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00:00:15.000We give you the update that you need to hear.
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00:02:04.000And by the way, if you just Google Nebraska winner take all, it's everywhere.
00:02:10.000And that's a really interesting indication that the regime media, the mainstream press, they know this is a serious risk come November 5th.
00:02:20.000So Malia, walk us through the updates.
00:02:22.000There was a huge meeting on Wednesday.
00:02:24.000We've covered it some, but from the insider's perspective, tell us what happened.
00:02:29.000Well, obviously all of this started back in this spring when Charlie and Blake really just did a deep dive here on the show and said it very well could come down to Nebraska's second congressional district.
00:02:41.000So Charlie came out, we had a big rally, and the position then was similar to the governor's position now to where he said, you know, we're not going to call a special session until we have the 33 votes.
00:02:54.000And it was really at a standstill for a few months.
00:02:56.000And then Charlie just came back out this past weekend and there has been a lot of movement since then.
00:03:05.000There have been shifts in some of the kind of strong holdouts of senators who were adamant no's.
00:03:12.000Who have gone from an adamant no to a maybe, which in and of itself, like I know you mentioned yesterday on the show, Mike McDonald, who was a Democrat is now a Republican Senator.
00:03:24.000Him even saying that he's willing to come to an agreement, wants to find a way to get to that yes vote.
00:03:32.000A couple of the other senators who maybe weren't so keen on the idea seem to have really come around.
00:03:39.000Senator Lindsey Graham coming out to the state meeting with a lot of our state legislators.
00:03:44.000I have heard from inside the Capitol has moved the needle significantly.
00:03:48.000And I think a lot of the state legislators are getting to a point where they realize the urgency and almost the gravity of what this vote could mean, not just for Nebraska, but Yeah, I want to drill down on McDonald specifically.
00:04:06.000So for people who don't know or are not aware, people speculate he wants to become mayor of Omaha.
00:04:13.000I don't know if he's publicly stated that or if that's speculation.
00:04:17.000He's a lifelong Democrat who switched to the Republican Party earlier in the year.
00:04:25.000So he's now, people describe it that he's maybe kind of between a rock and a hard place a little bit in the sense that he wants to be the mayor.
00:04:33.000But he also understands that being, you know, a no vote on this winner take all could put him at odds with his new Republican friends.
00:04:41.000But what we're seeing and what I'm hearing in Kind of reading the tea leaves here, is that he's telling people behind the scenes that I was misunderstood when I said I was always going to be a no on this vote.
00:04:53.000He's now sort of moved to a more open-minded posture.
00:04:57.000Pillan has praised his thoughtfulness.
00:04:59.000From everything I've heard, the Republicans that are talking to him behind the scenes call him like a really, really thoughtful guy, that he's working in good faith, and he's looking for ways to become a yes.
00:05:15.000The reason that Senator McDonnell left the Democrat Party was because of how radical they had become.
00:05:22.000He is, you know, very, very akin to your RFK Jr., your Tulsi Gabbard types, who they care about the rule of law.
00:05:30.000They care about our country and the values that we were founded on.
00:05:33.000You know, we might have a little bit different ideas of how to attain those goals, but He's definitely not your radical progressive type at all.
00:05:44.000That's one of his, one of the reasons that he switched parties to begin with was because the Democrats were so adamantly, adamantly anti-life.
00:06:07.000Why his vote in particular is so important, Malia?
00:06:12.000Where we're at right now, and kind of has always been the case thus far, we can get to the 31 vote threshold.
00:06:21.000There have really been kind of two holdouts this whole time, Senator McDonald being one of them.
00:06:26.000And so for Senator McDonald to even be willing to come to the table and try to reach a yes vote, saying he's open-minded, he's willing to work with the party to get there, him saying that, really sets a precedent for the other holdouts, whether it's just that singular other adamant no, or whether it's some of the others who are kind of just banding with the no votes thus far, which is kind of what we've seen.
00:06:55.000If Senator McDonnell changes his tune on this issue and is willing to get to that yes, that That really kind of encourages the other senators to follow in line with that.
00:07:08.000So we need one more on top of McDonald's.
00:07:16.000Last weekend, as we were talking about it, before Charlie came and was having a lot of those meetings, the count definitively that we were at was 28.
00:07:27.000there were three votes that were kind of only no votes because there were other no votes.
