The Charlie Kirk Show - The Pennsylvania State Senator Who Might Have Saved America with Sen. Doug Mastriano

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00:02:13.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:16.000 Super thrilled to be joined today by an American patriot, State Senator Doug Mastriano from Pennsylvania.

00:02:24.000 State Senator, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:27.000 Thank you, Charlie, for having me on in these really strange times that we live.

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00:02:31.000 Well, you are one of the few state senators in both Pennsylvania and the country that have been speaking out about the voter fraud and the irregularities that are happening in our country.

00:02:41.000 Just introduce yourself to our audience.

00:02:43.000 Talk about what's happening in Pennsylvania, and then we'll go from there.

00:02:46.000 So all I wanted to do all my life was be in the Army.

00:02:49.000 I remember as young as five years old, sitting at the feet of my uncle Joe, who served on Patton's Third Army, and loved his stories like, you know, I owe my country something.

00:02:58.000 I know this might sound a little bit red, white, and blue, but it is.

00:03:00.000 So I served my country from almost my entire adult life, starting off in the Iron Curtain, East Germany, Czechoslovakian borders, Desert Storm to liberate Kuwait, and the many assignments and deployments to Afghanistan.

00:03:13.000 And so about three years ago, it was time for me to retire and hit my mandatory retirement.

00:03:18.000 And, you know, most colonels and generals, they take fade off instead of sunset, get that good, sweet federal job because there's a lot of credentials you have and you just ride off into the sunset.

00:03:28.000 And, you know, we had similar offers.

00:03:30.000 But we felt I was having a hard time leaving the Army, as you can imagine, since so much of me was wrapped up into my identity and everything that I've done. 0.61

00:03:39.000 And I was really having a struggle with the realization that I was handing off to the next generation, my country, less good, less secure, less prosperous than how my dad's generation gave it to me.

00:03:50.000 And I really struggle with that.

00:03:52.000 And, you know, I was going through some remorse on what was all the sacrifice about all the years away from home.

00:03:57.000 And, you know, what have we done?

00:03:59.000 We fumbled the ball.

00:04:00.000 And as I was complaining, this one of many times, this young man who's about to interview me on the radio, he looked over at me, and I was a month away from retirement.

00:04:09.000 He said, Colonel, do something about it.

00:04:12.000 And I'm like, that really hit me to the quick because it's so easy to castigate, you know, politicians in Harrisburg or Washington, D.C., you know, all the cliches, they're all corrupt, you know, and all that nonsense.

00:04:24.000 Thankfully, that's not true. 0.66

00:04:26.000 But the fact is, if you see a problem, Christians, do something about it.

00:04:30.000 And so we stepped forth.

00:04:31.000 It's kind of a long tale.

00:04:32.000 I'm not going to go through it all.

00:04:33.000 But in the end, God got me into the Senate seat.

00:04:37.000 And little did I know, would I know a year and a half later that in that Senate seat that I'm fighting for the very life of a republic?

00:04:43.000 When you have single-handedly changed the tone in our country, talk about what you are doing to fight to expose electoral voter fraud and just give our audience an understanding of the position that you are in in Pennsylvania.

00:05:00.000 So I represent South Central Pennsylvania, which beautifully and ironically includes Gettysburg, the famous battlefield, of course, of 1863.

00:05:09.000 And it is humbling to represent that entire historic area where there was a new birth of freedom fought for with 50,000 casualties.

00:05:17.000 So we all went through the election, you know, and we had our ups and downs.

00:05:21.000 And three weeks on, we're still hearing the left tell us basically sit down, shut up, accept the results, and move on.

00:05:28.000 And I'm thinking back in 2000, you know, Bush v. Gore, we were told, be patient.

00:05:32.000 There's a process, you know, one county, one state.

00:05:34.000 And we're seeing allegations of extensive fraud in six states across the nation, and especially Pennsylvania of all places.

00:05:42.000 And I'm like wondering, where is the media with their intellectual curiosity?

00:05:45.000 Where are they going after and looking for eyewitnesses instead of saying they're not substantiated?

00:05:50.000 There's nothing there.

00:05:51.000 Move on.

00:05:51.000 And so finally, last Tuesday, I got together with some of my colleagues, especially Senator Argyll, and I said, we got a hold of a hearing.

00:06:00.000 And my committee really is not quite a good fit for this kind of hearing.

00:06:05.000 And I asked him to chair this on behalf of Pennsylvania.

00:06:08.000 And let's bring in some good witnesses and let's just get the facts.

00:06:11.000 We're just after facts.

00:06:12.000 And we had a three and a half hour hearing that was exposed to the entire world and it changed the entire mood and tide of the nation, ironically, in Gettysburg once again.

00:06:12.000 What happened?

00:06:23.000 That is so incredible.

00:06:25.000 And now we are seeing other states follow suit.

00:06:28.000 We are seeing Arizona and we're seeing Michigan also start to call hearings.

00:06:34.000 Can you talk about what happened in the hearing that was hosted just a week ago?

00:06:41.000 What was discovered and what was discussed?

00:06:43.000 And I want to get into some of the specifics here in Pennsylvania.

00:06:46.000 So, of course, we had opening remarks from Mayor Giuliani, leading the defense team, which makes sense.

00:06:53.000 Let them make their case because we had opening arguments two weeks ago, of course, publicly, but really not drilling down to the specificity of Pennsylvania and other states.

