The Charlie Kirk Show - April 20, 2022


The Only 3 Things That Can Save America from Mass Psychosis with Dr. Robert Malone


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In this episode, Dr. Robert Malone joins me to talk about the dangers of over-prescription of the flu vaccine, and why the government should be worried about something other than the spread of the virus itself.

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00:00:05.000 Yeah, we talk about the vaccine, we talk about the virus, we talk about life, humanity, civilization.
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00:01:54.000 With us right now is someone who I think deserves credit more than almost anybody else for being a clear and courageous voice against COVID tyranny for individual sovereignty and the rule of law.
00:02:06.000 With us right now is Dr. Robert Malone.
00:02:09.000 Doctor, welcome back to the program.
00:02:10.000 Oh, my pleasure.
00:02:12.000 What a lead in.
00:02:13.000 Thank you very much.
00:02:14.000 So, Doctor, there's so many different directions we could go with this, but let's start here.
00:02:20.000 Where do you think the virus itself is going to go next?
00:02:23.000 Do you think that future variants are going to be more like the flu and not be as deadly?
00:02:30.000 Or do you think that we might see an unexpected variant come around the corner?
00:02:34.000 Maybe a midterm variant?
00:02:36.000 I hate to be that cynical, but do you think something like that might be in the cards?
00:02:40.000 So you're asking me to look into the crystal ball about viral evolution.
00:02:45.000 There's the trajectory that says that most viruses over time tend to become attenuated after they've moved into a new host.
00:02:55.000 So that argues for more infectious, less virulent.
00:02:59.000 Then there's the counterpoint that my friend Gert von den Bascha often raises as a concern, which is that there are some situations where over vaccination can drive an infectious viral pathogen to become more pathogenic as well as more infectious.
00:03:20.000 So the answer, can I select both of the above in your two scenarios and say time will tell.
00:03:33.000 But right now, we are in a situation where most of us, if not all of us, have been infected with Omicron, essentially have natural immunity, and are relatively resistant to the current sub-variant that's circulating that's slightly more infectious than the original Omicron was.
00:03:59.000 So where we are right now, they're still pushing mass vaccination boosters on people.
00:04:05.000 Some of the mandates have been lifted.
00:04:08.000 But do you think we are now seeing negative efficacy when it comes to this vaccine?
00:04:14.000 You're always highly informed, and that's what the data are suggesting.
00:04:19.000 So that is a significant risk.
00:04:24.000 It always has been.
00:04:26.000 That's the logic that the FDA warned about at the beginning of this, that with any coronavirus vaccine, there's a risk of antibody-dependent enhancement.
00:04:37.000 And I think that what we may be seeing right now, the data suggests we are from all over the world, is may not be true antibody-dependent enhancement, but it may be some combination of factors, part of which may include immune damage from repeated vaccine doses.
00:04:59.000 Which, of course, runs completely against what the regime media is saying.
00:05:04.000 So we're seeing still this kind of this, I guess you could call it a tension point, where we're being told that, you know, from Title 42 being repealed on the southern border, that it's no longer a medical emergency, yet the Biden regime is still justifying saying that they need COVID emergency executive powers.
00:05:25.000 And so the justification here seems to be a push to try to continue domestic control, despite, you know, case rates and fatality rates going down year over year.
00:05:40.000 As we look at this right now and we look at where infections are and what they're trying to do in that and their response to it, there's an inherent contradiction, especially as we see the mask mandate lifted yesterday.
00:05:54.000 It's very hard to make sense of it.
00:05:56.000 Doctor, what is your take on kind of the current emergency powers that we see by the federal government?
00:06:02.000 I don't believe there was any sort of justification for it since from the beginning.
00:06:07.000 What emergency power still exist that people might not see in their day-to-day life?
00:06:13.000 So there is still the emergency declaration, which basically has allowed the current administration.
00:06:19.000 I hesitate to ascribe that to Joe Biden.
00:06:23.000 I suspect you're on the same page as I am.
00:06:26.000 It is the my perspective as a physician is that Mr. Biden is significantly intellectually compromised at this point.
00:06:37.000 And I think that the best way to think about that administration right now is that it's being managed by bureaucrats.
00:06:46.000 We use the term deep state if you want, but let's call it surrogates, not by the Mr. Biden.
00:06:56.000 I hesitate to call him the elected president of the United States even.
00:07:00.000 But I don't think Mr. Biden is calling the shots.
