The Charlie Kirk Show - January 02, 2022


The Moral Necessity of Choosing Courage and Happiness with Dennis Prager


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In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Dennis Prager sits down with his hero and mentor Charlie Kirk to discuss his new book, "The Rational Bible," and why it's a must-read book for people of no faith.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, this long-ranging conversation with Dennis Prager is brought to you with no advertisers.
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00:00:42.000 Dennis Prager is here.
00:00:43.000 Here we go.
00:00:43.000 Buckle up.
00:00:44.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:46.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:48.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:52.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:55.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:56.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:57.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:05.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:14.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:17.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:20.000 With us is one of my mentors and heroes.
00:01:23.000 Wow.
00:01:24.000 Dennis Prager.
00:01:25.000 Well, let me just say, if I am one of your mentors or one of your heroes, I've accomplished a lot.
00:01:31.000 Because you, you.
00:01:34.000 I was telling somebody about you, and you'll probably get embarrassed, but it doesn't matter.
00:01:39.000 Every generation throws out exceptional people.
00:01:42.000 It's just a fact of history.
00:01:43.000 You're one of them.
00:01:45.000 Thank you.
00:01:45.000 That does embarrass me.
00:01:47.000 I knew it.
00:01:47.000 I knew it.
00:01:48.000 It was said to embarrass you.
00:01:50.000 I'm almost done with the rational Bible, Genesis.
00:01:52.000 It's very good.
00:01:54.000 That's the work of my life, my Bible commentary.
00:01:57.000 If every one of your viewers, if half of them read it, I think it's, I do believe, as awful as it is for the author to say, it's transformative.
00:02:08.000 It really is.
00:02:10.000 The rational Bible is the name, by the way.
00:02:13.000 So Genesis and Exodus.
00:02:14.000 Right, Deuteronomy is coming out next year.
00:02:16.000 It would have come out this year, but they didn't have paper.
00:02:19.000 All the shortages, isn't that amazing?
00:02:21.000 And there's another reason.
00:02:22.000 Do you know you'll find this interesting?
00:02:25.000 In my contract with every publisher is a paper quality clause.
00:02:32.000 Really?
00:02:32.000 I will not allow a book of mine printed on fish paper, fish wrapping paper, which is what most books are published on today.
00:02:40.000 Of course.
00:02:40.000 Right.
00:02:41.000 So the book is beautiful aside from meaningful.
00:02:46.000 But it needs to be.
00:02:47.000 Yes, it does.
00:02:48.000 It's a very important thing.
00:02:50.000 I couldn't agree more.
00:02:52.000 So I thought you'd find that of interest.
00:02:54.000 Anyway, it's called The Rational Bible.
00:02:55.000 I pray that you people will.
00:02:57.000 It really is.
00:02:57.000 Yes, it is.
00:02:58.000 And it's written for people of no faith.
00:03:02.000 Correct.
00:03:02.000 Or Christians, Jews.
00:03:03.000 It's irrelevant.
00:03:04.000 Irrelevant.
00:03:05.000 Do you know who I have in mind while I write the book?
00:03:07.000 This will blow your mind.
00:03:09.000 I'm not kidding.
00:03:10.000 A Chinese peasant who never heard of the word Bible. 0.96
00:03:14.000 Really?
00:03:15.000 Yes.
00:03:16.000 Can I make this explicable to this person?
00:03:19.000 Then I've achieved my goal.
00:03:21.000 And so you found that through, what, your whole life of Torah study, that there's rational explanations.
00:03:32.000 Correct, for everything.
00:03:33.000 For everything.
00:03:34.000 Yeah, my route to faith is purely through reason.
00:03:38.000 It's a blessing.
00:03:39.000 Sometimes it's a curse.
00:03:40.000 I'm not mystical, to be honest.
00:03:44.000 And I don't find appealing, non-rational things, things that don't make sense, don't appeal to me.
00:03:51.000 And I make sense of everything in the first five books of the Bible, which are the most important books to a Christian or a Jew.
00:03:58.000 As I point out to Christians, Jesus only knew the Torah. 0.98
00:04:02.000 And he quoted Deuteronomy.
00:04:04.000 Well, he certainly did.
00:04:05.000 Satan.
00:04:05.000 Loving God and loving humans.
00:04:08.000 It comes from there.
00:04:10.000 You know, it's whatever your faith or no faith.
00:04:14.000 Anyway, it's written so that you will get wisdom from the greatest book ever written.
00:04:20.000 And so Leviticus is down the road.
00:04:22.000 Correct.
00:04:22.000 And then Numbers is.
00:04:24.000 Numbers is next.
00:04:26.000 I'm working on Numbers now, which is the worst name for a book possible.
00:04:30.000 It's like one Christian Bible scholar said, you might as well title it a phone directory.
00:04:37.000 It's so unappealing.
00:04:38.000 Do you know what the Hebrew name for the book is?
00:04:40.000 No, I don't.
00:04:41.000 In the wilderness.
00:04:42.000 Isn't that a little more inviting?
00:04:44.000 Of course.
00:04:45.000 So how did we get to numbers?
00:04:46.000 Oh, because there's a census in the first chapter.
00:04:49.000 Really?
00:04:50.000 Yes.
00:04:51.000 But in the Hebrew, the title is...
00:04:53.000 The title is In the Wilderness.
00:04:55.000 That's much more inviting.
00:04:56.000 No kidding.
00:04:58.000 No.
00:04:59.000 I have to compliment you, though.
00:05:00.000 As a Christian, it has been so helpful and written very fairly and just really, really wise and insightful.
00:05:08.000 So I got in a debate last night with some friends of mine that we were having dinner after all of this, really good friends and really big supporters of the organization.
00:05:18.000 I say, okay, your dog is stranger.
00:05:22.000 Fascinating.
00:05:23.000 Which would you say first?
00:05:24.000 Right.
00:05:25.000 And they chose the dog.
00:05:27.000 You're trying to tell me you wouldn't save Otto and the stranger?
00:05:30.000 That's correct.
00:05:31.000 I would save the stranger.
00:05:35.000 That's the best example you could give of do you follow your values or your heart?
00:05:41.000 See, this is, are they Christians the people you debated with?
00:05:46.000 Yes.
00:05:46.000 Right.
00:05:47.000 So I thought so.
00:05:49.000 So here is a perfect example of how seriously do most people take their religion?
00:05:56.000 And the answer is not very.
00:05:58.000 That's correct.
00:05:59.000 It's not an attack.
00:06:00.000 It's not a criticism.
00:06:01.000 People are human.
00:06:03.000 But that's a perfect example.
00:06:04.000 If the Bible warns us against anything repeatedly, it's following our heart.
00:06:09.000 And here are Christians telling you, I would follow my heart and let a human drown. 1.00
00:06:13.000 Humans are created in God's image.
