The Charlie Kirk Show - The Most Comprehensive Explanation of the NSA's Spy Operation on Tucker Carlson

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00:00:06.000 We talk about the NSA spying operation on Tucker Carlson.

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00:04:28.000 As I promised, we are going to cover the explosive claims made by Tucker Carlson last night that he is being spied on by the NSA.

00:04:35.000 Now, when this story, when his show concluded, all I saw last night was links and articles to this and that, like Tucker Carlson exposed the NSA or unfounded claims, conspiracy, this, that, and the other.

00:04:48.000 Very interesting back and forth.

00:04:49.000 Let's go ahead and play Cut 41.

00:04:51.000 This is Tucker in his own words talking about what's going on with the NSA and his show.

00:04:55.000 But it's not just political protesters the government is spying on.

00:04:58.000 Yesterday, we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S. government who reached out to warn us that the NSA, the National Security Agency, is monitoring our electronic communications and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.

00:05:12.000 The whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails.

00:05:24.000 There's no other possible source for that information, period.

00:05:28.000 So Tucker is basically saying he's got a very good source that has a whistleblower.

00:05:35.000 By the way, notice the use of the language whistleblower.

00:05:38.000 This is a term that the left has perfected, whistleblower.

00:05:41.000 Tucker is expertly using language to counter what the left often does, right?

00:05:46.000 He's saying it's a whistleblower.

00:05:48.000 This is a good guy.

00:05:49.000 This is one of the good guys.

00:05:50.000 He came to me.

00:05:50.000 He said that they're spying on you in your show.

00:05:52.000 Tucker confirms the emails.

00:05:54.000 Tucker confirms the information that is being conveyed to him by the whistleblower and is saying that he has independently corroborated this.

00:06:02.000 That this is the only way that this guy could have this information is if they were spying on me personally.

00:06:08.000 Now, that is very troubling information.

00:06:12.000 If you are an American citizen, you would think that your own federal government would not be spying on you because it's in the Constitution.

00:06:18.000 So I want to go back through how we got here, why what Tucker's saying is actually plausible, and then we're going to loop back around and explain what to do next.

00:06:26.000 Okay, so what we know is that this seems like a viable idea.

00:06:31.000 This seems plausible.

00:06:32.000 Even the National Review, which is no Tucker fan, often comes to blows with Tucker on a lot of different ideas, is saying this is sadly very plausible.

00:06:41.000 Okay, so the Fourth Amendment.

00:06:42.000 Let's do a little Constitution 101 here.

00:06:44.000 I'm going to read it to you.

00:06:46.000 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

00:07:08.000 So right at the beginning, big note: this is, it says to American citizens that you are protected by this amendment, this by the Fourth Amendment. 0.99

00:07:19.000 Foreign nationals are not.

00:07:20.000 Okay, so Jen Saki is giving, I think she's speaking with a pool on Air Force One at the moment, saying, as everybody knows, the NSA only searches and spies on foreign nationals.

00:07:32.000 Well, all you have to do really quickly is a quick Google search about federal government spying on journalists, and you get the community to protect journalists saying the NSA puts journalists under a cloud of suspicion.

00:07:46.000 You get the ACLU saying our rights are under attack, that they are enough spying on journalists, no more spying on journalists.

00:07:54.000 Basically, article after article after article.

00:07:56.000 Now, some are accusing the Trump administration of spying on five journalists.

00:08:00.000 That would not be right either.

00:08:02.000 Surveillance of CNN journalists.

00:08:04.000 We've seen the Obama administration target Fox journalists.

00:08:08.000 This is something that's happening.

00:08:10.000 So Jensaki can say that the NSA only spies on foreign nationals and that this is not a thing and that Tucker Carlson is a conspiracy nut.

00:08:18.000 Well, we know that this is happening.

00:08:20.000 We've seen reports of it time and time again.

00:08:22.000 And by the way, every time it happens to somebody on the left at CNN, MSNBC, even though CNN is an objective news source, they don't editorialize at all.

00:08:31.000 Oh, by the way, one good piece of news.

00:08:34.000 Jake Tapper's ratings are down 75%.

00:08:37.000 75%.

00:08:38.000 That's like hard to pull off.

00:08:40.000 I mean, that's a plummet, if I've ever seen one.