00:07:04.000 I think that we have a cadre of basically bureaucrats who are risk averse, who have a strong interest in maintaining their what I believe to be illicit suspension of constitutional rights under the aegis of this emergency declaration for a medical emergency that no longer exists.
00:07:31.000 What I see is exactly what Bobby Kennedy predicted in his speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial that got MSNBC and so many others in a tail twist when he warned that once they have these exceptional powers, they will be very loath to give them up and we're going to have to force them to give them up.
00:07:55.000 That's what I see.
00:07:56.000 And it's fascinating.
00:07:59.000 The court young judge appointed by Mr. Trump made a determination that the CDC mask dates were arbitrary and capricious.
00:08:17.000 I agree with that wording.
00:08:19.000 I agree with that analysis.
00:08:21.000 They absolutely are arbitrary and capricious.
00:08:25.000 I had multiple colleagues flying at the time, including my wife.
00:08:29.000 And what I heard again and again was stories of cheering in airports and in airplanes.
00:08:36.000 And yet, in the face of that, then we had the counterpunch stories coming in yesterday and today that the whoever it is calling the shots in the Biden administration is looking at, quote unquote, appealing the decision.
00:08:56.000 And it smacks to me of some modified limited hangout.
00:09:04.000 They clearly looked weak.
00:09:07.000 And I suspect they want to somehow recover political status.
00:09:14.000 They're probably getting a lot of pushback from, I really don't even like the term left.
00:09:21.000 We could say Marxist.
00:09:22.000 We could say the collectivists, those that are deeply endorsing the current narrative and the uniparty position.
00:09:39.000 And I think they're in a position where they have to save face for their base in some way.
00:09:45.000 I hope they don't prevail.
00:09:48.000 This has gone on far too long.
00:09:50.000 As you correctly point out, there is no medical emergency.
00:09:53.000 There hasn't been for a long time.
00:09:56.000 There's no justification for the maintenance of these really, I'm struggling for the word, extra constitutional powers, I guess, that have been invoked.
00:10:18.000 But yet they still want to cling to them.
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00:12:09.000 So, Dr. Malone, hear me out with this, and I'm going to do my best describing this, but I kind of worked this through in anticipation of our conversation.
00:12:17.000 So, if there's no more emergency, then does big pharma and the entire their whole apparatus does that house of cards fall?
00:12:24.000 In other words, if there's no emergency, then there's no EUA.
00:12:29.000 If there's no EUA, then there's no liability protection for vaccine companies.
00:12:34.000 If there's no vaccines, then no mandates, no vaccine passports, no social credit system, no digital currency, no great reset.
00:12:40.000 Is that a step too far?
00:12:43.000 I wish it were that simple.
00:12:45.000 I agree that if we no longer have the emergency mandate situation as declared by the executive branch, then many of the interventions that have been promoted will no longer apply social distancing, the mandates, et cetera, the military mandates, for example.
00:13:16.000 And that house of cards falls, and that is the logic that has been presented by the White House for maintaining the mandates: is that in the event that this thing suddenly grew new fangs, we would be remiss if we didn't have that in place.
00:13:38.000 That's the logic.
00:13:40.000 I don't agree with it, but that's what they're promoting.
00:13:43.000 And they wish to retain a lot of these measures and the extra constitutional authority by maintaining it.
00:13:53.000 So, that's in terms of the government.
00:13:57.000 In terms of this medical-industrial complex and the deeper agendas, and I think you mentioned great reset.
00:14:11.000 My position is that this is only a skirmish, a first battle.
00:14:15.000 We're up against an entrenched, multi-decade-long program that is embodied in the Young Leaders Program of the World Economic Forum.
00:14:29.000 They have a lot of other strategies.
00:14:32.000 And the big issue here is what many in the economics community are warning me about, which is that we're looking at some kind of major boundary event triggered by the hyperinflation and everything else and the fiat currency, printing money, debt crisis, et cetera, not the least of which is the impending bankruptcy of the social security system.
00:15:01.000 And which your generation, by the way, is the ones that are going to have to pay for me and my generation.
00:15:07.000 So, we just need to be clear on that.
00:15:11.000 And the probability that I recover what I've put in is modest.
00:15:15.000 The probability that you and your colleagues put in is going to come back to you is approaching zero.
00:15:23.000 And so we're looking at a major economic boundary event.
00:15:27.000 And it appears to me and many others that what we're really facing is a concerted effort by entrenched big money to maintain power control and wealth as we move through this boundary event.
00:15:46.000 And this great, this infectious disease outbreak was a convenient tool, but it's not the only tool in their toolkit.
