The Charlie Kirk Show - The Most Secure Theft in History

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, a bombshell poll that shows that one in five people who voted by mail cheated.

00:00:07.000 It was fraudulent.

00:00:09.000 We dive through the micro aspect of this, and then we have the person who conducted the poll joins the program, Donald from the Great Heartland Institute.

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00:02:15.000 Since the election of 2020, I remember we did a series of live streams.

00:02:20.000 Many of you probably remember we had Tyler Boyer and Austin Smith.

00:02:23.000 The numbers looked suspicious, and we came up with a term and a way to divide what happened in the 2020 election of macro versus micro.

00:02:33.000 So there's macro.

00:02:34.000 There's the Hunter Biden laptop story that was suppressed.

00:02:37.000 There's social media suppression.

00:02:38.000 There is Center for Technology and Civic Life, Mark Zuckerberg, who put $400 million into the 2020 election.

00:02:45.000 Drop boxes, 2,000 mules.

00:02:47.000 That's all macro.

00:02:48.000 By macro, I mean that there's multiple actors.

00:02:51.000 It's systemic.

00:02:52.000 It has an orchestrated type aspect to it.

00:02:57.000 There's a plan.

00:02:58.000 There's funding.

00:02:59.000 Dare I say even none dare call it a conspiracy.

00:03:03.000 The macro part of the 2020 election, which has received all of the attention, understandably, was detailed in Molly Ball's piece, the plot to save the 2020 election, when they admitted that there was a conspiracy.

00:03:16.000 Now, we've mentioned this a couple times, but I do not think this has received nearly enough attention.

00:03:22.000 And Dennis Prager, to his great credit, dear friend of mine and teacher of mine, he has been on this more than anybody else.

00:03:28.000 And he said, the aspect that we'll never know, the mystery of the 2020 election, the mystery of the 2022 election, is the micro cheating.

00:03:38.000 And micro cheating is made possible when you change election laws and you do the act when no one is watching you.

00:03:48.000 It's this amazing question.

00:03:50.000 How would you act if you were on camera, aka if you believed that God was watching and judging all of your behavior?

00:03:57.000 What would you do?

00:03:59.000 Your behavior would be a lot different.

00:04:00.000 Your behavior in private or in secret is always different than the behavior if you think other people are watching.

00:04:06.000 The way elections used to work and the way elections work in the Netherlands and the way that elections work in Japan and the way that elections even work in the United Kingdom is that you leave your home and you go to an outside location that is transparently observed by nonpartisan or bipartisan actors.

00:04:24.000 They're voting in a public setting.

00:04:27.000 One of the great tragedies of American life is taking the act of voting from the public to the private.

00:04:33.000 Now, I don't mean that you have to broadcast your vote, but there's something to say that I'm going to a place that is not my home.

00:04:40.000 I'm going to have to sign some sort of form or hopefully provide identification as if there are systems that are checking my ethics.

00:04:49.000 In public, there's much more accountability.

00:04:52.000 One person, one vote.

00:04:53.000 Hello, I am Charlie Kirk.

00:04:55.000 Okay, what is your ID?

00:04:56.000 Again, this is the ideal.

00:04:57.000 It doesn't even happen in most states.

00:04:58.000 Here is your ID.

00:04:59.000 When I grew up, and I remember my first vote I ever cast when I was 18 years old, mail and balloting was a fringe thing.

00:05:06.000 It was absentee for elderly voters or people that were traveling overseas, expats.

00:05:14.000 12 years ago, you know, you have to drive in the car and you say, hello, I'm Charlie Kirk.

00:05:18.000 And again, in Illinois, they don't ask for your ID, but you still have to sign.

00:05:22.000 And the election judge, God bless them, would compare your signature to the signature on file.

00:05:26.000 And they say, okay, here is your ballot.

00:05:27.000 And you go into a little booth and you're totally private.

00:05:31.000 But it's very hard to get widespread shenanigans.