00:08:43.000 But anyways, if it happens to the left, they freak out, bunch of pushback, because a national news story for days and weeks and months ahead, and they end up pushing back and getting some results out of it.

00:08:54.000 When it happens to a conservative like Tucker Carlson, they will say, well, hmm, he probably had it coming.

00:08:59.000 He probably had it coming.

00:09:00.000 And I'm going to get into why they probably think that in just one second.

00:09:05.000 So the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable, it's a protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.

00:09:12.000 Generally, if you're going to go against that, it requires a permission from a judge or a magistrate.

00:09:18.000 It's a check and balance system.

00:09:20.000 So you need two of the three branches to essentially agree for that to happen and to agree that it's necessary and lawful to search somebody.

00:09:29.000 So if the NSA, which is part of the executive branch, wants to spy on an American citizen, remember, non-citizens do not have the Fourth Amendment protection.

00:09:39.000 In theory, and this is where the NSA and the FBI would come into play.

00:09:43.000 So it could be that FBI, we're not sure how all of the inner workings of the Intel community work.

00:09:49.000 You would need to go to the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, FISC, also known as FISA, which became very famous during the Trump administration.

00:09:59.000 We all know that.

00:10:00.000 The court was established and authorized under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, the FISA Act, to oversee requests for surveillance warrants against foreign spies inside the United States by federal law enforcement.

00:10:14.000 So the NSA and the FBI are the two agencies that appear most in front of the FISA court.

00:10:20.000 So, but here's what's crazy.

00:10:22.000 And this is one of the reforms that very much needs to happen.

00:10:25.000 And even Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham, said he was for reforming this process when it came, when it became very apparent with Trump that it's being abused.

00:10:34.000 Now, Lindsey Graham is somebody who obviously is on our list today because he's and he's on our bad list.

00:10:43.000 It's not like a, you know, you know, media matters.

00:10:46.000 He's not on some like, you know, hit list.

00:10:46.000 Okay.

00:10:48.000 He's just, he's being, he's negotiating with Joe Biden, and now he's like the FISA court, you know, lead cheerleader.

00:10:55.000 Well, here's the reason it's bad because over the 34-year period from 1978 to 2012, the FISA court granted 33,942 warrants.

00:11:05.000 How many did they deny?

00:11:08.000 That's a rejection rate of 0.03%.

00:11:08.000 12.

00:11:11.000 It's basically a rubber stamp.

00:11:13.000 You're like, we're going to go surveil X person because he's connected to some foreign intelligence ring, and we are going to get approved.

00:11:23.000 There's only 12 denials in that time period.

00:11:27.000 So in 2016, of the 1,752 applications received, the FISA court denied just nine, less than 1% of all applications received.

00:11:37.000 So this is obviously a problem.

00:11:39.000 So this is 2016, by the way, is of note because the FBI obtained a secret court order to monitor the communications of a former advisor to presidential candidate Donald Trump then in 2016, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign.

00:11:54.000 When you take all this into consideration, you realize that it's not unreasonable to believe that the NSA could have made a request justified by the National Security Council's released their newly released National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism guidelines.

00:12:13.000 So, what is this?

00:12:14.000 And this is why I think that they have looped Tucker Carlson into all this.

00:12:19.000 U.S. RMVEs, this is from that strategy for countering domestic terrorism, direct quote.

00:12:29.000 RMVEs, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, i.e., all of the MAGA people, who promote the superiority of the white race are the DVE, domestic violent extremist actors with the most persistent and concerning transnational connections because individuals with similar ideological beliefs exist outside of the United States, and these RMVEs frequently communicate and seek to influence each other.

00:12:57.000 We assess that a small number of U.S. RMVEs, again, racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists, have traveled abroad to network with like-minded individuals.

00:13:09.000 So, the tie-ins that the DNI, Director of National Intelligence, makes with travel abroad seems to indicate that the government agencies have used that as a justification for wiretaps and surveillance domestically. 0.91

00:13:27.000 Now, if you've been paying attention to the news, you will see very clearly that the number one accusation leveled against Tucker Carlson is that he is a radical racist, white supremacist, apologist, a dog whistleblower.