00:15:57.000 So in terms of this kind of medical industrial complex, I'm not as sanguine as to think that if we merely recover from the effects of this illegal medical emergency, everything is going to return to normal and be back to Oky Dory.
00:16:24.000 I've just had a film crew here up until about half an hour ago from Austria, and they're talking about the situation there.
00:16:32.000 There's movements in progress to allow the suspension of national constitutions in favor of a UN constitution.
00:16:42.000 I'm sure, Charlie, you know about this.
00:16:44.000 In the event of another medical outbreak as defined by the World Health Organization, it could be the next flu.
00:16:51.000 It could be whatever they want.
00:16:54.000 So, no, I'm afraid this is going to be a long road.
00:16:59.000 And I hope that the bureaucrats are forced into their holes by the judicial system in the short term on this particular topic. 0.96
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00:18:17.000 I want to play a tape of yours.
00:18:18.000 I'm not sure what event this was, but it was just extraordinary, this commentary.
00:18:23.000 Play Cut 64, please.
00:18:25.000 And one of the things about the Renaissance is that it was catalyzed in a significant way by an amazing global banking family who happen to also be artists and architects, the Medicis. 0.95
00:18:38.000 And what we have is a group of dour, pickle-faced fascists. 0.95
00:18:44.000 I'm sorry. 0.94
00:18:46.000 They believe in the fusion of corporatism and the state.
00:18:50.000 That is the definition of fascism, according to Benito Mussolini.
00:18:54.000 So the term is appropriately used. 0.99
00:18:56.000 So Dr. Malone, the floor is yours.
00:18:58.000 You go on to say there that it's time for us to create new art and to create new things.
00:19:04.000 Please elaborate on that.
00:19:07.000 So that was at the Miami Bitcoin conference at the Wales special room.
00:19:13.000 And it was an interview with Tucker Carlson and J.P. Sears and James Heckman and myself, largely.
00:19:23.000 And it was a part of that discussion in which I was bringing the conversation to focus on a future vision as we move forward of what is the good here, what is a positive vision for all of us moving forward.
00:19:52.000 And what I was emphasizing there is the importance of what makes us human.
00:20:01.000 We're in a situation in which we've allowed various actors, and for the sake of argument, let's call it Davos Mann, citing this book by Peter Goodman that I'm in the middle of right now as a kind of a surrogate for this.
00:20:16.000 But we've allowed the humankind to be defined using economic terms.
00:20:23.000 And in so doing, we have given up on the joy and unique capabilities of what makes us human.
00:20:34.000 And I think a lot of that is embodied in the arts.
00:20:40.000 We are not just economic units and we are not animals to be farmed for the benefit of some economic elite.
00:20:50.000 The human mind and the human spirit is unlimited.
00:20:55.000 Our ability to create, imagine, and find joy in our daily lives, joy, love, all of those things that make us luminous beings, shining individuals.
00:21:10.000 And that's where that conversation was going at that point in time, is really expanding on the point that with this historic example of the Italian Renaissance, one of the key characteristics is that we had a banking family, the dominant global banking family.
00:21:32.000 Obviously, the metaphor is to BlackRock, Vanguard, etc.
00:21:36.000 And the Medicis happened to be a family that also had deep commitment to architecture and the arts.
00:21:46.000 They funded Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci.
00:21:51.000 They gave us the chapel.
00:21:54.000 They gave us an incredible fluorescence of the human spirit.
00:22:02.000 And there is a thread that we stand on the precipice of either the great reset, as envisioned by those dour, pickled-faced folks that I was referring to.
00:22:16.000 Klaus Schwab was who I had in mind, and a vision of a new American Enlightenment, a new Renaissance, in which we celebrate the human spirit over the idea that he who dies with the most toys wins.
00:22:37.000 Well, that's beautiful.
00:22:38.000 And it's going back to the Medici family.
00:22:41.000 Of course, the person who was, you would say, persecuted and tortured and imprisoned, I believe, started the Enlightenment, which was Machiavelli.
00:22:52.000 And Machiavelli is a mixed bag, but Mikey wrote, Well, look, we have all the, we had all these ideas of kind of being a better person and trying to ascend to a higher plane of existence.
00:23:08.000 Why don't we just put aside all these ideals and just go get what we want?
00:23:12.000 Because we know what we want.
00:23:14.000 And in some ways, that was liberating for some people, but also, I think, unnecessarily turned a chapter away from antiquity and towards the stumbling of modernity not based in truth.
00:23:28.000 What does that look like, then, Dr. Malone, on a more philosophical basis?