00:05:35.000 You might get a little vote here or a corrupt election judge or somebody tabulating things wrong or a faulty machine.

00:05:42.000 But generally, you have a decentralized process to go and vote.

00:05:48.000 The Democrats hated that.

00:05:49.000 The Democrats, they knew that as long as you had to get into a car to go vote, number one, the more responsible and the more mature citizens will show up more than the irresponsible, immature citizens.

00:06:04.000 People that pay taxes, that have kids, aka advantage conservatives.

00:06:09.000 Having to go to a location to go vote and have those systems that check and balance, that have more honesty and integrity than not, it advantaged the people that work for a living, not the people that smoke weed for a living.

00:06:23.000 They said, we got to change that.

00:06:24.000 And they used COVID as a way to change it.

00:06:26.000 Georgia is a great example.

00:06:27.000 In the 2018 election, about 248,000 people in Georgia voted by mail.

00:06:35.000 In the 2020 election, 2.4 million people voted by mail.

00:06:39.000 Let me repeat it.

00:06:40.000 In Georgia, you go from 248,000 to 2.4 million, a ten-fold factor increase in two years.

00:06:51.000 So instead of going to a physical location and voting and showing an ID or at least having some signature verification, we decided to spit out ballots in every direction using COVID as an excuse.

00:07:03.000 The Democrats, they looked at this as the deathblow on the Republic.

00:07:07.000 Finally, they can shorten the enthusiasm gap.

00:07:10.000 Finally, they are able to get pieces of paper to people in private.

00:07:16.000 And who knows exactly what is going to happen.

00:07:19.000 Now, micro-cheating is impossible to prove.

00:07:24.000 A new poll is as close as we are ever going to get to proving it.

00:07:30.000 It's as close as we are ever going to get to make the argument.

00:07:34.000 Now, we know this to be true using our reason, using our common sense, using the faculties that our Lord gave us.

00:07:41.000 We know that this is happening.

00:07:42.000 But when you have millions and millions and millions of ballots that are being sent out, we're supposed to believe that every single person is acting ethically and honestly when they do that.

00:07:54.000 And I will say this.

00:07:56.000 Of course, the Democrats are going to cheat more than the Republicans.

00:08:00.000 Not that the Democrats are necessarily worse people, but conservatives would find it dirtier.

00:08:08.000 They would find it uglier to not treat the ballot as sacred or holy.

00:08:14.000 More Democrats vote by mail as we know it.

00:08:16.000 So by definition, this is advantage Democrats.

00:08:21.000 This is the new poll.

00:08:22.000 A new poll from Heartland Rasmussen finds that one in five Americans admit to engaging in behavior in 2020 that was technically election fraud.

00:08:33.000 21% of likely voters who voted by absentee or mail-in ballot in the 2020 election say they filled out a ballot in part or full on behalf of a friend or a family member.

00:08:43.000 Now, some of that is that really quote-unquote game-changing election fraud.

00:08:48.000 It's not worth barging down the door.

00:08:52.000 Well, 17% of mail-in voters say they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.

00:08:58.000 That's fraud.

00:09:00.000 But of course, our systems, our Secretary of State, say this is democracy.

00:09:03.000 No, it's the death of representative government.

00:09:06.000 19% of those who cast in mail-in votes say a friend or family member cast out their ballot in part or full.

00:09:14.000 So let me just paint this picture.

00:09:16.000 We know this is fraudulent behavior.

00:09:19.000 And how often does this happen?

00:09:20.000 Well, here's an example.

00:09:21.000 If a parent doesn't care about voting, but their college-educated kid does, and she just takes their ballots, fill them out, get them to sign them in a rush, and then drops all the ballots off, that's fraud, but it will never be caught.

00:09:33.000 The way we used to do elections is you got to go to a polling place.

00:09:38.000 And the Democrats hated that.

00:09:40.000 It took too much effort because the Democrat Party is largely, it's two groups of people, oligarchs and unsatisfied, miserable upper-middle-class, college-educated white people and permanently government-addicted underclass.

