The Charlie Kirk Show - October 20, 2022


The NHL So White + Against the Great Reset with Michael Walsh


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In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk sits down with Michael Walsh to talk about his new book, The Great Reset. Michael Walsh is a former NHL All-Star writer and the author of Against the Great Reset, a book that explains why the NHL is ruining hockey.

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00:00:00.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, really exciting hour with Michael Walsh.
00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody.
00:00:04.000 He joins us for half the episode, and we talk about the great reset.
00:00:09.000 Super smart guy.
00:00:10.000 Spent time with him, I think it was before COVID.
00:00:13.000 I can't remember the last time I met him.
00:00:14.000 Really smart, awesome guy.
00:00:16.000 And he did a great job explaining the great reset and has an all-star team of writers.
00:00:19.000 And he put together this book against the great reset.
00:00:22.000 I encourage you guys to check it out.
00:00:23.000 And then I go after the NHL.
00:00:25.000 Very important to talk about what the NHL is doing.
00:00:29.000 Sinister, they're destroying hockey.
00:00:31.000 I used to be a big hockey fan.
00:00:32.000 I didn't stop being a hockey fan because of this, but it's really disappointing.
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00:02:18.000 I grew up a hockey fan.
00:02:20.000 I did.
00:02:21.000 Blackhawks were awesome growing up.
00:02:23.000 Jonathan Taves, Patrick Kane.
00:02:26.000 I think three Stanley Cups.
00:02:26.000 They were really good.
00:02:28.000 In fact, check me on that.
00:02:30.000 I know it was at least two.
00:02:32.000 One of the most amazing Stanley Cup victories ever.
00:02:34.000 Chicago quickly became a hockey town.
00:02:37.000 And it was a lot of fun.
00:02:39.000 The whole city came together for it.
00:02:41.000 Everyone would wear Blackhawks jerseys to school.
00:02:43.000 And it was just awesome.
00:02:46.000 It really was.
00:02:47.000 And it was cool because it was a sport that, quite honestly, I didn't understand very well.
00:02:51.000 And it was, you know, a little atypical.
00:02:54.000 And yeah, okay, yeah, three, three Stanley Cups in the early 2000s.
00:02:59.000 But the Hawks were awesome, and it was so much fun.
00:03:01.000 And they took over hockey.
00:03:02.000 I remember when they first drafted or traded for Patrick Kane and Jonathan Taves, it was like one of the coolest things ever.
00:03:08.000 And we had all this hope.
00:03:09.000 And it actually ended up becoming a big thing.
00:03:12.000 And the Hawks have won five total Stanley Cups.
00:03:14.000 Okay, so I really don't follow hockey that closely after the Blackhawks won in 2015.
00:03:20.000 I remember where I was when they won in 2015.
00:03:22.000 We were at our Young Women's Leadership Summit, our Turning Point USA Young Women's Leadership Summit, our first ever.
00:03:27.000 I was watching it at Pheasant Run Hotel in the suburbs of Chicago.
00:03:31.000 Oh, it was six, actually, total Stanley Cups.
00:03:33.000 But anyway, three in my lifetime that I saw.
00:03:35.000 All of them were unique.
00:03:36.000 All of them had different teams.
00:03:36.000 All of them were special.
00:03:38.000 They all played super hard.
00:03:39.000 Okay, but I always thought of the NHL as a kind of really gritty league, kind of anti-woke in a sense, and like the recent phenomena.
00:03:50.000 And it's a really, it's a tough sport.
00:03:52.000 I got to say, I have a lot of respect for hockey players.
00:03:55.000 The amount of work they put in, it is physically exhausting.
00:03:58.000 I think they have the shortest offseason, and they are also the least paid per game per hour as far if you count baseball, basketball, football, hockey as kind of the major four.
00:04:11.000 But you got to have a lot of respect for hockey players.
00:04:13.000 And so with all that being said, the woke mind virus knows no bounds.
00:04:21.000 The woke pathogen has no borders, no barriers.
00:04:26.000 And yes, it's infected the National Basketball Association.
00:04:29.000 It's infected the National Football League.
00:04:31.000 It has infected Major League Baseball.
00:04:33.000 But I think MLB has done a pretty good job of immunizing itself from it.
00:04:37.000 And now it has completely and totally infected the National Hockey League.
00:04:44.000 So I fully admit, I really haven't watched much of a hockey game in seven years.
00:04:47.000 It is a wildly entertaining sport.
00:04:49.000 But now the National Hockey League is going out of their way to pander to woke ideology, diversity, equity, inclusion, affirmative action guidelines, hockey of all sports.
00:05:04.000 Play cut 56.
00:05:06.000 I think the one area that we are feeling positive about is that 38% of our workforce are women.
