The Charlie Kirk Show - January 05, 2023


The Never-Ending Speaker Saga with Newt Gingrich


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00:00:00.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk show, the latest of the House floor drama, Newt Gingrich helps us unpack that.
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00:01:15.000 Right now, there are speeches in favor of Kevin McCarthy that are happening right now in the House vote.
00:01:23.000 So basically where it goes right now is there are 20 people, 20 Republicans that are withholding any support whatsoever for Kevin McCarthy.
00:01:32.000 Several of them are going to join our program.
00:01:35.000 We have Mike Gallagher again from Wisconsin, who is giving a speech in favor of Kevin McCarthy.
00:01:41.000 This is a great way to get me not in favor of your cause.
00:01:45.000 As Gallagher gave a speech yesterday, he said, look, there's a lot that we disagree with.
00:01:49.000 We want to be energy and upon all this, but we can all agree with the Democrats that we need to fight our enemies abroad.
00:01:55.000 And I was like, oh man, this is just another virtue signaling towards Ukraine.
00:01:59.000 It drives me nuts.
00:01:59.000 So I would have this guy to stop talking.
00:02:02.000 I would not have him as the lead act.
00:02:05.000 Not exactly helpful, but especially for those of us that, I don't know, want our own borders secure while we fund border security of Tunisia, Lebanon, Syria, and Pakistan.
00:02:15.000 All right.
00:02:16.000 So there are 20 Republicans that are saying, I am not going to give any support whatsoever to Kevin McCarthy.
00:02:26.000 It seems as if, though, the McCarthy team gave a very generous deal last evening.
00:02:32.000 A deal that would include representation on the rules committee, a deal that would include a prohibition from engaging in primaries.
00:02:41.000 I'm going to talk about that and what that actually concretely can mean if these deals are going to be followed through upon, if they are built on actual trust, if they're not just being said for the sake of trying to get a deal done so that one could become Speaker of the House.
00:02:56.000 These are all very, very big ifs.
00:02:58.000 One, two, three, four, five ifs.
00:03:00.000 There are also negotiations on house floor votes on the Texas border plan on getting a house floor vote on term limits.
00:03:07.000 If I were advising the McCarthy team, I would say just give those away.
00:03:11.000 Those mean nothing.
00:03:12.000 I mean, you should have you should have House floor votes on term limits anyway.
00:03:16.000 And so basically, here's what some of the concessions are, basically what they involve in.
00:03:21.000 So, or what are involved in some of the concessions.
00:03:25.000 Essentially, the sticking point was first on the motion to vacate.
00:03:29.000 Kevin McCarthy said, I don't want any motion to vacate.
00:03:32.000 Well, now they're probably going to get a one-a-single vote motion to vacate against the Speaker of the House.
00:03:38.000 Okay, so that's a concession.
00:03:40.000 Another concession is Kevin McCarthy's very powerful, well-funded super PAC that was involved in, by the way, let's take one race that it was very involved in that I was very fired up about that I didn't like was when Kevin McCarthy came in and spent millions of dollars against Caroline Levitt.
00:03:59.000 You guys remember Caroline Levitt?
00:04:01.000 Caroline Levitt, he came in against Mowers and in favor of Mowers and spent a bunch of money with Caroline Levitt.
00:04:07.000 Caroline Levitt won, but one of the reasons she was unable to be successful in the general is that there was so much money spent against her in that late primary.
00:04:16.000 One of the concessions that was made by Kevin McCarthy's super PAC was that they're no longer going to get involved in safe Republican primaries like they did with Caroline Levitt.
00:04:30.000 He also did the same thing with Anthony Sabatini, amongst many other people.
00:04:35.000 And so that, if that ends up materializing into reality, that is a major victory.
00:04:42.000 Now, again, there's a lot of ifs and trusts and one-offs and all of that.
00:04:46.000 So, but if that is legitimate, that's a huge win to say that McCarthy will not involve himself in safe Republican primaries.
00:04:56.000 There are also some concessions that McCarthy is making on allowing more Freedom Caucus members to serve on the very powerful House Rules Committee.
00:05:05.000 That is a fabulous victory.
00:05:08.000 In Newt Gingrich's time, in Newt Gingrich's time as Speaker, the most conservative members were not on the House Rules Committee.
