The Charlie Kirk Show - The Missing Piece in the "Criminal Conspiracy" to Undermine the 2020 Election with Dinesh D'Souza

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00:01:16.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:17.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 With us right now is a great American patriot who has done so much in just the last decade for the cause for liberty, Dinesh D'Souza.

00:01:27.000 Dinesh, great to see you.

00:01:29.000 Charlie, it's a real pleasure.

00:01:30.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:31.000 Of course, we're here at a Turning Point Action dinner about to talk about your upcoming movie.

00:01:36.000 We also both have podcasts with Salem.

00:01:39.000 First, Yours is the Dinesh D'Souza podcast, right?

00:01:42.000 Comes out every day.

00:01:42.000 Is that right?

00:01:43.000 Exactly.

00:01:44.000 I do it audio and video, and I've been doing it now a little over a year.

00:01:48.000 And so I'm a relatively new podcaster, but really enjoying it.

00:01:51.000 Awesome.

00:01:52.000 Tell us about the movie.

00:01:53.000 We've talked about it a fair amount on this program, but no better person to talk about it than you.

00:01:58.000 Well, I think it's my most important project of all the movies I've done.

00:02:04.000 So this is number six of the documentaries.

00:02:08.000 And I'm sensing, you know, around it, the same kind of electricity I felt around the first movie, which was my Obama film called 20.

00:02:15.000 Really broke the zeitgeist.

00:02:18.000 Yeah, it's the second most successful political documentary of all time after behind Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9-11.

00:02:26.000 But I think, you know, this movie, like that film, pulls the curtain back.

00:02:31.000 In the first film, there was a puzzlement around Obama.

00:02:35.000 Obama was doing all this stuff that seemed to undermine America.

00:02:38.000 And it just seemed, is this man so clueless that he keeps giving away American interests?

00:02:42.000 And so there wasn't a good framework to understand Obama.

00:02:45.000 So I, you know, I got on the plane.

00:02:47.000 I went to Hawaii.

00:02:48.000 I went to Indonesia.

00:02:49.000 I went to Kenya, sort of discover the real Obama.

00:02:53.000 And here, this is a movie that's not, it's called 2,000 Mules.

00:02:56.000 It's not about a person, but it's about a burning issue that is surrounded with a veil of censorship.

00:03:03.000 It's about an issue that's on, it's almost like it's haunting the American mind.

00:03:08.000 And I don't think we can really go forward as a country without learning perhaps not all the truth, but at least some of the truth.

00:03:15.000 And by truth here, I mean documentable, provable facts about the 2020 election.

00:03:21.000 So I'm in the film, and thanks to kind of the Salem partnership, we spent a whole day together.

00:03:27.000 And I'll be honest, Dinesh, I went really out of trust of you because I knew if you were behind it, it was going to be legit.

00:03:35.000 But I still, I had an ounce of skepticism.

00:03:37.000 Like, come on, I've seen all the theories.

00:03:40.000 You know, I believe that this election was tampered with, interfered with, stolen, whatever you want to say.

00:03:45.000 But we always struggled to find like the concrete evidence to put all these things together.

00:03:51.000 And I was blown away.

00:03:52.000 And we had this session both on camera and off camera where we had some really intense moments of asking questions like a jury would almost.

00:04:01.000 And I came away completely convinced that what you have is the missing piece to prove the criminal conspiracy that ended up unfolding that determined the 2020 election.

00:04:12.000 This is a key point, Charlie, because there has been, as you know, a lot of claims going all the way back to Election Day.

00:04:21.000 And the claims have, in some cases, been difficult to adjudicate because it's like, how am I going to evaluate whether the Chinese are hacking our election?

00:04:31.000 It's difficult to know.

00:04:32.000 You know, just because I see dots on a screen, that I don't see Chinese guys doing it, you know? 0.99

00:04:39.000 And so there has been efforts.

00:04:43.000 And then there's also been some very interesting, even video evidence of fraud.

00:04:48.000 Project Veritas had this Somali guy basically, you know, trafficking for votes on the street. 1.00

00:04:53.000 And then the truck driver in Pennsylvania, the ballots in that arena in Atlanta.

00:04:58.000 There was a lot of one-off stuff.

00:05:00.000 Right.

00:05:00.000 And I think the...

00:05:01.000 And none of that's not necessarily wrong.

00:05:02.000 It's just interesting.

00:05:03.000 Yeah.

00:05:03.000 And I call it episodic fraud.

00:05:06.000 And by episodic, I mean it's interesting in itself, but it doesn't show a pattern.

00:05:12.000 And it certainly isn't enough to overturn an outcome.

00:05:16.000 So what you need, and the burden of proof is on us, those who are making the allegation of fraud, to really have some evidence.

00:05:24.000 And I think what's happened weirdly is because the left has been so emphatic.

00:05:29.000 This is the most secure election history.

00:05:31.000 And there's so much censorship around it.

00:05:34.000 And there have been some misfires in an attempt to prove this.

00:05:37.000 It's actually made our job more difficult because it's now people, even on our side, even Republicans approach this with a measure of skepticism, like, yeah, really, what do you got?

00:05:48.000 And we welcome that.

00:05:49.000 We accept the burden of proof.

00:05:51.000 We accept the uphill climb.

00:05:52.000 One second.

00:05:54.000 Go ahead.

00:05:54.000 We accept the uphill climb.

00:05:55.000 We accept the uphill climb.

00:05:56.000 And I think we've got the goods.

00:05:59.000 So you got to be a little bit careful what you talk about here in this conversation, just because we want people to actually go see the movie and they can see it, 2000 Mules, and it's coming out when?

00:06:09.000 So the movie will come out the end of the first week of May.

00:06:14.000 We're releasing it in sort of multiple ways.

00:06:17.000 And remember, this is the case where we have to make sure that we can't have the rug pulled out from under us.

00:06:21.000 So we're going to do a bunch of theater buyouts.

00:06:25.000 That's going to be somewhat limited, partly because Regal Cinemas, which is normally one of our partners, is doing a different kind of business model.

00:06:34.000 They're not doing the theater buyouts anymore.

00:06:36.000 But anyway, we'll have a bunch of buyouts with AMC, with Cinemark, perhaps with a couple of other theater chains.

00:06:41.000 So in about 300 theaters around the country, you'll be able to actually go in the theater and watch the film.

00:06:46.000 And there's some people who just love to do it that way.

00:06:48.000 They're like theater guys and they want to see it on the big screen.

