The Charlie Kirk Show - The Most Comprehensive Election Fraud Conversation You'll Hear Today

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00:00:31.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:33.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:35.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:38.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:42.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:43.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:44.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:52.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:01.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:05.000 Truth is so important to me.

00:01:07.000 Pursuing truth is a huge part of who I am and what I stand for.

00:01:10.000 When you look around at what's happening to our country, you can see why many people are experiencing real frustration with the news media along with feelings of uncertainty and a lack of hope for the future.

00:01:19.000 How can we know which news is true and where or in whom can we place our trust?

00:01:24.000 The only place I found unwavering truth and peace is in my faith in Jesus Christ.

00:01:29.000 If 2020 has beaten down your spirit, I'd like to recommend a book to you called Reflections on the Existence of God by best-selling author Richard Simmons III.

00:01:39.000 Reflections on the Existence of God is a collection of short essays that tackles the biggest question of all.

00:01:44.000 Does God exist?

00:01:47.000 This book is well researched and easy to read.

00:01:49.000 Former White House aide Wallace Henley says, I've taught apologetics for many years and have read every scholar mentioned in this book.

00:01:57.000 Of all the books on apologetics, Simmons is the best I have ever read.

00:02:01.000 If you want to challenge yourself to spiritual and intellectual growth, then be willing to ask yourself life's toughest questions.

00:02:08.000 I challenge you right now to get your copy of Reflections on the Existence of God by Richard Simmons III.

00:02:13.000 Go to reflectionscharlie.com.

00:02:16.000 That's reflectionscharlie.com.

00:02:22.000 You want to talk about one of the most important discussions that's going to happen in the entire country?

00:02:27.000 This is the panel.

00:02:28.000 This is the panel that we're not supposed to have this conversation.

00:02:32.000 The tech companies might just shut us off completely and totally.

00:02:37.000 But I can't think of three better panelists to talk about election fraud, voter fraud, what happened in early November.

00:02:46.000 We are unafraid to have these discussions and to name names and talk about exactly what happened in the Great Steal.

00:02:52.000 And so that's exactly what we're going to do.

00:02:54.000 So I want to introduce our panelists here.

00:02:57.000 The heroic Matt Brainerd from the Voter Integrity Project.

00:03:02.000 Matt stepped up after what happened in early November when we saw all these results, these irregularities come in in a way that quite honestly made all of us question the very way we elect our leaders.

00:03:18.000 Matt stepped up and he said, I'm going to start to do independent data analysis.

00:03:22.000 I'm going to start to call people to find out if they actually actually requested ballots.

00:03:26.000 He's done the very difficult work, and you probably saw him testify in front of Arizona in the Arizona House recently.

00:03:33.000 Richard Barris from the People's Pundit, probably one of the best data mines.

00:03:38.000 I call him hopefully the new Nate Silver because Nate Silver is awful.

00:03:43.000 And Richard Barris really has been amazing.

00:03:45.000 Kyle Becker, you probably see him quite a lot on Twitter.

00:03:49.000 Kyle Becker has been doing amazing work looking into Dominion voting systems amongst many other things.

00:03:57.000 So, we have an amazing panel here, and we're blessed to be here.

00:04:01.000 Okay, Kyle, let's start with you.

00:04:03.000 Was the election stolen?

00:04:05.000 Stolen?

00:04:07.000 I would say that there are several suspect characters in swing states around the country.

00:04:13.000 We've seen them ourselves on video in Fulton County.

00:04:16.000 We've seen numerous sworn witnesses come forward and testify exactly that it was stolen, that they prevented observers from seeing the shady business that is presumably going on behind closed doors.

00:04:28.000 And we saw that in Michigan.

00:04:30.000 So, we have to point the finger exactly at who is suspect, and that is all these local poll workers who we're not allowed to monitor in a supposedly free country.

00:04:40.000 And we need to have democratic accountability, more transparency.

00:04:44.000 And the fact that they're not giving us transparency should make us have all the red flags in the world that we, as citizens, have to go after them and really get to the bottom of this.

00:04:54.000 And our media is failing us.

00:04:56.000 So, as independents around the country, we need to really hold their feet to the fire.

00:05:01.000 And people need to be prosecuted in this country if they are any way involved in ballot manipulation or in trying to make sure that our president of the United States is no longer the leader of this free country.

00:05:18.000 And you look at what happened.

00:05:20.000 I mean, there's the Nevada Native Project where they were offering cash for ballots.

00:05:24.000 We have the whistleblower in Wisconsin who came out and she communicates to all of her developmentally disabled elderly patients via Zoom.

00:05:32.000 And all of them came out and they said people came into the nursing homes filling out ballots for Joe Biden.

00:05:38.000 I mean, she came out as a whistleblower, and no federal investigation into that, no investigation into that from the Wisconsin Attorney General's office that we know of.

00:05:47.000 The 1,774% increase in voter registration for 90-plus-year-olds in the midst of a pandemic.

00:05:55.000 We're supposed to believe this, that all of a sudden 90-plus-year-olds in Pennsylvania started saying, you know what?

00:06:01.000 Now I want to go register to vote for the first time in my life in the midst of a pandemic.

00:06:04.000 Who is registering them to vote?

00:06:06.000 Who is going to these centers and doing that?

00:06:08.000 And it almost makes it so obvious that this practice of ballot laundering was occurring.

00:06:13.000 Richard, can you talk about how there were county irregularities, how there were nationwide trends, and then it just so happens that there were a couple cities and areas that mattered that did not fit all those other trends?

00:06:28.000 Look at Iowa.

00:06:29.000 So, Iowa, we have pivot counties.

00:06:31.000 We call them pivot counties, swing counties, whatever you want to call them.

00:06:34.000 Iowa is the state with the largest number of pivot counties in the entire country, 31.

00:06:38.000 Represents about 26% of the total statewide vote.

00:06:42.000 And these are counties that voted for Barack Obama twice.

00:06:44.000 You could even go back to George W. Bush.

00:06:47.000 These counties go 60 years with predictive value.

00:06:50.000 Last four cycles, rolling cycles, some of them have 100% predictive value.

00:06:53.000 Joe Biden did not flip a single pivot county in Iowa, the state with the most pivot counties.

00:06:59.000 Juneau County, Wisconsin, 60-plus percent for Donald Trump.

00:07:03.000 Joe Biden won less than half of the number of counties that Barack Obama won, even though he lost millions of votes when he won reelection.

00:07:10.000 477.

00:07:12.000 So, this from a numbers point of view and from a history point of view, I'm an election model guy.

00:07:19.000 This is not, if you would have told me this a month before the election, I would have said this would have been a Trump landslide.

00:07:25.000 So, if you would have given me just these indicators, Rich, what if Joe Biden only won 477 counties?

00:07:32.000 What if Joe Biden didn't flip Woods County?

00:07:35.000 He couldn't in Ohio.

00:07:36.000 He couldn't flip Trumbull County in Ohio.

00:07:38.000 I tell you, he's done.

00:07:40.000 It's over.

00:07:41.000 Trump won this election in a landslide.

00:07:43.000 What if Donald Trump won 3% in Florida by 3% and increased his share in Miami-Dade to 45% in Broward County in the mid-30s?

00:07:54.000 I tell you this was a Trump landslide.

00:07:57.000 So we're talking about predictors that have been right all the time for years.

00:08:02.000 They're all wrong for the first time this cycle.

00:08:07.000 It's odd.

00:08:08.000 Can you also talk about how Trump did better, President Trump did better with blacks and Hispanics, but not in the certain counties of the areas that seem to be the swing areas? 0.95

00:08:19.000 So Nevada's a perfect example of that.

00:08:21.000 So if you believe the exit polls, and if you just look at where the votes come from, he won more than 40% of the Hispanic vote in that state. 0.83

00:08:29.000 He was at mid-40s in Clark County.

00:08:33.000 And yeah, Washoe lagged a little bit.

00:08:35.000 So that would be where critics would point to.

00:08:37.000 But any election cycle before this, they would tell you that that is the formula to win the state in Nevada.

00:08:43.000 If you want to take the silver state, keep it in the mid-40s in Clark County and win more than 40% of the Hispanic vote.

00:08:49.000 And you will win that as a Republican.

00:08:50.000 And yet he lost.

00:08:52.000 I mean, it's just odd.