00:05:16.000 And then finally, promising to vote on some bills like term limits and border security, that should happen no matter what.
00:05:22.000 That is, I have very little patience whatsoever for that not to occur.
00:05:27.000 Okay, I want to cut to this feed in just a second.
00:05:29.000 I'm curious who is going to nominate amongst the 20 if they are going to go through a roll call vote.
00:05:39.000 If any of them are going to vote present and or in favor of Kevin McCarthy, let's cut to C-SPAN here.
00:05:44.000 This is going to tell us a lot about the spirit and the momentum behind some of these negotiations.
00:05:50.000 Let's cut to C-SPAN.
00:05:52.000 Yesterday, my first vote for Speaker of the House was for Byron Donalds.
00:05:59.000 Today, I'm rising to nominate Byron Donalds for Speaker of the House of Representatives.
00:06:12.000 Byron is a dear friend, a solid conservative, but most importantly, a family man who loves dearly his wife Erica, his three children, has a proven track record as a businessman, public service in the Florida legislature, and now is a member of the United States Congress.
00:06:38.000 Now, here we are, and for the first time in history, there have been two black Americans placed into the nomination for Speaker of the House.
00:06:59.000 However, Madam Speaker, order.
00:07:06.000 Or Madam Clerk, order.
00:07:09.000 We do not seek to judge people by the color of their skin, but rather the content of their character.
00:07:17.000 Byron Donalds.
00:07:25.000 That's a little bit of a repeat of yesterday.
00:07:27.000 That goes to show that negotiations are ongoing.
00:07:29.000 So I don't mean to bury the lead.
00:07:32.000 I don't mean to leave you in suspense.
00:07:36.000 Kevin McCarthy is not going to win this speaker vote right now.
00:07:40.000 Is this number seven or eight?
00:07:41.000 I can't remember.
00:07:42.000 Is this number eight?
00:07:43.000 So the fact that Chip Roy is nominating Byron Donalds means that this particular carousel of voting is going to be unsuccessful for Kevin McCarthy.
00:07:54.000 Now, someone says here, Charlie, lots of swear words in this email.
00:07:58.000 Screw you.
00:07:58.000 You support Kevin McCarthy.
00:08:00.000 You're part of the problem.
00:08:01.000 Kevin McCarthy's a lying rhino SOB.
00:08:03.000 Stop supporting this scumbag, sincerely, Mike Francis.
00:08:06.000 Understand the energy.
00:08:08.000 I understand the vim and vigor there.
00:08:10.000 However, let's be accurate about what I support.
00:08:13.000 I support concessions to make the most conservative Congress in American history.
00:08:17.000 That's what I support.
00:08:19.000 I don't support a person.
00:08:22.000 I don't support an individual.
00:08:24.000 I instead support rules committee, steering committee.
00:08:30.000 I support staying out of primaries.
00:08:31.000 I support floor votes.
00:08:33.000 I support Jim Jordan as the head of judiciary.
00:08:37.000 That I support.
00:08:38.000 So let's just make sure my position is clear.
00:08:40.000 I support the movement, the progress, the success that is almost materializing in what could be the most conservative House of Representatives in American history.
00:08:54.000 I understand.
00:08:55.000 I'm not even going to say that the swear words of calling me a traitor and all that.
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00:10:25.000 Someone says, Charlie, the only concession I support is McCarthy stepping aside.
00:10:29.000 He's an enemy to America first and the candidates he opposed.
00:10:32.000 He put his power grasp ahead of our country.
00:10:34.000 No to McCarthy.
00:10:36.000 Someone says here, Charlie, I will never support Kevin McCarthy.
00:10:39.000 He will continue wasteful spending like any Democrat or Republican.
00:10:43.000 Gridlock over McCarthy 100%.
00:10:45.000 Shut it all down.
00:10:47.000 Okay.
00:10:48.000 Someone says, Charlie, it's time to convince Kevin McCarthy to quit.
00:10:51.000 It's time for the 20 to hold on to their opposition and they all can convince McCarthy that he does not have the votes.
00:10:57.000 Then we can move on and elect someone like Byron Donalds, a real conservative who we can trust.
00:11:01.000 Tom from Des Moines, Iowa.
00:11:04.000 Please continue emailing us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:11:07.000 Want to hear all perspectives here.