00:07:32.000So if those two votes, Senator McDonnell being one of them, if those two votes switch to yes,
00:07:38.000assuming that's how it goes, then the other three would likely band with the senators as well.
00:07:47.000This is a very plausible election map, right?
00:07:51.000So this is assuming that Kamala and the Dems sweep the Rust Belt, the blue wall, so to speak, that's Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and hold Virginia, which is an open question as well, but let's just assume it, and that Trump-Vance sweep the Sun Belt, which structurally is very likely.
00:08:12.000Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina.
00:08:16.000So if that scenario plays out, The way it's currently constructed, Kamala Harris would become the next president of the United States.
00:08:24.000However, if Nebraska—and that's assuming that Nebraska, too, goes Democrat, which Biden won in 2020—if Nebraska goes win or take all, that would push it to a 269-269, and then it would leave it to the House of Representatives to adjudicate.
00:08:41.000And since Republicans control more state delegations, That would likely result in a Trump presidency.
00:08:49.000And one last pitch here, Malia, for McDonald.
00:08:52.000If he is pro-life, then ensuring that President Trump is in the White House by way of any two going to win or take all, It absolutely advances some of that.
00:09:03.000And I would also say he's a labor leader in Omaha.
00:09:17.000I think that the senators have really come to understand how influential this could be on the national election.
00:09:25.000I don't think that anyone had really laid it out for them prior that it very well could come down to Nebraska's second congressional district.
00:09:33.000I think, you know, having RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, a lot of these traditional Democrats coming on board and really selling the idea that Trump is the unity ticket plays well.
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00:16:12.000All right, so I am very much looking forward to this next conversation.
00:16:18.000You have this piece up, the title of it I think is provocative, it says, it's not just Haitians in Springfield, mass immigration is destroying the American nation.
00:16:39.000But John, we're a nation of immigrants, and it's part of the fabric of the American history tradition to be a nation welcoming of immigrants.
00:16:48.000And so aren't you just a big, giant racist?
00:16:56.000We are a nation of immigrants trope is a misdirection, I think.
00:17:01.000Yes, we're a nation of immigrants, starting with the Puritans, going all the way through the 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st century.
00:17:13.000The key, though, is that what we forget when we talk about us being a nation of immigrants, we're a nation of immigrants in which the immigrants assimilated to our sort of American culture, folkways and way of life.
00:17:27.000And that's a culture and a way of life we inherited from the English.
00:17:31.000Okay, so that that's the the fundament that the foundation of American culture is English culture.
00:17:37.000And I'm not the first person to say this is a well established reality, right.
00:17:42.000And so subsequent waves of immigration, whether we're talking about The Germans or the Irish that came in the 19th century or subsequent waves of immigration.
00:17:52.000All those immigrants were expected to assimilate to the dominant mainstream American culture, which is a culture based on Judeo-Christian Western civilization and embodying unique American values that we have worked out in our Bill of Rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, Tolerance and kind of an open and free society.
00:18:16.000Those are the kinds of things that all immigrant waves were expected to adopt and take on as their own, including most basically the English language.
00:18:25.000And almost none of that happens nowadays.
00:18:28.000These waves of immigrants we're seeing now, the largest wave of immigration we've ever seen in American history under the Harris-Biden administration.
00:18:36.000No amount of assimilation is required or requested from these people.
00:18:42.000And I think John, you're getting to something that we as a country no longer have the confidence of our own convictions or our own values and traditions to assert.
00:18:52.000And to demand assimilation from newcomers.
00:18:55.000And I think a lot of us find that really appalling.
00:18:57.000I think ultimately, you know, to the point of your headline here in this story, it's not about pets.
00:19:06.000Underlying all of that is this cultural collision that we are experiencing I think the bleed has been happening for decades now to the point where we've lost the courage of our own value system.
00:19:21.000And so I completely agree on this show.
00:19:23.000We completely agree with what you're saying.
00:19:25.000But I want to, I want to address another talking point here that we all encounter with this, but, but John, they're just here to work and this is, this is really good for the GDP and it's going to grow our economy.
00:19:37.000And, and John, they're taking jobs Americans don't want.
00:19:42.000Yeah, no, you hear this talking point a lot.
00:19:44.000And you know, the unfortunate reality about our immigration debate is that we can't get beyond this idea of, you know, the talking point on the one hand of securing the border, it's all about the border, right?
