreme legislation goes through the United States Congress here in the next few weeks after Inauguration Day.
01:09:09.000Obviously, we can try to try some of those things through the court system and make sure that the judicial system can get kicked in to protect our rights, but that only goes so far as well.
01:09:18.000So this is a unique time in American history that requires all of us to get involved in the process.
01:09:24.000You can't sit back and watch this on your TV screen and scroll through your Twitter feed anymore and just assume someone else is going to say something and take care of it for you.
01:09:32.000So let's walk through what's all happened in the last week, right?
01:09:35.000So one week, about a week ago, on Tuesday, we lost the Georgia runoffs.
01:10:17.000They just filed a lawsuit in federal court in Seattle because they've essentially vanished off of the social media stamp there and the internet at this point.
01:10:26.000It started with the Google App Store taking the app off of its platform, saying that they didn't monitor speech heavily enough when it came to people inciting violence.
01:10:36.000I'm reading the opposite from the founder of Parlor right now that thousands of people were hired to track violent language and hashtags for incitement to take that off in real time.
01:10:47.000So that's interesting to see that double standard there.
01:10:50.000Then Apple followed suit, took their app off the app store, and Amazon, who hosted the server, which basically means parlor.com, then said they felt uncomfortable hosting the domain for this website.
01:11:02.000And they took that off of their servers, which now means parlor.com just does it.
01:11:06.000So that's a super important point, Isabel.
01:11:32.000We do not have unlimited server space.
01:11:34.000Amazon in the early 2000s, they got ahead of the game.
01:11:39.000They saw that, and this was a 20-year project, by the way.
01:11:42.000They are just finally reaping the benefits.
01:11:44.000They really started in like 2015, but they started to realize that this internet thing's not going away.
01:11:51.000And most of the internet has not yet been built.
01:11:54.000And that in order to try and utilize quicker download speeds, you guys remember the internet in the early 2000s.
01:12:00.000You had the dial-up connection, right?
01:12:03.000All of that was done through antiquated old servers.
01:12:06.000And so Amazon started to invest tons of money.
01:12:10.000They basically became quietly, and no one really understood or appreciated a server company.
01:12:15.000And it wasn't until 2013 when these things came around, our iPhones, all of a sudden when apps like Uber and apps like Snapchat and apps like YouTube and Instagram, all of a sudden servers became way more valuable than ever before.
01:12:32.000Facebook has their own servers, but most of the internet, including Netflix, actually is hosted on Amazon web services.
01:12:39.000Do you know what else is hosted on Amazon Web Services?
01:12:44.000Twitter is hosted on Amazon Web Services.
01:12:47.000In fact, Connor, can you get that thing that ALX sent us?
01:12:49.000I think it was $15 million a month that Twitter pays Amazon Web Services.
01:12:53.000So in order for Twitter to be able to have all the different inputs and outputs and store everything that anyone's ever said and all the pictures and all the videos, they need actual physical servers to be able to do it.
01:13:03.000Server rooms are usually in the middle of deserts.
01:13:06.000Heavy security, because I mean, it could bring down the entire internet.
01:13:09.000And they're usually temperature controlled.
01:13:11.000And so, but Twitter does not have, they're not a big enough company like Facebook.
01:13:14.000Twitter is a fraction the size of Facebook.
01:13:17.000Twitter gets, I think, more attention than Facebook, but they're a fraction of the size, which kind of goes to show where all the conversation happens.
01:13:24.000But Amazon, half of almost all of the kind of what's called pioneered internet, that's not the right term, but it's something that somebody used the other day that I saw on a podcast, meaning that is not in the corporate side of it, is almost all through Amazon Web Services.
01:13:38.000And so Parlor gets on the scene and they're like, well, what's the cheapest, fastest, best server company out there?
01:14:19.000And so Amazon Web Services, though, is like, just to give you an idea of what they host, Facebook still uses Amazon Web Services for some of their hosting.
01:14:28.000Facebook is starting to build their own servers.
01:14:30.000Just to give you an idea of how powerful Amazon Web Services is.
01:14:33.000Netflix spends $19 million a month with Amazon Web Services.
01:14:39.000Twitch, $15 million, which is a streaming service mostly for gamers.
01:15:07.000And that's paying Amazon per month to use their gold standard of servers.
01:15:12.000So this is an interesting situation now that they've kicked Parler off over ideological differences to no longer be able to use the servers.
01:15:20.000Parlor has now responded, suing Amazon in federal court in Seattle, saying that this is a breaking of the First Amendment, a violation of free speech.
01:15:30.000But interestingly, you've heard a lot on this broadcast, and I'm sure on your social media feeds in the last few months, about Section 230 in federal law, in our United States code.
01:15:41.000Essentially, that shields social media companies and public platforms from civil liability in court.
01:15:47.000So they can restrict content, they can remove users that they deem to be harassment or violent or objectionable, whether or not it's constitutionally protected whatsoever.
01:15:57.000The question here that I think the court is going to have to answer is: does Amazon fall under this shield of civil liability?
01:16:03.000And essentially, all of the companies that do so are called information service providers.
01:16:08.000That to me sounds like what Amazon is doing through hosting these server domains for individuals.
01:16:13.000So my anticipation is that they probably will be shielded from liability in court over this decision.
01:16:19.000And so the, but what you have here, though, is kind of an extermination order that was given from on high where Google, Amazon, and Google, Amazon, and Apple, I'm sorry, Apple, all kind of got together and said, this parlor thing, let's do a favor for our boy Twitter here and knock him out.
01:16:49.000This is the exact reason antitrust laws were put into place to begin with.
01:16:53.000And speaking to this need for a continued enforcement of our Bill of Rights, the First Amendment honestly is kind of obsolete when you shield the public platforms where people are engaging in free speech.
01:17:04.000Free speech looks much different today than it did in the 1700s, but just because it's on a screen doesn't mean it's any less important.
01:17:10.000And that is the point that we need to be making when it comes to continued policy and shielding liability from these companies with Section 230.
01:17:24.000And we're going to show you guys this from Fox News here in a second because big tech can just wipe out any competitor that they see to all of their buddies there in the Silicon Valley just because they're protected from civil liability.
01:17:38.000This is a perfect example of it, given the fact that these companies have become so dominant that they are able to just wipe out another company, put them out of business.
01:17:47.000We've been talking for a long time about the elimination of Section 230 in the Telecommunications Act.
01:17:53.000That gives these companies the liability protection.