The Charlie Kirk Show - January 10, 2025


The Next Generation of MAGA Heroes — Exclusive Interview with Rep. Byron Donalds


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In this episode, Speaker of the House of Representatives Byron Deven Dumas talks about the recent CR that passed the House and what it means for the future of the country. He also talks about why it passed and why he thinks it s a good thing.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
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00:00:24.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:25.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:27.000 I want you to know we are lucky.
00:00:29.000 To have Charlie Kirk.
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00:00:34.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:35.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:36.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
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00:00:55.000 Byron, great to see great to see you.
00:01:24.000 It's great to see you.
00:01:25.000 Victory!
00:01:26.000 It's great to see you, my friend.
00:01:27.000 Thank you.
00:01:28.000 Victory feels good.
00:01:29.000 Amen.
00:01:30.000 So, I want to talk about the election, what happened, but I've been running an event, running all over the place.
00:01:34.000 Can you explain what happened during this last week with the CR? Help us make sense of all that, because it's so confusing just as we're trying to run our lives.
00:01:44.000 So, look, at its core, it's mismanagement.
00:01:48.000 This is what happens when you kind of...
00:01:51.000 When Washington does what it typically has done, where we call it the four corners, when they kind of go into a room and nobody else knows what's going on.
00:01:59.000 The difference between today's Washington and the Washington we all know is that there is real outside influence that can stop garbage bills from being passed at the last minute.
00:02:13.000 So, you know, when members started saying no publicly on this bill, Elon comes out, says this bill should not pass.
00:02:20.000 President Trump comes out, says this bill should not pass.
00:02:23.000 At that point, they had to go back to the drawing board.
00:02:26.000 And that's when members came in the room working with the leadership to get to what we got to here.
00:02:32.000 The big thing now is next year, which really starts in the week for us.
00:02:36.000 We can't have any missteps.
00:02:38.000 We have a large agenda we have to get through.
00:02:40.000 Not a lot of time to do it.
00:02:42.000 Yeah, so help me understand, and I'm not trying to get you in any trouble, but mismanagement by who?
00:02:47.000 The leadership team.
00:02:49.000 In the House of Representatives?
00:02:50.000 In the House, yeah.
00:02:51.000 Is it fair to say, again, I don't want to name any names, but like, you know who.
00:02:55.000 You know who.
00:02:59.000 Is it fair to say, though, that this was negotiated in private over a course of six weeks?
00:03:03.000 Is that right?
00:03:04.000 Yeah, it is.
00:03:05.000 Because members were asking questions.
00:03:07.000 Where are we with this?
00:03:08.000 What's our game plan?
00:03:10.000 Weren't really getting any real answers.
00:03:12.000 Then you start hearing rumors around town.
00:03:15.000 We hear there's a package.
00:03:16.000 We hear this is in it.
00:03:17.000 We hear that's in it.
00:03:18.000 And you weren't really hearing anything concrete until, you know, whether it's lobbyists, staff members start coming back to members and reporters saying, hey, we hear it's going to be about...
00:03:30.000 500 pages.
00:03:31.000 Wait, hold on.
00:03:31.000 So you're learning about the bill from the media?
00:03:35.000 Sometimes, yeah.
00:03:36.000 Sometimes you hear about it from media.
00:03:37.000 So we know as much as you know, basically.
00:03:40.000 Yes.
00:03:40.000 And I will tell you, and let me expound on this.
00:03:44.000 The 118th Congress, which is the one that just ended, has been, in my view, a very historic one.
00:03:48.000 We started this Congress with a major fight over the speakership.
00:03:52.000 Because members like myself and others wanted to see the ways of Washington change.
00:03:58.000 And we actually did accomplish a lot of those things.
00:04:01.000 But to be blunt, when McCarthy got vacated, a lot of the stuff that we kind of got accomplished...
00:04:13.000 We have to get back to the drawing board, get back to making it a member-centered process.
00:04:21.000 If it's a member-centered process, you don't have these issues and you have, frankly, the will of the voters reflected in the packages that come out of Washington.
