The Charlie Kirk Show - February 12, 2026


The Most Horrifying Video of 2026


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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 We are still in Palm Beach.
00:01:13.000 Well, I am, and Blake is holding it down in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:18.000 We want to start today's show by unpacking some of the newest details involving the trans shooter in Canada that left nine dead, including himself, as well as his stepbrother, a 12 year old stepbrother, and his mom, and then killing a bunch of kids and one teacher.
00:01:36.000 The kids were between 12 and 13.
00:01:39.000 It's just an absolutely excruciating story.
00:01:42.000 But some of the details that have emerged have been raising eyebrows just because they are so, I would say, troubling, demonic, frightening.
00:01:55.000 And we have to play this video because I think it sets the tone for what we're about to unpack now.
00:02:02.000 This is the alleged Canada shooter laughing maniacally.
00:02:08.000 And I want you to look at this video of this individual.
00:02:13.000 And then realize that instead of getting mental help or spiritual help, the officials in Canada instead decided to pour poison and drugs and more SSRIs down his throat.
00:02:26.000 For those who can't see it, he does makeup on like he's the Joker from The Dark Knight, like on his face, kind of like Heath Ledger from The Dark Knight.
00:02:37.000 It seems to be like cackling to himself.
00:02:41.000 And that's such a, it's an underrated, because they would basically censor it, a part of the radical transgender ideology.
00:02:49.000 So much of it is people who get lost in fictional worlds.
00:02:53.000 They want to become fictional characters.
00:02:56.000 One reason when people change their names, they tend to not just pick a feminine version of their original name, they'll pick like a totally new one, like they're creating a new character in a video game.
00:03:06.000 And that's one of something incredible that was found the other day, years ago.
00:03:12.000 Matt Walsh on his Twitter account posted something that had been posted on a Reddit thread about transgenderism.
00:03:19.000 And it was a user who's saying, How do I stop comparing myself to fictional characters?
00:03:24.000 And they go on, I am a trans MTF 15 year old.
00:03:28.000 I've been viewing a lot of anime related content I was never into before.
00:03:31.000 And he goes on about always relating himself to these anime characters.
00:03:36.000 And Matt Walsh posts this and basically saying, These people are not mentally well.
00:03:42.000 And everyone on the pro transgender Reddits flipped out at the time.
00:03:46.000 It went viral at the time.
00:03:47.000 And now here we are three years later.
00:03:49.000 And it appears the owner of that account is the young man who murdered two of his family members and then a bunch of innocent people at his own school.
00:03:58.000 Yeah.
00:04:01.000 And we have the video here with the sound.
00:04:03.000 And I wanted to play it with the sound because when you see this with the audio, I think it's even more impactful.
00:04:10.000 It's more terrifying.
00:04:12.000 469.
00:04:42.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:04:44.000 Never play that video on this program again.
00:04:46.000 Oh my God.
00:04:47.000 Yeah, we will never do that again.
00:04:50.000 But I think it's important because these are the people that a certain contingent of the population, mostly radical progressives, are doing everything in their power to defend, to apologize for, to create avenues and protections, legal or otherwise, as opposed to getting them the help that they need.
00:05:09.000 You should have compassion on people that have mental health issues.
00:05:13.000 Those mental health issues.
00:05:14.000 But another wrinkle has emerged that this individual had a Roblox account.
00:05:21.000 And this is going to be a repeated theme on this show moving forward.
00:05:25.000 We're going to unpack what Roblox is.
00:05:27.000 And Blake is our resident gaming expert here.
00:05:31.000 But this is a Roblox account.
00:05:33.000 Well, but you probably know more about it than I do.
00:05:35.000 Belonging to the Canadian mass shooter, it was discovered by the internet forum Kiwi Farms last night.
00:05:41.000 One of the games created by the shooter is a mall shooting simulator.
00:05:44.000 A mall shooting simulator modeled after a real mall in Canada, where the player can fire into a crowd of innocent, helpless, terrified civilians.
00:05:57.000 So, this is what young kids can do on Roblox.
00:06:01.000 They can create simulations.
00:06:02.000 They can create their own worlds that they can then act out these fantasies.
00:06:08.000 I think this is interesting because actually, the Kentucky Attorney General is actually suing Roblox and is citing the assassination of Charlie as one of his inspirations for doing this because he's saying that the gaming platform is violating child safety.
00:06:29.000 By giving them the opportunity to create these simulations where they can shoot ICE officers, where they can shoot DHS officers, where they can, in this instance, create a simulation where they're attacking innocent civilians at a mall modeled after a mall.