00:08:53.000 So we get a lot of these first, this cycle that just really, you know, they're hard to explain.

00:08:58.000 They're hard to explain.

00:08:58.000 Well, there's one explanation.

00:09:00.000 So, Matt, so you started to do the difficult work and necessary work to look into, can we start to prove some of this?

00:09:10.000 And one video that I encourage all of you to find, it's probably censored, so it's hard to find, is when you were calling, your call center were calling people and you said, did you request an absentee ballot?

00:09:21.000 And they said, no, I did not.

00:09:23.000 And yet it showed on the public record in Arizona they did.

00:09:26.000 Can you talk about some of the work you did and some of the discoveries that you have made in the last couple of weeks?

00:09:32.000 So we really focused on trying to provide stuff that would be actionable to a state legislature or a court of laws, concrete things, nothing that was speculative.

00:09:32.000 Sure.

00:09:42.000 And we found over and over again consistent problems in state after state after state, specifically cases where people were telling us that, you know, we would just take a sample of voter universe and just ask, hey, did you actually cast a ballot?

00:09:57.000 And we'd have people telling us over and over again, I didn't cast a ballot, even though the state said they did.

00:10:02.000 My favorite case of this was a gentleman we didn't even reach directly via phone.

00:10:07.000 We left him a voice message, and then somebody messaged me and said, hey, your project's on the Laura Ingram show on Fox News.

00:10:12.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:10:14.000 Because this was when we're still at the very earliest stage.

00:10:17.000 Well, we had left this gentleman a voice message.

00:10:19.000 His name is Nashon Garrett in Arizona.

00:10:21.000 He hasn't been in Arizona for several years.

00:10:23.000 But he got a voice message from us saying, hey, the city of Arizona says you cast a ballot.

00:10:29.000 You may be the victim of voter fraud if you did not.

00:10:32.000 He did not.

00:10:33.000 He looked up his own record on his own, and he found that the state of Arizona did not just have him marked as voting, but had him marked his signature verified as casting a ballot.

00:10:44.000 And he tweeted about it and somebody picked it up.

00:10:46.000 He ended up on Laura Ingram's program.

00:10:48.000 I'm very proud of that.

00:10:50.000 But here's what puzzles me is that all these anomalies we found, we found people who've moved out of state shopping where they want to cast their ballot.

00:10:59.000 And, you know, and I've had many anecdotal evidence because it's very funny since as this project's become a little bit more notorious, people start emailing me evidence, you know, on their own anecdotal, you know, reporting on their family members they don't like very much, saying, hey, I think this person voted twice.

00:11:15.000 This is my sister-in-law.

00:11:18.000 So you can do something about it.

00:11:19.000 Just don't use my name, okay?

00:11:20.000 Seriously, it's overwhelming.

00:11:22.000 But the most common thing I'm getting are people saying, hey, this person has lived in New York City for the last eight years.

00:11:28.000 They proudly told everyone in the office they cast a ballot in Georgia.

00:11:33.000 And we found tremendous evidence of this, far more than the margin of victory in that state.

00:11:38.000 And if you think about what's happening here is that we all, are we fans of the Electoral College in this room?

00:11:47.000 We know the other side is not.

00:11:48.000 They want to get rid of it.

00:11:49.000 One way they get rid of it is letting people vote wherever the hell they feel like it.

00:11:54.000 Because that is, they are neutralizing the electoral college.

00:11:58.000 And remember, we know what the great compromise was in this country between the House and the Senate, the large states, the small states.

00:12:05.000 Without that, there would not have been a United States.

00:12:07.000 The agreement that every state got two senators, but the House was based on population, that negotiation.

00:12:13.000 Well, when you have people voting in the state of choice, they're also neutralizing that as well, because you have people who don't live in Georgia or casting ballots in the Senate, as is happening right now in the runoff.

00:12:24.000 So, what's so troubling is that we find these dynamite examples, massive amounts of data, but the people who have the ability to really do something about it, which are in many cases Republicans in these state legislatures, state government, hands off.

00:12:39.000 Like, why can't we get an answer on what happened?

00:12:42.000 How did Neshawn Garrett get marked?

00:12:44.000 It's not a common name, and there's no like guy with the same name or same birthday.

00:12:48.000 No, it's his voter registration from when he lived there a few years ago before he went to become an all-star wrestler in Tennessee or something.

00:12:56.000 Why hasn't the government in Arizona figure out?

00:12:58.000 Wait, how did this happen?

00:12:59.000 Just this one case, just this one guy, let's just figure out what nothing, absolutely nothing.

00:13:04.000 Not even the Arizona Attorney General who's a Republican or the Arizona governor's office, no one.

00:13:10.000 Here's the problem: many of these guys came out very early and said there were no problems.

00:13:16.000 They said there was no evidence.

00:13:18.000 Now, how can you determine that there's no evidence of voter regularities, voter fraud, illegal ballots, whatever you want to call it, if you didn't go out and look for it?

00:13:26.000 And if you, if you came out and said that there were no problems, and then problems are discovered on your watch, what do you think that does to your, what matters more to these people than anything, their political career?

00:13:40.000 What do you think that does to their political career when they say, oh, everything was fine?

00:13:43.000 And then we start seeing these problems.

00:13:46.000 I want to share with you, if I can share with you, I've talked to many state legislatures publicly and also privately.

00:13:52.000 I've had groups of legislators from at least six states come and talk to me directly about some of the stuff we found.

00:13:57.000 And one of the conversations I had with one group, I'm not going to say who it was, but they said to me, So, if we determined that there are more illegal ballots than the margin of victory, what would you suggest we do?

00:14:11.000 And I said, Well, you have to withhold your electors, right?

00:14:15.000 Because you have no confidence in who is the deserved winner of your state.

00:14:18.000 You have to withhold your electors.

00:14:19.000 And they're like, Oh, okay, okay, that seems reasonable.

00:14:21.000 But I wasn't finished.

00:14:22.000 So, also, everybody in state government has to resign, all the elected officials, because you did this.

00:14:28.000 This is on you.

00:14:31.000 Your mismanagement disenfranchised an entire state.

00:14:33.000 This is historic.

00:14:35.000 So, because of that, everybody in the state government has to resign.

00:14:38.000 You all have to resign if you withhold them because it was your fault.

00:14:41.000 And they were like, Oh, no, no, no, you can't.

00:14:43.000 Please don't say that.

00:14:45.000 Don't say that.

00:14:46.000 And they were, it terrified them that that would be the next logical step.

00:14:50.000 If you're the Secretary of State in one of these states where this happened and there's truly evidence of fraud, you're done.

00:14:59.000 But what they're not realizing, I don't think they thought this through, is that if they didn't stand up and fight for it, you're going to hold them accountable in their primaries.

00:15:07.000 These Secretary of States, they thought by saying there's no problem, we'd save their political careers.

00:15:12.000 But by saying there's no problem and not taking this fraud seriously, they finished their political careers, and it's up to you to make sure that happens.

00:15:21.000 And so we're talking about, and by the way, we're talking about very slim margins here currently.

00:15:27.000 Georgia margin is with Trump and Biden, 12,000.

00:15:32.000 Arizona's 10,000, right?

00:15:35.000 Wisconsin's 20,000.

00:15:36.000 Is that correct?

00:15:37.000 That's just about right.

00:15:39.000 And so we're talking about if all of a sudden you have the ballot laundering, the voter registration issues, signature verification issues, relaxation of standards, certain Trump County district ballots go missing, all this stuff starts to add up into what is called their margin.

00:15:55.000 And here's a very simple way that the media can ever explain it.

00:15:59.000 Who here knows someone or your parents that got ballots they didn't request?

00:16:03.000 Anyone got?

00:16:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:04.000 You're trying to tell me that half the room hands go up, that every single person who got ballots they didn't request didn't all of a sudden try to do something with that.

00:16:13.000 You want to go prove voter fraud?

00:16:15.000 Go look at Google search trends of how many people were looking into Google.

00:16:19.000 How do I sell a ballot in early October?

00:16:21.000 And then go look into like a week later, can I go to jail for selling a ballot?

00:16:27.000 Seriously.

00:16:28.000 And the media says, well, that's not evidence.

00:16:30.000 Okay, you're right.

00:16:31.000 That's probably not evidence that if I was the prosecutor, U.S. Attorney's Office, I probably couldn't use that.

00:16:36.000 That's enough evidence for me to say that there's voter fraud is real.