00:09:55.000 And the permanently government-addicted underclass, they tend to not work.

00:10:00.000 They tend to not have as much skin in the game.

00:10:02.000 They just want freebies.

00:10:03.000 They want free benefits.

00:10:04.000 Give me more stuff. 1.00

00:10:04.000 Give me even some people abortion. 1.00

00:10:06.000 And it's a harder lift.

00:10:08.000 It is a bigger lift to get them to go to a physical place.

00:10:12.000 Democrats said we got rid of it.

00:10:13.000 They send everyone a piece of paper.

00:10:14.000 Unregulated.

00:10:16.000 Unmonitored.

00:10:17.000 And no idea who's actually filling it out.

00:10:19.000 But this poll shows that nearly one in five of those ballots, self-admission, by the way, that means it's even higher.

00:10:27.000 This is people acknowledging and admitting they are committing felonies.

00:10:30.000 It means it's even higher.

00:10:32.000 They say that they did so fraudulently.

00:10:35.000 But there's a massive ingredient, and the Democrats are so smart.

00:10:39.000 Send ballots everywhere. 0.77

00:10:41.000 Don't watch.

00:10:42.000 Don't check signatures.

00:10:43.000 But there's another aspect of this where the media comes in.

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00:11:51.000 This argument Dennis Prager has made for a while, and it's so important, and it's impossible to prove, but we know it's happening.

00:11:58.000 And we get little glimpses here, glimpses here, glimpses there.

00:12:01.000 Again, this is not even talking about the Center for Technology and Civic Life and the drop boxes and all of that nonsense.

00:12:09.000 We're talking about a 88-year-old in Peoria, Arizona, who gets sent to ballot.

00:12:17.000 And their granddaughter, who is 21 and lesbian, purple hair, who believes Donald Trump is Hitler, goes over and visits the grandmother and says, Hey, let's vote and let's get this done with.

00:12:31.000 Oh, okay, honey, fine.

00:12:33.000 By the way, this happens all the time.

00:12:34.000 The New York Times called this granny farming.

00:12:37.000 They had a term for it called granny farming. 0.81

00:12:40.000 And the lesbian, purple-haired, anti-Trump activist young person fills out the ballot and submits it. 0.62

00:12:48.000 If you think, if you believe that you are running against Adolf Hitler, would you cheat? 0.95

00:12:59.000 Let me go a step further and be more specific. 0.71

00:13:02.000 If there was an election and you knew who Hitler was and you knew what he was planning to do and you had an opportunity to cheat in an election against Adolf Hitler, Blake, what year was an election Hitler? 0.70

00:13:17.000 33 was the last one. 0.75

00:13:18.000 33, 36?

00:13:20.000 He would know.

00:13:21.000 33.

00:13:22.000 Ah, that was right.

00:13:23.000 Okay.

00:13:24.000 Spring of 33.

00:13:25.000 See, I'm not as sharp as Blake, but can get it.

00:13:28.000 You know, stop broken clock is right twice a day.

00:13:31.000 Spring of 33. 0.81

00:13:32.000 In the election of spring of 33, which was the last election that Hitler basically conducted before cementing his power as a feud dictator, would you have cheated? 0.76

00:13:45.000 Would you, if the rules, if they had then, back then, you know, ballots going everywhere, they had a system to do that, would you, in the cover of night, illegally scooped up ballots and forged signatures to make sure that Hitler would not have become fewer of Germany? 0.86

00:14:01.000 At least you would have done your part to say that I did everything I could to prevent it and stop it. 0.86

00:14:06.000 Well, let me go a step further.

00:14:11.000 If you did not do that, I think that you're a bad person.

00:14:18.000 I think that you have a moral imperative. 0.93

00:14:21.000 If you were really, if you knew the Holocaust was coming and you had an opportunity to prevent that from happening, then you have a moral imperative to do whatever you possibly can to stop it. 0.78

00:14:35.000 And what they have done by calling Trump Hitler, and they say that Trump echoes Nazism, and there are thousands of clips that we could play, okay?