00:06:50.000 And they'll be able to do that, at least in some parts of the country.

00:06:54.000 We're going to do a virtual premiere, which actually allows people to sort of, it's not on Zoom, but you can sort of zoom in, so to speak, be part of the premiere, watch the film.

00:07:04.000 A bunch of us, you included, will want to talk about the film after so people can be part of that and we'll let them know how to do that.

00:07:10.000 So all of this will be on the website.

00:07:12.000 It's not all up yet, but it's 2000muls.com.

00:07:15.000 And then, of course, it'll be available digitally.

00:07:17.000 It'll be available through Rumble Locals.

00:07:19.000 That's one way.

00:07:20.000 And of course, that's an uncancelable platform.

00:07:24.000 And we'll also have it on the Salem platform that's called SalemNow, SalemNow.com.

00:07:29.000 And so those will be two platforms in which you basically just go on the platform, you know, pay 20 bucks or whatever, buy your ticket and watch the movie.

00:07:36.000 So let's talk about at least the trailer I think we can unpack.

00:07:40.000 Is that fair?

00:07:40.000 For sure.

00:07:41.000 And I want to be careful because I want to make sure the real stuff comes out at the proper unveiling.

00:07:46.000 But in the trailer, it shows a video of people putting ballots in to a ballot box.

00:07:50.000 It shows, it alludes to cell phone data points.

00:07:54.000 What can you tell us about all this?

00:07:55.000 What is new for the average listener right now?

00:07:57.000 They're like, come on.

00:07:59.000 Now, a year and a half later, you're trying to say you found something that someone hadn't found before?

00:08:05.000 Well, let's talk first a little bit about the phenomenon called geotracking, because the geotracking is actually, believe it or not, better than the video in the same way that if you're prosecuting a murder trial, fingerprint or DNA evidence is better than eyewitness evidence.

00:08:25.000 Eyewitness evidence can be pretty good, but you can also have eyewitness evidence where people can argue about it.

00:08:32.000 Or fabricate it.

00:08:33.000 Or in some cases, fabricate it.

00:08:35.000 Now, in our case, there's no such fabrication with the video for the simple reason that the video that we're showing in the movie and in the trailer is the official video from the states.

00:08:46.000 So they have it.

00:08:48.000 They have the identical same video.

00:08:50.000 And so this is not a question where we got the video surreptitiously, someone came and dropped it off at night.

00:08:54.000 None of that.

00:08:55.000 This is official video obtained through the proper channels, through open records, by True the Vote, the research organization that dug up this data.

00:09:04.000 And so the video evidence is very reliable, very good.

00:09:07.000 But the geotracking evidence really tells the bigger story.

00:09:10.000 And I say that because the video is not available in all the states.

00:09:13.000 A lot of states just ignored election rules and didn't have surveillance cameras, even though they said they would.

00:09:20.000 And they were supposed to have video cameras.

00:09:23.000 They didn't do it.

00:09:24.000 They just bleeded COVID.

00:09:26.000 They didn't get around to it.

00:09:28.000 And so as a result, there's only some places where you see the bad guys breaking into Fort Knox.

00:09:33.000 But the geotracking evidence, I think, is going to be extremely eye-opening.

00:09:36.000 And it's fun for people to learn about because it's actually part of their everyday lives, whether they know it or not.

00:09:42.000 How much more can you elaborate on that as far as like what you were able to get your hands on?

00:09:49.000 So let's start just by talking a little bit about geotracking because if people don't know what that is.

00:09:53.000 Go through the technical side of it.

00:09:55.000 Right.

00:09:55.000 So the technical side of it, just in very layman's terms, is this, that our phones, our cell phones, on or off, have inside of them hundreds, if not thousands of apps.

00:10:06.000 Now, in the old days, your cell phone would ping off of a tower.

00:10:10.000 And basically, if law enforcement or somebody wanted to get data on your cell phone, they had to go sort of check the pings on the tower.

00:10:17.000 We're not talking about that.

00:10:18.000 We're talking about your apps delivering information about you and most specifically about your location, your location in space and in time.

00:10:28.000 So it's not just placing Charlie Kirk right here at this moment.

00:10:32.000 It's placing Charlie Kirk here.

00:10:34.000 But then it's placing Charlie Kirk somewhere else in your room 30 minutes ago and driving over here an hour ago.

00:10:42.000 And that's called a pattern of life.

00:10:44.000 Within three meters, six meters, a hundred meters?

00:10:47.000 How specific is this?

00:10:48.000 It's almost exact.

00:10:49.000 In other words, the geotracking is putting you at the scene.

00:10:53.000 Is it like a digital fingerprint?

00:10:54.000 It's like GPS.

00:10:55.000 Now, GPS these days is accurate within three or four feet.

00:10:59.000 So GPS used to be kind of random.

00:11:01.000 Remember how it would, you know, GPS was not good in telling you when you can make a U-turn.

00:11:06.000 It couldn't exactly tell where you are.

00:11:08.000 It was an approximation.

00:11:09.000 Right.

00:11:09.000 It's gotten so precise now that you can place somebody at a particular scene, meaning within a few feet.

00:11:17.000 And the more important thing is that as you follow what's called a pattern of life, so what you want to do, if you're looking at a million people, you obviously can't follow all of them.

00:11:27.000 You need some search criteria to say, okay, I'm not trying to find everybody in the hotel.

00:11:33.000 I'm trying to track all the people who went to Charlie's conference.

00:11:37.000 And obviously we know that those people were in a particular conference venue at a given time.

00:11:43.000 So right there, we're down to 200, 300, 400 phones.

00:11:47.000 And this is the key point: you're following a phone.

00:11:50.000 Now, obviously, I could give my phone to my wife Debbie, and it could be her instead of me, but it's my phone.

00:11:56.000 Each of our cell phones has a distinct, what's called a phone ID, and the ID identifies that as being this particular phone.

00:12:05.000 So that's where the fingerprint aspect of it comes in.

00:12:07.000 And so what happens is people who are used to doing what's called election intelligence is they buy geo-tracking data.

00:12:14.000 Now, you can't just buy it by going to Walmart, but you can buy it on the open market from aggregators who sell this data.

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00:13:28.000 Can I pause you really quick and just to clarify this?

00:13:30.000 So you're saying that there's a market out there where people are buying and selling what your cell phone is pinging off.

00:13:40.000 This is the key point.

00:13:41.000 A lot of times when you go on an app, you notice that all these apps are free and you think, well, how do they make money?