00:11:10.000 And boy, we're going to hear from Bobert.
00:11:12.000 We're going to hear from Gingrich.
00:11:13.000 We're going to hear from many others.
00:11:14.000 So here's the question: Is if your position as a grassroots activist and as someone who is an interested party, which by the way, your voice should be involved in this, it shouldn't just be a backroom deal disconnected like the U.S. Senate works.
00:11:27.000 By the way, don't you wish that we could have had something like this in the U.S. Senate?
00:11:31.000 You could say all you want about McCarthy, but McConnell, what McConnell has done to our country is so just exponentially worse.
00:11:41.000 They're not even on the same playing field.
00:11:43.000 McConnell put forward the omnibus.
00:11:45.000 McConnell has done such damage.
00:11:47.000 I'm not even defending McCarthy.
00:11:49.000 That is a fact.
00:11:50.000 But of course, the Senate does backroom deals.
00:11:53.000 It just so happens, the House being the people's house, this is now unfolding.
00:11:57.000 And in some ways, it's healthy.
00:11:59.000 In some ways, it's rather risky because coalition governments are now being discussed.
00:12:05.000 And so if your position is, hey, I don't want Kevin McCarthy under any circumstance, no matter what, know Kevin McCarthy.
00:12:14.000 My question is: is it about him because of a personal issue?
00:12:19.000 Is it because of a lack of trust issue?
00:12:22.000 Or is it potentially because of the framework that Congress has to operate in?
00:12:28.000 Let me read you a text message from a Freedom Caucus member.
00:12:32.000 Again, I was up till midnight.
00:12:33.000 Erica will tell you, is up till midnight talking to these people, which is 2 o'clock in D.C., just hearing them out, listening, trying to be a sounding board, also asking, I think, questions where I think they get a little too ahead of themselves.
00:12:47.000 Here is a Freedom Caucus member who's currently a no, so one of the 20.
00:12:51.000 Charlie, I have been in meetings all evening.
00:12:54.000 I'm going to be honest.
00:12:55.000 What has been offered to us is the best deal I have ever seen or could think of.
00:13:00.000 It's going to be hard not to take this, but honestly, trust is the issue.
00:13:06.000 So that is the question, right?
00:13:07.000 Is that, okay, concessions are one thing, and you're trying to broker a deal.
00:13:13.000 And so effectively, essentially, last night, there were a series of meetings because they were going to vote.
00:13:19.000 Democrats wanted a vote to happen because they think this just makes Republicans look terrible, and they're not totally incorrect.
00:13:26.000 And they wanted the vote carousel to continue.
00:13:31.000 There was a vote to adjourn, though, because that was basically a vote to, hey, let's negotiate.
00:13:35.000 Let's try to strike a deal.
00:13:38.000 Now, the position of many of you is we don't want a deal.
00:13:40.000 We don't care how many concessions there are.
00:13:43.000 We don't care how good things get.
00:13:46.000 We want to burn it all down.
00:13:49.000 That is the majority consensus belief of all of you.
00:13:53.000 And I can't fault you for that perspective because you have been lied to and deceived and betrayed.
00:14:02.000 Someone said the number one email we're getting right now is Donald Trump for Speaker of the House.
00:14:07.000 He wouldn't win and he doesn't want it because you think 20 Republicans not wanting Kevin McCarthy is decisive.
00:14:14.000 There's probably 120 Republicans that do not want it.
00:14:19.000 And that's another important thing: is that yes, the 20 Freedom Caucus members do have power right now.
00:14:25.000 They are the swing voters.
00:14:27.000 But if this continues to go without taking a good deal, do not be surprised if those 50 to 75 more rhinotypes start to get very angry that Congress is being just going in that direction, even though that is much more in our philosophically congruent of our worldview, and they start going and caucusing with Democrats.
00:14:51.000 That's not going to happen today, but there are conversations right now to help form a coalition government, effectively eliminating the Republican House majority.
00:15:00.000 And no, just to be clear, I do not think Donald Trump would win the Speaker of the House race.
00:15:05.000 I do not.
00:15:06.000 There are at least 100 very moderate Republicans that are saying they're only going to vote for McCarthy.
00:15:12.000 But that's why I said yesterday, Donald Trump should be there negotiating the deal.