00:04:29.000 Yeah, I just – just from a process standpoint, let alone the actual result, which we all know is garbage, just how it works for six weeks, how – I mean, you're a very well-respected member of the body.
00:04:40.000 You're not even involved.
00:04:42.000 I mean, let alone notified.
00:04:43.000 And you're learning from CNN that we're going to go, like, give money to BioLabs or something?
00:04:48.000 Um, yeah.
00:04:51.000 Look, I'm going to tell you this.
00:04:54.000 That is even worse than I... And I had, like, the lowest possible opinion of Congress.
00:04:58.000 That's worse than I could have done that.
00:05:00.000 When you start hearing things from the lobby corps, from K Street, from staff members, and from media, before you hear from it from your leadership...
00:05:09.000 That's a problem.
00:05:11.000 And I will tell you, there is a lot of us who left D.C. either this morning or last night saying, we're not going into 2025 operating this way.
00:05:23.000 We're just not.
00:05:26.000 Again, feel free to just kind of take the fifth.
00:05:30.000 Does that mean a personnel change?
00:05:33.000 I'm not going to comment on that.
00:05:35.000 I invoke my Fifth Amendment rights.
00:05:39.000 I will expand.
00:05:43.000 It's incumbent upon the leadership to realize what went wrong and fix it immediately.
00:05:48.000 If they do that, I think things will be fine.
00:05:51.000 If they don't or they don't come to a recognition of that...
00:05:55.000 There's going to be other discussions that are going to be made.
00:05:57.000 I don't fault anyone for voting for the final version of this thing, which I still think was not the desirable outcome.
00:06:03.000 But help me understand just the process side of it, because you've been amazing, Byron.
00:06:08.000 He's so great.
00:06:08.000 He fights every day.
00:06:09.000 He's just been terrific.
00:06:12.000 And help me understand, though, why Congress did not just work through Christmas and do 10 or 12 appropriation bills and just said, hey, you know, nurses have to work on Christmas Eve.
00:06:24.000 Airline pilots have to work on Christmas.
00:06:26.000 We're not entitled to a Christmas vacation while the country is being screwed up.
00:06:30.000 We're just going to work all the way through until January 3rd.
00:06:33.000 If we have to shut down the government for a couple of days, we will.
00:06:35.000 It seems as if there's like this lifestyle sense of urgency that we are so entitled to a Christmas vacation.
00:06:41.000 We just need to kind of vote for this because we have no other option.
00:06:44.000 Like, help me understand that, like, you guys should still be there for all intents and purposes.
00:06:48.000 I agree.
00:06:50.000 There was a conversation I was had, not yesterday, the day before.
00:06:56.000 Honestly, the package that ended up was not the best one.
00:06:58.000 We're starting to look at how are we going to get the agenda done?
00:07:01.000 Because President Trump has a mandate, so how are we going to get that through Congress?
00:07:05.000 There are some major adjustments to spending that are going to have to be made.
00:07:10.000 There's a lot of us where our attitude is, go home, see your family for Christmas, get back to town the 27th, and let's just work.
00:07:17.000 Because it's going to be a day-in, day-out process.
00:07:20.000 Yeah, there could have been a CR until the 27th, though.
00:07:22.000 Right?
00:07:22.000 We could have done a continuing resolution so you guys get a Christmas vacation, go breathe.
00:07:25.000 But we're not going to fund the government.
00:07:28.000 Because, by the way, a CR should be like five sentences, right?
00:07:31.000 Yes, it should be, yes.
00:07:31.000 Not 150 pages, let alone 1,500 pages.
00:07:34.000 The leadership, to be blunt with you, the leadership and the Democrats.
00:07:38.000 And also, you have a lot of our colleagues where their view is, we'll fix it next year.
00:07:44.000 I just want to get out of town.
00:07:48.000 January is here.
00:07:49.000 Can you believe it?
00:07:49.000 How are you doing with your New Year's resolutions?
00:07:52.000 Mine was pretty easy.
00:07:53.000 It's focused on my well-being.
