The Charlie Kirk Show - The Origins of Comedy and "Are Christians Cowards?" with Benny Johnson

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00:00:40.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:41.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:43.000 I am here with Benny Johnson, meme lord himself at Turning Point USA.

00:00:47.000 Benny, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:49.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:00:49.000 It's an honor.

00:00:52.000 What do you make of what's happening right now in our country?

00:00:55.000 I think we've reached...

00:00:57.000 I think we've reached on...

00:00:59.000 I think we've reached on a number of levels, just abject exhaustion.

00:01:05.000 I think people are tired.

00:01:07.000 I think people are tired.

00:01:08.000 I think people are finally starting to say, like, I'm tired.

00:01:12.000 I'm tired of the virtue signaling.

00:01:14.000 I'm tired of the outrage.

00:01:16.000 I'm tired of the pandering.

00:01:18.000 And I'm exhausted with the.

00:01:23.000 I'm exhausted from being just exhausted.

00:01:26.000 I think a lot of that comes from coronavirus.

00:01:28.000 The lockdowns, not the virus.

00:01:30.000 Yeah.

00:01:30.000 The lockdowns.

00:01:31.000 Because we didn't have to lock down.

00:01:33.000 I think a lot of it comes from the lockdowns.

00:01:37.000 I think that created the kindling for this moment.

00:01:39.000 I think it created a moment where you would just light the match.

00:01:42.000 Something needed to light the match.

00:01:43.000 And then it would all go up.

00:01:45.000 Well, yeah.

00:01:45.000 And so you make a good point.

00:01:47.000 You take people's sports away. 0.87

00:01:49.000 You take their religious services away.

00:01:50.000 You take their mental health counseling away.

00:01:52.000 You take any capacity to socialize with your friends.

00:01:55.000 You take away your capacity to go for walks or runs outside.

00:01:58.000 These people normal.

00:02:01.000 You take away walks on the beach, literally.

00:02:03.000 You take away boating.

00:02:04.000 Yes.

00:02:05.000 Especially for young men living in urban centers full of testosterone.

00:02:10.000 Almost when they start burning down the country, you shouldn't say, oh, I wonder what's gotten into them lately.

00:02:14.000 Now, I'm not solely blaming the lockdowns for it, but it was a contributing factor.

00:02:17.000 Absolutely.

00:02:18.000 No doubt.

00:02:18.000 Absolutely.

00:02:19.000 You talk with any mental health professional, and you talk about people falling off the wagon when it comes to alcoholism or some other vice.

00:02:26.000 This happens when they lose their touchstones, when they lose the things in their life that they can count on for normalcy.

00:02:33.000 And so church, religion, faith, family, friends, meeting up people at bar, meeting up people on the golf course, going to the event and cheering for the bulls, cheering for the cubbies.

00:02:46.000 Those are things that actually, it's amazing because it seems so superfluous, but that is the glue that binds a society together.

00:02:52.000 But the central planners intentionally took that away from us.

00:02:57.000 When else has this happened in American history?

00:03:00.000 I mean, it really is an unprecedented thing.

00:03:03.000 I said this on an earlier episode of the podcast.

00:03:05.000 You guys can email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:03:08.000 Where typically when we make a bad decision as a country, there's a precedent.

00:03:12.000 Tax hikes, lowering taxes, monetary policy, invading a country.

00:03:18.000 We have a precedent.

00:03:19.000 There's no playbook here.

00:03:21.000 There's no precedent.

00:03:22.000 You have an American city that is abolishing and dismantling their police force.

00:03:27.000 Yes.

00:03:28.000 Correct.

00:03:29.000 But that was the goal.

00:03:30.000 That was the point.

00:03:31.000 Of who?

00:03:32.000 Well, the communists.

00:03:37.000 I mean, this is how communism starts in a society.

00:03:40.000 How is that?

00:03:42.000 The way that communism starts in a society, and I'm not basing this off of Benny Johnson's intellect.

00:03:49.000 I have a very room temperature IQ.

00:03:52.000 I'm basing this off the writings of Karl Marx, who I familiarized myself with just today in writing a new script about this topic.

00:04:00.000 Karl Marx, in writing the Communist Manifesto, lays out very, very easily the playbook for bringing capitalism to socialism as a throughput to communism.

00:04:11.000 And the playbook is this.

00:04:13.000 Create identitarian groups. 0.78

00:04:16.000 Make those groups fight. 0.67

00:04:18.000 Create hatred between those groups. 0.98

00:04:20.000 Make sure that one group kills the other. 0.98

00:04:26.000 And then you can destroy all classes. 0.97

00:04:28.000 You can destroy all capital.

00:04:29.000 This is the goal of complete control.

00:04:32.000 The goal of Marx was to make sure that there was no further private property.

00:04:37.000 Yes.

00:04:38.000 He said bluntly, the goal of communism is the elimination of private property.

00:04:43.000 And so to get to that end, you had to steal from the bourgeois.

00:04:50.000 The proletariat has to rise up against the bourgeois.

00:04:52.000 It's a fancy way of saying... Bourgeoisie, but yeah, it depends how you pronounce it.

00:04:56.000 It's a fancy way of saying, you know, like the business owners and the workers.

00:05:02.000 So the people who work at Starbucks is riding up against the franchise owner to kill him.

00:05:10.000 I mean, really, that's the point.

00:05:12.000 And I think that's really misunderstood about Marx is he wanted violence.

00:05:17.000 He asked for forcible, forcible violence and revolution.

00:05:22.000 They wanted to raise the classes to the ground, to ruin them, to torch, to torch, to burn your blocks and your cities and your businesses to the ground.

00:05:32.000 The goal was to smash the windows, burn private property, eliminate that entirely, and start new. 0.76

00:05:39.000 And when you listen to the Ilhan Omars of the world talk about their new reimagining of a world without police, it's Marxism. 0.61

00:05:48.000 It's absolute textbook. 0.86

00:05:50.000 It's Thomas Moore utopianism, too.

00:05:52.000 Utopia actually means nowhere, if you go back to the actual word of what it means.

00:05:56.000 When they say the abolition of private property, it's just not the ability to own a home.

00:06:00.000 It's the abolition of you.

00:06:02.000 Correct.

00:06:02.000 Because John Locke identified correctly, private property is your ability to consciousness.

00:06:06.000 It's your dream.

00:06:07.000 It's your imagination.

00:06:08.000 It's if I draw something on a piece of paper, I'm going to be able to either monetize it, keep it, shred it up.

00:06:14.000 Everything you are, your existence, is embodied in individual sovereignty.

00:06:20.000 Correct.

00:06:20.000 It's private property.

00:06:21.000 This is why you see a religion forming right now on the left.

00:06:24.000 What's the religion?

00:06:26.000 It's called the Church of Identitarian.

00:06:29.000 And it has everything to do with putting people into groups by their identity.

00:06:32.000 Well, and this is postmodern, postmodernist basic thinking.

00:06:37.000 And broken down, I mean, if you can create, the easiest way to destroy a country is to make sure that the tribes within the country kill each other. 0.75

00:06:46.000 And then you've seen, I mean, you've seen this in places like Rwanda, for instance, and places like Nazi Germany, where you tribalize people. 0.87

00:06:56.000 And then one group of people steals everything from the other and enforces their will upon them. 0.82

00:07:04.000 And there's no one to stop them.

00:07:05.000 And most importantly, there's no church.

00:07:07.000 I think there's another thing that is roundly misunderstood about Marx.

00:07:10.000 He just flatly says there is no church.

00:07:13.000 The state is the church.

00:07:15.000 The point is for the state to become so powerful.

00:07:17.000 This is the exact word.

00:07:18.000 It supersedes the church.

00:07:21.000 And so when you watch, it makes your skin crawl as a Christian when you watch the government close our church doors and say, we are more powerful than you.

00:07:31.000 And Christians do very little to rise up against it. 0.97

00:07:34.000 Correct. 1.00

00:07:34.000 In fact, we put our heads down and say, you know, yes, sir. 1.00

00:07:39.000 And then when you watch churches be lit on fire, now I'm not talking about the famous church that was lit on fire across from the White House in Mississippi, the church that refuses to close for coronavirus was torched to the ground.

00:07:50.000 Burned to the ground.

00:07:50.000 Very little attention.

00:07:52.000 They're burning churches.

00:07:53.000 This is precisely what the communists did.

00:07:55.000 This is exactly the goal of Marxism, to make the state more powerful than the church.

00:08:00.000 Yes.

00:08:01.000 And we know that the left is going to try to replace God with government.

00:08:08.000 We know that.

00:08:08.000 We've seen it time and time again.

00:08:10.000 But what is remarkable is how those of us that believe in God, how few of us are fighting.

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00:09:20.000 So C.S. Lewis wrote the book, Near Christianity.

00:09:24.000 I want to write an essay that could be a book, Woke Christianity. 1.00

00:09:29.000 How weak, cowardly Christians are contributing to the death of America. 0.99

00:09:35.000 I call out these pastors one by one. 1.00

00:09:37.000 One by one, Benny. 0.95

00:09:39.000 Because they post their little black squares preceded by factually inaccurate, baseless information about how they say black men are being gunned down in the streets by our police officers at an alarming rate.

00:09:50.000 Not even close to being true.

00:09:51.000 10 unarmed black men died last year, according to the Washington Post.

00:09:55.000 They recently adjusted it to 15, how convenient they adjust it when people start using their data. 0.90

00:09:59.000 Let's say it's 15.

00:10:00.000 15 out of the country are 330 million people.

00:10:03.000 So these woke Christians tell the entire world how good a people they are.

00:10:09.000 And I scroll through their Instagram feed, Benny.

00:10:11.000 I scrolled back to Sanctity Life Sunday.

00:10:13.000 No post about abortion.

00:10:15.000 None.

00:10:16.000 Zero.

00:10:16.000 Nothing.

00:10:18.000 In fact, some would go as far as say, well, we're praying for all issues on the side of abortion.

00:10:22.000 They don't want to offend people when literally a million babies in America are aborted every single year.

00:10:31.000 One million.

00:10:32.000 So now if these woke Christian pastors, woke Christianity, they really cared about black lives, wouldn't they care about the 400,000 black babies that are aborted every single year?

00:10:42.000 So you have a million abortions every single year.

00:10:45.000 And about 13 to 15% of the population are African Americans.

00:10:49.000 Take that in half. 0.81

00:10:50.000 Because only half of that are women that are able to have children. 1.00

00:10:54.000 Half of that is about childbearing age. 0.78

00:10:57.000 So 4% of the American population accounts for 43% of all the abortions.

00:11:02.000 Do you know in New York City, if you see a black woman who's pregnant on a subway, she's more likely going to the abortion clinic than she's going to the delivery room?

00:11:10.000 The abortion rate is higher than the birth rate in New York City.

00:11:13.000 But the woke Christians, Benny, they tell you we need to stand up for social justice. 0.77

00:11:17.000 We need to stand up for the fight for the least of these in society, yet they remain silent on black on black crime. 0.88

00:11:24.000 They remain silent when black fathers have left the home. 0.99

00:11:27.000 Do you know what 77% of black children in America will not grow up with a father in the home? 0.77

00:11:32.000 That's according to the Washington Examiner.

00:11:34.000 77%.

00:11:36.000 Then we send them to failing public schools where there was an independent study in Baltimore, 13 public schools.

00:11:42.000 They could not find a kid that could do math or read at grade level.

00:11:45.000 So we send them to Democrat-run cartel schools run by the teacher unions.

00:11:50.000 They don't have fathers to come home to. 0.66

00:11:53.000 And then these woke Christian pastors that mostly pandered, by the way, to sanctimonious social media activists, suburbanites, that have a messianic complex that they can come in and fix the world because they posted a black square on their Instagram, where they don't say a word about the slaughter of the unborn in our abortion clinics. 0.90

00:12:10.000 They don't mention a syllable about the decimation of black fathers.

00:12:16.000 And yet they stand in their pulpits and they condemn people like me because I dare use data and statistics talking about how, no, actually the police are generally a force for good in America.

00:12:26.000 Do you know that in New York City, in 1994, right when around Mayor Giuliani became mayor, there was about 2,200 murders a year in New York City.

00:12:35.000 That's almost a 9-11 in New York City every single year.

00:12:38.000 Mayor Giuliani says, guess what?

00:12:40.000 We're going to put the police back in the streets.

00:12:42.000 We're going to get tough on crime.

00:12:43.000 We're going to use data to find out where the gangbangers are hiding out, and we are going to arrest them, and we are going to be tough.

00:12:49.000 Murders went down to 324 a year, and they went down as low as 200 a year under the early years of Mayor Bloomberg.

00:12:55.000 Do you know who most of those lives were saved?

00:12:56.000 2,000 to 300, just about.

00:12:58.000 Those 2,100 people?

00:12:59.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:13:00.000 The 2,100 people? 1.00

00:13:01.000 Black people.

00:13:03.000 Black people.

00:13:05.000 Hundreds of thousands of black lives have been saved by police officers over the last couple of decades.

00:13:09.000 Hundreds of thousands. 0.74

00:13:11.000 Yet these woke Christians with their black squares are saying law enforcement are killing people in the streets.

00:13:17.000 If you take the multiplier effect of the hundreds of thousands of black and Hispanic individuals that have lives have been saved because of more policing in America, and you take the multiplier effect over a couple generations and the children that they have, you're talking about probably a million people of color that are alive over a 30-year window because of law enforcement.

00:13:35.000 And the Christian pastors do nothing to stand up for it. 0.74

00:13:38.000 In fact, they kowtow and they capitulate to something that is rooted in a lie. 0.90

00:13:43.000 I wish they were one-tenth as vocal for truth as they are cowardly advancing lies and deception in America. 0.99

00:13:53.000 When did Christians become cowards? 0.99

00:13:56.000 Well, they've always been cowards because we're human beings. 0.99

00:13:59.000 See, courage is the hardest to find of the greatest virtues.

00:14:04.000 So courage takes honesty.

00:14:06.000 So you can be honest, but you can have no courage.

00:14:09.000 But you cannot be courageous without honest, being honest.

00:14:12.000 See, and I truly believe you can't actually be fully honest and fully in the pursuit of truth without being courageous.

00:14:18.000 You can be half true.

00:14:20.000 You can be half honest. 1.00

00:14:22.000 But Christians have been cowardly for years, Benny. 1.00

00:14:24.000 This is nothing new. 1.00

00:14:26.000 You know, it's really interesting.

00:14:27.000 I always wondered to myself, how was it possible?

00:14:30.000 When I was in eighth grade, my teacher showed us slides of Benita Mussolini and the death camps throughout Italy.

00:14:42.000 And I remember raising my hands.

00:14:43.000 I say, I don't get it.

00:14:45.000 Her name was Mrs. Smith.

00:14:46.000 I'll never forget the classroom.

00:14:48.000 I said, I don't understand. 1.00

00:14:50.000 Italy's where the Vatican is, where all these Christians are. 1.00

00:14:54.000 How is this possible? 1.00

00:14:56.000 I'll never forget what she said.

00:14:58.000 She said, no, they helped.

00:15:00.000 What are we talking about?

00:15:02.000 They helped.

00:15:03.000 And I, to this, up until recently, Benny, I didn't get it.

00:15:07.000 I struggled with it.

00:15:07.000 I said, come on.

00:15:08.000 The church, they're moral people.

00:15:10.000 They're about action.

00:15:12.000 Now, I am not equating what's happening today to what Benito Mussolini did, but we're on that way, Benny. 0.79

00:15:18.000 We are on the way of collectivized anarcho-tyranny, where we have despotic rule, where people that pay penance to the group humiliation religion will be saved. 0.78

00:15:33.000 I never understood up until now how that's possible. 0.88

00:15:37.000 Because far too often, Christians, and Christian leaders in particular, Benny, they're far too happy and content to be complicit and to be compliant and to be agreeable, not disagreeable. 0.89

00:15:50.000 The church is built to be a disagreeable entity.

00:15:53.000 You know, these pastors, they say, well, I don't want to offend anybody.

00:15:56.000 Then why did you become a pastor?

00:16:00.000 I mean, isn't the whole idea of telling people, these are the same pastors, by the way, that will go up and say, you're going to hell if you don't believe this.

00:16:06.000 Like, that's a pretty absolute truth, right?

00:16:09.000 They're happy saying that.

00:16:10.000 But as far as saying, oh, abortion is not good for society and not moral, I don't know, man.

00:16:15.000 That's a tough sell for me.

00:16:17.000 You know, isn't the eternal damnation thing probably a harder sell? 1.00

00:16:20.000 So to complete the point, Christians have now become cowards. 1.00

00:16:24.000 There's some amazing ones. 1.00

00:16:25.000 Rob McCoy, Jack Hibbs, Jerry Fowl Jr., Falkirk Center for Faith and Liberty at Liberty University.

00:16:29.000 They're phenomenal.

00:16:31.000 But you are seeing if the West falls, the one institution that could have stopped it was the American church.

00:16:40.000 And the weak pastors that care more about their social media following, that care more about their Facebook live stream.

00:16:47.000 It's because of them.

00:16:48.000 And they'll be judged because of it.

