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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:14.000We got to get right into this because a breaking news story over the evening was about a place I'd never heard of called South Pars Gas Field in Iran.
00:01:24.000And here to help make some sense of it, right at the top is going to be Eric Bowling, who is an expert when it comes to these types of things.
00:01:35.000So let me just read part of Trump's truth, and we're going to get your analysis on this.
00:01:40.000So he says, Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars Gas Field in Iran.
00:01:50.000A relatively small section of the hole has been hit.
00:01:52.000The United States knew nothing about this particular attack.
00:01:56.000And the country of Qatar, Qatar, was in no way, shape, or form involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen.
00:03:44.000If this continues, we could actually go to $5 a gallon.
00:03:46.000Trump, he's a good businessman, but he's also a good economist in his mind.
00:03:52.000I think he probably saw the effect of hitting those oil infrastructures in Iran was a bad idea.
00:03:57.000And I tell you what happened just hours ago.
00:03:59.000Iran turned around and either targeted, certainly hit the Israeli refinery, with the biggest refinery in Israel as a retaliatory measure.
00:04:09.000Now they're saying it may be shrapnel, but who knows if they may have missed and shrapnel hit the refinery.
00:04:15.000But there's a refinery shut in right now.
00:04:16.000So once you start playing around infrastructure, all butts are off on how oil prices could go.
00:04:23.000Yeah, well, so let's get Pete Hegg said.
00:04:25.000He was asked about it this morning, SAT 17.
00:04:27.000So with the strike yesterday on South Bar's gas field, you know, if the U.S. didn't know about it or didn't approve of it, it kind of seems like a trend of Israel apparently pursuing their own objectives over U.S. objectives.
00:04:41.000Why are we helping Israel prosecute this war if they're going to pursue their own objectives?
00:04:56.000I mean, President Trump was very clear about that.
00:04:58.000Iran has weaponized energy for decades.
00:05:02.000Israel clearly sent a warning, and POTUS has made it clear, very clear.
00:05:06.000Iran knows when you hit Karg Island and you hit military capabilities on Carg Island, which is the only thing we hit, we can hold anything at issue.
00:05:41.000It looks like we're having the emergence of essentially three different, three distinct oil markets, Asia through Omana, Dubai, Europe, Brent, and U.S., West Texas, right?
00:06:40.000And Andrew, I've done this a long time.
00:06:42.000For the past 15 years, the difference between Brent oil, it's always higher because of location and transportation because it's produced way up north in the North Sea in order to bring it down.
00:07:26.000They use liters, but over there are equivalent.
00:07:28.000They're probably going to hit $10 a gallon of gasoline before, probably within the next couple of weeks.
00:07:36.000So, Eric, I think a lot of people have noted, okay, the prices are surging more in other places compared to the U.S.
00:07:42.000And I've seen some people present this as that means it's no big deal for us, but maybe give us a sense.
00:07:48.000Like, my feeling is that if we have a giant energy spike everywhere outside the U.S., even if we're self-sufficient in our own energy, that's going to have pretty severe ramifications for our own country and our own economy, correct?
00:08:28.000It's going to hit $100 a barrel before the end of this week.
00:08:31.000So we are very, very sensitive, even though we're not as sensitive to the bread price.
00:08:38.000We're still, it brings all, here's why, only very quickly, I know you got to go, but because if you, at some point, if you're running rent oil and it's too expensive, you can retool your refinery to use WTI if it makes sense to transport it at a cheaper rate.
00:08:54.000So we've got, you know, a news that was breaking this morning that it looks like Japan, who, by the way, the Prime Minister of Japan is meeting with President Trump the White House currently.
00:09:04.000Japan, the Netherlands, Germany, France, Italy, Great Britain, they're all going to start working with us.
00:09:11.000It looks like a bit of a about face to help clear the Strait of Hormuz.
00:09:15.000Is that going to fix the problem or are we still looking at inflationary upward pressure from this oil spike?
00:09:43.000They can shoot missiles from anywhere.
00:09:44.000They've also said that they can mine the Gulf.
00:09:47.000Trump says there's no mines in the Gulf, but I've seen confirmed video of Iranian submersible drones that are mines and that they can remotely control from land.
00:09:58.000And there's hundreds of them that they haven't put in the water yet, which they could still do.
00:10:02.000Iran's in an existential threat right now.
00:10:05.000They're literally looking at possibly the end of Iran as anyone's known it.
00:10:09.000And they probably feel that way on the inside right now.
00:11:01.000Because no one I know, nor would I ever send a crew through the Strait of Hormuz just because there's insurance in case they get blown to smithereens.
00:12:22.000The Trump administration is still signaling that this regime is about to collapse, Eric.
00:12:26.000So they may be on their heels, Andrew.
00:12:30.000I find it hard to believe that they're about to collapse.
00:12:33.000I mean, they still have a lot of fight left in them, even if it's a fight to the death, which they will do at this point, because this is their existential threat.
00:12:44.000They're not going to just decide we're going to roll over.
00:12:47.000I believe you cut a deal with them, an international legal deal with them, where they can't ever back out of it.