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00:08:44.000 I'm not an expert, but I've seen this for 12 years.
00:08:49.000 How much of the destruction of our country...
00:08:51.000 Actually, it's just people don't want to just stay there over a Christmas break.
00:08:56.000 It's insane to me.
00:08:58.000 I want to say it's not Christmas break.
00:09:00.000 What this town likes to do is bring everything up to the last minute.
00:09:04.000 No, that's exactly right.
00:09:04.000 So it's not Christmas.
00:09:06.000 It's, what were you doing in June and July?
00:09:09.000 What are you doing in September?
00:09:11.000 Again, I don't want to overemphasize on this, but I think it's so important.
00:09:16.000 Byron, the excuse was, in June or July, it's an election year.
00:09:19.000 So we can't do anything controversial during an election year.
00:09:22.000 Well, what in the fresh hell is their excuse right now?
00:09:26.000 I mean, we've never been so far away from an election.
00:09:30.000 But I will tell you, that's why when that deal came out, you had so many members go against it.
00:09:38.000 Because members like myself and a lot of my colleagues, they were like, we just won a major election.
00:09:44.000 Why are we acting as if we need the Democrats to bail us out of something?
00:09:49.000 Like, we won.
00:09:52.000 So at this point, we should be dictating terms, not having to go to them saying, well, this is what we're trying to accomplish.
00:10:00.000 What do you need?
00:10:00.000 Because please, please, please, that stuff you can't do.
00:10:03.000 Because once you start that way, Charlie, you've been in negotiations.
00:10:06.000 Anybody that's worked, you've been in negotiations.
00:10:08.000 Once you start coming to the table like you need something, you're done.
00:10:13.000 And I just, look, everybody wants something in life.
00:10:15.000 Everybody fears something in life.
00:10:17.000 And you have to find the combination of those two things.
00:10:20.000 What does Senate...
00:10:21.000 This is a general thing, not a personnel question, because it's all the same.
00:10:24.000 You can replace the speaker.
00:10:25.000 It's interchangeable parts, okay?
00:10:27.000 So if you get rid of Johnson, you might just have someone who's the same.
00:10:29.000 And it might be a good idea, it might not be.
00:10:30.000 The point being is that what does the average House leader want and what do they fear most?
00:10:37.000 What do they want most and what do they fear most?
00:10:40.000 Psychoanalyze to me those people, because it's a mystery.
00:10:44.000 What they want most is to keep the majority.
00:10:48.000 Okay.
00:10:49.000 They have that, thanks to Trump.
00:10:52.000 But I'm going to expound upon that.
00:10:53.000 And by the way, you're correct.
00:10:54.000 They do have it because of Trump.
00:10:56.000 The focus of the...
00:10:57.000 And this man right here.
00:10:58.000 You are correct.
00:10:59.000 And this man right here.
00:11:05.000 Leadership likes to be in leadership.
00:11:07.000 So everything is always about the next election and keeping the majority.
00:11:11.000 Even now, the conversations are, well, we're going into the midterms.
00:11:15.000 The odds are we're going to lose.
00:11:17.000 So we have to do everything we can to keep the majority.
00:11:20.000 My position and the position of a lot of members who agree with me, a lot of them you'll probably hear from today, are if you accomplish the agenda, that helps us keep the majority.
00:11:29.000 But you've got to do something.
00:11:31.000 What good is a majority going to do anything?
00:11:33.000 Exactly.
00:11:34.000 The purpose of majorities is to accomplish your agenda.
00:11:37.000 And the purpose of accomplishing your agenda is to change the way the government works and the way your society is organized.
00:11:43.000 And the only way you get to that point is you have to institutionalize an agenda.
00:11:47.000 And say what you will about Nancy Pelosi.
00:11:49.000 She's never had a problem making her members walk the plank to accomplish their agenda.
00:11:55.000 And we have to be agenda-minded.
00:11:57.000 We have to be mission-minded.
00:11:58.000 And that actually helps you keep your majorities.
00:12:00.000 What do they fear most?
00:12:03.000 Not being in leadership.