00:13:46.000 Well, they make money by selling your data.

00:13:49.000 And who do they sell it to?

00:13:51.000 Well, they sell it to every Tom, Dick, and Harry, right?

00:13:53.000 When you go into CVS, you'll notice that you get a notification on your phone saying they're having a special.

00:14:00.000 Or you're approaching the Apple store, same thing.

00:14:02.000 Or the weather channel is telling you, hey, a storm is going to come into your air.

00:14:06.000 Well, how do they know where you are?

00:14:07.000 You could be traveling, but they still know.

00:14:09.000 And that's because of the geotracking data.

00:14:12.000 So yes, the answer is this is something that's very valuable for the deep state.

00:14:20.000 Geo-tracking was used, for example, to track down Bin Laden, not because of his phone, but other people who were in the building.

00:14:27.000 And you can see that there's a little bit of this in Zero Dark 30, the movie.

00:14:31.000 Geo-Tracking was used to track some January 6th protesters, identify their phones.

00:14:37.000 In fact, they went to Google and they asked Google to provide phone data on January 6th.

00:14:43.000 Law enforcement uses this every day because geo-tracking is extremely valuable.

00:14:48.000 If you have a murder in a park and you identify three cell phones that were in the vicinity of the murder, all you have to do, and law enforcement can do this, they usually go get a warrant.

00:15:00.000 They can, in a sense, unmask those phones and the phones will tell you this phone belongs to John Smith.

00:15:06.000 And then that becomes an immediate spurt of investigation.

00:15:10.000 So it's used commercially, it's used in law enforcement.

00:15:13.000 It is actually part of the fabric of our lives.

00:15:15.000 They can even get information off your phone if your phone is turned off.

00:15:18.000 That's the remarkable thing.

00:15:19.000 How does that work?

00:15:20.000 I'm not sure technologically how it works, but the truth of it is your apps are still delivering information, even if the phone itself is turned off.

00:15:28.000 So it turns out that there are all kinds of ways to collect this data.

00:15:33.000 Now, these aggregators, and there are five or six of them that are like the big boys in this department, they sell this data.

00:15:40.000 And so what this group, through the vote, was able to do is, and they were smart about it.

00:15:45.000 They got a $2 million grant.

00:15:47.000 And so they said, let's buy data in the five key states where the election was decided.

00:15:53.000 And they couldn't even afford to buy the full state.

00:15:56.000 So they said, let's just buy data in the big city areas of sort of Democratic dominance.

00:16:03.000 And so they chose Fulton County, not just Fulton County, it was the greater Atlanta area, which hits three or four counties, Gwinnett County as well.

00:16:12.000 And then they chose Arizona, Maricopa, a little bit in Yuma as well for complicated reasons.

00:16:18.000 And then Detroit and Milwaukee and Philadelphia, greater Philadelphia area.

00:16:24.000 And they bought essentially what's called a geofence.

00:16:27.000 You just put a big circle and say, I want all the phones in this area.

00:16:31.000 And once you get them, and obviously you're going to get a large number of phones.

00:16:34.000 I mean, they got 10 trillion pings.

00:16:36.000 Wait, hold on.

00:16:37.000 10 trillion?

00:16:38.000 10 trillion pillions.

00:16:38.000 Over what period of time?

00:16:40.000 The period of time was from October 1 to election day.

00:16:44.000 And then they also bought data in Georgia for the runoffs.

00:16:48.000 So just to give you an idea of how much a trillion is, right?

00:16:51.000 A trillion, if my math is right, is that a million billions or 1 billion billions?

00:16:56.000 That's 1 million trillion.

00:16:57.000 So 1 million millions is a billion.

00:17:00.000 Yes.

00:17:01.000 And 1 million billions is a trillion.

00:17:03.000 1 trillion.

00:17:04.000 And we're talking 10 of those.

00:17:05.000 10 of those.

00:17:06.000 And then, so just to be able to have that much data on a computer, you need like a supercomputer to go through that.

00:17:10.000 I mean, absolutely.

00:17:12.000 And these guys were working out of a university-connected supercomputer center to process this data.

00:17:18.000 Wow.

00:17:18.000 And what you do is you can't obviously try to follow 10 trillion pings.

00:17:23.000 So what you do is you have to set a search criteria.

00:17:27.000 You say, this is what I'm looking for.

00:17:30.000 And what True the Vote did, which was, I think, extremely smart, is they said, look, let's try to find the worst offenders, right?

00:17:37.000 If some guy went to, let's just say, to a mail-in Dropbox three times, it could be that in one case he went to vote.

00:17:45.000 In the second case, he happened to be tying his shoe right in front of the mailbox.

00:17:51.000 And in the third case, he accidentally went to a mailbox thinking it was a U.S. post mailbox and then realized it's a borrowed market.

00:17:58.000 Or maybe he worked there.

00:17:59.000 I guess the election worker argument they're going to try to use too, like he was picking up maybe.

00:18:04.000 I just read an article about Wisconsin and they were spouting off all this kind of nonsense.

00:18:09.000 So basically what True the Vote said is, look, let's make it simple.

00:18:13.000 If there's trafficking, we're talking now about ballot trafficking.

00:18:16.000 We can talk about what that is.

00:18:18.000 You basically are going to have these mules.

00:18:22.000 A mule is a paid political operative collecting votes, satchels of votes from some vote stash house. 0.93

00:18:30.000 There's going to be a place where they get the votes.

00:18:31.000 They're not going to, these are not votes that these mules come up with themselves. 0.90

00:18:34.000 They're given the vote.

00:18:35.000 So they need to go to some left-wing activist center, get their stash of votes.

00:18:41.000 And then they're instructed to go to a lot of Dropboxes for the simple reason that if you go to one and put in 100 votes, it's going to look really fishy.

00:18:49.000 So it's five votes.

00:18:52.000 Yeah, five votes there. 0.91

00:18:53.000 And so they have a route, kind of like a postal guy.

00:18:57.000 And so what you do is you set a criteria.

00:19:00.000 I want a guy who's going to go to a minimum in this period of four activist centers, four voter stash houses or five, five, I believe was the number they used, and a minimum of 10 Dropboxes. 0.95

00:19:13.000 So you're catching the sort of chronic or worst offenders.

00:19:16.000 You're going to miss a lot of them.

00:19:17.000 Because if some guy goes to three stash houses and goes to four Dropboxes.

00:19:20.000 Maybe he only worked one night.

00:19:22.000 Maybe he only worked one night.