00:12:52.000And we are energy independent forever.
00:12:54.000I mean, are we really in the business of making sure countries aren't nuclear weaponized?
00:12:59.000I mean, North Korea has become under Clinton.
00:13:15.000Eric, just the natural question that follows up then is maybe how much time?
00:13:20.000Like you've mentioned, obviously there's a lot of economic pressure coming from this.
00:13:24.000What sort of timeline are we looking at for economic issues escalating where we need to start taking, you know, how long do we have before we really need to get this wrapped up?
00:15:40.000And don't forget, anything you produce in one part of the country to the other, you bring it to the other part, you got to transport it and you do it with rail or truck.
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00:17:58.000Yeah, that is an accurate description of what we know.
00:18:00.000Several months ago, the FBI began examining a potential leak of information and technology that they believe is connected to Joe Kent or his office.
00:18:14.000It's in that period of time when it's nearing a resolution.
00:18:18.000Often when you get to this point, you get a notification that you're either a subject or a target of the investigation.
00:18:23.000Target means you're about to be indicted.
00:18:25.000Subject means your behavior is being examined.
00:18:28.000It's usually around the time of resolution that you get those notifications.
00:18:31.000We don't know if that happened, but we are told that the decision on whether charges are to be brought is going to happen soon.
00:18:39.000This does go back into last year, late in 2025, is when the investigation allegedly began.
00:18:45.000And then all of a sudden on Monday, he dropped that bombshell of a letter.
00:18:50.000And, you know, again, when you look at the whole of Joe Kent, no matter what happens in this outcome, he's a man who was deployed 11 times to a combat zone in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:19:09.000But if you go into the civilian side and you're trusted with intelligence and you don't handle it properly, there are going to be consequences, particularly in this administration, which is very serious about prosecuting links.
00:19:20.000And so we'll have to wait and see what the evidence is.
00:19:22.000But there was an investigation ongoing before he ever released his letter expressing his dissent for the Iran operation.
00:19:36.000Do you agree or disagree with what this letter was put out by former Director Kent?
00:19:42.000He said a lot of things in that letter.
00:19:45.000Ultimately, we have provided the president with the intelligence assessments, and the president is elected by the American people and makes his own decisions based on the information that's available to him.
00:19:57.000But do you agree with, does that statement he made, blaming Israel, concern you?
00:20:25.000There's some ambiguity about what yes meant, but I think we generally have a sense of where Tulsi Gabbard stands based on the last 48 hours of testimony.
00:20:34.000She has not endorsed the president's decision.
00:20:39.000And yesterday, when given the opportunity to, I think, coherently and cohesively describe the intelligence of what led the president, I don't think she did a very good job.
00:20:49.000I think Pete Hegseth and General Kaine this morning in their briefing did a much better job describing the threat and what would lead a president to believe that there was an imminent threat from Iran.
00:20:59.000And these are the things that we wrote about this morning, all of it in open source intelligence, but they're pretty serious things.
00:21:06.000In January, the United States government discovered three Revolutionary Guard members on Arsa.
00:21:12.000And I will tell you that Revolutionary Guard members from Iran don't come here for winter vacation.
00:21:18.000They were forcibly deported very quickly.
00:21:20.000Then we learned that Iran had secured a half billion dollars of Stinger missiles from Russia.
00:21:27.000These are shoulder-fired missiles capable of taking down a civilian or military aircraft, a capability that Iran traditionally has not had.
00:21:35.000Then we learned that they were trying to get, and we're at the final stages of negotiation, and acquiring a hypersonic missile from China that would be able to reach much further American assets outside the immediate Middle East theater, the immediate Persian Gulf.
00:21:51.000And by the way, hypersonics, we don't have a great defense system against this.
00:21:55.000Those components, along with the fact that Iran admits itself it tried to reconstitute its nuclear program as soon as the Midnight Hammer was launched last summer, were the components that drove the president to decide that American assets were in increasing risk and to do that.
00:22:12.000It isn't some magical spell that B.B. Netanyahu has over the president.
00:22:15.000Anyone who knows the president knows he makes his mind up on his own, often to the shock of some people, not ready for what he's about to do.
00:22:23.000Well, John, I mean, you know, to be fair to Tulsi, you could look at the same intel here and come up with different conclusions.
00:22:32.000I don't think it's any shocker that maybe Tulsi is less interventionist than some within the Adam.
00:22:40.000So her job wasn't to, what I would say is when you serve a president, your job isn't to express your own political opinion or try to give yourself.
00:22:49.000Your job is to tell the committee what data points did the president have to make decisions.
00:22:54.000Listen, I think it's perfectly great in America to disagree with a decision your president makes.
00:23:46.000There is, so one of the storylines is this China interfering in our elections.
00:23:52.000Tell us what you've uncovered in your reporting, John.
00:23:54.000First, we need to remind people, because they probably didn't get a lot of coverage here, but two years ago, Great Britain was thrust into national crisis when it was learned that China had hacked into parts of their election voter registration database, just people how they register their data, because it does have your driver's license, your social security number, or other personal identifying.