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00:16:32.000 This is what I'm hearing from the members, you know, working the phones last night and hearing people out and hearing their position.
00:16:38.000 Because I personally do not, and this is just my perspective, and a lot of you disagree.
00:16:44.000 I do not think having a position that I'm going to refuse a deal under all circumstances, I don't think that's wise or prudent.
00:16:52.000 You must be open-minded, hear it out in life.
00:16:55.000 Okay, I heard the deal.
00:16:57.000 I'm not going to take it.
00:16:58.000 But don't be too dogmatic about it.
00:17:00.000 Your constituents wouldn't want you to be dogmatic about it.
00:17:03.000 But what I'm hearing from House Freedom Caucus members, again, I spoke to six or eight of them last night, I can't remember, and texted a lot, plenty of them, is we don't trust Kevin McCarthy.
00:17:15.000 Okay, let's go to Cut 45, Lauren Bobert making the argument of trust.
00:17:19.000 Play Cut 45.
00:17:21.000 MC promised.
00:17:23.000 Of course I do, but I do not trust Kevin McCarthy at this point to deliver on those promises, especially when I go into good faith negotiations with him and then he comes out and lies about what those conversations were.
00:17:36.000 So that's a short clip of a very explosive conversation that Lauren Bobert and Sean Hannity had last evening.
00:17:43.000 I promise you our conversation will not be as explosive as that.
00:17:45.000 That I promise you.
00:17:46.000 But we are going to try to get towards, I'm going to try to get some clarity for sure, is trust.
00:17:51.000 I keep on hearing that word, trust, trust, trust, trust.
00:17:54.000 And that's a big deal because if you don't trust somebody, then all of these offers, it's going to be difficult to receive them.
00:18:04.000 So what can possibly be done to rebuild that trust?
00:18:08.000 I don't know.
00:18:09.000 Maybe put some ink to the deal, not just make it verbal.
00:18:14.000 And, you know, someone just emailed us.
00:18:15.000 They said, Charlie, it seems like your heart is with the audience, but in some ways, you want an open-minded head to understand political reality and to entertain some of the concessions.
00:18:24.000 Yeah, I think that's right.
00:18:26.000 I think that's correct.
00:18:28.000 Someone says here, Charlie, don't you watch War Room.
00:18:30.000 Trump is the one we need now for 100 days.
00:18:32.000 Yeah, I think that's an interesting idea, but Donald Trump doesn't want it.
00:18:38.000 And 100 Republicans, let's not say 100, let's say 50 rhinos would block it.
00:18:44.000 So that would not happen.
00:18:46.000 The state of the Republican Party is very, very fragile.
00:18:52.000 It is in a place of upheaval.
00:18:54.000 This is one of the reasons why we need to remove Rana as head of the RNC.
00:18:58.000 Okay, we have Newt Gingrich.
00:18:59.000 Speaker Gingrich, welcome back to the program.
00:19:01.000 Thank you for making time.
00:19:03.000 What do you make of the current vote carousel that's happening right now on the House of Representatives?
00:19:08.000 Well, I think, first of all, it's freedom in action.
00:19:11.000 It is something that's hard to explain to Putin or Xi Jinping or Kim Jong-un.
00:19:16.000 But in a free society, people get to argue these things out, and it's messy.
00:19:21.000 You know, we've done it 14 times before this.
00:19:24.000 We've had multiple votes for Speaker.
00:19:27.000 If McCarthy is going to get there, he'll have to make accommodation to get enough people to have a majority of those who vote.
00:19:35.000 If he can't do that, then the conference has to find somebody else who's more broadly acceptable.
00:19:41.000 And I think that's frankly a real challenge because I think that there's nobody else who can come close to McCarthy's reach of the whole conference.
00:19:50.000 So it's frustrating.
00:19:51.000 It's challenging.
00:19:53.000 I have been very critical of the approach of some of the people who are, in essence, trying to blackmail the conference because I think it's a very dangerous precedent.
00:20:03.000 You know, Lincoln in 1861 in his first inaugural said the problem with secession is once that's the principle, then everybody else gets to secede too, and you end up in chaos.
00:20:13.000 So it's the new principle that any five or six or seven members, whether they're moderates or they're California or they're Florida or whatever, you know, are people who represent the sugar beet growers, they get to hold up the entire process until they get what they want.