00:19:23.000 Or even if he took all his votes and went to the U.S. post office and dropped them off there, you don't count him.

00:19:28.000 So this is a very, this is a search that's only going to catch a percentage and a small percentage of the worst offenders.

00:19:36.000 Of the overall offenders.

00:19:37.000 Right.

00:19:38.000 So what did they find?

00:19:41.000 So What they found was that, first of all, there were very similar mule operations occurring in all the five states.

00:19:53.000 So, in other words, this is what's significant about this is this is planned.

00:19:57.000 We can come later to like, how do we know and who planned it and so on.

00:20:00.000 But what I'm getting at here is it's sort of like if five different banks are robbed in a similar form at the same time, it could be that five different criminals just decided, let's do it this way, but it's more likely that there's some coordination among some John Corleone, someone is basically telling his guys to hit these men's in these different areas for some reason.

00:20:23.000 So, what I'm getting at is there is coordinated fraud going on here, and its extent varies.

00:20:31.000 But we have all the numbers in the movie and in a book I'm writing that goes with it.

00:20:36.000 But by and large, we're talking about a lot of mules.

00:20:38.000 We're talking over 200 in Georgia.

00:20:42.000 We're talking about over 200 in Arizona, 100 or so in Michigan, over 1,000 in Pennsylvania.

00:20:51.000 The reason we call the movie 2,000 mules is that that's like a lowball count of the mules.

00:20:56.000 And so, as just a tangent, and I want to get back to this, this was largely made possible, though, because of COVID and ballots going everywhere and Zuckerberg also standing up drop boxes.

00:21:08.000 Is that correct?

00:21:09.000 Absolutely correct.

00:21:10.000 Zuckerberg did two things, and one of them is he paid for a lot of these privately funded drop boxes.

00:21:17.000 But the other thing he paid for, which is very important in this whole picture, is he paid for what I would call election office infiltration.

00:21:25.000 And what I mean by that is he offered, he said, I will pay for left-wing nonprofit groups to move into the election offices themselves and help to administer the election.

00:21:38.000 I mean, think about this.

00:21:39.000 You're talking about, this is kind of like saying that while the Dallas Cowboys are playing against another team, Jerry Jones is the referee.

00:21:50.000 Right.

00:21:50.000 Jerry Jones infiltrates the office of the referees and helps conduct the game itself and call the place and count the score and make close.

00:22:00.000 Throw flags whenever they want.

00:22:01.000 That's right.

00:22:01.000 So this happened.

00:22:03.000 And in fact, I've been trying to find out because I thought this has to be illegal.

00:22:07.000 But it's not illegal because no one thought anyone would do this.

00:22:11.000 No one ever dreamed that anyone would have the chutzpah.

00:22:14.000 And of course, Zuckerberg did it with straight out money, right?

00:22:17.000 $420 million is a lot of cash.

00:22:20.000 And what he did was he funneled it through a bunch of nonprofits.

00:22:24.000 The Center for Technology and Civic Life.

00:22:26.000 That was one of them.

00:22:26.000 There was another one.

00:22:27.000 They're two key ones.

00:22:29.000 And the money, and he wasn't the only one paying for this, by the way.

00:22:32.000 So we'll document a lot of the money flow and all this and maybe too much to get into today.

00:22:37.000 But the bottom line is we have to show, whenever you show a heist, you've got to show who paid for it, where'd the money come from?

00:22:43.000 And a lot of money is involved here.

00:22:44.000 So I think we're able to put our fingers on that as well.

00:22:48.000 And so that really was, at the time, we were trying to warn against it.

00:22:54.000 I remember being in the Oval Office with President Trump.

00:22:56.000 He agreed with me.

00:22:57.000 A lot of his staff thought we were nuts to try to say that mail-in balloting was going to be an issue.

00:23:01.000 That was July of 2020 in the midst of all this.

00:23:04.000 But that really was the necessary prerequisite for the mule operation.

00:23:10.000 Is that correct?

00:23:12.000 100%.

00:23:13.000 Think of it this way: you know, if you're going to cheat, and this I think is why True the Vote is so good in this area, because they realized that the cheating is going to occur where the rules have changed.

00:23:26.000 It's like if a bank says, you know what, we're going to start, instead of using four security guards, we'll use one.

00:23:32.000 And instead of having our cameras on 24 hours a day, we'll turn them off at night.

00:23:37.000 And instead of having the tellers do rigorous signature matching, we'll just kind of make sure it's roughly give the benefit of the doubt to the guy signing the check, right?

00:23:48.000 So you're enabling the heist.

00:23:49.000 That's how I'd put it.

00:23:51.000 And that's what occurred prior to the election.

00:23:54.000 Without it, the heist could not have taken place.

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00:24:54.000 And so I'm not going to ask you to speculate on this, but I'll contribute.

00:24:58.000 And you can, I believe it was coordinated.

00:25:01.000 I believe there were go-betweens between trying to get Zuckerberg to put the money in, relaxing the laws, and then having the mules on the ground.

00:25:09.000 I don't know who that is.

00:25:10.000 It might be Mark Elias.

00:25:11.000 It might be any one of these people, but it seems far too coordinated to be able to have all these different pieces.

00:25:17.000 You can comment if you want on that.

00:25:19.000 I'd like to comment in this way that, you know, as I mentioned a moment ago, if five banks are robbed at the same time, most people think there are two ways that could have happened.

00:25:28.000 The first is accidental, five coincidental robberies.

00:25:33.000 The other is, let's call it a conspiracy theory.

00:25:36.000 There's a single conspiracy that organizes the whole thing.

00:25:40.000 But very often people forget about the third possibility, which I think is actually the closest to what we're talking about.

00:25:46.000 It's not an accidental theory or a coincidental theory, and neither is it a pure conspiracy theory.

00:25:52.000 I'm going to call it a coordination theory.

00:25:54.000 So a coordination theory would be, for example, where you and I, Charlie, do things that complement each other.

00:26:01.000 We aren't talking on the phone and planning them, but we are on the same side politically.

00:26:06.000 And so we're acting in concert, kind of the way that birds flying to Florida fly and go in a certain formation.

00:26:12.000 They're not following an actual script.

00:26:14.000 Each bird may simply be watching the bird to its left or to its right and hanging with that bird.

00:26:19.000 And the result is a coordinated or think about the way the media suppressed the Hunter Biden story.

00:26:25.000 As you know, you can't have, I mean, it wasn't that ABC, NBC, the New York Times all got in a morning phone call and said, hey, listen, guys, here we are on Zoom.