00:24:19.000New election security provisions were done.
00:24:23.000And by the way, the Biden administration expressed enormous alarm that this happened to Great Britain, and they even indicted some of the hackers from China that did this to China, or did this to Great Britain.
00:24:33.000Here's the dirty secret that the Biden administration and the U.S. intelligence committee knew when they were expressing outrage at what happened in Great Britain.
00:24:40.000It happened here all the way back to 2020.
00:24:43.000But it was kept a secret from the American public, from the Congress, and it appears from the statements of an intelligence community ombudsman, a civilian that's supposed to protect our interests in the intelligence community, because the ombudsman said that the intelligence community, the CIA and others, decided to keep this information from the president, the public, and the Congress because they didn't like President Trump and his policies.
00:25:06.000They actually used pejorative terms to describe the commander-in-chief in their own private emails.
00:25:13.000And they made a decision to put their personal politics ahead of their country and their commander-in-chief's need to know, and they just didn't let the country know.
00:25:20.000So America and Great Britain suffered the same crisis.
00:25:25.000Great Britain reacted with great alarm.
00:25:27.000I think that's a very, we have to get to the bottom of this politicization of these intelligence agencies.
00:25:33.000We talk about it in the context of Russia collusion and the fake scandal there, but when you start depriving a president or the intelligence committees of actionable intelligence, you're moving to a point of harming national interest.
00:25:46.000And that is what the ombudsman in the Biden era decided to allege in a document that we made public this week.
00:25:54.000So it then kind of goes to Fulton County, right?
00:25:57.000So again, DNI Tulsi Gabbard's testifying before the Senate and then today the House.
00:26:03.000And she obviously was photographed at that Fulton County rating.
00:26:07.000What do we know about her presence there specifically?
00:26:12.000I don't think the criminal case here ties to this China stuff.
00:26:16.000I think the criminal case here ties to the fact that if you're an election administrator in Georgia or Maricopa County in Arizona, where we also have some investigation going on, and you don't follow your state laws, you don't create equal protection for your voters, it becomes a federal crime.
00:26:30.000And so the FBI's interest in Georgia and in Arizona was simply to signal that they may prosecute local election administrators because they didn't follow the law.
00:26:42.000They created exemptions or didn't do things the way the law in their state required, and that becomes a federal offense if it's intentional.
00:26:58.000What we do know is that Tulsi Gabbard has known about this Chinese election intelligence for about eight months and only recently began moving in a direction of declassifying it under pressure from Justin News.
00:27:09.000We've been asking daily for about seven weeks now for Tulsi Gabbert to make this available.
00:27:14.000The first documents we got were not declassified by Tulsi Gabbard.
00:27:18.000They were declassified by Avril Haynes, her predecessor in the Biden administration.
00:27:22.000The Biden administration and former Biden administration officials were much more willing to talk about how shocked they were that Trump knew or Trump people knew about this Chinese infiltration and didn't act on it back then.
00:27:34.000They were glad to throw some shade on that.
00:27:36.000But this is a serious matter because the second you know that China got voter registration data, what we learned a few months ago from our reporting about what the FBI learned becomes more important.
00:27:48.000Voter data is accessed by Chinese intelligence.
00:27:50.000Then China sends driver's licenses to Chicago O'Hare report.
00:27:55.000And the FBI's Chinese intelligence sources tell them it was an effort to send those licenses here so someone could file fake ballot requests and vote and stuff the ballot box for Joe Biden.
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00:30:33.000It's those three pesky states that Democrats have held for election cycle after election cycle until 2016 and 2024 when we took it back.
00:30:41.000But we can take those states off the electoral map in a sense if we win Arizona, which we are massively active in.
00:30:50.000If we win New Hampshire, which we're massively active in, which a lot of people don't realize has more registered Republicans than Democrats.
00:30:57.000You got to win the Indies in that state.
00:31:25.000So we're hiring now hundreds of staffers in these three states, hundreds and hundreds in each state.
00:31:32.000And we're combining those with a bunch of thousands of volunteers.
00:31:37.000So in 2024, we had thousands of volunteers that would come in, link hands with the paid staff, the ballot chasers on the ground, and we created a machine.
00:32:08.000For those who don't understand the significance of the blue wall and maybe they're not aware of the population shifts to the Sunbelt, explain why this is important.
00:32:18.000Yeah, I mean, so basically, a lot of blue states have been run badly for a long time.
00:32:25.000And so that's the first thing you want to start with is we've got these people have been fleeing from, and also just deindustrialization.
00:32:33.000So deindustrialization, a lot of other factors, they've driven people out of Illinois.
00:32:37.000They've driven people out of New York, but they've also driven people out of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.
00:32:44.000All of these states have either lost people or they've slowed to a relative crawl.
00:32:48.000They're not where immigrants move as much.
00:32:50.000They're not where Americans move to seek opportunity.
00:33:12.000It's now only in the 20s, I believe, for how many electoral votes it has.
00:33:17.000And so the Democrats used to be able to rely on, oh, if we can just win Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, it's very, very hard for us to lose an election.