00:23:32.000 How does one now not just challenge the postmodern garbage that we're seeing all around us, but how do we restore the species, the being of a human, back to what we're actually supposed to be?
00:23:45.000 Thank you for that.
00:23:46.000 And thank you for sharing that vision.
00:23:49.000 I think we have to start by recognizing the good in ourselves.
00:23:54.000 We need to, you know, we can't love others and we can't accept others unless we love and accept ourselves.
00:24:01.000 And that may sound a little bit Berkeley.
00:24:04.000 I've just been watching your stuff during the break, but I mean that with deep sincerity, the human mind, the human spirit is unstoppable.
00:24:16.000 Our ability to innovate and to create art and to create community and to find joy in each other is unbounded.
00:24:28.000 And we are being forced into a situation where we're defined as economic units and we're being managed as such.
00:24:38.000 And you ask, what's the way forward?
00:24:41.000 What I'm seeing, and this is really the bright light at the end of the tunnel with all of this.
00:24:48.000 I mentioned before, so what I'm seeing is the spontaneous arising of intentional and unintentional communities that are committed to a set of principles that are fundamentally grounded in an ethical way of being and interacting with each other,
00:25:12.000 as opposed to an avaricious one, and which find joy in those social interactions.
00:25:20.000 Remember, the teaching of Matthias Desmet is that the underlying sickness is not the virus, it's the fragmentation of us as a community.
00:25:30.000 And what I'm seeing, like with this film crew that just left today, just about an hour ago, I guess now, that came over from Austria, is people that are standing up are increasingly, the best word I could say is enlightened.
00:25:49.000 They have become aware of what's happening in the world and assuming personal responsibility, which is one of your key messages that you were giving the young gentleman here, is stop whining, get to work, and be the best that you can be.
00:26:05.000 I think that that's the essence of it, but do so in a way that isn't hurting others, that isn't, you know, the idea here is basically a rising tide lifts all boats.
00:26:18.000 That can seem a little Pollyannish, but if we all put our shoulder to the wheel and become the best that we can personally be and own that and stop looking for other people to make our lives easier and assume responsibility for ourselves and our own actions,
00:26:37.000 then I think we as a collective humanity can move instead of through a great reset controlled by large economic forces beyond us.
00:26:52.000 We can move to a great awakening and a new renaissance.
00:26:58.000 And I believe that the wisdom of the American Enlightenment still shines through time.
00:27:07.000 When I read the words of Adams and Jefferson and Franklin and so many of those others, we treat them like they are artifacts of some distant past.
00:27:22.000 It's only a couple hundred, 300 years ago.
00:27:25.000 It's not that long ago.
00:27:27.000 And the words and the logic and the heart underpinning what they said is just as relevant today as then because humans haven't changed.
00:27:39.000 You and I believe that.
00:27:41.000 That is exactly actually a disagreement.
00:27:43.000 If you go to these campuses, they think human beings change.
00:27:45.000 Of course they change because technology changes.
00:27:47.000 You and I believe that human beings remain exactly the same.
00:27:50.000 That's why the Constitution is such a brilliant document.
00:27:52.000 It wasn't written for the times.
00:27:54.000 It was written to stand the test of time.
00:27:56.000 There is this interesting team that has now been formed.
00:27:59.000 Elon Musk, Bill Maher, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Dr. Malone, people that otherwise would not all kind of be on the same team, all kind of trying to push against this suppressive great reset, trying to at least try to have an awakening of speech and dialogue.
00:28:14.000 What do you make of this, this unlikely combination of forces of different political backgrounds, religions, philosophical perspectives, but all agree on liberty and self-government and definitely agree that we need to kind of push back against the great reset woke agenda?
00:28:32.000 So I just wrote a substack, actually a couple of them, and the latest one was about populism and defining populism.
00:28:39.000 I think that what, and by the way, I have yet to get the phone call from Elon Musk, and Joe Rogan never has reached out to me since then.
00:28:50.000 So I don't know that we can say we're on the same team, philosophically, perhaps.
00:28:54.000 Well, you're saying the same stuff.
00:28:56.000 Yeah, you are.
00:28:57.000 Yeah.
00:28:58.000 Okay.
00:28:59.000 But I suggest that the language, language matters, and the language that has been promoted for us and repeatedly reinforced.
00:29:14.000 You and I are now on the far right, quote unquote.
00:29:18.000 That's often a euphemism for Nazis.
00:29:22.000 We are often labeled as such by the media and with absolutely no basis.