00:05:16.000 Having said that, we know we have work to do with women of color and you're leaning into that.
00:05:21.000 I think the thing that you should take away from the workforce study is that it is a progressive outlook on how you begin to manage your talent.
00:05:33.000 All right, I'm really getting upset about this.
00:05:34.000 So they want to diversify the National Hockey League.
00:05:38.000 Why don't they want to diversify the National Basketball Association?
00:05:43.000 No one ever talks about that.
00:05:44.000 It's not a very diverse league.
00:05:46.000 What percentage, what is the racial composition makeup of the National Basketball Association?
00:05:52.000 84% black.
00:05:54.000 That's not very diverse.
00:05:55.000 In fact, that's very homogenous.
00:05:58.000 What's the racial composition of the National Football League?
00:06:01.000 My guess would probably be 58% black, 62% black. 0.56
00:06:06.000 Is that right?
00:06:07.000 You could check it.
00:06:08.000 Why is it now that, why can basketball be 84% black or 73% black in 2021?
00:06:17.000 It changes by your...
00:06:18.000 Let's just go by your 70%.
00:06:19.000 Let's just use the use 73.
00:06:21.000 Let's just say 73 is the number. 0.92
00:06:23.000 73% black.
00:06:26.000 The NFL is 71% non-white.
00:06:29.000 That's not very diverse.
00:06:31.000 But now they say, well, we need more diverse NFL coaches.
00:06:34.000 Why?
00:06:34.000 Why don't you want good coaches?
00:06:36.000 You want some diversity hire?
00:06:38.000 All the coaches are white.
00:06:39.000 So what?
00:06:40.000 What does that have to do with anything? 0.99
00:06:42.000 Oh, blacks only want to play for blacks? 1.00
00:06:44.000 Oh, because they're so racist. 1.00
00:06:46.000 How about that Tampa Bay coach?
00:06:47.000 He says, all you guys want to talk about is race all the time.
00:06:49.000 And now the National Hockey League wants to bring in this diversity nonsense. 1.00
00:06:57.000 Look, here's a fact of life. 0.95
00:06:58.000 Hockey is not that popular in the black community.
00:07:01.000 It's not. 0.94
00:07:03.000 Therefore, a lot of black kids aren't playing hockey.
00:07:06.000 Also, it's a very expensive sport.
00:07:10.000 You could try to fix that.
00:07:11.000 You could try to have hockey rinks and all that.
00:07:12.000 It just, there is not a lot of compelling interest in black culture and black America to go play hockey.
00:07:20.000 And by the way, there's a lot in Canada.
00:07:22.000 There's a lot in Minnesota.
00:07:23.000 There's a lot in the Dakotas.
00:07:26.000 Basketball is a cheap sport to play. 0.99
00:07:28.000 And on average, in inner-city America, black families have less income, less money, all that nonsense we always hear because black fathers don't stick around. 0.97
00:07:37.000 And so basketball is a lot more popular. 0.97
00:07:39.000 Let me ask a question.
00:07:40.000 Do you think Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan is more revered in an average black family?
00:07:49.000 Not even close.
00:07:50.000 Do you think an average black kid in Harlem dreams about becoming LeBron James or becoming Alexander Oveshkin, or however you say his last name?
00:08:01.000 I don't even know that's his first name, Alexander.
00:08:02.000 I know like three hockey players right now.
00:08:05.000 What do you think that they dream to become like?
00:08:08.000 So instead of looking at the National Hockey League as being not that interesting for black America, no, they want to now put in new diversity, equity, inclusion guidelines to try to force a recomposition of which, as if race means something, I think race means nothing.
00:08:27.000 Trying to redesign an entire league.
00:08:31.000 Where is ice hockey most popular?
00:08:33.000 Canada, U.S., Czech Republic, Russia, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, England.
00:08:37.000 Now, if I were to just venture a guess, I would imagine the National Hockey League probably per capita has more foreign players than basketball and football.
00:08:46.000 That's probably a guess, a good guess.
00:08:47.000 And they come from predominantly white countries. 1.00
00:08:52.000 And so now the NHL has this new diversity, equity, inclusion czar, this woman, Kim Davis.
00:09:00.000 And look, this is going to sound cruel, and I don't care.
00:09:03.000 If you've never played the sport, I don't want to hear from you.
00:09:07.000 I'm sorry, at any level.
00:09:09.000 Has Kim Davis played hockey? 0.98
00:09:10.000 Maybe she has.
00:09:11.000 Maybe I'm wrong here.
00:09:12.000 Has she played men's hockey?
00:09:13.000 I doubt it.
00:09:14.000 Okay.
00:09:16.000 This is the way to respond to this.