00:12:06.000 Yeah, I mean, that's sick, actually.
00:12:10.000 What you fear most, what I fear most is losing our country, obviously.
00:12:14.000 That's our drive.
00:12:15.000 What we love most and what we want most is to save the country.
00:12:18.000 Okay, so I think we've gone through that.
00:12:20.000 Are you hopeful that this, I mean, look, President Trump, this is why President Trump is so successful, because of garbage like this, because he's an insurgent against all this stuff.
00:12:26.000 Do you think that we'll be able, with President Trump's incoming mandate, the bully pulpit, The political power that he has, the ability to snap a finger, he could remove a member of Congress literally through a primary campaign.
00:12:36.000 Do you think this will change with President Trump taking off on January 20th?
00:12:41.000 Some of it will.
00:12:42.000 But I will stress to you, the thought process and the working process of the leadership in both chambers is going to be critical to that.
00:12:55.000 Because...
00:12:55.000 That town has its own muscle memory, which Donald Trump ran up against the first time.
00:13:01.000 Now, the thing that the town doesn't like more than anything else is the fact that he's had time to now think about it.
00:13:07.000 Which is problematic for them.
00:13:09.000 But can we do it?
00:13:11.000 Yes.
00:13:11.000 It takes will more than anything else.
00:13:14.000 And where I will dovetail, Charlie, and this goes to the work you did during this campaign.
00:13:18.000 Because you demonstrated that young voters can go to the polls and pull the lever or check the box and vote for the future of this country and vote for conservatism and common sense and republicanism, however you want to view it.
00:13:31.000 Because you proved what the political world said could not be done.
00:13:36.000 It gives wind in the sails of people in D.C. to say, you know what?
00:13:40.000 Maybe we should do this.
00:13:42.000 The other thing is you've got to have people who are just willing to go home to get the mission done.
00:13:50.000 Like, I don't care.
00:13:51.000 Send me home.
00:13:51.000 I'll go make money.
00:13:52.000 I like money.
00:13:53.000 It's great.
00:13:53.000 My wife might be happier than being in Congress.
00:13:57.000 But she's happy.
00:13:58.000 Don't get me wrong, ladies and gentlemen.
00:13:59.000 She's very, very happy.
00:14:00.000 But you get what I'm saying.
00:14:02.000 But you've got to have members who understand the purpose is to come and accomplish it, not to come and stay.
00:14:08.000 Amen.
00:14:09.000 And I want to get to questions because you're tight on time here.
00:14:14.000 Byron is very talented.
00:14:15.000 You made money before you went into Congress.
00:14:16.000 You had a great business career, all that stuff.
00:14:18.000 There's so many people that go into Congress, though.
00:14:20.000 They have a substandard skill set where this is like the biggest thing they'll ever do.
00:14:24.000 So they never want to let it go.
00:14:26.000 And for them, this is like the dream.
00:14:28.000 You don't have to work.
00:14:30.000 You have a bunch of people serving you all the time.
00:14:31.000 They call you congressmen.
00:14:33.000 You kind of act important.
00:14:35.000 And so they never want to lose that thing.
00:14:38.000 Because for them, that is a way over-accomplishment giving their skill set.
00:14:42.000 Like a way over-accomplishment.
00:14:44.000 One pushback I will tell you.
00:14:45.000 Since probably 2016...
00:14:48.000 There's a new wave of members.
00:14:50.000 I agree with that.
00:14:51.000 The new wave of members are coming in.
00:14:53.000 These people actually have done stuff.
00:14:55.000 And I think they're adopting more of the mindset of, I'm not coming here for a 30-year career.
00:15:00.000 They're coming in to serve.
00:15:02.000 Might be eight years, ten years.
00:15:05.000 But then they want to go home.
00:15:07.000 Like, I told my district, you got ten years max out of me.
00:15:10.000 And then I'm going home.
00:15:11.000 Because it's time for somebody else.
00:15:13.000 And so I think you have that wave of people coming into the House, which is going to make it easier to get, not just to pass tax cuts, or not just to make sure we secure a border, but to make sure that becomes the way that the town thinks about these policies.