00:14:45.000 Articles, Time magazine, just here's one of many. 0.94

00:14:50.000 Then these deranged lunatics on the left have convinced themselves that they are fighting the Third Reich. 0.71

00:15:00.000 So you have millions and millions of ballots, and they justify to themselves that the cheating and the lying and the corner cutting, it's them stopping Hitler. 0.93

00:15:14.000 Play Cut 65. 0.79

00:15:16.000 People would get legitimately elected, and then they would try to do away with elections and do away with opposition and do away with a free press. 0.87

00:15:26.000 And you could see it in countries where, well, Hitler was duly elected, right?

00:15:32.000 And so all of a sudden, somebody with those tendencies, those dictatorial authoritarian tendencies, would be like, okay, we're going to shut this down.

00:15:41.000 We're going to throw these people in jail.

00:15:43.000 And they didn't usually telegraph that.

00:15:46.000 Trump is telling us what he intends to do.

00:15:51.000 So she's basically calling Trump Hitler.

00:15:53.000 And so at least a couple hundred thousand neurotic left-wing activists hear this.

00:16:00.000 And they say, we need to do everything we possibly can.

00:16:02.000 And they go scoop up ballots.

00:16:05.000 And we now know this to be true because of this.

00:16:08.000 And by the way, it can be as easy also as this.

00:16:10.000 Tyler Boyer, who runs Turning Point Action for Us, he received five ballots.

00:16:16.000 Five ballots at his home.

00:16:18.000 There's only two adults at his home.

00:16:21.000 So if you think you're running against Hitler, what do you do with those five ballots?

00:16:25.000 What do you do?

00:16:26.000 Do you only fill in the ballots that are aligned with your name? 0.88

00:16:31.000 Or do you do everything you possibly can to stop Nazism? 0.61

00:16:34.000 What I'm getting at is the media intentionally created a narrative so that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of left-wing people can rationalize their cheating. 0.60

00:16:48.000 They created the moral justification for a massive micro steal.

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00:17:35.000 Okay, joining us now is Donald Kendall, deputy director of the Heartland Institute, Heartland Institute, of course, from Chicago, Illinois, the suburbs of Chicago, on this now viral survey.

00:17:47.000 Coming clean, one in five admits the 2020 election fraud.

00:17:51.000 Donald, thank you for joining the program.

00:17:53.000 Tell us all about it.

00:17:54.000 But yes, so this poll that we did, we actually came up with this, a colleague and I came up with this idea about a month ago.

00:18:01.000 And we just, you know, we thought all the stories about potential voter fraud and all of that, mail-in balloting, the issues that are related to that.

00:18:09.000 We just thought, you know, what if we just asked people?

00:18:12.000 What if we just asked them whether or not they committed fraud?

00:18:15.000 Obviously, we wouldn't use the word fraud, but we'll just ask them if they did a series of things that would be fraudulent when it comes to mail-in balloting.

00:18:24.000 And we thought, maybe we'll get 3%, maybe we'll get 5% that would admit this, right?

00:18:29.000 Because it's a poll.

00:18:30.000 People, you get called on the phone, you ask if you did one thing or another, maybe you lie, something like that.

00:18:35.000 So maybe we get 5% of people that are going to admit to this.

00:18:39.000 And when we got the poll results back, we got the poll results back late on Friday, and we were just blown away.

00:18:45.000 We could not have imagined this in our wildest dreams.

00:18:48.000 Again, we were maybe 5%.

00:18:51.000 But when it came back and it was one in five, that it averaged out to be about 20% of people admitting to fraud when it came to mail-in balloting, we couldn't believe it.

00:19:00.000 So we were so excited to kind of release the results and see what the response would be.

00:19:05.000 And yeah, it has gone, it has gone pretty viral.

00:19:08.000 President Trump says, quote, the most important poll released in the last 20 years came out yesterday, stating that 20% of mail-in ballots in the 2020 election were rigged or defective.