00:16:50.000 It seems peculiar because if you look at the early church, while it's not as though Christ, Christian, little Christ, right, so should model yourself after Christ.

00:17:05.000 If you're going to call yourself a Christian, you should at least try.

00:17:09.000 If you go back and look through his life, it's not as though he was actively attempting to run for politics or get overtly political. 0.99

00:17:16.000 He was perfectly happy to own you, like wreck your world.

00:17:23.000 If you come at him and you are a member of the political class, a Pharisee, which is seen as a pseudo-religious, like a religious leader, but also a politician.

00:17:32.000 They were politicians.

00:17:34.000 Like he would wreck you.

00:17:37.000 If you were part of that and you were coming at him and you were coming at him using God or using your position in the church, but then advocating for something that's antithetical to God's teaching.

00:17:52.000 That's right.

00:17:52.000 Well, and Christ went after the Sadducees and the Pharisees.

00:17:56.000 And in the early church, it's really interesting you mentioned this, the early, early church.

00:17:59.000 We're talking about right after Christ died, like after Christ dies and rises again, right?

00:18:03.000 So you got the most fired up group of Christians you could imagine, right?

00:18:06.000 These guys are ready to take on the world.

00:18:08.000 And even James, Jesus' brother, James the Just is like, let's do this thing.

00:18:13.000 Like, let's tell the world, right?

00:18:16.000 You got Matthew, you got Luke that wants to go do this whole testimony thing.

00:18:20.000 And what do they do in early Acts church?

00:18:23.000 They hide. 0.78

00:18:25.000 The first thing they do, because God says, sit and wait, and they do.

00:18:28.000 And so then Stephen has this great idea, right?

00:18:30.000 He's like, I'm going to go give a sermon about how great Jesus is.

00:18:36.000 So Stephen stands up, gives the first sermon in recorded Christianity, gets stoned to death.

00:18:43.000 Do you know who oversaw that stoning?

00:18:46.000 Paul.

00:18:47.000 So Stephen comes up, he's like, Jesus is Lord.

00:18:50.000 If you read it, I think it's like Acts 8.

00:18:52.000 I could have the, but it's right around there.

00:18:54.000 He's like, Jesus is Lord.

00:18:55.000 He's risen again.

00:18:57.000 Let us Jews follow it.

00:18:58.000 He's like, who's with me? 1.00

00:19:00.000 Kill him. 1.00

00:19:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:19:02.000 And so then the church goes through this crisis moment, right?

00:19:06.000 Where you start to see how much courage is there really within the early Christian church.

00:19:11.000 And so what happens is then early Christians scatter, right?

00:19:15.000 From the Far East, there's rumors that I think either Andrew, I could have it wrong, go as far east as India.

00:19:20.000 Paul goes right to the Mediterranean, the heart of civilization.

00:19:24.000 There's a reason why Paul went there, right?

00:19:26.000 There's a reason why Paul went straight to Greece in Italy.

00:19:29.000 Because Paul's like, if we are going to get this Christianity thing to get set on fire, I got to convince the people of Corinth.

00:19:35.000 I got to convince the people of Greece.

00:19:36.000 I got to convince the people.

00:19:37.000 It ends up in a prison, like really quickly.

00:19:40.000 Paul gives this amazing, unbelievable sermon, if you will, literally in the shadows of the Acropolis, Acropolis, Acropolis, on the hill in Athens.

00:19:51.000 I've been there.

00:19:52.000 Where all their Greek gods are there.

00:19:54.000 He's like, you got it all wrong, guys.

00:19:56.000 One God, Sena's son, died for us.

00:19:58.000 Of course, they throw him in prison shortly after.

00:20:00.000 But it's interesting because the persecutions of Christians went up. 0.51

00:20:05.000 And Christianity almost operated as this kind of subterranean religion for a couple hundred years where it was almost in the crypts. 0.76

00:20:14.000 It was this, oh my gosh, we can't get our heads out. 0.80

00:20:17.000 When there were the five great Roman emperors ending in Marcus Aurelius, almost every single one of them participated in the persecution of Christians.

00:20:24.000 Marcus Aurelius was more balanced.

00:20:25.000 He's like, come on, these guys aren't that bad.

00:20:28.000 And it wasn't until the creation of the Eastern Roman Empire, wasn't until King Constantine came to this unbelievable revelation that Christ is king, took Christianity to go from a subterranean religion to a dominant religion.

00:20:42.000 Now, they were courageous.

00:20:43.000 I'm not saying they were cowardly because they were in the crypts.

00:20:45.000 There were unbelievable stories about early Christianity, right?

00:20:47.000 But do you know what happened, Benny? 0.69

00:20:49.000 As soon as it became the self-endorsed religion of the Eastern Roman Empire and they tore down the Temple of Venus in Jerusalem and they built up the church, the Holy Sepulchre, which still is to this day in the old city of Jerusalem, after about 100 years, 200 years, Christians got more worried about protecting their political status than actually advancing the kingdom. 0.78

00:21:09.000 The boldness of the early church disappeared.

00:21:12.000 And isn't that kind of what you're seeing today?

00:21:14.000 Yes.

00:21:15.000 You're seeing this today, particularly in something that I find just so fundamentally hateful about the very basics of Christianity.

00:21:29.000 And I just find this so I find this so offensive.

00:21:34.000 There are things in Christianity where there are places in Christianity, at least in the way that I look at it, again, stating once again for the record, very, very room temperature IQ individual right here talking.

00:21:45.000 I'm no philosopher and I'm no scholar.

00:21:47.000 I'm certainly not a historian.

00:21:50.000 But I know things that God reserves for himself and things that God keeps that I am not allowed to touch, right?

00:21:59.000 And I shouldn't go there, right?

00:22:01.000 Telling people who's going to go to heaven and hell, that's one.

00:22:04.000 God determines, right, these things, and it's not really up for me.

00:22:08.000 I don't want that weight on my shoulders.

00:22:09.000 And you know your own personality.

00:22:10.000 So that's why you'll never find me on the street corner with a sign, right? 1.00

00:22:14.000 You're going to hell. 0.94

00:22:14.000 You'll never find that. 0.94

00:22:15.000 That is a thing that God reserves.

00:22:17.000 Something that God reserves from the earliest stories, the earliest, earliest stories, the earliest story is creation.

00:22:27.000 And so when God makes, when God creates the world, when God creates human beings, animals, he gives them their shape, their form.

00:22:36.000 And when he creates Adam, when he creates Eve, he creates them in his own image.

00:22:42.000 Immutably.

00:22:43.000 And so when you have a movement in America right now that is saying that because of your skin color, you've sinned.

00:22:57.000 You've committed a wrong based on the way God made you.

00:23:00.000 Well, how God made you was wrong.

00:23:03.000 What God gave you, how God put you together was incorrect.

00:23:06.000 We're smarter than God.

00:23:09.000 The way God made this type of person is incorrect.

00:23:17.000 I can't think of a thing that's more offensive on level than to look a creator in the face, if you do believe in God, than to look him in the face and say, you messed this all up.

00:23:31.000 You're 100% right.

00:23:32.000 And we're going to go after these people because of how you made them.

00:23:35.000 And so there's a very important Old Testament story that archetypically reinforces this.

00:23:41.000 And you have to understand, God reserves certain things for himself.

00:23:45.000 Totality and fullness of knowledge and fullness of sovereignty.

00:23:50.000 And so you saw in the earliest teachings of Genesis, human beings push the boundaries, totally disobey God, sends a flood.

00:23:59.000 Not soon far after in Genesis 11, human beings say, you know, Let's try to create a tower that goes all the way to the heavens.

00:24:08.000 Let's create a totality ourselves.

00:24:10.000 A monopoly.

00:24:11.000 Monopoly on knowledge, a monopoly on power.

00:24:13.000 So archetypically, what that means is that we are going to become God.

00:24:17.000 That's what the Tower of Babel means.

00:24:19.000 It's going to be so beautiful.

00:24:21.000 It'll be the greatest thing ever.

00:24:22.000 We'll touch the heavens.

00:24:24.000 We're going to be all-knowing and all-powerful.

00:24:27.000 How did God react to that?

00:24:29.000 He said, I will respond to this with chaos and confusion because that's reserved for me.

00:24:38.000 I'm the one that gets to choose how this place is designed, how it operates, and you are in total depravity of sin as a human being.

00:24:45.000 So he scatters people all throughout the nations.

00:24:47.000 See, people look at the Tower of Babel story wrong archetypically.

00:24:50.000 They say, oh, well, it's God saying that, you know, we have to try to learn to communicate with each other.

00:24:55.000 That's nonsense.

00:24:55.000 That's not the correct interpretation.

00:24:57.000 Instead, it's where in the world is anyone trying to create a totally autonomous structure to try to supersede God?

00:25:07.000 Ask yourself that question.

00:25:09.000 Where are a group of people trying to create a structure?

00:25:14.000 And we know in the 20th century, that was the Soviet Union. 0.98

00:25:16.000 Correct. 0.57

00:25:17.000 We know in the 20th century that was Mussolini's Italy.

00:25:21.000 We even know in the early 20th century, Rockefeller tried to do it in a business way.

00:25:24.000 I'm going to monopolize everything.

00:25:26.000 God will crush you and scatter you, and you will go back to chaos and confusion.

00:25:30.000 So what you have now is social planning utopians, utopian-driven people that are trying to create their own fullness and totality of the planet. 0.92

00:25:42.000 And so they don't like the way God made people that are white. 0.62

00:25:47.000 The left doesn't, because they don't like God.

00:25:49.000 In fact, they don't believe in God.

00:25:52.000 And for them, God is dead.

00:25:53.000 They've fulfilled Nietzsche.

00:25:55.000 I mean, Nietzsche accurately predicted the entire 20th century.

00:26:00.000 He accurately predicted this idea of group guilt is going to end awful.

00:26:08.000 He basically said the 20th century is going to be a bloodbath.

00:26:10.000 And he was right.

00:26:11.000 It was the bloodiest, deadliest century ever in recorded history.

00:26:15.000 Why?

00:26:16.000 Well, it wasn't because of private property.

00:26:20.000 It was actually because of people trying to get rid of private property.

00:26:22.000 Mao, 55 million people killed, dead, murdered.

00:26:25.000 Stalin, probably 60 million.

00:26:28.000 Hitler, anywhere between 15 to 20 million.

00:26:31.000 Mussolini, who knows? 0.52

00:26:32.000 Pol Pot, who knows?

00:26:34.000 Put it all together, 100 million people dead through collectivist experiments. 0.54

00:26:37.000 Do you know what they were trying to do?

00:26:39.000 They're trying to get a return back to autocratic feudalism.

00:26:44.000 Do you know how it worked in the 14th century, which is how they want it to work now?

00:26:48.000 Your father did a horrible thing.

00:26:51.000 You're banished for five generations.

00:26:54.000 That's what they're saying to us now.

00:26:56.000 They're saying to us, oh, you have a certain skin color.

00:26:59.000 People of your skin color were awful to people of a different skin color in the 1860s.

00:27:04.000 Therefore, you're banished. 1.00

00:27:06.000 This is against the Christian ethic, which is you're made in the image of God.

00:27:09.000 You're uniquely created.

00:27:11.000 You're your own individual with your own thoughts, your own feelings, your own characteristics, your own spirituality. 1.00

00:27:15.000 You can have salvation even if your father is a piece of garbage. 1.00

00:27:18.000 Even if your aunt is like the worst person ever, your bloodline does not dictate your destiny. 1.00

00:27:23.000 That's a Christian ethic.

00:27:24.000 You know how?

00:27:25.000 We know this in the conversion of Paul.

00:27:28.000 The conversion of Paul is like the greatest story we have in the Bible of where your past does not have to be your destiny. 0.59

00:27:37.000 That Paul, a Roman Jew, who was literally a Gestapo enforcer, who oversaw the execution of Stephen, was like, how about you throw a couple more stones on him?

00:27:46.000 I don't know if he's hurting enough. 0.93

00:27:47.000 It was literally Paul's job.

00:27:49.000 Encounters Jesus Christ, total conversion, and goes on a ministry that changes Christianity forever and writes basically the entire New Testament. 0.75

00:27:58.000 His bloodline was not his destiny.

00:28:00.000 He became something totally new.

00:28:01.000 We, as Christians, believe in the forgiveness and the liberation from your sin.

00:28:06.000 The left doesn't believe that.

00:28:08.000 And by the way, the Bible tells us that Satan will remind you of your sin regularly and routinely.

00:28:13.000 Whereas Christ will liberate you from your sin, where you're a new person.

00:28:18.000 You're born anew. 0.75

00:28:19.000 So the Christian ethic that built Western civilization, that wasn't even fully fulfilled because we had to fight a war over it and we had to have amendments. 0.60

00:28:25.000 But the idea, the preamble of the Constitution, never changed.

00:28:29.000 Isn't that so cool?

00:28:30.000 That the foundation was laid, but it wasn't fulfilled until later.

00:28:34.000 And now we're trying to digress back into those tribal things, that tribal devolution.

00:28:39.000 This is so anti-Western and so dangerous.

00:28:41.000 And they admit it, Benny.

00:28:43.000 Everything that we know to be true, they want to destroy.

00:28:45.000 Everything.

00:28:46.000 That if you look at a person like Ben Carson, they say, oh, he's not really black.

00:28:50.000 That's what they say. 0.99

00:28:52.000 They believe it.

00:28:55.000 This year has been a total doozy.

00:28:58.000 Impeachment, coronavirus, race riots.

00:29:00.000 Who knows what's next?

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00:29:40.000 Don't ever confess to a sin for which you are not guilty.

00:29:48.000 Anyone else except ever judge?

00:29:51.000 Don't ever judge an entire group of people based on the actions of one individual in that group.

00:29:59.000 Don't ever take someone's skin color and pre-judge them based on the way God made them.

00:30:06.000 And don't ever kneel to anyone other than God.

00:30:09.000 Well, and let's play this out.

00:30:12.000 I want a leftist to tell me that.

00:30:13.000 You know how this conversation will go?

00:30:15.000 We'll say, let's pretend you were right.

00:30:17.000 Let's pretend that we should embrace blood guilt or collective guilt.

00:30:23.000 Do you know anything about my bloodline?

00:30:26.000 The Kirks fought in the Civil War for the Union.

00:30:32.000 We fought to free the slaves.

00:30:34.000 My bloodline on my father's side from Austin, Minnesota, were community organizers for the Republican Party in the 1920s to ensure the women's right to vote and to allow black representation to increase.

00:30:45.000 How about the 1960s?

00:30:47.000 My party, my family in Chicago, in defiance to Richard Daly and John Fitzgerald Kennedy's wishes, were organizing against the union to try to pass the Civil Rights Act.

00:31:00.000 So if you're going to judge me by my bloodline, despite what my family has done, I got to prove myself.

00:31:08.000 So you can't hold it against me, nor can you be held up based on the sins or the merits or the moral work of who people preceded you because you're your own individual.

00:31:18.000 You're not connected to whomever is before you.

00:31:22.000 You have your own characteristics.

00:31:23.000 You're uniquely formed and shaped by our creator.

00:31:26.000 The left doesn't believe that.

00:31:27.000 The way tribalism worked is you're part of this specific character, this specific unit.

00:31:35.000 Can't break out of it.

00:31:36.000 Sorry, you're done.

00:31:38.000 Do you know why the left wants tribalism?

00:31:41.000 Two reasons.

00:31:42.000 One, some of them actually believe that it will be better than what they consider to be a tyrannical Western experiment. 0.97

00:31:47.000 That is so nonsensical and it's ludicrous. 0.98

00:31:50.000 It's pathological and honestly schizophrenic. 0.99

00:31:52.000 It really is.

00:31:54.000 But the second group, oh, they want tribalism because tribes are the easiest to control.

00:32:03.000 In fact, if you wanted total and complete control, if you wanted to make yourself God, if you wanted to make yourself an altar, if you wanted to be a demigod, you wouldn't want a bunch of free-thinking individuals that own property.

00:32:14.000 Are you kidding me?

00:32:15.000 That's like the hardest group of people to control.

00:32:17.000 Like, no, sorry, I got my own family.

00:32:19.000 I go to church.

00:32:21.000 You're fine, but you're not the most important thing in my life.

00:32:23.000 And these atheist leftists are like, no, like, this is, I'm important. 0.67

00:32:28.000 That's why they want to destroy the church.

00:32:30.000 That's why they want to destroy private property because all of a sudden all that stuff gets stripped away.

00:32:33.000 That autocrat becomes really, really important.

00:32:36.000 It's malevolent.

00:32:37.000 Because they don't believe in an afterlife.

00:32:39.000 They don't believe in a creator.

00:32:40.000 The only thing they have is right here and right now.

00:32:42.000 And all that matters is that 75 to 80-year window that they can maximize their pleasure and exploit all of us.

00:32:49.000 That's what they want.

00:32:51.000 And now some of them say, well, we're going to make the world a better place.

00:32:53.000 We're going to improve everything.

00:32:55.000 So let me get this straight.

00:32:56.000 Your confined intellectual capacity and your philosopher king type roundtable is going to save us from what exactly?

00:33:06.000 We need to be saved from you if you think that way.