00:06:14.000 Dogs are not.
00:06:15.000 And I'll let the human drown because my heart prompts me to my dog. 0.66
00:06:20.000 And you say this is a dog lover.
00:06:22.000 Of course.
00:06:23.000 Because the accusation, some people that would say that.
00:06:25.000 No, no, listen, you better understand the attachment.
00:06:28.000 Most dogs like I do.
00:06:29.000 Right, okay. 0.94
00:06:29.000 Which is a silly argument. 0.94
00:06:31.000 It's a totally silly argument because, well, the better example than me is my wife, who's who will bend down to the ground and give Otto a kiss. 0.98
00:06:42.000 And Snoopy. 0.64
00:06:44.000 And Snoopy.
00:06:45.000 Thank you.
00:06:45.000 It's amazing that people know both our dogs since only one is on camera.
00:06:49.000 And Nate the Great.
00:06:52.000 I'm very touched that you know the fireside show.
00:06:55.000 I know you know every single one.
00:06:56.000 Nate the Great.
00:06:58.000 What were his parents thinking is the real question?
00:07:04.000 Okay, so let me explain to those who don't know.
00:07:08.000 They have no idea.
00:07:09.000 I do a weekly fireside chat.
00:07:11.000 Which is another game changer, I have to say.
00:07:13.000 And it's a brilliance behind it, and it's the fact that you guys are so intent on time.
00:07:20.000 That's right.
00:07:21.000 It really leaves you demanding more.
00:07:23.000 I'm not kidding.
00:07:24.000 Anyway, go ahead.
00:07:24.000 No, no, you're right.
00:07:25.000 We ended a half hour.
00:07:27.000 Sometimes Otto walks out a half hour.
00:07:29.000 It's hilarious.
00:07:30.000 Sometimes he snores.
00:07:31.000 Oh, that's often.
00:07:33.000 Nate the Great is the videographer.
00:07:37.000 And he's single, if anyone's listening.
00:07:38.000 Yes.
00:07:40.000 So he can't believe that the country knows that his parents nicknamed him Nate the Great.
00:07:46.000 And now even more people know it.
00:07:48.000 And now even more people know it.
00:07:52.000 I love the guy.
00:07:53.000 And like everywhere, as you know, I try to get everybody married.
00:07:57.000 Yes.
00:07:58.000 I do.
00:07:59.000 You know, talking about, here's a great example of taking your faith seriously.
00:08:04.000 I had dinner recently at a speech of mine.
00:08:07.000 I won't even say what city.
00:08:09.000 And I was with, they put me wonderfully with five young people, all in their early, under 25, okay?
00:08:16.000 And who were big fans of mine and who were all committed Christians, some Catholic, some Protestant.
00:08:23.000 And I asked them about the marriage issue.
00:08:27.000 I asked them if you can get one guarantee.
00:08:30.000 I asked the women because it's particularly of interest to me.
00:08:34.000 I asked the three girls or women.
00:08:38.000 A question I ask almost any woman I meet, even in an elevator.
00:08:42.000 And that is, if you could have one guarantee, a guaranteed great marriage or a guaranteed great career, doesn't mean you can't have the other.
00:08:52.000 Only one's guaranteed, however.
00:08:54.000 Which guarantee would you take?
00:08:56.000 All of them, the three women took the marriage, which was a good sign. 0.99
00:09:01.000 So one of them is with a guy for five years.
00:09:03.000 I said, why aren't you married?
00:09:05.000 She said, well, I don't have all my ducks in a row, meaning my profession's not ready and I'm not making enough money.
00:09:14.000 And I said, I don't understand.
00:09:17.000 Why can't you make that money and get your ducks in the row while married? 1.00
00:09:21.000 And it was fascinating.
00:09:23.000 She had never been asked the question.
00:09:25.000 And I mentioned that they're all religious.
00:09:27.000 Doesn't you don't do Deo-Christian values push you to get married and make a commitment?
00:09:34.000 You would think.
00:09:35.000 You would think.
00:09:36.000 Well, and without prying into this person's personal life that I haven't met, marriage is all supposed to be a place that you save yourself for in that.
00:09:47.000 Well, I'm not claiming that she's had sex with this guy.
00:09:50.000 I'm not sure that.
00:09:51.000 I'm not saying, but just in the hypothetical, if that isn't the case, then why get married?
00:09:57.000 I mean, why not wait?
00:10:01.000 Here's the key.
00:10:02.000 She had no answer.
00:10:05.000 To her great credit, she didn't make up an answer.
00:10:07.000 And I said, I don't understand why you think you need to have all your ducks in a row.
00:10:13.000 What does that mean?
00:10:15.000 And by the way, forgetting religion, isn't it wonderful to grow in the marriage?
00:10:19.000 We started out and we counted every penny and we had a little apartment and now look where we are now to go through life together like that?
00:10:29.000 There's so much non-clarity.
00:10:31.000 Anyway, marriage is in decline in America, unlike at any time in its history.
00:10:40.000 It's a tragedy beyond words.
00:10:43.000 And we mentioned this on our show quite often, and I give you credit for it.
00:10:48.000 We locked down the country.
00:10:49.000 We never should have.
00:10:50.000 Worst mistake in human history, Western history.
00:10:54.000 In international history.
00:10:55.000 And I want to ask you about that in a second.
00:10:57.000 But the reason I bring it up is that some thought the birth rate would go up after everyone's talk about that.
00:11:04.000 And I don't know, has it?
00:11:06.000 I don't know what the answer.
00:11:06.000 It went down dramatically.
00:11:08.000 Interesting.
00:11:08.000 Lowest ever.
00:11:09.000 500,000 less babies this year than last year.
00:11:12.000 And that's with people stuck together.
00:11:14.000 That's fascinating.
00:11:16.000 Look, we're living through the age of the absurd because generally because people with PhDs are directing the country.
00:11:27.000 And I say this with no exaggeration, no humor. 1.00
00:11:35.000 For most people, college makes you stupid and graduate school makes you a fool. 1.00
00:11:41.000 It's not always true. 1.00
00:11:43.000 There are people.
00:11:44.000 Let's put it this way.
00:11:45.000 Nobody is wise because of college.
00:11:48.000 You can be wise if you went to college because you have somehow not let it affect you.
00:11:54.000 Like Hillsdale, maybe.
00:11:55.000 That's right.
00:11:56.000 No, of course there is.
00:11:57.000 Incredibly rare, yes.
00:11:58.000 Yes.
00:11:59.000 You're talking to the right person about college.
00:12:01.000 I know that.
00:12:02.000 You are a perfect example.
00:12:04.000 You are the poster boy for how much wisdom you can gain not going to college.
00:12:11.000 Will Witt at that Prager U dropped out of college.
00:12:14.000 I don't know if Amala is sidekicked now.
00:12:17.000 I don't know if she went to college.
