The Charlie Kirk Show - The Nursing Home Ruling Class with Rep. Matt Gaetz

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00:00:02.000 We reflect on the death of Diane Feinstein.

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00:01:32.000 The breaking news today, which is worth some examination and reflection, is the passing of Senator Dianne Feinstein.

00:01:40.000 We don't celebrate the death of our political adversaries.

00:01:43.000 We are not on the left.

00:01:44.000 We wish her family well.

00:01:46.000 It's not easy to lose a loved one.

00:01:48.000 And I pray for her, I pray for her in eternity.

00:01:52.000 I have no idea what any decisions she made at the end of her life.

00:01:55.000 But let's focus on her political career.

00:01:57.000 Diane Feinstein, here's a fact. 1.00

00:02:00.000 She was a United States Senator longer than I have been alive.

00:02:04.000 31 years.

00:02:07.000 That means today, Friday, September 29th, is the first day that I am alive that Diane Feinstein is not a U.S. Senator.

00:02:16.000 My entire life, every single day, has been filled with Senator Diane Feinstein.

00:02:16.000 Think about that.

00:02:23.000 Her whole life was about advancing in politics, and she was pretty good at it. 0.98

00:02:27.000 Really ambitious, scrappy, willing to make deals. 1.00

00:02:31.000 She kind of made a whole campaign around an extension of the feminine mystique. 1.00

00:02:38.000 We've kind of played around with this feminine mystique, modern woman doctrine that was composed by Betty Fredan.

00:02:47.000 If you want to know where the American feminist movement started, the feminine mystique is a really good place as a genesis or an origination.

00:02:56.000 A lot of it came out of California and Diane Feinstein was perfectly positioned in California. 0.99

00:03:00.000 Former mayor of San Francisco, similar to Gavin Newsom. 0.93

00:03:04.000 She was actually a better mayor than Gavin Newsome was.

00:03:06.000 San Francisco was still a respectable city back then.

00:03:08.000 But it was all about progress, all about bringing forth the revolution.

00:03:12.000 In 1978, she held a press conference following the killing of San Francisco mayor George Muscone and supervisor Harvey Milk.

00:03:20.000 Muscon's designated successor was in office a few feet away from the shooting.

00:03:24.000 She said, I heard shots.

00:03:25.000 I heard three, Feinstein said.

00:03:27.000 And in 79, all throughout gay power, there was this one thing. 0.87

00:03:31.000 She was one of the leaders of the gay power march of 15,000 marchers, also carrying candles during a march to remember Harvey Milk.

00:03:39.000 By the way, Harvey Milk was not a good guy.

00:03:40.000 Let's just be clear. 0.67

00:03:41.000 This whole romanticizing of Harvey Milk is honestly reprehensible and disgusting.

00:03:46.000 That's a separate show for a different time.

00:03:48.000 But Diane Feinstein dedicated her life to the revolution.

00:03:52.000 We've said many times that we are living through a cultural revolution.

00:03:56.000 Honestly, she would be one of the top 10 most important people that dedicated every ounce of being to immunitizing the escaton.

00:04:07.000 Now, that is a rather wonky academic term that William F. Buckley used to say, which means we're trying to immunitize the perfection.

00:04:16.000 For Christians out there, you know what the escaton is. 0.96

00:04:19.000 That is when Christ will come again.

00:04:20.000 They're trying to bring forth utopia on earth.

00:04:24.000 Feinstein looked at her entire career as a way to accelerate the progressive revolution.

00:04:32.000 Abortion was one of her biggest issues, obviously, and not just safe, legal, and rare abortion.

00:04:37.000 We're talking about the most radical, unthinkable, heinous abortion practices, abortion right up until the baby is born.

00:04:46.000 She also focused a ton of attention, especially in 2012 through 14, on gun confiscation, especially after the Sandy Hook shooting, when she still had a little bit of spirit.

00:04:58.000 She led all in on trying to confiscate our weapons.