00:07:02.000 And he laid out a pretty compelling and convincing case.

00:07:05.000 And then following right behind him, and it was not witnesses I handpicked.

00:07:09.000 I did not review the files, although they were thrown in front of me about 500 affidavits.

00:07:14.000 I didn't handpick anybody.

00:07:15.000 I said, I just want to see some of the strongest witnesses and hear what they have to say.

00:07:19.000 And it was a stunning tale of corruption, of eyewitnesses to voter fraud, of disenfranchisement, of suppression and violations of voting law.

00:07:28.000 For instance, transparency is paramount to any republic.

00:07:31.000 We know that.

00:07:32.000 It might sound passe, but if democracy, you know, we're a republic, but I'll use the less term, democracy dies in darkness.

00:07:39.000 That's the cliche they once used a couple years ago in the Washington Post.

00:07:42.000 Yes, it can die in darkness when there's no transparency and accountability.

00:07:46.000 So for instance, we had at least 700,000 votes that were processed in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh without a Republican in the room to make sure the votes were viable and legal.

00:07:57.000 So what do you do in a situation?

00:07:58.000 So that's how democracy dies.

00:08:00.000 You know, we had one case where we had a data analyst, ironically, another retired army colonel, formerly with a top secret clearance as I had.

00:08:07.000 And he looked at a similar case where about there was a couple surges of data dumps of ballots being dumped into a system.

00:08:14.000 And he looked at two or three surges where it was about 600,000 votes.

00:08:17.000 And about 570,000 of those went solely for Biden, which statistically is almost impossible.

00:08:24.000 And you should have heard you gasp in a room when that data point came out.

00:08:27.000 Incredible.

00:08:28.000 Can you tell us more of this?

00:08:30.000 Just to dive deeper into the specifics.

00:08:33.000 Not everyone saw the hearing.

00:08:34.000 I know that it's quite notorious now, but can you just dive through some of just to walk us through, I should say, some of the specifics that were also discussed.

00:08:44.000 And also, would a lot of the stuff have been revealed if it wasn't for the hearing?

00:08:49.000 And that's just the thing.

00:08:50.000 You know, so the media wants to discount any allegations of fraud and abuse because they're happy with the outcome, obviously.

00:08:57.000 And I'm like, if you really are a journalist, media, do your jobs.

00:09:00.000 And that's why I was pretty indignant at the end.

00:09:03.000 I'm like, here's the witnesses, media.

00:09:05.000 You should have found these guys, not me.

00:09:07.000 Where have you been?

00:09:08.000 Instead of, you know, running circles and victory laps around everybody out there and telling us to shut up and sit down in color.

00:09:13.000 And there obviously is evidence of shenanigans.

00:09:16.000 And why did we step in?

00:09:18.000 And I'll answer your question directly in a second.

00:09:20.000 So I stepped in because obviously we're co-equal members of this government, although sometimes we don't act like it.

00:09:25.000 But the General Assembly of the House has said it, we're co-equals together, of course, with the governor and the judicial branch.

00:09:30.000 And we asked the governor to do something about the allegations.

00:09:33.000 And since he's happy with the results, he said, nope, no evidence of fraud.

00:09:37.000 I'm going to certify the election and move on.

00:09:39.000 And his Secretary of State, Kathleen Bookvar, and of course, our governor is Tom Wolf.

00:09:44.000 Never was a governor more appropriately named.

00:09:46.000 And his Secretary of State was Kathleen Bookvar.

00:09:50.000 And she echoed his comments: I'm going to certify the elections.

00:09:53.000 And I don't believe there was substantial fraud or cheating.

00:09:57.000 For anybody, if Republican or Democrat, just to write off allegations of fraud and abuse here, is sickening to me because I don't look at things with partisan eyes.

00:10:06.000 Obviously, they do.

00:10:07.000 And then finally, you think, what about our Attorney General, Josh Shapiro?

00:10:11.000 He all but actually declared Biden the victor before one vote was counted.

00:10:15.000 So within that framework of corruption and a lack of accountability, that's where I said we need to hold a hearing and find out what the heck happened and give the people of Pennsylvania a chance to hear this and let the chips fall where they may.

00:10:26.000 So we had about 13 eyewitnesses come up because we couldn't get them all, obviously, but we hit 13 key witnesses.

00:10:34.000 One of them, of course, was a poll watcher.

00:10:37.000 You probably saw the video.

00:10:38.000 He's outside of poll in Philadelphia.

00:10:39.000 He has his little yellow card, yellow for Republicans in Philadelphia.

00:10:43.000 That means he was certified and trained.

00:10:45.000 He can go to any polling station he wants in the city.

00:10:47.000 And you see, you know, two people come out and say, you can't come in here.

00:10:51.000 Well, here's my card.

00:10:52.000 And they like try to take it from him.

00:10:53.000 Of course, smartly, he keeps it.

00:10:55.000 And oh, that's not good for this polling station.

00:10:57.000 He's like, look right here.

00:10:58.000 It's good for all of Philadelphia.

00:10:59.000 And then finally, one of the gentlemen got into his face, was threatening to physically harm him.

00:11:05.000 Of course, law enforcement was called and they're like, we're not coming.

00:11:08.000 And so Republicans were pushed out from observing what was going on behind closed doors and like nothing bad to see here.

00:11:15.000 In other cases, here, there's eyewitness accounts of lack of chain of custody, you know, bags and bags and pallet loads of ballots showing up there, and nobody knows from where they came.