00:06:46.000 So if you think this through, you realize that they could be creating an entire map for how they can game out an actual attack on civilians.
00:06:56.000 So they're creating the map in their head so that they could, in theory, follow through on an actual shooting.
00:07:02.000 Based on the actual layout of a mall in this instance, or any other public space, any other soft target.
00:07:08.000 So that's the Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman.
00:07:14.000 And the gaming platform has 111 million active monthly users.
00:07:19.000 And he's alleging that it lacks guardrails to protect kids and creates a playground for pedophiles to meet potential victims, which is another weird wrinkle in this Roblox story.
00:07:31.000 So you've got a whole gaming platform that now we know that this kid was on Reddit.
00:07:35.000 He was talking about his trans fascination on Reddit.
00:07:40.000 He was creating Roblox simulations where he was doing mass shootings.
00:07:46.000 And then he actually ends up going and doing it and shooting his mom, shooting his stepbrother, shooting a bunch of kids and a teacher.
00:07:55.000 And meanwhile, the Canadian officials, we talked about this yesterday, went out of their way to protect the identity and the privacy of the shooter.
00:08:07.000 Out of privacy concerns, they refused to acknowledge at first that this was a trans person that shot up everybody in Canada.
00:08:15.000 Yeah, well.
00:08:16.000 Think about that.
00:08:17.000 The absolute upside down nature of their value system that they would care about the privacy of a mass murderer.
00:08:24.000 Go ahead, Blake.
00:08:25.000 Yeah, well, so yeah, they kept it a secret, basically.
00:08:28.000 It almost felt like just long enough to, like, okay, we have to push this past the first day.
00:08:32.000 And then, you know, they ultimately can't keep it secret who did a massacre like this.
00:08:37.000 On the Roblox topic, it's you don't want to fixate on the specific game, though it is true, a ton of people are in it.
00:08:43.000 It's hugely popular.
00:08:44.000 But you also find these people in Minecraft, you find them in similar games.
00:08:48.000 And you'll also see people, we saw this with Charlie, where people are going in Discords.
00:08:53.000 Discord started as a gaming server for people to discuss games, but now there's a million Discords dedicated to.
00:09:02.000 Political radicalism.
00:09:03.000 It's dedicated to transgender topics.
00:09:04.000 They radicalize each other on these forums.
00:09:08.000 And I think the big picture thing to be aware of like, if you're a parent right now, if you're a parent right now, you have to realize there are gigantic online worlds that it's very easy for your children to get sucked into and have it just totally take over their life.
00:09:21.000 If you don't know who your children are talking to online, you have to be aware very dark things could be going on.
00:09:28.000 And it's not that you need to police everything you do, but you should be talking to them.
00:09:32.000 Who are your friends online?
00:09:33.000 And make sure they have friends online.
00:09:34.000 Offline as well.
00:09:36.000 If they're just marinating in this soup of whatever is reaching them on the internet all alone with no input from real people around them, incredibly dark things can be unfolding.
00:09:47.000 And as parents, you have a responsibility to be aware of that.
00:09:50.000 Fantasies lead to realities, and for goodness sakes, do not shove SSRIs down their throats when they're dealing with severe mental illness.
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00:11:31.000 Real quick here there is a graph going around.
00:11:36.000 We're working on confirming it.
00:11:38.000 There isn't any listed sources.
00:11:40.000 But Blake probably just put up a great tweet yesterday documenting all the recent shootings that involve trans people.
00:11:49.000 And so, at least directionally, this graph feels accurate.
00:11:53.000 So, go ahead and throw up 448.
00:11:56.000 It's mass shootings by demographic, 2015 to 2025.
00:12:00.000 And these are public incidents with four or more fatalities expressed as rates per million of the population.
00:12:07.000 Trans, non binary, biological male.
00:12:11.000 Tops the list per capita of mass shootings.
00:12:14.000 Trans, non binary, biological female comes in second than Asian men, black men, white men, Asian women, Hispanic men.
00:12:21.000 Now, again, we're working on confirming the source, but it's hard to argue when you look back, even just at recent history, when you look back at what even happened with Charlie, although the Charlie Shooter was not a trans individual himself.
00:12:36.000 He had a relationship with somebody that was trans and had gender identity, whatever.
00:12:42.000 And so this is a rising epidemic, a problem where we give drugs, mental drugs, mental health drugs, SSRIs, et cetera, hormone therapy.
00:12:56.000 To the most mentally unstable people in our population.
00:12:59.000 And it needs to stop.
00:13:00.000 It should be, frankly, illegal what they're doing to young people.