00:05:02.000 Now, before I get misunderstood by making it seem as if I'm giving some sort of a positive reflection on Diane Feinstein's life, I think it's important to note that it's hard to find a figure in modern politics who loved power, who loved being a politician, who dedicated their life to the expansion of the state and the destruction and the refounding of America as much as Diane Feinstein.

00:05:32.000 Maybe Nancy Pelosi, interestingly enough, from the same city, maybe Pelosi.

00:05:37.000 Feinstein believed that political power was the most important thing a human being can engage in.

00:05:46.000 And you think about it, part of this is actually really sad.

00:05:49.000 While I don't believe that retirement is something that we should necessarily overly platform in our country, I think some people retire when there is way too much potential still left.

00:06:01.000 I don't think that it's a good thing to say that someone who is cognitively impaired had one of the most important positions in the entire U.S. government.

00:06:12.000 Instead of her spending her last few years with her grandkids, she was too busy on subcommittees about renaming post offices and sending foreign aid to Namibia or Kenya.

00:06:24.000 But for her, that was the most important thing.

00:06:28.000 For her, being a senator all up until her death was the ultimate purpose because she believed, as Hegel believed, that the state is the closest thing to God on this earth.

00:06:44.000 Now, all the eulogies are coming in for Diane Feinstein.

00:06:47.000 They're saying she is an amazingly dedicated leader.

00:06:50.000 She's an inspiration to women everywhere.

00:06:53.000 And that's an interesting question.

00:06:55.000 Is Diane Feinstein a good role model for women?

00:07:00.000 Is Diane Feinstein somebody that we should lift up like Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Nancy Pelosi?

00:07:08.000 You see, you look at how the media goes all in on the eulogizing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Feinstein, perfect examples, incredibly radical.

00:07:19.000 They want young women to look up to them.

00:07:22.000 Why?

00:07:24.000 Because they dedicated every ounce of their being towards activism, towards revolutionary type posture.

00:07:35.000 And you're starting to see the news coverage.

00:07:38.000 I'm trying to find it.

00:07:39.000 It was in the cold open.

00:07:40.000 This is a very long cut sheet, but you heard it say, say, you know, she was a trailblazer for women.

00:07:46.000 And again, I'm not celebrating the death of anybody.

00:07:48.000 I don't like it.

00:07:49.000 But it's worth asking: did Diane Feinstein live a good life? 0.86

00:07:55.000 Did she live a virtuous life?

00:07:57.000 Did what she dedicated herself to make America less free or more free?

00:08:03.000 And more importantly, what is the legacy of Diane Feinstein?

00:08:07.000 Is it the fact that she had a Chinese driver for over 20 years?

00:08:11.000 You think about it.

00:08:12.000 They say she was a trailblazer. 1.00

00:08:15.000 She trailblazed for women by sitting in an office so nobody else could have it. 1.00

00:08:20.000 And this is not just isolated to Diane Feinstein.

00:08:23.000 This is in both political parties.

00:08:25.000 And now I'm about to get into a topic that I don't think is going to be very warmly received by a lot of you, but it needs to be said, which is when you have people like Mitch McConnell and Diane Feinstein that are far past their prime, that make the Senate look more like a nursing home with votes than actually a place where robust debate occurs and the representation of voters, that is a bad thing for the country.

00:08:52.000 It's a very bad thing.

00:08:53.000 Now, I say this because some of you are going to say, Charlie, you know, respect your elders.

00:08:58.000 I respect my elders so much that I don't want to have them go through the pain of having to sit on some committee where they obviously are not understanding every word.

00:09:09.000 Mitch McConnell is short-circuiting on a regular basis now.

00:09:14.000 Diane Feinstein was unable to even hear questions recently, as much a couple months ago.

00:09:19.000 Joe Biden, what I'm getting at is that we have a nursing home ruling class running America right now. 0.99

00:09:27.000 And that is not healthy.

00:09:29.000 We are a great country with tons of energy and potential, people that are willing to work the 20-hour days, people that want to start to give their all.