00:11:25.000 And so obviously, chain of custody is a big deal with any legal documents.

00:11:29.000 And I mean, I don't know how much you want to dive in here, but there's all observers.

00:11:34.000 Yeah.

00:11:35.000 Okay.

00:11:36.000 Let me get my old man glasses out of here and give you the facts.

00:11:40.000 So John Adams, of course, Adams County and Gattie's work named after him because facts are stubborn things.

00:11:45.000 And here's a lot of stubborn things coming up right now.

00:11:49.000 So of course, Giuliani talked about the lack of accountability and processing of about 700,000 ballots.

00:11:55.000 And, you know, what do you do with the accountability when there's no oversight?

00:11:58.000 If you think about Bush v. Gore 2000, we were told to be patient for 37 days.

00:12:03.000 Remember that. 0.55

00:12:04.000 And then, but of course, the hanging Chads, and there was a Republican and Democrat right there behind the guy, one cross-eyed guy trying to look at the Chads, whether it was a Bush or Gore vote.

00:12:13.000 There was none, you would think that after such a painful lesson in 2000, 20 years ago, we'd have this nailed down.

00:12:20.000 But the corruption's gotten out of control.

00:12:21.000 And so there has been almost 700,000 ballots.

00:12:25.000 There was no buddy from the other party there to make sure that the ballots received were legal votes, or were they just batched together and printed in some back room?

00:12:33.000 And so let's go on here.

00:12:38.000 Justin Queter, an attorney and also a campuser and observer in Philadelphia, he saw the Philadelphia Board of Elections processing hundreds of thousands of mail and ballots with zero civilian oversight.

00:12:51.000 In other cases, we tried to bring in the owners of Dominion.

00:12:57.000 14 of 67 Pennsylvania counties use Dominion machines, those infamous voting machines.

00:13:04.000 And the morning of the hearing, my colleagues in the house were all good to go.

00:13:08.000 They ready to get the facts.

00:13:10.000 And guess what?

00:13:11.000 Dominion said, nope, we're not coming.

00:13:13.000 And we hired attorneys to tell you why we can't come.

00:13:15.000 And so Dominion said we would refuse to be accountable to a customer on whether our machines are safe and secure.

00:13:22.000 That's all we wanted to know.

00:13:24.000 Are they fail-safe?

00:13:25.000 Is there a way they can be programmed or reprogrammed or changed or the outcomes altered as we know they can be?

00:13:31.000 So that's another piece of interesting information.

00:13:34.000 It took three days, it took three days in Philadelphia for some ballot processing plants to allow back in observers.

00:13:45.000 So observers were kicked out on election day, when election night when they started counting and they were told you can't come in.

00:13:51.000 The Republicans went to a judge, a judge said you have to let them in, and they refused for 72 hours.

00:13:57.000 And so when you wonder, when we went to bed late on the 3rd of November, when Trump was up 700,000 and the next day it was almost gone, that's how that happens in darkness without transparency or accountability or any oversight here because we have no idea what happened in that three-day window, especially in the case of Philadelphia.

00:14:15.000 And there's also similar examples in, of course, Allegheny County, which is Pittsburgh.

00:14:21.000 And our data analyst looked at the three spikes.

00:14:24.000 I'm going to get into details on that.

00:14:26.000 So he said, out of 600,000 votes dumped into a machine, it was three spikes, I believe it was.

00:14:33.000 He said 570,000 of those went for Biden and the remaining 32,000 for Trump.

00:14:38.000 Statistically impossible.

00:14:39.000 Could you imagine flipping a quarter almost 600,000 times and almost every time it comes up heads?

00:14:45.000 Really?

00:14:46.000 I mean, I may have been, I've may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

00:14:50.000 I just don't buy this here.

00:14:52.000 Gary Feldman, who was a poll watcher, and all the testimony is posted on my page here.

00:14:56.000 So I'd ask people out there: if you have trouble believing it, Missouri, show me.

00:15:01.000 Go ahead and listen to the testimony yourself and make your own decision because it's very compelling.

00:15:06.000 But anyway, he had a certificate, and of course, he was denied access to be a poll watcher, although he was trained and certified.

00:15:15.000 And they refused a lot of money.

00:15:17.000 What are they trying to hide there?

00:15:19.000 Really?

00:15:20.000 This is the kind of stuff that you hear about, you know, in Belarus under Lufashenko or Putin's Russia or Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

00:15:26.000 But this was America, Pennsylvania, of all places.

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00:15:35.000 She was told that she could not review mail and balance.

00:15:38.000 She could not look at them as they're being dropped and counted, really.

00:15:42.000 So we had no idea if they were duplicates, if they had a proper date on them, if there was a stamp on them, if they were filled out correctly.

00:15:51.000 And so this is why you see this, this magnificent, magical, miraculous turn of voting overnight against the president.

00:15:58.000 And there's a similar testimony on and on.

00:16:01.000 And I'm befuddled here that our governor and our leadership and his administration would stand aside and say, there's nothing to see here.

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00:17:20.000 Compared to prior elections, is this an unusual amount of irregularities?

00:17:26.000 Meaning you've seen plenty of elections in Pennsylvania in 2016 and 2018.

00:17:31.000 Was there an outpouring amount of this sort of behavior in previous elections?

