00:00:00.000Hey, everybody, it's Anthony Charlie Kirk Show, legal update brought to you by Alina Haba, Donald Trump's lawyer.
00:00:05.000We talk about what is happening with the new Kulaks, an update live from East Palestine, Ohio.
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00:02:25.000But the truth of the matter is that, you know, this is a person, as you know, Charlie, as we've discussed, you and I, that have ran on getting Trump.
00:02:33.000She came out and said she was going to go in the Trump organization every day, see what's going on in their business, come out and sue them.
00:03:09.000Yeah, I've been involved in this for the better of three years.
00:03:12.000This has been a special proceeding when it wasn't as high profile, where she investigated for multiple years, wasted taxpayer dollars, did an investigation trying to find some little initial, some little bit of evidence that she could bring a case.
00:04:19.000And so it's just, and then we have all this EGE Carroll stuff.
00:04:23.000And it is, it is such a terrible and destructive precedent.
00:04:28.000Now, can you walk through what the appeal process here?
00:04:31.000And I know, Alina, you have to be careful, but I imagine this afternoon, we could end up seeing a couple hundred million dollar judgment against Trump.
00:04:40.000What does the appeal process look like?
00:05:50.000This is the first time that they're using Section 6312 against a private company to put their nose into something where they've done absolutely nothing wrong.
00:05:59.000Their statements of financial condition were undervalued.
00:06:01.000But if you try and say that Mar-a-Lago is worth $18 million, Charlie, then it looks like they're overvalued.
00:06:43.000So the most was a couple hundred million in liquidity that they needed.
00:06:49.000There is no question that the Trump organization and the Trump family is worth billions and billions of dollars, but they're bringing a lawsuit based on a VIG of a couple hundred million.
00:07:36.000There are lots that are adjacent next to what is called the Bath and Tennis Club that has been purchased by other billionaires that are like one fraction the size of Mar-a-Lago that are going, that goes for like hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:07:48.000Literally, like the whole transaction one after the other, Mar-a-Lago is five to six like scale above it.
00:07:56.000The toilets, the bathrooms at Mar-a-Lag are $18 million.
00:08:00.000You can't get a shack on the island of Palm Beach.
00:08:02.000You can't get a shack on the things are going for $2,500, $3,000 a square foot.
00:08:29.000And Deutsche Bank, sophisticated banks, sophisticated insurance agencies were not only paid on time with interest and ahead of time sometimes.
00:09:42.000Imagine if you want to inflate your property and you have a Trump name, the name that got him to be president because he was such a well-known businessman.
00:10:10.000It is quite something, to be perfectly honest with you, that the first time where someone's going to lose their business empire and there's no victims.
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00:11:56.000We're taking all of your land away from you.
00:11:58.000I'm going to try to personalize this Trump ruling for some of you and connect kulak Soviet history because you might feel that it's in the distance, but imagine if all of a sudden what you own is just taken from you because they don't like your politics.
00:12:14.000In Russian, kulak means fist or it means grasping.
00:12:22.000Kulak was someone who was considered to be a dishonest or rural traitor, but it just grew.
00:12:27.000Anyone who owns land, anyone who employs anybody.
00:12:31.000What's going on with Donald Trump and Letitia James is to set the precedent for a mass property confiscation campaign coming to America.
00:13:52.000Hey, Charlie, yeah, there's we've got the whole street lined up down here in Market Street, just off of Main Street, East Palestine, small town, you know, small community, but they've come out.
00:14:01.000Joe Biden finally is showing up, finally showing his face in town.
00:14:04.000And the folks came out to let him know what they think of him and who they really support.
00:14:57.000Norfolk Southern, there's still question about who made that decision.
00:15:00.000The call to blow up those tankers created a massive mushroom cloud of black toxic smoke and chemicals that ended up going all over this little tiny town and all throughout this area for hundreds of miles.
00:15:15.000And people are still dealing with the health implications of this.
00:15:18.000Some people still aren't in their homes.
00:15:20.000People have been trying to sell their homes.
00:15:21.000You basically can't sell your home here because who wants to move here now?
00:15:25.000You've got health concerns for the kids.
00:15:27.000You've got long-term concerns for the kids in particular.
00:15:30.000And you've got an EPA that's basically done nothing.