00:09:18.000 This is Todd Bowles, the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Play Cut 75.
00:09:22.000 You, you and Mike Tomlin are two of the few blackhead coaches in the league.
00:09:25.000 I wonder what your relationship is like with them and your thoughts on Steve Wilkes joining that vote.
00:09:30.000 I have a very good relationship with Tomlin.
00:09:33.000 We don't look at what color we are when we coach against each other.
00:09:37.000 We just know each other.
00:09:38.000 I have a lot of very good white friends that coach in this league as well.
00:09:42.000 And I don't think it's a big deal as far as us being coaching against each other.
00:09:47.000 I think it's normal.
00:09:48.000 Wilkes got an opportunity to do a good job.
00:09:50.000 Hopefully, he does it.
00:09:51.000 And we coach ball.
00:09:52.000 We don't look at color.
00:09:54.000 But you also understand that representation matters too, right?
00:09:57.000 And that when you have aspiring coaches, so even football players, they see you guys.
00:10:01.000 You know, they see someone that looks like them, thinks he grew up like them.
00:10:04.000 That has to be something.
00:10:06.000 Well, when you say you see you guys and look like them and grow up like them, mean that we're oddballs to begin with.
00:10:12.000 And I think the minute you guys start making a big deal about it, everybody else will as well. 0.91
00:10:18.000 It's the perfect answer to that bigot racist. 0.67
00:10:21.000 And I do stand corrected. 0.74
00:10:22.000 Kim Davis was a female hockey player, but she hasn't played men's hockey.
00:10:25.000 I don't want to hear about it if you haven't played in the sport you're supposed to talk about.
00:10:29.000 This is so interesting.
00:10:30.000 You read this 24-page report, accelerating diversity inclusion in hockey.
00:10:37.000 The NHL is not racist, it's a sport white people play more and like more than black people.
00:10:42.000 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:10:44.000 There's more blacks in the NBA than whites.
00:10:46.000 I have no problem with that. 0.99
00:10:48.000 But our evil media and our evil elites think that white equals evil, so they want it destroyed. 0.99
00:10:54.000 And the weak leaders of the NHL sit by while this Kim Davis activist tries to destroy hockey. 0.92
00:11:03.000 You know, one of our listeners said, what about golf?
00:11:05.000 Yeah, they're next.
00:11:07.000 Boy, I can't wait for the wokeys to go after golf. 0.99
00:11:09.000 Woohoo!
00:11:10.000 That'll be so great for all those Yaley woke activists that are talking about their donations to BLM on the golf course.
00:11:16.000 Oh, you're not equitable enough.
00:11:17.000 You can only golf once a week.
00:11:19.000 You can only golf once a year.
00:11:23.000 Hey, Charlie Kirk here.
00:11:24.000 When it comes to liberals in Congress, there's no way they would accept term limits on themselves.
00:11:28.000 And yet now they're fighting tooth and nail to impose term limits on Supreme Court justices.
00:11:33.000 Term limits for thee, but not for me. 0.96
00:11:36.000 Sounds completely hypocritical. 0.89
00:11:37.000 Of course it is. 0.94
00:11:38.000 But since when has that ever been a problem for the American left?
00:11:41.000 They do whatever they want to try to seize more power, even if it means purging the Supreme Court of its most experienced justices.
00:11:47.000 To no one's surprise, their new court purging scheme would remove long-serving, amazing justices like the super brilliant Clarence Thomas and the courageous Samuel Alito.
00:11:57.000 They would then replace these new justices with a rubber stamp and their radical agenda.
00:12:02.000 Since Democrats are working hard to pass court purging with term limits, we need to work even harder to stop it, or the Supreme Court, as we know it, will never be the same.
00:12:09.000 If you care about the integrity of the Supreme Court and don't want to see it taken over by political hacks, go to supremecoup.com.
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00:12:20.000 You know, if you ask most people that are white in America, they have this white guilt complex. 0.88
00:12:28.000 I think that there's been so much damage done to America with white guilt. 0.74
00:12:32.000 It's very powerful.
00:12:33.000 Shelby Steele, I think, is the most articulate person on the danger and the damage of white guilt.
00:12:40.000 So you look at the NHL.
00:12:41.000 What percentage of the NHL is white players?
00:12:44.000 85%, 90%.
00:12:46.000 So what's wrong with that?
00:12:49.000 You have an automatic proclivity to say, oh, there was something wrong with that.
00:12:52.000 We must change it.
00:12:53.000 We must change it.
00:12:53.000 Why?
00:12:55.000 Why is that a bad thing?
00:12:57.000 Why is that something you all of a sudden must act as if it needs mass redistribution? 0.95
00:13:01.000 And that lunatic racist that asked the question to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach says, representation matters. 0.94
00:13:09.000 No, it doesn't. 0.98
00:13:10.000 Why does any of this matter?