00:13:44.000 So, it is not beyond the pale with all of the connections and all the different people that Tucker Carlson talks to that the NSA could have used this as an excuse to spy on Tucker Carlson.

00:13:57.000 It's important to understand what capabilities they have here, the NSA.

00:14:03.000 The NSA was established in 1952 by Harry S. Truman.

00:14:10.000 In general, it's responsible for collecting, processing, and disseminating intelligence information from foreign electronic signals for national foreign intelligence and counterintelligence purposes and to support military operations.

00:14:23.000 Okay, we're all on board with that. 0.58

00:14:24.000 Obviously, we don't want foreign spies getting away with anything, and we want to be able to surveil them back.

00:14:31.000 In 1973, we're going back to the 70s here, a landmark ruling in U.S. versus U.S. District Court, the Supreme Court unanimously, nine to nothing, held the government must comply with the Fourth Amendment when surveilling an alleged domestic intelligence threat.

00:14:50.000 In 1975, the Church Committee, a bipartisan Senate investigation stemming from Watergate, okay, we're talking Nixon years, led by Senator Frank Church, finds the NSA and other intelligence agencies under Nixon engaged in a massive domestic spying program, targeting anti-war pressers, civil rights activists, MLK, anybody, and political opponents.

00:15:12.000 Church remarked, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left.

00:15:21.000 Such is the capability to monitor everything.

00:15:24.000 Telephone conversations, telegrams.

00:15:26.000 It doesn't matter.

00:15:27.000 There would be no place to hide.

00:15:29.000 No place to hide.

00:15:31.000 This is Orwell, folks.

00:15:33.000 Orwell said the only place you would have free is that small little corner in your mind, which you did not disclose to anybody.

00:15:39.000 That would be your last realm of freedom.

00:15:41.000 So let's fast forward all of this.

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00:15:46.000 Ex-NSA analyst J. Kirk Weeby recalls everything changed at the NSA after the attacks of September 11th.

00:15:54.000 The prior approach focused on complying with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

00:15:57.000 The post-September 11th approach was that the NSA could circumvent federal statutes and the Constitution as long as there was some visceral connection to looking for terrorists.

00:16:09.000 Another analyst remembers the individual liberties preserved in the U.S. Constitution were no longer a consideration at the NSA.

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00:17:39.000 September 11, 2001, everything changed.

00:17:42.000 The Fourth Amendment was basically thrown out the window.

00:17:45.000 Bush, the Bush administration, backed by the Patriot Act, essentially allowed the NSA to collect telephone content, internet content, telephone metadata, internet metadata.

00:17:57.000 According to the NSA, it wrongly thought that the authorization under Bush allowed for the collection of solely domestic U.S. communications.

00:18:05.000 The NSA retained, processed, analyzed, and disseminated intelligence from these four types of data.

00:18:11.000 So the Patriot Act gets signed on October 26, 2001.

00:18:16.000 And so now we have the USA Patriot Act.

00:18:20.000 In 2004, the New York Times reported the National Security Agency first began to conduct warrantless eavesdropping on telephone calls and email messages between the United States and Afghanistan months before President Bush officially authorized a broader version of the agency's special domestic collection program, according to current and former government officials.

00:18:38.000 Bush confirmed the existence of the security agency's domestic intelligence collection program and defended it, saying it had been instrumental in disrupting terrorist sales in America.

00:18:48.000 So this is the justification for it. 0.77

00:18:49.000 Domestic terrorism or foreigners in our own borders.

00:18:54.000 USA Today confirms it in a report in 2006 that this is happening domestically.

00:19:00.000 It confirms the Patriot Act is sort of the backbone for all of this.

00:19:03.000 In 2008, Obama takes office.

00:19:08.000 He stops the searching and the calling of record information collected using Section 215 of the Patriot Act.

00:19:14.000 The NSA at that point must now seek court approval to query the metadata on a case-by-case basis, except where necessary to protect against the imminent threat to human life.

00:19:24.000 In 2012, the director of national intelligence, who oversees all of these intelligence agencies, admits in a letter to Senator Ron Wyden that on at least one occasion, the FISA court found that minimizing procedures used by the government while conducting surveillance under FISA was, quote, unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment.

00:19:43.000 So now we have senators saying that these domestic searches and surveillance are absolutely happening in their violation of the Fourth Amendment.