00:09:40.000 But the people that are still at the top level of society are disproportionately mentally incapable, physically incapable at governing their best.

00:09:51.000 And there's another very interesting wrinkle to this because you would think, you would think that when you have a bunch of elderly people, again, there's nothing inherently wrong with it. 0.95

00:10:02.000 Chuck Grassley would be the exception.

00:10:04.000 He has more energy than most 30-year-olds that I know.

00:10:06.000 So he's an exception.

00:10:08.000 But large in part, Biden, Pelosi, McConnell, and now the deceased Feinstein, not the best America has to offer.

00:10:19.000 But what's amazing is that you would think when you have elderly people, they would be temperamentally conservative and politically conservative.

00:10:26.000 It's the opposite.

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00:11:29.000 So what is strange is that if you have a bunch of elderly people that are representing the country, you would think that they would have greatest generation values.

00:11:42.000 This is what is so bizarre.

00:11:46.000 So if you have a bunch of people in their late 80s and early 90s, you would think that they would be against the trans nonsense, believe in a border. 0.99

00:11:57.000 When I meet amazing Americans in their 80s and 90s, they're very, very conservative.

00:12:05.000 It's very hard, very hard to travel the country and find somebody in their early 90s that is flying a trans flag, unless they're being like manipulated by a granddaughter or something else, which is not, it's not kind of a side point. 0.87

00:12:23.000 That's actually what ends up happening, especially with the Senate.

00:12:27.000 But what we have is not only do we have leaders that are cognitively unable to do their job, but they're also progressively radical.

00:12:39.000 You would think that if you have an old ruling class, they would be stodgy and saying no to all the bad ideas and like constantly complaining.

00:12:48.000 Oh, the kids nowadays, they have the purple hair and they're cutting off their breasts and they're taking a Lupron and we don't have a border.

00:12:58.000 I would love that.

00:13:00.000 If we had a bunch of 80-somethings where all they did was complain about left-wing liberalism and do something about it, no problem.

00:13:08.000 Seriously, no problem.

00:13:11.000 Instead, we have elderly men who, you know, their testosterone rates go down as they get older, their estrogen rates increase, so they just lose their spirit. 0.75

00:13:21.000 You see this a lot sometimes where elderly men, they kind of go out of their way to try to find agreement and they get worn down by the fight.

00:13:28.000 I'm going to be, I'm going to be overly generous.

00:13:31.000 Producer and Andrew I were talking about this.

00:13:33.000 He's that the left will wear you down.

00:13:34.000 So some of these elderly men get into their late 80s and they're like, well, why can't we just come together and compromise?

00:13:39.000 And the left, they're revolutionaries.

00:13:40.000 And then the women, they become very hard. 1.00

00:13:43.000 Some of them as they get older, especially in the Senate.

00:13:45.000 Look at Feinstein, look at Pelosi.

00:13:47.000 Look at, I mean, Patty Murray.

00:13:48.000 It's just the roster continues, right? 1.00

00:13:51.000 And they want to white knuckle onto power.

00:13:56.000 And the Senate has for quite some time operated much closer to an elderly person's country club than actually a legislative body.

00:14:06.000 They do very little work.

00:14:07.000 They don't really read bills.

00:14:09.000 They're largely run by their staff, which is interesting because the staff are super radical, like unbelievably radical.

00:14:16.000 So Feinstein wasn't actually doing any work the last year to five years.

00:14:22.000 It was her Berkeley educated, Stanford graduated, you know, UCLA trained staff who believe in all of these revolutionary elements.

00:14:34.000 But it would be one thing to say, well, Charlie, we don't have the ruling class that has the mental capacity to govern.

00:14:40.000 That's totally true.

00:14:42.000 But it's even worse.

00:14:44.000 It's that they're trying to live out their 1960s, early 70s youth while they're 88 years old.

00:14:54.000 They never stopped being hippies.

00:14:58.000 And that's what's so fascinating is that they've never stopped actually being at Woodstock.