00:13:03.000 And, Blake, do you have that list of recent shootings, school shootings, church shootings involving trans individuals?
00:13:10.000 I don't have it in front of me, but I can remember a lot off the top of my head.
00:13:13.000 We have the Covenant School shooter.
00:13:15.000 That was a biological female, but still a trans case.
00:13:19.000 There was one at a school in Colorado, I think, in 2017.
00:13:24.000 There were two shooters, but one was transgender.
00:13:26.000 There was the Annunciation Catholic in Minneapolis just a matter of months ago.
00:13:31.000 In fact, just.
00:13:32.000 Days before what happened to Charlie.
00:13:33.000 And of course, we have Charlie's own case, which is adjacent.
00:13:37.000 And now this.
00:13:38.000 And it's not that there's a huge number of them by volume, but overall, there's not, thankfully, there's not that many spree killers overall.
00:13:46.000 And there's not that many transgender people.
00:13:49.000 They're probably under 1% of the population, even with young people.
00:13:54.000 And so to have four or five of them just in a sequence of a matter of years, it really does stand out.
00:14:02.000 And I don't think that's going to be the last we're going to see of it because we, we, Took this insane cocktail of people who are deeply troubled, and instead of getting them help, we've told them actually your delusions should be indulged.
00:14:16.000 And if people are not indulging them, they're trying to commit genocide against you.
00:14:20.000 And rationally, how do you respond to people trying to commit genocide against you?
00:14:25.000 And just fed all of these lies about how they should view this, how they should act, and then supercharged with any number of drugs, hormones, SSRIs.
00:14:35.000 The shooter in Tumblr Ridge, he was apparently taking.
00:14:39.000 Like over 200 milligrams a day of Zoloft when 25 is the one you start with, and I think 200 is the absolute maximum.
00:14:46.000 So, super dosing on this and on a bunch of other drugs as well.
00:14:52.000 Shocker, it blew up in everyone's faces, and I don't think this will be the last one we see.
00:14:57.000 No, I agree, but this is a larger theme of Democrat or if you want to just say progressive left wing compassion gone awry.
00:15:04.000 They do this at the border, they think that letting in millions of people at the border is compassion, then it leads to lots of dead Americans, it leads to carnage in the streets.
00:15:15.000 Commercial trucks getting into mass fatality accidents on our highways.
00:15:19.000 It is the complete opposite of compassion.
00:15:22.000 It's actually cruelty to the American citizen.
00:15:24.000 It's cruelty to the, in this case, to the Canadian citizen.
00:15:26.000 When you absolutely defy nature, when you defy law and order, when you defy the natural order, it ends in these absolute catastrophes.
00:15:38.000 And that's one of the themes of Democrat compassion.
00:15:41.000 They'll always label or put a veneer of compassion.
00:15:45.000 On some of the cruelest, most obscene, most crass, most absurd policies or positions that they take in the public space.
00:15:54.000 And they need to be called out again and again and again because real people are getting hurt.
00:15:59.000 And by the way, this young man should have been helped.
00:16:03.000 He should have been dealt with with compassion and with honesty, with sincerity.
00:16:07.000 But the left creates a Ideological prison around normal people that they cannot navigate out of.
00:16:13.000 They're not equipped to navigate out of it.
00:16:15.000 And they get stuck in these ideological cul de sacs where even this mother, who apparently was sort of a right leaning libertarian type person, posted on her social media that we shouldn't be attacking marginalized people.
00:16:28.000 And with a, Blake, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:16:31.000 It was a picture on her social media with like a trans flag or a LGBTQ flag.
00:16:35.000 Exactly.
00:16:36.000 She had the language of compassion sort of takes over these people's brains and they interpret compassion as.
00:16:43.000 Endless enabling.
00:16:44.000 So, we enable the delusions of people who think they're the opposite sex.
00:16:49.000 We enable people to, for example, like people who shouldn't be in this country who aren't qualified for jobs.
00:16:55.000 We help them get into jobs that they should not be working because they are not qualified for them.
00:16:59.000 They are not capable of them.
00:17:02.000 And we enable addicts to get drugs.
00:17:04.000 We enable the homeless to wreck communities.
00:17:07.000 And this is cruelty to the individuals themselves.
00:17:09.000 Like, I don't think this trans shooter, it didn't work out well for him that he was enabled endlessly.
00:17:14.000 It doesn't work out well.
00:17:16.000 For people who are working the wrong job and they end up killing people, they end up going to jail.