00:19:54.000 Nevertheless, it continues.

00:19:56.000 The program continually gets reauthorized by Congress, namely because people like Senator Lindsey Graham are all about it.

00:20:05.000 So all of this changed in 2013.

00:20:08.000 We reached a massive, massive turning point with the NSA spying operation and what had been disclosed when Edward Snowden became the NSA whistleblower.

00:20:21.000 That word again, we love whistleblowers, apparently.

00:20:23.000 I mean, if the Democrats can do it, why can't we whistleblow?

00:20:26.000 Okay.

00:20:26.000 Edward Snowden.

00:20:27.000 And by the way, Edward Snowden, for all intents and purposes, is a civil libertarian.

00:20:31.000 I mean, that's what drove his whistleblowing, right?

00:20:34.000 In July, so NSA director Keith Alexander initially estimated that Edward Snowden had copied anywhere from 50,000 to 200,000 NSA documents.

00:20:44.000 However, later, that estimate was upped to 1.7 million documents, a number that originally came from the Department of Defense talking points.

00:20:55.000 In July of 2014, the Washington Post reported on a cache previously provided by Snowden from domestic NSA operations, consisting of roughly 160,000 intercepted emails and instant message conversations, some of them hundreds of pages long, and 7,900 documents taken from more than 11,000 online accounts.

00:21:17.000 11,000, folks.

00:21:19.000 A U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report declassified in 2015 said that Snowden took 900,000 Department of Defense files, more than he downloaded from the NSA.

00:21:31.000 So you've got leaked documents from all over the place.

00:21:35.000 Edward Snowden blowing the lid on this entire operation.

00:21:39.000 In 2013, Snowden claimed in a Guardian report, I, sitting at my desk, could wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge or even the president if I had a personal email.

00:21:53.000 It was revealed that the NSA was harvesting millions of emails and instant messaging contact, searching email content, tracking and mapping the location of cell phones, undermining attempts at encryption, which we are all very well aware of.

00:22:05.000 So if you are listening to this and you're on the Telegram app, they can absolutely hack Telegram.

00:22:10.000 If you're on Signal, some people say it's more secure.

00:22:14.000 I'm sure they've hacked that as well.

00:22:16.000 And that the agency was using cookies to piggyback on and the same tools that advertisers on the internet use to track you, the same tools that advertising agencies and marketing agencies use to track your behavior online to sell you products.

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00:22:43.000 So Snowden basically blows the lid off all this domestic surveillance happening underneath all of our noses.

00:22:50.000 And he discloses these documents.

00:22:52.000 He flees the U.S. and he said nothing would stop subsequent disclosures.

00:23:00.000 So Snowden is a man on a mission.

00:23:01.000 He's disclosing this.

00:23:02.000 The Obama administration tries to put him in jail, in prison.

00:23:08.000 On June 14th, 2020, the charges filed in the criminal complaint against Stowden are theft of government property, unauthorized communication of national defense information, willful communication of classified intelligence information to an unauthorized person.

00:23:23.000 Each of these carries like 10 years in prison.

00:23:26.000 The criminal complaint was initially secret, but it was later unsealed.

00:23:31.000 If you're thinking, I've seen Edward Snowden, well, it's because he fled to Russia, which I don't know if that helps this case or not.

00:23:38.000 Snowden in Russia has been on the run.

00:23:40.000 He sometimes does interviews with different people.

00:23:43.000 I think he's done it.

00:23:44.000 I think Sean Hannity traveled to Russia and spoke with Edward Snowden.

00:23:49.000 So at the end of the year, on December 16th, 2013, so we're still back in this timeframe, 2012, 2013, 2014.

00:23:56.000 But this is December 16th, 2013, federal judge Richard Leon holds that the bulk telephony metadata collection and analysis almost certainly does violate a reasonable expectation of privacy, which in turn likely results in a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

00:24:14.000 So back to the Constitution.

00:24:16.000 This is the Fourth Amendment, very important.

00:24:18.000 It's supposed to protect us from these searches and seizures unreasonably without a warrant, as our founders intended.

00:24:28.000 And yet, the founders had no way to anticipate the size of this intelligence apparatus that we would one day in the starting in really the post-World War II era begin to construct.