00:13:11.000 Why does the skin color matter? 1.00
00:13:13.000 You're focusing on something completely and totally immaterial.
00:13:17.000 But they want you to fall for the trap that white person means evil. 0.96
00:13:22.000 That white equals bad, white equals wrong. 1.00
00:13:26.000 And look, for years, the Republican Party attacked this race stuff similarly to kind of how I started with this.
00:13:33.000 And it's not bad.
00:13:34.000 It's not wrong. 0.84
00:13:35.000 I just don't think it's as effective as it could be.
00:13:37.000 Where the Republican Party made the point for decades: like, oh, look at the NBA, look at this.
00:13:42.000 Okay, that's that's a fair point.
00:13:43.000 It's true.
00:13:44.000 But you go even deeper.
00:13:45.000 You got to attack it at its core.
00:13:46.000 You got to trust.
00:13:48.000 You got to hit it right at its pass. 0.78
00:13:50.000 You got to kind of get it right at the pass, which is this is anti-white. 0.52
00:13:54.000 That's what it all is.
00:13:56.000 You read this 24-page report from the NHL, Accelerating Diversity and Inclusion, embedded in the entire thing.
00:14:04.000 Is there something wrong with white people? 0.54
00:14:08.000 It says here: hockey, in many respects, is a universal language. 0.99
00:14:12.000 And they have a gay flag here. 0.96
00:14:15.000 This commissioner, Gary Bettman, very weak person, goes to the whole thing. 0.95
00:14:20.000 We need to diversify the youth hockey ecosystem.
00:14:23.000 Why?
00:14:24.000 What's the goal here?
00:14:25.000 Why do you need to do that?
00:14:26.000 Combating racism and discrimination through education and accountability.
00:14:31.000 Oh, they have an NHL hotline to all the leagues and players to report instances of unethical conduct.
00:14:39.000 Dimension one, leadership.
00:14:40.000 Dimension two, education.
00:14:42.000 Dimension three, employment.
00:14:45.000 Improve recruiting and hiring and development practices throughout hockey to increase BIPOC, which is, I think, people of color.
00:14:53.000 I don't know what the bi stands for. 0.96
00:14:56.000 Is that bisexual, indigenous people of color? 0.66
00:14:59.000 Oh, black, okay, sorry. 1.00
00:15:02.000 Black, indigenous, and people of color.
00:15:05.000 It's hard to keep up with the intersectionality.
00:15:07.000 Black, indigenous people of color, not bisexual, indigenous people of color.
00:15:12.000 I'm sure that would be fine too with them. 0.55
00:15:13.000 I'm sure if the person was bisexual, they would get promoted. 0.94
00:15:17.000 Marketing.
00:15:19.000 Further develop content and communication strategies to increase and expand the appeal of hockey to young and diverse audiences.
00:15:26.000 I do have to say what the NBA thing is: do you think the NBA has a report to try to recruit more white people to the league?
00:15:32.000 Yeah, we need to have a diversity report to go get more white folks to go play basketball. 0.76
00:15:36.000 Not exactly a concern for them. 0.99
00:15:37.000 Then they have partnerships in their 24-page report.
00:15:40.000 Then participation and community engagement.
00:15:44.000 Build community affairs, engagement, and affairs that improve the lives of BIPOC and historically marginalized groups.
00:15:52.000 Historically marginalized groups.
00:15:55.000 Workforce demographic study. 0.91
00:15:56.000 Of course, they got all the gay stuff here. 0.99
00:15:58.000 Our workforce demographic study is in the most progressive demographic survey.
00:16:01.000 Just curious, the average hockey fan that goes to a Calgary Flames game or a Chicago Blackhawks or the Avalanche or the San Jose Sharks, an average hockey fan, do you think they're marching in gay pride parades?
00:16:18.000 What percentage of hockey fans do you think are actively involved in like gay activism?
00:16:25.000 And they're doing this to NASCAR too.
00:16:27.000 So then they have this report of their racial demographics as if it's some sort of problem.
00:16:31.000 83% white of the NHL and its clubs and employees.
00:16:36.000 Ooh, that's bad.
00:16:37.000 We must change that.
00:16:38.000 Oh, then they have one on sexual orientation.
00:16:41.000 Workforce demographic survey results.
00:16:44.000 That 93% of the people in the NHL are straight or heterosexual.
00:16:49.000 1% are bisexual and 1% are gay.
00:16:53.000 But only here, the little side note: 1% of their employees are veterans or active members.
00:16:58.000 Yeah, maybe you should expand that before you talk about some sort of diversity report.