00:17:21.000 And it doesn't work out for anyone in society when we wreck our cities, when we wreck our public spaces, when we wreck our institutions.
00:17:28.000 It is fake compassion.
00:17:30.000 Real compassion requires sometimes making hard choices.
00:17:34.000 This young man probably should have been in an institution somewhere, somewhere that he could get help and at the least where he couldn't hurt himself or other people.
00:17:43.000 And instead, nine people are dead and 25 injured.
00:17:47.000 There's also a harrowing story of a 12 year old that was shot in the head, and she's still surviving, and we pray for her and her family.
00:17:56.000 Just a terrible situation all the way around.
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00:19:18.000 Without further ado, Congressman Chip Roy, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:19:22.000 Sir, there's been so much news on the SAVE Act.
00:19:24.000 Can you give our audience an update where we are at now?
00:19:28.000 Yeah, great to be on with you guys.
00:19:29.000 Appreciate it.
00:19:30.000 And I appreciate your attention to this important issue.
00:19:32.000 You know, I introduced the SAVE Act in its original form in 2024, working with Senator Mike Lee, who was the sponsor in the Senate.
00:19:40.000 We worked with Cleta Mitchell, who's one of President Trump's great lawyers with America First Legal, built a great product that was focused on the citizenship angle, right?
00:19:40.000 You guys know this.
00:19:49.000 Ensuring that we had a process when people were going through their registration in the future, that there were processes for them to demonstrate citizenship, and importantly, for states to check their voter rolls against citizenship data.
00:20:01.000 Which they're currently prohibited from doing under federal law.
00:20:04.000 I'll come back to that in a minute.
00:20:05.000 So we fixed that.
00:20:06.000 But then enter voter ID.
00:20:08.000 We thought about putting voter ID with it two years ago, but we decided to keep it really simple, focus on citizenship.
00:20:14.000 So we passed it.
00:20:15.000 What happened?
00:20:16.000 Senate blocked it.
00:20:17.000 Even though we had four Democrats, five, I'm sorry, five join us last Congress.
00:20:21.000 We reintroduced it this Congress.
00:20:22.000 We had four Democrats join us, but it wasn't moving in the Senate because we knew that Democrats would block it.
00:20:28.000 So we've been having this debate and we said, let's add voter ID.
00:20:30.000 The president likes.
00:20:32.000 The branding of Save America.
00:20:33.000 Let's put those two together.
00:20:35.000 Let's pass that out of the House, send it to the Senate.
00:20:38.000 And with the great work of Scott Pressler, of a whole bunch of organizations, you guys, everybody else keeping the heat up, we've now got it out of the House.
00:20:44.000 We passed it through last night, had one Democrat join us, so it's still bipartisan.
00:20:49.000 It's over in the Senate.
00:20:50.000 And now Mike Lee, Scott Pressler, and others are working it hard.
00:20:54.000 And I think I just saw on Twitter or on X that 48, I think now, senators have signed on to the Save America Act, leaving only five in question.
00:21:04.000 McConnell and Murkowski have indicated they may not support it on federalism grounds, which I think is fake.
00:21:10.000 And this totally honors federalism in the Constitution.
00:21:13.000 So that's the current state of play.
00:21:14.000 Now we just got to figure out what they do in the Senate.
00:21:16.000 Yeah.
00:21:17.000 So explain you brought up two points the federalism angle, as well as, well, let's start there federalism angle, because the issue is that the Constitution gives the states the rights to the time and the place of their elections, right?
00:21:32.000 So this is kind of the angle.
00:21:34.000 What is your argument and your retort to that?
00:21:36.000 Yeah, first of all, hard to find somebody who has stood up over their life to defend states more than myself and Mike Lee, right?
00:21:44.000 We're two of the most ardent federalists up here.
00:21:46.000 When I was the first assistant attorney general in Texas, we were fighting against federal overreach.
00:21:49.000 I wrote a book with Rick Perry about federalism.
00:21:52.000 I served at the Texas Public Policy Center's 10th Amendment Center.
00:21:55.000 So I love federalism.
00:21:57.000 However, what we're talking about here is something that has very clear purview in the Constitution for us.
00:22:04.000 Stop for a minute and consider elections.
00:22:06.000 Federally, we set elections in November, right?
00:22:10.000 We don't tell states that they have to run their state elections on the same day, but they do.
00:22:16.000 That's basically what we say we're doing here.
00:22:18.000 We're setting the guardrails around things under the power of the Constitution, under the Elections Clause, under a number of the amendments that walk through, including the 14th Amendment and a whole bunch of others, that give us power, but in particular, power over dealing with the elections when it's our elections, Congress and the presidency.