00:33:09.000 Because we have countless experiments in the 20th century of people like you that quickly turns into 100 million people dead as a bloodbath.

00:33:17.000 It became crystal clear to me, resident of D.C., much to your hatred.

00:33:28.000 The kingdom of D.C. The Kingdom of D.C. became evidently clear that this is an abjectly bankrupt movement that has nothing at its heart other than vile hatred of America and Marxism.

00:33:43.000 And when I woke up in the morning and found a group that call themselves anti-fascists, call themselves Antifa on face, call themselves anti-fascists.

00:33:54.000 A Marxian term, by the way.

00:33:59.000 Made-up Marxian term for political and press reasons.

00:34:04.000 This group was vandalizing and desecrating the World War II Memorial.

00:34:08.000 Now, why would they do that?

00:34:09.000 If you are anti-fascist, then I think we can, at the very least, agree that the worst fascist regime was Hitler's Nazi Germany, Third Reich, and the most effective murder machine in the last hundred years.

00:34:27.000 It was unspeakable evil.

00:34:29.000 Was that?

00:34:30.000 And so just desecrating the memorial to the men and women who fought true fascism in its most vile form, there's absolutely no sense in it and nothing but moral bankruptcy.

00:34:52.000 Then you look down the mall and you see the Lincoln Memorial, also desecrated, defaced by this movement.

00:34:57.000 This movement calls themselves anti-racist.

00:35:00.000 Yet they are desecrating the Lincoln Memorial.

00:35:02.000 Obviously, we're all, we're Americans, we're aware of what Abraham Lincoln did, what the Union Army did, what your family did fighting for the Lincoln Army, fighting for the Union Army.

00:35:17.000 And so if you're going to desecrate the memorial to the generation that fought fascism in its worst form in the last hundred years and the memorial to the man who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, who is a Republican.

00:35:32.000 And you're going to call yourself, you're going to call yourself an anti-fascist.

00:35:37.000 But they actually don't.

00:35:39.000 Anti-racist.

00:35:40.000 And so what you're saying is hyperlogical, and they see all of those as constructs, though, of a society that must be destroyed.

00:35:48.000 Now, they use the terminology Antifa because you have people like Joy Reed that end up defending them.

00:35:54.000 Like, well, who could possibly be against fascists?

00:35:56.000 As if the label is the totality of their activity.

00:36:01.000 Oh, Charlie, are you aware that you and I are both against the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea? 0.96

00:36:08.000 Democratic people. 0.63

00:36:09.000 How could we be against the people?

00:36:09.000 And their people and their republic.

00:36:11.000 How could we be against the Chinese Communist Party?

00:36:14.000 They just want to help people live more communally.

00:36:17.000 Yes, it's the People's Party.

00:36:18.000 That's right.

00:36:19.000 How could you be against people?

00:36:21.000 This is something that changed the branding intentionally.

00:36:25.000 This is something that I don't understand.

00:36:26.000 If you're going to talk about branding, you and I do a lot of branding all day long.

00:36:29.000 And you're wearing a taxationist step shirt.

00:36:31.000 That's very good.

00:36:31.000 You can buy it at TPUSA.com.

00:36:33.000 Hello.

00:36:34.000 Why hasn't the Republican Party branded itself as the Party of Freedom, the Party of Equality?

00:36:42.000 Can you talk me through, talk me through the history, the proud history that conservatives and Republicans should all own and be excited about?

00:36:53.000 And tell me once and for all, like, why are these leftist lies being told about the history of our party and our movement as Republicans?

00:37:05.000 The party's never switched.

00:37:07.000 The Republican Party was founded as an anti-slavery party in Ripon, Wisconsin.

00:37:13.000 It was advocated for people like Thaddeus Stevens and eventually embraced by slave abolitionist Abraham Lincoln, who never actually even saw his vision come to pass.

00:37:22.000 The Republican Party has always been about the liberation and the flourishing of every individual made in the image of God.

00:37:29.000 Remember, the negatives of America are universal.

00:37:32.000 The positives are unique.

00:37:35.000 What do I mean by that?

00:37:36.000 Every country in the history of civilization had slavery.

00:37:39.000 Few fought wars to end it.

00:37:41.000 And even fewer were able to survive those wars and flourish past it.

00:37:45.000 The Republican Party throughout its entire history passed the 13th and 14th Amendment unanimously with no Democrat support.

00:37:52.000 None.

00:37:52.000 Zero.

00:37:53.000 Nothing. 0.71

00:37:53.000 The party, the KKK, the party is a party of Democrats. 0.71

00:37:57.000 The KKK is the Democrat Party. 0.66

00:38:00.000 Ask yourself a question.

00:38:02.000 Who's really focused on skin color right now?

00:38:04.000 Like really focused on our skin color?

00:38:06.000 Democrats.

00:38:07.000 Who was focused on skin color in the 1860s?

00:38:10.000 Democrats. 0.67

00:38:11.000 How about the Civil Rights Act?

00:38:14.000 Passed and advocated for Republicans in the House and the Senate.

00:38:17.000 Now, some people will say, well, it was signed by a Democrat, Lyndon Baines Johnson, because he had no choice.

00:38:22.000 He wanted then the Democrats to switch and take this positive movement.

00:38:26.000 And he saw it and he said, I will only pass the Civil Rights Act if you give me something in return. 0.72

00:38:30.000 The Great Society, which ended up being the most disastrous set of policies ever in the history of black America. 0.63

00:38:37.000 In fact, the liberal welfare state, some could argue, did so much damage to black America. 0.59

00:38:44.000 In fact, any sort of damage that slavery did before it was multiplied because of the liberal welfare state.

00:38:51.000 For example, fatherlessness.

00:38:53.000 Prior to the Great Society program, fatherlessness in the black community was around 22%, 22% to 25%.

00:38:59.000 30 years after the Great Society program, went up to 75%.

00:39:04.000 Thomas Sowell says this. 1.00

00:39:06.000 Black economist.

00:39:07.000 He says the liberal welfare state did more damage to black America than 100 years of segregation did post-America.

00:39:16.000 That's Thomas Sowell saying it, not me.

00:39:19.000 So, the Republican Party has always been the party of you as an individual matter. 0.74

00:39:24.000 Your skin color is indifferent to me. 0.51

00:39:26.000 The Democrats have always been focused on skin color. 0.74

00:39:29.000 The Democrats were the ones that said segregation today, segregation tomorrow.

00:39:32.000 The Republicans were the one that called in the National Guard and called in using the 1807 Insurrection Act signed that was under debate now by Tom Cotton.

00:39:42.000 Guess what?

00:39:42.000 Dwight D. Eisenhower used the Insurrection Act to use federal troops to quell racist rebellions against white people.

00:39:49.000 How about the National Rifle Association?

00:39:50.000 Those of us that argue for gun ownership, the National Rifle Association is the longest, lasting, and strongest civil rights organization in the history of the country.

00:39:59.000 Do you know how they got their start? 0.68

00:40:00.000 Arming Southern blacks against the KKK. 0.61

00:40:04.000 Why do we want people to own firearms?

00:40:05.000 Because we know the world is broken.

00:40:07.000 We want good people to defend themselves against bad people.

00:40:09.000 Why do we want individuals to be able to flourish?

00:40:13.000 Because we believe every person matters.

00:40:15.000 The Democrats believed in collectivized control and went from the plantation where they literally owned black people.

00:40:22.000 They realized that their time was over with and the war was won by the Union.

00:40:26.000 So then the Democrats transitioned to, no, don't let them in my communities.

00:40:29.000 Republicans were pushing for integration.

00:40:31.000 Republicans were pushing for black senators, which did get elected under the Republican Party.

00:40:36.000 They'll never tell you that.

00:40:37.000 Simultaneously, in the early 1900s, the Republican Party pushed for women's suffrage.

00:40:41.000 You can thank the Republican Party for women's right to vote.

00:40:44.000 That was not the Democrat Party. 1.00

00:40:45.000 That was the Republican Party.

00:40:46.000 Through the 30s and the 40s, it was Democrats who did not want blacks to even serve in the United States military.

00:40:53.000 And it was Republicans that pushed for the total and full integration and desegregation of our armed forces.

00:40:58.000 It was Dwight D. Eisenhower, who served from president, served president from 1952 to 1960, that fought tooth and nail against bitter Southern Democrats.

00:41:09.000 Now, people say, well, don't you understand the party switched then?

00:41:13.000 If the party switched, why is it that only one Democrat senator and one Democrat congressman switched parties from Democrat to Republican?

00:41:21.000 Do you know why they switched?

00:41:23.000 Because as the South became considerably less racist, it became more Republican.

00:41:29.000 Wouldn't it be the other way around?

00:41:31.000 Wouldn't it be that if the South got less racist, it'd be more Democrat?

00:41:34.000 In fact, as the South decided to betray racist roots, it embraced Republican righteousness.

00:41:42.000 It didn't stay Democrat the less racist they became.

00:41:46.000 The Republican Party made a mistake, though.

00:41:48.000 The Republican Party in the late 80s and early 90s became a party of Greenwich, Connecticut.

00:41:53.000 It became a party of cocktail party schemes of how to best centrally plan our country.

00:41:58.000 That turned a blind eye to urban America because their votes are kind of irrelevant.

00:42:02.000 And let Jesse Jackson and Al Sharp then deal with the inner cities because they don't matter to us.

00:42:06.000 Mayor Giuliani never believed that.

00:42:07.000 He said, every citizen of New York matters to me.

00:42:09.000 That's why he was elected as a Republican of New York City.

00:42:13.000 But we as Republicans did not take black America and the crisis in black America because of the Great Society Program, which is not systemic racism, by the way.

00:42:23.000 It was not systemic racism for the reason why black America was suffering. 0.59

00:42:26.000 Instead, it was Democrat exploitation for political advantage, is what it was.

00:42:30.000 It was the Democrats saying, how can we create a set of policies that will destroy their ambition, destroy their imagination, take the fathers out of the home, and turn it into Democrat-controlled precincts?

00:42:43.000 And they accomplished their goal completely and totally.

00:42:46.000 Here's what the Republican Party needs to reassume the mantle as the party of American liberation because it's our party, Benny, that freed the slaves, not the Democrats.

00:42:56.000 It's our party that Abraham Lincoln said, I am the first Republican president.

00:43:01.000 It was our party that elected Dwight D. Eisenhower, who stood against bitter Southern segregationists.

00:43:06.000 It was our party that tore down the Berlin Wall to free human beings.

00:43:10.000 Republican Party, freedom of human beings. 0.60

00:43:12.000 Democrat Party, bondage of human beings, literal bondage of human beings, and they used to own slaves. 0.57

00:43:18.000 The Democrat Party thinks they own black people because they used to.

00:43:22.000 Here's where the Republican Party needs to really get serious.

00:43:25.000 Assume an agenda that is intellectually harmonic to why the party was founded in Wisconsin in the 1860s. 0.60

00:43:36.000 School choice for black kids, restoring fathers back in the home.

00:43:40.000 We are going to have strong, vibrant communities again where every human being can succeed.

00:43:46.000 And we will fight the Democrat Party collective ideology at every single turn.

00:43:53.000 The Republican Party is the party of American liberation.

00:43:57.000 I don't hear that enough for them.

00:43:58.000 Instead, I hear stuff about corporate tax cuts.

00:44:01.000 I hear stuff about fighting foreign wars that don't represent the interests of the middle class.

00:44:07.000 If you ask any honest individual that cares about the betterment of our country, they're begging Republicans to do this, Benny.

00:44:14.000 They're saying, please, will you talk about how you're going to improve working people's lives again?

00:44:19.000 This is why Donald Trump was so amazing.

00:44:21.000 Donald Trump said, wait a second, I'm a Republican.

00:44:26.000 Because I actually have always thought for liberation.

00:44:28.000 I always guess I was a metropolitan Democrat, but I never really believed a lot of the stuff they said.

00:44:31.000 But for the plumber, the electrician, the welder, the person that lays tile for a living, for black America, I'm going to communicate to you.

00:44:38.000 You know, Donald Trump's the only president, Republican candidate since H.W. Bush, and maybe in the 90s you had Bob Dole do this, maybe, who actually asked the black America to vote for him. 0.52

00:44:49.000 So for black America that's watching this, I'm not going to say, what do you have to lose?

00:44:53.000 Do you know what you have to gain?

00:44:55.000 To gain, you have a liberation where you can have a flourishing, unlike ever, but what are the Democrats selling you?

00:45:00.000 Reparations?

00:45:03.000 More broken public schools?

00:45:04.000 No police?

00:45:05.000 Anarchy in the streets?

00:45:07.000 Leaders like Elon Omar?

00:45:10.000 Republican Party has lost an opportunity the last 20 years.

00:45:13.000 Reassume the mantle, and we can build a movement that will put the Democrats in the perpetual political minority for the next hundred years.

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00:46:44.000 If you are a Republican and you are listening to this podcast or watching this on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter, and what you just heard is something that should make you proud.

00:46:59.000 There is a movement out there that is attempting to shame you, make you wake up in the morning and feel ashamed of how you believe or who you voted for.

00:47:08.000 You should be proud of your history as a conservative.

00:47:11.000 Should be proud of your history as a Republican.

00:47:14.000 And the people who should be apologizing and should feel ashamed are the people who walk into the DNC and work every day.

00:47:20.000 Well, it's also an intellectual incongruency.

00:47:22.000 That's exactly right.

00:47:23.000 Have Democrat behind their last name and run for office. 0.79

00:47:26.000 They should feel ashamed of their party's history and they should be ashamed.

00:47:30.000 And if there's anyone who should be apologizing right now, it should be the Democratic Party for the treatment of black Americans, not anyone now, yesterday, and forever.

00:47:40.000 The Democrat Party's history, let's just be honest. 0.69

00:47:43.000 The Democrats' history of black people has been the worst track record of any governance that I've ever seen in American history. 1.00

00:47:53.000 I won't say ever. 1.00

00:47:54.000 That wouldn't be fair because there's obviously international examples worse than that.

00:47:57.000 But in American history, you can't point to an example of a group that has been mistreated by a political party more than black America with Democrats.

00:48:04.000 It's amazing because in my neighborhood in Washington, D.C., it's a majority black neighborhood.

00:48:10.000 And my wife and I have lived there for five years.

00:48:12.000 There's all, there's, it's a working class neighborhood, but there's a wide variety of people living in our neighborhood.

00:48:21.000 And here's what I hear on a daily basis, a daily basis.

00:48:25.000 Treat me like a human being.

00:48:28.000 No one's asking for special treatment.

00:48:29.000 They're asking for an opportunity in America.

00:48:32.000 Nobody's asking for kneeling or reparations or to be treated like anything other than a human who's my neighbor, who is also living in America with a zip code in America, born as an American.

00:48:47.000 What's also amazing is that there are multiple black immigrants in my neighborhood who have come here from various African countries.

00:48:54.000 You will never find someone who is more appreciative of their opportunities in this country than someone who is a recent immigrant, especially if they come from extreme poverty.

00:49:05.000 And that generally holds true. 0.98

00:49:07.000 There are obviously some notable exceptions to that, but that generally holds true.

00:49:12.000 And in my experience, wanting simple, to be simply treated equally as a human being is what my neighbors seek.

00:49:22.000 And I coach their kids in football.

00:49:25.000 I'm with them for their parties and in the backyard, and that's what they want.

00:49:32.000 Nobody's asking for special treatment.

00:49:34.000 This entire complex, it seems like a complex.

00:49:42.000 It's not reflective of the reality that I see on a daily basis in my neighborhood.

00:49:47.000 You know why? 0.97

00:49:48.000 Because it's designed by white liberal elites, the messianic complex, to continue to keep black people down. 0.97

00:49:56.000 This is not a black-led movement. 0.98

00:49:56.000 That's why. 0.98

00:49:59.000 And for the black politicians that do advance it, like Sheila Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, it's not unheard of to have leaders that actually don't try to solve the problem if the problem benefits them politically or financially.

00:50:14.000 I mean, if black America started to really emerge into the upper middle class, which I know they can, I know a set of policies can get them there, and I actually advocate for them, unlike the bitter white liberal racists that run our country, like Joe Biden, who's a segregationist, sympathizing Chinese agent, anti-American, confused individual.

00:50:35.000 I'll stop there.

00:50:40.000 When you have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, you have to ask yourself the question: if they get up into the upper middle class, does that help or hurt Al Sharpton?

00:50:48.000 If all of a sudden black America's income goes up to $70,000, $80,000, $90,000 a year, do you think they're going to continue to listen to Maxine Waters or Elon Omar, Alexandria Casio-Cortez's grievance politics? 0.65

00:50:59.000 Do you think they're going to take that seriously?

00:51:01.000 Or do you think they're going to be kind of dismissive of it?

00:51:03.000 You think they're going to be like, yeah, actually, my life is pretty good.

00:51:09.000 And so people then say, well, Charlie, there are systemic barriers that are preventing black America from succeeding.

00:51:15.000 Fair enough. 0.95

00:51:16.000 Imposed by Democrat politicians and Democrat city councils and Democrat mayors and Democrat national presidential candidates while the Republicans refused to even engage with these communities.

00:51:27.000 So I put fault at Republicans as well.