00:33:26.000But we're getting to the point where even if they win all those states, and as we've seen with President Trump, they don't always win them, even if they win all of those states, they're still not going to be able to win unless they can snag these Sunbelt states.
00:33:39.000Now, as we all know, kind of Californication is a problem that those states used to be rock, solid, red.
00:33:46.000They are a lot of them now more purple.
00:33:48.000Nevada used to vote very consistently Republican.
00:33:51.000Arizona voted Republican for basically a half century straight.
00:33:59.000And our job is step in there, stop any of that sliding, make them rock, solid, red, make them kind of like Florida, where Florida was trending blue, and we flipped it back the other way.
00:34:10.000Just Jack Pesobic sending us a note right now.
00:34:18.000And people don't realize New Hampshire is kind of like this beacon, this red dot in the New England area, where they tend to have a lot of conservatives at the state level.
00:34:27.000For whatever reason, they're sending Democrats at the federal level.
00:35:28.000And that's why putting a field office in a place like Nevada is such a big, big milestone.
00:35:33.000So while all this noise and all this distraction is going on and you got feuding people and podcast wars, whatever, we are doing the quiet work building to make sure that those low-prop, conservative, right-leaning voters get out to the polls.
00:35:50.000It's a fusion of relational organizing, data-driven live data updates.
00:35:55.000Every day when we touch pace with somebody, we put a note, we learn more about them, and then we build a relationship and we follow up with them.
00:36:43.000There's a lot of people offering takes about politics.
00:36:46.000There's a lot of people trying to provide ideological vision.
00:36:48.000Charlie did all of that, but he also always stepped up for the hard work, kind of the thankless work, the tough work of get offices open, build relationships with ordinary people, actually get votes out.
00:39:15.000I mean, there's times I feel like we're all share something that it's a basic fact to me.
00:39:19.000And a lot of folks there have never even heard of it.
00:39:21.000And I think, you know, the five on Fox does really well.
00:39:24.000And people want to see these completely separate echo chambers interact because we live in a country now where you can go about your daily life and be in a complete bubble on social media with the people you interact with in your city and just never be confronted with anything that might challenge your beliefs or your ideas about something.
00:39:53.000Blake had some hot takes on it as well.
00:39:55.000And that was, of course, when Abby Phillip repeatedly and mistakenly said that the IED bombing or attempted bombing was targeting the mayor's house.
00:41:19.000You were on the set, though, when that happened.
00:41:22.000What, I mean, it's not like it wasn't corrected in real time.
00:41:25.000I think the other sort of right of center panelists corrected her and she still missed it.
00:41:31.000What were you thinking as this moment was playing out on TV?
00:41:35.000Well, look, again, I think everyone's just in their silo where maybe they don't even know that what they're saying is incorrect.
00:41:43.000And I think it was great that she went out there and did correct it.
00:41:47.000But I think this is just a bigger problem where there isn't really any reality check of what's going on.
00:41:53.000And I think it's interesting seeing the way that the mainstream media has and has not covered what in my mind is frankly one of the most important and most significant stories is the fact that there were four terrorist attacks.
00:42:07.000I believe all of them by naturalized citizens.
00:42:09.000So people who were not born here or in the case of the terrorist attack here in New York, both of those men, their parents were born in Afghanistan.
00:42:47.000I know every time we talk, I bring him up, Andrew, but this is just the quintessential way of sort of spinning something and making an accusation that somebody is Islamophobic.
00:42:57.000So he talked about when he was confronted by the fact that he is very close with Hassan Piker, who believes that America deserved 9-11.
00:43:05.000He said, didn't address it, basically just said, oh, well, my aunt, who may or may not be a real person, she got mean looks on the subway after 9-11.
00:43:13.000And it's completely failing to address a very important and real and legitimate issue and then just attacking somebody and saying that they're bigoted because they're noticing this pattern.
00:43:26.000And that's kind of the approach that we saw, obviously, with Momdani.
00:43:28.000And it's the approach that we're seeing the media takes as well.
00:43:31.000They're not addressing this issue of, wow, there's a terrorist problem.
00:43:54.000There used to be more balance to a lot of institutions in American life.
00:43:58.000Like the press always leaned liberal, but leaning liberal in even the 60s, where we think of it as a left-wing time, leaning liberal meant, oh, maybe 70% of them voted for Kennedy and 30% voted for Nixon.
00:44:11.000But in a lot of these newsrooms at major outlets, we're talking 95-5, 99 to 1.
00:44:20.000And it breaks down your ability to think reasonably about things.
00:44:48.000And I've heard stories, there were New York Times reporters terrified to even take that assignment because if they had to report that fact, it could destroy their career in the newsroom because people there were that unhinged.
00:45:00.000And if you repeat that over and over and over again, and then if you're in a kind of lower IQ area like CNN, they're not quite firing on as many cylinders as the New York Times, you just get these absolutely embarrassing stories where they actually have to come out and admit it because it all seems reasonable to them until they get called out on X or on some other public platform.