00:17:36.000 Yeah, and in your previous interview with Trafalgar Group, remember he told you that Trump needed a 3% or 4% lead here to overcome the fraud in Pennsylvania.

00:17:46.000 So it's a darn shame that we've come to the point that in Pennsylvania, we accept there's a 3% or 4% amount of fraud.

00:17:54.000 But I believe that this is exceptionally higher because they had no idea that President Trump was going to do so well in the state, which explains the reset in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia when they stopped counting.

00:18:04.000 And a few hours later, suddenly there's a surge of votes that come in for Biden.

00:18:08.000 And so I think this overreaction by whoever was responsible for this has exposed a great level of deceit and cheating here.

00:18:17.000 And so it's going to really be up in the end up to the Trump legal team here to make the case before the Supreme Court.

00:18:23.000 And Charlie, the reason why I say that, we have a 1994 precedent.

00:18:26.000 This is interesting.

00:18:27.000 You might not be aware of this, but in 1994, a Democrat state senator died in office out of Philly, and there was a special election.

00:18:36.000 And in that area of the state, it's a foregone conclusion that the Democrat can win, you know, without any cheating.

00:18:41.000 But they couldn't help themselves because the majority in the Senate was at stake.

00:18:46.000 So they went above and beyond a call of duty to make sure this guy won overwhelmingly.

00:18:52.000 Anyway, the Democrat won overwhelmingly.

00:18:55.000 And his name was Stinson, sworn into office. 0.85

00:18:59.000 The Republican who lost the seat in the Senate, Marks, M-A-R-K-S, he did a lawsuit and he demonstrated extensive fraud and cheating.

00:19:07.000 It was so bad that a federal district judge in 1994 removed the Democrat senator from office, put in the Republican who lost because he said the results were beyond so much corruption and deceit that there was no way to determine who the real winner was, but it was obviously rigged against the Republican.

00:19:25.000 And so that was upheld by the Third Circuit in 1994.

00:19:28.000 So if the Trump legal team can make such a similar case of similar extensive abuse and fraud, we do have an example where the U.S. Supreme Court has a precedent.

00:19:38.000 They may have to throw out the results in certain parts of the state.

00:19:41.000 Wow.

00:19:42.000 That's incredible.

00:19:43.000 I have not heard anyone else mention that.

00:19:45.000 And so Can you talk about this new breaking news from Pennsylvania from Phil Klein and others?

00:19:53.000 The corroborated eyewitness testimony.

00:19:55.000 I'm not sure if you're briefed on this or not.

00:19:57.000 The 130,000 to 280,000 completed ballots that were shipped from Bethpage, New York to Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

00:20:05.000 Have you heard about this?

00:20:06.000 We did hear about it, I guess.

00:20:08.000 So is there any detail you could add or any context to that?

00:20:12.000 Because it seems incredible and vary much from an organization and from a person that is very evidence-based.

00:20:21.000 Yeah, so apparently there's several truck drivers who stepped up.

00:20:25.000 And actually, we know the uncle of one of the truck drivers.

00:20:28.000 It's kind of one of those weird small town stories.

00:20:31.000 And we heard about this last week, actually, last Wednesday after our hearing.

00:20:35.000 It was not presented publicly.

00:20:37.000 And if this data dump alone of truckloads of ballots showing up around the state here and drivers being told to leave their trailers behind, that alone could turn the outcome of the election.

00:20:48.000 Because as it stands right now, of course, Biden has 81,000 lead.

00:20:52.000 And they're talking about hundreds of thousands of ballots in the back of these trucks here.

00:20:55.000 So this alone is earthshaking in addition to all the facts I just went over with you and many more.

00:21:02.000 Wow.

00:21:03.000 It's incredible.

00:21:04.000 And so can you talk about some remedies to all of this that might exist within the state legislature?

00:21:11.000 What are you calling for the state Senate to do in Pennsylvania?

00:21:15.000 More investigations, possibly withholding electors.

00:21:18.000 What are some remedies here?

00:21:19.000 Because people are growing increasingly frustrated with what they see.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, so obviously there's several prongs here.

00:21:26.000 And I will restate the most important prong, of course, is having a ruling and judgment in the U.S. Supreme Court that the evidence is overwhelming from the Trump team.

00:21:35.000 And yes, there was fraud at a great level in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh that compromised the election.

00:21:40.000 Okay, now back on me, the General Assembly, the House and Senate.

00:21:43.000 So the House and Senate, we sadly live underneath some very large Byzantine rules.

00:21:49.000 And right now we're at a session.

00:21:50.000 Our session, our term expired last night, 11 p.m.

00:21:53.000 And we're scrambling with our leadership, trying to figure out our way constitutionally how we get the new body in, which is actually a better thing because we have more Republicans.

00:22:02.000 There was a red wave.

00:22:03.000 Is that amazing?

00:22:04.000 So wait, so Trump did very, there was Republicans that won all over Pennsylvania, is that right?

00:22:09.000 That's a fact.

00:22:10.000 We probably gained two in the Senate, probably gained about five or six in the House.

00:22:13.000 And not only that, Charlie, but we also won two of three state seats, state seats that we haven't had in Pennsylvania since 1982.

00:22:20.000 What areas of Pennsylvania was that in?

00:22:23.000 So mostly in the central and western part, and we also picked up some outside of Philly, but also two state seats.

00:22:28.000 We picked up the treasurer.

00:22:30.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:22:31.000 I'm sorry.