00:12:19.000 I do know that she has a Black Lives Matter tattoo. 0.95
00:12:22.000 Really?
00:12:22.000 Isn't that amazing?
00:12:23.000 I didn't know that.
00:12:24.000 Isn't that?
00:12:24.000 I know.
00:12:24.000 I didn't know it.
00:12:26.000 I was with Amala.
00:12:27.000 So we have Will and Amala at Prager U. She's very talented.
00:12:31.000 She's another one that just the generation throughout a great human being. 0.86
00:12:36.000 And Amala is the child of an African father, not African-American, African, and a white left-wing mom.
00:12:46.000 The dad left them very early.
00:12:48.000 So she was raised by the single white leftist mother who totally influenced her.
00:12:54.000 And to the point that she was so left-wing, just so recently, she has a BLM tattoo.
00:13:02.000 I didn't know this.
00:13:03.000 We were at a fundraiser for Prager U in the Midwest or in this, I don't remember where, Texas, I think.
00:13:08.000 And she announced it in the speech.
00:13:11.000 And I couldn't believe it.
00:13:13.000 I was stunned.
00:13:14.000 I didn't even know it.
00:13:15.000 That gives you an idea of how far she traveled in such a brief period of time, in part because she's just a thinker and in part because of Prager U. Wow.
00:13:28.000 So I don't know if she went to college, but I'll tell you this.
00:13:31.000 If you apply to work at Prager U, we don't hold it against you if you went to college, but it's certainly not in your favor.
00:13:38.000 Same at turning point.
00:13:39.000 I mean, without a doubt.
00:13:41.000 Exactly.
00:13:42.000 Yes.
00:13:42.000 Well, if you didn't go to college and made a lot of yourself, you just started a little company or something.
00:13:49.000 Doesn't that tell me infinitely more than a BA in sociology from Brown?
00:13:53.000 Well, and I tell this to young people.
00:13:55.000 I say, in any market, differentiation is desirable.
00:14:00.000 Not going to college is like the new Sloan fellow.
00:14:03.000 Everyone looks at you.
00:14:05.000 You didn't go to college?
00:14:06.000 Really?
00:14:06.000 Can I have coffee with you?
00:14:07.000 Can I learn from that?
00:14:08.000 That's fascinating.
00:14:09.000 Good.
00:14:09.000 I'm glad to hear it.
00:14:10.000 It's the ultimate way to stand out.
00:14:12.000 By the way, one of the advantages is you don't have debt.
00:14:15.000 That's correct.
00:14:16.000 That's squashing.
00:14:17.000 But anyway, you mentioned about the started with the lockdown and people not having college.
00:14:21.000 Yeah, I really want, because I want to say, Dennis, I have to interrupt briefly here.
00:14:25.000 Your leadership on the topic, I don't think you get enough credit for.
00:14:29.000 Because you were.
00:14:30.000 No, but you were early.
00:14:32.000 You were clear.
00:14:34.000 I get attacked for it, but I don't know how often I get praised.
00:14:38.000 But everyone acts as if we were always against lockdowns.
00:14:41.000 There's a lot of memory.
00:14:43.000 Right.
00:14:43.000 In March of 2020, I said it was the greatest mistake in history, not the greatest evil.
00:14:49.000 So can you explain the difference between an evil and a mistake?
00:14:53.000 Yeah, I mean.
00:14:53.000 Well, evil is the Holocaust is evil.
00:14:56.000 Stalin is evil. 0.99
00:14:57.000 Stalin is evil. 0.99
00:14:59.000 So I'm not putting it in that category.
00:15:00.000 Those are not mistakes.
00:15:02.000 Those are deliberate evils.
00:15:04.000 This is a mistake.
00:15:05.000 This is a colossal error.
00:15:07.000 The damage it has done is not even yet calculated.
00:15:12.000 The number of lives ruined, the number, you know, last year, just in America, don't even start me on poor countries.
00:15:20.000 Just in America, the last year, this past year, had the most deaths from drugs, drug overdose.
00:15:28.000 100,000 plus.
00:15:30.000 Yes.
00:15:31.000 And they're mostly young people.
00:15:33.000 Whereas overwhelmingly, the deaths of COVID are old people, just for the record.
00:15:39.000 And I'm on the old side, not the young side.
00:15:41.000 You had COVID.
00:15:42.000 And I had COVID, and it was nothing.
00:15:44.000 My colds are worse than the COVID I had.
00:15:47.000 I broadcast three days later, and I know why, or I am almost certain, I should say, because I was taking therapeutics for a year and a half.
00:15:54.000 Ivermectin.
00:15:55.000 Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and vitamin D. Exactly.
00:16:01.000 Selenium, that's exactly right.
00:16:04.000 It was a catastrophe and it was all hysteria.
00:16:11.000 According to Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale Medical School.
00:16:18.000 So I'm giving you a doctor.
00:16:19.000 I'm giving you an epidemiologist.
00:16:22.000 The medical profession in America killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.
00:16:26.000 I believe that.
00:16:28.000 This is what American medicine said.
00:16:31.000 You have COVID.
00:16:32.000 Hopefully you'll get better.
00:16:34.000 We're going to give you nothing to make you better until you are so sick as to be hospitalized. 0.99
00:16:39.000 Then we'll give you a ventilator and you will die.
00:16:42.000 American medicine did nothing, nothing to prevent people from getting sick.
00:16:48.000 To prevent them to getting sick to begin with, but that's irrelevant.
00:16:52.000 You'll get COVID no matter what.
00:16:54.000 But to prevent it from being serious.
00:16:56.000 It is the first time in American medical history that doctors gave you nothing to help you when you got COVID.
00:17:05.000 The scandal is so great.
00:17:11.000 American med, my beloved brother, and he's a special human being and a special doctor.
00:17:18.000 You have to understand, I grew up venerating medicine in this country.
00:17:22.000 I now have contempt for the profession.
00:17:24.000 Some doctors are giants, but the profession stinks.
00:17:28.000 Well, what changed?
00:17:29.000 What changed?
00:17:31.000 Two things.
00:17:31.000 They all work for somebody instead of being self-employed.
00:17:36.000 And two, that what was the other?
00:17:40.000 This is really important that I remember this.
00:17:42.000 What changed is, oh yes, the left has influenced medicine.
00:17:46.000 Whatever the left touches, it ruins.
00:17:48.000 That is one of the themes of my life.
00:17:51.000 There is nothing the left touches from late night television to football to universities to classical music and art and architecture and sculpture and Boy Scouts and medicine.
00:18:03.000 The American Medical Association announced this past year, I know you know this, that birth certificates should not list the sex of the newborn.
00:18:12.000 There is no male and female in the human species, according to the American Medical Association.
00:18:19.000 That's how woke medicine has become.
00:18:23.000 And it's hard for some people to process that doctors aren't doing what's best for their patients.