00:45:21.000Yeah, and Lydia, that was my read on that instance, by the way.
00:45:24.000It was because all the early reporting was that, you know, it was a bombing outside or attempted bombing outside of the mayor's mansion.
00:45:31.000So I actually think Abby Phillip just didn't know that she was wrong.
00:45:35.000Well, and Andrew, I just kind of want to go back to something that Blake was saying about the sort of selection bias.
00:45:40.000And I think when you think about historically how we get these people in media kind of telling us what the story is and breaking things down for us, they are in, they go through the university system, which my colleague Isabel Vincent here at the Post had a great story yesterday just highlighting people who are literally children of IRCG members are teaching in universities like University of Illinois and Emory.
00:46:03.000And so you think about you're going through this university system where literal terrorists' children are professors and teaching.
00:46:12.000And then you go into this other ecosystem, typically in a big city like New York or LA where it's quite liberal.
00:46:19.000And then all of your colleagues are also thinking the same way as you.
00:46:22.000So it's just literally from the time you leave your house, no matter who you are, if you're going to an elite university and then continuing on to get a top job, especially in media in a liberal place like New York or LA, you're just not challenged with any of your viewpoints.
00:46:39.000You're inculcated in something that's extremely left-wing.
00:46:42.000And then that just carries on with no one challenging those presuppositions.
00:46:46.000I couldn't help but find this clip and you're sitting right next to the person involved in this.
00:47:17.000You can be against this uh war in the first place, just to be clear.
00:47:22.000Uh, but that's quite a thing to say from leading who is?
00:47:26.000That's the issue is again totally valid to challenge what the strategy is and ask questions.
00:47:33.000But we're seeing on the left, it's like people are rooting for us to fail.
00:47:38.000It's like people want this to be a disaster.
00:47:41.000So Donald Trump has egg on his face that's what it feels like is going on and I genuinely think and I know we're going to talk about Mamdani and his wife Rama that there seem to be people and obviously the fact that there are protests and people honoring, holding services to honor the ayatollah.
00:47:57.000There are clearly people here who actually do think that America is the bad guy in this war and, of course, in no universe could that be possible.
00:48:04.000You're looking at a regime that murders people for sport.
00:48:07.000They just today executed a young man who walked the streets trying to trying to protest back in january.
00:48:18.000They're the largest exporter of terror.
00:48:20.000Like, let's be very clear, in no universe are we the bad.
00:48:24.000They are the bad guys through and through.
00:48:25.000And again, you can debate the war, but there's there's no way that you could characterize Iran as anything less than the most evil regime on the face of the earth.
00:48:35.000Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of this is, we've let a ton of people, millions of people in our country that hate us and it's the third worlding of the United States and we're we're living the consequences right now, but probably nowhere as I guess.
00:48:50.000Uh poignant, can you feel that as New York City your uh, your home, where you live?
00:48:56.000And there's a bunch of reporting now out from the NEW YORK POST of Rama Duwaji I think I got her name right.
00:49:02.000Finally, that is the wife of mayor Momdani.
00:49:05.000Uh, and you could go up and throw this image up.
00:49:07.000It says, in a series of unearthed social media posts, Rama Duwaji reportedly celebrated Palestinian plane hijacker Lila Khalid Khalid.
00:49:54.000I mean, there's been a few pretty alarming headlines coming out against about Rama.
00:49:59.000The most recent one, just in the last 12 hours or so, is that, of course, she had liked all of these posts and reposted them on Tumblr, which not a lot of people are on Tumblr anymore um, but one, for instance, says American soldiers fighting in imperialist wars are not brave, nor are they fighting for anyone's freedom.
00:50:16.000They're mercilessly slaughtering third world civilians and fighting to maintain American hegemony.
00:50:22.000Um, that's just kind of a flavor of the things, and she's also used the n-word.
00:50:27.000A lot of fun things out there um, and it comes on the heels of another report that she was illustrating a children's book or not a children's book sorry, illustrating a book um, written by a woman who said things like, Jews are cockroaches, they're rabid demons uh, they're sons of Satan.
00:50:45.000So this is, this is a ongoing issue and, we see, obviously goes back to when she was a young woman in her teens, but it's continuing.
00:50:54.000This isn't like one little thing that she said 10 years ago.
00:50:57.000This is a long-seated issue that's extended for decades.
00:51:02.000And so, of course, she was lauded and celebrated when Mamdani was first elected.
00:51:07.000She had this fabulous photo shoot in New York magazine, and she was heralded as this artist in Gracie Mansion, and she was just so wonderful.
00:51:16.000And it's interesting to see there hadn't been a lot of sort of opo research or reporting on her specifically.
00:51:22.000But now that we're seeing all these things, I'm waiting for New York Magazine and some of these other publications that just lionized and celebrated her to come out and say, oh, we apologize for featuring and lauding a woman who likes and reposts things that are extremely, not even just offensive, but things that are advocating for terrorism.
00:51:46.000Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure if you're not.
00:51:47.000And we're paying for her to be in Gracie Mansion.