00:26:34.000 Let's none of us touch the Hunter Biden story.

00:26:36.000 But they're all on the same side and they all knew what they all knew what they needed to do.

00:26:39.000 They all knew this is extremely damaging.

00:26:41.000 They all knew our job is, in a sense, unofficially to pull Joe Biden across the finish line.

00:26:46.000 This is not good for us.

00:26:47.000 Let's just kind of pretend it doesn't exist.

00:26:49.000 And they all had the same response.

00:26:53.000 So they were acting in a coordinated way because they also knew that if a bunch of them blew it and put the story out, it would sort of undermine the whole thing.

00:27:01.000 So they were able to act in concert without explicit conspiracy.

00:27:04.000 And I think that's what's going on here.

00:27:06.000 They realize we need valent balloting.

00:27:08.000 Mark Elias needed, listen, we don't need, we want to fight rigorous signature matching.

00:27:13.000 And so he did.

00:27:14.000 We want to fight voter ID. 0.75

00:27:15.000 So they were fighting all this stuff.

00:27:17.000 And this is where the Republicans, I think, were caught not napping because, as you know, Trump predicted it.

00:27:23.000 Others predicted it.

00:27:24.000 He tried to warn against it many times and wasn't taken seriously.

00:27:27.000 But you need an army of election lawyers seasoned in election law to fight this stuff from the beginning.

00:27:35.000 So then I think that that's a really smart point.

00:27:37.000 And whether or not there was a national conspiracy or not is actually not the most important point.

00:27:43.000 Correct.

00:27:43.000 The more important point is it happened.

00:27:45.000 Yes.

00:27:46.000 And we may one day find out there was a thread that will then unravel this or not because the facts remain the same whether or not there's a bond villain that put it all together, right?

00:27:57.000 Correct.

00:27:58.000 So the money's out of the bank.

00:28:00.000 We'll get to the second part of it, right?

00:28:02.000 And so let me ask you this, Dinesh.

00:28:05.000 So then you got to the footage part of your documentary, right?

00:28:08.000 So you have the geo-tracking, right?

00:28:11.000 You have all of this.

00:28:12.000 And just so everyone understands, when you watch the movie, you'll see from yourself what I saw.

00:28:17.000 You'll see pings that go from one ballot dropbox to the other all throughout an evening and also going to other Democrat activist headquarters that you'll recognize.

00:28:25.000 But then the video came across, Dinesh, which only furthered your argument.

00:28:30.000 The video seals the deal.

00:28:32.000 And see, the interesting thing is the truth of vote has 4 million minutes of video.

00:28:38.000 And that's only from two states.

00:28:39.000 They're trying to get the two states are Georgia and they got some video from Michigan.

00:28:47.000 They have some video from Arizona as well.

00:28:51.000 But in many of these places, they were blocked from getting the video.

00:28:54.000 It took them a long time to get it.

00:28:56.000 If you ask, why is this taking so long?

00:28:58.000 And some people are even impatient with me.

00:29:00.000 They're like, Dinesh, put it out like yesterday, you know?

00:29:02.000 But the truth of it is that there's a lot of bureaucratic resistance, even from Republicans.

00:29:08.000 Of course there is, yeah.

00:29:10.000 Because a lot of those guys went out publicly early on and said, oh, no, this election was kosher and all.

00:29:16.000 So it's going to be extremely embarrassing for them if the opposite came out.

00:29:20.000 And if it came out that they were sitting on video that they had themselves that showed the exact opposite.

00:29:26.000 So this is a case where institutional forces, even in the GOP, are uncomfortable about what we're doing.

00:29:33.000 But so be it.

00:29:35.000 The video is very instructive.

00:29:37.000 It's eye-opening.

00:29:39.000 But it has to be analyzed carefully because you might see a video.

00:29:44.000 And a lot of the video, as you know, this is not, by the way, my film guys taking this video.

00:29:48.000 This is some poorly positioned camera often recording in grainy footage.

00:29:54.000 But grainy doesn't mean you can't see what's going on.

00:29:57.000 And in many cases, you can actually recognize faces and there's plenty of room for law enforcement to actually follow up on these things because there's the guy in the video.

00:30:05.000 And the other thing is not only is there the guy, we have his cell phone ID because the beauty of doing geo tracking simultaneous with video is the one confirms the other.

00:30:15.000 You find a guy going to five Dropboxes.

00:30:17.000 Now you may not have video on all five.

00:30:19.000 You may have video on box two and box three.

00:30:21.000 You look for it at the exact same time.

00:30:23.000 Whoa, there he is.

00:30:25.000 That's the guy.

00:30:26.000 So can we talk about any of the videos we see in the trailer?

00:30:29.000 We can talk about them a little bit.

00:30:30.000 Sure.

00:30:30.000 Okay.

00:30:30.000 So tell me what you're comfortable discussing in this video.

00:30:33.000 Well, the first video you see in the trailer is a guy that is just trying to shove multiple ballots into...

00:30:41.000 And see, normally it'd be hard to see him because he would have the ballots pressed closely together and you'd have to literally zoom in at a high magnification.

00:30:49.000 But fortunately, I would say from a video point of view and from a movie point of view, the guy like drops the ballots, right?

00:30:54.000 They go fluttering down to the ground.

00:30:56.000 And so then he snook, he picks them up.

00:30:59.000 And this is in Georgia?

00:30:59.000 This is in Georgia.

00:31:00.000 So in Georgia, it's illegal to ballot harvest.

00:31:03.000 Yeah.

00:31:03.000 Now, ballot harvesting, ballot harvesting, as you know, states make these laws and laws vary a little bit from state to state.

00:31:12.000 But what we're talking about, which is to pay mules to traffic votes, is illegal in all 50 states of the union.

00:31:22.000 Yes.

00:31:22.000 And it's very illegal to organize it and to all that.

00:31:26.000 So that video is extraordinary, and you'll see a lot more of it in the movie.

00:31:31.000 So, I guess, Dinesh, a lot of our listeners are at this point of this are going to see the movie.

00:31:37.000 They're going to hopefully bring skeptics to the movie.

00:31:39.000 Do you think it's persuasive for a skeptic that thinks that there was no voter fraud?

00:31:42.000 Without a doubt.

00:31:43.000 I mean, this is the when I was first approached by True the Vote about this, I was skeptical as you were about this issue.

00:31:52.000 And I was because I was let down in every turn.

00:31:55.000 That's it, right?