00:16:39.000 Okay, that's plenty of evidence to say that.

00:16:41.000 And that's just one, that's just one piece of it.

00:16:46.000 They cannot explain how President Trump did better in Chicago, Boston, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, and L.A.

00:16:53.000 He did better in the Rio Grande Valley.

00:16:55.000 He did better in Miami, Florida.

00:16:56.000 But you win Florida by 400,000 votes and you lose Georgia.

00:17:03.000 You win North Carolina by 110,000 votes and you lose Georgia.

00:17:08.000 And Georgia is a very interesting example because it's almost all because of weak Republicans that did the civil settlement with Stacey Abrams on the signature verification front.

00:17:20.000 And this is a very important point: they made voter fraud probably legal.

00:17:25.000 I know that sounds weird.

00:17:27.000 You're like, what do you mean, voter fraud legal?

00:17:29.000 They changed the rules of signature verification so you could just randomly scribble and that's the new rule.

00:17:37.000 And so it's impossible to actually tell if that person actually voted or not.

00:17:40.000 There's a Georgia state senator, I can't remember his name, really great guy.

00:17:44.000 He tweeted this out recently in late November.

00:17:47.000 He was voting in this runoff and he decided to test the signature kind of integrity of the Georgia system.

00:17:55.000 And so he has his driver's license, which is how they're supposed to check signatures and what his signature looks like.

00:18:01.000 And then he has what he submitted, and they're completely different.

00:18:04.000 And it submitted his ballot totally.

00:18:07.000 It submitted his ballot.

00:18:08.000 And no one can tell me that when you have this much hatred towards Donald Trump, they've told us they will do whatever is necessary.

00:18:18.000 And I say this, and it's a provocative thing to say, but it's true.

00:18:21.000 If I believed Benito Mussolini was in the White House, I would cheat.

00:18:25.000 I would.

00:18:26.000 If I actually thought that Joseph Stalin was running our country, then I would cut corners.

00:18:31.000 That's what they think. 1.00

00:18:32.000 They're idiots for thinking that. 0.99

00:18:34.000 But the point is that when they've convinced themselves that they're actually going up against the manifestation of the National Socialist Workers' Party in the 1930s, then all this stuff starts to make sense. 1.00

00:18:47.000 And then it gets into the vote counting process, Kyle.

00:18:49.000 What is Dominion voting systems and who owns Dominion?

00:18:54.000 Well, John Paul has said started Dominion in Toronto.

00:18:59.000 It was a foreign-based company, and then it was purchased by Staple Street investors in New York City.

00:19:03.000 So it has its roots in Canada, and it has been involved in shady business all over around the world.

00:19:10.000 It has purchased scandal-ridden companies like Sequoia, which was a smart subsidiary.

00:19:18.000 It purchased Diebold, which was a subsidiary of Premier.

00:19:22.000 If you look at these companies, they have been under the gun for involved in scandalous elections and fraudulent elections around the world.

00:19:31.000 So Dominion voting systems is like, I liken it to like a Trojan horse.

00:19:35.000 While we were sleeping, we wheeled them into our precincts in our counties.

00:19:39.000 Georgia tried to fight them for this $106 million contract.

00:19:43.000 And if you look at the lawsuit, it points out, you know, the experts that they brought in and said how vulnerable to fraud Dominion voting systems is.

00:19:53.000 We had experts at Princeton, like Dr. Andrew Appell.

00:19:57.000 We've had Jonathan Alderman at University of Michigan.

00:20:00.000 We've had white hat hackers like Harry Hursty.

00:20:02.000 If you go look at Kill Chain and HBO, Harry Hursty comes out and shows you at the DEF CON conference that these machines are not trustworthy whatsoever.

00:20:11.000 So let's go to Georgia because I think Georgia is one of my favorite places to look at because we have the state vote farm arena video that shows these workers.

00:20:19.000 They come in, they send people home.

00:20:21.000 We have ABC News corroborating this.

00:20:23.000 Okay.

00:20:24.000 We've had Georgia state senators corroborating this.

00:20:27.000 They were sent home and even the supposed fact check corroborates the main complaints.

00:20:32.000 They were sent home that ballots were counted without supervision.

00:20:35.000 And so what, so what do we see on the time-stamped closed caption TV video?

00:20:40.000 I mean, you can't make this up.

00:20:41.000 It's almost hilarious because they don't know they're on CCTV.

00:20:44.000 Apparently, it's like candy camera.

00:20:45.000 So it's time-stamped.

00:20:46.000 They go take the ballots.

00:20:48.000 They run them to the tabulators.

00:20:50.000 They come back.

00:20:51.000 They check the computer screen.

00:20:52.000 Okay, boop, boop.

00:20:54.000 Go back, grab the stack, pick it out, put it back, count it like two or three different times.

00:21:00.000 Okay.

00:21:01.000 And if you look at the data from Fulton County, it shows not only a huge spike for Biden that did not make any sense, but his separation from Osoft too.

00:21:10.000 So like it doesn't seem it's just Biden.

00:21:13.000 Wow, that's amazing.

00:21:14.000 Just at the time where these people were sent home, there's a huge spike for Biden and Osoft is just kind of on the same level.

00:21:21.000 Okay, so this was supposedly debunked.

00:21:24.000 It's not, it was pre-bunked even.

00:21:26.000 Like it was like, oh, you know, remember the state senate hearing in Georgia.

00:21:29.000 Oh, well, that's been debunked.

00:21:30.000 No, this is the first time you're seeing it, lady. 0.96

00:21:31.000 Okay, all right, I'll try to catch it. 0.98

00:21:33.000 You know, so, I mean, it's like, we're dealing with ridiculous people. 0.85

00:21:36.000 They do not, just because they're an official does not mean they deserve any of our official respect. 0.96

00:21:41.000 We're their bosses.

00:21:42.000 We demand accountability and transparency.

00:21:44.000 No private companies involved in our elections.

00:21:47.000 The left needs to get on board with this because they were screaming bloody murder before the 2020 election, right?

00:21:53.000 If you go look at Politico magazine, if you go look at Bloomberg Opinion, if you look at PBS, you look at HBO, they were screaming bloody murder about private companies involved in our elections.

00:22:04.000 We're the American people here.

00:22:05.000 These people need to get in line. 0.97

00:22:07.000 We're their boss and we want these voting machines out of here. 1.00

00:22:10.000 Get them out of here.

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00:23:41.000 So, Richard, can you go through just looking at what really started a lot of this conversation, quite honestly, around voter fraud?

00:23:48.000 And we were covering this from the night after the election, just because there was so much interest in people knew they were being lied to by people on television.

00:23:59.000 They knew it.

00:24:00.000 And they said, who's actually going to dive into this?

00:24:02.000 And we started to look at the irregularities.

00:24:04.000 We started to look not just the irregularities, but also how there were nationwide trends that made no sense.

00:24:11.000 We won 27 out of 27 competitive House seats.

00:24:14.000 Can you talk about how Republicans had a red wave everywhere, except in a couple places?

00:24:22.000 Yeah, so this is the odd thing.

00:24:24.000 I mean, there's a number of predictions, you know, a number of predictive counties that we'll look at on election day.

00:24:29.000 Soon as those results roll in, I look to Indiana, Indiana, and Kentucky.

00:24:33.000 They'll come in first.

00:24:34.000 Vigo County will tell you immediately if you have a problem. 0.98

00:24:38.000 It'll tell you immediately if you have a problem with a white woman voter.

00:24:41.000 Donald Trump won Vigo County after Barack Obama did twice.

00:24:45.000 Barack Obama carried it by a few points that last time, but he still held it.

00:24:48.000 Donald Trump won it in 2016 by 15 points.

00:24:51.000 In 2020, he won it by 15 points.

00:24:55.000 Okay, so this is really across the board.

00:24:58.000 19 out of 20, I could just keep rolling him out.

00:25:01.000 In Ohio, which we spoke about before, Joe Biden only performed marginally better than Hillary Clinton in five of those 31 pivot counties, and that's less than a few points.

00:25:12.000 I'm not talking about six-point swings, seven-point swings.

00:25:15.000 I'm talking about 0.8, 1.2.

00:25:19.000 You know, so not these huge margins that would tell you Donald Trump has a problem.

00:25:24.000 And if you even go out west, Republicans did much better with certain groups of voters.