00:15:05.000 Feinstein and the rest of them, they have such an attachment to the energy and to the rebellion, to the burn-it-all attitude of SDS, Students for a Democrat Society, to all of the anti-war, anti-establishment movements, that they've never stopped viewing themselves through the lens that they are the revolutionaries, that they are the Bolsheviks.

00:15:33.000 Because you would think that if you have groups of older people, they would at least be concerned about a legacy and conservation. 0.99

00:15:44.000 You would think that if you have a Diane Feinstein, if you have a Joe Biden, if you have a Mitch McConnell, if you have a John Cornyn, any one of these elderly people, you could go Lisk by, I mean, I'm barely touching the service, by the way. 0.93

00:15:58.000 I think the average age in the Senate is like 74.

00:16:01.000 Blake can look it up.

00:16:02.000 Average age.

00:16:04.000 You would think that at some point they would say, we're going to say no.

00:16:09.000 Instead, it's McConnell that is the chief pom-pom waiver for money to Ukraine.

00:16:16.000 None of the geriatric class in the cabal of DC seemed even slightly concerned about borrowing trillions of dollars and handing it to their grandkids.

00:16:29.000 They don't care.

00:16:31.000 And this gets to a much deeper, more troubling moral issue that we are not going to be able to unpack, which is this is the first elderly ruling class in the history of America that intentionally leaves a damaged country for their kids. 0.59

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00:18:41.000 Shifting gears a little bit now to the 9:30 funding fight.

00:18:45.000 Matt Gates joins us, who is really the center of attention right now.

00:18:49.000 Matt, thank you for taking the time.

00:18:51.000 Several questions, but first, I just want to give you an opportunity.

00:18:53.000 What is going on?

00:18:54.000 I mean, look, they say the government's going to shut down tomorrow.

00:18:58.000 Matt, is that going to happen?

00:18:59.000 The House of Representatives has passed bills to fund veterans, to fund our military, the Department of Defense, to fund our state and foreign operations, and to also fund our Department of Homeland Security.

00:19:12.000 The Senate has not passed a single subject bill to fund anything.

00:19:17.000 So we think those are the core functions of government: veterans, military, border, state, and foreign ops.

00:19:23.000 We had the agriculture appropriations bill up last night.

00:19:26.000 I voted for it.

00:19:27.000 Unfortunately, we had some Midwesterners who were not comfortable with the degree of cuts to some of the farming subsidies.

00:19:35.000 And so they brought the bill down.

00:19:36.000 And we'll work through those issues.

00:19:39.000 I think that this is the way to govern.

00:19:40.000 There's going to be moments where a single issue becomes a sticky wicket, and I want to plow through it, get it done.

00:19:47.000 I hope the Senate will take up some of our bills.

00:19:50.000 We should conference those bills and then proceed to get the government funded.

00:19:54.000 So the House has passed it to the Senate, and the Senate is probably not going to do anything.

00:19:58.000 Is that correct?

00:19:59.000 I mean, and by the way, by single issue, did you guys pass an entire budget or just a defense appropriation bill?

00:20:05.000 Which single issue did you guys pass?

00:20:08.000 Yeah, the latter.

00:20:09.000 So we passed a bill for our Department of Defense, for our Department of State and Foreign Ops, for our Department of Homeland Security, and our Department of Veterans Affairs.

00:20:18.000 So those are areas of great focus for a lot of your viewers, for a lot of our fellow Americans.

00:20:25.000 The Senate could take action on those today.

00:20:26.000 Instead, what the Senate wants to do is say, well, we just want to fund everything the way it's always been funded and then maybe negotiate how much additional Ukraine money to add on top of that.

00:20:38.000 We had a majority of the majority, 117 Republicans last night for the first time vote against Ukraine money.

00:20:45.000 So now Ukraine money only exists by virtue of the Democrats, and our leadership should not bring it up ever again.

00:20:52.000 That, I think, is the Senate position.

00:20:55.000 And it is the position that really the federal government has had since the mid-90s, just to take one up or down vote on the funding of the entire government.