00:15:30.000 That's the institutionalization of the America First agenda, which is the real North Star that we need to accomplish.
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00:16:41.000 Let's get some questions here, and I will just say, actually, I'm not going to say it because I don't want to get Byron in trouble, but I think he has a great future.
00:16:50.000 Don't you think?
00:16:50.000 I think Byron has a great future.
00:16:52.000 That's all I'm going to say.
00:16:53.000 I don't want to get Byron in trouble.
00:16:55.000 You can get yourself in trouble on the show.
00:16:57.000 You already got me in trouble, Charlie, but that's okay.
00:16:59.000 Okay.
00:17:00.000 I just said you have a great future.
00:17:01.000 I think you got a great future.
00:17:02.000 Okay.
00:17:03.000 Hey, I'm Stephanie from Michigan, and we flipped a Democratic seat to Republican with Tom Barrett.
00:17:10.000 That was the Slotkin seat, right? 0.71
00:17:11.000 Correct.
00:17:12.000 And he's an excellent guy.
00:17:15.000 He was at many events that I got to speak intimately with him.
00:17:19.000 He is very sweet.
00:17:20.000 How can we make sure we hold him accountable, but making sure we don't fall back into the blue side in that region of Lansing?
00:17:30.000 Oh, this is a great question.
00:17:32.000 So first of all, how you hold him accountable is you want to constantly be in communication with him and his staff.
00:17:40.000 On the Hill, staff is everything.
00:17:42.000 We say in Washington, personnel is policy.
00:17:46.000 So whoever's working in the office tends to dictate because the members, we're running all over the place.
00:17:51.000 So you want to stay in contact with the staff and with him as much as you can.
00:17:55.000 His schedule, especially these first six months, he's not going to be home a lot.
00:17:59.000 Because we got a lot of work to do.
00:18:00.000 So we're going to be in Washington a lot.
00:18:02.000 But that doesn't mean he's not doing the right thing.
00:18:04.000 Second thing is, you got guys like me to...
00:18:06.000 Now that you said that, I'm going to find them.
00:18:07.000 I'm going to be like, hey, Tom, I saw some of your people.
00:18:11.000 I'm going to be...
00:18:12.000 I'm watching.
00:18:20.000 But for your area, and this is important.
00:18:23.000 Electoral politics only work when you are engaging people locally on a continuous basis.
00:18:29.000 It's about building relationship, not just getting votes.
00:18:33.000 And so if you are constantly in your community having these conversations with kids who are in high school now who then become college students, and then become young adults, they're in your churches, they're in your communities, they're at the local bar, they go to the local restaurant.
00:18:50.000 When I give speeches in areas, I talk sometimes to the people who are working the room, not the people who are sitting at the table.
00:18:59.000 Because the people that are sitting at the table, they already agree with me.
00:19:01.000 I mean, y'all agree with me.
00:19:02.000 That's cool.
00:19:02.000 I get it.
00:19:03.000 The people that are working the Phoenix Convention Center, those are the votes that we need.
00:19:08.000 And when you think about how to go through the process over the next two years, you want to be focused on the working men and women of your community.
00:19:15.000 If you have them in alignment, not in 100% agreement.
00:19:19.000 In alignment with where your philosophy is, it is easier to get them to vote your way when it comes to elections.
00:19:26.000 Very good.
00:19:27.000 Next question, Daisy.
00:19:29.000 Charlie and Byron, thank you.
00:19:30.000 I'm actually a pastor in Southern California, so it's a quick question.
00:19:34.000 My name's Shane Eidelman.
00:19:35.000 I know you.
00:19:36.000 Charlie, good to see you.
00:19:36.000 Good man, I can't see you back there.
00:19:38.000 That's okay.
00:19:38.000 I was on the pastor's panel in San Diego last year.
00:19:40.000 Courageous guy.
00:19:41.000 Quick question.
00:19:43.000 Well, I have you both here.
00:19:45.000 Newsom's up in two years.
00:19:49.000 Strong candidate for Republican in California, number one.