00:25:30.000 Mike Garcia held his seat a couple hundred votes, but he held it. 0.92

00:25:33.000 Kim Young, who had it robbed from her last time, I fully robbed. 1.00

00:25:38.000 She was the have you ever seen a congressional candidate be declared the winner, go to Washington, D.C., get sworn in as a freshman congresswoman, and then get sent home? 0.99

00:25:49.000 Imagine being young Kim.

00:25:51.000 So she came back this time and she took that seat.

00:25:54.000 And we see this in a lot of different areas.

00:25:56.000 Salazar, Florida 27. 0.97

00:25:58.000 She defeated Donna Shalala.

00:26:00.000 These are seats, if you go back, if you go back and you look at, you know, like, I'll leave it out.

00:26:08.000 I'll keep these guys' names out of it.

00:26:09.000 But you go back and look at those other election models, which are not my silver.

00:26:14.000 They're glorified poll readers.

00:26:16.000 They're frauds.

00:26:17.000 They're glorified poll readers. 0.83

00:26:17.000 All right. 0.83

00:26:19.000 You don't need them.

00:26:19.000 You could do it yourself.

00:26:21.000 If you can read a poll, you can be them.

00:26:23.000 You want me to tell you how Cook Political Report does it?

00:26:26.000 They take the PVI.

00:26:27.000 They'll look at the national generic ballot and they'll take that.

00:26:31.000 If, you know, Florida 27 is D plus 6 and the generic ballot is currently D plus 5.

00:26:38.000 Well, that's a likely Democrat seat.

00:26:40.000 I just taught you how to do their jobs.

00:26:40.000 That's it.

00:26:42.000 You don't need them.

00:26:43.000 So ignore them.

00:26:44.000 All right. 1.00

00:26:45.000 Because it's really, it's garbage. 1.00

00:26:47.000 All right. 0.97

00:26:51.000 And in the end, when we go down their list of likely leans and competitive, the House for Republicans looked a lot historically like an incumbent re-election. 0.97

00:27:03.000 An incumbent gets his butt kicked and his party gets his butt kicked in that first term incumbent midterm.

00:27:09.000 And then when they're re-elected, they come back and typically, historically, they will take back a lot of those gains, but likely not all of them. 0.98

00:27:16.000 And if they want to recapture their house, they'll have to do it in a subsequent election.

00:27:19.000 They'll fend off challenges from the upper chamber that they thought they were going to lose, like Maine.

00:27:24.000 All right.

00:27:25.000 Now, McSally was, I'm sure she's a very nice woman, but she is not a great candidate.

00:27:29.000 All right, so she lost and she lost to a very strong Democrat and the proof was in it was in the polling.

00:27:35.000 Everybody saw it coming.

00:27:37.000 But other challenges across the country, Republicans fend it all.

00:27:40.000 That's a very typical incumbent re-election.

00:27:44.000 That's what it looks like historically from any election forecaster's point of view.

00:27:49.000 And yet he lost.

00:27:50.000 So it's just all these things that just pile up, Charlie.

00:27:52.000 And we're not even supposed to talk about it.

00:27:55.000 Got to ignore them.

00:27:56.000 And so if Republicans lost dramatically in the House, if all these things happen, then this argument would kind of just fall apart.

00:28:04.000 Matt, I want you to talk about Pennsylvania and talk about Pennsylvania and the kind of the rust belt, the Pennsylvania in particular.

00:28:11.000 What was it about Pennsylvania?

00:28:13.000 What have you found in that state?

00:28:15.000 Because I believe that what happened in Philadelphia in particular was so suspicious.

00:28:19.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, Allegheny County just took a day off from counting, like the day after the election.

00:28:25.000 They just needed like a rest or a technical day.

00:28:29.000 Yes, Tom Wolf is terrible.

00:28:33.000 Can you help unpack that for us?

00:28:34.000 I mean, when the Attorney General of the state declares ahead of the election outcome, who's going to win it?

00:28:42.000 Yeah, Pennsylvania is a peculiar state for Republicans because for so many of our candidates going back in time, it's always kind of been our white whale.

00:28:50.000 You know, you saw Romney go hard, like, this is the year we can finally get Pennsylvania.

00:28:55.000 But we never really had a candidate that could unlock the, you could almost call them Reagan Democrats going way back, but this sort of the blue-collar, often victims of what is often considered contemporary Republican politics, you know, the Jack Kemp politics.

00:29:11.000 These are people often the victims of some of those policies, right?

00:29:14.000 And they don't cotton to the typical Mitt Romney's or Bob Dole candidacies, but they found something in Trump that they had never found in a Republican before.

00:29:22.000 And we were able to unlock the Keystone state historically.

00:29:26.000 And then you have this election come, and what do we find?

00:29:29.000 We find people who we identify as not living in that state casting ballots.

00:29:34.000 We find people who did not request absentee ballots, who told us in great numbers, substantial numbers.

00:29:40.000 And I'm not saying, well, we took a little sample and then you projected the whole universe and you get, you know, this many.

00:29:44.000 No, we found a substantial number well worthy of an investigation by the state because in fact in all these states and with the exception of Nevada, you have to make that request yourself or you have to basically do a formal thing to let somebody else request it on your behalf.

00:30:00.000 There's a lot of technical rules.

00:30:01.000 Those ballots are not supposed to be flying out there like snowflakes in a blizzard, right?

00:30:07.000 Like which is what was happening.

00:30:08.000 And we find this over and over again.

00:30:11.000 And there's just so just absolutely no interest in the national media in investigating it, in the state government.

00:30:19.000 Now, we were contacted by the FBI.

00:30:24.000 They said, look, we've seen what you find, send it to us.

00:30:26.000 And I've worked with them in the past.

00:30:27.000 It's always a one-way conversation.

00:30:29.000 You send it to them.

00:30:30.000 Maybe in a year or so, you hear about a prosecution or a conviction or something like that based on what you've done with them.

00:30:36.000 But I don't expect any, like, they're not calling me every day saying, hey, that's good stuff.

00:30:39.000 Yeah, we're going to lock this guy up.

00:30:40.000 This is just not how it's going to work.

00:30:42.000 But it's just, it's mind-boggling because I know this is a young audience, but in the year 2000 in Florida, when there were just a few hundred votes separating the winners in that election, the media spent a few million dollars, the conglomerate of them, to go down there on their own and did a manual hand recount, which reconfirmed that W had won that state.

00:31:04.000 But they spent a fortune on that.

00:31:06.000 You may remember when Sarah Palin's emails were hacked and leaked, entire teams from the New York Times and Washington Post and mainstream media were just signed to investigate and go through every single one of those, you know, all her little kids' appointments that she was driving them to that keeping track through email, right?

00:31:21.000 Now we have this, and what's the response?

00:31:25.000 Crickets.

00:31:26.000 And not only that, but they're coming after folks like this.

00:31:28.000 We're trying to keep you out of trouble here, Charlie, not saying anything too spicy up here.

00:31:32.000 But just by having this conversation, we put ourselves at risk.

00:31:35.000 And nobody, there's no illusions here about the mainstream media.

00:31:40.000 They're basically a PR firm for the left, for the hard left, right?

00:31:42.000 But none of them are going to come to our defense if we get zapped for this.

00:31:46.000 So it's just, it's really outside, it boggles the mind.

00:31:50.000 But here's what my biggest concern is.

00:31:53.000 I have a really big concern about this issue is that because if it's not likely results in our favor this election, my fear is that people will give up hope and think that my vote doesn't matter.

00:32:05.000 And you know, when I first started doing the voter integrity project, I actually had a hope.

00:32:09.000 I hoped that we would find that it was a clean election because I really wanted to, because there are other issues that we need to address.

00:32:15.000 I kind of saw the voter fraud issue as a potential tar baby because if we get locked into that, we can't, we miss another big problem, which is a voter registration problem.

00:32:25.000 There were illegal ballots that I think were determinative in this election, but as determinative, if not more, were the additional 100,000 just Democrats that were registered in the state of Pennsylvania over the past four years, more so than Republicans.

00:32:38.000 Every single one of these states, they were on the ground with billionaire money, registering.

00:32:42.000 In fact, in many cases, real people.

00:32:44.000 In many cases, turning out real people who had never voted before.

00:32:47.000 And we didn't have anything on our side to do that.