00:21:02.000 I don't believe that's the responsible way to put downward pressure on inflationary spending.

00:21:07.000 That's why I think this is a better path.

00:21:09.000 So are there other single-issue bills that you guys are going to pass before tomorrow?

00:21:13.000 I mean, trying to basically, since we're not doing a CR, which I think is a great approach, by the way, you have to probably put together five or six separate single-issue bills, right, to get to the combined totality.

00:21:25.000 Is that correct?

00:21:26.000 Because otherwise a CR.

00:21:28.000 Not all 12 bills are the same, right?

00:21:30.000 So we attempted to pass the agriculture bill.

00:21:34.000 We still have issues to work through on that.

00:21:36.000 If we were to get the agriculture bill passed along with what we've already passed, it's 73% of the discretionary funding for the government.

00:21:44.000 So it is the vast majority of the federal government's function and the spending that Washington approves for our disparate agencies.

00:21:51.000 There would still be work to do.

00:21:52.000 Look, I think there's going to be some real debate around the Department of Justice's bill.

00:21:59.000 I think that one is not first because we'd rather prioritize our veterans, our troops, our Border Patrol over some of the folks at the FBI who aren't answering our requests for documents without putting up a massive fight and don't produce the witnesses in a timely fashion that we want to interview.

00:22:14.000 So I do think there is a reason to the priority that we have chosen, and I think it is sound.

00:22:21.000 So Matt, I want you to try to fill in our audience the best you can of some inside baseball.

00:22:24.000 There were some heated conversations because there's been some vicious and unfair influencer attacks against you.

00:22:29.000 Who are behind these attacks, Matt Gates?

00:22:33.000 I don't know.

00:22:33.000 I saw a bunch of MAGA influencers we know and love post that McCarthy proxies were reaching out to them to ask them to post negative things about me for money.

00:22:44.000 And a lot of those influencers rejected that solicitation and then posted their rejection of it to indicate that they're supportive of the position I've taken to try to get our fiscal house in order.

00:22:57.000 And so we had a meeting of our conference.

00:23:00.000 I simply asked Speaker McCarthy, was it indeed his proxies?

00:23:03.000 Or some lawyer sent out a letter that said he didn't have anything to do with it.

00:23:07.000 And I wanted to know which was true because there was conflicting information. 0.97

00:23:10.000 And it was kind of pathetic to watch. 0.97

00:23:13.000 I mean, he mumbled and grumbled and looked down at his shoes. 0.97

00:23:16.000 And everyone that was in the room could objectively see that when he said that it wasn't him who was behind these things, that that didn't come from a place of great veracity.

00:23:27.000 So Matt, I want to ask you also about this story from Olivia Beavers.

00:23:32.000 I'm sure you've seen it.

00:23:33.000 She's claiming that you're pitching some House Democrats to oust McCarthy from the speakership.

00:23:39.000 What is the truth here?

00:23:40.000 Yeah, no, I am singularly focused on getting our spending bills across the line.

00:23:44.000 That is where my effort has been.

00:23:45.000 Of course, Democrats have come up to me seeking gossip, wanting to know, oh, what are you thinking about the motion to vacate?

00:23:51.000 And I've told them, right now, I'm focused on these bills.

00:23:54.000 We do have to deal with the fact that Kevin McCarthy has been a failure, that Kevin McCarthy has not fulfilled his promises.

00:23:59.000 He hasn't released the January 6th tapes.

00:24:01.000 We haven't seen the budgeting process that was guaranteed to us back in January.

00:24:07.000 So we'll deal with that.

00:24:08.000 We will have to deal with that.

00:24:09.000 It is not my focus now.

00:24:11.000 I'm worried about people who are going to be doing the job of this government that deserve to get a paycheck.

00:24:17.000 And it's not like if we don't get this resolved tomorrow, people are going to miss paychecks, but we do need to get to work.

00:24:23.000 We need to start working 18-hour days.

00:24:25.000 I mean, we were taking votes all night last night, all the way to midnight, same as the night before.