00:20:30.000 I think they've got to talk it out.
00:20:33.000 They've got to find some grounds to bring themselves together.
00:20:36.000 And hopefully 99% of the conference, I think there are three or four people who just hate Kevin, and they're not ever going to vote for him for a variety of personal reasons.
00:20:47.000 But I think everybody else has to put it together.
00:20:50.000 Boehner got elected with 216 votes.
00:20:53.000 Pelosi got elected with 216 votes.
00:20:57.000 Neither of them could get to 218.
00:21:00.000 And so several people voted present who were unwilling to vote for them.
00:21:04.000 So we'll see.
00:21:05.000 I've got a sense that overnight there was some progress, that people have made serious concessions on both sides.
00:21:15.000 And that I thought I was telling last night on the vote to adjourn that they had everybody except four members.
00:21:22.000 So they were up to 218 voting together as a team.
00:21:26.000 And if they can find a way to keep that going, either today or tomorrow or the next day, some point in the near future, we'll have a speaker and we'll get on with the business of the country.
00:21:36.000 So, Mr. Speaker, walk our audience through some of these concessions, or let's just say, deal offers that the McCarthy camp have put forward.
00:21:46.000 I'm a movement conservative.
00:21:48.000 You were at our event, and thank you for going there.
00:21:51.000 These are some potential huge victories for the grassroots.
00:21:56.000 And it would in some ways be foolish just to turn our back on them.
00:22:02.000 Am I reading that correctly?
00:22:04.000 Well, I think they're victories.
00:22:05.000 I think the going, you know, Jefferson wrote in the motion to vacate, so it has a very long history and has almost never been used.
00:22:15.000 And in retrospect, I think Boehner probably should have ignored, not been worried by it.
00:22:22.000 I mean, if somebody wants to move to vacate, you either have 218 votes or you don't.
00:22:27.000 And then they get back in the same problem.
00:22:29.000 If you don't have 218, who does?
00:22:32.000 So I think in that sense, Kevin went back to the original historic model.
00:22:38.000 He probably could have done it earlier.
00:22:39.000 But part of what happens in one of these things is you have to think about when are you going to make concessions?
00:22:45.000 Because if you concede everything early, they move the goalpost and they want seven more things.
00:22:51.000 I think the commitment to not get involved in primaries in open, safe Republican seats is very important to the club for growth.
00:23:02.000 I don't know that's strictly good politics, but that was a price to get the Club for Growth to say they could accept Kevin.
00:23:10.000 The fact is that the people who McCarthy supported in the primary is one, almost all of them won the general election, and that that's part of why they're now a majority, even if a very narrow one.
00:23:24.000 I think the commitment to get to a balanced budget is one that is actually in the commitment to America.
00:23:32.000 I think that Chiproy wants to make it a little stronger.
00:23:35.000 And look, as you know, Charlie, I was the speaker who balanced the federal budget for four straight years for the only time in your lifetime.
00:23:45.000 So I am totally committed to a balanced budget approach.
00:23:50.000 The other thing, they got a commitment to vote on term limits, which is fine.
00:23:54.000 We voted on term limits when I was speaker.
00:23:57.000 And they got one other commitment.
00:23:59.000 I can't remember what it is, but overall, I would say it is a somewhat more conservative position, but people shouldn't exaggerate.
00:24:08.000 I mean, the fact is, this was going to be a conservative Congress.
00:24:12.000 The Commitment to America is a very conservative document.
00:24:16.000 And you compare the Senate where McConnell's leading 13 Biden Republicans in vote after vote that is totally opposed to what we believe in.
00:24:26.000 And then McConnell's going off to Kentucky with Biden to celebrate a billion $700 bridge.
00:24:35.000 I think that McCarthy is the only anchor that we have right now.
00:24:39.000 And I don't see, you know, if he were to withdraw today, I don't see how they'd find somebody who gets 218.
00:24:46.000 Because the moderates who are also legitimately elected, they're not going to go along with a hard right position.
00:24:54.000 And yeah, that means we all get a little bit frustrated.
00:24:57.000 But that's, again, the nature of a free society.
00:24:59.000 Well, and I think the anger that the grassroots has, $1.7 trillion omnibus, McConnell, and all that, it's really playing out in this House vote, incorrectly or correctly.