00:22:37.000 It does say the states do the time, place, and manner.
00:22:40.000 But it also then says Congress can come in and do it too, explicitly in the Constitution.
00:22:45.000 So we generally defer to the states.
00:22:46.000 Like we're not telling them where the polling places have to be.
00:22:50.000 We don't tell them that their state elections have to be on a certain date, but we're saying for the federal elections, do them in November for the general election.
00:22:56.000 And now we're adding these components.
00:22:58.000 Hey, we just want to guarantee citizenship.
00:23:00.000 And the last thing, we're freeing up states to do what they want to do, but are prohibited from doing now.
00:23:06.000 So it's pro federalism.
00:23:07.000 Arizona has two ways of electing.
00:23:10.000 You guys know Arizona well.
00:23:12.000 Arizona checks citizenship for state and local, but is prohibited from doing it for federal.
00:23:18.000 So they have to run two systems and they don't check the data on federal because they're not allowed to.
00:23:23.000 The SAVE Act fixes that.
00:23:25.000 The SAVE America.
00:23:26.000 Explain that.
00:23:27.000 Yeah.
00:23:28.000 Explain the prohibition on checking citizenship on the federal level.
00:23:32.000 Where does that come from?
00:23:33.000 What law is that?
00:23:35.000 And what does it actually look like when it's enforced or in action, rather?
00:23:39.000 Yeah.
00:23:40.000 So the NVRA passed in the 90s, I can remember the acronym, National Voter Registration Act, whatever, NVRA.
00:23:46.000 That had a clause in there that was interpreted by courts, I think wrongly, but it was interpreted that way to say that the states were allowed to take their voter rolls, so, say, Arizona, take that, their list, and go, hey, we want to check that against what's called the SAVE system.
00:24:03.000 It's why we call this the SAVE Act, the SAVE system, which is the system where we have our citizenship data and make sure those are aligned.
00:24:10.000 The court said you can't do that.
00:24:12.000 So we set out to fix that.
00:24:14.000 Then we added to it additional requirements.
00:24:17.000 It says the next time you register, if you're already registered, you can go vote.
00:24:21.000 The next time you register, you move, you change your name, then you got to go and say, look, I can prove my citizenship.
00:24:26.000 Here's how I do it.
00:24:27.000 Maybe that's the state sets up a system, check roles using real ID or whatever they're doing.
00:24:31.000 Maybe it's passport.
00:24:32.000 Maybe it's your regular driver's license plus a birth certificate.
00:24:36.000 We set up other ways we give the state flexibility.
00:24:38.000 But that's what that's all about.
00:24:39.000 Check the roles, get it right.
00:24:41.000 I would argue that's deferential to states.
00:24:44.000 That's helping states do what most of them want to do.
00:24:47.000 And by the way, on the voter ID piece, 30, I think, five states, 36, 36 states have voter ID.
00:24:54.000 So we're just trying to align all of that so that all of our federal elections operate in the same framework voter ID, citizenship, and then the states are still free to set their times, where the polling is in a school, community center, wherever it is.
00:25:09.000 Well, so I want to react to something.
00:25:10.000 So, President Obama has chimed in.
00:25:13.000 He's saying Republicans are still trying to pass the Save Act, a bill that would make it harder to vote and disenfranchise millions of Americans.
00:25:19.000 Join Redistrict Act and tell your member of Congress to vote no.
00:25:23.000 And then I couldn't help but see this beautiful clip with Scott Jennings on CNN last night where chaos erupts.
00:25:31.000 I don't know if you saw this, Congressman, but it's a phenomenal clip.
00:25:34.000 I'll get your reaction on the other side 437.
00:25:37.000 He is actually championing a bill that actually would take Voting rights away from a lot of black people in this country.
00:25:44.000 Wait, what voting rights is he taking away from black voters?
00:25:48.000 Oh, if we look at the Save Act, that's exactly what we're talking about.
00:25:51.000 That is actually going to continue to disenfranchise overwhelmingly a lot of people of color.
00:25:56.000 There are so many civil rights organizations that have run the data.
00:25:59.000 If we look at the way that it is going to disenfranchise black voters, it's the same reason why Chuck Schumer called it Jim Crow 2.0.
00:26:06.000 This is the same president.
00:26:07.000 If we want to continue.
00:26:08.000 Jim said, how yet?
00:26:10.000 76% of black voters think.
00:26:11.000 We should show an ID to vote.
00:26:13.000 80% of Hispanic voters, 83% of the American people.