00:31:56.000 We've been frustrated.

00:31:58.000 We also realize that the topic is radioactive.

00:32:01.000 We're in some ways taking some risk in our careers.

00:32:04.000 Especially post-January 6th, everyone gets so touchy on this subject, right?

00:32:08.000 I mean, one of the first questions that Salem asked me when I told him about this, they were like, Are you going to be subpoenaed by the January 6th Commission?

00:32:15.000 You know, because the Commission itself has become a vehicle of intimidation.

00:32:18.000 With Soviet style, yes. 0.80

00:32:19.000 Yeah, it's sort of like any discussion of the topic is a big lie that is a prelude to an insurrection.

00:32:26.000 So it's a very dangerous act to put it out there.

00:32:31.000 But look, it's going to be out there, and the left is going to have to deal with it in some way or the other.

00:32:37.000 Either ignore it, dismiss it, try to minimize it, try to explain it.

00:32:42.000 Or smear the communicator.

00:32:44.000 Smear the communicator.

00:32:46.000 I think they will do all of the above.

00:32:48.000 But, you know, it reminds me a little bit of the Kyle Rittenhouse case because there's a limit to what you can do when you have video.

00:32:55.000 That's so true.

00:32:56.000 In the Rittenhouse case, I remember watching a detective and he was testifying, oh no, these Antifa guys weren't chasing after Rittenhouse.

00:33:03.000 They were merely running in the same direction.

00:33:06.000 And I'm like, really?

00:33:08.000 But then you play the video, and the jury was like, nah, they're chasing Rittenhouse.

00:33:13.000 So the video settles the matter.

00:33:15.000 And that's why I loved it as a movie guy, because much as I'm fascinated by geo-tracking, to explain something that is technological.

00:33:23.000 And I think this is a little bit, by the way, the problem Mike Lindell had, which is that he was talking, he was trying to talk about cyber warfare.

00:33:30.000 And the ordinary, you and I aren't experts in cyber warfare.

00:33:33.000 You know, you need a panel of cyber experts to adjudicate this, but not in our case.

00:33:37.000 In our case, you can see for yourself.

00:33:40.000 You can make your own decision.

00:33:42.000 And also, our presentation of the evidence is going to be measured, matter-of-fact, and cautious.

00:33:49.000 So this is no one's going to be shouting.

00:33:51.000 It's not over the top.

00:33:52.000 It's this is what we have.

00:33:54.000 This is what we don't have.

00:33:56.000 There's some things we don't know.

00:33:57.000 You and I have talked about this.

00:33:59.000 One thing we don't know is, and in fact, someone in our discussion, and we have this in the movie, people will love this, is he goes, why can't we just go back and pull out all the bad ballots and catch the sounds like Eric Matas?

00:34:13.000 No, this was actually Dennis Bray.

00:34:15.000 Oh, is that right?

00:34:15.000 Yeah, he's like, let's catch the malefactors.

00:34:17.000 Their names are on the ballot.

00:34:18.000 And, you know, then Catherine had to say, no, Dennis, you know, once the ballot is taken out of the envelope, now the mail and envelope is signed.

00:34:26.000 But once the ballot is detached from the envelope, it's just a blank sheet.

00:34:29.000 It doesn't have a name or an address on it.

00:34:31.000 So in that sense, there is no way to go back and put the envelope back with the ballot.

00:34:38.000 That being said, we don't need to do that.

00:34:42.000 We've got the bad guys a different way.

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00:35:50.000 Yes, so I guess that's the question a lot of our listeners are probably at in this moment of the podcast, which is what now, Dinesh?

00:35:58.000 Am I just going to have to get another ringam or roll?

00:36:00.000 What is the action step for the society?

00:36:03.000 Um, if they're convinced on what we've said and they obviously trust us, see the movie for yourself, see the evidence.

00:36:08.000 But is this like, is nothing going to happen now?

00:36:10.000 Well, there are three things here, and there's sort of one piece of bad news and two pieces of good news, you know.

00:36:16.000 And the bad news is that the legal window to do something, because I mean, there is a constituency that is like, okay, if we have the proof, let's go drag Biden right out of the White House.

00:36:30.000 And look, those people aren't crazy.

00:36:32.000 And I say that because, look, Lance Armstrong cheated in the Tour de France.

00:36:36.000 Take away his medals.

00:36:37.000 Houston Astros, they took away the 2000 17 or 18 World Series.

00:36:40.000 Right.

00:36:41.000 Why should, if there is proven fraud, why should you be allowed to keep the fruits of your victory?

00:36:47.000 Well, the answer to that legally is that there is a window in which the fraud needs to be legally demonstrated, kind of like a statute of limitations.

00:36:55.000 And so what we have here is a crime.

00:36:57.000 Let's say it's like a rapist and the statute of limitations has passed.

00:37:01.000 So you can't lock the guy up.

00:37:03.000 But if there's DNA evidence, it's going to be really important.

00:37:06.000 At least you know he did it.

00:37:08.000 It would be like finding, you know, a fingerprint of finding a video of OJ leaving the scene of the crime.

00:37:15.000 You know, it's one thing to suspect, but there he is.

00:37:17.000 That's OJ.

00:37:17.000 Okay, we now know.

00:37:18.000 At least we know.

00:37:19.000 And that's very important.

00:37:20.000 That's a huge vindication for many people on our side who have suspected it.

00:37:25.000 Even the January 6th guy suspected it.

00:37:27.000 And that's why they went to DC, by the way.

00:37:30.000 So I think that it's going to be that feeling of, I'm not crazy, a feeling of relief.

00:37:36.000 Number two.

00:37:37.000 Then anger will come.

00:37:38.000 Anger will come.

00:37:39.000 But I think number three, we want to constructively direct that anger to, number one, yes, at the ballot box, you should punish the bad guys.

00:37:47.000 I mean, if we can wake up America and say, listen, you know, never before in American history has there been a heist of this magnitude, not to my knowledge.

00:37:55.000 Even in the Nixon-Kenned race.

00:37:57.000 They stole the civilization.

00:38:00.000 This is an unimaginable thing that we're dealing with.

00:38:04.000 And this is really by the left knows this, by the way.

00:38:06.000 This is why they're shutting down discussion of it.

00:38:08.000 They know it's dangerous for them to even permit talk about it.

00:38:12.000 Kind of like in the old Soviet Union.

00:38:13.000 It's like you can't talk about all these things, but especially not this.

00:38:18.000 The other thing is it provides a rational foundation for voter integrity laws.