00:17:02.000 Incredible.
00:17:04.000 And then looking ahead, how can we change it?
00:17:06.000 We've got to change our fan code of conduct.
00:17:09.000 They have a new relaunch that hockey is for everyone.
00:17:13.000 It's actually not for everyone.
00:17:14.000 Hockey wasn't for me.
00:17:15.000 I could barely skate.
00:17:16.000 It's not true.
00:17:17.000 Hockey's not for everyone.
00:17:19.000 I'm an awful ice skater.
00:17:20.000 Just don't lie.
00:17:21.000 It's not for everyone.
00:17:23.000 It's for people that want to work really hard and develop a very specific skill and beat their body up.
00:17:28.000 God bless them.
00:17:28.000 It's not for everyone, actually.
00:17:30.000 We shouldn't lie to people.
00:17:31.000 And it goes through team after team after team of what they're doing.
00:17:34.000 It's sick.
00:17:35.000 The left destroys everything it touches, and it's well on its way of destroying hockey as we know it.
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00:18:45.000 Joining us now is Michael Walsh, author of Against the Great Reset: 18 Theses Contra the New World Order, with contributions from Victor Davis Hansen, Douglas Murray, Roger Kimball, Angelo Cotavia, may he rest in peace, James Poulos, Conrad Black, Michael Anton, David Goldman, Janice Fimengio, John Tierney, Harry Stein, and more.
00:19:07.000 And edited by Matt Walsh.
00:19:09.000 That's a really great list.
00:19:10.000 My goodness.
00:19:11.000 Michael Walsh, welcome to the program.
00:19:13.000 Hey, thanks, Charlie.
00:19:14.000 It's good to see you again.
00:19:15.000 Tell us about your book.
00:19:15.000 Yeah, you too.
00:19:17.000 Well, it's not edited by Matt Walsh.
00:19:20.000 It's edited by Michael Walsh.
00:19:22.000 I have a problem being confused.
00:19:24.000 Sorry if I say it so often, so I apologize.
00:19:29.000 I know you do, my younger colleague.
00:19:31.000 The idea behind the book is it's a direct attack on the great reset.
00:19:35.000 And I know, Charlie, you've talked about it a lot, and many of our colleagues in the conservative movement have talked about it.
00:19:41.000 But very briefly, it's an idea that arose at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
00:19:48.000 It's been kicking around for some years now.
00:19:50.000 And generally on the left, it's been dismissed by our ideological opponents as a conspiracy theory.
00:19:59.000 And yet the World Economic Forum, under the direction of Klaus Schwab, is quite open about their ambition for the world, which is, to put it in a nutshell, you will own nothing and be happy.
00:20:13.000 So as we said, as I say in the introduction to this book, this is our salvo, opening salvo, against Davos, against the Great Reset, against Schwab, against their plutocrats who would keep all of us basically confined to high-rise buildings, driving electric cars when and if they allow you to have them, and of course, eating bugs instead of beef, because after all, cows are killing the planet.
00:20:43.000 So that's the background.
00:20:45.000 It's Against the Great Reset, edited by Michael Walsh, just so we're clear.
00:20:49.000 That's a spirit.
00:20:50.000 Yeah.
00:20:50.000 And so, Michael, let me ask you: what do you think?
00:20:55.000 What's your theory of why they want this?
00:20:58.000 It's debated.
00:20:59.000 Intentions are hard to pinpoint, but I think it's very important.
00:21:02.000 Why do they want digital ID and digital banking?
00:21:06.000 What does success look like for them?
00:21:09.000 Well, I think it's just a matter of control, Charlie.
00:21:12.000 My last book was a bestseller called Last Stands, which was a military history book of why men fight when all is lost.
00:21:22.000 And why they fight is because they're standing for something.
00:21:27.000 And mostly they're trying to protect what they have, their families, their possessions, their country, their honor, their duty.
00:21:35.000 None of this stuff means anything to these oligarchs who, remember, they have more money than ever was in Crassus' wildest dreams at the beginning of the first triumph with Caesar and Pompey.
00:21:50.000 They are so rich and they're so used to having people do exactly what they tell them to do that they've decided to impose this on us by a combination of guilt-tripping over this imaginary threat of climate change and sheer force.
00:22:09.000 So these are very rich people.
00:22:10.000 Schwab is just the bond villain sort of front man.
00:22:14.000 But King Charles of England is one of them.
00:22:18.000 They bring in businessmen from all over the world, including the technocrats and the Silicon Valley people.
00:22:25.000 And they've realized that what COVID was, and this is the main point, COVID was the warm-up act for what the Great Reset wants to do.
00:22:34.000 So they were astounded, as they've said themselves in public and in print.