00:25:13.000 And they see McConnell jetting Australia.
00:25:15.000 And I think that needs to be emphasized because I think that's exactly right.
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00:26:25.000 Mr. Speaker, finish that thought about populism and anger, which, by the way, I share some of that anger, a lot of it, actually.
00:26:31.000 Well, we all do.
00:26:32.000 Look, I do.
00:26:33.000 If you go back and look at my whole career, I was constantly pounding against the establishment, which I think is corrupt and sick.
00:26:41.000 All I was going to say is people legitimately should be very angry.
00:26:45.000 The more you learn about the FBI, the more you learn about these other efforts to censor us, the more you learn about the corruption of the Biden family, the more you learn about the schools that are trying to teach your children and grandchildren weird ideas and weird values while failing to teach them math and science and reading.
00:27:03.000 People ought to be angry.
00:27:05.000 And I have to tell you, as a lifelong Republican, I am very frustrated by the Senate.
00:27:10.000 I am very worried about the 2024 election.
00:27:13.000 I think there's a grave danger we're going to get into an always-Trump versus never Trump war and end up in a collapse like 1964 with Goldwater and Reagan and Rockefeller.
00:27:25.000 So I think that these are serious times.
00:27:28.000 And I think that you're right.
00:27:30.000 This particular fight in the House is a miniature example of what's happening all over the country and is going to have real consequences.
00:27:38.000 So, Mr. Speaker, I think this will end up hopefully reaching some conclusion at some point.
00:27:48.000 The promises to be made for oversight, Church and Pike type committee, Jim Jordan in charge of judiciary, these are significant things.
00:27:58.000 You were able to balance a budget in a town in an era where deficit spending was the norm for decades.
00:28:07.000 And just kind of in our couple minutes here, what wisdom would you share of how to get an impossible deal done in the halls of Congress?
00:28:17.000 What could you possibly share?
00:28:20.000 I would tell everybody get Tom Evans' little book on the education of Ronald Reagan, which is about Reagan's years of general electorate.
00:28:30.000 Understand exactly how Reagan governed, which was how we did the contract.
00:28:35.000 And it's what McCarthy's going to have to do.
00:28:38.000 You have to represent 70 or 80 or 90% of the American people.
00:28:42.000 I've been working on something everybody who's listening can go see, which is America's New MajorityProject.com.
00:28:51.000 And we have, since 2018, found issue after issue.
00:28:55.000 For example, 84% of the country believes parents ought to have the right to know exactly what's happening to their children in school.
00:29:02.000 84%.
00:29:04.000 Now, you take an issue like that, you can build the momentum where the other side has two choices.
00:29:10.000 They can fight you and get crushed in 24, or they can sign it.
00:29:15.000 And I think what Republicans have to do in the House, because they can't rely on the Senate for anything, and they have Biden opposed to them.
00:29:22.000 So they've got to build up such strong support at the grassroots that it coerces the senators, and Biden is given a choice of getting beaten in 6 and 24 or signing the bill, which is exactly what happened with Bill Clinton.
00:29:36.000 He had to sign welfare reform, or he couldn't get re-elected.
00:29:40.000 He had to be for a balanced budget, or he couldn't get reelected.
00:29:43.000 So you start with the surprise, surprise.
00:29:46.000 You start with the American people and you find out what they want.
00:29:50.000 You campaign for it.
00:29:52.000 When you run into some kind of Biden Republican, and that's what I would call them.
00:29:56.000 I wouldn't call them a rhino.
00:29:57.000 These are Biden Republicans.
00:29:59.000 These are people who vote with Schumer.
00:30:01.000 They help Biden get his record through.
00:30:03.000 And I think tying them to Biden is much more devastating than just talking about them as rhinos.
00:30:09.000 And I would be very tough about it.
00:30:12.000 You know, if you're if you're determined to be that kind of a Biden supporter, you should not be surprised if you end up with a primary fight.
00:30:19.000 I think that's very wise, Mr. Speaker.
00:30:21.000 Thank you for sharing that, and I hope that this gets sorted out.
00:30:25.000 Appreciate it.
00:30:26.000 Thank you so much.
00:30:28.000 Well, well, thanks, Charlie.
00:30:29.000 Talk to you soon.
00:30:30.000 Thank you.
00:30:32.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:30:34.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:30:37.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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