00:38:24.000 As of now, what the left says is basically there's no voter fraud.

00:38:27.000 So why are you Republicans passing all these laws if not to suppress the vote?

00:38:32.000 Since there's no basis for what you're doing, there's no need for it.

00:38:35.000 There hasn't been any heist.

00:38:37.000 You're just trying to deter people, blacks and Hispanics, from even going to the bank. 1.00

00:38:44.000 And crazy though that sounds to us, if their premise is true, the conclusion does have more plausibility.

00:38:51.000 But by blowing the premise out of the water, we're able to say, you know what?

00:38:56.000 There is a pressing need to do certain key things.

00:39:00.000 And we outline what those are at the end of the movie.

00:39:02.000 I think this is really important to be able to say, this is what Republican legislatures can do.

00:39:07.000 This is what attorney generals can do.

00:39:09.000 This is what.

00:39:10.000 I'm so glad that's in the movie, Dinesh.

00:39:12.000 It's in there.

00:39:13.000 Because the millions of people that will see this movie, they're going to want action items.

00:39:17.000 Right.

00:39:18.000 And we will also then have references at the end, which will tell people where they can go to get more information, get more involved.

00:39:25.000 So we're going to close the circle here.

00:39:27.000 And I think in that sense, the movie is more than just a.

00:39:30.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I'm of the place where it's like, we need to start indicting people now.

00:39:34.000 Like, indict the bagman.

00:39:35.000 We know these people that were illegally ballot harvesting in Georgia.

00:39:38.000 You're dropping the ballots.

00:39:40.000 Go arrest that person.

00:39:41.000 Figure out if there was anyone paying them, if there was anyone behind them.

00:39:45.000 You know, these are reasonable questions to ask.

00:39:48.000 Without a doubt.

00:39:48.000 One of the things that I found a little odd in the now, Raffensperger in Georgia has opened up an investigation based upon Truth of Vote's data.

00:39:57.000 But it appears that their investigation, which is moving, by the way, at a, I call it a Durham pace.

00:40:02.000 A glacial pace.

00:40:03.000 So by 2036, we'll get an indictment.

00:40:06.000 The other thing is what they're doing is they're Truth of Vote told Raffensperger that they got going in Georgia because they had a whistleblower.

00:40:15.000 They had a guy who came forward.

00:40:16.000 The guy wanted to be anonymous.

00:40:18.000 He didn't want to, because he's off A, engaging in illegal activity.

00:40:22.000 And number B, he'd become a major target if he went public.

00:40:26.000 So he's like, I am not giving my name.

00:40:29.000 And the Georgia investigation appears to be solely focused, as far as I know at this point, on let's go find the whistleblower.

00:40:35.000 This is like a needle in a haystack because the guy's disappeared.

00:40:38.000 He's obviously in hiding.

00:40:39.000 He doesn't want to come.

00:40:40.000 But don't you have a mule in your movie?

00:40:41.000 Is that right or no?

00:40:43.000 We do, but that's a different.

00:40:44.000 We have, we thought, listen, you're going to show videos of mules.

00:40:48.000 People are going to wanna, who are these people?

00:40:50.000 I'd like to hear from a mule.

00:40:51.000 And I will tell you that in the movie, you will hear from a mule, but not that mule.

00:40:56.000 And because I think this is a case where we want to leave no doors.

00:41:05.000 We want to make sure we've latched everything here and done our best.

00:41:09.000 Now, there are things we can't do.

00:41:10.000 You referred to indictments.

00:41:12.000 I mean, I'd love to be able to go to these voters' dash houses and basically call out the mule.

00:41:17.000 Yeah, it's really going to be up to Mark Bernovich, who I know.

00:41:20.000 He's come on the program.

00:41:21.000 It's going to be up to whoever the Attorney General of Georgia is to look at the evidence and be like, you know, this is not, we're not going to tolerate this.

00:41:28.000 And the voters have to communicate that too.

00:41:30.000 This is critical.

00:41:31.000 Because a lot of times Republican legislatures at the state level are a little casual about all this stuff.

00:41:37.000 And then if they're caught napping, their institutional energy becomes one of not wanting to be exposed as being incompetent or buffoons and having been outwitted by the other side.

00:41:48.000 So they join the other side and kind of maintaining a common front.

00:41:52.000 Everything was okay right here, guys.

00:41:54.000 And I think we need people to go to them and say, listen, you have to do something.

00:41:58.000 This will blow people's minds.

00:41:59.000 Where if you have an elected official, a relative, if you're running for office and people are saying, remember the media, oh, the election was fine.

00:42:06.000 You're like, you sit down and watch this movie with me.

00:42:09.000 No, seriously, watch it with me and tell me where you think is okay with this.

00:42:14.000 I think it's that persuasive of a piece of content.

00:42:16.000 I think it's like SeaWorld ending Blackfish.

00:42:19.000 You know that documentary?

00:42:20.000 It ended SeaWorld.

00:42:21.000 I think it's like Al Gore Inconvenient Truth style documentary impact.

00:42:27.000 And maybe I'm overhyping it, Dinesh.

00:42:30.000 Well, we also.

00:42:31.000 You got 75 million people who believe the election was stolen.

00:42:35.000 And if we can reach those people, they will want to wake up and they will know what to do.

00:42:40.000 The thing is here also that we take you into the weeds in the movie.

00:42:45.000 I'm not afraid of showing people, because most people go behind a curtain, they vote.

00:42:50.000 They don't see, just like in a restaurant, you don't see the sausage being made.

00:42:54.000 But this is the movie where you need to do that.

00:42:56.000 And you also need to realize that there are other offices, you know, the Secretary of State, for example, critical offices, and the left has realized this for a decade.

00:43:07.000 Then people like Soros have put a lot of money into winning those kinds of elections.

00:43:11.000 Yes.

00:43:12.000 And why?

00:43:13.000 Because this is kind of what happens.

00:43:15.000 Let's say there's a left-wing group in Michigan that wants to water down the signature requirement. 0.68

00:43:22.000 What do they do?

00:43:22.000 They go to the Secretary of State and they say, We're going to sue you because you're engaging in voter suppression and you need to water down your signature requirements.

00:43:31.000 And the Secretary of State is a Democrat.

00:43:33.000 So the Secretary of State looks at them and goes, You know what?

00:43:37.000 You're right.

00:43:38.000 Let's make a consent decree.

00:43:40.000 You drop your lawsuit and I'll agree to water down the signature requirements.