00:22:39.000 They were astounded that everyone went so meekly under house arrest for two years over absolutely nothing.
00:22:49.000 Nothing.
00:22:51.000 But now they know the First Amendment means absolutely zero.
00:22:56.000 You have no right to free speech.
00:22:58.000 You certainly have no right to free assembly.
00:23:01.000 You have no right to practice your religion. 1.00
00:23:03.000 They outlawed that.
00:23:04.000 The churches, of course, rolled right over, the synagogues too.
00:23:08.000 So we all showed them we were, as the verse goes from Handel's Messiah, we like sheep have gone astray.
00:23:15.000 No, we went right into the pen that they had prepared for us.
00:23:19.000 And now what are we going to do about it?
00:23:20.000 So against the Great Reset, I brought together some of the best writers and thinkers in the conservative movement, all very established people, to analyze this thing in each aspect of it.
00:23:34.000 So, the economic, the social, the artistic, the world political, the nation from the view of the nation state, as Roger Kimball did for us.
00:23:43.000 So, we wanted to just dissect these people.
00:23:46.000 And now, Charlie, it's up to you and your guys, much younger people.
00:23:51.000 I'm going to be 73 years old on Sunday.
00:23:54.000 I can't believe it, from boy wonder to broken down old man in the blink of an eye, but it'll happen to you too.
00:24:01.000 So, that's right.
00:24:03.000 No doubt.
00:24:04.000 But I need people, and we need people your age, and you're doing a great job already, but to get in the game.
00:24:11.000 And Steve Bannon has been very helpful, of course, pushing this book on the war room and letting people know about it.
00:24:18.000 But the way I look at it is this: what you do, and what other people, your generation, are doing is mobilizing the youth and getting a ground game going, which we're all kind of too old and set in our ways now to do that.
00:24:34.000 But there has to be an intellectual component to this movement.
00:24:37.000 Remember, Bolshevism was an intellectual movement that opportunistically took over a revolution that had already happened, which was the first revolution against the Tsar.
00:24:48.000 So, Lenin and his crew were ready, willing, and able, tan, rested, and ready, but you don't get tammed in Russia.
00:24:55.000 But, you know, in St. Petersburg.
00:24:58.000 No, except maybe in the middle of the night, June 26th.
00:25:03.000 Yeah, for four days.
00:25:05.000 But they were ready for it.
00:25:06.000 They were ready for it.
00:25:07.000 And so they moved in and they had a whole cadre of people who had been steeped in the intellectual theory of Marxism.
00:25:14.000 And that's the crucial thing.
00:25:16.000 We are now trying to steep your generation in the intellectual theory of freedom and capitalism.
00:25:23.000 And I went to college between 1967 and 71.
00:25:27.000 So that was the belly of the Beast.
00:25:29.000 There was Herbert Marcuse, it was in every classroom.
00:25:33.000 The Vietnam War was going on.
00:25:34.000 There were protests.
00:25:35.000 There were riots, 1968, worst year in American history, up until probably recently, where you had the Chicago riots at the convention, the Democratic Convention.
00:25:46.000 You had race riots after the assassination of Martin Luther King.
00:25:50.000 You had other disturbances around the time of Bobby Kennedy's assassination.
00:25:56.000 And, you know, those were just the first 10 months of the year.
00:25:58.000 So it was a momentous time.
00:26:01.000 And a lot of the guys and girls in my generation were educated under that regime.
00:26:07.000 We have to break that.
00:26:09.000 So all we can do now, and I'm saying this to you and to all of your younger listeners, because everybody's younger than me now, is learn the principles before you go into battle.
00:26:22.000 My book, Last Stands, was a military history book.
00:26:25.000 The book I'm writing right now, which is a sequel to it, is actually about pivotal, epical battles that changed history overnight.
00:26:33.000 And there were many of them.
00:26:34.000 One of them, of course, is Alexander the Great against Darius at Galgamella.
00:26:40.000 The second one was Caesar at Alesia, where he defeated Vercingetorix and the Gauls and therefore turned France basically into a colony of the Roman Empire.
00:26:49.000 One of the crucial ones I'm writing about right now is the Battle of the Milvian Bridge, which no one's ever heard of, but it absolutely changed world history.
00:26:57.000 Because when I tell you what it was, you'll know it immediately.
00:27:00.000 It was the fight between Constantine the Great, Bladder the Great, and his co-emperor in the Western Roman Empire, Maxencius, for supremacy.
00:27:09.000 And once Constantine won that fight, he then later converted to Christianity and made Christianity legal throughout the empire.
00:27:18.000 Later on, it became the official religion of the Roman Empire.
00:27:22.000 But without that battle at the Milvian Bridge in the early fourth century, the world would have a completely different look and feel and be a different place.