00:51:30.000 School choice for black kids. 0.99

00:51:31.000 Destroy the Democrat teacher union cartel. 0.99

00:51:33.000 You got 13 schools in Baltimore where a kid can't read.

00:51:33.000 It's that simple.

00:51:36.000 Every teacher should be fired, fired.

00:51:38.000 In fact, they should be privately sued for educational malpractice for still getting paid.

00:51:43.000 Do you know what my job would look like if I had an 0 for 7,000 track record for the kids that I dealt with?

00:51:49.000 Yet these people are still getting full paying pensions.

00:51:52.000 They should be run out of the school system.

00:51:54.000 And guess what?

00:51:55.000 We know that these people say, well, they're really tough to teach.

00:51:58.000 What are you, a racist?

00:52:00.000 Because I think that teacher unions might be.

00:52:03.000 They want the perpetual failing of these schools.

00:52:06.000 I think reading is a civil right.

00:52:07.000 I really do.

00:52:08.000 I have a radical populist opinion that if you can't read the Constitution of the United States, that your government has not served you.

00:52:17.000 I think if you cannot read the preamble by the age of fourth or fifth grade, if you can't read every word and know what it means generally, I know there's some words that are kind of difficult there.

00:52:26.000 But if you cannot read the preamble of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the articles in the Constitution, I think the government has failed you as a civil rights issue.

00:52:37.000 And so how do we get people to read?

00:52:38.000 Well, we know how we do this.

00:52:40.000 We know what schools work and what don't work.

00:52:42.000 We know the most important thing to impact a kid's future is not funding because inner-city schools have more than enough funding.

00:52:48.000 Baltimore schools have been funded even more than suburban schools.

00:52:51.000 And there's that ridiculous systemic racism video going around where I debunked.

00:52:55.000 My debunking of it has gone viral, millions of views. 0.90

00:52:58.000 And that whole video is so unbelievably racist because they just assume that the poor person is black and the white person is, you know, the poor person's black and the rich person's white.

00:53:08.000 The assumptions are so stereotypical.

00:53:10.000 But in Florida, for example, every student gets the same amount of funding from the state capital.

00:53:14.000 They do not fund their schools through property taxes, Florida being the fourth or fifth biggest state in the entire country.

00:53:19.000 So the overgeneralization of that video is incredible malpractice.

00:53:24.000 And it should be taken down as disinformation by the tech companies, to be honest with you.

00:53:27.000 But it won't be, of course.

00:53:29.000 So what do we do about this?

00:53:31.000 We need to have a Marshall Plan for our inner cities, not for giving people money.

00:53:36.000 Marshall Plan was a U.S. government intervention in Eastern Europe after World War II to rebuild Eastern Europe.

00:53:41.000 We need something big and bold.

00:53:43.000 But guess what?

00:53:44.000 Some of it has to be our welfare programs are going to be designed about rebuilding the family, not subsidizing fatherlessness.

00:53:51.000 I want you to understand the imagery here right now.

00:53:54.000 When you pay your taxes, you guys are paying your taxes coming up in July, July 15th, because we moved the date.

00:53:59.000 Pay your taxes, Senator Dana.

00:54:01.000 You know that we have thousands of people on U.S. government payroll that go knock on doors to make sure fathers aren't in the home?

00:54:07.000 It's the fatherlessness enforcement squad. 0.62

00:54:11.000 So seriously, they go knock on doors and they say, excuse me, Mrs. Smith. 0.60

00:54:16.000 We know you're getting a welfare check, single mother check. 0.98

00:54:19.000 We're just here to make sure you're actually a single mother. 0.95

00:54:23.000 We're paying our own people to make sure the families stay broken. 0.56

00:54:28.000 Now, the intention is, well, we have to help single mothers.

00:54:31.000 I totally agree with that, by the way.

00:54:32.000 I think we should.

00:54:34.000 But the intention has now been turned into a subsidy to keep the family broken.

00:54:40.000 In fact, it's even worse than that. 0.67

00:54:42.000 It's a subsidy to make sure the mother never gets married.

00:54:45.000 In fact, there's a subsidy to reinforce the cowardness of the man that abandons the family.

00:54:53.000 Because then he has an out, like, well, I don't want you to lose your check.

00:54:57.000 I don't want you to lose your check.

00:54:59.000 If I marry you, our income might be altered.

00:55:02.000 And so the opposite, you should subsidize the good behavior.

00:55:05.000 Some people say, well, that will do harm because it will keep abusive families together.

00:55:10.000 I'm sure there's some provision that can be written in that if a man ends up being abusive to the woman.

00:55:15.000 But how about this?

00:55:15.000 How about you have a sunset period to it?

00:55:17.000 And by the way, why is the government involved in this at all?

00:55:19.000 This should be a church-led issue.

00:55:21.000 Block grant it to private religious institutions that will then dole it out, and then you could go through that capacity. 0.83

00:55:29.000 So, Benny, here's how you kind of summarize this: you have black leader Democrats that are misincentivized to actually keep black people perpetually poor. 0.93

00:55:39.000 And I can't think of anything more evil than that. 0.85

00:55:45.000 There was a time, this is another Thomas Soule who has absolutely required viewing and reading, especially in this moment in American history. 0.93

00:55:55.000 There was a time after the Civil Rights Act was passed where the black middle class was growing at a faster pace, a far more blistering pace than the white middle class. 0.52

00:56:08.000 If I'm remembering my data, once again, sourcing to Thomas Soule, correctly. 0.69

00:56:15.000 Also, a spectacular quote from him is about how those who wish to keep us racially divided are doing so because they lose all power when there's racial harmony.

00:56:31.000 The point is to keep people divided.

00:56:33.000 Yes.

00:56:34.000 And I find that, again, abjectly and absolutely insidious.

00:56:40.000 It is.

00:56:41.000 It's antithetical to the American experiment. 1.00

00:56:43.000 It's antithetical to the Christian basis and founding of our nation. 0.99

00:56:48.000 And in quite blunt terms, damn it, it's racist. 0.99

00:56:54.000 Of course it is. 1.00

00:56:55.000 It's just the left is racist.

00:56:58.000 The right is not.

00:56:59.000 Now, are there individuals on the very fringe identitarian right, if you will?

00:57:05.000 I hate these terms, left versus right, because they're so freaking inaccurate. 0.52

00:57:08.000 That might be racist. 0.85

00:57:10.000 Yeah, guess what?

00:57:10.000 You know what we do with those people?

00:57:11.000 We kick them out.

00:57:14.000 And we do.

00:57:15.000 They have no place in our movement.

00:57:17.000 But then you have entire superstructures on the Democrat Party that are the most bitterly racist people that advance it and admit it, like Joe Biden.

00:57:28.000 It's quite a time.

00:57:30.000 It's quite a time right now to be living in this country.

00:57:34.000 How do conservatives reclaim that proud history of being the party of freedom?

00:57:41.000 Because the alternative has never been more dire.

00:57:43.000 Well, I am a firm believer to put a point on this.

00:57:48.000 We'll be making a feature-length documentary about this at Turning Point USA very soon. 0.54

00:57:54.000 But I'm a firm believer that the real enemy right now in the American streets and the real enemy right now that is torching your business and performing to the letter what their instruction manual has been given to them is Marxist.

00:58:10.000 It's Marxism.

00:58:11.000 It's postmodernist, but yeah, it's the copy and paste of Karl Marx and the Communist Manifesto and every communist revolution that has toppled capitalism is being employed right now in our country.

00:58:30.000 I do find it also very chillingly ironic that if you go through the Communist Manifesto and you ask, at the very end, they ask, what does a communist society look like?

00:58:43.000 What does a perfect communist society look like?

00:58:44.000 Well, you have guaranteed federal job.

00:58:47.000 You have guaranteed basic income.

00:58:50.000 You have free education.

00:58:54.000 Government-run free education.

00:58:59.000 You have a state that is more powerful than the church.

00:59:02.000 You have the destruction and demonization of private industry, private property.

00:59:07.000 The bourgeois cease to exist.

00:59:12.000 There should be no millionaires or billionaires.

00:59:17.000 That is the tenets of the modern left.

00:59:21.000 Spelled out plainly in 1848 by Karl Marx.

00:59:24.000 It is the plank, the platform that the party will put forward at the DMC convention in a couple months.

00:59:30.000 They'll boo God again.

00:59:31.000 Yes. 0.78

00:59:32.000 And so if you were to ask where the major, where the major cultural rift is right now, I would argue that far more than white versus black, the actual rub is freedom versus tyranny right now. 0.54

00:59:50.000 Yes.

00:59:51.000 And do you know what most Republicans and conservatives and pundits say when you bring up socialism as their reason why you can't support it?

01:00:03.000 Think about the talking point you hear so often. 0.99

01:00:06.000 That it sucks. 0.99

01:00:08.000 How are you going to pay for it? 1.00

01:00:11.000 What an awful, weak, cowardly, morally questionable response. 0.96

01:00:18.000 How many times have you heard that, Benny? 0.97

01:00:19.000 A lot.

01:00:20.000 How are we going to pay for it?

01:00:22.000 It's a horrible talking point.

01:00:23.000 Of course you could pay for it.

01:00:25.000 Of course you could.

01:00:26.000 But think about the question.

01:00:28.000 You've already admitted that it's valid.

01:00:30.000 Yeah.

01:00:31.000 So every time we talk about it, not every person, but so many people.

01:00:35.000 Oh, but how are you going to pay for this?

01:00:37.000 Hold on a second.

01:00:39.000 What if I could?

01:00:41.000 Is it a good idea?

01:00:42.000 We've just proven that you can print trillions out of nowhere.

01:00:46.000 $6 trillion.

01:00:47.000 For fun.

01:00:49.000 Instead, the question should be, or the response should be, your ideas are evil.

01:00:56.000 Your ideas have led to a body count of 100 million plus.

01:01:00.000 But even if they didn't, let's pretend that there wasn't a cemetery of 100 million human beings.

01:01:04.000 That if I listed every name, I'd be here for the next six years to give you an idea of how long it would take of every human being that's died under autocratic collectivism in the last 500 years, because it hasn't just been under Marxism.

01:01:17.000 There's Rassoianism.

01:01:19.000 People have used collectivized control for so long.

01:01:23.000 But let's pretend that we've just reinvented it.

01:01:26.000 It's still evil.

01:01:28.000 Because you are your own sovereign human being.

01:01:34.000 You are not a slave to the state.

01:01:37.000 Rights are what you have in the state of nature.

01:01:40.000 Rights are not given to you by the state.

01:01:43.000 They are not.

01:01:45.000 Rights are given to you by God, naturally.

01:01:48.000 So if you were alone in the forest, what do you have?

01:01:52.000 Your right to consciousness, your right to property, what you create, your right to speech, your right to defend your existence, your right to not have some autocrat come and steal whatever you might have from you.

01:02:07.000 In the state of nature, that's the baseline of rights.

01:02:13.000 We call them negative rights, actually.

01:02:17.000 Not positive rights, because negative rights are we are worried they're going to be taken away from us.

01:02:22.000 That's the way we design our government.

01:02:24.000 John Locke did the most amazing scholarship on this of any other person.

01:02:27.000 He inspired the founding more so than any other person.

01:02:30.000 And in the Declaration of Independence, our birth certificate, it says clearly, laws of nature and nature's God.

01:02:37.000 When you write King George, you know what they were really saying?

01:02:40.000 It's a higher power than you.

01:02:42.000 But do you know what we don't talk about enough in the founding of America?

01:02:45.000 What was America before 1776?

01:02:48.000 It was religious colonies of people that read the Bible every single day and that were under some form of self-rule, that understood the scriptures, that understood that there should not be anything higher than God.

01:03:00.000 And King George was playing God with the colonies. 0.59

01:03:04.000 And King George was becoming the oppressive ruler, the Tower of Babel, if you will.

01:03:08.000 King George was trying to poke and prod the American colonists.

01:03:11.000 And it's because of their belief in a higher power that they were compelled to revolution.

01:03:15.000 And even then, only 3% of the American population actually participated in the revolution, and only 30% supported the revolution.

01:03:22.000 In fact, 30% of Americans during the revolution were helping the Brits.

01:03:28.000 In fact, 30% did nothing.

01:03:30.000 30% participated.

01:03:32.000 3% fought, and 30% helped the Brits like Benedict Arnold.

01:03:37.000 And so you have this incredible experiment.

01:03:40.000 And so people say in the manifesto, as you mentioned, free housing, free this, free that.

01:03:45.000 Like, that's evil.

01:03:47.000 We got to start talking on moral terms now, man.

01:03:49.000 Not technocratic, utilitarian corporate tool.

01:03:52.000 Oh, well, I don't think it's good for our bottom line, and that will destroy business.

01:03:56.000 You're going to, first of all, irrelevant, immaterial, and you're going to lose on that argument.

01:04:02.000 Instead, you must, you need a much more deeper philosophical point, which is rights cannot be given to you.

01:04:09.000 It's not something you get in a breadline or an old country buffet.

01:04:14.000 Oh, you have a right to health care.

01:04:16.000 That's nonsense.

01:04:17.000 You have a right to health care.

01:04:19.000 You have a right to be able to not have the government get in the way of what you see most important and most fit in your life.

01:04:28.000 And the lack of people being able to articulate this and understand this has led to our road to tyranny or road to serfdom.

01:04:38.000 So you have Republicans that say, well, how are you going to pay for it?

01:04:40.000 You're basically admitting that you got nothing except, or the other talking point, which is equally as bad, is, oh, it's not as good as you think it is.

01:04:49.000 Yeah, free health care.

01:04:51.000 It's actually a pretty bad idea because the health care is going to suck.

01:04:55.000 No, even if it was great, I don't want it.

01:04:58.000 Even if the health care worked, you're going to lose the utilitarian argument too, because they will publish study after study through their mass propaganda machine to convince people it's a good idea.

01:05:10.000 But where they'll never be able to convince anyone is: should government do that?

01:05:16.000 That's where the terrain must be fought on this.

01:05:18.000 And Republicans have refused to do that for far too long.

01:05:23.000 What is the call to action for a moment when the mob can storm the gates of the White House?

01:05:35.000 The mob can break into a historic church that has been around for 200 years, the church of presidents, and light it ablaze.

01:05:45.000 And then you watch the bishop of that church condemn the president for standing outside with a Bible.

01:05:55.000 What moment are we in right now in America where it's seen as permissible to burn churches?

01:06:04.000 Where was the America of, I believe, earlier in my life, I turned 34 this week, where a burning of anything, a mosque, a synagogue, a church, regardless of the denomination, more mature crime?

01:06:25.000 Yes.

01:06:26.000 And then all leaders would have coalesced around that moment, right?

01:06:31.000 There would have been this great gathering, this revival of the church saying, this is wrong.

01:06:37.000 Even if it happened to a mosque or a synagogue, everyone would have said this is wrong. 0.99

01:06:41.000 Woke Christians were posting black squares. 1.00

01:06:44.000 Where was that? 0.74

01:06:46.000 Why were guys like you and I in this extreme minority online who were standing up and saying, Well, I'll tell you right now, and for people watching this, subscribe to my show.

01:06:58.000 I have a very important message coming out tomorrow, and the name of the episode is This is Personal.

01:07:05.000 I, on the show coming out tomorrow, I raise, I literally push the fire alarm.

01:07:10.000 This is it.

01:07:14.000 I'm not trying to be too hyperbolic or too, you know me.

01:07:18.000 I don't get into this kind of language that often, but if this continues with so few people speaking out, with the cowards running the roost, and with courageous people coming under the assault that we have to come under, we will not have a country in a decade.

01:07:33.000 We'll not.

01:07:34.000 We'll not have a country.

01:07:35.000 This is not something that you can go collect signatures and petition afterwards.

01:07:40.000 You can't vote this up or down in an election.

01:07:42.000 This is a cultural thing now.

01:07:43.000 It just is.

01:07:45.000 And so what's the call to action? 1.00

01:07:46.000 Stop being a freaking coward. 0.98

01:07:49.000 Like, stop worrying endlessly about what your friend... 1.00

01:07:53.000 Those aren't your friends.

01:07:55.000 Who are you?

01:07:56.000 Are you a patriot?

01:07:57.000 Are you going to be part of that 30% that helped King George?

01:08:00.000 Are you going to be part of that 30% that go helped the enemy?

01:08:03.000 Are you going to go be Benedict Arnold?

01:08:04.000 Because if you are, declare your colors now.

01:08:06.000 And we'll fight with our small fighting men and we will die standing and fighting, not in our knees.

01:08:12.000 They want to take every single one of us out.

01:08:14.000 If there is a button to take out Turning Point and the Charlie Kirk Show and Benny Johnson and Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin and every single one of us, if they could push that button, they would do it in an instant.

01:08:30.000 One second.

01:08:32.000 And they are trying to move the Overton window, the Overton window, from what is unthinkable to what is acceptable.

01:08:36.000 But it also can go the other way, from what is acceptable to unthinkable.

01:08:40.000 Where I will tweet something like white privilege is a racist myth rooted in untruth designed to destroy our country.

01:08:47.000 Something I've tweeted for five years.