00:51:50.000Yeah, and I just want to flag, like, when they say, like, liked posts, you know, liked this person who was in the PSLF, that they're basically the ones who pioneered aircraft hijackings.
00:52:00.000Like, a big reason I think Al-Qaeda might have thought, let's hijack planes and fly them into buildings, is because this Palestinian group kind of popularized aircraft hijackings as this dramatic political terrorist stunt in the 60s and 70s.
00:52:14.000They were doing one every few weeks, basically, for a long time.
00:52:33.000And to have somebody, again, who Mamdani cosplays is somebody who cares about everyone in the community, to have someone in Gracie Mansion who's celebrating the murder and the rape of Jews is just, it's beyond.
00:52:47.000And I would note, you know, you said New York has obviously changed a lot.
00:52:50.000And in the wake of his election, everyone kept saying, like, oh, how could a city that was, you know, sustained a terrorist attack just two decades earlier vote for this?
00:52:59.000And it's interesting among the people who actually have lived here for more than five years, more than 10 years, Mamdani did not win.
00:53:07.000It was really new people who've been coming here who elected him.
00:53:12.000Are those newcomers from the U.S. or are we talking immigrants?
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00:56:37.000I believe they conducted the poll that said 100% of MAGA supports the president.
00:56:42.000I just don't believe that that's statistically possible or true.
00:56:47.000I don't know where they got that from or how they posed the question.
00:56:51.000But there's no doubt that this Iranian conflict, war, excursion, whatever you want to call it, is, you know, it's a challenge to the movement.
00:57:14.000Yeah, it's a great, it's a great question to ask because this is the question for the year because we all want MAGA to endure.
00:57:21.000We all want to make sure that Americans are safe and prosperous and thriving.
00:57:25.000And then the question is, is this war that's going on right now, is this getting us closer to that?
00:57:31.000And I think there's going to be a lot of people who think that the president has earned a lot of credibility and i'm in that group where he gets a little leeway here if he feels like he had the imperative and the intelligence to wage a successful uh war, that he should have a little time to do it.
00:57:45.000If he's doing his strategic bombings, he's trying to take out high profile targets and if you look at sort of a reasonable standard is, are we devastating Iran's ballistic missile capabilities?
00:57:55.000Are we developing, are we devastating their ability to create nuclear weaponry?
00:57:59.000Uh, are we perhaps making so that it's less likely they support terror proxies that kill ourselves and our allies in the region, then it's been pretty successful so far.
00:58:08.000But if you look at it the way Joe Camp framed it up on Tucker Show yesterday, which is that Iran was never really going to develop a nuclear weapon and that they were only enriching as a bargaining tactic and we should have stuck around longer to bargain with Iran and you take that side, then uh, obviously you're going to be very discouraged about what's happening right now and you see uh, 119 barrels of oil and no real incentive for Iran to open up the Straight Of Hormuz, and you could see this thing spiraling really quick.
00:58:36.000So I, I feel like, whichever side you're on right now, I do recommend operating with a cautious lens, because if you're someone who's already thrown president Trump under the bus, then it's probably because you are.
00:58:50.000You're taking cues from a really extreme but often credible and very persuasive faction of the online right, and if you are think that Trump is infallible here, then unfortunately, Middle East Wars are a place where a lot of presidents falter.
00:59:05.000So I see a lot of wisdom on both sides, and that makes it a very tough one, because it's very hard to come in andrew and declaratively say this is going one way or the other.
00:59:16.000I did not watch the whole thing um, but there's two clips floating around from Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson.
00:59:24.000Yeah, one is basically kind of outlining the divergence.
00:59:28.000Let's say that and Pete Hegseth alluded to this that Israel and the United States have uh, oftentimes overlapping ambitions with the Iranian strikes.
00:59:42.000Um, what do we make of this divergence?
00:59:45.000I I, I personally, you know understand that Israel has its own objectives.
00:59:51.000Sure that does not surprise me however, to suggest that president Trump is lacking any agency to make his own decisions, especially on something where he's been so consistent uh, when it comes to Iran, for at least a decade, about nuclear uh capabilities.
01:00:06.000Uh I, I find it is a bridge that's a little far for me uh, to to wrap my head around.
01:00:13.000There's a couple of things that Kent threw out there that I think are very serious, and I think it'd be wise for the White House to address them over time.
01:00:20.000Uh, the first one is a suggestion that Trump had sort of moved the goalpost and Iran is not on the brink of getting a nuclear weapon, and that their enrichment was only designed as a negotiating tactic.
01:00:33.000Uh, this is something I have heard, but is directly contradicted by the administration's line via CIA director John Ratliff, who said flat out that Iran was enriching to create a nuke to destroy America and our allies, and uh, Of course, I'm lightly inclined to side with the administration because they've built up a lot of credibility with me.
01:00:54.000It's worth taking that on on a serious level.
01:00:56.000I think that's real to understand that that is a, I think that's a legitimate concern that people have got.
01:01:01.000Where I start losing him is the suggestion that Trump is only doing the bidding of Israel because throughout the course of the two hours, and I watched the whole thing, both men really praised President Trump a lot.