00:22:31.000 Statewide seats.

00:22:32.000 Okay.

00:22:33.000 The treasurer and the inspector general, which is fantastic.

00:22:37.000 Like I said, we haven't had those since 30, 40 years.

00:22:40.000 But of course, Trump doesn't win, though, but we pick up seats everywhere else.

00:22:44.000 But as far as the legislator, we got to get back in session.

00:22:47.000 And we need to move to nullify the certification from our Secretary of State.

00:22:52.000 And then we need to exercise of the U.S. Constitution, of course, Article 212, which says that the state legislators are the final say on the electors that are selected.

00:23:03.000 Sadly, in Pennsylvania, in 1878, 1938, they delegated the powers over to the Secretary of State and the governor's office by default, saying whoever won the popular vote will pick the electors.

00:23:14.000 Why a General Assembly would hand their powers over to the governor's office, who already has a lot of power, defies reason here.

00:23:20.000 So we have to look at a way and how do you suspend that law?

00:23:24.000 And we do have the power of articles of suspension.

00:23:27.000 We can, with a simple majority, suspend a law for a specific purpose.

00:23:32.000 So we need to get back in and then suspend that law and then pick our own electors.

00:23:37.000 Of course, you're going to see a similar case to what happened in Florida 2000 where you have a set of Democrat and Republican electors and then a Supreme Court's going to have to decide which ones go forth.

00:23:45.000 That's exactly what we want to happen.

00:23:47.000 We want to have the constitutional crisis for the judge, for a judge, or the judges, of course, in the Supreme Court come forth and say, yes, here's what we determined needs to happen.

00:23:55.000 That's constitutional.

00:23:57.000 So I'm still just very fascinated.

00:24:02.000 The Republicans gained statewide offices.

00:24:06.000 You guys gained state House seats and state Senate seats.

00:24:10.000 Was there a drop off?

00:24:11.000 Were there people that were only voting for Biden?

00:24:13.000 Did you find that phenomenon where people just had single Biden and submitted their ballot?

00:24:18.000 Is that why Republicans did so much better?

00:24:20.000 What could the possible explanation for that be, that they were Biden Republican down ticket voters, really?

00:24:27.000 Yeah.

00:24:27.000 So apparently, overwhelmingly, there was only time to fill in one circle on the ballots, and it was for the president of the United States for Biden.

00:24:35.000 And can you imagine that?

00:24:36.000 So this just shows you there's a lot of statistical anomalies in here by the tens of thousands.

00:24:42.000 Yeah, and you said that Republicans picked up a seat in the Philadelphia suburban area.

00:24:48.000 Is that right?

00:24:48.000 Yeah, we picked up seats all over the state in the House and said it.

00:24:52.000 And thankfully, there's still one seat being recounted outside of Pittsburgh, but they knocked out one Pittsburgh, Allegheny County senator that she did quite well actually in her primary.

00:25:05.000 I didn't think they could knock her out.

00:25:06.000 So this just shows you if it's a free and fair election, the people might have a say that the rest of the folks didn't count on.

00:25:12.000 So Sean Parnell is a great American, and he has some similar complaints that he has been voicing.

00:25:19.000 Are you aware of Sean Parnell's case or what he's been actually fighting for in Western Pennsylvania at this moment?

00:25:28.000 I am.

00:25:29.000 And we did speak last night.

00:25:31.000 And so his concern, of course, was Voting Reform Act 77.

00:25:35.000 And so the General Assembly passed this Act 77 voting reform in Pennsylvania's first reform of elections in like 25 years or something.

00:25:43.000 What was implemented this year is nothing like what we voted on last year.

00:25:48.000 So what happened, the law was passed.

00:25:50.000 And then the governor comes in with COVID, uses federal money to perpetuate and compel people to do mail-in balloting.

00:25:58.000 And then also that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court rewrites our law.

00:26:02.000 They take away all the safety guards that we had up, said they did not require signatures.

00:26:08.000 Okay, that's not asking for trouble.

00:26:08.000 Great.

00:26:10.000 So there's no verification on these mail-in ballots.

00:26:12.000 Didn't require a postage stamp.

00:26:13.000 So we had no idea when they were mailed.

00:26:15.000 And then they could be received and counted up to three days after the election.

00:26:19.000 So you just see this entire law has caused a cataclysm in Pennsylvania.

00:26:24.000 And I believe of the six law legal cases the Trump team has around the nation, their case against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is the strongest because the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which is five to seven Democrat, rewrote, they did our job.

00:26:37.000 They created and wrote law.

00:26:39.000 That's my job, not theirs.

00:26:41.000 So the issue right now is convening that special assembly or possibly getting new members seated.

00:26:48.000 And you're saying that it is going to take some action from the U.S. Supreme Court to try to help make this more possible from a legal standpoint.

00:26:57.000 Is that right?

00:26:58.000 I just want our viewers to know what the steps are and what possibly their involvement should be and where they should focus their efforts and their attention.

00:27:07.000 Yes.

00:27:08.000 So just for clarity's sake, there's two prongs.

00:27:11.000 We have, of course, the judicial side and then the legislative side.

00:27:15.000 And of course, I talked about, I think, pretty clearly what the Trump team needs to do as far as making a case for us to convene a special session.

00:27:23.000 We have to ask the governor to call for it.

00:27:25.000 And obviously, he has his hand in a cookie jar.