00:18:30.000 It's very hard.
00:18:32.000 And they certainly don't mean to run into this difficulty all the time.
00:18:34.000 I'm explaining it to people.
00:18:36.000 It's horrific.
00:18:37.000 That's correct.
00:18:39.000 These people care for their patients.
00:18:41.000 I don't deny that.
00:18:42.000 It just shows you that good intentions mean nothing in the history of the world.
00:18:48.000 So I don't believe your doctor want.
00:18:50.000 I don't think American doctors wanted to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.
00:18:56.000 But I don't care what they want.
00:18:58.000 And that was going to be my question.
00:19:00.000 I'm glad you answered it before I asked it, which is, does it matter if this was a mistake or if this was diabolical?
00:19:07.000 Okay.
00:19:08.000 Diabolical, you mean intentional or literally diabolical?
00:19:13.000 Essentially both.
00:19:14.000 Okay, I mean, I don't need to go there.
00:19:15.000 I don't need to go.
00:19:16.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:19:16.000 I'll go anywhere.
00:19:17.000 You know that.
00:19:19.000 So does it matter?
00:19:21.000 It only matters in that I want people to understand I am not attacking doctors as nice people.
00:19:27.000 I'm attacking them as doctors.
00:19:30.000 They failed.
00:19:31.000 American medicine failed and hundreds of thousands of people probably died as a result of that failure.
00:19:38.000 Not to mention the millions that have had permanent life adjustments negatively.
00:19:41.000 Yes.
00:19:42.000 And the sheep-like behavior where the medical associations will take your license away if you prescribe two of the safest drugs known to humanity.
00:19:53.000 Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.
00:19:55.000 Yes.
00:19:55.000 And you had on your show early, early than we did, Dr. Zelenko.
00:19:59.000 That's right.
00:20:00.000 Upstate New York.
00:20:01.000 Who they call a quack.
00:20:02.000 Yes.
00:20:03.000 He saved hundreds of people's lives with this.
00:20:05.000 He's treated 7,000 people, has only lost three patients.
00:20:08.000 Yes.
00:20:09.000 So what makes him a fraud?
00:20:11.000 Did he not treat those people?
00:20:13.000 He's more of a threat, I think.
00:20:15.000 He's a threat.
00:20:15.000 That's exactly right.
00:20:16.000 And I'm a threat, and you're a threat.
00:20:19.000 So looking at it from... you know, doing this for multiple decades, this is a pretty interconnected network, if you think about it, from the lockdowns to the vaccine mandates to the unwillingness to even look at therapeutics.
00:20:33.000 And Dennis, you're exactly right.
00:20:34.000 I say this to our audience all the time.
00:20:36.000 I encourage everyone to go to the NIH website, NIH.gov, and just type in COVID.
00:20:40.000 What do you do if you get COVID?
00:20:42.000 And I want you to read what is written very carefully.
00:20:45.000 Don't skim it.
00:20:47.000 And it's basically, go home, and if it gets bad, go to the hospital.
00:20:51.000 That's right.
00:20:51.000 That's what I said.
00:20:52.000 And it's exactly.
00:20:53.000 And you know what?
00:20:54.000 There's a sentence that says, if you are unvaccinated, you should go get vaccinated.
00:20:59.000 It says that on the website as if we have nothing for you.
00:21:03.000 No, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquinqucertin, which is also potentially very helpful.
00:21:07.000 That's right.
00:21:09.000 Yeah, it's hard for me not to believe there isn't some malevolent intentions.
00:21:12.000 But what you're saying is that it's not the most relevant question.
00:21:15.000 It's not relevant.
00:21:16.000 The amount of evil done by people who thought they were doing good, the people who spied for Stalin to give him the atom bomb, this mass murderer murdered more than Hitler did, these people, they thought they were advancing world peace.
00:21:38.000 That is why we can't make up our own moralities.
00:21:42.000 Do you know that NPR, this is to me one of the most important signposts of our time.
00:21:47.000 NPR had a woman who...
00:21:49.000 The case for looting.
00:21:51.000 Okay, that's right.
00:21:51.000 Yeah.
00:21:52.000 In defense of looting.
00:21:53.000 Yeah.
00:21:53.000 It was Hertzweil or Kurzweil.
00:21:56.000 Was that the woman's name?
00:21:57.000 It was a Hispanic girl who wrote the article, and it was a review.
00:22:00.000 It was a review.
00:22:01.000 It's a book?
00:22:02.000 It was an NPR book review of Kurtz Weil's book, The Case for Looting.
00:22:05.000 And it was this fawning.
00:22:07.000 Right, fawning.
00:22:08.000 Yes.
00:22:09.000 By the way, it's very interesting.
00:22:11.000 I have invited the author of the book onto my show.
00:22:15.000 The chances of that happening are less than winning the lottery twice.
00:22:22.000 You know why?
00:22:23.000 They don't debate.
00:22:25.000 This is a very important point for all of your followers to know.
00:22:30.000 Do you know that I've offered tens of thousands of dollars to any New York Times columnist on the left to debate me anywhere?
00:22:39.000 They can choose the moderator.
00:22:41.000 They could choose the venue.
00:22:42.000 They could give the money to charity.
00:22:44.000 We'll pay it to BLM if necessary.
00:22:47.000 They wouldn't do it.
00:22:48.000 They would not.
00:22:48.000 They wouldn't.
00:22:49.000 Tell me a black thinker with Tanahese Coates or Ibram X. Kendi debate Larry Elder.
00:22:56.000 It would end their career. 0.91
00:22:59.000 Their ignoramesis compared to Larry Elder on the race issue. 0.99
00:23:03.000 These buffoons who write columns at the New York Times, not everyone's a buffoon. 0.97
00:23:08.000 Brett Stevens was wrong on Trump, but is generally right, in my opinion. 0.83
00:23:15.000 And we're friends, and we've debated on the New York Times website.
00:23:19.000 But other than him, they don't debate.
00:23:25.000 We debate.
00:23:27.000 You would have anyone on your show.
00:23:29.000 I would have anyone on the left.
00:23:31.000 I had, what's his name?
00:23:33.000 The People's History.
00:23:35.000 Yeah, Howard Zinn.
00:23:35.000 I had Howard Zinn on before he died, which is a funny thing to say because you have anybody you have on, you have on before they die.
00:23:42.000 But nevertheless, I.
00:23:45.000 I had someone on, they were breathing.
00:23:47.000 Yes.
00:23:48.000 And he's as far left as you can get.
00:23:51.000 To his credit, he came on my show.
00:23:52.000 And I treated him respectfully.
00:23:54.000 And I got him to say what he really believes.
00:23:57.000 World War II was not a moral war.
00:23:59.000 He so hates America that even fighting Hitler and the fascist in Japan was not moral.