00:27:32.000 So we can do that.
00:27:34.000 The little things, the little details are what counts.
00:27:38.000 And if you have, I have one more quick anecdote, which is simple.
00:27:42.000 As you know, I was one of the first editors at Breitbart.
00:27:45.000 Andrew and I started, Andrew started the big sites and he asked me to be big journalism editor.
00:27:53.000 So it was just a few of us at that time.
00:27:56.000 And cut to 2017.
00:27:59.000 And President Trump is in the Oval Office, and I'm in the executive office building talking with Mike Anton, who's a contributor to this book, and Sebastian Gorca.
00:28:13.000 And I was saying, as we looked out at the West Wing, I said, you know, guys, seven years ago, it was five guys with laptops who decided to take on the media and take on the narrative.
00:28:25.000 And we had a charismatic leader, Andrew Breitbart.
00:28:28.000 And seven years later, Donald Trump's in the Whiteness.
00:28:32.000 That's how fast it can happen if you understand the principles you're fighting for.
00:28:36.000 That's right.
00:28:36.000 And you're creative and you're energetic.
00:28:38.000 And that is so powerful.
00:28:40.000 What is Angelo Cotavilla's contribution to this?
00:28:43.000 Because may he rest in peace, one of the smartest thinkers the last couple decades.
00:28:47.000 I'm just curious, kind of what's his, just generally without giving away the details, his contribution.
00:28:51.000 Yeah, he's talking about the educational system.
00:28:54.000 So Angelo, who was such a dear man and dear friend to all of us, talks about resetting the educational reset.
00:29:03.000 Angelo was, as a teacher, was very focused on what the education system has done to the younger generation of Americans over the course of, say, at least two generations now.
00:29:16.000 And so he outlines the problem beautifully, as he always did, and then gives you some specifics on how to fight back.
00:29:23.000 And that's the key.
00:29:24.000 You know, we booked the book opened huge on Amazon two days ago.
00:29:28.000 And so I'm getting a lot of email from people.
00:29:30.000 And they're saying, well, we just don't need somebody to tell us what is wrong.
00:29:34.000 We know something's wrong.
00:29:35.000 What are we supposed to do about it?
00:29:36.000 That's not our job, Charlie.
00:29:38.000 It's not our job to go into the streets with a political program.
00:29:42.000 It's our job to give your generation the tools to do that.
00:29:47.000 So here's the spear.
00:29:48.000 We're too old to carry the swords into battle.
00:29:51.000 You guys have to do it.
00:29:52.000 Here's how you do it.
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00:30:51.000 I just asked my team to go buy a couple of copies of this Against the Great Reset, edited by Michael Walsh.
00:30:56.000 I mean, it is a team of all-stars.
00:30:58.000 Michael, just getting these people together and consolidating them, congratulations.
00:31:03.000 I mean, I know some of the characters involved here to get them to agree to do anything that is not their own.
00:31:10.000 I mean, you got Conrad Black and VDH and Douglas Murray.
00:31:13.000 How'd you pull that off?
00:31:15.000 Well, it helps to have a good roll decks, which I've developed over the years.
00:31:20.000 You know, as you know, Charlie, I spent 25 years in mainstream journalism, the last 16 of them at Time Act.
00:31:29.000 And in that capacity, I was the classical music critic of time, but I was also a foreign correspondent, which meant that I was in Berlin when the wall came down in 1989.
00:31:40.000 I was in Russia when Chernobyl blew up in 1986.
00:31:45.000 I had quite a front row seat for the fall of communism.
00:31:48.000 And I gradually moved into political commentary after I stopped writing about music and became both a novelist and a nonfiction writer.
00:31:57.000 And most of the people in this book are personal friends of mine.
00:32:00.000 Some I had never met, such as Conrad, but I think we have a very cordial relationship.
00:32:05.000 It's not easy putting together the 1927 Yankees of consumer.
00:32:08.000 No, seriously, that's what you've done here.
00:32:11.000 It's Mickey Mantle, and it's, I think Mickey Mantle's at later.
00:32:15.000 That was Beyond 27.
00:32:16.000 But this is Babe Ruther.
00:32:19.000 Yeah, I was going to say that my Yankee history is way off.
00:32:22.000 Lou Gehrig.
00:32:23.000 Lou Garrigan.
00:32:23.000 Lou Garrick.
00:32:24.000 Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, and all that.
00:32:25.000 Now we're back into the strike zone.
00:32:28.000 So, yeah, I mean, I could get broad or particular here.
00:32:32.000 Either way you want to kind of go against.
00:32:34.000 But, you know, when you have this kind of talent and you kind of get them together, I guess you chose the Great Reset because I think you probably believe it's an issue that transcends others, right?