00:24:40.000 It's the same when we talk about Google.

00:24:42.000 The founders had no way to understand that a private entity like Google or Facebook could grow to such an enormous size that it could become more powerful than the U.S. government.

00:24:51.000 Well, in the same way, when they're talking about the Fourth Amendment, they said search and seizure, which should, by an umbrella sort of general understanding of what that means to our privacy, had they known, had they been living in this era, they would have certainly said the intelligence apparatus of the United States government could not unreasonably be used to collect all this metadata.

00:25:14.000 Nevertheless, this has been an ongoing back and forth.

00:25:17.000 Now, in 2013, federal judge Richard Leon seems to affirm that the Fourth Amendment does cover this and does protect us.

00:25:25.000 But nevertheless, on January 3rd, 2014, okay, so we get from December 16th, the year rolls over.

00:25:31.000 We're now in 2014, January 3rd, a FISA court renews order collecting all Americans' call-in records.

00:25:38.000 This is unelected.

00:25:40.000 This is unaccountable.

00:25:41.000 And this is out of control surveillance.

00:25:44.000 So you got a judge saying, hey, this violates your Fourth Amendment.

00:25:47.000 Nevertheless, FISA court renews order collecting America's calling records.

00:25:51.000 So this all goes on until June 2015.

00:25:55.000 Section 215 of the Patriot continued to be renewed.

00:26:00.000 So it was going to be temporarily expired on June 1st, 2015.

00:26:05.000 And then Congress acted and the Senate passed the USA Freedom Act, which attempts to end the bulk collection of calling records under Section 215 of the Patriot Act by limiting collections to instances where there is, quote, reasonable, articulable suspicion that a quote, specific selection term used to request call detail records is associated with international terrorism.

00:26:29.000 So they're trying again to link this domestic surveillance.

00:26:32.000 They're trying to narrow the scope and say it has to be tied to international terrorism.

00:26:37.000 The passage of USA Freedom in June of 2015 marks the first time in over 30 years that both houses of Congress approved a bill placing restrictions and oversight on the NSA surveillance powers.

00:26:50.000 Because that's a big deal.

00:26:52.000 2015, Obama, okay, whatever.

00:26:55.000 It actually curtailed some of the powers.

00:26:57.000 So just to recap, we've got the NSA, we've got 1978 creating the FISA court.

00:27:05.000 You're supposed to get a warrant.

00:27:07.000 9-11 happens.

00:27:09.000 They basically throw out the Fourth Amendment out the window.

00:27:14.000 You've got the growing intelligence apparatus sweeping up metadata and individual calls, especially after 9-11, bolstered by the Patriot Act.

00:27:25.000 You've got lawsuits really starting in earnest in 2009 to say this is illegal.

00:27:31.000 This is an affront to the Fourth Amendment.

00:27:32.000 This is unconstitutional what you're doing to domestic citizens.

00:27:36.000 And you've got Edward Snowden in 2012 blowing the lid off of this.

00:27:39.000 You've got a judge in 2014 essentially saying that this is likely a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

00:27:47.000 And then you've got this new bill in 2015 that actually gets passed through Congress that puts limiting and restricting measures on the NSA's ability to sweep up Americans' domestic communications.

00:28:05.000 And again, it says you need a specific selection term, reasonable, articulable suspicion to request call detail records in association with international terrorism.

00:28:17.000 So it's putting these boundaries on it finally in 2015.

00:28:24.000 This is the USA Freedom Act.

00:28:25.000 So it's the first time in over 30 years that both houses approved a bill restricting and placing oversight on the national security on the national security agency surveillance powers.

00:28:37.000 Okay, so this is important.

00:28:40.000 Why?

00:28:41.000 Because in 2015, that bolstered the legal complaints against the NSA's spying apparatus.

00:28:46.000 This has been litigated in the courts over and over and over again.

00:28:49.000 People have tried to win these court cases in order to restrict the power of the NSA.

00:28:57.000 So in September of 2020, an important event happened at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

00:29:06.000 In September 2020, the court was hearing a case that dealt with the NSA's program that swept up details on all of these phone calls.

00:29:16.000 And it said that, and this is again metadata.

00:29:18.000 So you got to take an individual case versus metadata.