01:01:13.000But the whole implication of the whole text here is that Trump is also getting played and rolled by Israel and doing Israel's bidding, whether or not because he feels like he's under threat, whether or not he's doing this because he's easily manipulated.
01:01:27.000That's sort of incoherent to me, that Trump is the greatest leader imaginable and the perfect guy for the moment, but also is getting succored by Israel, a country of 9 million people.
01:01:37.000That strikes me as a little incongruous.
01:01:39.000And I think that's one that does make me question some of what's going on and make me feel like there's more than meets the eye to some of this conversation.
01:01:46.000But it's clear that Israel definitely wants regime change.
01:01:50.000I think that some of our allies in the region, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who are sort of newer to the America First Hent, largely since the Abraham Accords, which have largely been a triumph, I think they would like to see more widespread devastation to Iran than perhaps is in our immediate interest in America.
01:02:06.000So I don't think it's just Israel in the region, but I think it would be nice to get some clarity on some of those legitimate issues Kent and Tucker raise in the conversation.
01:02:16.000Yeah, so then it goes into obviously this point that, and I played this in hour one, I think it's worth playing again because, you know, Joe Kent is now officially, we're told, under investigation by the FBI for leaking classified documents.
01:02:31.000And I want to be very clear: Joe Kent deployed 11 times for the U.S. military.
01:02:56.000Do you agree or disagree with what this letter was put out by former Director Kent?
01:03:03.000He said a lot of things in that letter.
01:03:05.000Ultimately, we have provided the president with the intelligence assessments, and the president is elected by the American people and makes his own decisions based on the information that's available to him.
01:03:17.000But do you agree with, does that statement he made, blaming Israel, concern you?
01:03:26.000Having she said yes, it was a little ambiguous of what she was actually saying she was troubled by.
01:03:33.000What did you think was communicated in that moment, Alex?
01:03:36.000Yeah, I think that's really, I think he goes way too far in this regard, especially noting that there are other allies we have in the region who would like to see regime change in Iran as well.
01:03:45.000And just the thought that Trump is just some sort of a patsy for Israel, it just doesn't make sense for anything else in Trump's character.
01:03:53.000And they cite one piece of evidence, which is the clip from Marco Rubio saying they got intel that Israel was going to go in and it was sort of a do or die moment, I guess, for us to go in or not.
01:04:03.000I had a feeling that's just one data point out of millions that were probably part of the president's calculation.
01:04:07.000The president loves being a peacetime president.
01:04:45.000And he was out there in the biggest podcast in the world speaking on behalf of Charlie and speaking on behalf of in the context of implying perhaps Israel murdered Charlie and then using that in the exact context to suggest that Israel is compelling America to bomb girls' schools on a Rhinian base.
01:05:02.000I mean, it's starting to get a little bit.
01:05:04.000I'm seeing the orange yarn one, always Saudi and Philadelphia meme starts popping into my head here.
01:05:12.000Now we're just connecting all sorts of different dots without any hard evidence.
01:05:15.000Yeah, and I want to get into that a little bit more in the next segment, Alex, because, you know, obviously I logged that, I clocked that.
01:05:23.000We instantly shared that clip and discussed it.
01:05:26.000And I think it deserves a whole segment.
01:05:29.000Let's just wrap this segment up really quickly with, you know, Megan Kelly tweeted out something like, if you really want to destroy MAGA, you know, have the CIA surveil Tucker and the FBI indict or the DOJ indict Joe Kent.
01:05:49.000Do you read it that way, or do you think we're more stable than that?
01:05:54.000Yeah, I think we're more stable than that, but I do take that into deep consideration.
01:05:59.000I'm a person who's a very online, conservative person.
01:06:02.000I'm aware of where the pulse of a lot of the highest energy people online are, and they really like Joe Kent and they're very skeptical of us doing Israel's bidding at all.
01:06:12.000But the FBI investigation started earlier, and we know there are these strange leaks that are certainly designed to put some sort of a wedge between America and Israel.
01:06:22.000And some people in this audience probably think that's deserved, but it's certainly a thing that's happening.
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01:08:08.000And the last time I saw Charlie Kirk on this earth was in June in the West Wing.
01:08:15.000And he said, Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran.
01:08:19.000So when one of President Trump's closest advisors who is vocally advocating for us to not go to war with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis, and then he's suddenly publicly assassinated, and we're not allowed to ask any questions about that.
01:08:38.000So he says, we're not allowed to ask any questions about that.
01:08:41.000I can personally attest that I don't believe that that is the truth.
01:08:46.000I believe there's been a billion questions asked, both publicly and privately, behind the scenes.
01:09:18.000So this is disappointing to me that he's going out there at this level because I think I respect so much of what he's done, both in political life and, of course, his service is just fantastic.
01:09:30.000And the fact that he's speculating at this level, I think that is connecting Charlie, who appears to have been murdered by a trans furry freak, to what's going on in terms of Trump's Iran policy right now.
01:09:44.000And the thought that Joe is saying this right after he left the government, we know while he's under investigation by the FBI, the timing of it, so he leaves the government.