00:32:49.000 So I was fearful that if we get all tied up in this voter fraud thing, we won't pay attention to that.

00:32:54.000 So my hope is that we would find a clean election.

00:32:56.000 Unfortunately, we didn't.

00:32:57.000 But the other thing is, when I started, I was like, hey, if you're a Joe Biden fan, you believe in him?

00:33:01.000 You should be rooting for our project because we potentially could come out here and say, hey, it was good.

00:33:06.000 We lost fair and square.

00:33:07.000 We need to go back to the drawing board and take a hard lesson on this.

00:33:10.000 You'd be rooting for it, right?

00:33:11.000 But they were absolutely silent.

00:33:12.000 And here's what's so nefarious: it's rational to believe that the idea of widespread voter fraud is helpful to the left.

00:33:22.000 It's helpful to them, not only in that it's helpful because it may help them win elections, but it's helpful to them in the long term because what it does is they think that it will demoralize folks.

00:33:31.000 How many of you people have heard people say that, you know, if they don't get this thing turned around, I'm never voting again?

00:33:37.000 You hear it constantly.

00:33:39.000 So remember, they actually want this to spread too because they believe the idea of voter fraud will demoralize our people and turn them off from voting, which makes winning for them even easier in the future.

00:33:51.000 So that is why this issue is so cancerous and why we've got to do everything we can to fight it to turn it around, but not lose hope and to maintain the faith.

00:34:00.000 That's well said.

00:34:03.000 So, Richard, do you want to talk about how there's a personal cost to speaking out against this?

00:34:09.000 Yeah, there is.

00:34:11.000 Matt is 100% right.

00:34:12.000 And actually, just to top off what he just said, we see that in the polling in Georgia right now.

00:34:18.000 There is a group of Republicans, coastal central region of the state.

00:34:23.000 They are mad.

00:34:24.000 And, you know, you could cut off your nose to spite your face is really where you can't focus all so much on the down and then lose hope and then lose an election that you might have been able to win.

00:34:34.000 But yeah, there is a personal cost of this.

00:34:34.000 All right.

00:34:36.000 I had maybe 40,000 followers.

00:34:38.000 We did inside the numbers.

00:34:40.000 I taught people on the show how to poll.

00:34:42.000 We would do waiting live.

00:34:44.000 We would watch the live results roll in before the election.

00:34:47.000 That was the show that we did.

00:34:49.000 Nothing controversial, even though that does kind of threaten certain people that don't release much data and just kind of give you a headline number.

00:34:57.000 And then the fraud puts it up on the big board.

00:34:59.000 And we forecast elections like that.

00:35:02.000 But when we did start to look into voter fraud, like Matt, I saw all of these records on Twitter.

00:35:08.000 People thought they were finding.

00:35:09.000 And I thought to myself, you know what?

00:35:10.000 I have access to the voter files.

00:35:12.000 I could simply just open them up.

00:35:13.000 That specific case was in Michigan.

00:35:15.000 Let me pull a small subset of change of address flags, which is what Matt was just referring to.

00:35:20.000 These are people, they no longer live in the state.

00:35:22.000 The voter files are dirty. 0.96

00:35:24.000 They're dead people.

00:35:25.000 There, people who no longer live there because you know, when mom and dad die or grandma and grandpa die, you don't, you go, you grieve.

00:35:32.000 You get the funeral set up, you hold a service, and then you need time for yourself to heal.

00:35:37.000 What you don't do is call the local supervisor of elections and say, Mom, dad, grandma, and grandpa passed away, please take them off the voter rolls, right?

00:35:44.000 Who does that?

00:35:45.000 When you move to another state, maybe you got to close on a house, you get a 26-voter, you hire the movie men, it's crazy, you deal with it, and you enjoy your house.

00:35:53.000 What you don't do is call your old state and say, I now move from Florida to North Carolina, please take me off the voter rolls.

00:35:59.000 That doesn't happen.

00:36:00.000 So, the state rolls are dirty and they take a long time.

00:36:03.000 You can actually target them if you're a pollster like me, which we do.

00:36:08.000 So, I did in Michigan once my follower count started to grow because of what we were finding, and I got zapped-boom, just taken right off Twitter an hour after speaking a PolitiFact and telling PolitiFact, no, they cannot have my data, which is what they wanted.

00:36:25.000 And I was gone just like that.

00:36:27.000 Never a warning, never suspension, never a challenge suite.

00:36:30.000 Nobody ever reported me for anything.

00:36:32.000 I was gone, my polling firm was gone, and my wife was gone, just like that.

00:36:37.000 Just her Twitter account, right?

00:36:39.000 Just the Twitters.

00:36:40.000 Yep, we're all still here.

00:36:44.000 I would never, I'm on back on Twitter now, but I never would have been if you know what?

00:36:48.000 I gotta hat tip him.

00:36:49.000 If Tucker Carlson didn't call me and have him have me on the show, I wouldn't even be back.

00:36:54.000 Wouldn't even be back.

00:36:59.000 That's 100% true, and I got to hat tip them for that because I'd still be off right now. 1.00

00:37:04.000 But they still didn't let my wife back on. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Why she handles the media requests?

00:37:09.000 If somebody calls and says, I want to have Rich on and talk about what he's finding in Michigan with voter fraud, they got to talk to my wife. 1.00

00:37:16.000 So they can't have her back on because DMs is really how she did it.

00:37:20.000 So if you're a little nerd from Twitter and you want to go through somebody's messages and see what they're saying, you would see Laura's a pretty important person.

00:37:27.000 So they kept her off.

00:37:28.000 But they couldn't handle the business and they put the business back up.

00:37:31.000 But there is a personal cost to this, and you're not allowed to talk about this.

00:37:36.000 There's even a professional cost.

00:37:38.000 So we deal with a lot of people in the media.

00:37:40.000 I may not agree with them, but I respect them.

00:37:42.000 We report results together.

00:37:43.000 We put up the cool interactive visual graphics so you guys can see faster than the AP, by the way, how the elections are rolling in on our website.

00:37:52.000 And those guys do not want you to talk about this.

00:37:56.000 They don't.

00:37:57.000 They want you to shut up.

00:37:58.000 In fact, my email is filled with them.

00:38:01.000 So, you know, there's a few people who are willing to do it.

00:38:03.000 And yeah, so it is worth noting.

00:38:05.000 And look, and if we're honest about the history of our country, voter fraud has been around for quite some time.

00:38:10.000 Lyndon Baines Johnson would not have been a United States Senator if it wasn't for Joan Wells County and Ballot Box 13 and Duval County.

00:38:18.000 Same with JFK in 1960.

00:38:21.000 And we're talking about very thin margins, especially in Georgia and Arizona.

00:38:25.000 So Kyle, how did we get here?

00:38:26.000 How did we get to the place where all of a sudden all of our voting rules were changed?

00:38:31.000 We have all these machines coming in.

00:38:33.000 Where did we go wrong?

00:38:34.000 What fight did we not pick?

00:38:36.000 Well, it all began when people began forgetting the basics of government that everybody here knows, and that's the legislature makes the laws and the government or the governor executes the laws, correct?

00:38:48.000 So is there something that I missed where this changed in 2020 for some unknown reason?

00:38:55.000 So here's the problem.

00:38:56.000 To paraphrase Edmund Burke, the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

00:39:01.000 Where were the Republican legislatures screaming bloody murder the second that governors decided they wanted to change the absentee ballot and mail-in rules, right?

00:39:12.000 So they should have screamed bloody murder from day one.

00:39:15.000 Okay, so when these mass mail-in ballots come in, there's research going back.

00:39:19.000 You can look at the Carter Center, MIT, Caltech, all of them telling you mass mail-in ballots are untrustworthy.

00:39:24.000 But what did we find in this election?

00:39:26.000 Okay, first of all, the margin is 0.06% in these swing states is what gave Biden the election.

00:39:38.000 In the main swing states, I put him over the top.

00:39:40.000 This is very, very improbable, right?

00:39:43.000 So what else do you see in these swing states?

00:39:46.000 The ballot rejection rates, going to everything that they're saying, especially in Pennsylvania and especially in Georgia, are enough to tip the election.

00:39:53.000 If you have a standard ballot rejection percentage, and Georgia was 0.6%, and in Pennsylvania, 0.28%, okay?

00:40:02.000 Total, total, not just the signature matching, in case anybody's fact-checking.