01:08:48.000 Now I'm getting calls that people are getting kicked out of school and getting fired from their job for liking and retweeting something I've been tweeting for five years that because one evil police officer and three police officers that did nothing and cowardice is not something that's hard to find, all of a sudden that singular incident is a reason why we have to reconfigure the entire Western society.

01:09:11.000 One bad police officer who does something evil and kills a man on the side of the street is a reason to destroy everything that our grandfathers and our forefathers fought for in the streets.

01:09:23.000 One bad police officer is the reason why we have to destroy World War II memorials.

01:09:27.000 One bad police officer is the reason we have to burn down a 200-year-old church. 0.63

01:09:32.000 One bad police officer is the reason why we now have to distribute millions of dollars from corporate America to the most radical elements of Black Lives Matter that wants to destroy the Western prescribed nuclear family.

01:09:44.000 One bad evil police officer, you're trying to tell me, is now the reason why we have to have NFL players going through multiple apologies for standing with the flag. 0.76

01:09:54.000 One bad police officer is the reason we're going to basically destroy our country.

01:09:58.000 Is that what I'm hearing?

01:09:59.000 Because that's basically what I'm hearing right now.

01:10:02.000 Because usually the Overton window only changes after something like Pearl Harbor and 9-11.

01:10:06.000 Not one police officer that puts a neck on an unarmed black man who does something evil.

01:10:12.000 That singular incident is not our country.

01:10:15.000 We're not systemically racist.

01:10:16.000 We're systemically unracist. 0.93

01:10:18.000 So if you're telling me that one police officer, one guy, and three cowards around him, and again, cowards are not hard to find.

01:10:25.000 That does not, people say that surprises me.

01:10:27.000 Read history, okay?

01:10:29.000 Read history. 1.00

01:10:32.000 That video should trouble any civil and decent human being.

01:10:36.000 But that video should not be a license for the arson of America.

01:10:43.000 That video is not a reason to uncap the button to decide to destroy, to push the thermonuclear weapon on Western society.

01:10:53.000 So, just so I'm understanding, one incident in Minnesota is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

01:11:00.000 And if that's the case, shame on America.

01:11:04.000 If we're going to let one individual and three cowards break our country in half, we didn't have much of a country. 0.89

01:11:15.000 We didn't. 0.57

01:11:16.000 Because we're stronger than this.

01:11:18.000 At least I thought we were.

01:11:24.000 Ouch.

01:11:27.000 If you know the history of America, you'll know exactly how much this country has gone through and exactly what kind of a country it is.

01:11:35.000 You'll realize that it's a country that always reforms itself.

01:11:39.000 It's a country of reform.

01:11:40.000 There's no such thing as a perfection.

01:11:42.000 It's a country of self-correction.

01:11:44.000 Yes. 0.95

01:11:44.000 And that is the Western story. 0.95

01:11:46.000 And so the matrix is human beings, the decision-making matrix, human beings are broken by original sin, biblical idea, right?

01:11:53.000 Unlike the Rassoian idea that human beings are broken only because the system around them is broken by people that weren't smart enough.

01:11:58.000 That's what the left thinks.

01:11:59.000 That's why I want to get rid of prisons, get rid of police, because the system they think is making human beings do bad things.

01:12:04.000 We think that human beings are naturally awful.

01:12:07.000 Therefore, we first and foremost want to make sure that government does not get used by the awful human beings against us.

01:12:12.000 That's kind of a basic thing.

01:12:14.000 But secondly, the idea of Western society is a pursuit towards gradual, intentional, disciplinary self-correction.

01:12:25.000 Not radical, progressive revolution, right?

01:12:30.000 Because we also know that if you radically try to redefine something big and you get it wrong, what you're going to get is far worse than what you were trying to correct. 0.58

01:12:40.000 And so the story of America through women's suffrage, the civil rights of the 1960s, the civil war, the suffrage of black voters is a gradual pursuit of self-correction, but also the restraint against things that should not have to happen. 0.54

01:12:56.000 Like actually saying no to really, really bad ideas. 0.65

01:12:59.000 What Ronald Reagan was so good at.

01:13:01.000 Shutting down.

01:13:02.000 The left wanted this to happen like 30 years ahead of time.

01:13:05.000 Like the left actually wanted their communist revolution to happen in the 80s.

01:13:09.000 You know, we've convinced ourselves that in the Cold War, it was a one-sided Cold War, that we were the only ones that were sending agents into the other country.

01:13:18.000 And we never had the multi-dimensional maturity to ever think, well, what if the KGB were sending people into our country?

01:13:27.000 We were sending spy planes over Moscow.

01:13:29.000 We were sending people into Eastern Europe. 0.99

01:13:31.000 We know that.

01:13:32.000 I mean, the agency has said it, and we know people that have done it. 0.93

01:13:35.000 Did you ever think that maybe the Soviets were sending people into our country?

01:13:39.000 Did you ever have the maybe the think, wow, a country of 100 million people that controls most of the Eastern Hemisphere, controls Afghanistan, has an outpost 90 miles from Miami in Cuba, has overthrown Rhodesia and turned it into Zimbabwe.

01:13:55.000 Do you ever think that maybe they're also trying to infiltrate us? 0.56

01:13:59.000 And if that's so, which is a logical presupposition, did they ever leave?

01:14:04.000 Did they ever stop?

01:14:10.000 What we're seeing now is the 30-year byproduct of a lot of Eastern Soviet forces that played nice with people like Bernie Sanders.

01:14:21.000 That's why he honeymooned there.

01:14:23.000 He was honeymooning there because he got insight into their plan to radically redefine Western society.

01:14:28.000 He didn't honeymoon there because of the weather.

01:14:30.000 He didn't honeymoon there because they have really good beaches in Stalingrad.

01:14:35.000 He definitely didn't honeymoon there because he was overly interested in learning about Russian literature, of which Russian literature stopped being worthwhile as soon as they took over the freaking country and burned all the books.

01:14:49.000 Ras Sputin is only as good as like a couple pages of it. 0.70

01:14:53.000 It's informative, but it's kind of awful.

01:14:56.000 No, he went there because he wanted the instruction manual.

01:15:00.000 Bernie Sanders' honeymoon there because he wanted to go to boot camp.

01:15:04.000 That's why we have videos of Bernie Sanders chilling out, laughing with his best buddies on honeymoon.

01:15:10.000 We have a video of it.

01:15:13.000 So Bernie learned.

01:15:15.000 Bernie was informed.

01:15:16.000 He wasn't alone.

01:15:18.000 Like when you go back to America, you have a lot of other comrades that will be vocal and unvocal.

01:15:25.000 And you know where he found most of his friends?

01:15:27.000 In the university.

01:15:29.000 And the university that bitterly hates our country.

01:15:33.000 And now you're seeing the byproduct of our broken, rotten university system.

01:15:38.000 They've educated so many upper-middle-class suburbanites because we've hypnotized people on the upper income and distribution.

01:15:44.000 They must send their kids to elite schools.

01:15:47.000 And then they wonder, well, why are my kids, why do they hate America?

01:15:51.000 Well, first of all, you're also donating hundreds of millions of dollars for those schools, number one.

01:15:54.000 Number two, you wonder why they hate America?

01:15:56.000 The entire institution hates our country.

01:15:58.000 They literally have Confucius Institutes on over 100 U.S. campuses that are funded by the Chinese Communist Party.

01:16:05.000 Maybe this will be a moment when America realizes that the Cold War never ended.

01:16:11.000 The wall fell, but the cells and the sleeper cells of the agents never disappeared.

01:16:15.000 And people say, oh, Charlie, what's your basis for this? 0.99

01:16:18.000 Go back to KGB testimony of agents that have now come out and they've said that this was done, that the useful idiots of America will be the downfall. 0.98

01:16:27.000 This has been in declassified agency memos now. 0.98

01:16:29.000 It's all public.

01:16:32.000 People don't like talking about it.

01:16:40.000 It is amazing how history repeats.

01:16:43.000 And it's amazing how this can't happen without two groups, identitarian, religious groups, hating each other. 0.67

01:16:56.000 And these elements saw the Black Lives Matter movement and moment as a Trojan horse. 0.66

01:17:04.000 Amen. 0.75

01:17:05.000 To push these elements into the streets, and there was a barrier that could protect them, and they could go out and be radical in this name.

01:17:14.000 And they could co-opt this movement.

01:17:16.000 They could co-opt this movement and attempt to co-opt America and attempt to fundamentally tear down our history, our government, our rights, and do it in a way that Marx would have been proud of.

01:17:30.000 So I'm going to continue with the bad news, and I'm going to tell you some good news.

01:17:33.000 Bad news is conservatives aren't even getting close to fighting right now.

01:17:36.000 We're not even close.

01:17:37.000 In fact, we are the most docile I've ever seen us, ever.

01:17:40.000 And now there's a reason for this.

01:17:42.000 The lockdowns contributed to it greatly.

01:17:43.000 We've atrophied.

01:17:44.000 Our muscles have grown weak.

01:17:46.000 You and I, we never stopped fighting because of the lockdown.

01:17:49.000 We fought harder.

01:17:50.000 We fought better.

01:17:50.000 We fought more agile.

01:17:52.000 But we're not like most conservatives.

01:17:54.000 But for the first time in the Trump presidency, we're on defense.

01:17:57.000 Why?

01:17:58.000 Because they literally took his rallies away.

01:18:00.000 They took away the heartbeat from the moment he announced.

01:18:03.000 They took it away off the table.

01:18:05.000 Perfect time to attack.

01:18:06.000 Greatest asset of the enemy.

01:18:08.000 When that is gone, in all military-type technology booklets, if you read military strategy, of which I do, art of war, when the greatest asset of the enemy gets removed from the equation, that's when you attack.

01:18:19.000 It could be because of a hurricane, a storm, supply chain disruption, whatever it is, that's when you go for the jugular, right there.

01:18:25.000 That's what they've done.

01:18:27.000 Donald Trump is not able to communicate with his base.

01:18:29.000 He can't monopolize the news cycle.

01:18:30.000 Instead, he has left the social media communication.

01:18:32.000 He's finally getting his rallies back, thank goodness.

01:18:34.000 That's why we felt like we're on defense, right?

01:18:37.000 It's felt like we've been in this perpetual retreat for months.

01:18:39.000 Like everywhere I turn, there's another leftist politician.

01:18:42.000 They're abolishing the police.

01:18:43.000 Like, oh, great.

01:18:44.000 They just took cops off TV.

01:18:45.000 Oh, okay.

01:18:46.000 We can't go to church.

01:18:47.000 Couldn't go to church on Easter. 0.99

01:18:49.000 Marijuana shops remain open. 0.96

01:18:50.000 Oh, what do you know?

01:18:51.000 The Blasio is defunding the entire New York police department, basically.

01:18:54.000 Mayor Eric Garcetti, 100 million outside of police.

01:18:56.000 It's like, what is going on?

01:18:58.000 It's like this, because the left is in record aggressive offensive mode, and we're on defense.

01:19:03.000 The reason this is happening is because we're not actually pushing back. 0.99

01:19:07.000 They're actual cowards.

01:19:08.000 Do you notice the left was so scrambled for so long because we were actually pushing them backwards? 0.98

01:19:13.000 We were confirming justices.

01:19:15.000 We were putting forth Kavanaugh.

01:19:17.000 We were putting forth Gorsuch.

01:19:18.000 We were passing tax reform.

01:19:20.000 We were building the wall.

01:19:21.000 We moved the embassy and we had them so scattered and we had them so distracted for three and a half years that the left could not focus on a singular issue.

01:19:31.000 That they didn't have us literally locked down in the homes and ready for revolution.

01:19:34.000 Instead, they were like, my gosh, the Iranian thing is totally screwed up. 0.98

01:19:38.000 Like the Israeli thing is screwed up. 0.99

01:19:40.000 The southern border is a total catastrophe. 1.00

01:19:42.000 China doesn't get me started there.

01:19:44.000 The economy's on fire.

01:19:46.000 Stock market's record high.

01:19:47.000 They didn't have enough activists to go get in the streets over every single one of these things.

01:19:51.000 Like, wait, do we go protest the Israeli embassy or like the Iranian embassy or do we go outside of the White House?

01:19:57.000 But what made the ingredients for this is they literally shut everything down.

01:20:01.000 They shut down the American conversation on a singular topic of the Chinese coronavirus.

01:20:06.000 We were kind of talking about China, but that issue was kind of difficult for people to wrap their heads around. 0.95

01:20:10.000 And finally, when public opinion was finally turning around the menace of China, this awful incident happens. 0.96

01:20:17.000 Awful incident with the prior Ahmad Arbery incident, which is also unspeakable. 0.95

01:20:22.000 But that was not police brutality.

01:20:24.000 Let's just be clear.

01:20:25.000 Right?

01:20:26.000 That guy's not a police officer.

01:20:28.000 He might have been formerly in law enforcement, but he was not a badged and credentialed police officer.

01:20:32.000 He sure is.

01:20:32.000 Heck, didn't act like one.

01:20:34.000 The Black Lives Matter then saw their movement, their moment.

01:20:36.000 They said, that's it.

01:20:37.000 Full court pressed.

01:20:38.000 10 out of 10.

01:20:39.000 The Jets, we are doing our TED Offensive right now.

01:20:43.000 And we, as conservatives, were so unbelievably unprepared.

01:20:48.000 I have a note.

01:20:50.000 I could show it to you in the other room where I said, I literally circled five times George Floyd because I saw it.

01:20:58.000 As soon as I saw this thing metastasizing, I'm like, oh my gosh, they have every ingredient they need.

01:21:05.000 People are bored.

01:21:06.000 People are looking for purpose.

01:21:08.000 Like, the media is looking for a great pivot because the economy's coming back and reopening.

01:21:12.000 And you see all this come together.

01:21:14.000 And so we're on defense.

01:21:16.000 That's the bad news.

01:21:17.000 So we got to stop.

01:21:18.000 We got to re, we kind of got to, we kind of have to rearm ourselves in military terms, right?

01:21:23.000 We've already been retreating and we have to launch counteroffensives. 0.64

01:21:26.000 So if I'm Trump, I'd sign every freaking executive order I have that will make them so distracted.

01:21:30.000 I'd pardon Roger Stone. 0.86

01:21:32.000 I'd pardon Lieutenant General Michael Flynn.

01:21:34.000 I'd move the embassy again to Jerusalem just to tick them off. 1.00

01:21:36.000 I would defund the Iranians again. 1.00

01:21:38.000 I'd slap sanctions on China. 1.00

01:21:39.000 I'd declare five emergency declarations on the southern border.

01:21:43.000 I'd say, I'm going to pack the court.

01:21:44.000 I'd put somebody.

01:21:45.000 I'm being somewhat facetious here, but you got to start launching fires here because it's not going in a good direction.

01:21:51.000 Because they got America hyper-focused on a lie.

01:21:54.000 And lies are the best instruments of the left.

01:21:57.000 And they repeat that lie.

01:21:58.000 Here's the good news, though. 0.66

01:21:59.000 I have right here the Rules for Radicals by Saul Linsky, and they follow this thing to a T, but they're not following it right now. 0.57

01:22:05.000 Rule number eight, keep the pressure on.

01:22:06.000 Boy, are they following that, right, Benny?

01:22:08.000 Rule number five: ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

01:22:12.000 They use that against Trump.

01:22:13.000 They try to every single day.

01:22:14.000 Number 13, they followed this rule better.

01:22:16.000 And those that don't know Rules for Radicals, it is the book written by Saul Linsky, who this is the playbook of the left.

01:22:22.000 You want to know what the left is going to do before they do it?

01:22:24.000 Know the playbook of the left.

01:22:26.000 He literally wrote the dedication of this book to Lucifer, the first rebel and fallen angel.

01:22:30.000 Number 13, they're following this like the gospel.

01:22:33.000 Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it.

01:22:37.000 My goodness, are they following that?

01:22:38.000 Are they following that, Benny?

01:22:39.000 I mean, like, unbelievable.

01:22:41.000 Are they following that?

01:22:42.000 And the reason they're following, like, the police officers, they found it.

01:22:45.000 Now, where they are failing, though, and why they're going to fail is they're violating one of their rules.

01:22:50.000 You know which one it is?

01:22:54.000 I don't have it memorized like that.

01:22:55.000 Number two.

01:23:00.000 Yeah, never go outside the expertise of your people.

01:23:02.000 Do you see that interview on CNN with the Minnesota?

01:23:07.000 That's why they're violating their own Alinsky rules.

01:23:10.000 Tell our audience.

01:23:11.000 So you have the chairwoman. of the Minneapolis City Council, and she is going on CNN and being asked by Allison Camerada a very rational and completely justified question, which is what happens when a criminal breaks into my home and I, a woman, am worried inside of my house?

01:23:34.000 Who do I call?

01:23:36.000 And the person who is pushing this, the woman who is now the face of the defund the police movement, looks into the camera and says very directly, you're privileged for not wanting to have your children raped, killed, for yourself to be murdered horrifically. 0.91

01:24:00.000 You're privileged. 0.75

01:24:01.000 This comes from a place of privilege.

01:24:02.000 If a monster broke into your house who is ready to do unspeakable evil to you and your family, you need to check your privilege and you sit back and let that monster do that thing.