00:27:28.000 He's not going to approve it for what we want to do to review election fraud and corruption.

00:27:33.000 And so we're going to have to find a way to suspend existing law to bring ourselves in session to have the new legislative body sworn in, which won't be sworn in until the first of the year, sadly.

00:27:44.000 And so we could do our work.

00:27:45.000 And this is a tall order.

00:27:47.000 I was on the phone last night with our Senate leadership trying to find a way to maneuver through this whole process here.

00:27:53.000 And I don't know that we have a clear path ahead, but I'm clearly not going to give up on this ankle because we have a job to do and we are in a national crisis and we have to figure out a way to through this Byzantine process here to do our due diligence and our job.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, the concern is that many years ago, these state legislatures gave up their power really kind of recklessly, I think.

00:28:18.000 And because now we have seen an erosion of what you can do.

00:28:24.000 You should be able to have the power to seat different electors or have no confidence.

00:28:29.000 It's almost as if they put forward a system that in no way whatsoever could have a check on fraud.

00:28:36.000 Is that right?

00:28:37.000 Yeah, that's what it feels like.

00:28:39.000 I mean, it's very frustrating.

00:28:40.000 You know, the people of my state here feel like they've been cheated and they feel very helpless.

00:28:44.000 And at times I do feel that way as well, you know, because you look around here and you're thinking who's in charge, who in their right mind would take an entire body of the government and put us out of work for a month every two years.

00:28:54.000 I mean, it's utter madness.

00:28:55.000 I can't think of anyone in a right mind would disempower themselves other than a bunch of, you know, career politicians.

00:29:01.000 So we got to get that power back.

00:29:02.000 We need to fix it now before it's too late.

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00:30:10.000 So, can you talk more about your faith and how that engages what you're doing in politics and also talk about your work overseas and how you've seen this sort of election fraud before?

00:30:20.000 You mentioned that briefly, but I think that would be really helpful for our listeners and our viewers.

00:30:24.000 Yeah, so you know, Charlie, I think one of the verses that we live by is: whatever you do in word and deed, do it as unto the Lord, right?

00:30:30.000 So, whatever you put your hands to, you know, whether it was Doug Mastery on or when he was a janitor as a young man or as a colonel or as a senator, you do the best you can with the position God has given you.

00:30:41.000 And he says, if you're faithful in small things, make you faithful on large things.

00:30:45.000 And I do remember, I'm very well-grounded because I remember, you know, I had about 100 toilets to clean every night.

00:30:51.000 And I remember the guys in the suits coming in and looking down at me like, yeah, look, look at you. 0.98

00:30:55.000 You know, you're trash. 0.99

00:30:56.000 You'll never amount to anything. 0.99

00:30:57.000 But I do remember what it says in 1 Corinthians 1:27.

00:31:01.000 It says, God uses the foolish to confound the wise and the weak to confound the strong.

00:31:06.000 So he's willing to use anybody who's willing and able to stand in the gap.

00:31:11.000 And when he has a call on your life, I don't know what that call is.

00:31:13.000 That's between you and him, but he has great things more than you can imagine or think, according to Ephesians 3:20.

00:31:20.000 So it's with that background and a life basically, except the Lord as a teenager.

00:31:27.000 And most of my life, of course, constantly hearing people suppressing my faith.

00:31:32.000 You need to be less this.

00:31:33.000 You need to be less Christian, less that, you know, and just really tired of that. 1.00

00:31:36.000 It's like, why can't I be who I want to be? 0.99

00:31:38.000 I'm an American.

00:31:39.000 And so, you know, of course, Jesus said, in this world, you'll have tribulation.

00:31:42.000 And although not enjoyable, it does sharpen you.

00:31:45.000 It does build resolve and determination.

00:31:48.000 So here I am, you know, enjoyed a long career in the army and had a good time doing what I was doing, but you know, not without a lot of sacrifice and what have you.

00:31:59.000 And so now here we are standing on the precipice here of our republic and wondering if it can long last.

00:32:05.000 And I do take warnings and encouragement from our founding fathers.

00:32:10.000 And, you know, as you know so well, of course, Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia, 1787, coming out of the Constitutional Congress, done in secrecy.

00:32:18.000 The people didn't know what was going on, but he comes out of Carpenter's Hall and there's a Mrs. Powell there, and she kind of ambushes him.

00:32:25.000 We samaya said she knows him personally.

00:32:28.000 She runs up to him and says, you know, almost in his face, well, Mr. Franklin, what do we have?

00:32:32.000 A monarchy or a republic?

00:32:33.000 And of course, his words echo across the generations to us today.

00:32:36.000 He said, a republic, if you can keep it.

00:32:39.000 And so we really are at a point in our nation.

00:32:42.000 Can we keep this republic?

00:32:43.000 Can it endure in the face of these atrocities and these abuse and fraud?

00:32:48.000 And I say it has to.

00:32:49.000 Otherwise, this last bastion of hope to mankind will be snuffed out.

00:32:53.000 That's well said.

00:32:55.000 And can you talk about your experience dealing with other countries and elections similar to this?

00:33:02.000 And you see this kind of pattern that is now re-emerging?

00:33:05.000 So, you know, it's a bit intriguing to me because I started off my career, of course, studying the Soviet Union, being an army intelligence officer with the cavalry, and then, of course, working my way up through as a colonel as a senior intelligence officer within NATO, NATO land headquarters in Highlander, Germany.