00:24:30.000 We've done more legislating in the last 72 hours around here than we've done in the last eight months.

00:24:35.000 And it's because there are some tough House conservatives who are forcing it.

00:24:40.000 Yeah, and that's inspiring, but also frustrating, Matt.

00:24:43.000 I mean, you guys took the whole month of August off, right?

00:24:45.000 It shouldn't have to be this terror rush, right?

00:24:47.000 I mean, that's look, I don't make the calendar.

00:24:50.000 That's Kevin's fault.

00:24:51.000 That is McCarthy's fault.

00:24:52.000 Kevin McCarthy never intended to do this.

00:24:54.000 He never intended to have single-subject bills.

00:24:56.000 The only reason we're passing them now is because we're making him pass them.

00:24:59.000 And if Kevin McCarthy was at all serious about this, you're totally right.

00:25:02.000 We wouldn't have passed one before the August break and then sent everybody home as the federal appropriation process hung in the balance.

00:25:09.000 So the single subject bills, the Senate's not going to do this like this.

00:25:14.000 The Senate, they're a complete waste of time.

00:25:17.000 So basically, are they going to send back a CR back to the House and then there's going to be an impasse?

00:25:22.000 That's probably what's going to happen, right?

00:25:24.000 Breaking the muscle memory of the Senate is not going to be easy.

00:25:27.000 I don't present that as something that is whimsical in any way, but we have to break the fever.

00:25:34.000 We have to break the muscle memory that has occurred since the mid-90s to govern by continuing resolution and omnibus bill.

00:25:41.000 And remember, what we are continuing: what we are continuing is the post-COVID era funding that grew by 40% during the COVID era.

00:25:51.000 So I just think that, yes, you're right.

00:25:54.000 The Senate is going to be tough.

00:25:55.000 They're going to be recalcitrant.

00:25:56.000 But I think if we had all of our Republicans in the House, if we had the American people saying, look, we know there has to be compromise and divided government.

00:26:03.000 We know that people like Gates are going to have to make some common ground with some Senate Democrats to get the government funded.

00:26:09.000 But the way to do that is not to start with the premise that it's all or nothing, that it's all at once.

00:26:15.000 The premise should be individual review.

00:26:17.000 And then you know what?

00:26:18.000 We may actually get more bipartisan agreement when you're looking at these agencies and programs and different spending priorities that may have lost their efficacy years or decades ago.

00:26:29.000 Yeah, and so there were 117 Republicans who voted against Ukraine funding.

00:26:35.000 There were 20 last time.

00:26:36.000 This is moving very quickly, Matt.

00:26:38.000 We're starting to see two census bills.

00:26:40.000 Can you just talk a little bit about that as far as how you've seen the Overton window shift?

00:26:44.000 I mean, from 20 people voting against Ukraine funding to 117.

00:26:50.000 I mean, when we started with the group of people that did not want our country involved in the Ukraine war, we could have met in the Capitol elevator and still had room for social distancing.

00:26:58.000 Now we're 117 strong.

00:27:00.000 We are a majority of the majority.

00:27:03.000 And that is because Congress is the lagging indicator.

00:27:06.000 Republican voters believe that we've sent enough money to Ukraine, that now we need to focus on our border, our country, the safety on our streets, the quality of education in our schools.

00:27:17.000 I mean, we are literally spending $3.5 billion to retire debt that Ukraine accrued before the war began.

00:27:26.000 So we're going into debt to pay off Ukraine's debt.

00:27:30.000 That's how crazy some of these programs are.

00:27:33.000 And it's only through this process that we are acquiring that we're able to highlight that and draw people to our side.

00:27:40.000 Like the only way you go from having three, four, five, seven votes to having 117 is you have to keep taking votes.

00:27:46.000 Yep.

00:27:47.000 You have to keep having the argument and ultimately you chip away at it.

00:27:50.000 So I want to just talk real, and you're doing the right thing, single subject.

00:27:53.000 I love it.

00:27:54.000 Joe Biden is not going to sign some of these bills, right?