00:29:22.000 So in September 2020, they finally said the metadata, this large sweep up, was unconstitutional and that it did not amount to a search under a 40-year-old legal precedent.

00:29:35.000 Okay, so they say that it has to be narrow in scope according to 2015 law.

00:29:39.000 And in 2020, they finally said that this broad sweeping up of all this metadata was illegal.

00:29:45.000 But the court stopped short of saying that the snooping was definitely unconstitutional.

00:29:51.000 Okay, so they stopped short, which means that where we're left with is this idea that the NSA can still snoop on domestic people, on citizens, if they can say in plausible terms that it is connected to international terrorism.

00:30:07.000 Now, we know that with the Biden administration, there has been this renewed focus doggedly, I would say pathologically, on domestic terrorism based on ethnic radicalism and white supremacy.

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00:31:02.000 So where does that leave us?

00:31:05.000 It leaves us with the fact that the DNI, who's in charge of all of our intelligence agencies, is creating a pretext under this RMVEs, and we talked about this earlier, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists who support the superiority of the white race, that they call this the most persistent and concerning issue facing our country.

00:31:28.000 And the transnational connections that they have tend to happen because they are connected internationally, right?

00:31:35.000 So they're saying that these RMVEs, these racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists, are connected internationally.

00:31:41.000 And that is the pretext for spying on them.

00:31:44.000 So I go back to the fact that the court has stopped short of calling this domestic surveillance unconstitutional, even though it clearly is an affront to the Fourth Amendment and has tried to place restrictions on this.

00:31:54.000 But the NSA is still able to spy.

00:31:57.000 Now, again, who has Tucker Carlson texted with, called, emailed?

00:32:01.000 We don't know.

00:32:02.000 Of course, we don't know.

00:32:03.000 And we shouldn't know.

00:32:04.000 It's his own private business.

00:32:05.000 We should not know.

00:32:07.000 But I can almost guarantee that that is the pretext for which the NSA used to get a warrant, if they even did, to spy on Tucker Carlson.

00:32:16.000 So who's a white supremacist?

00:32:19.000 Who's a violent extremist?

00:32:20.000 We don't know.

00:32:21.000 The Biden administration probably thinks that the show is.

00:32:23.000 The Biden administration probably thinks that the station that you listen to the Charlie Kirk show on in your car is a violent extremist organization.

00:32:31.000 The Biden administration probably thinks that a Christian church that believes in traditional marriage is a violent extremist organization.

00:32:39.000 This is an affront to a traditional way of life.

00:32:43.000 If you hold to the permanent, if you hold to ancient principles, if you hold to an ancient faith, the Biden administration has you in their crosshairs.

00:32:53.000 They have targeted you.

00:32:54.000 They say that you are part of a violent extremist network.

00:32:57.000 And if you text with them, if you email with people that they have on their list, then you will have your communication swept up in an intelligence apparatus, the likes of which our founders would be turning over in their grave if they knew about.

00:33:12.000 Folks, Tucker Carlson is probably and absolutely being surveilled.

00:33:18.000 And I just want one little flashback here.

00:33:22.000 One little flashback.

00:33:23.000 I'm going to play cut 43.

00:33:26.000 This is Senator Chuck Schumer then talking about then president-elect President Trump in 2016 warning him not to take on the surveillance state.

00:33:39.000 Let's play cut 43.

00:33:41.000 Shot, this antagonism is taunting to the intelligence community.

00:33:44.000 You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. 0.99

00:33:50.000 So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this.

00:33:56.000 Never forget, Senator Chuck Schumer warned President Trump not to take on the surveillance and the surveillance state, the intelligence community, because why? 0.86

00:34:06.000 They have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. 0.98

00:34:10.000 He's being really dumb to do this. 0.94

00:34:12.000 And since the Biden administration, who has been person number one, the target number one that they want to get, they want to take out, they want to destroy, that would probably be Tucker Carlson. 0.99

00:34:26.000 So are they spying on Tucker Carlson?

00:34:27.000 It's absolutely plausible.

00:34:29.000 It's something for us all to keep in mind as we attempt to push back and tell the truth about what's going on in this country.

00:34:37.000 Thanks so much, everybody, for listening.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 30, 2021

The Most Comprehensive Explanation of the NSA's Spy Operation on Tucker Carlson

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