00:29:29.000 It's a perversion of the language, of the meaning of words.
00:29:34.000 But this has been framed as woke versus Nazis.
00:29:39.000 And it's been phrased as the mainstream, which is ergo the left, and the quote far right.
00:29:49.000 There's no recognition of any political spectrum.
00:29:52.000 I fundamentally object to that structure.
00:29:56.000 I think that that is what's behind that use of that language is grossly obsolete.
00:30:04.000 And what ties together those individuals that you just spoke of, many things.
00:30:10.000 We're, by the way, all hardworking individuals that don't look for government handouts.
00:30:18.000 But another thing that ties us together is a new political axis, which I believe has emerged, which is between collectivism and a commitment to freedom to choose.
00:30:33.000 That's the way I phrase it.
00:30:34.000 I don't know that it's a perfect construction, but it's orthogonal.
00:30:38.000 Left versus right is obsolete.
00:30:41.000 The existing thesis of left versus right is outdated and no longer useful and has been further damaged by misuse of language and the incorrect assertion that the Nazi party of Germany came from the right and represented a far-right group.
00:31:06.000 It was clearly emerging from a left-wing socialist position.
00:31:12.000 It's even in the name.
00:31:13.000 The more appropriate realigned axis that I believe brings people like Musk and those that you mentioned together into one group is the alignment between those who believe in a collectivist future and those that believe in freedom to choose.
00:31:36.000 Freedom to choose and freedom to speak are aligned.
00:31:41.000 It's basically: do you believe, you know, the word has been used Marxism, that's kind of throwing it down on the table.
00:31:49.000 But I try to use the softer term collectivism versus those that believe in the vision that was laid out, as you point out, in our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, et cetera.
00:32:08.000 A vision in which people have to own personal responsibility for their actions.
00:32:15.000 And I think that that world in which one has a freedom to choose, freedom to achieve, is a better way to describe the axis, that being freedom versus collectivism.
00:32:34.000 It's very insightful.
00:32:36.000 What can people do?
00:32:37.000 They feel helpless.
00:32:38.000 They say, okay, we'll start our own new Renaissance.
00:32:40.000 We want to, you know, I buy into all that.
00:32:44.000 Look, what can people actually do?
00:32:45.000 It seems overwhelming when we're up against the World Economic Forum young global leaders, Klaus Schwab crew.
00:32:52.000 People feel helpless, should they?
00:32:56.000 I think let's not despair.
00:32:59.000 Let's just get to work.
00:33:02.000 They've been working on this for over 30 years.
00:33:05.000 And unfortunately, a lot of us, including myself, have been unaware of the plans and schemes.
00:33:13.000 The good news is we've now seen their face.
00:33:17.000 I argue it's the face of evil for a variety of reasons.
00:33:21.000 And many people couch this as a religious battle.
00:33:25.000 I think that can help to frame it and to provide context and allow people to think it through.
00:33:35.000 One solution that many are advocating is the phrase intentional communities.
00:33:42.000 We have to rebuild community.
00:33:44.000 But this gets back to this core three words that I keep saying every time I give a speech: integrity, dignity, and community.
00:33:54.000 We have to restore integrity in our public discourse and in our government and in our lives.
00:34:02.000 We have to recognize and respect the dignity of the individual, our individual dignity as human beings, and we have to rebuild community.
00:34:14.000 And the only way to rebuild community is to start local, even though you're thinking global.
00:34:20.000 And one of the things that so many of us have seen through this outbreak, I suspect including yourself, is that the communities that have been most resistant to the mass psychosis phenomenon have been religious communities.
00:34:37.000 They have withstood this in a way that almost no other groups in the world that I've seen have been able to withstand the concerted propaganda and censorship because they have a sense of belonging to each other.
00:34:53.000 They're not focused on belonging to a single leader, like whether it's Tony Fauci, Klaus Schwab, or anywhere in between.
00:35:04.000 And so I do think that a starting point, number one, please don't despair.
00:35:11.000 It's springtime.
00:35:12.000 The grass is jumping out of the ground.
00:35:14.000 The flowers are beautiful.
00:35:16.000 Go for a hike.
00:35:18.000 Get out of your cities.
00:35:20.000 Get out of your little personal space and spend some thought time on integrity, dignity, and rebuilding community, starting with the people around you.
00:35:35.000 Dr. Robert Malone.
00:35:37.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:35:38.000 Everybody, email me directly, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with Turning PointUSA Today at tpusa.com.
00:35:44.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:35:45.000 God bless.
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