00:27:57.000 And so therefore, they might call it a government shutdown.

00:28:00.000 If that happens, Matt, which you're not cheering for, I'm cheering for a shutdown.

00:28:03.000 I can't stand the government, but you're not.

00:28:04.000 You're a lawmaker.

00:28:05.000 You're responsible.

00:28:06.000 I'm an upset patriot.

00:28:08.000 I am not cheering for a shutdown.

00:28:09.000 I am.

00:28:10.000 I want a shutdown, but that's a separate issue.

00:28:11.000 It's not even a real shutdown.

00:28:12.000 It's a slowdown or a pause.

00:28:14.000 What were to happen if the government were to pause tomorrow evening?

00:28:18.000 I just want to make sure everyone understands.

00:28:19.000 We're not talking about the sky is falling chicken little stuff, Matt. 0.97

00:28:23.000 No, I believe, excuse me, Charlie, I think I might have lost my sound, but what I believe is that you really start to feel the highest levels of pain in these shutdowns when people start missing paychecks.

00:28:37.000 And so if we can get the Senate onto these bills, if we can work out a funding strategy before halfway through October, that's a very different thing than if you have a shutdown that's over the weekend, which would barely be felt by anyone or that might last a couple days during a work week.

00:28:53.000 I don't want people missing paychecks.

00:28:54.000 I don't want people wearing the uniform missing paychecks.

00:28:57.000 And by the way, they wouldn't have to.

00:28:58.000 Charlie Kirk, I'm telling you right now, Schumer can bring up our defense bill anytime he wants.

00:29:04.000 He can pass it and we can get our troops paid.

00:29:08.000 No, 100%.

00:29:09.000 But the likelihood is that Schumer and Biden are going to let it shut down, partial shutdown, slowdown, pause, and then they're going to blame Matt Gates and these people.

00:29:18.000 But it's a lot more complicated than that.

00:29:20.000 I just hope you guys are all bracing for impact.

00:29:22.000 We've lived through these.

00:29:22.000 It's a bunch of media bluster.

00:29:24.000 Okay.

00:29:24.000 It's a bunch of DEI bureaucrats at the Department of Interior that don't go to work for a couple of days.

00:29:29.000 Okay.

00:29:29.000 Do not allow that to hold you hostage.

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00:30:47.000 One of the attack vectors against Trump and all this is Cassidy Hutchinson.

00:30:52.000 And you have said that you had a relationship with Cassie Hutchinson. 0.86

00:30:54.000 She's denying she's a liar.

00:30:56.000 What's the truth here, Matt?

00:30:57.000 Look, I've said all I'm going to say about that.

00:31:00.000 I think she tried to create a false narrative around a lot of people who knew her, who worked with her, who had various and sundry personal connections and affections.

00:31:11.000 And she, I think, has really gone down a dark path of deceit.

00:31:15.000 And I don't love seeing that, but I don't have much to offer there.

00:31:19.000 So, Matt, what are the marching orders then coming into the weekend?

00:31:22.000 What are the bills that are the most important as we piecemail our way to try to avoid a shutdown?

00:31:27.000 Yeah, I think we have to build this government, you know, kind of brick by brick, stone by stone here.

00:31:32.000 And I think we need to start with our veterans and our military and our border.

00:31:37.000 And if we get that rolling, I think it builds momentum to the other areas where we need deep cuts.

00:31:42.000 I mean, we passed a Department of State bill that cuts down to 2014 levels.

00:31:46.000 It gets rid of a bunch of this woke and weaponized activity that occurs at the Department of State.

00:31:51.000 I would love to see that bill become law.

00:31:53.000 And then, of course, we've got a Department of Justice that really has seen a metastization of their bad politics, really masquerading as criminal justice and law enforcement.

00:32:07.000 So the next 24 hours are going to be super important.

00:32:13.000 How could this be, let's just say, swampified?

00:32:17.000 How could the cartel try to navigate here?

00:32:19.000 Because this is what happens.

00:32:20.000 That's a great question.