00:40:05.000 Okay.

00:40:06.000 This is a ballot of data.

00:40:07.000 All right.

00:40:08.000 So this is enough to tip the election in these two states.

00:40:12.000 And if you go to Nevada, the things that he's talking about in Clark County, very suspect things across the board, Arizona, you did not need widespread fraud.

00:40:21.000 This is the typical dishonest framing of the media.

00:40:26.000 They try to set the frame.

00:40:27.000 Oh, there has to be widespread.

00:40:28.000 This is not the litmus pass, people.

00:40:30.000 This is specific precincts and counties in the United States where we have witnesses with sworn affidavits putting their personal names and their faces and a stake in this game.

00:40:40.000 They have skin in the game.

00:40:41.000 These journalists have no skin in the game.

00:40:43.000 You know what these so-called journalists are doing?

00:40:46.000 We're having smoke in the room, right?

00:40:48.000 Everything, great stuff that Matt and Matt and Rich are pointing out.

00:40:50.000 Smoke everywhere.

00:40:51.000 They're saying, don't you dare ask if there's a fire.

00:40:54.000 Don't say if they're, no, There's no fire here.

00:40:58.000 Oh, and then the most secure election in American history.

00:41:01.000 Okay, Chris Krebs.

00:41:02.000 All right, great.

00:41:02.000 Great job with Oracle Solar Wins, by the way.

00:41:04.000 Stand up, job.

00:41:05.000 You're doing such a fantastic thing.

00:41:07.000 Only compromising our nuclear database, for God's sake.

00:41:10.000 And our election security is supposed to be top-notch, most secure election in American history.

00:41:15.000 Give me a break.

00:41:15.000 They didn't check a single machine.

00:41:17.000 They didn't check a missing flash drive like in Georgia.

00:41:20.000 They didn't check any of this stuff because these companies have been exposed completely.

00:41:25.000 100% exposed in the media.

00:41:27.000 The mainstream media exposed them. 1.00

00:41:29.000 Don't look at me, Holinico. 1.00

00:41:32.000 Don't look at me. 1.00

00:41:33.000 You reported it.

00:41:34.000 Did you not, Bloomberg?

00:41:36.000 So who is the credibility problem?

00:41:38.000 Is it me for pointing out your work before the election?

00:41:42.000 Or is it you for changing your narrative because you got the result that you wanted?

00:41:46.000 Right?

00:41:46.000 Is that what happened?

00:41:47.000 I think it's what happened.

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00:43:25.000 So, Matt, I want to ask you, what can now be done?

00:43:29.000 We're running up against deadlines.

00:43:30.000 Courts aren't hearing a lot of these cases.

00:43:32.000 The Supreme Court wants nothing to do with this.

00:43:34.000 We could go on and on and on about the evidence that we have.

00:43:38.000 I mean, just, for example, in California, there was a recent indictment of a guy that tried to fraudulently register 8,000 voters, 8,000 voters.

00:43:47.000 And he got arrested, got very little mainstream media coverage.

00:43:51.000 So, this idea that there's no evidence is the exact opposite.

00:43:54.000 There's an overwhelming amount of evidence.

00:43:56.000 And if the New York Times and Washington Post actually sent their investigative units into this, they would find so much evidence that I think it would tilt the election easily in Donald Trump's favor.

00:44:05.000 And that doesn't even count the signature verification, all that sort of stuff.

00:44:08.000 So, now what can be done?

00:44:09.000 Well, just to jump on what you just mentioned there, the data that I've developed here, for months, over a month and a half, I said if any journalists, any journalists want to come, I'm not going to, I can't put it out because much of what we have would end up quote-unquote doxing people.

00:44:26.000 We've been able to put up some of the stuff on Twitter, but if I put up stuff with names on it, I'm done.

00:44:32.000 But I've invited journalists to come, you know, sideset me.

00:44:35.000 I will show it to you.

00:44:36.000 And I will, you know, you can validate that this was done, how it was done, anything you want.

00:44:41.000 And I was able to do that until just about a week or so ago when one of the court, you know, the court cases expert witnesses kind of got a buckle down.

00:44:48.000 But the door will open for that again in about a week or so, I think.

00:44:52.000 With that offer to just come see what I've got.

00:44:55.000 Come see, because they're always interested when we were first starting this project.

00:44:58.000 They were very eager to write about, oh, these Trump guys are trying to do some stuff and they're not finding anything and just this big waste of time and money.

00:45:06.000 And they were, because we were at our, you know, this basically day two or day three, right?

00:45:09.000 Washington Post was eager to send a photographer to come take pictures of us.

00:45:13.000 A really good photographer, really good photos, expensive.

00:45:17.000 Many column inches, column inches everywhere.

00:45:19.000 But when we started finding stuff, nothing.

00:45:22.000 And, you know, I openly invited any journalist who wants to can come sit next to me and I can show them everything.

00:45:28.000 I'll show them the code, all this stuff.

00:45:30.000 I got basically three journalists that want to.

00:45:33.000 Epic Times, which is very cool.

00:45:36.000 We've got some fans in the house.

00:45:39.000 I got to tell you, I mean, they actually came at me with scrutiny.

00:45:44.000 The journalist is actually still emailing me on a daily basis saying, hey, you said here sounds different than what was over here, like coming out with scrutiny.

00:45:52.000 It's a legit news organization, right?

00:45:54.000 They're not giving me a free pass.

00:45:57.000 Also, some television reporter in Arizona, and we're working on getting him the access because it's hard when he's not sitting next to me.

00:46:03.000 I'm just very careful.

00:46:04.000 And Tim Poole.

00:46:06.000 Tim Poole, actually, some Tim Pool fans in the house.

00:46:09.000 Yeah.

00:46:09.000 Great.

00:46:10.000 Phenomenal guy.

00:46:11.000 Great show.

00:46:12.000 No one else had any interest.

00:46:13.000 But here's your question was: well, what can we do?

00:46:16.000 Well, it's really, well, what can you do, right?

00:46:21.000 Well, but how do you fight it?

00:46:23.000 I mean, it's not like we're going to do an insurrection here, right?

00:46:26.000 I mean, because, no, but here's what we can do.

00:46:29.000 That's how a lot of people.

00:46:30.000 But real, what can you do as an individual?

00:46:33.000 So assuming we're not going the insurrection route, which I strongly disagree, I would not say go down the insurrection route.

00:46:39.000 There are a couple of things that you could do on a policy basis locally.

00:46:42.000 So first of all, on your county and state level, you've got to insist on a couple of things.

00:46:47.000 First of all, you've got to have validation of absentee ballots.

00:46:50.000 Now, I advocate validation through fingerprint, which is machine-readable.

00:46:56.000 I've got a six-year-old cell phone that I use in my pocket.

00:46:59.000 It can read my fingerprint.

00:47:00.000 And it's like 99% certain it's me.

00:47:02.000 And honestly, if the one guy who is that 0.1% who also matches me gets it, you win.

00:47:07.000 You know, you got me. 0.88

00:47:08.000 You got me.

00:47:09.000 But fingerprint matching is machine readable.

00:47:12.000 It's something that can be validated.

00:47:14.000 And I think that sending out that, you know, I've, I mean, Concio Carrie, I don't, don't raise your hand.

00:47:18.000 Don't raise your hand.

00:47:19.000 If you've ever gotten a permit, the government has you do a fingerprint thing.

00:47:22.000 You have to do it sometimes through the mail, like Utah, right?

00:47:24.000 No big deal, right?

00:47:25.000 Just one fingerprint.

00:47:25.000 That's all it takes to validate it.

00:47:27.000 So validate absentee ballots.

00:47:28.000 It would eliminate, I guess, I would say, 90 to 95% of the illegal ballots.

00:47:33.000 The second thing is you've got to insist that your state do hygiene on their list, on their voter list.

00:47:39.000 They've got to run it up against NCOA, validate it.

00:47:42.000 They've got to do true rigor on that because there's so much dead wood on it, and that deadwood creates a space not just for voter fraud, illegal ballots, but for the suspicion of it, which is just as dangerous.

00:47:54.000 The third thing you've got to do is, and this is great because a few years ago, the left was very excited about this idea, but now it's kind of quiet.

00:48:03.000 You must have open source and everything electronic related to voting equipment.

00:48:09.000 You cannot have these black boxes where the company says, oh, we can't show you the software because that would violate our proprietary licenses.