00:43:43.000 So what's going on here is a collusion between two parties supposedly on opposite sides in which the Democratic officials are essentially letting the opportunity.

00:43:53.000 The Republicans do it too, though.

00:43:54.000 Kemp and Raffensperger did that with Elias right before the 2020 election privately in March of 2020, which plays into all of this relaxing the signature standards.

00:44:04.000 This is a, but this becomes a bit of an anomaly, right?

00:44:07.000 Because you would wonder, why would a Republican, why would a Republican Secretary of State, a Republican governor do that?

00:44:16.000 Either were they outwitted by the Stacey Abrams folks?

00:44:19.000 Were they intimidated in some way?

00:44:21.000 Why would they agree to something that is obviously going to be bad for the GOP?

00:44:25.000 I think intimidation is the best answer.

00:44:27.000 They were afraid of Stacey Abrams.

00:44:28.000 Yeah.

00:44:28.000 They were afraid of being called racists and all of that.

00:44:31.000 So in closing, Dinesh, there's a lot more we could talk about here.

00:44:34.000 You got to go speak at our dinner here, which we're excited about.

00:44:37.000 2000mules.com.

00:44:38.000 Is that right?

00:44:39.000 2000mules.com.

00:44:40.000 And by the way, on that, you can also sign up for email updates, which is cool because it gets around all the censorship.

00:44:46.000 How has that been?

00:44:46.000 People signing up in big numbers?

00:44:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:48.000 I mean, we've got, well, we've got 80,000 or so signed up already for email updates.

00:44:53.000 And that's a pretty good number in a very short time.

00:44:56.000 We haven't even released our official trailer for the movie, which is coming out shortly.

00:44:59.000 Well, we're going to be heavily promoting it, probably doing events collaboratively on it.

00:45:03.000 It was really, it was a really interesting thing.

00:45:06.000 So I was running late because our plane got all messed up because I got 50 mile-an-hour winds.

00:45:10.000 And so I'm in the movie and no one prepped me in any way.

00:45:14.000 Meaning, this was a candid deal.

00:45:16.000 Like no one told you what to say.

00:45:18.000 And what's so cool, Dinesh, is you caught us on camera processing the evidence in real time.

00:45:25.000 Well, cinematically, it works beautifully.

00:45:27.000 And you know why?

00:45:28.000 Because even though you got six of us, right?

00:45:31.000 Six of us Salem hosts having a conversation.

00:45:33.000 I would say it was probably four against two in the sense that four skeptics and two guys who like, quote, knew it was stolen.

00:45:42.000 You know, yeah, was I in the stolen category?

00:45:44.000 No, you were in the skeptic category.

00:45:46.000 I mean, you're in the category where like show me the evidence.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, so I was like, I was, I thought I was, I'm thinking about Dennis, who was like the most skeptical, probably, right?

00:45:54.000 But I was Dennis, Dennis hesitated about even coming.

00:45:57.000 He was a little scared of the topic because I think he knew that this is radioactive.

00:46:01.000 You put it up on YouTube, you can lose your YouTube channel.

00:46:03.000 Yeah, no, and I, I just, I repeatedly was asking questions and like, what would other people, how would people debunk this, right?

00:46:11.000 And so we had Larry Elder, Eric Metaxas, Dennis, you, and Gorka.

00:46:15.000 Me and Gorka.

00:46:16.000 Yeah.

00:46:17.000 And it's very, it's fun because, as you say, had it been prepped, you'd come in with, I know what I want to say.

00:46:23.000 I've got my conclusions.

00:46:25.000 I had no idea.

00:46:25.000 But none of them did.

00:46:27.000 I mean, no one did.

00:46:27.000 So the beauty of it was everybody was looking at this stuff for the first time and reacting spontaneously.

00:46:34.000 And I think those reactions will mirror exactly what people in the audience are thinking.

00:46:38.000 Does it come across well in the editing?

00:46:40.000 It comes across great, really.

00:46:42.000 It's awesome.

00:46:42.000 Yeah.

00:46:43.000 So 2000mules.com.

00:46:45.000 Any other thoughts, Dinesh?

00:46:46.000 Well, I think this is going to be an interesting moment because we've lived with this now.

00:46:52.000 And I think the reason we can't go forward on it is that the people who suspect fraud are going to be discouraged from participating in the process unless they believe that something is being done about this.

00:47:07.000 And with the movie, you get, I don't claim to know everything about what happened in the 2020 election, but what I am saying is we know enough.

00:47:15.000 And since we know enough, that's reason to want to take the steps to prevent this from happening in the future.

00:47:22.000 It's a game changer.

00:47:23.000 I'm telling you, it's the most important issue right now.

00:47:27.000 The whole civilization was hijacked.

00:47:29.000 And I think that Dinesh has the smoking gun, the video, the whole story behind it.

00:47:34.000 And so we want to support that.

00:47:36.000 Dinesh, we'll have you back on to promote it.

00:47:37.000 But it's coming out now.

00:47:38.000 I mean, we're in crunch time here.

00:47:41.000 Absolutely.

00:47:42.000 We're 30 days out-ish?

00:47:43.000 Yeah, we're pretty much.

00:47:44.000 I mean, we're hurrying to get this stuff together.

00:47:47.000 And remember with the movie, we put in music, a lot of effects to go in and so on.

00:47:51.000 So it's going to be a great experience for people.

00:47:53.000 And again, there's different ways you can see this.

00:47:56.000 And we're going to make it so that every American, ultimately, I think there's worldwide interest in this because a lot of people in other countries who want to know, they're curious about this issue.

00:48:05.000 Yeah.

00:48:05.000 I'm sure Ukraine would love, like, hey, why my country?

00:48:08.000 This is why your country's being invaded, actually.

00:48:10.000 No, think about that.

00:48:10.000 No, I'm not kidding.

00:48:11.000 Like, the numbers in Kyiv are going to spike.

00:48:13.000 Like, oh, wow, this is why I'm being invaded.

00:48:15.000 Fascinating.

00:48:16.000 Wouldn't have happened under Trump.

00:48:18.000 Wow.

00:48:18.000 Yes.

00:48:19.000 Dinesh, thank you so much.

00:48:20.000 My pleasure.

00:48:24.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:48:25.000 Email us your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com and support our program at charliekirk.com slash support.

00:48:32.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:48:33.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 29, 2022

The Missing Piece in the "Criminal Conspiracy" to Undermine the 2020 Election with Dinesh D'Souza

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