00:19:57.000And on the other hand, we can't when it comes to legal immigration, we can't get beyond this talking point of like, oh, it's good for the economy, it's good for GDP, it's just a numbers game.
00:20:07.000My response to that, and I say so in the piece, is that America is not just a tax farm for a global empire.
00:20:35.000But it's taken on this outsized, swollen, grotesque proportions and come to dominate our immigration debate as though we're all just cogs in a GDP machine.
00:20:47.000And that's not what a nation or people are.
00:21:09.000Certainly, that's the only thing Democrats talk about.
00:21:12.000But, you know, it's also the only thing like libertarians and a lot of establishment Republicans want to talk about either is how this will affect the tax rate.
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00:23:27.000And then I want to play this clip here because I think it illustrates what you're talking about, this collision of cultures and different backgrounds, Western culture versus whatever Haiti has or Liberia or whatever.
00:23:42.000This is a story from a resident of Ohio, or Springfield, Ohio, that says her daughter was chased down the street by a machete-wielding immigrant. 114.
00:24:12.000She told them what had happened and wanted to file a report.
00:24:16.000Two hours later, the police still had not called her back and never checked on the crime.
00:24:22.000So that's how you know there's no crime in Springfield, because no one's reporting it.
00:24:28.000And I do want to play his reaction here, John.
00:24:31.000I'll get your take on the other side of this.
00:24:34.000See, here's the thing, and it's uncomfortable to say this, but it's true.
00:24:39.000If your first act of entering the country breaks the law, Then you're more likely to break the law when you're already here.
00:24:47.000And we say that, you know, that's a difficult situation, but you deal with it in a different way.
00:24:50.000And so I think we have to restore the culture of the rule of law in this country.
00:24:55.000In this town alone, double the number of shoplifting crimes in the last two years.
00:25:05.000Two years is not a long time for shoplifting rates to double.
00:25:09.000Auto thefts are up by over 50% in that same time frame.
00:25:13.000And as you said, based on your daughter's story, that's against the backdrop of many of them likely even going unreported.
00:25:20.000John, why I like this clip so much is it shows the degradation of the quality of life, the expectations that we all hold as Americans of what we can expect on a daily basis.
00:25:31.000And this confrontation with this 20,000 strong community of Haitians that just came in has absolutely deteriorated the life of regular, ordinary, everyday Americans.
00:25:44.000Yeah, I want to be clear on something and I mentioned this in my piece.
00:25:47.000I'm not saying that people from different parts of the country, from parts of the world, I should say different parts of the world, not Western Europe, can't come to America and become good Americans.
00:26:00.000That's been a part of our history since the beginning.
00:26:03.000And so obviously Vivek Ramaswamy is a great example of that.
00:26:07.000You know, he's a great American, and he has assimilated.
00:26:11.000And as you say, he bleeds red, white, and blue.
00:26:13.000But it matters what the countries are, where people come from.
00:26:18.000As a country, our immigration policy should be to limit the number of people who come to our country from places like Haiti, which is a dysfunctional country with a very degraded culture, where cultures of crime are rampant in Haiti, lawlessness.
00:26:38.000I mean, the place is ruled by cannibalistic warlords.
00:26:42.000The majority religion there is voodoo.
00:26:46.000We should limit the number of Haitian immigrants or asylum seekers or parolees that we allow into the country.
00:26:55.000And that's true of a whole host of nations, right?
00:26:58.000We should also limit the number of Chinese immigrants simply for national security reasons.
00:27:03.000There's a whole range of reasons and we used to understand this as a nation.
00:27:07.000We used to limit and discriminate between countries because we want to preserve our culture and our way of life and we want to look after our security and we want to look after our people.
00:27:19.000Under the Biden-Harris administration, under the Democrats, They literally let in almost anybody who manages to sneak across the Rio Grande and then legalize them after the fact.
00:27:32.000I'm in the camp of long-standing believing that the United States of America is not a racist country and the least racist country known to mankind.
00:27:40.000I have never experienced that type of invidious racism growing up.
00:27:44.000There's something going on in the country right now.
00:27:46.000When I say right now, I'm talking like the last 9 to 12 months in this country.
00:27:51.000There is a weird uptick in racial tension in this country that did not exist in the 30 years that I grew up.