00:48:16.000 And you cannot have that in a democracy.

00:48:19.000 You cannot not be able to see the counting machine, the software that does it.

00:48:22.000 And the thing is, there is a lot of open source software out there already because there are third world countries that have serious problems or the people won't trust the outcome.

00:48:32.000 So they, oh, we've developed this open source software.

00:48:34.000 It's completely free.

00:48:35.000 Microsoft has developed open source software for voting equipment.

00:48:38.000 It doesn't run Windows or anything like it.

00:48:39.000 It's completely open source.

00:48:40.000 I know this is a little bit technical, but if your state isn't running open source voting equipment, you've got to get rid of it.

00:48:47.000 But here's the other problem, and this is my fourth solution.

00:48:50.000 If you have a state legislator who signed on, or a state governor or somebody else in your government who said, hey, it's okay to use closed source stuff from Dominion, they're not qualified to do their job.

00:49:05.000 They're not qualified because look, we're citizens of this country.

00:49:08.000 We have problems with the government.

00:49:09.000 Postal Service loses packages all the time.

00:49:11.000 Medicare messes up your billing.

00:49:13.000 Social Security mails the check to the wrong address, right?

00:49:15.000 We know there are potholes.

00:49:17.000 There are potholes all over the roads where you live, right?

00:49:19.000 We can live, we understand that, right?

00:49:22.000 We understand our government's not perfect.

00:49:23.000 But if the system by which we correct all those problems is corrupt, as corrupt or ineffective, or in which we can have no confidence, then we're kind of done as a country.

00:49:34.000 So you've got to hold your local officials accountable.

00:49:37.000 You've got to, when you vote in your primaries, you should be insisting that they answer questions related to these policy initiatives I've suggested.

00:49:44.000 And beyond that, we've just got to register more of our people.

00:49:46.000 This is going to kind of be my thing for the next couple of years.

00:49:49.000 I've got a C3 called Look Ahead America, where we're trying to register and turn out to vote disaffected patriotic Americans.

00:49:54.000 So that's going to be my mission for the next four years.

00:49:56.000 You can make it your mission to make sure everybody you know is registered, make sure they're educated and hold your folks at the county level accountable.

00:50:04.000 Because it's hard to get a senator to respond to your phone call or email, right?

00:50:07.000 It's hard.

00:50:07.000 But you can get your county people to.

00:50:09.000 And in many cases, you can get your state legislatures and some of your statewide officials.

00:50:13.000 You have personally got to hold them accountable.

00:50:15.000 And in those primaries, you've got to be aware of where they vote on these issues.

00:50:20.000 And maybe if they're not right on this issue, maybe you need to step up and run against them.

00:50:24.000 Maybe we have some future candidates in this audience.

00:50:27.000 It's been a real teaching moment.

00:50:29.000 And look, we.

00:50:31.000 And I want to get Kyle's input on the open source part of it because I saw that you were not nodding your head.

00:50:35.000 No, I think that's an excellent point.

00:50:37.000 If it's open source, it solves a lot of the problems with the proprietary source codes that we see with the SNS and Dominion.

00:50:45.000 And of course, there's research out that suggests that Biden won 5% more on Dominion voting systems than any other voting method.

00:50:53.000 And Heart InterCivic, which is another big player, 6%.

00:50:56.000 And there are some others who are less.

00:50:58.000 Yes, and that's within range, ironically.

00:51:02.000 But this disparities in voting system methods that have been coming up where you sample where the voting systems are being used.

00:51:08.000 This should not happen.

00:51:09.000 This is statistical nonsense.

00:51:11.000 Anybody who does political science research methods knows this.

00:51:14.000 What we need is you people to be proactive and to really be forward-looking.

00:51:20.000 It's really the conservative instinct to be backward-looking because we love our country, we love our heritage, but we need to be proactive and forward-looking, right?

00:51:31.000 And what does that mean?

00:51:32.000 We need to have better surveillance of places that are highly suspect for fraud.

00:51:37.000 We need a task force, maybe an FBI task force that maybe does surveillance.

00:51:41.000 It shows if people are moving ballots in suspiciously to polling centers.

00:51:46.000 All sorts of things that we can be done.

00:51:48.000 We need to use our brains and our activism and also go around the corporate media and big tech, which is a huge threat to us.

00:51:54.000 Talk to people.

00:51:55.000 I talked to an Uber driver who hates Trump and who's a moderate.

00:51:58.000 I got him won over to my side pretty easily.

00:52:01.000 By pointing out things that the left and the Democrats have said about these private voting system companies, they're not trustworthy if they're hiding their source code.

00:52:09.000 This is very simple stuff to win people over, but we need to have human conversations.

00:52:12.000 Don't rely on big tech.

00:52:14.000 Don't rely on corporate media.

00:52:15.000 They're not representing our interests right now for the most part.

00:52:18.000 And I think that, yes, go ahead, Charles.

00:52:21.000 Oh, it's great.

00:52:22.000 I completely agree.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, so I just think that we need to be proactive forward-looking.

00:52:26.000 Go into what Matt said.

00:52:28.000 Don't let them demoralize us because that's when they win.

00:52:31.000 We outnumber them, okay?

00:52:33.000 Forget the stuff in the streets in Portland, all the smokescreen and the astroturf and the highest turnout by percentage since 1900.

00:52:42.000 Come on, give me a break.

00:52:43.000 This guy didn't even show up.

00:52:44.000 Is anybody who here saw Harris Biden signs in their neighborhoods?

00:52:48.000 Anybody see this?

00:52:49.000 Like, where do they have?

00:52:50.000 Okay, a few, like a few, but I think the going out of business signs in these blue states far outnumber the Biden-Harris signs.

00:52:56.000 Okay, so we don't believe the optics are not there.

00:53:00.000 It's a smokescreen.

00:53:01.000 Don't believe your eyes.

00:53:03.000 They don't have the consensus on their side.

00:53:05.000 We're the majority.

00:53:06.000 They can play pretend that they're the majority all they want.

00:53:10.000 They're not.

00:53:11.000 We need to stay confident and assertive and hold the state legislatures to the fire because we need to do like in Maryland and some counties of Virginia and just take back, say, we're going to do paper ballots until we get this fixed.

00:53:23.000 And look, there's examples of this.

00:53:25.000 So you have very weak governors, you know, like Brian Kemp in Georgia, who has quite honestly been one of the greatest disappointments, I think, in American political history.

00:53:34.000 And he went and asked everyone for their support.

00:53:38.000 He asked Trump to come in and help bail him out against Stacey Abrams.

00:53:42.000 But here's the thing.

00:53:44.000 We can be critical.

00:53:44.000 We should be critical.

00:53:45.000 We should be critical to lockdown Republicans like Charlie Baker and DeWine.

00:53:50.000 We should be critical of any Republican that mandates that you stay at home for curfew, all that sort of nonsense.

00:53:56.000 But we should also talk about building up the people that are doing a good job.

00:54:01.000 So here's a good example.

00:54:02.000 This state used to have a disaster of an election system three years ago.

00:54:07.000 And we forget about this.

00:54:08.000 Three years ago, this state was a circus.

00:54:11.000 Just go to Broward County. 1.00

00:54:13.000 There was a woman that ran it called Brenda Snipes. 1.00

00:54:15.000 You think that Georgia is a mess? 1.00

00:54:17.000 This woman, they would bring in ballots from, I think, like the Caribbean. 1.00

00:54:21.000 It was like all over the place.

00:54:23.000 And it was this week-long counting, just carnival.

00:54:27.000 Ron DeSantis wins.

00:54:29.000 Ron DeSantis, who might be America's greatest governor with Christy Noam.

00:54:35.000 Seriously.

00:54:40.000 And this is the difference between someone like Ron DeSantis and Brian Kemp.

00:54:45.000 So Ron DeSantis says, you know what?

00:54:48.000 I'm going to fight to make sure no one has to go through what I went through again, which is a long, drawn-out election, Broward County, this whole thing, and they're suing.

00:54:58.000 And Rick Scott and Bill Nelson actually had a tighter race that year.

00:55:02.000 So we fired Brenda Snipes immediately. 0.78

00:55:05.000 He's a racist, all these terrible things. 1.00

00:55:07.000 Doesn't phase him. 1.00

00:55:07.000 He doesn't care. 1.00

00:55:08.000 He gets into court and Ron DeSantis says the following.