00:15:33.000They've told Norfolk Southern, which is the rail company that caused the disaster, that it's basically on them.
00:16:07.000Is this a way to try to just have some sort of presence in the Rust Belt?
00:16:12.000It's a strange approach, especially a state he's assuredly going to lose as Ohio.
00:16:17.000Yeah, I can't even answer that for you, honestly.
00:16:20.000I mean, it'll be interesting to see what he actually says.
00:16:23.000I don't know if it's a deflection from everything else that's going on.
00:16:26.000I don't know if he's been pressured by somebody.
00:16:28.000You know, they've been pressuring him from the beginning.
00:16:30.000You know, this he should have come out here the month after, the week after, the days after, but to wait an entire year, a year and two weeks, and then to just show up.
00:16:40.000Honestly, I can't tell you what the purpose is.
00:16:44.000You know, America's got to be the judge.
00:16:46.000It doesn't make any sense to me, though.
00:16:48.000I think it's, I think Sherrod Brown asked him to come as a way to give some cover fire because he's in a very tough Senate reelection race right now in Ohio.
00:16:57.000I bet Chuck Schumer and Sherrod Brown called in a favor for some cover fire.
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00:18:20.000We just finished a markup in the Judiciary Committee yesterday in which we marked up a very important bill that I hope will stick in your mind and that of your viewers, Charlie.
00:18:30.000It is a bill that last year, last summer, the United States Supreme Court said that state attorneys general could not sue when the Department of Homeland Security, when Secretary Mayorkis adopted rules about detaining or releasing migrants that flatly contradict the law, contradict the Immigration Nationality Act that's passed by Congress.
00:18:51.000And the Supreme Court said, well, administration has some prosecutorial discretion left, so we can't get in the business of refereeing that.
00:18:59.000The only thing Congress can do to make sure the law is followed is to do something like impeach Secretary Mayorkis.
00:19:06.000But what we ought to do is do what the Supreme Court invited, and that is for Congress to change the law so that secretaries of state all over the country can seek the court's help in enforcing the law when the Secretary of Homeland Security decides to violate it.
00:19:20.000Any border deal that may end up at any point in time, and there's a new one suggested by the Rhinos and some Democrats to make sure they get Ukraine funding through.
00:19:31.000They've got some fig leaf of a deal that they're proposing.
00:19:34.000But the question that's going to have to be asked in any border deal that might come down the pike or any border legislation is how do we know the Biden administration will actually follow the deal?
00:19:49.000This bill that we just marked up on the Judiciary Committee would be one way, and all the Democrats oppose it vociferously.
00:19:56.000If we end up, that's the kind of thing, Charlie, that would be the solid, the test whether or not we have a real deal if provisions like that are included.
00:21:00.000This is one of the reasons why I was so upset back in the fall, not with you, Congressman, but just with leadership and just the establishment, because we're heading towards a shutdown.
00:21:09.000We should have just really embraced that back in the fall.
00:21:29.000The speaker may collapse at the end and embrace the old omnibus appropriations bill routine that we've seen over and over again.
00:21:39.000Actually, at this point, you understand we're a far cry from what we set out to do when we contested the speaker's election a year ago, year and a month ago, where we had a plan for fiscal restraint with specific targets.
00:21:51.000Kevin McCarthy blew that, frankly, in June of last year.
00:21:56.000Speaker Johnson's doing his best to kind of get his feet under him.
00:21:59.000But at this point in time, a continuing resolution that just kept things where they are for until through the next into the next fiscal year might be the best outcome.
00:22:09.000The worst thing we can do is see it go below all those caps that were agreed to in the so-called fiscal responsibility act last June, which were too high as they were and go even further.
00:22:20.000And then add supplementals on top of that.
00:23:19.000The bill ran into trouble because LGBT groups, and we have evidence of this, we have a letter to show this, were worried it would make it too easy for red state AGs to target predators who try and groom children into mutilating themselves or destroying themselves with hormones.
00:23:35.000So, now they're retooling the bill to give all the power to the FTC.
00:23:39.000I know you're probably learning about this just right now, but I think it's important.
00:23:43.000The red state AGs, I think we need a whole new class, a whole new attitude of AGs that love the law, that want justice, but also are going to stand up against the special interests that have done such damage to this country.