01:24:15.000 Even if it ends in your death.

01:24:17.000 Fighting your privilege is more valuable than your life.

01:24:22.000 She didn't say precisely that, but anyone who watched knows that is exactly the subtext.

01:24:28.000 The subtext was, you shouldn't call the cops because calling the cops is racist.

01:24:35.000 And there you have the crystallization of this number two rule, which is you shouldn't go outside of your own experience.

01:24:46.000 They're not ready to answer the question, should we exactly find it?

01:24:50.000 Instead of staying disciplined on police brutality and a small gradual march towards abolition of police, they overplayed their hands.

01:24:56.000 They sent some numbskull on CNN who basically invalidates their entire movement.

01:25:01.000 Anyone with a functioning cognitive capacity says, I don't know about that.

01:25:05.000 So now, here's the other reason why they are violating one of Alinsky's rules.

01:25:09.000 And it's not one of these 13, but it's something he wrote about a lot.

01:25:11.000 Sawinsky said a true radical is not someone who goes in the streets and bashes windows and burns police cars.

01:25:18.000 Alinsky wrote extensively against this sort of activism.

01:25:23.000 He thought it was reprehensible.

01:25:24.000 He thought it was self-defeating.

01:25:26.000 He thought it turned public opinion against socialist communist aims and goals and objectives.

01:25:31.000 Instead, Solinsky said a true radical slicks back his hair, wears a three-piece suit, goes to work every single day, never revealing who he really is, but methodically and assuredly goes towards his accomplished goal.

01:25:48.000 That a true radical for him is one that's disciplined.

01:25:51.000 A radical for him is like Barack Obama, ultimate Alinskyite.

01:25:55.000 Barack Obama is the absolute embodiment of Solinsky.

01:26:00.000 Bernie Sanders is not.

01:26:01.000 Bernie Sanders supports the arson.

01:26:03.000 Bernie Sanders says the most outrageous things.

01:26:05.000 Saul Linsky also talked about in order for a radical to be successful, you have to embrace the symbology of the country you're trying to take over.

01:26:13.000 Embrace the flag.

01:26:15.000 Wear the flag.

01:26:16.000 Talk good things about the flag.

01:26:18.000 Say great things about the history of the country.

01:26:20.000 Barack Obama, there's only blue states and red states, but we're all the United States of America.

01:26:26.000 You know how you said that?

01:26:27.000 It was Bill Clinton, but yeah.

01:26:30.000 You know, that's a little better.

01:26:32.000 I did have a little kind of a blend of the Clinton at the end.

01:26:35.000 The point being is that Barack Obama was the perfect Alinskyite.

01:26:38.000 They're disobeying their own rules.

01:26:40.000 And here's a very interesting historical observation.

01:26:43.000 This is the first communist movement in the history of the world that's trying to take over a country while saying they hate that country.

01:26:49.000 Right.

01:26:50.000 Typically, a communist movement, they are ostensibly pro-the nation they're trying to take over.

01:26:57.000 Fidel Castro took over Cuba by saying to the people of Cuba, the rulers here actually aren't Cuban.

01:27:03.000 I'm the pro-Cuban.

01:27:04.000 Lenin took over Russia by using the 12th century imagery of Russia.

01:27:09.000 The Vietnamese revolution, they said, we're actually the ethnic Vietnamese.

01:27:13.000 This communist Marxist revolution in our country is actually, they're saying, we hate the country, now give us power.

01:27:19.000 Like, what?

01:27:22.000 If they get wise and they actually end up truly embracing the symbology of America, we have a real problem.

01:27:28.000 The problem for them, not a problem for us, is they have such anti-American leaders that just foment rage against our country like Elon Omar.

01:27:36.000 I don't know how that pivot is going to happen.

01:27:38.000 I don't.

01:27:39.000 Like, Elon Omar says nothing but awful things about America.

01:27:44.000 Like, she might as well be someone that has been transplanted and put into the U.S. Congress and be like, can you just tell us what it, like, if you were not an American congresswoman and you were like, I don't know, working for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, what would you say?

01:28:01.000 Go.

01:28:01.000 Like, that was basically her, you know, marching orders.

01:28:05.000 If you were trying to do that, that's her.

01:28:07.000 It's hard to convince the working class to go get behind that.

01:28:12.000 But what's dangerous is where Bernie used to be.

01:28:15.000 Where Bernie used to be when he was like, why don't we have strong borders?

01:28:20.000 To be an American means to be fair.

01:28:23.000 And that's why we shouldn't have billionaires.

01:28:24.000 Like that old kind of, let's just say narrative Bernie was really dangerous for us.

01:28:30.000 Like super dangerous.

01:28:31.000 You understand what I'm saying?

01:28:33.000 When he was talking about the baseline of the country is actually most compatible with him, that the history is actually harmonic with his ridiculously radical ideas.

01:28:44.000 Instead, the AOC and the Iana Presley's, they can't, they have no discipline.

01:28:48.000 And there's like the history of our country is incompatible with our ideas.

01:28:52.000 And people are like, well, come on.

01:28:54.000 Like, I love this place.

01:28:55.000 Why would I want to vote for you, man?

01:28:57.000 And that's why the communists took power so quickly in Russia and in all these other countries, in Russia and in Italy.

01:29:05.000 That was more fascist, but in India for a short period of time, in Southeast Asia, Cambodia, and Laos and in Korea, because they convinced the people that they were the true instruments of the history of the country they were trying to take over.

01:29:18.000 Email us your questions, guys.

01:29:19.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:29:22.000 We'll take a couple questions here, Benny.

01:29:23.000 Is that okay?

01:29:24.000 Let's do it.

01:29:25.000 Hi, Benny.

01:29:26.000 What shows are you currently watching and what are you learning from them?

01:29:30.000 Carla from Missouri.

01:29:32.000 Maybe she's watching Ozark.

01:29:35.000 Is it good?

01:29:36.000 Ozark is terrific.

01:29:37.000 It's one of my favorite shows.

01:29:39.000 It's phenomenal.

01:29:41.000 Archetypically, it's amazing because the masculine archetype is played by the woman and the feminine archetype is played by the man.

01:29:48.000 It's absolutely terrific.

01:29:50.000 Ozark is a great modern depiction of the issues with suburbia, the issues of a kind of emaciated male.

01:30:00.000 I don't mean that physically, but I just mean that kind of what happens when a man tries to find his place by doing things that are borderline ethical.

01:30:09.000 And it's terrific.

01:30:11.000 It's about a journey of passage for the young individuals in the story.

01:30:16.000 It's terrific.

01:30:18.000 Archetypically, it is to a T.

01:30:19.000 It's phenomenal.

01:30:22.000 So what are you watching, Benny?

01:30:23.000 So to answer your question, other than the required viewing of Tucker Carlson tonight in our household, an absolutely required viewing, specifically right now, he's just hitting his stride.

01:30:41.000 And one of the last honest and courageous news anchors out there.

01:30:46.000 We follow that.

01:30:48.000 We follow that by having the office come on.

01:30:56.000 Because one, the office is always a good reminder of a simpler time in America where you could still make these style jokes.

01:31:06.000 We could still make politically incorrect jokes and laugh at the way normal human beings.

01:31:11.000 Can you talk about the utility of comedy?

01:31:13.000 Because it's dying.

01:31:15.000 Yeah, it's dying.

01:31:17.000 Well, there's something called I mean, there's something called anti-comedy, right?

01:31:22.000 Which is like comedy for the sake of not being funny, comedy for the sake of social change.

01:31:28.000 And I mean, it's killing if you're going to go all the way back to the beginning of our conversation.

01:31:35.000 Like, these are pressure relievers.

01:31:37.000 These let us all know that we're one as a people.

01:31:40.000 When we can all get together and laugh at a Dave Chappelle or Ricky Gervais, when we can get together and laugh at our politicians.

01:31:48.000 It was something very special when SNL used to be funny and make fun of Democrats and make fun of leftists.

01:31:54.000 And they skewed Al Gore.

01:31:57.000 This was when I was very young, but Al Gore's depiction on SNL was just hysterical and damaging to him.

01:32:04.000 It was ridiculed.

01:32:05.000 Let's go a level deeper. 0.83

01:32:06.000 Soviets and all the totalitarians banned comedy and all this. 0.68

01:32:10.000 Do you know why they banned comedy? 0.72

01:32:12.000 You have good answers to it, but answer first and then I'll tell you why deeper.

01:32:16.000 Well, since you already know the answer, why don't you tell me?

01:32:18.000 Good comedy is truth.

01:32:21.000 So think about what is actually funny.

01:32:24.000 Things that you have seen or encountered in the real world that resonate with you, that are portrayed in a way that deeply harmonize with personal health experience. 0.55

01:32:35.000 For example, Michael Scott in the office, where he says, my favorite quote from Abraham Lincoln is: if you are a racist, I will attack you with the North.

01:32:48.000 And that is the motto that I bring into the office every single day.

01:32:53.000 And so it's such an outrageous thing, right?

01:32:56.000 It's rooted in the truth of this guy obviously is misapplying a quote, but we all know somebody like that.

01:33:06.000 Seinfeld, the greatest example of deeply held truth is why Seinfeld succeeded, the greatest television show in American history.

01:33:12.000 Show about nothing, but it's a show about touched everything.

01:33:14.000 Show about labeling salsa versus seltzer.

01:33:18.000 A show of a black and white cookie.

01:33:19.000 A show of a soup Nazi.

01:33:21.000 A show of Elaine trying to find her place as a single woman in New York City and George, who plays the jester archetype and the perpetual doomed to failure archetype better than anyone in television that I could possibly imagine. 0.80

01:33:39.000 And so why do things resonate?

01:33:42.000 What is comedy?

01:33:43.000 What is comedy?

01:33:44.000 It's truth.

01:33:46.000 Dave Chappelle's funny because he says something that you're not allowed to say that you know is pretty true.

01:33:55.000 That's why the left hates comedy.

01:33:58.000 They hate comedy because they hate truth.

01:34:00.000 That's why all the late night talk shows, no one laughs.

01:34:03.000 They just clap in agreement because it's basically MSNBC with an orchestra next to you with better looking people.

01:34:11.000 It's basically what Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel and Steve Colbert.

01:34:16.000 And Jimmy Fallon's less of a, he's actually pretty good.

01:34:19.000 He's actually less on that continuum.

01:34:22.000 But Kimmel, oh my gosh.

01:34:25.000 The worst.

01:34:26.000 The left hates comedy because the left hates truth.

01:34:28.000 Because you know why?

01:34:29.000 They know that comedy one time might be directed towards them.

01:34:33.000 Right.

01:34:34.000 This is why after Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globe skewed Hollywood in one of the most legendary comedic routines ever heard, that they got rid of the host of the Oscars.

01:34:45.000 They just said, we're not going to have a host.

01:34:47.000 They couldn't take the fact that one man got up there and said what all of the rest of America was thinking.

01:34:55.000 And this hurt their feelings so badly to be called friends of Jeffrey Epstein and to be told that their opinions don't matter.

01:35:03.000 This hurt their feelings so badly, the leftists of Hollywood, that they banned hosts.

01:35:06.000 Well, and so the left also, and more so than the right, is they have no capacity for self-deprecation.

01:35:13.000 Correct.

01:35:14.000 Best comedy is self-deprecation.

01:35:16.000 Correct.

01:35:16.000 That's why Dave Chappelle making semi-true statements about his upbringing resonate terrific.

01:35:22.000 That's why Jerry Seinfeld humorized the experience of living on the Upper East Side or the Upper West Side as a single Jewish man in New York City. 0.80

01:35:32.000 And he gave levity to it because it was self-deprecating. 0.83

01:35:36.000 He didn't take himself so seriously.

01:35:38.000 Well, the left takes themselves really seriously.

01:35:41.000 Like phenomenally seriously.

01:35:44.000 This is why the first thing that happens.

01:35:45.000 Because they think of themselves as gods.

01:35:47.000 You ban free speech in communist societies.

01:35:49.000 You ban ridicule.

01:35:51.000 But yeah, you ban you ban comedic expression.

01:35:54.000 You can't post a photo of Winnie the Pooh in China.

01:35:57.000 Because it looks too much like Xi Jinping.

01:36:01.000 Because they have no, they have no...

01:36:03.000 Look, the left is really a movement of people that have not fully matured into civil society.

01:36:10.000 What do you do if you can't take a joke?

01:36:13.000 You get upset and you throw your arms up.

01:36:15.000 Yeah, that's called a nine-year-old.

01:36:16.000 Yeah, you know fun at a party.

01:36:17.000 No.

01:36:18.000 That's the left.

01:36:18.000 I can tell you that.

01:36:19.000 Yeah, there's always that guy at a party who you can't make a joke around.

01:36:23.000 Right.

01:36:24.000 Who's going to check your privilege?

01:36:26.000 And so...

01:36:26.000 There's an entire South Park season on it.

01:36:28.000 But your South Park's going to be canceled soon.

01:36:30.000 Yeah.

01:36:31.000 It'll be by.

01:36:32.000 PC, bro.

01:36:32.000 Correct.

01:36:33.000 PC, police.

01:36:34.000 And so, but comedy is one of the things that we as human beings have used as a unifying concept to allow us to move on from some of the most unspeakable horrors.

01:36:46.000 That's correct.

01:36:47.000 Comedy goes all the way back to...

01:36:50.000 We have evidence of comedy in 800 BC Greece.

01:36:55.000 That's really where comedy first started in open-air venues.

01:36:59.000 The word escapes me.

01:37:01.000 There's a very specific word for it. 0.66

01:37:02.000 It's a pretty easy word to remember.

01:37:04.000 But what they call auditorium, it's not auditoriums, but it's an outdoor auditorium.

01:37:04.000 I can't remember.

01:37:08.000 Open-air auditoriums where the comics, if you will, would come and make fun of local events happening in Athens or in Sparta.

01:37:19.000 And it was interesting because the acts or the plays would only happen once.

01:37:24.000 And they would live as folklore.

01:37:26.000 And the idea of self-deprecation and the idea of comedy actually led to the classics.

01:37:32.000 Because comedy required thinking.

01:37:34.000 I actually believe the smartest people in the world are those that are able to produce humor.

01:37:39.000 Good humor.

01:37:41.000 Sophisticated humor.

01:37:42.000 It takes wit.

01:37:43.000 It takes worldliness.

01:37:43.000 It takes depth.

01:37:44.000 It takes a vocabulary.

01:37:46.000 That humor is actually the highest level of the competence hierarchy.

01:37:50.000 I really believe that.

01:37:51.000 That your ability to make without F words and all that.

01:37:55.000 I actually don't, I don't find, that's why Jerry Seinfeld is so great, is he doesn't swear.

01:37:59.000 Because I think some of these comics, like they use the, you know, they swear every other word.

01:38:03.000 It's so exhausting, right?

01:38:05.000 I just, and some of them can be simultaneously funny without the swearing, right?

01:38:08.000 And I think maybe it adds to the abrasiveness of it.

01:38:13.000 I don't really find much merit, that argument.

01:38:15.000 But in order to think, I should say, in order to make comedy, you must think.

01:38:21.000 And once you have a society that does that for a couple hundred years, then all of a sudden you get a Socrates.

01:38:25.000 You get a Plato.

01:38:26.000 You get an Aristotle.

01:38:28.000 You get the classics.

01:38:29.000 And then Aristotle trained Alexander the Great.

01:38:31.000 Now, I'm not saying comedy was the only reason for that.

01:38:33.000 That would be foolish for me to say.

01:38:34.000 There are other reasons, some of it being nutritional reasons.

01:38:37.000 The Greeks actually figured out the agrarian-based lifestyle.

01:38:40.000 They had a shipping lanes a lot better.

01:38:41.000 They were able to be more cultured.

01:38:42.000 They heard other ideas more.

01:38:44.000 They kind of had like best practices.

01:38:45.000 Other reasons why the Greeks were able to have this breakthrough intellectually when they did post-Peloponnesian War and the Greek Civil War that preceded it.

01:38:54.000 But you can't discount the comedy.

01:38:56.000 You can't.

01:38:57.000 That once you get rid of that, you get rid of so much.

01:39:02.000 You get rid of people's capacity to interact with each other.

01:39:05.000 You get rid of people's ability to be able to take a joke. 0.72

01:39:08.000 You know what, Stalin?

01:39:09.000 You know why he couldn't take a joke?

01:39:11.000 Because he thought of himself as a god.

01:39:12.000 You know what happened if he made it in front of Stalin?

01:39:14.000 Death camp for you.

01:39:17.000 I think there are more people in America who would know the name Juicy Smollier.

01:39:23.000 Amphitheater is what I was thinking of.

01:39:24.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

01:39:24.000 Juicy Smollier than Jesse Smollett. 1.00

01:39:27.000 Let's talk about Jesse Smollett.

01:39:30.000 Can you talk about Jesse Smollett?

01:39:31.000 Yes, of course.

01:39:33.000 Jesse Smollett is seeing his vision happen right now.

01:39:37.000 This is what Jesse Smollett wanted.

01:39:39.000 See, Jesse Smollett made up an entire fabrication.