00:55:12.000 His position will be that if you do not have the election results of the state of Florida in your county and by, I think it's like 95% by 9:30 Eastern, then you've got to get in front of a judge and tell them why.

00:55:25.000 It's that simple.

00:55:26.000 The Democrats lost their mind.

00:55:28.000 The Democrats, the Democrats sued endlessly.

00:55:32.000 And the Democrats brought them into court and they said this is racist, this is terrible.

00:55:35.000 And Ron DeSantis and his wonderful team, they said, no, the state of Florida, it's going to be our setting the example of the rest of the country.

00:55:43.000 Now, you want to know a fact?

00:55:45.000 More people vote by mail in this state than almost any other state in the country except maybe California.

00:55:51.000 More people vote by mail in this state than in Georgia.

00:55:53.000 And so then why is it that in Georgia, they're bringing ballots underneath tables.

00:55:58.000 They got ballots all over the place.

00:56:00.000 One word, leadership.

00:56:01.000 That's it.

00:56:03.000 It's this state has a leader.

00:56:05.000 Georgia just not.

00:56:06.000 And so to complete the point, what happens when we have fair and free elections?

00:56:11.000 A state like Florida, where Donald Trump in 2016 won by 110,000 votes, is that about 120,000 votes?

00:56:20.000 He won by 400,000 votes in 2020 in Florida.

00:56:26.000 That's what happens.

00:56:28.000 That's what happened.

00:56:29.000 How did that happen, right?

00:56:30.000 Well, it happened because he campaigned in Florida.

00:56:32.000 He had a great message, Miami-Dade County.

00:56:35.000 But also, there has not been one allegation of voter fraud in Florida.

00:56:39.000 And here's why.

00:56:40.000 I'm a registered voter in the state of Florida.

00:56:42.000 I fled Illinois proudly.

00:56:44.000 And I went to go vote early.

00:56:49.000 And I've told this story many times.

00:56:51.000 And when I went to go vote, I was, you know, asked for my ID.

00:56:54.000 What a concept.

00:56:55.000 And a guy comes in and very kind of strange guy.

00:56:58.000 And he asks to vote.

00:57:01.000 And they ask for his name and his identification.

00:57:03.000 They say, and he says, well, the records show you've already got an absentee ballot.

00:57:08.000 It's like, no, I want to vote in person.

00:57:10.000 And they say, well, sir, according to Florida state law, you have to surrender your absentee ballot, and you can't vote.

00:57:15.000 They had an argument, and he's like, well, I want to vote right now.

00:57:18.000 And they said, well, you can vote provisionally, but they find out you submitted your absentee ballot, you can go to jail.

00:57:24.000 Argument, he leaves.

00:57:25.000 Now, I don't, maybe he was just having a bad day.

00:57:28.000 Maybe he truly lost the ballot.

00:57:30.000 Here's the point.

00:57:31.000 What if he was trying to commit voter fraud?

00:57:33.000 I saw that just get stopped in real time in the state of Florida.

00:57:37.000 And then you look at these other states where they are afraid to pick the fights.

00:57:42.000 And I bring this for a reason.

00:57:43.000 I want you to close this out, Richard, which is if we are serious about fixing this, then we need to look at where elections are currently working.

00:57:53.000 And in a state where you have an elderly population that votes by mail, you have a lot of people that had more vote by mail requests in Florida than ever before, and they were able to have all those results in by 9:30 Eastern and declare victory for Donald Trump.

00:58:07.000 That is a test case to model for the rest of the country.

00:58:10.000 And that's exactly what we should do.

00:58:11.000 Richard.

00:58:12.000 Yes.

00:58:14.000 14 million voters on the records in the state.

00:58:16.000 I mean, 14 million, sometimes double, triple, far more than some of these other states that had issues.

00:58:23.000 And, you know, I think Matt and Kyle both said it really best.

00:58:26.000 You have got to make election reform, election integrity a plank.

00:58:31.000 It's got to be a plank like the Second Amendment is a plank.

00:58:35.000 It is like, it is that serious.

00:58:37.000 It is, it really, like we have to liken it to that degree because this is really, Florida's a great example, but until it got cleaned up here, it looked a lot like some other places.

00:58:48.000 It was a mess.

00:58:49.000 And you're disproportionately, it's not even a matter the roles are dirty.

00:58:53.000 It's really worse than that.

00:58:54.000 You're disproportionately, you're at a disadvantage.

00:58:57.000 So in Nevada, Clark County is about seven in 10, roughly, of the total statewide vote.

00:59:02.000 It's 84.5% of the total change of address flags on the voter floor.

00:59:07.000 So not only is it dirty, but even if everybody wanted to cheat and hand in change of dress flag statewide, didn't matter which party it was, you'd still be at a disadvantage.

00:59:18.000 You couldn't make it up because it's dirty in bluer areas.

00:59:22.000 So it really has to be taken that seriously because we are a self-governing society.

00:59:29.000 And if you lose hope, if people lose hope that the system just doesn't work, then history tells us it really gets ugly from there, folks.

00:59:37.000 It gets ugly.

00:59:38.000 So it's either we fix this or like Matt said, that's it. 0.98

00:59:42.000 It's a rat. 0.99

00:59:43.000 It's a rat. 0.99

00:59:44.000 And it'll get darker from there. 0.85

00:59:46.000 Ohio also did a fantastic job.

00:59:48.000 You'll hear a lot of these people discuss Ohio, the state of Ohio.

00:59:52.000 I mean, still not great, not Florida, not gold standard, but I bring them up because people, and I'm sure Matt's heard this excuse, well, we're not allowed to handle the absentee ballots until a certain time.

01:00:02.000 Ohio is one of the most strict states for when they can begin to process absentee ballots.

01:00:06.000 It's a nonsense excuse.

01:00:08.000 Nonsense.

01:00:09.000 And in Florida, you can do it 24 days, I believe, up until the election.

01:00:13.000 So some of those states have to change their laws.

01:00:15.000 And if those candidates in a primary do not support this or even do not take it seriously, they have to go.

01:00:23.000 It has to be like that.

01:00:25.000 If your issue is the Second Amendment or if your issue is whatever it may be, economic freedom, whatever your real key central issue is, you have to put election integrity right next to it in your heart.

01:00:37.000 You have to find a place for it.

01:00:38.000 Make a spot for it and fight for it like you would fight for that top issue.

01:00:42.000 And you've always felt that passion.

01:00:46.000 Just to embellish Rich's point, voting is mankind's system for avoiding warfare.

01:00:54.000 That is what we have developed.

01:00:56.000 So if you want to avoid warfare in the United States or political violence, if you look at this in the literature, I'm not making this up.

01:01:04.000 We need to have legitimate elections that are verifiable, free, and fair.

01:01:10.000 So all parties at the end of the election, they put down their, you know, they put down their weapons or whatever.

01:01:15.000 And they say, no, you're right.

01:01:16.000 We lost fair and square.

01:01:18.000 We'll work harder than you next time.

01:01:21.000 We'll get you next time.

01:01:23.000 It's not like that.

01:01:24.000 The left is dead serious about winning.

01:01:27.000 Like Charlie was saying, they think they're really fighting Mussolini in their illusion in their minds.

01:01:34.000 And who knows?

01:01:36.000 But we don't want that in this country because if we fall prey to that, liberty is over for generations.

01:01:43.000 We become everything that the founders warned us against.

01:01:47.000 But remain hopeful.

01:01:48.000 Elections can be fair and free.

01:01:50.000 You are in a state that does it right.

01:01:51.000 And so every time this gets brought up, be a solution-oriented activist.

01:01:56.000 Don't just complain.

01:01:58.000 Ask your leaders in Georgia and Arizona and everywhere across the country that has these screwed up elections.

01:02:03.000 Why can the third most populous state in the country do it correctly?

01:02:07.000 It's a great counter.

01:02:08.000 And they have no counter with more vote by mail than almost any other state.

01:02:11.000 God bless you guys.

01:02:12.000 Thank you so much.

01:02:13.000 Let's give it up for this panel.

01:02:17.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:02:18.000 Please email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:02:21.000 And if you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com slash support.

01:02:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:02:26.000 God bless.

01:02:27.000 Speak to you, sir.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 23, 2020

The Most Comprehensive Election Fraud Conversation You'll Hear Today

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