00:19:52.000 Number two is, is it even possible to get hopeful because of, we know, the shenanigans and the rigging and things like that.
00:20:02.000 But a lot of red in California now, too.
00:20:04.000 It's going in that direction.
00:20:06.000 So, curious your thoughts.
00:20:09.000 Oh, boy.
00:20:10.000 California.
00:20:11.000 I think Steve Hilton is thinking of running.
00:20:12.000 I like Steve a lot.
00:20:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:20:14.000 He is thinking about it, actually.
00:20:15.000 And I think Steve would be really interesting to look at if he decides to run.
00:20:18.000 He's a great patriot.
00:20:19.000 And I think he's dynamic enough to be able to make it close.
00:20:23.000 I mean, the likelihood of winning back the governor's race in one year is low.
00:20:26.000 But California moved the most to the right of any state in the country in 2024. It was the most to the right of any state.
00:20:35.000 Look, you got to go county by county.
00:20:37.000 Here's my best piece of advice for Californians is, guys, win back the Orange County congressional seats and then grow out from there because it's local and also national impact that helps us grow our majority, which obviously, you know, leadership only cares about.
00:20:50.000 But honestly, we want to try to get those Democrats out.
00:20:52.000 But California is a long-term project, and I think it's possible maybe 10 years, 15 years.
00:20:57.000 Think about it this way.
00:20:58.000 If you improve California to be one point more Republican for the next 15 years, it becomes a red state.
00:21:05.000 And you say, oh, that's too far out.
00:21:06.000 That's what the Democrats have done to us.
00:21:07.000 That's what they did in Colorado, okay?
00:21:09.000 They said, okay, if we just win by one and a half points for 10, you know, lose less by one and a half points for 10 years, and now Colorado is super, super deep blue.
00:21:16.000 Honestly, that's what Byron did and everyone in Florida.
00:21:19.000 Florida used to be a battleground state.
00:21:21.000 You're like, hey, every year we're just going to make it two points redder.
00:21:23.000 And now you guys are winning races by like 17 points.
00:21:26.000 That's crazy.
00:21:27.000 Look, to add to that point, Florida 35 years ago was a blue state.
00:21:32.000 It was.
00:21:34.000 I mean, obviously it's the best state in the country now, but it was a blue state.
00:21:38.000 But it takes consistency over time.
00:21:40.000 I will tell you, especially in California, it's the same recipe for Lansing, Michigan.
00:21:44.000 You have people in those communities who are frustrated.
00:21:47.000 They just don't know why.
00:21:49.000 The Democrats in California, obviously they have a massive machine.
00:21:53.000 They're talking about some lady running to be governor out there. 1.00
00:21:56.000 I don't know her name.
00:21:56.000 I don't think anybody knows her name because she lost.
00:21:58.000 But anyway.
00:22:00.000 Hillary Clinton.
00:22:01.000 Oh yeah, maybe.
00:22:02.000 It's about consistency over time.
00:22:04.000 That is the key thing in a state like California.
00:22:07.000 And I will also tell you this, if you can slowly move that state, you now shift the electoral college for the presidency and the balance of power in the Senate in a major way.
00:22:17.000 So just be consistent, lock in, see your people every single day.
00:22:22.000 Last thing I'll say real quick.
00:22:23.000 The three issues in Florida, as I was told by the political leadership of that time, was education, crime, and economy.
00:22:32.000 That's what they focused on when Florida was a blue state.
00:22:35.000 Education, crime, and economy.
00:22:39.000 So I would say that's the three areas I probably will focus on in California.
00:22:42.000 And I'll say this.
00:22:43.000 I think that California has this amazing opportunity.
00:22:45.000 Thanks to President Trump.
00:22:47.000 And hear me out.
00:22:48.000 We had Tom Holman here yesterday.
00:22:49.000 I think all of a sudden...
00:22:51.000 When the people of California start to see San Francisco get a little bit cleaner and illegals start to leave their communities and they can thank Republicans for that, I think there's an opportunity to really move people to the right because there will be a before and after picture of when the federal government comes in and starts this mass deportation force in California, which will happen, and these communities start getting liberated.