00:26:17.000 Are you saying that black voters should be dumb to know what's good for them?
00:26:21.000 I mean, it sounds pretty condescending, I think.
00:26:25.000 So, Abby Phillips comes in later and she says, Well, you know, the SAVE Act isn't about that.
00:26:28.000 You got to like, most people don't have their birth certificate.
00:26:31.000 Most people don't have, you know, a passport.
00:26:33.000 What's your reaction to that pushback, Congressman?
00:26:36.000 Well, first of all, good for Scott Jennings.
00:26:38.000 He's doing the right thing and pushing back, and he's making the right points, right?
00:26:42.000 But I'll make one additional point.
00:26:43.000 And using an example, and I can't remember who it was and what show did it, but somebody went out in the field and interviewed people in New York about this issue last year, I think it was.
00:26:52.000 And I've seen this out in social media.
00:26:54.000 And they asked a bunch of white liberals in Manhattan, and they said, Hey, isn't it racist?
00:27:00.000 Don't you have a problem with this?
00:27:01.000 It'd be a real problem with voter ID and these kind of rules.
00:27:04.000 And all of these white liberals said, Oh, yeah, it's terrible.
00:27:07.000 Black people, and they don't know where the DMV is, they don't often have ID, they don't have a computer, they can't get on the internet, you know, all this stuff.
00:27:13.000 Then they went up into Harlem.
00:27:16.000 And above Manhattan, and they interviewed some black Americans in Harlem and said, Hey, do you know where the DMV is?
00:27:22.000 Yeah, it's up on 128th and whatever.
00:27:25.000 Do you have an ID?
00:27:27.000 Yeah, I have an ID.
00:27:28.000 Do you use the internet and have a computer?
00:27:30.000 Yeah.
00:27:31.000 I mean, it's absurd.
00:27:33.000 It's the height of racism and condescension that these nanny state white liberals want to tell everybody how they can do things, and they say, Oh, well, you can't.
00:27:42.000 Look, I actually think the least functioning people in America are these white liberals that have been coddled all the way through their ridiculous, pampered education.
00:27:51.000 And they don't really know how to function in a normal society.
00:27:54.000 On the core issue of the SAVE Act and the voter ID, the polling is obvious.
00:27:59.000 People support it.
00:28:00.000 We worked very hard to give flexibility to states to allow this all to work.
00:28:05.000 So let's take the women's issue.
00:28:07.000 They say, well, women aren't going to be able to vote because their name changed.
00:28:09.000 First of all, it's a tiny fraction of the population who have changed, got married, their name's different, and they haven't already done all of the stuff they have to do for anything else they need.
00:28:20.000 But in that environment, we added a provision that says if you go and you have a conflict with your voter ID, you can cast a provisional ballot, sign an affidavit, and say, my name is Jennifer Smith, and I changed it to Jennifer Jones, right?
00:28:35.000 And you can sign that affidavit under penalty perjury and vote.
00:28:40.000 So you can do things that are common sense.
00:28:42.000 And the same act when we talk about proving citizenship, we have lots of different ways to do that and allow you to use lots of different forms of identification, and you can get a free copy of your birth certificate.
00:28:52.000 If you're down to that piece of the process.
00:28:56.000 So it is not a hybrid.
00:28:58.000 It's ridiculous.
00:28:59.000 Yeah, it's obscene.
00:29:00.000 I mean, I find the whole thing laughable how they're twisting themselves into pretzels to try and defend this, calling it, it's going to disenfranchise millions.
00:29:07.000 Yeah, it's going to disenfranchise millions of illegals and foreigners who shouldn't be voting in our election.
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00:30:13.000 We are with Chip Roy, Congressman from Texas, the great state of Texas.
00:30:16.000 He's also running for Attorney General.
00:30:18.000 So I wanted to keep him on for one more segment because a big part of the news today is that explosive hearing with Attorney General Pam Bondi.
00:30:27.000 You were part of that hearing.
00:30:28.000 Chip, so I'm excited to get your perspective on it.
00:30:31.000 There's a lot of news that's come out of it.
00:30:33.000 Let's go ahead and play an interaction you had with her that was related to our last segment, 440.
00:30:38.000 Am I correct that under your leadership, the Department of Justice has prosecuted cases of non citizen voting?
00:30:43.000 So it's false, as some of my Democratic colleagues have claimed, that it doesn't happen.
00:30:47.000 Yes.
00:30:48.000 I ask that today because we're voting on the Save America Act today to enact common sense policies to ensure only American citizens vote in American elections and enact federal voter ID laws.