00:24:10.000 So there's a lot of things I want to touch on with you, and you have to go speak soon.
00:24:15.000 I want to ask about happiness.
00:24:17.000 Yes.
00:24:18.000 And you know, I've been texting back and forth with you.
00:24:20.000 Oh, by the way, did you want me to speak on happiness?
00:24:23.000 That's what I want you only to talk about today.
00:24:25.000 Oh, really?
00:24:25.000 How to lead a happy life.
00:24:27.000 Oh, that's fascinating.
00:24:28.000 Remember, we chatted about this.
00:24:29.000 Yes, we did.
00:24:30.000 And I wasn't sure about that.
00:24:33.000 So I will redo.
00:24:35.000 You could do whatever you want.
00:24:36.000 No, I know that.
00:24:37.000 No, no, no.
00:24:38.000 I care what you care.
00:24:39.000 So let me bounce this off you, which is funny to do on your show.
00:24:43.000 So I have two ideas.
00:24:45.000 I had two ideas, one macro, one micro.
00:24:47.000 The macro is eight arguments the left gives and what responses you need to know.
00:24:52.000 I think that's very helpful.
00:24:53.000 I think so too.
00:24:55.000 That's the thing.
00:24:56.000 Don't do that.
00:24:57.000 All right.
00:24:57.000 And the other one was, which is right up your alley as well, because you love the happiness talk.
00:25:01.000 And I'd love to give it.
00:25:03.000 It pains me.
00:25:04.000 But we're in a war now, and I have to acknowledge that.
00:25:08.000 The other one was, everything in life is a choice.
00:25:12.000 Most people do not know that.
00:25:15.000 I didn't know that till later in life.
00:25:17.000 Everything, whether you are happy is a choice.
00:25:23.000 Whether you are religious is a choice.
00:25:26.000 Whether you get married is a choice.
00:25:29.000 Whether you have children is a choice.
00:25:32.000 It is amazing that people don't think that way.
00:25:36.000 And when you do, whether you're courageous is a choice.
00:25:39.000 And the second part of it that you always say, which is equally as important, everything is a choice, know the price.
00:25:47.000 That, yeah, yeah.
00:25:48.000 You know what?
00:25:49.000 That made my day.
00:25:51.000 You really know me.
00:25:53.000 I'm very touched.
00:25:54.000 I really am.
00:25:55.000 I want you to know.
00:25:56.000 It gives me so much peace to know that I've affected a person like you, who now affects so many.
00:26:03.000 I mean it.
00:26:04.000 Thank you.
00:26:05.000 It means, well, it is a compliment to you, but it's really just a statement of the peace that I live with, knowing that I've touched people like you.
00:26:15.000 That's all I wanted to do in my life.
00:26:17.000 As you too, at a very early, look, we both started super early.
00:26:22.000 I started speaking at 21.
00:26:24.000 When did you start TPUSA?
00:26:26.000 18.
00:26:27.000 18.
00:26:27.000 Oh, you beat me.
00:26:29.000 No, no, it's just.
00:26:30.000 I didn't go to college, so I had a headache.
00:26:31.000 Oh, yeah, you're so right.
00:26:32.000 You were at Columbia.
00:26:33.000 That is so right.
00:26:34.000 Before you went to.
00:26:34.000 Which, by the way, you want to hear the joke about that.
00:26:36.000 No God, no wisdom.
00:26:37.000 Yeah, you got it.
00:26:38.000 Oh, my God.
00:26:39.000 I love it.
00:26:40.000 No God, no wisdom.
00:26:41.000 That was the revelation at Columbia.
00:26:43.000 So here's a joke about Columbia.
00:26:45.000 Not a joke.
00:26:46.000 It's a bad joke.
00:26:48.000 Columbia doesn't celebrate Columbus Day, but it's named after Columbus.
00:26:53.000 Why don't they drop their name?
00:26:55.000 I haven't heard this.
00:26:56.000 Isn't that important?
00:26:58.000 They're phonies.
00:26:59.000 Because they'll lose so much money if they change it.
00:27:01.000 What are they going to call it?
00:27:02.000 Indigenous university?
00:27:04.000 They'd have to redo all the branding.
00:27:06.000 What?
00:27:07.000 They'd have to redo all the branding.
00:27:08.000 Yes, exactly.
00:27:10.000 I went to Indigenous University.
00:27:12.000 Well, that's what they should.
00:27:13.000 Because they changed Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples' Day.
00:27:16.000 Why is it an Indigenous People's University?
00:27:18.000 That should be the new name of the Washington football team.
00:27:21.000 The Indigenous Peoples Football Team.
00:27:23.000 Yes.
00:27:25.000 Yes.
00:27:25.000 Don't start me on the ER.
00:27:28.000 I like the name Washington football.
00:27:30.000 I think they should keep it.
00:27:32.000 Do you know why I like it?
00:27:33.000 It's an open-air mockery to political correctivity. 1.00
00:27:37.000 It's so stupid. 1.00
00:27:38.000 Stupid. 1.00
00:27:39.000 And everyone knows. 1.00
00:27:40.000 The commentators know it's stupid. 1.00
00:27:43.000 Everyone knows it's dumb, and they know that this is the price of. 1.00
00:27:47.000 Right. 0.99
00:27:48.000 Why did it get that name?
00:27:49.000 Because they took away its real name.
00:27:51.000 By the way, the Washington Post did a super duper intense survey of American Indians, of Native Americans.
00:27:58.000 Overwhelmingly, they said we couldn't care less.
00:28:00.000 80 to 90%.
00:28:01.000 Yes, that's the Washington Post, the leading voice against Redskins.
00:28:07.000 So I really do want to nail you down on happiness.
00:28:10.000 Yes, sir.
00:28:10.000 So I re-listen to the book.
00:28:12.000 When I can't read, I do audiobooks, which I think is, for some people, I actually learn better at times.
00:28:17.000 I love audiobooks.
00:28:18.000 And you narrated this audiobook, actually, if I'm not mistaken.
00:28:23.000 Oh, did I?
00:28:24.000 I don't know.
00:28:25.000 I don't remember.
00:28:26.000 I'm 95% sure.
00:28:27.000 Okay.
00:28:28.000 So it's called Happiness is a Serious Problem.
00:28:31.000 Right.
00:28:31.000 And the story of how you got to do it is hilarious.
00:28:34.000 You were invited to speak about it at UCLA.
00:28:37.000 Oh, isn't that a great story?
00:28:37.000 It's a great story.
00:28:38.000 And then the shysters in New York City who illegally, you know, maybe contrabanded your speech.
00:28:45.000 You know all of that.
00:28:45.000 That's right.
00:28:46.000 And then you wrote it.
00:28:48.000 It's a great story.
00:28:49.000 But you fell backwards into this topic of happiness, which is a unique topic, quite honestly.
00:28:54.000 It's not something.