01:39:43.000 Two MAGA hat-wearing people in negative 10-degree weather come with a thin rope to try to lynch him while he's going to Subway and says something awful to him and then screams, this is MAGA country and storms off.

01:39:54.000 What did Jesse Smollett want out of that?

01:39:58.000 Jesse Smollett wanted a race conflict in America.

01:40:02.000 And he wanted to be the face of it.

01:40:05.000 He wanted to be the martyr that could speak on cable television against how the Trump movement was creating racist lynchings in the streets of Chicago.

01:40:15.000 Of course, it was all made up.

01:40:16.000 He paid for it.

01:40:17.000 By the way, if you're going to fake a hate crime, don't use a cashier's check.

01:40:21.000 Good best practices. 1.00

01:40:22.000 If you're going to fake a hate crime, probably don't hire two Nigerian brothers. 1.00

01:40:26.000 Like, just in the how-to manual of how to start a race war, that should probably be there. 0.99

01:40:33.000 But now, Jesse Smollett, who's a criminal, indicted.

01:40:37.000 I think he's indicted, right?

01:40:38.000 Yeah, he was indicted.

01:40:39.000 Then he wasn't indicted.

01:40:39.000 He was not indicted.

01:40:40.000 Kim Fox, awful person.

01:40:42.000 But Justice Smollett, whatever, Smollett, Smollett, this was his vision.

01:40:47.000 He wanted this.

01:40:49.000 He wanted people marching in the streets over the alleged lynching of Jussie Smollett.

01:40:55.000 Never happened.

01:40:56.000 No decent Trump supporter in the world would do something like that.

01:41:00.000 It's not possible.

01:41:02.000 I shouldn't say it's not possible.

01:41:04.000 I'll abbreviate that.

01:41:05.000 It's not likely.

01:41:06.000 I have to be very specific for Media Matters watching.

01:41:13.000 Well, you are from MAGA country.

01:41:14.000 You are from Chicago, so no.

01:41:16.000 I've never seen anyone wear a MAGA hat in my life in downtown Chicago, let alone at 2 o'clock in the morning when a guy's going in negative 10-degree weather to get Subway.

01:41:25.000 By the way, why don't you just use Uber Eats or Postmates?

01:41:29.000 You're literally worth millions of dollars, and you're going to go retrieve the Subway at negative 10-degree weather.

01:41:35.000 And with anyone with your net worth, if you're going to eat Subway, I guess there's nothing necessarily wrong with that.

01:41:40.000 It's just awfully questionable.

01:41:42.000 He held on to the sandwich, though.

01:41:44.000 No, my favorite part of the entire thing is when you watch the video.

01:41:47.000 It's the great.

01:41:48.000 And by the way, the media doesn't cover it at all because the media is an activist media.

01:41:51.000 You go watch the video of when the cops come in because they have body camps.

01:41:54.000 They come in to go see Jesse Smollett and he's crying.

01:41:57.000 This is the worst thing that's ever happened to me.

01:41:59.000 They tried to kill me.

01:42:00.000 The first thing the cop says, first thing, brilliant instinct.

01:42:02.000 I love our law enforcement.

01:42:03.000 Why do you still have the rope on?

01:42:07.000 You know, you could take that off, right?

01:42:09.000 It's like, you're right.

01:42:10.000 You're right.

01:42:10.000 And he takes the rope off.

01:42:12.000 It's just perfect.

01:42:13.000 It's like, that's the.

01:42:14.000 Why do you still have the rope-on if this happened to you?

01:42:18.000 Was that in another lifetime?

01:42:20.000 That was only like two, that was only like a year ago, like a year and a half.

01:42:23.000 It was a different America.

01:42:24.000 That was a year and a half ago.

01:42:25.000 But he's still, he's, he's.

01:42:27.000 Do you remember the whistleblower?

01:42:28.000 Do you remember Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vinman?

01:42:32.000 Man, Donald Trump's impeachment.

01:42:35.000 Remember impeachment?

01:42:36.000 That was this calendar year.

01:42:39.000 What timeline are we living in?

01:42:40.000 We're living in a timeline of a part of American society, the left, that understands that Donald Trump actually might restore the country.

01:42:49.000 That Donald Trump might actually sent that back a century.

01:42:51.000 So if you're talking about scorched earth, we are going to empty our chamber of what we can do to destroy our country.

01:42:59.000 Boy, have we experienced it.

01:43:01.000 My goodness.

01:43:02.000 Let's recap.

01:43:03.000 Just for those of you watching at home, we impeached a president over a singular phone call of which he did nothing wrong.

01:43:08.000 That's number one.

01:43:09.000 We shut down American society and brought our stock market down 40% from record near 30,000 to 18,000.

01:43:16.000 41 million people out of work, celebrated by Democrats.

01:43:19.000 We created $6 trillion out of thin air.

01:43:22.000 We passed the largest couple spending bills in the history of modern society.

01:43:28.000 Oh, and by the way, now we're marching in the streets deciding to disband our police and calling Trump the worst person ever because he had nothing to do with the singular awful killing of an unarmed black man in Minneapolis.

01:43:39.000 Don't forget spying on a presidential campaign.

01:43:42.000 I don't know if that happened this year, but we're still revealing it.

01:43:44.000 This is just June, by the way, Benny.

01:43:46.000 Oh, you're talking 2020.

01:43:46.000 We're in June.

01:43:48.000 You're talking about this calendar year.

01:43:50.000 Oh, okay.

01:43:51.000 And we still have no sports, and March Madness got canceled.

01:43:54.000 At least we have the Super Bowl. 0.98

01:44:00.000 Oh, yeah, and we also forgot we almost got World War III with Iran in January. 1.00

01:44:03.000 Yes. 1.00

01:44:04.000 Remember, that was the big thing.

01:44:05.000 Yes, correct.

01:44:06.000 Trump almost didn't get us in a war with Iran.

01:44:08.000 What's the question they got for me, Benny?

01:44:12.000 Charlie, what are the two historical figures you would love to see compete in a boxing match?

01:44:18.000 I've answered this.

01:44:19.000 I said Joseph Stalin and Buster Douglas.

01:44:24.000 Or George Foreman.

01:44:26.000 How about Conor McGregor?

01:44:27.000 Okay.

01:44:28.000 Joseph Stalin and Conor McGregor.

01:44:30.000 I'd love to see Conor McGregor come now out of retirement and give him a good left hook right across the jaw.

01:44:34.000 Yes. 0.81

01:44:35.000 I think that would be small price to pay for the 60 million people that he slaughtered.

01:44:42.000 That would be very fun to watch.

01:44:43.000 What two people do you want to see in a boxing match?

01:44:45.000 I know this is going to be cheap, but I would really love to see Donald Trump and Joseph Biden box.

01:44:50.000 Because Joe Biden talks really big game.

01:44:52.000 He's always saying he's going to take him out back.

01:44:55.000 I would take him out back and I'd box his ears.

01:44:58.000 I think Trump, I think he's got like a fuse that if you put him in a ring like that, I think that there would be a medic call to really push.

01:45:05.000 And it wouldn't be for Donald J. Trump.

01:45:08.000 No.

01:45:09.000 And we're not inciting violence, and we're not glorifying violence.

01:45:12.000 No, but Joseph Biden does regularly say that he would take Trump out back.

01:45:18.000 He's the kind of guy that I'd take out back and I'd give him a knuckle sandwich and Corn Pop would be there to help me.

01:45:23.000 And Corn Pop was rolling up my leg and I like kids in my lap. 0.53

01:45:27.000 You don't need dogface pony soldier. 0.92

01:45:29.000 Learned about cockroaches. 1.00

01:45:31.000 And if you even talk with a slight Indian accent, you can't even walk into a 7-Eleven. 1.00

01:45:39.000 Black men, they're super predators. 1.00

01:45:40.000 These are all direct quotes from Joseph Biden. 1.00

01:45:43.000 Next question. 1.00

01:45:44.000 You ain't black.

01:45:47.000 Can you debunk the idea that these current race riots are no different than the Boston Tea Party? 0.99

01:45:54.000 Yeah, happily. 0.96

01:45:55.000 I mean, the Boston Tea Party was an act of military, pseudo-military aggression and classifying King George and what was then the English Empire as an enemy of the state.

01:46:11.000 So if these arsonists and individuals are now saying that they're doing this because the United States government is an enemy of the state, okay, I didn't catch that memo.

01:46:21.000 If that's the case, then you absolutely are domestic terrorists and you'll all be arrested.

01:46:25.000 And first of all, secondly, the American Revolution was a righteous rebellion using every instrument that they knew possible, dumping tea into the Boston Tea Party, Lexington Concord in 74, the signing of the Declaration in 76, absolute dissolving of ties. 0.74

01:46:40.000 If that's what Antifa or the Black Lives Matter believes, then go sign the Declaration and put your names on it like our founders did. 0.81

01:46:47.000 Go tell us.

01:46:48.000 Because if you're deciding that all of a sudden you want to create a civil war, which is what the implication of the question is, by the way, when Andrew Cuomo says, well, this is how change sometimes happens.

01:46:56.000 No, no, no.

01:46:56.000 That's how civil war happens.

01:46:58.000 Okay, like let's be perfectly clear.

01:46:59.000 Okay.

01:47:00.000 You know how change happens?

01:47:01.000 Peacefully marching through the streets in Birmingham like Martin Luther King.

01:47:04.000 Martin Luther King never said he was not an American.

01:47:07.000 Martin Luther King never said he's going to dissolve ties with the United States government.

01:47:10.000 Malcolm X never even said that.

01:47:12.000 Malcolm X was on the extreme of the violent retaliation continuum, who said you return a fist with a fist and you return eye for an eye.

01:47:19.000 Malcolm X was very much the inspiration of the Black Power movement and the Black Panther movement.

01:47:23.000 Martin Luther King had a completely different philosophy of disobedience, but neither said for a second that they're going to have an official petition to try to dissolve ties with the United States government.

01:47:33.000 If that's the case of the Democrat Party, if that's the, like, okay, you go sign your declaration and make sure that you sign your John Hancock really big, because then you're basically going to give license to the Department of Justice to go arrest you.

01:47:45.000 They won't because they're cowards, but maybe that's what they believe.

01:47:48.000 It'd be nice to just get a document that stated what they believe.

01:47:54.000 It'd be really nice to have that.

01:47:55.000 On the Black Lives Matter website, there's three big things that people have to realize. 0.99

01:47:58.000 Number one, it is to destroy the Western prescribed nuclear family, nuclear family. 0.97

01:48:04.000 They want to destroy it.

01:48:04.000 Number two, they want to abolish prisons and they want to abolish the police.

01:48:08.000 Is this a mainstream movement?

01:48:09.000 This is where corporate America is funding, by the way, just so we understand.

01:48:12.000 The biggest companies in the country, Airbnb, Nike, IBM, they're getting millions of dollars to that organization on their website.

01:48:19.000 That's now been platformed by mainstream corporate America.

01:48:24.000 It's terrifying.

01:48:25.000 We'll take a couple more questions.

01:48:26.000 You guys can email us, freedom at charliekirk.com, and please type in Charlie Kirk show to your podcast provider and hit subscribe.

01:48:32.000 Benny, what's the next question?

01:48:34.000 So, Charlie, do you see a way for America to come together after all of this?

01:48:42.000 Or are we permanently divided?

01:48:44.000 It's a great question.

01:48:45.000 People say, well, Charlie, when can we all come together?

01:48:47.000 And I say, that's an admirable goal.

01:48:49.000 I wish it.

01:48:50.000 I hope for it.

01:48:50.000 I'd love to all live in peace and harmony and be able to march for a better world tomorrow.

01:48:58.000 But under what alleged future are you saying that the left will somehow cease to exist?

01:49:06.000 And so I'm not arguing for perpetual conflict or whatever you want to call that we're in right now because I don't even know what we're divided over because we all agree that George Floyd was awful.

01:49:16.000 I guess we're divided over whether the country should be destroyed or not.

01:49:19.000 I guess we're divided over whether we should burn down our cities.

01:49:22.000 No one's divided over George Floyd.

01:49:24.000 Like no one is divided over this.

01:49:26.000 We all freaking literally agree, okay?

01:49:29.000 America's divided.

01:49:30.000 No, actually, we're not.

01:49:32.000 I mean, if the division is whether or not we should destroy Americans in our cities, if the division is whether or not we should abolish police, okay, I'll agree with you.

01:49:40.000 Like, got it.

01:49:40.000 We're divided.

01:49:41.000 If there's a division over George Floyd, no.

01:49:44.000 In fact, Donald Trump had the Department of Justice on there in 72 hours or less and pressed charges against Derek Chobin.

01:49:50.000 I don't understand who's divided over this.

01:49:52.000 There's no like two sides of the story.

01:49:54.000 I've never understood that either because it does seem to be that this is the most agreeable issue in America's history.

01:50:00.000 But they turned it.

01:50:00.000 Yes.

01:50:01.000 And I think that horrified them more than anything.

01:50:03.000 They pivoted, right?

01:50:04.000 So they pivoted from something that is widely agreeable to something that is incorporate agreeable and emotional, right?

01:50:11.000 Emotive pathological with it.

01:50:13.000 And I don't mean pathological in a bad sense in this way.

01:50:15.000 I just mean the pathos versus the ethos and the logos. 0.90

01:50:18.000 And then they immediately pivoted all that emotion into something that is tangential, but totally separate, which is America's a racist country and cops are awful.

01:50:27.000 And people are like, oh, yeah, of course, because the George Floyd video is awful.

01:50:31.000 So that's what we're not focusing on.

01:50:32.000 Like, hold on a second.

01:50:33.000 I thought you were upset about this.

01:50:35.000 Like, we agree on this, like, this little unit of agreement.

01:50:38.000 Can we just stay here and prosecute and have a proper remembrance and all this?

01:50:43.000 Totally on board for that.

01:50:44.000 Not discounting that.

01:50:45.000 But now all of a sudden they're like, because of this, then this.

01:50:48.000 That is logically incompatible.

01:50:51.000 And, but it's very intentional design.

01:50:51.000 Okay?

01:50:54.000 It's incredibly intentional.

01:50:55.000 It's people that know how to create mass movements.

01:50:57.000 It's people that know how to manipulate media.

01:50:59.000 It's people that think very multi-dimensional in how to use buzzwords and deploy tactics and get people in the streets.

01:51:06.000 I mean, we're not dealing with simpletons here.

01:51:08.000 I'm talking about the architects and the merchants of chaos.

01:51:10.000 Like, we're not dealing with people that are just raising signs and screaming at the top of their lungs.

01:51:14.000 We're dealing with very, very sophisticated individuals here that were able to get this done very, very quickly.

01:51:20.000 So are we going to be unified?

01:51:23.000 We'll be unified if the left ceases to be pathologically committed to the destruction of America.

01:51:30.000 So as long as they are in the country arguing at the levels that they're arguing and doing what they're doing, of which there's no evidence to show they're slowing down, I don't see a kumbaya America in my lifetime.

01:51:42.000 I don't.

01:51:42.000 Now, there's different volumes and different levels of that extreme that might exist.

01:51:47.000 But where it's headed right now, what are we going to be united over?

01:51:51.000 We can't even be united over the flag.

01:51:53.000 We can't be united over police.

01:51:54.000 July 4th is going to be like this massive point of controversy now.

01:51:58.000 It is.

01:51:59.000 I'm telling it right here, right now.

01:52:00.000 July 4th is going to be America's divided over how to best celebrate our country.

01:52:05.000 Like you're going to see that New York Times op-ed.

01:52:07.000 I guarantee it.

01:52:08.000 Like this July 4th, I'm sitting out for George Floyd or systemic racism.

01:52:13.000 I guarantee you.

01:52:13.000 You're going to see that.

01:52:15.000 You're going to see that.

01:52:17.000 What are we going to agree on?

01:52:18.000 Can't agree on God.

01:52:19.000 Can't agree on church.

01:52:20.000 Can't agree on family.

01:52:22.000 So what are we agreeing on?

01:52:23.000 Tell me.

01:52:25.000 You guys want to destroy football? 0.98

01:52:26.000 Destroy everything.

01:52:27.000 Like, what are we?

01:52:28.000 What is the unification here, man?

01:52:32.000 You can convince me of that.

01:52:33.000 Maybe we can bring the country together.

01:52:37.000 Tiger King?

01:52:38.000 Did we all agree?

01:52:38.000 Is that the last moment of action?

01:52:39.000 No, because some people even disagree.

01:52:41.000 Some people are like pro-Carol Baskin.

01:52:43.000 Yeah, those people. 0.97

01:52:44.000 That's the real enemy of America.

01:52:44.000 No, they agree.

01:52:46.000 Well, the pro-Karol Baskin people.

01:52:48.000 Sorry.

01:52:49.000 You know, the same people that are pro-Karol Baskin are the people that listen to Alyssa Milano's podcast.

01:52:56.000 Okay, let's just put it that way.

01:52:57.000 People that are pro-Karol Baskin are the people that stand outside of Whole Foods and they say meat is murder.

01:53:05.000 Okay.

01:53:06.000 She's a Karen.

01:53:07.000 She's a definite Karen.

01:53:08.000 Yes.

01:53:09.000 100%.

01:53:09.000 Yes.