00:23:09.000 I think there's a great opportunity there to seize on that, lean in on it, and win California back for Republicans.
00:23:17.000 As we step into 2025, the one thing is clear.
00:23:21.000 De-dollarization is accelerating.
00:23:23.000 China and the other BRICS nations are determined to reduce their dependence on the U.S. dollar and establish themselves as global economic superpowers.
00:23:31.000 Their secret weapon?
00:23:33.000 Gold.
00:23:33.000 China resumed buying gold recently.
00:23:36.000 And you know what's even more telling?
00:23:37.000 They underreport their buy.
00:23:38.000 Does that make you wonder why?
00:23:40.000 They recognize its global value and ability to withstand economic shocks.
00:23:44.000 Gold is a global asset with innate value.
00:23:47.000 It's tangible, reliable, and immune to economic manipulation.
00:23:50.000 China and other BRICS countries want to be prepared.
00:23:52.000 Hi there.
00:24:20.000 Lydia from Ohio.
00:24:22.000 If Trump's cabinet is approved, as we assume, and they execute all their tasks as planned, how can they make sure if a Democrat party comes back into power, they don't undo everything the way Biden did with all the executive orders?
00:24:35.000 It's a great question.
00:24:36.000 It is the most important question.
00:24:38.000 The first part is, this is why elections do have consequences.
00:24:41.000 You've got to at least have a blockade somewhere.
00:24:44.000 The second thing is, and I think...
00:24:46.000 The one positive out of COVID-19, it was really a reset, I think, mentally for how people see the country and what they want out of our government.
00:24:55.000 The next year is going to be critical in that step because it is about deportations, economy, border security.
00:25:04.000 Foreign policy.
00:25:05.000 If those things get back in the line the way they need to be, then it gives the voices of all of you here at Turning Point.
00:25:11.000 But then this new ecosystem of alternative media, which is in some respects becoming bigger than big media now, it gives that ability.
00:25:18.000 I think it is bigger.
00:25:19.000 You think it's bigger now?
00:25:20.000 I think alternative media for the right is way bigger than traditional.
00:25:23.000 Yeah, it probably is.
00:25:24.000 But those are the building blocks you need in order to keep these ideas going.
00:25:29.000 Obviously, we have to do the business next year.
00:25:31.000 I don't want to get ahead of myself talking about 2028, but if we do our job next year, not just on Capitol Hill, but also in our communities, continuing the effort of being engaged with voters on the ground, that will keep your majorities in 26, and that will help you hold the White House in 28. Very good.
00:25:50.000 Next question.
00:25:51.000 Chris Nordstrom from Idaho.
00:25:52.000 So, Congressman, would you support a convention of states to propose term limits for Congress?
00:25:58.000 Absolutely.
00:25:59.000 Absolutely.
00:26:04.000 Look, I'll just tell you straight.
00:26:07.000 There's only a handful of colleagues that have really been around a long time.
00:26:11.000 Actually, on the Democrat side of the aisle is where they have members who do not leave.
00:26:16.000 The Republicans, if you look at us, especially over the last decade, members' average term is around six to eight years.
00:26:23.000 On our side, we have some older members, Mr. Lucas of Oklahoma, Mr. Cole of Oklahoma.
00:26:27.000 We have some members that have been in Washington probably since Newt came in.
00:26:31.000 But that's the vast minority on the Republican side of the aisle.
00:26:35.000 But I will tell you, in Florida, we had term limits.
00:26:38.000 I would have never had the opportunity to serve in the state legislature and then have this opportunity now if it wasn't for term limits.
00:26:44.000 So I do believe that people need to move on.
00:26:47.000 Move up or move out.
00:26:49.000 Make room for other people to come in.
00:26:52.000 Next question.
00:26:56.000 How you doing?
00:26:57.000 My name's Jacob Todd.
00:26:58.000 I'm from Louisiana.
00:27:00.000 I was there for January 6th, 2021, and I just wanted to say if there's anything that's in plan for this inauguration to prevent anything like that from ever happening again, especially after Ashley Pabbit.