00:28:55.000 Well, I take credit for this.
00:28:58.000 I have made happiness what it should be, a moral obligation, not an emotional state.
00:29:06.000 It's a moral issue, happiness.
00:29:09.000 The founders were right.
00:29:10.000 Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the pursuit of happiness is noble.
00:29:14.000 Noble.
00:29:16.000 Happy people make the world better.
00:29:18.000 Unhappy people make it worse.
00:29:19.000 I say that every week on my radio show on the happiness hour.
00:29:24.000 And by the way, that is totally tied into the left.
00:29:27.000 And this I mean literally, I never exaggerate.
00:29:30.000 I don't believe there is a happy leftist.
00:29:32.000 I know that there are happy liberals.
00:29:34.000 There are happy conservatives, unhappy liberals, and unhappy conservatives.
00:29:38.000 There are no happy leftists.
00:29:40.000 If you're unhappy, the left is your home.
00:29:44.000 There are students listening to this, young people, and they look around.
00:29:48.000 It's the most miserable generation in American history by every metric, most oppressed, most suicidal, most drug addicted.
00:29:55.000 And some of them say, well, Charlie, what do I have to be happy about?
00:29:58.000 What's your approach to that?
00:30:00.000 Well, happiness begins with gratitude.
00:30:02.000 And if you can't answer, what do you have to be grateful about?
00:30:05.000 That is a very big problem.
00:30:07.000 Are you grateful for your health?
00:30:08.000 Are you grateful for your family?
00:30:10.000 Are you grateful for whatever liberty is left in America in what was the freest country in the world's history?
00:30:17.000 Are you grateful for the fact that you are able to choose a profession and not have one imposed upon you?
00:30:25.000 It's a very sad state if you don't know what you're grateful for.
00:30:31.000 There are people who have terrible suffering who walk around as grateful human beings.
00:30:36.000 By the way, in that regard, I do believe that when you go to college, you get an undergraduate degree or a graduate degree first and foremost in ingratitude.
00:30:50.000 I now say, in addition to ingratitude, what is your BA in?
00:30:55.000 That's what I ask young people.
00:30:57.000 You're told to be ungrateful.
00:30:59.000 Yes.
00:30:59.000 And you can't be happy if you're an ingrate.
00:31:02.000 In fact, you're an SOB. 1.00
00:31:05.000 You're pretty much a scumbag if you're an ingrate. 1.00
00:31:09.000 And that's what the left produces. 1.00
00:31:11.000 If you're a black, you should be an ingrate. 1.00
00:31:13.000 If you're a woman, you should be an ingrate. 1.00
00:31:15.000 If you are anything but a white, heterosexual Christian male, cisgender, I might add, then you have nothing to be grateful for. 1.00
00:31:23.000 That is sick. 0.98
00:31:26.000 And it's not circumstances that need to determine your happiness.
00:31:30.000 That's one of the takeaways of that.
00:31:31.000 You determine your happiness, not your circumstances.
00:31:35.000 That's exactly right.
00:31:37.000 And if you can't start acting happy, because I'm a behaviorist, if you act X, you'll feel X.
00:31:46.000 And at first, for some people, it might take effort.
00:31:50.000 Of course, it takes effort.
00:31:51.000 What good in life doesn't take effort?
00:31:54.000 This is the appeal of the left.
00:31:56.000 You don't have to do anything.
00:31:57.000 Just vote for us and we'll give you everything.
00:32:00.000 People don't want to make an effort.
00:32:02.000 As I've pointed out frequently, people don't want to be free.
00:32:05.000 They want to be taken care of.
00:32:08.000 That was one of the unfortunate lessons of the lockdown.
00:32:10.000 That is exactly right.
00:32:12.000 Yeah.
00:32:13.000 Dennis, you're a student of Soviet history.
00:32:16.000 I am.
00:32:18.000 That was my feel.
00:32:19.000 You made a statement that the Soviet Union was freer than Australia is today. 0.56
00:32:27.000 In certain ways, clearly not in all ways.
00:32:29.000 And I said in certain ways.
00:32:31.000 For example, you couldn't leave the Soviet Union without permission.
00:32:37.000 Same was true in Australia.
00:32:40.000 But you could travel within the Soviet Union basically where you wanted.
00:32:45.000 You wanted to visit your mother in Siberia when you took the Trans-Siberian Railroad or your flu Aeroflop. 0.79
00:32:51.000 But that was not the case in Australia.
00:32:53.000 You could leave your house.
00:32:55.000 Australia, there was a period you couldn't leave your house.
00:33:00.000 As far as freedom of speech, how's this from New Zealand?
00:33:03.000 I play it on my show regularly.
00:33:05.000 The Prime Minister of New Zealand saying, if it doesn't come from the government, it is not true.
00:33:16.000 That was the Soviet position.
00:33:19.000 But they were never as brazen as the Prime Minister of New Zealand.
00:33:24.000 Isn't that amazing?
00:33:26.000 All truth comes from the government.
00:33:30.000 You would say it's Orwellian, but it's just beyond.
00:33:33.000 We have transcended Orwell.
00:33:34.000 Yes.
00:33:35.000 That is exactly right.
00:33:36.000 Men give birth as, that's Orwellian. 1.00
00:33:40.000 But all truth comes from the government as transcended it.
00:33:44.000 Or saying it's fair for a man, a biological man, saying that he's a woman, to compete against women in women's sports. 0.99
00:33:53.000 He's a cheat. 0.99
00:33:54.000 Period, end of issue. 1.00
00:33:56.000 I have nothing against his being transgender at all.
00:34:00.000 If that's his natural self or choice, it is not for me to judge.
00:34:06.000 I do judge him a cheat.
00:34:08.000 Leah Thomas is his name or her name, L-I-A Thomas.
00:34:12.000 She or he is a cheat. 1.00
00:34:15.000 If you can't say that, you are a coward. 0.99
00:34:20.000 How did we get to a place where we tolerate that? 1.00
00:34:22.000 People are cowards. 0.84
00:34:24.000 Let's talk about courage. 0.96
00:34:25.000 It's one of your favorite topics.
00:34:26.000 Yes, it is.
00:34:27.000 I've actually never talked to you about this.
00:34:28.000 Okay.
00:34:29.000 Well, it is.
00:34:30.000 It takes courage to stand out from the masses.
00:34:33.000 Okay?
00:34:34.000 It's very easy to say what the masses say.
00:34:39.000 It's easy to go along with the media.
00:34:41.000 It's easy to go along with your college, with your teachers, with your fellow students.
00:34:46.000 It's tough to stand alone.
00:34:48.000 It is tough.
00:34:49.000 There are massive rewards, but it's very tough.
00:34:52.000 So look, if courage were common, we wouldn't even have a word for it.
00:34:58.000 You said courage is a choice.
00:34:59.000 What do you mean by that?