00:19:17.000 Well, that's not exactly what it was, but we'll go with it.

00:19:20.000 That means that the election was a giant scam.

00:19:22.000 You cannot have fair and honest election as long as they're in mail-in ballots.

00:19:26.000 Cheating will always be prevalent.

00:19:27.000 France and many other countries have stopped the madness.

00:19:29.000 The Republican Party must do something now.

00:19:31.000 Now, I do want to hone in on this, Donald, which is that when you do have tens of millions of ballots unregulated, it does open the opportunity for people to push the boundaries and to do things that are untoward, fraudulent, or illegal, doesn't it?

00:19:48.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:19:49.000 Yeah.

00:19:49.000 And I've heard some people, it's funny because you see the first rush of people covering this story and they just report the findings of the report of the survey and say, wow, this is crazy, you know, 20%.

00:20:01.000 And then you see the second wave of kind of the left response to it.

00:20:06.000 And they're trying to dismiss it in a whole series of ways.

00:20:08.000 And maybe it's not as nefarious as you might think.

00:20:12.000 You know, oh, we've had mail-in balloting before and all of this, and it's never been an issue.

00:20:16.000 And it's just like, I don't know where these people are coming from because the mail-in balloting that we'd had prior to COVID is radically different than the system that we had set up during the 2020 election, where basically everybody was sent to ballot and everybody can vote that way.

00:20:31.000 So no doubt that was just a recipe for disaster.

00:20:35.000 And I don't think anyone's ever asked these questions and found out that, yeah, 20% of people admitting that, yeah, we didn't do this the way that you were supposed to.

00:20:43.000 So that was the system that we opened ourselves up to.

00:20:46.000 And of course, there was a lot of people speculating about potential fraud.

00:20:51.000 And I think this is one of the first polls that really highlight the reality of that situation.

00:20:55.000 Well, and then just educate our audience.

00:20:57.000 For example, if you fill out a ballot for another family member, and if they're not dehabilized, I believe the law is if they are not, let's just say, you know, pretty, let's just say have dementia, it's illegal, correct?

00:21:10.000 The only way you could do that is if you're a specific, if you like, fill out a form with the county that you can do it for a specific person.

00:21:18.000 For example, if your grandmother has Alzheimer's or something.

00:21:21.000 Is that correct?

00:21:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:24.000 And that was kind of another thing.

00:21:25.000 It was just like, well, maybe these are just maybe these are just a wife and their spouse just sitting down at the kitchen table and kind of filling it out together or something.

00:21:35.000 Maybe, you know, the husband is making dinner and his hands are dirty.

00:21:40.000 It's just like, it doesn't matter.

00:21:41.000 That's all fraud.

00:21:42.000 And it would not be the case if you actually had to go to a ballot box and vote, like how we've done for the history of this country.

00:21:50.000 You can't just bring your wife or husband into the ballot box with you.

00:21:53.000 So regardless of how you want to like twist this in any way to make it not seem as nefarious, it still boils down to fraud.

00:22:00.000 And the fact that is that these levels of fraud, 20%, and this is, I think that the numbers on this are 40% or so of people say that they voted via mail-in ballot during the 2020 election.

00:22:14.000 So 20% of that, we're talking about tens of millions of votes that were cast in an illegitimate way.

00:22:21.000 Like that is enough to sway any election in any country.

00:22:25.000 So it's really eye-opening to see these results.

00:22:28.000 So but the other number that I think is really fascinating is like, okay, let's put, first of all, this is self-reported.

00:22:28.000 Yeah.

00:22:35.000 Okay.

00:22:35.000 That's what's so incredible.

00:22:36.000 It's self-acknowledged.

00:22:40.000 Okay.

00:22:40.000 So let, yeah, let's say some of it, okay, my hands are, you know, full of marinara sauce.

00:22:44.000 I don't think it's okay, whatever, fine.

00:22:46.000 Or, you know, we're doing this collectively and you do that.

00:22:50.000 Okay, that's not smoking gun stuff.