00:27:12.000 Well, yeah, first of all, I don't know if you got arrested, but hopefully all of them get pardons, so I don't know if you're good.
00:27:16.000 We got to get pardons for all those guys.
00:27:19.000 I agree.
00:27:20.000 Look, I think that...
00:27:22.000 The Speaker is going to make sure that doesn't happen.
00:27:25.000 One of the biggest issues that happened with January 6th is that Nancy Pelosi was derelict in her duty to make sure that the Capitol was secured. 1.00
00:27:32.000 Donald Trump provided 10,000 National Guard troops on January 4th.
00:27:37.000 They were authorized.
00:27:38.000 The mayor of Washington, D.C. put the National Guard on traffic duty.
00:27:43.000 And people need to know this.
00:27:45.000 During January 6th, 2021, this was COVID. Nobody was coming to D.C. So there was no traffic because nobody was driving in to go to work because all of the district was shut down.
00:27:57.000 That what happened was wrong.
00:27:59.000 Nancy Pelosi should have made sure that the place was secured. 0.88
00:28:02.000 And I believe it is correct that then-FBI director Mr. Ray, or he's probably still with us, hasn't resigned yet.
00:28:08.000 They actually transmitted intelligence to the Capitol.
00:28:14.000 They're about concerns on January 6th.
00:28:16.000 We don't know what happened with that because Nancy Pelosi stopped the Oversight Committee from investigating what the Capitol Police knew and when they knew it, and then the J6 Committee was a travesty of justice. 0.96
00:28:27.000 We all know that.
00:28:28.000 Thank you.
00:28:29.000 And Louisiana, we're going to get rid of Bill Cassidy sometime soon.
00:28:31.000 Don't worry.
00:28:32.000 So, yes, next question.
00:28:34.000 Jamie Rappas from the great state of Wisconsin.
00:28:37.000 You know, will we ever find out what happened in Butler?
00:28:41.000 That was the first.
00:28:43.000 Trump rally that CNN carried live.
00:28:46.000 You had the photographer in the well that happened to have, you know, one 3,000-speed camera going and taking pictures of Trump at that immediate moment.
00:28:55.000 So will the American people ever know what really happened that day?
00:28:58.000 Yes.
00:28:59.000 And I would say we're going to get that information probably somewhat sooner rather than later because when you have a change in administration, it's going to open up a lot of things that are going to be investigated.
00:29:10.000 And on top of that...
00:29:12.000 I'm pushing the incoming administration to do a major whistleblower protection program so all the whistleblowers of the Biden administration can come forward and blow the whistle.
00:29:24.000 We have time for one more question.
00:29:26.000 Brenda Gifford, Phoenix, Arizona.
00:29:28.000 Thank you for being here and for all that you do.
00:29:31.000 We keep having a conversation about term limits, and I appreciate what you said, but it seems to me that it's such a catch-22.
00:29:38.000 It's really hard to know the pros and cons.
00:29:42.000 Can you speak to that conundrum a bit, please?
00:29:44.000 In my view, there's only pros, not cons.
00:29:47.000 I know that everybody has a great member of Congress.
00:29:50.000 You have some great ones here in the state of Arizona.
00:29:53.000 They are awesome men.
00:29:54.000 They are patriots.
00:29:56.000 However, nobody is promised anything forever.
00:30:00.000 Not in this life.
00:30:02.000 And I do think that on par, term limits are better off for...
00:30:08.000 I've heard the arguments about how you would lose institutional knowledge.
00:30:12.000 Well, guess what?
00:30:13.000 If you get elected and you're not smart enough to figure this thing out, then you're going to get unelected.
00:30:21.000 I will take the collective wisdom of people who come to Washington or go to a state capitol over those who become so enamored with their own intelligence because they've been there too long, they're stuck in the game, stuck in the process, and do not see what's happening on the ground in the lives of people on a day-to-day basis.
00:30:40.000 Byron Donalds, everybody.
00:30:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:30:46.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:30:48.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.