00:32:21.000 So yeah, please.

00:32:23.000 Anything that they can do to liberate themselves from reviewing these agencies independently.

00:32:29.000 The swamp move is always a move that lumps everything together.

00:32:33.000 And that way you're forced to just take one up or down vote on the entire government all at once.

00:32:38.000 That is their play.

00:32:39.000 It's the same exact play they've been running for decades.

00:32:42.000 That's why we're $33 trillion in debt.

00:32:44.000 It's why we have $2.2 trillion annual deficits right staring us in the face.

00:32:49.000 And it's why the rest of the world is starting to de-dollarize from the BRICS system to the African Union to even some of the Gulf monarchies selling more and more of their energy outside the U.S. dollar.

00:32:58.000 This is not a time to crush the most valued institution in the American economy, the dollar.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, and I can start to see, though, the rumblings that moderate Republicans might try to go do a deal with Democrats.

00:33:10.000 How do we prevent that from happening?

00:33:12.000 Don Bacon, for instance.

00:33:14.000 Listen, that may happen.

00:33:15.000 And by the way, if that's going to happen, that was always going to be what was going to happen.

00:33:20.000 If at the end of all the performances, you were going to see moderate Republicans join up with their Uniparty coalition in the Democrats to advance Joe Biden's priorities, then that exposes to the American people who you are governed by.

00:33:34.000 And I'm doing everything I can to stop the Uniparty, to force them to take votes, to force them to budget and work and appropriate as the law requires.

00:33:43.000 And it's going to be a battle, and the battle's on.

00:33:46.000 Yeah, this is my big fear: we have all this great fight, single subject, but tonight, it would not be impossible if Don Bacon and some of the moderates just put a clean CR on the floor.

00:33:58.000 I don't even know if it has to go through committee, and then every Democrat votes alongside of it and it goes to the Senate.

00:34:03.000 Sure.

00:34:04.000 That very well could happen.

00:34:06.000 And my defense against that is somewhat limited on the floor of the House.

00:34:11.000 Except PRPR-type campaign.

00:34:13.000 That's all we have.

00:34:14.000 And I'm not speaking about any one particular member, but if we have members that go do that, we will be seeding the fields of the upcoming primary challenges for people who would join with Democrats to advance Joe Biden's spending priorities.

00:34:28.000 At some point, you've just got to win elections, win primaries, and get better Republicans.

00:34:33.000 And if our Republicans are going to go do a bad, dirty deal with the Democrats, I'm going to do everything in my power as one member to see that that doesn't happen.

00:34:42.000 Yeah.

00:34:42.000 And so just who are the names of some of the moderates that are?

00:34:45.000 I know Don Bacon.

00:34:46.000 I've known Don for years and I'm not happy with how he's been doing things recently.

00:34:50.000 I'm not saying he's a bad person.

00:34:51.000 I just don't like his approach.

00:34:52.000 Who are the other moderates that we should put some pressure on to say, hey, don't go do a deal with Democrats?

00:34:58.000 Well, look, there are moderates who've been helping.

00:35:01.000 Mike Molinaro of New York is the guy who actually had the idea to get onto this packet of single-subject bills that met most of our nation's priorities.

00:35:10.000 So I don't want to cast any one group as being destructive, but I think that the people in districts that Joe Biden won, I think that people in blue states with a big Democrat infrastructure in California, New York are likely feeling the heat more on these matters than other members.

00:35:29.000 I still want to work collaboratively with all of our members, and certainly Mark Molinaronaro of New York has been an ally to date, trying to get some momentum in the appropriations process.

00:35:40.000 Matt Gates, everybody, hold the line, Matt.

00:35:43.000 We will be watching very closely and carefully.

00:35:45.000 The regime is trying to take Matt out because he is really holding the line.

00:35:48.000 God bless you, Matt.

00:35:49.000 Thank you.

00:35:50.000 All right.

00:35:50.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:35:54.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 29, 2023

The Nursing Home Ruling Class with Rep. Matt Gaetz

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