00:22:52.000 But here's the one that I think is important.

00:22:56.000 17% of mail-in voters said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.

00:23:03.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:23:04.000 Now, this one, let's put all this other aside.

00:23:06.000 Now, this is fraud.

00:23:07.000 There is no gray area.

00:23:09.000 There is no, you know, mom had her hands full with the kids.

00:23:14.000 What is this?

00:23:15.000 17% people said they submitted fraudulent mail-in ballots.

00:23:20.000 That is illegal and traceable.

00:23:22.000 Elaborate on that.

00:23:23.000 Right.

00:23:23.000 Yes.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 And I won't name any names, but I know personally certain people that have done this, maybe not in this past election, but they move and maybe they're not registered in the current state.

00:23:34.000 So they think, oh, you know, the morality of this is fine.

00:23:37.000 I'm just going to cast a ballot in the state that I used to live in.

00:23:40.000 That's fraud.

00:23:41.000 And the other thing, like, okay, so we had that one.

00:23:43.000 We had the somebody filled it out for you, or you filled it out for somebody else.

00:23:47.000 None of these are necessarily like completely overlapping.

00:23:52.000 So the real number of this could be much higher than 20%.

00:23:56.000 You know, just somebody committing one of these levels of fraud.

00:23:59.000 And not only that, and as you kind of pointed out when you're phrasing that question, this is people admitting to it.

00:24:06.000 So surely you can imagine somebody that, you know, gets a call from Rasmussen asking them these questions.

00:24:13.000 And they're like, you know what, maybe I shouldn't admit to this.

00:24:15.000 But can you imagine somebody that's just lying and saying that they did commit fraud?

00:24:19.000 I think that's probably a lot lesser on when you're to show they don't know it's illegal.

00:24:26.000 That's what's amazing.

00:24:27.000 I mean, otherwise.

00:24:28.000 Exactly.

00:24:28.000 And that's how we phrase the questions.

00:24:30.000 We just ask them, did you do this?

00:24:32.000 You know, not saying that it's necessarily bad or fraudulent or anything.

00:24:36.000 Just did you do this?

00:24:37.000 We're just curious.

00:24:39.000 So that's why people are a little more candid with their response.

00:24:42.000 So 17% of mail-in voters said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer permanent residents.

00:24:48.000 So these are people that left the state and they still have access or they're visiting the state casually.

00:24:54.000 Like build out what that is exactly.

00:24:57.000 I mean, you said you know someone maybe in Illinois that does this.

00:25:00.000 What is this archetype?

00:25:01.000 Somebody that recently moved their family and they're still getting ballots or they have two properties or a vacation home.

00:25:06.000 Is that correct?

00:25:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:08.000 Any one of those is definitely a case.

00:25:10.000 I mean, even in some cases, when you have just your mail forwarded from your past address and now it's coming to your current residence.

00:25:17.000 So, I mean, there's any number of scenarios like that.

00:25:21.000 But yeah, that, I mean, you honed in on it.

00:25:23.000 Well, hold on.

00:25:26.000 I got to interrupt.

00:25:27.000 So let's pretend that you're in the Maricopa County assessor.

00:25:30.000 You're trying to tell me there might be ballots that are postmarked that have a stamp of another state.

00:25:36.000 Well, I mean, I'm not entirely sure about that.

00:25:39.000 I'm just saying to ask, right?

00:25:42.000 It'd be like, is somebody sending in a ballot from LA?

00:25:45.000 Probably.

00:25:45.000 Well, it's very curious because I had just heard from a different colleague when we were talking about some of this when the poll results came in that the rejection rate of these mail-in ballots was like less than a half a percent or something like that.

00:25:58.000 And I just wonder, like, how egregious must have those ballots been to have been rejected if all of these one in five were accepted.

00:26:06.000 So I don't know what the, you know, what it kind of takes to have a ballot rejected, but it seems like it's a pretty high bar, if I had to guess, especially in certain counties, like you were saying.