00:35:00.000 Everything is a choice.
00:35:02.000 You know, when you become courageous, I've thought about this a lot.
00:35:06.000 Some people are born sort of courageous.
00:35:08.000 It's in my nature to fight.
00:35:10.000 And if you hate me, you hate me.
00:35:12.000 And I sleep well.
00:35:14.000 But most people, it's not in their nature.
00:35:17.000 So what do you do if it's not in your nature?
00:35:21.000 There's a very basic answer, like everything else.
00:35:25.000 The first thing to becoming courageous is to say, I want to be courageous.
00:35:30.000 If you say that, you will be.
00:35:32.000 People are what they want to be, as a general rule.
00:35:38.000 So I want to be happy.
00:35:41.000 You work on it.
00:35:42.000 You'll be happy.
00:35:43.000 The war literature teaches us that courage is very unique because it doesn't take a special skill or anything that you're necessarily born with.
00:35:52.000 Right.
00:35:53.000 Some are evil can evil, I assume.
00:35:56.000 Well, meaning that an individual, any individual, can be courageous.
00:36:00.000 That's correct.
00:36:01.000 It's not like saying I want to be the best basketball player in the NBA.
00:36:04.000 Right.
00:36:05.000 I have a friend who loves classical music like I do.
00:36:11.000 And at the age of 30 or 35, took up, he's now, I think, 45.
00:36:18.000 He took up piano.
00:36:21.000 He's not going to be a world-class virtuoso, but he'll be a wonderful pianist.
00:36:25.000 He is already because he put his mind to being it.
00:36:29.000 He doesn't have a natural gift like some of the giant pianists have.
00:36:37.000 That's how people should aspire to being really good at something, and that includes courage.
00:36:47.000 George S. Patton said that moral courage is the most necessary yet absent characteristic in men.
00:36:52.000 It really is the issue of the West.
00:36:54.000 Do you think that at this point, whereas we look at the West in general, the lockdowns taught us a lot about where we are?
00:37:03.000 What gives you hope?
00:37:04.000 What gives you optimism?
00:37:05.000 I'm not going to ask you whether or not you think we're going to win because it's completely irrelevant because both answers are bad.
00:37:10.000 But what gives you hope that you're seeing?
00:37:12.000 By the way, you know me so well that you're speaking shorthand because most people I know I have to preempt it.
00:37:18.000 That's right, but I'll have to explain it.
00:37:20.000 I'm asked all the time if I'm an optimist or pessimist, and I say both are useless because neither fights.
00:37:27.000 The optimist thinks things will turn out well, he doesn't fight.
00:37:30.000 The pessimist thinks things will turn out lousy, he doesn't fight.
00:37:34.000 So I'm neither pessimistic nor optimistic.
00:37:37.000 What gives me hope?
00:37:41.000 All the thousands of people that you've brought to this convention give me hope.
00:37:46.000 All the people, especially the young ones watching Prager U videos, those are obvious signs.
00:37:56.000 We remain, America remains the last best hope on earth.
00:38:01.000 There are bigger demonstrations for freedom in Europe.
00:38:05.000 We've had none, which is tragic.
00:38:08.000 But we have a much larger force fighting the left than anywhere on earth.
00:38:15.000 And it's getting better organized.
00:38:17.000 Yes.
00:38:17.000 It's getting better funded.
00:38:20.000 That's right.
00:38:20.000 And also getting more principled, I think, too.
00:38:23.000 Well, they're waking up.
00:38:24.000 Yes.
00:38:25.000 The day you realize how vicious the left is, how destructive, how chaos-loving it is, you can't just sit back.
00:38:36.000 So people want to deny.
00:38:37.000 That's what liberals do. 1.00
00:38:38.000 Liberalism has nothing in common with leftism except big government.
00:38:41.000 Every other value, they differ.
00:38:43.000 Liberals are against all black dormitories. 0.94
00:38:45.000 The left is for all black dormitories because the left is the only large-scale racism in the country. 0.97
00:38:53.000 But we are seeing an awakening and it's driving the left crazy. 0.96
00:39:03.000 We should have disappeared under the onslaught of the media and education.
00:39:08.000 That's so correct.
00:39:09.000 Especially this calendar year.
00:39:11.000 Yeah.
00:39:13.000 They're really annoyed that we're vibrant.
00:39:16.000 As much as Twitter will suppress us, we're still there.
00:39:22.000 And there's no left-wing analog to TPUSA or Prager U. None.
00:39:32.000 What would it be?
00:39:33.000 Let's hate the right convention?
00:39:37.000 What would it even be about?
00:39:39.000 I was with a wonderful man, Alain Lambert from Canada, who's done a pregnant UV. 1.00
00:39:44.000 That's a French name.
00:39:45.000 It is.
00:39:47.000 Or Alan Lambert, if you want to anglicize it.
00:39:51.000 And he was saying, I would love to be at an analogous convention of young leftists.
00:39:59.000 What would it be like?
00:40:00.000 Angry.
00:40:01.000 That's right.
00:40:01.000 That's what I said.
00:40:03.000 Angry and unhappy.
00:40:06.000 Happy conservative is almost redundant.
00:40:09.000 Unhappy leftist is almost redundant.
00:40:11.000 We're at our worst when we're unhappy, I believe.
00:40:13.000 I really.
00:40:13.000 It's true for everybody.
00:40:14.000 Yes.
00:40:15.000 No matter what.
00:40:16.000 Look at your family.
00:40:19.000 Do you feel more attached to your unhappy relatives or happy relatives?
00:40:25.000 By the way, it's my argument on religion.
00:40:27.000 Happy religious people are the greatest argument for religion, and unhappy religious people are the greatest argument for atheism. 0.98
00:40:35.000 I tell unhappy religious people, stop being religious. 1.00
00:40:38.000 You're giving us a bad name. 0.79
00:40:40.000 And you might be happier.
00:40:41.000 I don't know.
00:40:42.000 But they're not taking their religion seriously or else they...
00:40:44.000 Well, that's another issue.
00:40:45.000 Yes.
00:40:46.000 So I want to ask you about a cultural story.
00:40:48.000 I meant to have you on.
00:40:48.000 Then you got COVID, and it really interests me because you're the only person that I think is equipped to talk about it.
00:40:55.000 I'm going to totally surprise you when I bring this up.
00:40:57.000 And it's a story that I've been obsessing about.
00:41:00.000 And it's a National Football League story of the former head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, John Gruden.
00:41:06.000 I don't know if you're following the story or not.
00:41:07.000 I didn't.
00:41:09.000 It'll really interest you.
00:41:10.000 So John Gruden signed a 10-year deal with the Las Vegas Raiders a couple of years ago.
00:41:14.000 He was an ESPN commentator.