00:24:01.000Even the first thing that I mentioned off the tie at the top of the hit about what we marked up in the Judiciary Committee was about empowering state attorneys general to keep the government honest.
00:24:10.000And yes, what you've just described, and you do see this, the attorney general role, state attorneys general have emerged over the past 20 years to be defending some of our most important fundamental rights against overreaches by lunatics across all sorts of institutions, but certainly overreaching federal agencies.
00:24:30.000And so, yes, I'm not surprised because the left sees this.
00:24:35.000That's one reason they spend disproportionately to try to keep and get as many attorney generals offices as they can.
00:24:43.000And it's the reason that Republicans like, that's the reason I'm leaving Congress.
00:24:48.000I believe it's an extraordinary important role to get.
00:24:50.000And believe me, Charlie, if you know anything about me and you've watched me in Congress, folks know they can count on me to be as aggressive as possible in defending people's rights and restoring respect for and reverence for the law.
00:25:28.000But North Carolina is an interesting state.
00:25:30.000I want to just reflect on this for a second.
00:25:33.000It has voted for Trump the last couple times, has two Republican senators, has a Democrat governor, and has this research triangle that feels more like Silicon Valley than the deep south.
00:25:50.000And there's a lot of out-of-staters going to North Carolina.
00:25:53.000My first question would be, what evidence do we have of how North Carolina has changed, if at all, since 2020?
00:26:01.000I think the two pieces of evidence that you need to consider beyond those you've mentioned is that we've held the Republicans have held the General Assembly, the legislature for 13 years, usually and currently by supermajorities in both houses.
00:26:17.000And here's the key, Charlie, 13 straight appellate court judgeships elections won by Republicans statewide.
00:26:25.000This state is in the position that Florida was in some years ago before Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis transformed it into a Republican stronghold.
00:26:39.000The mix that you see, you mentioned the leading executive offices, the Attorney General's office, which we've not won since 1896, and the governor's office, which we've only won three times over the last 30, 40 years.
00:26:51.000But there have been some preeminent Democrats there, but this is a changing state.
00:26:55.000Marvelous growth in exurban counties like Brunswick and Onslow, for example.
00:27:02.000This is a state that is begging to become a solid red Republican state.
00:27:07.000And I think this year is going to be pivotal.
00:27:09.000Mark Robinson, I think, will be the Republican nominee for governor.
00:27:13.000And I think he's an important historic figure.
00:27:39.000I mean, that is as liberal as it gets.
00:27:42.000One of the Democrats in this race is the DA from Durham County, where Duke University is, and Durham's as liberal as they get, and she's a bona fide Soros type prosecutor.
00:28:01.000And I don't suggest that it's a cakewalk, but one of the things, Charlie, I think that when you have this so-called purple state phenomenon, bold leadership and results change things both ways, frankly.
00:28:17.000There's never been a more opportune moment for a law and order campaign in North Carolina.
00:28:22.000That theme is going to hit home with those suburban soccer moms that people always ask about.
00:28:27.000They're worried for their family's safety, for their own personal safety, and they're worried about institutional corruption that's destroying the civic order in so many ways.
00:28:37.000And they're going to be ready for a message that says we're going to restore that.
00:28:41.000And the way you do it is respect for the law, not an idea where you get an attorney general, he gives his ideological position on any number of issues like photo ID and just goes and fights the law constantly.
00:28:54.000That's a corruption of our constitutional system.
00:28:56.000And people are ready to see some order restored, some normalcy.
00:32:23.000It's just, it is very, I will say this, it's monumental timing.
00:32:29.000I'm not going to say curious timing because I think every piece of evidence we have, both prior and current, is that probably this was a Putin operation.
00:32:52.000Maybe Putin just wants to send a final message that FAFO, man, he's just, and maybe some of the previous poisoning attempts could have weakened his constitution and he was weakened and it's random.
00:33:05.000Maybe, but I mean, I just, I, come on, don't.
00:33:10.000I don't want to go too far down that road.
00:33:21.000Even if you disagree with him, I mean, I'm largely sympathetic to the idea of creating a free society, but I don't know Russian politics and I'm not going to overly weigh in on that.
00:33:59.000If it's true, I want Putin, his entourage, Putin friends, and his government to know they'll be held responsible for what they've done to my country, my family, and my husband.