00:26:16.000 But we're told this is the most secure election in history.

00:26:20.000 What does your data tell us?

00:26:22.000 Exactly.

00:26:23.000 Yeah.

00:26:23.000 I mean, that has been the narrative.

00:26:25.000 In fact, if you, especially after what happened with Trump and everything, if you even question, if you even question the legitimacy of this election, you are subject to being shadow banned or deplatformed or any number of things.

00:26:41.000 And this shows very clearly that this election should be looked at very critically, especially when we're doing this mass mail-in balloting, which has not been done before.

00:26:52.000 And to just assume that it was all great and everyone played by the rules, I think it's just incredibly naive and just serves the agenda of maybe the administration that took office.

00:27:02.000 So we've all been told that we shouldn't be looking under the under the you know under the hood of this election.

00:27:09.000 And I really think that this poll was one of the first ones that really did just pop open that hood and see what's going on in that engine.

00:27:16.000 And clearly it's not good.

00:27:18.000 And in some states, it's getting even worse, right?

00:27:21.000 It's getting even worse with the proliferation of mail-in ballots.

00:27:25.000 Among all voters, mail-in person, 11% said a family member, friend, or co-worker, other acquaintances, and minutes of them, they filled out a ballot on behalf of another person.

00:27:33.000 So 11% of people know other people that are cheating.

00:27:36.000 So this is just like a massive fraudulent exercise, isn't it?

00:27:40.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:27:42.000 And I really wonder, I think Trump mentioned this in one of his posts about this, that it's like, you know, the Republicans have to do something about it.

00:27:50.000 And obviously, this kind of starts at the state level to kind of clean up your election rules when it comes to your state.

00:27:56.000 We're out of the pandemic, right?

00:27:59.000 The COVID mass hysteria is over.

00:28:02.000 Let's go back to voting how we normally do.

00:28:05.000 I think that is the clear takeaway from this.

00:28:09.000 Donald, stay right there.

00:28:10.000 I want to talk to you after the break.

00:28:11.000 By the way, it would be probably helpful for people to run PSAs saying, hey, if you're filling out a ballot, that is illegal and you might be prosecuted.

00:28:19.000 Okay.

00:28:20.000 What have we not covered here that you think, or have do you think we've covered all the numbers here?

00:28:25.000 Big takeaways.

00:28:26.000 We only have a couple minutes.

00:28:27.000 Your thoughts?

00:28:29.000 Yeah, no, I think we covered most of the numbers.

00:28:32.000 And of course, if you want to see more information on it, you can go to heartland.org.

00:28:36.000 You'll find it right on the front of the page there.

00:28:39.000 But I actually had a question for you on this, Charlie, because I was wondering about, especially considering just the outrageous numbers, do you think that this goes to, this could potentially exonerate Trump in any way on some of the charges that he's facing when it comes to election fraud denial?

00:28:56.000 Yeah, I mean, the charges are not necessarily on, I mean, it's we have yet to see.

00:29:01.000 I mean, I think this is big enough where this should create a mass movement to fix mail-in ballots once and for all.

00:29:08.000 It's not going to, because what they do is they create rationalization campaigns by saying that Donald Trump is Hitler.

00:29:16.000 And if everyone gets, you know, it's my dirty little secret that I got sent in three ballots and I filled all three in, right?

00:29:23.000 It's my dirty little secret that my grandmother, who is now blind or 95 years old, and she tells me to go vote for Trump and I fill out Biden, right?

00:29:32.000 You know, something like that.

00:29:34.000 And by the way, granny farming is not a term I like, but the New York Times used it.

00:29:39.000 Okay.

00:29:39.000 The New York Times had it as a term 10 years ago, which young activists would go to nursing homes or old people's homes and scoop up ballots and fraudulently forge their will and their intent.

00:29:53.000 So this is a major, but this would not be a problem if we had voting the way it used to be and they don't want it to be that way.

00:30:00.000 Exactly.

00:30:01.000 Yeah.