00:30:58.000 But it's true, for example, that in just this month, A federal grand jury in Newark indicted two men with illegally voting in federal election and making false statements.
00:31:06.000 Muhammad Mazamal and Muhammad Shaquille were non citizens at the time they registered to vote.
00:31:11.000 This happens, it happens regularly, and you're prosecuting those crimes, correct?
00:31:14.000 Yes.
00:31:15.000 But does that prosecution of those criminals overturn their previously cast votes?
00:31:20.000 That's all pending.
00:31:21.000 But it does not overturn votes that they've cast, right?
00:31:24.000 So passing the same Act would help deal with that problem.
00:31:27.000 Yes, Congressman.
00:31:29.000 So there was a good interaction for her, but it was an explosive hearing.
00:31:33.000 Now you are a Turning Point Action endorsed candidate for Attorney General in the great state of Texas.
00:31:39.000 We're honored to be behind you, back you 100% of the way there, Congressman.
00:31:44.000 And everybody can support Chip's campaign.
00:31:47.000 Please chip in if you can, pun intended, I suppose.
00:31:49.000 Chiproy.com, Chiproy.com.
00:31:52.000 I think you're going to do a great job down there.
00:31:54.000 But so, you know, that was good.
00:31:57.000 But she, I mean, she's got a tough job, Congressman.
00:32:01.000 I mean, she had this interaction with Thomas Massey about the Epstein files.
00:32:05.000 Maybe just unpack how you see all that playing out.
00:32:07.000 It was some of the victims had their names were not redacted, but some of the co conspirators were redacted.
00:32:12.000 I mean, listen, I know this is weird waters to wade into, but the floor is yours.
00:32:17.000 Well, no, I appreciate it.
00:32:19.000 And first of all, I'm going to take it in series if I have a few minutes.
00:32:21.000 One, it was a very, you know, explosive hearing.
00:32:25.000 Democrats were going after her combatively, trying to attack her on the basis of what the situation is on the Epstein matter, rather than going through it logically and sort of calmly to get and elicit, I think, questions on a tough subject.
00:32:41.000 And when I got to my questions with the attorney general, I focused on a handful of things.
00:32:46.000 I wanted to set the groundwork on other issues like voter fraud, and I also talked about the extent to which they are eliminating backlogs in their immigration judges, their hearings of asylum, and all those things.
00:32:56.000 Important stuff as a baseline to show.
00:32:58.000 They're stopping crime.
00:33:00.000 They're stopping illegal aliens when they're working with DHS with their judges.
00:33:03.000 They're working to stop voter fraud.
00:33:05.000 They're doing a lot of great work.
00:33:06.000 Crime's going down.
00:33:07.000 So the baseline is America's better and safer.
00:33:10.000 But Epstein is a real issue.
00:33:12.000 We're all concerned about these power brokers and what Epstein himself did.
00:33:17.000 But I focused this way I said, one true or false, President Trump, his administration is the one that actually indicted Epstein.
00:33:25.000 Answer true.
00:33:27.000 It was President Trump's administration that indicted Jelaine Maxwell.
00:33:31.000 True.
00:33:32.000 Those two are in jail because of the first Trump term.
00:33:36.000 President Trump says, hey, we want to know all the files on this stuff.
00:33:39.000 So what happens?
00:33:40.000 Over the last year, a lot of files have gotten out.
00:33:43.000 Democrats politicized it and they wanted to push for more information.
00:33:46.000 Well, guess what?
00:33:47.000 I want to see more information.
00:33:49.000 I bet you guys want to see more information.
00:33:51.000 We don't want these power brokers to abuse underage women in a sex trafficking ring.
00:33:56.000 It's disgusting.
00:33:57.000 So the question is how?
00:33:59.000 When Congress passed the law that my friend Thomas and these other guys pushed, they did a discharge petition.
00:34:06.000 We were concerned, a lot of us, that it wasn't tightly drafted enough to ensure that victims would be protected.
00:34:13.000 So I asked the Attorney General, Bobby, I said, is it not true that we pushed to try to make that a better demand?
00:34:20.000 If Congress was going to insert itself into the prosecutorial function, which is a questionable thing to do, but you want to do it to get more information, shouldn't we have been tighter about that?
00:34:29.000 And I said, so why did you guys?
00:34:31.000 And I asked her a pointed question.
00:34:33.000 Why did you basically out some of the Jane Doe's, some of these women who were abused?
00:34:39.000 We didn't want their names out.
00:34:40.000 That was not supposed to happen.
00:34:42.000 So I pushed on her about it.