00:41:16.000 He won a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
00:41:18.000 I'm not a big fan of him. 1.00
00:41:19.000 He's kind of a smart Alec jerk. 0.98
00:41:20.000 However, it came out to a total hit job from the National Football League Commissioner, Roger Goodell, some emails that this football coach sent nearly 10 to 12 years ago that they say claimed were racially insensitive. 0.99
00:41:34.000 Private emails.
00:41:36.000 Should private conversations that people have be judged by public?
00:41:41.000 Does it matter what you say in private?
00:41:44.000 Very little.
00:41:46.000 Very little.
00:41:47.000 That has to be off bounds.
00:41:50.000 I'm a Jew.
00:41:51.000 If somebody said to a friend, you know, I really don't like Jews and never said anything publicly like that and treated Jews fine, it's none of my business what his sentiments are.
00:42:05.000 I mean, I taught Jewish history at Brooklyn College.
00:42:09.000 I wrote the most widely used introduction to Judaism in English.
00:42:12.000 So I know a lot about this stuff.
00:42:15.000 So here's an interesting story for you.
00:42:17.000 I'll give you one.
00:42:20.000 There were anti-Semites among the handful of non-Jews in Europe who rescued Jews in the Holocaust were anti-Semites.
00:42:29.000 Most were, of course, not.
00:42:31.000 Why would they recognize that?
00:42:32.000 Okay, I totally understand it.
00:42:33.000 This is what they said. 0.59
00:42:35.000 We don't like Jews. 1.00
00:42:37.000 But extermination, that's evil. 0.99
00:42:40.000 So I don't care if you like Jews. 1.00
00:42:42.000 I'm a Jew. 0.98
00:42:43.000 I don't give a damn if you like Jews. 1.00
00:42:45.000 It means nothing to me.
00:42:46.000 I care how you treat me, and I care how you speak publicly.
00:42:51.000 Only the left cares what you say privately because they're totalitarian.
00:42:55.000 Mao cared what you said privately. 0.97
00:42:58.000 I truly don't give a damn what you think about Jews. 0.77
00:43:01.000 I only care how you treat them.
00:43:02.000 So let me tell you why the story gets more interesting.
00:43:04.000 So they fired John Gruden because of these emails, destroyed his career.
00:43:08.000 And one of the, and by the way, the emails were not insensitive.
00:43:11.000 It was a total mischaracterization.
00:43:13.000 Well, as soon as I hear insensitive, I know it took me.
00:43:15.000 But get this.
00:43:16.000 So they said he was transphobic and homophobic. 0.62
00:43:19.000 Now, he happened to coach one of the only openly gay football players.
00:43:26.000 So they went to every player that's ever played for him.
00:43:28.000 Right.
00:43:28.000 They said, what do you think of John Gruden?
00:43:30.000 Best coach I've ever had.
00:43:31.000 Was like a brother to me, father figure.
00:43:33.000 He's always there for me.
00:43:35.000 It didn't matter that he was actually wonderful to every single person.
00:43:38.000 Doesn't matter in the least.
00:43:40.000 That's correct.
00:43:41.000 I opposed same-sex marriage. 1.00
00:43:42.000 I thought that marriage should be defined as a male-female.
00:43:45.000 So I am attacked to this day by the LGBTQ activists. 1.00
00:43:49.000 The alphabet mafia, yes. 0.85
00:43:50.000 Of the alphabet mafia. 0.52
00:43:52.000 I didn't know that term, but yes.
00:43:53.000 You can use it.
00:43:55.000 Then why would a gay couple, and this is true, a gay couple has made me and my wife the godparents to their children, a married gay couple. 0.67
00:44:07.000 I think I know who it is.
00:44:08.000 I'm not going to say that.
00:44:09.000 Why would they do that?
00:44:11.000 Because they know how well I would treat their children and how well I treat their children now.
00:44:17.000 The fact that the left is so unsophisticated and hatred, they have such simpleton views of life.
00:44:26.000 So if you think that the traditional view, which Barack Obama held until...
00:44:32.000 Until he didn't.
00:44:33.000 Yes, right.
00:44:36.000 That marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman, and you have religious grounds for that, and you don't want to say my religion's been wrong for 4,000 years, 3,000 years, you're a hater.
00:44:48.000 But then how do you explain the fact that I had a married gay man on our board of directors at Get Gay at PragerU?
00:44:58.000 Isn't it matter how I treat gays and how I fight for gays?
00:45:03.000 Not whether or not I have a theological basis for defining marriage.
00:45:08.000 But this is too sophisticated for them.
00:45:11.000 There's a belief that if you even have the thought, then it will turn into action and that they need to police that thought, which you said is totalitarian.
00:45:18.000 Yes, it did lead into action.
00:45:20.000 I was for preserving the marital definition of male and female.
00:45:25.000 By the way, and my argument was legit.
00:45:28.000 The argument was gender doesn't matter. 1.00
00:45:32.000 And let's look at where we got with that argument.
00:45:35.000 Gender does matter. 1.00
00:45:36.000 The American Medical Association now says gender doesn't matter. 1.00
00:45:41.000 Don't put it even on a birth certificate.
00:45:44.000 I was right.
00:45:45.000 That's a very bad and dangerous argument for society to make that gender doesn't matter. 0.99
00:45:53.000 I couldn't agree more.
00:45:54.000 And I think the movement to try to destroy people's lives based on things that are said in private has turned people into totalitarians.
00:46:05.000 And people into snitches.
00:46:06.000 Yes.
00:46:07.000 And turning in your parents, which is where it's going next.
00:46:09.000 That's right.
00:46:10.000 Did they say anything racist at the family table?
00:46:13.000 That's what emotional social learning is all about.
00:46:15.000 Social emotional learning.
00:46:16.000 Yes, yes.
00:46:17.000 Yes.
00:46:19.000 So I do think that they were just giving me the plug because the schedule is going there.
00:46:23.000 So, well, we have to get you on stage.
00:46:27.000 We do indeed.
00:46:28.000 I look forward.
00:46:30.000 I think we're just about there.
00:46:32.000 Any other closing thoughts?
00:46:34.000 Well, this is at the risk of sounding self-advertising, which I never am, but nobody writes a Bible commentary to get wealthy.
00:46:43.000 Please read the Rational Bible, any of the volumes.
00:46:47.000 I promise it will change your life for the better.
00:46:50.000 It absolutely will.
00:46:51.000 And you check out PragerU.com.
00:46:53.000 Please, yes.
00:46:55.000 We every time I go, you should know this.
00:47:01.000 I'll end with this.
00:47:03.000 Every time I go to a fundraiser for PragerU, I say we're not the only ones doing wonderful work.
00:47:08.000 Just look at TPUSA.
00:47:10.000 And vice versa.
00:47:11.000 I know that.
00:47:12.000 God bless you, Dennis.
00:47:13.000 Thank you so much.
00:47:14.000 Thank you.
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