01:09:53.000And because he couldn't ask questions when he was in a position of immense power, now he's going in the private sector and getting a lot of attention.
01:10:00.000It just reeks to me that there's something off.
01:10:02.000There's a variable we're not seeing here, but it doesn't make any sense that I couldn't ask questions.
01:10:16.000He's saying, oh, we're not allowed to ask questions.
01:10:18.000No, I believe we were allowed to ask questions.
01:10:20.000That's why the FBI investigated the crime.
01:10:22.000That's why they collaborated with Utah authorities to find and charge the suspect, which they did.
01:10:28.000And we have ample evidence that there's a ton of evidence in this case.
01:10:31.000Maybe the reason he wasn't involved is it's actually not his department's job to investigate crimes once they're committed.
01:10:37.000Maybe the reason he wasn't looped in as much is because they already suspected him of leaking and he appears to have continued to be leaking things.
01:10:45.000And I'm just, I'm so angry about Charlie, a person we care about, being used in just as a political football in this blatant way where he's using bits of like conversations he supposedly had, bits of evidence to really paint a picture that he can't actually demonstrate evidence for.
01:11:07.000It just, it made me very upset and it demonstrated, frankly, why I suspect it's a good reason he's not in government anymore.
01:11:14.000I know a lot of people have fondness for him, but I think I think this was incredibly, I think this was odious behavior by him.
01:11:21.000And, you know, he dismisses some clear evidence on Trump's behalf.
01:11:25.000It doesn't come up in the conversation at all.
01:11:27.000I mentioned those other allies that were definitely would like to see even more done to Iran.
01:11:32.000But also think about how Trump basically laid out a red line a year ago in a letter saying no more ballistic missile development, no more nuclear development to the point of beyond civilian means and no more funding care proxies.
01:11:44.000Iran literally did all three of those things.
01:11:48.000He's even gone pretty far to say that he's called on Trump to basically knock out Iran's ballistic missile capabilities, which is pretty far out there.
01:11:56.000And then now he's here and he just got there, seemed like within a matter of two weeks.
01:12:04.000I just want to fixate on that because we know there are people who will say things publicly because they're on side or they're part of the movement.
01:12:13.000But it's just incredibly aggravating what he's done where he himself, he has no evidence of the thing he's implying.
01:12:22.000All he can say is, I was cut out of the investigation when it seems there's ample reason to cut him out of the investigation because he's a guy who runs off and does stuff like this.
01:12:31.000And I like we'll be that we've been the first to say Charlie didn't want war with Iran.
01:12:38.000He argued against it to the president.
01:12:40.000We've tried very carefully to present what we knew Charlie believed, how we think he might react to this while acknowledging we aren't sure because he's no longer with us.
01:12:51.000We're trying to not use him as this blatant, you know, veto power over everything.
01:12:56.000And I'm just so upset that Joe Kent runs off, and this is like the first thing he does because he knows it'll go viral.
01:13:03.000He knows it'll get a ton of attention.
01:13:05.000When, as he admits, he actually doesn't have anything.
01:13:13.000They've never, if they're given answers, they don't like the answers and they pretend they were never given them.
01:13:17.000Yeah, the lack of hard evidence definitely strikes me.
01:13:20.000It's so speculative, the argument that's being advanced.
01:13:23.000And just to repeat, just the invoking Charlie is just when he admits multiple times that you didn't know him very well, just really off-putting to me.
01:13:32.000Yeah, and I just want to underscore a fact here because I'm privy to certain details that I'm not allowed to speak about publicly.
01:13:40.000And I want the audience to know every single question that has been floated in any way, shape, or form, we have chased down and we have done our best to.
01:13:51.000So my point is, he's saying we're not allowed to ask questions.
01:13:54.000Well, just because you're not presented with the evidence doesn't mean, or given access to that part of the investigation, doesn't mean that the questions haven't been asked and the lines of inquiry haven't been followed.
01:14:05.000You know, that does not mean things have not been investigated because I know a tremendous amount of things have been investigated and by people that love Charlie, people that cared about Charlie.
01:14:16.000So here's the last thing, you know, and I constantly go back to this Turley quote in my head where he says, if 90% of the evidence against Tyler Robinson was thrown out, this guy would still get the death penalty.
01:14:28.000If the defense somehow succeeded in throwing 90% of this evidence out, he'd still be found guilty in a court of law.
01:14:35.000The amount of evidence that is accumulated against this guy is incredible.
01:14:51.000I am desperate to get to the bottom of those questions.
01:14:55.000I'm even, I'm open to all kinds of different things.
01:14:58.000But to suggest that somehow Tyler Robinson was not the guy that pulled the trigger, I think is a line where I just have to put my foot down and say, no, this guy did the deed, and he deserves to be punished by the court of law.
01:15:14.000Yeah, it's a great summary, and all this is designed, timed to do maximum damage to Trump and his war effort, which, like it or not, we're in it for at least a little bit longer and divide the MAGA movement.
01:15:27.000That's very sad to me as an OG member of the MAGA movement.