00:33:20.000 So we spent 12 years out of the country.

00:33:23.000 I've had several deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, and also supported the missions in the Balkans and the Baltics up by the Russian border and by Poland, Estonia, Lapi, Lithuania.

00:33:34.000 In the Balkans, of course, the United Nations, they had their great civil war.

00:33:38.000 Yugoslavia fractured.

00:33:40.000 Terrible things happened.

00:33:41.000 United Nations was feckless.

00:33:42.000 They enabled the murder of 5,000 Muslims in Sribanica by doing nothing under General Mo Yong.

00:33:48.000 And the United States finally stepped in with our NATO allies.

00:33:51.000 We brought peace.

00:33:52.000 We imposed peace.

00:33:54.000 And then, of course, we wanted free and fair elections.

00:33:57.000 So the United States with our NATO allies spent millions of dollars to ensure safe and secure elections.

00:34:02.000 More safe and secure than what we have in Pennsylvania.

00:34:06.000 I supported missions in, many of us supported missions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:34:09.000 I'll speak about mine in Afghanistan to oversee the elections or participate in the security of the elections in Afghanistan.

00:34:15.000 We want to ensure there was also free and fair elections in Afghanistan.

00:34:19.000 And so the international community, led by the United States and NATO, we mandated ID cards be presented when you vote early on.

00:34:27.000 And guess what?

00:34:28.000 In Pennsylvania, no ID required.

00:34:30.000 That's fantastic.

00:34:32.000 You're just asking for trouble.

00:34:33.000 And then when you voted in Afghanistan, also in Iraq, we had people dip their finger in an ink well and they had an ink stained finger for a day.

00:34:41.000 One person, one vote. 0.62

00:34:43.000 We found out later that was a bad idea because Taliban looked for people with the ink paint stinger, of course, and murdered them.

00:34:49.000 So I don't advocate what happened next, but let me show you the lengths that we've gone to ensure free and fair elections in a country devastated by war and conflict since 1979, since the Soviet invasion and all that followed in Afghanistan.

00:35:03.000 Third world war-torn country, you know, devastated by atrocities, and their elections are more reliable than Pennsylvania.

00:35:10.000 A German firm brought in retinal and facial and bio scans, and they'd register people with IDs and put them in a database and then one person, one vote.

00:35:21.000 And we can't in Pennsylvania have even a semblance of a free, fair election where one person, one legal vote is happening.

00:35:28.000 And this is sickening to me.

00:35:29.000 Why do we move heaven and earth on the four corners of the earth that ensure safe and fair elections where every vote counts legal vote, one person, one legal vote, as opposed to what happens in Pennsylvania here, where we have no idea what happened and we have all these eyewitness accounts of shenanigans. 0.63

00:35:44.000 It sounds like a third world backborder country or a tinpot dictator like in Belarus. 0.65

00:35:49.000 Yeah, and this is the same sort of playbook where they delay the reporting of the elections, where they cover up all the evidence. 0.61

00:35:57.000 They don't allow people to be investigated.

00:35:59.000 And also, something that is done in those countries, they have fake polls leading into them to try to mislead people so that when the result that they're actually manufacturing ends up occurring, people say, oh, well, it must be true because all the polls said it was going to be true.

00:36:13.000 The issue with their theft in this election is that none of the other state, local, and other elections correlate with what they did.

00:36:21.000 This looks like they were doing this so quickly, so last minute, that it just exposed it even further.

00:36:30.000 And you saw this in Pennsylvania.

00:36:32.000 Everyone did well.

00:36:33.000 Yeah.

00:36:34.000 And they got reckless and sloppy.

00:36:36.000 You know, we all saw a red wave in Pennsylvania.

00:36:39.000 When you have President Trump coming to Butler, Pennsylvania, and 57,000 people show up.

00:36:45.000 I mean, that's like a Pope visiting a city, right?

00:36:48.000 And meanwhile, I watched Biden, you know, I wasn't there physically.

00:36:51.000 I watched the news clubs come to Gettysburg and he couldn't draw flies.

00:36:54.000 I think he had 10 people show up and he charged them like $1,600 to be there.

00:36:58.000 And not all the circles will fill.

00:37:00.000 And that you can imagine if Biden could sweep Trump in the state where I would draw, now these are one-offs and these are vignettes, but driving across my state here, we'd see two, 300 Trump flags or Trump signs and maybe one Biden flag or sign.

00:37:13.000 And so all the antidotal evidence was like, wow, there's a huge movement here.

00:37:17.000 I saw it.

00:37:18.000 I felt it.

00:37:19.000 And we woke up the next morning and it was snatched away from us.

00:37:21.000 And it doesn't make sense.

00:37:23.000 No, not at all.

00:37:24.000 So you're dealing with a lot of people that are contacting you asking how they can help.

00:37:29.000 You actually being in the state legislative fight.

00:37:31.000 Can you give us some insight into how you believe what's the best way that patriots can stay engaged and involved at this moment?

00:37:38.000 What can they do?

00:37:39.000 Who can they support?

00:37:40.000 What can they actually do to make a tangible difference at this point?

00:37:44.000 Yeah, so the best bet is people in Pennsylvania contact your representatives and contact your state senators and ask them what they're going to do about this election and the fraud.

00:37:54.000 And are they going to try their darnest to get us back into saddle here in December so we can have a say on which electors are selected?

00:38:01.000 Look, we don't want to have our hand on the scale.