01:53:11.000 All right.

01:53:11.000 Let's take one more question.

01:53:15.000 Benny, if you had to choose, would you rather be Yoda or Darth Vader?

01:53:19.000 No, Darth Vader.

01:53:21.000 You have a very dark side to you.

01:53:22.000 Yeah.

01:53:23.000 Darth Vader.

01:53:25.000 First off, the height thing, very important, right?

01:53:28.000 Like, it's tall.

01:53:29.000 But then also, there is no one more badass in the universe.

01:53:35.000 Oh, come on.

01:53:36.000 That's not totally true.

01:53:37.000 There's no one more badass.

01:53:39.000 But his moral character flawed.

01:53:44.000 The only character is archetypically very questionable.

01:53:48.000 Whoa.

01:53:48.000 The hero arc is not.

01:53:51.000 So the reverse hero arc is actually Darth Vader.

01:53:54.000 The real hero of the original trilogies is Darth Vader.

01:53:57.000 He kills the emperor.

01:53:58.000 He saves his son. 0.97

01:53:59.000 His son was dying.

01:54:00.000 He was dead.

01:54:01.000 Darth Vader is the one who made the tough decision.

01:54:03.000 Luke was always just a good old boy, a good boy at heart.

01:54:06.000 He's like a farm boy.

01:54:07.000 But Darth Vader is the abolition of an entire planet.

01:54:11.000 It was a peaceful protest.

01:54:13.000 Oh, yeah, is that right?

01:54:14.000 Yes.

01:54:16.000 Planet, I don't like. 0.99

01:54:17.000 Disappear you! 0.99

01:54:19.000 See, this whole like pro-Darth Vader community in Star Wars revisionist history is garbage. 0.99

01:54:24.000 Okay, a couple things. 0.95

01:54:26.000 I'll just state it very clearly.

01:54:27.000 I'll state it very clearly.

01:54:28.000 The actual hero's arc in the original trilogy is Darth Vader.

01:54:33.000 When you say heroes, you mean New Hope, Strikes Pack, not Last Jedi, what are they?

01:54:36.000 Return of the Jedi.

01:54:37.000 Right.

01:54:38.000 Who is the person who was beyond redemption who came back and legitimately saved the entire story?

01:54:46.000 Saved the entire Luke.

01:54:48.000 Luke was tempted by the dark side.

01:54:50.000 Luke had his moments of temptation to fall.

01:54:53.000 Luke is not a farm boy.

01:54:54.000 He was the hero's journey.

01:54:56.000 The hero's journey arc literally starts with innocence, call to action, meet your mentor, build your team, find out the great evil, realize it's really yourself, fight the evil within yourself, slay the dragon, return to innocence.

01:55:10.000 But he didn't slay the dragon.

01:55:11.000 In fact, he lost to the emperor, and he was dying, and Darth Vader is the one who decided to save his son's life.

01:55:17.000 The best argument is.

01:55:18.000 And there's this shot, the best shot in all of Star Wars is the Vader's helmet being illuminated by the lightning bolts coming out of the Emperor's hand.

01:55:29.000 And he's just looking, and he's looking back and forth, and he's making this moral decision.

01:55:33.000 The best argument you could make, and this is the one I would make on your behalf, is that Luke and Darth Vader are actually the same character.

01:55:42.000 That's why he said it's the reverse.

01:55:43.000 No, no, but the Skywalker archetype is actually the same, is that they're playing off each other, and they finally meet at the end.

01:55:49.000 Does that make sense?

01:55:50.000 That's the best argument, that Vader and Luke are actually the same character.

01:55:54.000 So I called it the reverse hero.

01:55:55.000 Father's son, basically.

01:55:56.000 That kind of start off as evil.

01:55:57.000 And Yoda is basically the Gandalf, right?

01:55:59.000 He's basically the sage mentor of which has premonitions and is able to see things ahead of time and offer the wisdom down to the hero to be able to instruct him to fight the great evil.

01:56:12.000 Also, I mean, this is such an easy question because in the movies that then have now come out, Disney version.

01:56:18.000 Yoda dies.

01:56:19.000 Well, right.

01:56:20.000 Yoda does not become better.

01:56:21.000 Yoda becomes worse in these movies.

01:56:23.000 I mean, he decays, basically.

01:56:25.000 Well, yes.

01:56:26.000 I mean, in Disney Star Wars and in the prequels.

01:56:29.000 What do you mean Disney Star Wars?

01:56:31.000 They were all Lucas' film, weren't they?

01:56:33.000 Well, so in the prequels, Yoda, I don't think, becomes better, even though we're seeing Phantom Menace, Clone Wars, and flipping around with the lightsaber.

01:56:41.000 I think that added anything to Yoda.

01:56:43.000 I believe that Darth Vader shockingly did become better.

01:56:47.000 I thought that was fan service, by the way.

01:56:49.000 In Rogue One.

01:56:50.000 I thought it was awesome.

01:56:51.000 Rogue One Awful.

01:56:52.000 I thought it was awful.

01:56:52.000 People like that one.

01:56:53.000 No, it was the only good 10 minutes of the film, but it was great.

01:56:56.000 What was the best 10 minutes?

01:56:58.000 When Vader starts...

01:57:00.000 Vader starts slaughtering the men trying to protect Princess Leia on the emergency on the ship that she's escaping from.

01:57:10.000 And he just ended up. 0.93

01:57:11.000 He just goes nuts. 0.68

01:57:12.000 And he just goes nuts.

01:57:13.000 But Rogue One ends where New Hope begins.

01:57:16.000 Yes.

01:57:16.000 Got it.

01:57:18.000 And it's kind of an extension of the story.

01:57:20.000 It was very cool.

01:57:21.000 I'm a big Star Wars fan.

01:57:23.000 I love it because these stories are thousands of years old.

01:57:25.000 The hero's journey, the sage mentor, the destruction of the great and total centralized power, which is the Death Star, and that archetypically plays itself out at the end of the New Hope, how evil always comes back.

01:57:35.000 You can never actually get rid of it.

01:57:37.000 There's no abolition of evil that it's going to come back.

01:57:40.000 That evil, even if you defeat it in the short term, that will rebound, that your existence is actually that struggle of good versus evil.

01:57:47.000 It's terrific.

01:57:48.000 In fact, if you want to talk about a series that embodies the great stories that built the West, Star Wars does it almost better than anything else.

01:57:55.000 Lord of the Rings probably does it the best.

01:57:57.000 Harry Potter is in that category, but Star Wars does it unbelievably well.

01:58:06.000 What is America in the Star Wars saga?

01:58:09.000 Where are we now?

01:58:10.000 What version of the world?

01:58:12.000 Let's subtract the social justice warrior Star Wars of recent memory.

01:58:14.000 Is that fair?

01:58:15.000 Which Star Wars movie are we now in?

01:58:17.000 Because I'm starting to think.

01:58:18.000 The Empire Strikes Back.

01:58:19.000 I'm starting to think that it's Clone Wars.

01:58:22.000 It's Clone Wars.

01:58:23.000 That's very optimistic of you.

01:58:25.000 The Clone Wars?

01:58:26.000 I think we're in the Empire Strikes Back.

01:58:27.000 It was just a mess.

01:58:28.000 So I think, hear me out here.

01:58:30.000 I think Donald Trump is Luke Skywalker.

01:58:34.000 I'm listening.

01:58:34.000 Okay.

01:58:35.000 Donald Trump is Luke Skywalker.

01:58:35.000 I'm listening.

01:58:37.000 All right.

01:58:37.000 Because of the hair, blonde hair.

01:58:39.000 Floppy.

01:58:41.000 The wisdom.

01:58:43.000 And...

01:58:44.000 Mark Hamill's going to be pissed when he's.

01:58:46.000 Oh, by the way, we're going to cut this up.

01:58:47.000 I'm going to tweet it at him.

01:58:48.000 It's going to be epic.

01:58:50.000 So Donald Trump is Luke Skywalker.

01:58:52.000 Unsuspecting hero comes from a different type, totally disconnected type background.

01:58:58.000 Now, it's not a perfect comparison, but it's pretty good.

01:59:02.000 Donald Trump enters in unexpectedly and with unbelievably distant odds up against everyone saying he can't do it.

01:59:02.000 Right?

01:59:14.000 He builds a team, right?

01:59:15.000 Han Solo.

01:59:16.000 Probably Mike.

01:59:17.000 That's probably not Mike Pence.

01:59:18.000 No.

01:59:19.000 Who would be Mike Pence?

01:59:20.000 Chewbacca, and you could fill in the rest.

01:59:23.000 He builds a team, but against all odds, he destroys the Death Star.

01:59:26.000 2016 election.

01:59:28.000 Chewbacca is definitely Sebastian Corka.

01:59:32.000 I sure.

01:59:34.000 Okay.

01:59:36.000 The destroys the Death Star, right?

01:59:41.000 And then at that moment, that's the 2016 election.

01:59:44.000 Boom.

01:59:45.000 Hillary Clinton obliterated. 1.00

01:59:48.000 Then the Empire strikes back.

01:59:49.000 Spying, impeachment, convictions, you name it.

01:59:53.000 So I think we're right near the end of episode five.

01:59:56.000 Like that first Hoth scene where the Empire just goes nuts.

01:59:59.000 That was like the Mueller investigation.

02:00:03.000 Where it's like, okay, we're getting run out of this thing.

02:00:07.000 Like, how did we go from Death Star to like Empire invading entire Iceland with Luke being like thrown up and evil monster about to destroy him?

02:00:18.000 You're right.

02:00:19.000 And it feels like that right now in America.

02:00:21.000 Because the Empire striking back.

02:00:22.000 2020 hasn't happened.

02:00:24.000 There's so much that's going to happen between now and Election Day.

02:00:26.000 And at the end of Empire, you see sort of a broken Hansel has been frozen in Carbonite.

02:00:33.000 The team has been broken.

02:00:34.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:00:34.000 Like Luke has lost his hand.

02:00:36.000 He lost a battle to his dad.

02:00:38.000 He like everyone, like, where is the hope left?

02:00:42.000 Right, exactly.

02:00:42.000 So archetypically, if you look at America's journey right now, that's kind of where we are.

02:00:46.000 We're so disassembled.

02:00:47.000 We're on defense.

02:00:48.000 I told you that, right?

02:00:49.000 That the left has pushed us on defense at this current moment.

02:00:52.000 And so then in Return of the Jedi, there's that moment of kind of you find your battle base, right?

02:00:58.000 You kind of reorient your guiding principles, which they do.

02:01:02.000 Why are we fighting?

02:01:03.000 Is it really worth it?

02:01:04.000 Those conversations all happen in Return of the Jedi.

02:01:07.000 Like, why are we here?

02:01:08.000 Is this a suicide mission?

02:01:10.000 Like, what are we doing here?

02:01:11.000 Because they're going to hunt us all down, right?

02:01:13.000 Like, every single one of us.

02:01:14.000 And then you have a moment where the hero rises up, gives a speech, or says something like, nothing could be more important.

02:01:22.000 And to summarize it all together, Trump wins.

02:01:25.000 Luke Skywalker wins, but at great cost and great price, with unsuspecting allies and things rising up that you could never imagine.

02:01:31.000 But again, the same could be said for the Lord of the Rings drama or the Harry Potter drama or any of the great story dramas that we know that are typically in trilogy fashion, if not extended novel fashion, where you have a hero journey.

02:01:43.000 And we've talked about this before, but you have the individual that grows up in innocence and goes forth and gets mentored.

02:01:48.000 It's all the same story.

02:01:49.000 But what we have to recognize and realize, what's the one thing in Lord of the Rings struggle, the Harry Potter struggle, and the Star Wars struggle that all of them recognize that is the greatest threat.

02:01:59.000 It's not the threat external.

02:02:01.000 Frodo realizes it's inside. 0.51

02:02:03.000 Same for America.

02:02:05.000 Our greatest threat is within our country.

02:02:07.000 Archetypically, we know that the left, the struggle between the temptation of putting on the ring and saying, yes, I'm going to take the full promises of the left.

02:02:15.000 Maybe they can run the country better than us.

02:02:17.000 Or destroying that ring and throwing it into the fire.

02:02:20.000 Or Harry Potter and confronting the great evil, that scar that you have within you.

02:02:24.000 Maybe I should succumb to the temptations of Lord Voldemort.

02:02:27.000 Maybe I should become like them.

02:02:28.000 Or maybe I'm going to confront it and destroy it.

02:02:31.000 That's hard to do, though.

02:02:32.000 It takes courage.

02:02:34.000 Like Harry Potter in volume two, where he literally goes down beneath the castle and slays the dragon, slays the basilisk, which is one of the oldest hero arcs in the history of Western society.

02:02:46.000 Where literally, what was the name of the girl he was trying to save?

02:02:48.000 You saved the Virgin.

02:02:49.000 Her name is Virginia, for goodness sakes.

02:02:51.000 Like J.K. Rowling put that perfectly together.

02:02:54.000 Because Harry Potter didn't want to slay the dragon.

02:02:56.000 What happens when you look the dragon in the eyes turns you to stone because you're so scared.

02:02:59.000 Literally turns you to stone.

02:03:01.000 And so she put that beautifully in just an awesome hero arc.

02:03:05.000 And that's been built into our consciousness. 0.95

02:03:08.000 So now as America, we have to recognize and decide China's awful. 1.00

02:03:11.000 The Iranians, all that stuff is true. 1.00

02:03:13.000 The real confrontation has to be within. 1.00

02:03:15.000 Has to be.

02:03:16.000 And our failure to do that will be the demise of our country.

02:03:18.000 But what's so cool is they gave our ancestors gave us these stories for a reason.

02:03:24.000 They gave us, it's not an accident these stories keep on repeating.

02:03:27.000 It's not an accident that the three most important dramas of our lifetime all have the same story of a young boy that grows up in innocence and goes past that innocence and fights something somewhat quasi-mythical, finds out there's more to the story and realizes the real problem is within.

02:03:43.000 Why does that story keep repeating and has popularity like off the charts?

02:03:48.000 It's because we know that there's something there that we have to do.

02:03:52.000 There's a reason why the left-wing stories don't resonate.

02:03:55.000 Like what? 0.80

02:03:56.000 Harry Potter is going to go become some transgender activist at the local Cambridge Community College and ask for reparations for anyone that grows up beneath the stairs. 0.99

02:04:04.000 Like that's an awful story.

02:04:05.000 It doesn't resonate.

02:04:08.000 Or Frodo is going to collectively bargain the hobbits of capacity against Saruman and say that we hobbits deserve union membership.

02:04:18.000 Or what?

02:04:18.000 Or is Luke Skywalker going to become some sort of intergalactic community organizer and basically be petitioning for the rights of Tatooine to have no police?

02:04:33.000 That's an awful story.

02:04:34.000 And the reason it's not just awful in the way that it's portrayed, but it's awful in a different way, Benny.

02:04:38.000 It's awful because it does not resonate with us on a spiritual level, on a psychological level.

02:04:44.000 See, we as human beings, we use these stories as meta-truths.

02:04:48.000 And we've built everything we know to be true.

02:04:49.000 And Jordan Peterson said this better than anyone else, is that it's true because the stories survived.

02:04:56.000 And because they're so unbelievably popular, because your unconscious is like 98% of your head.

02:05:02.000 So when you're watching these stories without even realizing your brain is processing it, like, wow, that's the bully in my school.

02:05:08.000 Wow, that's the person I need to confront.

02:05:11.000 That's how our country is going to survive.

02:05:13.000 We have these stories for a reason.

02:05:16.000 Never give up your history.

02:05:19.000 Well, and that's also part of the hubris of the left.

02:05:23.000 That's also part of the hubris.

02:05:24.000 Like everything before you is wrong.

02:05:26.000 I mean, if you look at what they did in the French Revolution, they started history over at year zero.

02:05:31.000 Robespierre, who was an aristocrat, by the way, who led the French Revolution, said, we're going to redo the calendar. 0.98

02:05:36.000 Screw the Ugranian calendar. 0.94

02:05:38.000 No more of this. 1.00

02:05:39.000 We're going to start over at year zero.

02:05:41.000 That's awfully confident of you, that everything before you is a mistake.

02:05:44.000 That's what Alexandria Casio-Cortez believes.

02:05:47.000 Everything before us was a mistake.

02:05:48.000 That's how you get book burning, which is literally what they're doing now. 0.93

02:05:51.000 They are getting rid of books that are not written by black women in the academy and in universities. 1.00

02:05:56.000 Getting rid of them. 1.00

02:05:57.000 Destroying them.

02:06:01.000 We have these stories for a reason.

02:06:02.000 It's time for us to act like heroes.

02:06:05.000 That means courage.

02:06:06.000 You cannot be a hero without being courageous.

02:06:08.000 You cannot.

02:06:09.000 America is a good country, and it's worth saving.

02:06:12.000 And it's worth fighting for.

02:06:14.000 So fight.

02:06:15.000 The greatest country ever to exist.

02:06:16.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

02:06:18.000 You can follow Benny Johnson's work at Turning Point USA.

02:06:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, guys.

02:06:22.000 God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 13, 2020

The Origins of Comedy and "Are Christians Cowards?" with Benny Johnson

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