00:28:26.000There's no better way to create racism in America, anywhere, than to take something else away from someone's family because of their skin color.
00:28:37.000So whether it's a seat in college, or whether it's a job, or now even forms of federal aid under the likes of Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris, say that you only get certain forms of aid if you're a racial minority, if you're black or Hispanic.
00:28:50.000That actually creates more racial animus in response.
00:28:54.000And so this is what I think many people on the right sometimes miss, which is that, are these anti-racist programs, are they racist against whites or Asians?
00:29:05.000They are, but actually it's not just that it's Racist against whites and racist against Asians.
00:29:11.000It is literally fueling a new wave of anti-black racism in the country that otherwise would not have exist if it weren't for those woke anti-racist policies in the first place.
00:29:28.000Him being a person of color, I think, added special significance.
00:29:31.000John, I want to get into this topic of legalization because the big talking point from the media and from Democrats is, you stop calling them illegal Haitians in Springfield or wherever they might be.
00:29:44.000John, explain why that is a little bit misleading, to say the least.
00:29:50.000Yeah, it's misleading because a lot of these stations are here under a program called Temporary Protected Status or TPS.
00:29:57.000TPS was created in 1990 under the George H.W.
00:30:02.000Bush administration and it was originally supposed to be a program to give relief to small numbers of people in other countries who had suffered some sort of natural disaster or were fleeing from like a war, like war refugees.
00:30:18.000And the idea, even in its name, temporary protected status meant they could come here and take refuge temporarily in the United States until they recovered from the hurricane or the war ended, right?
00:30:32.000That program started in 1990, never went away.
00:30:38.000The original group of people who the program was targeted to were added to.
00:30:45.000You know, every couple years a new natural disaster or a new economic crisis or a new fighting would break out here or there.
00:30:53.000And so we've just added people to the TPS program year over year so that now people in the TPS program have been living in the United States for decades and decades.
00:31:07.000During the Trump administration, Trump tried to end TPS for, I think it was 200,000 Salvadorans.
00:31:15.000who were given TPS after an earthquake in El Salvador in 2001, something like that, decades ago.
00:31:22.000And his own administration, the bureaucrats inside DHS that were tasked with doing this, slow-walked it to allow for left-wing activist groups to sue the administration and tie it up in the courts until Trump left office
00:31:36.000and then the Biden administration immediately rescinded that Trump order.
00:31:39.000And those hundreds of thousands of Salvadorans who have been in the TPS program for 20 years
00:32:10.000Take them to Customs and Border Protection, and then Customs and Border Protection will use something called paroling, which used to be very limited case-by-case basis, and just parole them off into the United States with a request to appear before an immigration judge in like three or four years.
00:32:26.000And that's been used now on a mass scale.
00:32:30.000Like, mass numbers of people have been paroled into the country.
00:32:36.000They were arrested by Border Patrol agents with guns.
00:32:39.000They were detained and put into detention and processed before through this bureaucratic order made possible through Joe Biden's executive orders.
00:32:49.000They're just being paroled off into the country.
00:32:51.000Technically, those people are supposed to be in deep deportation proceedings, and they used to be deported.
00:33:11.000If you become the vice president under a Trump administration, what will you guys do about the migrants that are already there since they did arrive legally?
00:33:20.000And a follow-up to that, if you plan to deport them, how would you do that legally?
00:33:26.000Well look, this is a media and Kamala Harris fact check that I want to clarify and clear up right now.
00:33:35.000Now the media loves to say that the Haitian migrants, hundreds of thousands of them by the way, 20,000 in Springfield but hundreds of thousands of them all across our country, they are here legally.
00:33:45.000And what they mean is that Kamala Harris used two separate programs, mass parole and temporary protective status.
00:33:52.000She used two programs to wave a wand and to say, we're not going to deport those people here.
00:33:58.000Well, if Kamala Harris waves the wand illegally and says these people are now here legally, I'm still going to call them an illegal alien.
00:34:05.000And illegal action from Kamala Harris does not make an alien legal.
00:34:19.000The administrative state and administrative bureaucracy in the executive branch has been used for decades to subvert what's actually our immigration written law.
00:34:29.000And DHS has so much discretion to just parole people off or to wave a wand, as he says, and grant them temporary status.
00:34:37.000We need to overhaul our immigration law completely and mass deportations.