00:32:45.000 It's geopolitical.
00:32:46.000 Political, it's philosophical.
00:32:47.000 Talk about that.
00:32:48.000 Yeah, well, we have a website called the-pipeline.org, thepipeline.org.
00:32:53.000 And it's devoted to energy issues originally, but it has grown to encompass climate change and the COVID lockdowns, the loss of freedom.
00:33:02.000 It's become a freedom site, which I encourage people to log into.
00:33:06.000 And once a day, we put up a major piece by somebody like with the caliber of all these guys.
00:33:06.000 It's free.
00:33:12.000 Anyway, the point was that we decided we wanted to do some books based on our website that would grow out of our website.
00:33:19.000 So this is the first one.
00:33:20.000 It's called Against the Great Reset.
00:33:21.000 There'll be more Against Your Name Here.
00:33:24.000 You know, when we pick you, we'll go get you.
00:33:27.000 But the key of this book was in putting the team together, I asked them to do one thing.
00:33:34.000 Do not write as if you're being published tomorrow, because we all live in the web 24-7.
00:33:40.000 I said, you're writing for a book that's going to come out a year and a half from now.
00:33:43.000 That's smart.
00:33:44.000 I'm going to edit it very rigorously.
00:33:46.000 And I did, believe me, because I spent 16 years of time and I know what rigorous editing is.
00:33:51.000 That must have been fun editing all these guys.
00:33:53.000 I mean, they're all best-selling authors.
00:33:53.000 Geez.
00:33:55.000 So that must have been fun.
00:33:57.000 And you know what?
00:33:58.000 They were absolutely sweethearts.
00:34:00.000 Nobody gave me any trouble.
00:34:01.000 That's amazing.
00:34:02.000 That just shows you.
00:34:03.000 That means you're a good editor.
00:34:04.000 No, no, that means you're a good editor.
00:34:05.000 That means they respect you.
00:34:06.000 You don't edit Douglas Murray unless he respects you, but continue playing.
00:34:10.000 Yes.
00:34:11.000 Anyway, we put the team together and they did a great job and we got the book out on time.
00:34:15.000 But I want to just show the cover, if I may discover there, maybe you could.
00:34:20.000 Yeah, it's yellow, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:34:22.000 Yeah, here it is.
00:34:23.000 So it's got the European sign for stop, right?
00:34:27.000 So that's the correct sign from the upper left to lower right.
00:34:34.000 We did this because, first of all, we wanted stop.
00:34:36.000 Second of all, we are part of an intellectual tradition of against books.
00:34:41.000 And I mentioned some of them in the introduction, going all the way back to Cicero's Philippics against Mark Anthony, Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, the great philosopher, against Richard Wagner.
00:34:52.000 So we wanted to be in that tradition.
00:34:53.000 But I also want to appeal again to your generation, to what you did with Turning Point, with the young people that you've got involved.
00:35:00.000 In the 60s, at the risk of sounding really like an old guy now, everybody took to the streets.
00:35:06.000 We fought.
00:35:07.000 We fought among each other.
00:35:09.000 The great battle that you're witnessing right now in the United States and elsewhere is the final battle among the baby girls.
00:35:16.000 We were the largest generation.
00:35:18.000 We would show up at kindergarten and there were 50 other kids in class.
00:35:22.000 We've had to compete like rats in a maze for everything we've got.
00:35:26.000 And we hate the other guy.
00:35:28.000 A lot of us have died off, but not enough.
00:35:30.000 So, you're still witnessing this battle.
00:35:32.000 And I want young people to get that 60 spirit.
00:35:35.000 You know, that was the time of the Beatles and the Stones and Led Zeppelin and the Who, and the music was great, and the political ferment was great.
00:35:43.000 And I see too many young people, you're much closer to them than I am, obviously, but are apathetic.
00:35:48.000 They don't care.
00:35:49.000 My vote doesn't count.
00:35:49.000 What's the point?
00:35:51.000 I don't want to get involved.
00:35:52.000 What if they do something to me?
00:35:53.000 Blah, blah, blah.
00:35:54.000 Enough already.
00:35:56.000 Just enough already. 1.00
00:35:57.000 Get a mid and get the game.
00:35:59.000 You too can join the 2017 Games.
00:36:02.000 I highly encourage this book.
00:36:03.000 It's a team of all stars.
00:36:04.000 It's rigorously edited.
00:36:05.000 Have you back?
00:36:06.000 Got to have you back on, Michael.
00:36:07.000 Great to see you again.
00:36:08.000 Thank you for the great work.
00:36:09.000 Against the great reset.
00:36:10.000 Everyone, pick up a copy.
00:36:13.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:15.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:36:18.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:36:20.000 God bless.
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