00:30:01.000 I think it's almost like, you know, and you're joking about the idea of voter suppression or just warning people about the rules associated with it.

00:30:10.000 Yeah, no, right.

00:30:11.000 I know.

00:30:12.000 But that, that, could you imagine, you know, politicians coming out now and saying, you know what, maybe this mail-in balloting thing, we don't need to do it anymore.

00:30:20.000 Like that's going to rain down the same calls of so-called voter suppression.

00:30:24.000 So I think the longer you wait, in fact, I think the worse that those calls will be.

00:30:28.000 So I mean, to kind of quote Trump, it's like now would be the time to do something about this.

00:30:34.000 You can't wait any longer.

00:30:35.000 If you want to reel in mail-in balloting, now is the time.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, I guess my question would be, and it'd be for a lawyer, do you think that this poll is evidence enough to start filing lawsuits to say that, hey, that the will of the people are being thwarted or that there's, I mean, if you have one out of five ballots being fraudulently self-acknowledged, you know, self-admission that it's being fraudulently filled out, wouldn't that be enough for some sort of a civil challenge?

00:31:02.000 Maybe.

00:31:03.000 I don't know.

00:31:03.000 I'm not a lawyer.

00:31:04.000 I'm not a lawyer either, but hey, you know what?

00:31:07.000 Throw something against the wall and see what sticks.

00:31:09.000 And in fact, some of the responses I've seen from the left that are trying to like dismiss some of the things that were some of the findings in this poll, my gut reaction is like, then conduct a different poll.

00:31:20.000 See if your poll is going to find a lower number than this because I'll challenge all of those people to see if your results come back and it shows a much lower percentage.

00:31:31.000 And then I wonder: what's a low enough percentage where this doesn't become an issue?

00:31:34.000 Obviously, 20% is like headline-grabbing stuff, but are they content with 10%?

00:31:40.000 Well, put all the other numbers aside.

00:31:42.000 We have 17% of mail-in votes, according to you guys, where they don't even live where they're voting.

00:31:49.000 Right.

00:31:49.000 It's unbelievable stuff.

00:31:50.000 Like I said, you have people voting for governors that aren't their governor.

00:31:54.000 I just want everyone to understand that.

00:31:56.000 So let's round down, okay?

00:31:58.000 Let's round down.

00:32:00.000 So in Arizona, there's roughly about 5 million, 6 million ballots cast.

00:32:07.000 It's like 4.6 million.

00:32:08.000 Okay.

00:32:09.000 So 70% of people vote by mail in Arizona.

00:32:12.000 All right.

00:32:13.000 So that's 2.6 million, 2.7 million.

00:32:16.000 I'm just approximating.

00:32:18.000 Okay.

00:32:18.000 So let's say it's 10%.

00:32:19.000 That means 270,000 people vote and they don't even live in the state that could determine the future of the republic.

00:32:26.000 That's according to your data.

00:32:27.000 I'm routing down.

00:32:28.000 I'm rounding down, by the way, by 7.0.

00:32:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:32.000 We were actually discussing in the office yesterday the idea of doing some like analysis of all of the results that we come in and kind of extrapolating.

00:32:41.000 Admittedly, it'd be a little bit of a kind of a back of the envelope, sort of extrapolating this data across the states and see what the real kind of election outcomes would be if all of these fraudulent mail-in ballots were discarded.

00:32:54.000 And my hypothesis is that that election map, that electoral map at the end of the day would look very different of what the final one was on Election Day in 2020.

00:33:05.000 Great.

00:33:05.000 Thank you so much, Donald.

00:33:06.000 Great work.

00:33:07.000 Appreciate it.

00:33:07.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:09.000 Thank you for having me.

00:33:10.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast.

00:33:13.000 A pro-Hamas mob, by the way, has just shut down the 110 freeway in Los Angeles. 0.57

00:33:18.000 It's just, these people are unbelievable.

00:33:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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00:33:24.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 13, 2023

The Most Secure Theft in History

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