00:34:43.000 And she basically admitted we were getting 3 million files out and we didn't get it all done right.
00:34:48.000 So we're fixing it.
00:34:49.000 And when we saw some, we're fixing it.
00:34:51.000 Now, that may not be a good excuse.
00:34:52.000 I don't know.
00:34:53.000 We can debate that.
00:34:54.000 But I wanted it to be honest and open.
00:34:56.000 Last point I pushed on this question If Jelaine Maxwell was convicted for trafficking in young girls and underage girls, was it just Epstein?
00:35:05.000 Or are there others?
00:35:06.000 In other words, are you going to indict or go after anybody else?
00:35:09.000 And I was the only one that pressed her to the point to say, and she said, we have ongoing investigations on individuals that they're going to pursue further on that subject.
00:35:19.000 So look, I think they're trying to go after and seek the truth.
00:35:22.000 We have a job to push.
00:35:24.000 I'm going to try to go look at the files this afternoon.
00:35:26.000 I was going to fly home, but I could only get a spot because of the hearing and the SABAC this afternoon.
00:35:30.000 So I'm going to go over to DOJ and look at some of this stuff.
00:35:33.000 But we're trying to seek the truth wherever it may lead.
00:35:35.000 The attorney general is doing a good job stopping crime.
00:35:38.000 And I think it was a bunch of political show by Democrats trying to score political points, not actually for truth.
00:35:44.000 Yeah, and I would give her really good marks on some of her pushback, like, why didn't you do this during Biden?
00:35:51.000 You know, it's obviously a political football that they just see an opportunity now to take advantage of.
00:35:58.000 So I think that was high marks.
00:36:00.000 I think she unfortunately went a little off the rails with this, you know, mentioning the Dow Jones being over $50,000 and SP almost at $500 or $7,000.
00:36:11.000 I thought that was unfortunate.
00:36:13.000 It was kind of an unforced error there.
00:36:15.000 But to be fair to her, she's getting peppered with all these very belligerent questions again and again and again.
00:36:21.000 And I'm glad to hear that because I actually didn't see that clip.
00:36:24.000 Chip, about you, she confirmed to you that there's ongoing investigations about the co conspirators, right?
00:36:28.000 That's been a big thing on X this week that Les Wechner is now, you know, one of the files had him listed as a co conspirator.
00:36:35.000 Obviously, that's the Victoria's Secrets guy out of Ohio that gave power attorney to Epstein.
00:36:40.000 Listen, Chip, in the last minute that we have here, you are running for Attorney General of Texas.
00:36:47.000 What are your big issues, your plank issues that you're running on?
00:36:51.000 I know you're an immigration hawk like me.
00:36:53.000 That's one of the big reasons why I am very proud to support you.
00:36:56.000 But what are your big issues?
00:36:57.000 One minute left.
00:36:58.000 Yeah, I mean, one, absolutely the border.
00:37:00.000 We have to ready ourselves for the fact that President Trump's not going to be there forever.
00:37:04.000 We had him before, and then we got Biden and Majorcas, and our borders were exploited, and Americans were getting killed, and fentanyls pouring into our communities.
00:37:10.000 So we need an AG who's going to fight that and knows how to do it.
00:37:13.000 I've been winning up here on that subject.
00:37:15.000 I got to take that to Texas.
00:37:16.000 Number two, we've got to stop the Islamification of Texas.
00:37:19.000 I held a hearing two days ago where we had great witnesses who came in and talked about what was going on, founded the Sharia Free America Caucus with my fellow Texan Keith Self.
00:37:27.000 We're elevating that issue.
00:37:29.000 But we need to go to war on that when we're in Texas.
00:37:32.000 I want to get criminals off the streets, stop putting them out there with these ridiculous DAs and judges.
00:37:37.000 You got to have an AG who's been there, who's been in the courtroom, who knows the AG's office, who's unassailably conservative and can get the job done.
00:37:45.000 God's put me in that position.
00:37:46.000 I survived cancer.
00:37:47.000 I want to go out to Texas, save my state for my kids.
00:37:50.000 You know what you need to do in Texas?
00:37:51.000 You need to get these county prosecutors more in alignment with the AG's office, though.
00:37:56.000 You guys, people don't realize that Texas has the largest conservative.
00:38:00.000 Attorney's General team in the country.
00:38:05.000 So it's a huge, huge, especially if we get a Democrat back in the White House.
00:38:09.000 We need Texas to be strong.
00:38:10.000 Chip Roy, thank you.
00:38:11.000 God bless you, sir.
00:38:12.000 We'll talk to you again soon.
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