00:38:03.000 We just want to know the truth.

00:38:04.000 And if the election was so corrupted and broken by shenanigans, which seems to be ample evidence of that, and if it's borne out by the Supreme Court, we need to do our jobs.

00:38:12.000 We got a job to do and we can't stand aside.

00:38:15.000 Otherwise, why even have a Senate?

00:38:16.000 You know, it's funny when you watch biblical movies of Jesus, you'll see Pontius Pilot sitting there, you know, at his judgment seat.

00:38:22.000 And behind him are banners that say SPQR, you know, the Senate and people of Rome.

00:38:27.000 At that point in history, Rome was not a republic, but only a Republican name only.

00:38:31.000 We could have that same terrible legacy if we abandon our republic right now.

00:38:36.000 And we'll only have representatives and senators as a symbolic role, but really it'll have one party rule.

00:38:41.000 And that's what happened in Rome.

00:38:42.000 And God forbid that happens in modern day America.

00:38:45.000 Yeah.

00:38:45.000 Amen.

00:38:46.000 So the last question I'll ask is, are you going to run for governor of Pennsylvania?

00:38:50.000 I sure hope so.

00:38:52.000 You know, even before this whole situation, there's been a strong grassroots movement.

00:38:56.000 And, you know, Charlie, it's, I'm not a politician.

00:38:59.000 I'm not going to give you a political answer.

00:39:01.000 And because I'm tired of politics and politicians, by the way.

00:39:04.000 But my view is if we get the call from God, we're not going to stand away from our esther moment.

00:39:09.000 As scary as it might be, you know, jumping in that fray for a giant state of 13 million.

00:39:14.000 If we don't do our part, there's consequences to pay.

00:39:17.000 You know, I think across the ages, here's one struggle I have here: as American Christians, we're very not only passive, but we cop out.

00:39:25.000 You know, we hear bad things going on and we wipe our hands in the air and say, well, it's God's will.

00:39:31.000 And I ask people when they cop out like that, because that's a call to inaction.

00:39:36.000 I hear you, and I'm not going to do anything about it.

00:39:38.000 Nope.

00:39:38.000 And guess what?

00:39:39.000 What is God's will?

00:39:40.000 That none should perish, but all should come to salvation.

00:39:43.000 So it's not his will for cheating corruption to happen in Pennsylvania.

00:39:47.000 It's not his will that there was a Holocaust.

00:39:48.000 It's not his will that there are dictators killing people.

00:39:52.000 It's not his will that abortion exists. 0.81

00:39:54.000 But bad things happen when men and women stand aside.

00:39:57.000 We look at Esther when she has her call, of course, and she gets a letter from Mordecai and basically says, you know, don't think because you're in the king's palace, Queen Esther, that you'll escape this.

00:40:07.000 You and your family will die.

00:40:09.000 But perhaps you've been called to such a royal position for such a time as this.

00:40:13.000 And so it's interesting, you know.

00:40:16.000 Mordecai mentions, you know, if you stand aside, there'll be consequences.

00:40:20.000 There'll be a deliver elsewhere.

00:40:21.000 But what's the price of getting to that deliverer?

00:40:24.000 And I have a vignette from history. 0.88

00:40:25.000 1934, Hitler's rise of power is almost solidified. 0.82

00:40:29.000 And there's one guy in Germany standing his way. 0.70

00:40:32.000 His name is General von Schleicher.

00:40:34.000 And he had the loyalty of the German army.

00:40:36.000 And Hitler knew that. 0.61

00:40:37.000 And Hitler, being a good socialist, National Socialist left-wing party, pinheads and schools are wrong on that. 0.52

00:40:44.000 Hitler goes in there and attacks him verbally, starts accusing him of reprehensible moral behavior. 0.58

00:40:50.000 And Schleicher chokes.

00:40:52.000 And his esther moment, he had everything to lose, you know, and he choked.

00:40:56.000 And Hitler had him assassinated.

00:40:57.000 He did nothing. 0.79

00:40:58.000 And guess what?

00:40:59.000 God did raise up the deliver from elsewhere.

00:41:01.000 It's called the United States Army, but it's going to take us 10 years to get there.

00:41:05.000 So if we get the call to run for governor, we're going to do it and we're going to do it to win it.

00:41:09.000 But we're going to need a grassroots movement because I'm not sure that the establishment and all the other folks out there would like some patriot like me who they can't control, who rather serve the people than serve political interests.

00:41:21.000 I think you do very well.

00:41:23.000 And I know Governor Wolf is hated amongst all parties in Pennsylvania.

00:41:27.000 That I do know.

00:41:28.000 Thank you so much, my friend.

00:41:29.000 God bless you.

00:41:30.000 And thanks for joining our program.

00:41:32.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:41:32.000 God bless you.

00:41:33.000 And let's let's one last thing: 1775, George Washington commissioned our first flag.

00:41:37.000 We can argue, appeal to heaven, that white flag with the Douglas fir tree.

00:41:41.000 And we can only win this fight by God's intervention.

00:41:44.000 So I'm appealing to heaven right now and asking fellow Americans to join me in prayer for intervention from God.

00:41:48.000 Amen.

00:41:49.000 All right.

00:41:49.000 Talk to you soon, my friend.

00:41:50.000 Thanks so much.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 02, 2020

The Pennsylvania State Senator Who Might Have Saved America with Sen. Doug Mastriano

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